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- 0:00Imagine trying to have a conversation with your family
- 0:02while standing beside a jet engine.
- 0:04Now imagine that noise never stops.
- 0:08That's the reality for some pilot whales living in one of the busiest
- 0:10shipping corridors in the world.
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- 0:28Listen, a new study highlighted by Mongabay found that pilot whales
- 0:33in the Strait of Gibraltar may be struggling to hear each other because
- 0:36of noise from commercial ships.
- 0:39That's how busy it is in that corridor.
- 0:40And you can't really blame them.
- 0:42It's a huge corridor going into the Mediterranean, coming
- 0:45out of the Mediterranean.
- 0:46So I can't really blame it for being that loud when there's so much going on within.
- 0:50So many countries are involved in the Mediterranean.
- 0:52They line the Mediterranean.
- 0:53And so it makes it really difficult to navigate that traffic.
- 0:57And while that might sound like a niche whale story, it's actually
- 1:00about something much bigger.
- 1:01And today we're gonna answer a simple question: What happens
- 1:05when the ocean gets so loud that whales can't communicate?
- 1:10Now, let's just talk about whales for a second and in the way that they
- 1:13communicate, because it's not well known to people who are not scientists and
- 1:18people who are not interested in whales, but whales communicate by sound, and each
- 1:22whale species has their own dialect.
- 1:24And even within whale species, the pods tend to have their own dialect
- 1:29for many species, like orcas and stuff.
- 1:31I don't know if it's for every species, but they tend to
- 1:34develop their own language.
- 1:35And so that's a way for them to be able to communicate across, like, tens
- 1:39if not hundreds of kilometers away.
- 1:41These pods are huge, like sometimes greater than 50, sometimes even 100.
- 1:46And so they can't all just be scrunched up in the middle of the pod.
- 1:49A lot of times they're spread out and they have to communicate over a distance.
- 1:53And when they can't communicate or there's other noise that gets in the way,
- 1:57that interrupts their communication, and they just don't know what's going on.
- 2:00So imagine like you have a son or daughter, you have a kid.
- 2:04And they're in the-- maybe five or six, and you're in a busy place.
- 2:08If you are in a busy place and your son or daughter or kid goes a little
- 2:12further away, and say they're like maybe five feet away, and you yell
- 2:15out, they might be able to hear you.
- 2:16They're probably gonna be able to hear if you yell out long, loud enough.
- 2:19But if the noise gets louder and louder or you're at a concert, it's
- 2:23really difficult for you to hear.
- 2:24Imagine being like a kilometer away.
- 2:26Obviously you don't wanna be that far away from your kid in a busy area, but then
- 2:29it gets really more difficult to project your voice across that whole area 'cause
- 2:33that noise kinda interferes with that.
- 2:35And that's what this new study examined.
- 2:37They examined pilot whales in the Strait of Gibraltar.
- 2:39And the research found that shipping noise may be interfering
- 2:42with whale communication.
- 2:44And that Strait of Gibraltar is one of the busiest shipping routes in the world.
- 2:47And pilot whales rely heavily on sound.
- 2:51So that's a big, big problem right there when we just introduced.
- 2:54So most of us experience the world, primarily through sight.
- 2:57We look at around a room, we watch the traffic, we see people approaching.
- 3:03These are just things that we constantly feel, right?
- 3:06But whales don't live in our world.
- 3:08They live in the world of sound.
- 3:10And sound travels much further underwater than in light, like, than in air.
- 3:15For marine mammals, sound is often more important than vision.
- 3:19It's how they communicate.
- 3:20It's how they find their family members.
- 3:22It's how they coordinate movement.
- 3:24It's how they navigate.
- 3:26And it's how they actually grab food too, using echolocation.
- 3:29And according to this new research, the growing amount of shipping traffic in
- 3:33the Strait of Gibraltar is making those conversations increasingly difficult.
- 3:38Like I said, imagine being in this big area and you can't
- 3:41really hear what's going…
- 3:42You can't talk to people who are two, three, four feet away.
- 3:45This becomes a huge problem.
- 3:47I was a marine mammal observer in the Arctic when I was younger, in 2008, 2009.
- 3:54I had the opportunity to go to the Arctic, and the goal there, we were on a ship
- 3:57where there was a seismic survey going on.
- 3:59So we were trailing acoustic guns that were trailing about
- 4:02nine kilometers behind the boat.
- 4:04It was an array of guns, and what that array of guns would do, the array
- 4:06goes down to the bottom, looks for hydrocarbon deposits, and then the
- 4:10sound travels up and it gives a signal.
- 4:12But the thing is, is if you and I were swimming around those guns when they
- 4:16went off, it would blow our eardrums off.
- 4:18That's how loud these guns are.
- 4:20Now, of course, as we mentioned before, being underwater, sound
- 4:23travels, and if you've ever scuba dived or gone swimming and you hear noise
- 4:26underwater, it's difficult to find out where that noise is coming from.
- 4:29It's often disorientating.
- 4:30And so that could also be a problem.
- 4:32Now, when out, we were out there being marine mammal observers,
- 4:35what we would do is we'd watch whales, especially in the Arctic.
- 4:38So we're watching beluga whales, we're watching bowhead whales, and
- 4:41sometimes we saw gray whales as well.
- 4:43Some people saw orcas.
- 4:44I never saw orcas, which is very disappointing, but we were
- 4:47in the Canadian Beaufort Sea.
- 4:48And so, what happened is like we had a specific radius we were looking at, one
- 4:52or two kilometers, depending on where we were in the Beaufort Sea, and that had
- 4:55to do with acoustics of sound travel.
- 4:57And the whole point was once a whale came close within our range or was
- 5:01coming close or looked like it was gonna enter that radius, we know we
- 5:04had to shut the instrumentation off.
- 5:06We were telling the captain and the crew to shut the instrumentation
- 5:08off until that whales got out of the area where the noise would affect.
- 5:13And the reason being is because the noise would affect them so much and
- 5:17then it was so loud that after they heard that or were exposed to it, they
- 5:21wouldn't be able to hear as well.
- 5:23And if they were constantly exposed, and at the time the Arctic was being heavily
- 5:27surveyed for hydrocarbon deposits, they would be like, okay, like this could
- 5:32actually affect their hearing if they're exposed more than once or multiple times.
- 5:36Essentially, like think about if you've ever listened to music in earbuds, and
- 5:41you listen to them as loud as possible.
- 5:43And then when you take them out, you can't hear as well.
- 5:46So you may seem like, uh, things are muffled or things like that.
- 5:49That's how they feel, essentially.
- 5:51And so having that feeling is gonna interrupt communication for feeding,
- 5:55for navigation, for everything.
- 5:57And if you look at pilot whales, going back to the pilot whales,
- 5:59pilot whales can get disoriented.
- 6:01And because they follow one pilot whale, that pilot whale goes off anywhere, like
- 6:06if it gets off course and it beaches itself, the whole pod will beach itself.
- 6:10And that's where we see these mass strandings of pilot whales
- 6:13in specific areas like New Zealand, the UK, and so forth.
- 6:17So it's very important that these animals do not feel disoriented.
- 6:22And I think that's something that people don't realize and something
- 6:25that we should be more of…
- 6:26The amount of noise underwater is absolutely phenomenal in that regard.
- 6:31So, it's quite interesting.
- 6:33And that's where the story kind of shifts from being about whales to being
- 6:36about us because there's so much noise.
- 6:38We produce so much noise.
- 6:39Because the noise isn't coming from nature.
- 6:42It's coming from human activity.
- 6:43It's coming from ships.
- 6:46It's could be coming from sonar.
- 6:48It could be coming from seismic activity, boats, speed boats and stuff.
- 6:52It really does do that kind of stuff.
- 6:54And the thing is, is pilot whales are highly social animals, so they
- 6:57need to have that communication.
- 6:59They live in close family groups.
- 7:00Communication is essential for group cohesion.
- 7:03If we don't have that, things can get disoriented.
- 7:06Either parts of the pod can go off on its own, and that's
- 7:08not good for the entire pod.
- 7:09And noise pollution can reduce communication distance.
- 7:12That means the pod has to be closer together, which could interrupt the
- 7:15way, their natural way of being.
- 7:16The problem likely affects any other marine mammal species, just
- 7:20like I talked about in the bowheads as well as other dolphin species.
- 7:24Pilot whales aren't solitary animals.
- 7:26They're very incredibly social.
- 7:27They travel in groups.
- 7:29They coordinate the movements.
- 7:30They stay connected through sound.
- 7:32Researchers have found that the ship noise can dramatically reduce the distance over
- 7:36which the whales can hear each other.
- 7:38Think about that for a second.
- 7:40Imagine you're talking to a family member across a room,
- 7:43just like I mentioned before.
- 7:45Now imagine somebody turns on a leaf blower.
- 7:47That person's not gonna be able to hear that.
- 7:48You have to raise your voice, or maybe you just stop talking
- 7:51altogether if you need to move closer.
- 7:53That's essentially what's happening with these whales.
- 7:55That's what they're dealing with here.
- 7:57Except the leaf blower doesn't turn off.
- 7:58The ships are always there.
- 7:59The Strait of Gibraltar, the ships are always coming and going.
- 8:02These massive ships, these over 250,000 ton ships, these are extremely loud.
- 8:08And the noise feels like it's coming from all over the place.
- 8:10It's like being at a concert all the time.
- 8:13And I think what you have to ask yourself is like, what would happen
- 8:15if every important conversation in your life became harder?
- 8:18Just think about that.
- 8:20That's essentially what's happening for these animals.
- 8:22You're trying to make sure they're safe, so they're out of harm's way.
- 8:25So you're trying to warn them of something.
- 8:27And if you can't warn your kids or you can't warn an elderly person
- 8:31in your family, that's difficult.
- 8:33If they can't hear you, say like take the elderly person, if they can't
- 8:37hear you well, 'cause some elderly people can't hear as well, then it's
- 8:40difficult to communicate with them what they want to eat, how they're feeling.
- 8:45Trying to communicate with them to say they have to go to the hospital
- 8:47and be treated, it's hard for the doctors to communicate with them
- 8:49because they just can't hear as well.
- 8:52It's difficult to navigate complex environments.
- 8:54It's difficult to have social bonds.
- 8:56I'm not sure if you've ever had like an elderly person who can't hear very
- 8:59well and they're out of conversations.
- 9:02They can't participate in conversations as much 'cause they can't hear as much.
- 9:05That's what happens essentially with pilot whales.
- 9:07If they can't hear, they can't participate in some important conversations.
- 9:11Let's be honest, like we have it easy as humans.
- 9:13Safety for some people is not as difficult to achieve.
- 9:16But when you need to hear someone talk to like, say, get out of
- 9:20the way for something, you wanna make sure you can hear them.
- 9:22So like when we talk about the noise in these habitats, we often
- 9:25refer to it as acoustic habitat.
- 9:27We talk about protecting physical habitat all the time, which is really important.
- 9:31We talk about coral reefs, we talk about seagrass beds, mangroves,
- 9:34salt marshes, anywhere, sponge reefs, and all that kind of stuff.
- 9:38But animals also need healthy sound environments.
- 9:40For humans, we talk about noise pollution, how we need to reduce noise pollution.
- 9:44Well, the same thing goes for animals.
- 9:45Like, just a case in point, another analogy that's very, very, with
- 9:49today's time is data centers.
- 9:51A lot of people are starting to put videos up where they have, like,
- 9:55these sound measurements, these instruments that's, measure sound.
- 9:58And they're showing that houses that are right beside data centers are
- 10:00hearing sounds, like this buzzing sound, loud buzzing sound above what
- 10:04you're normally supposed to hear that could affect your hearing all the
- 10:07time, every day, twenty-four/seven.
- 10:09Obviously, that's not something you want.
- 10:10You can't sell your home if that's the case, or you wanna move, or it's
- 10:13very difficult to just be in that place, living in a place like that
- 10:16when you hear noise all the time.
- 10:18So you have to deal with that.
- 10:19The same thing's happening to species.
- 10:21You need to protect that acoustic habitat.
- 10:24And especially for species that rely on communication, noise
- 10:27pollution is habitat degradation.
- 10:29And I think that's something that could be a really, really difficult thing to do.
- 10:33We often focus on the threats that we can see, but we hardly ever address
- 10:37the threats that we can't see.
- 10:39We can see plastic pollution, we can see oil spills, we
- 10:41can see habitat destruction.
- 10:43That's easy to say over time this habitat has gotten worse.
- 10:46Because we don't always measure noise, it's difficult to manage that.
- 10:50Although, there are some places, especially around whales, and whale
- 10:53watching, like orcas on the west coast of Canada, you have to be
- 10:56with two hundred meters away from the orca to make sure that the noise
- 10:59doesn't affect their natural habitat.
- 11:02So there are certain marine mammals that are protected from that type of thing.
- 11:06And the Marine Mammal Protection Act also protects animals from noise distribution
- 11:10or noise pollution, or it used to.
- 11:12I don't know if it will anymore with this different administration.
- 11:15So, you know, you have noise pollution, chemical pollution, climate impacts.
- 11:18Those are very difficult to measure when you really look at it.
- 11:21Now, I just have to ask a question.
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- 11:44Now, what's happening next?
- 11:46Now that we've identified that this area in the Strait of Gibraltar gets
- 11:49a lot of noise, more than normal, and it's affecting pilot whales, shipping
- 11:53traffic is unlikely to decrease.
- 11:56Like, we know that, because business is booming, and this is what we need to do.
- 12:00A lot of things, most things come by boat when we think about how things get
- 12:04to our places, like when we order stuff.
- 12:06Scientists are exploring mitigating options.
- 12:08So slowing vessel speeds can reduce noise, and new ship designs can be quieter.
- 12:13And of course, there's also policy solutions that can help too.
- 12:16Now, I wanna say that the shipping industry has been pretty good,
- 12:19from my understanding, about participating in these types of
- 12:23things to make better efficiency, less noise, looking at shipping lanes.
- 12:28I'm sure they haven't been perfectly cooperative, but you're starting
- 12:30to see this happen a lot more.
- 12:32So I think that's a good thing from the shipping industry to say, "Hey, you know,
- 12:35we're actually looking to help in a way." And I hope they are in that situation
- 12:39in the Strait of Gibraltar as well.
- 12:41The challenge is that shipping isn't going away.
- 12:43Around ninety percent of the global trade moves by sea, not by plane, but by sea.
- 12:48And the products we buy every day arrive on ships, so food, electronics,
- 12:53clothing, furniture, everything.
- 12:56So the solution isn't to eliminate shipping.
- 12:59The question is whether we can make shipping quieter, and how do we do that?
- 13:03And the good news is that researchers and engineers think we can do that.
- 13:08Some studies suggest slower vessel speeds can reduce underwater noise, but I know
- 13:12that's not the objective because the faster we get to places, the more business
- 13:16can be done and people get paid more.
- 13:18Now, new propeller designs can also help, and different
- 13:21engine technologies can help.
- 13:22So we've started to see some activities in there.
- 13:25The challenge is that all of those solutions require awareness first.
- 13:29Without awareness, people are not gonna change.
- 13:31People have to recognize there's a problem before they're willing to
- 13:34solve it, and hopefully it doesn't take orcas sinking some of these
- 13:37ships to get less noise being done.
- 13:39I want you to think about how important it is to reduce this noise.
- 13:44It's going to reduce noise pollution in the ocean around the world, essentially.
- 13:49If we start mandating that ships have better propellers, slower
- 13:54speeds, better designs, these are all things that we can manage, and
- 13:59we can help by reducing the noise.
- 14:01We may not get rid of the noise altogether, but we can make significant
- 14:04fronts and significant advances in changing that and see what happens.
- 14:08But you can't manage what you can't measure.
- 14:11And so having a monitoring system and measuring the level of noise and
- 14:15seeing how much we have to reduce by for pilot whales to be okay,
- 14:18that's something that's interesting.
- 14:19This study itself helps quantify the problem, and science often reveals
- 14:24impacts that were invisible before.
- 14:26So I think that's a really important point is that like a lot of times
- 14:30the engineering and science of it all, we can find stuff that
- 14:33we just didn't realize was there.
- 14:34I think that's the same thing as like when we look at the shark
- 14:36episode that we did on Monday.
- 14:38It's been a long while, I don't even think ever, we had great white
- 14:41on video in the Mediterranean.
- 14:43We didn't know that it was there.
- 14:44It was like invisible to us before 'cause we hadn't really been in that
- 14:48area looking for a shark, obviously, and we just so happened to be around it.
- 14:51Like Healthy Seas, that is, happened to be around it.
- 14:54So, there's ways to be able to detect it.
- 14:56You just have to be in the ocean, spend more time in the ocean, and have
- 14:59research and funding to be able to say, "Hey, you know what? This is something
- 15:03that is important because we need to make sure that we are measuring stuff."
- 15:07And today's story reminds us that even when animals are present, the
- 15:10environment around them may be changing in ways we don't immediately notice.
- 15:14We don't notice how much noise there is 'cause we're probably not in those areas.
- 15:17It's probably not like a very big swimming area.
- 15:21One thing that I find fascinating about ocean conservation, though,
- 15:23is that many of these biggest threats are completely invisible.
- 15:26Carbon dioxide, we didn't really know.
- 15:28We can measure it, but it's really hard to physically see what's happening.
- 15:31Warming oceans, although we can measure it, we don't really notice all that much.
- 15:35It's very anecdotal.
- 15:36And then noise pollution is another thing that we don't really notice.
- 15:39I live in an area where I have train tracks on one side in the front of the
- 15:43house, like a little further, but in the front of the house, and then a highway
- 15:46behind the house a little further.
- 15:48And a lot of times it becomes white noise.
- 15:50So we've been here for over 20 years.
- 15:52And so, a lot of the times, like when we hear the noise, 'cause there's
- 15:56an extra wind coming from that area.
- 15:58So if we hear the highway, 'cause there's a wind blowing to the
- 16:00south, or if we hear the train, the wind's blowing to the north.
- 16:04And because the wind will take that sound with us.
- 16:05Other than that, it's just kinda white noise.
- 16:07We'll know that the train's there, but we don't really talk about it.
- 16:10We don't really notice.
- 16:10It's not that big of a noise where we are.
- 16:12We're very fortunate.
- 16:13Other places, it's a lot louder, but we're pretty good.
- 16:16It's just kinda like white noise.
- 16:17We just don't realize it, but we don't realize how it affects us either,
- 16:19with these constant noise going off.
- 16:21So that's something that you have to worry about after a while, and
- 16:25I think that's something that's important to really look at.
- 16:28But the most important part of this story isn't that the pilot whales
- 16:30are struggling to hear each other.
- 16:32It's that we're learning the ocean isn't just a physical habitat.
- 16:35It's also an acoustical habitat.
- 16:37And if we want marine mammals to thrive, protecting the ocean means
- 16:41protecting the sounds that allow them to communicate, navigate, and survive.
- 16:46I think that's what's really important is there's multiple scales
- 16:48to conservation and protection, and sometimes it's physical where we can
- 16:51actually see what's being protected, and sometimes it's just audible.
- 16:54It's an acoustic protection.
- 16:56And sometimes it's a taste or smell, like there's some nasty pollutants out
- 16:59there that can really affect the water.
- 17:01Like, we can't detect if there are metals in the water molecules that get
- 17:05ingested or get absorbed into, like, whale blubber or fish or anything like that.
- 17:09But that's the episode for today.
- 17:11I wanna thank you so much for joining me.
- 17:13This has been a fun episode to go over.
- 17:14Obviously, this is a problem that needs to be solved.
- 17:17It can be solved over time, quicker the better.
- 17:19Hopefully, the shipping industry is being included on this conservation action
- 17:22and this trend that we're seeing, and hopefully we can see better rudders,
- 17:25better propellers, better ship design, slower speeds, all that kinda stuff,
- 17:30the management could come through.
- 17:31If we manage it, we can protect it, and that's what's really important.
- 17:34That's it for today's episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 17:37I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
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