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- 0:00Speaker 1: Just so fascinating, reckless at breakfast today at seven forty five,
- 0:03Speaker 1: and so much more coming your way. There are a
- 0:06Speaker 1: few people out there on a rampage social media wise.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Media wise, I don't want to name any names. Cam Cleveland,
- 0:13Speaker 1: but our guy Cam may be the guy that's most on.
- 0:16Speaker 1: He's challenging everybody out there to the notion that Bowl
- 0:20Speaker 1: games are are done. And so I disagree with Cam.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I love Cam, but I do believe that the Bowl
- 0:27Speaker 1: games are on their last leg. I think we and
- 0:31Speaker 1: I predicted that this was going to come someday. So
- 0:34Speaker 1: I'm a little biased toward this conversation. But for all
- 0:38Speaker 1: of those that seemed to be all upset that Notre
- 0:41Speaker 1: Dame has declined, maybe it was out of sour grapes
- 0:44Speaker 1: and that's a bit childish, But Iowa States said no,
- 0:47Speaker 1: and Kansas State said no, and Baylor has said no.
- 0:51Speaker 1: There's just there's just just more at stake now. There's
- 0:56Speaker 1: just more awareness of what's happening with these ball games
- 1:00Speaker 1: than there has been in the past, and there just
- 1:02Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be interest in it. Coaches are leaving
- 1:05Speaker 1: before they ever play in it. Players who have NFL
- 1:08Speaker 1: futures are opting out of them. I mean, even the
- 1:11Speaker 1: tired conversation about how it means so much to the boys, Well, really,
- 1:17Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys stayed together for four years
- 1:21Speaker 1: of college football in today's world? So we're gonna keep
- 1:24Speaker 1: bowl games so that somebody who transferred three times in
- 1:30Speaker 1: the last five years chasing nil money can play one
- 1:35Speaker 1: more game with the guy he's bunked with for six months.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I just don't even buy that. I think even that
- 1:42Speaker 1: argument has gone by the wayside. So I get that
- 1:45Speaker 1: Cam Cleland is still holding to it, but I think
- 1:47Speaker 1: it's because Cam Cleland loved that about his own personal experience.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I just don't think that's the experience anymore of college athletics.
- 1:56Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna stand on ceremony any longer. I
- 2:00Speaker 1: think they're on their last leg, their last breath, and
- 2:02Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised within the last five years that
- 2:05Speaker 1: we didn't even have bowl games period. Yeah, I don't.
- 2:08Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I fully agree with Cam,
- 2:11Speaker 2: but I don't fully agree with you. I think that
- 2:14Speaker 2: it's most certainly there's different circumstances and situations for all
- 2:19Speaker 2: these different guys, right I mean playing and simple. It
- 2:22Speaker 2: was hard when Christian McCaffrey's like, I don't want to
- 2:24Speaker 2: play in the bowl game.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Because I'm like, what like?
- 2:26Speaker 2: Because it was different, different, and yet it was all
- 2:28Speaker 2: It was different, and yet it was it's a smart decision.
- 2:31Speaker 2: You blow your knee out in a bowl game and
- 2:33Speaker 2: then it affects the rest of your career.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, Yes, and so you I get that.
- 2:39Speaker 2: So for that, okay, I understand if you're in that box,
- 2:43Speaker 2: you're going on to the next level and it's a
- 2:45Speaker 2: meaningless bowl game.
- 2:46Speaker 3: Now.
- 2:47Speaker 2: I mean if guys start when they start bowing out
- 2:49Speaker 2: of playoff games, national championship games because they're worried about
- 2:54Speaker 2: the future, well, then to some degree, it's like, well,
- 2:57Speaker 2: at what point did you feel that it was solidified
- 2:59Speaker 2: with at game six of your senior season or your
- 3:01Speaker 2: junior season and you're like, mah, I'm done for the
- 3:03Speaker 2: right here.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I read mel Kuiper. He had me already in the
- 3:07Speaker 1: first round.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I'm good because that to me is you're getting into
- 3:10Speaker 2: something where this selfishness takes over.
- 3:13Speaker 1: That's gonna be used against them. Yeah, in their football careers.
- 3:16Speaker 1: There's no NFL GM that's not going to bring up.
- 3:19Speaker 1: You backed out of your team with a national championship
- 3:22Speaker 1: to play, we don't want you.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Yeah, And so there's different there's different scenarios for different people.
- 3:29Speaker 2: There is some and I think this is where Cam's
- 3:31Speaker 2: come from to some degree, and I think his is
- 3:33Speaker 2: there's a little bit more of the ceremony of like
- 3:35Speaker 2: no just playing and simple. These guys got these things
- 3:37Speaker 2: have to stick around because how good they are. And
- 3:40Speaker 2: I don't know if they're necessarily good. As a matter
- 3:42Speaker 2: of fact, a lot of them, most certainly are not good.
- 3:44Speaker 2: I'm not sure they've ever been good. I think some
- 3:46Speaker 2: of them are good. I think I think there is some.
- 3:48Speaker 2: There's some guys that flat out their last game, think
- 3:52Speaker 2: about their last game of the regular season, and they
- 3:54Speaker 2: got six wins. Right, they're not any good. Their team's
- 3:56Speaker 2: not great, but they're not atrocious. They've got the six
- 3:58Speaker 2: wins and they know they can get one in their
- 4:00Speaker 2: bowl eligible. And there's some kids that can't wait to
- 4:03Speaker 2: play in it because it is going to be their
- 4:05Speaker 2: final real football game. So but they're not going to
- 4:09Speaker 2: keep it around just for that. They're keeping it around
- 4:12Speaker 2: because they have people that will you know, a Pop
- 4:15Speaker 2: Tart will say, hey, we'll sponsor a Bowl and then
- 4:18Speaker 2: the teams can get money. And money is important to
- 4:20Speaker 2: these teams even more so than well, maybe not more so,
- 4:24Speaker 2: but it's more necessary now because they have to give
- 4:26Speaker 2: some of that money away to the guys that are
- 4:28Speaker 2: actually out there playing. So I don't I think the
- 4:31Speaker 2: idea of some of the Bowl like maybe it might
- 4:34Speaker 2: be lessened to some degree. I think that there's going
- 4:37Speaker 2: to be more teams that are gonna opt out. It's
- 4:39Speaker 2: unfortunate because I'd be willing to bet that on any
- 4:41Speaker 2: team that opts out of it, that is not unanimous
- 4:43Speaker 2: when they opt out of it, just like if there's
- 4:45Speaker 2: teams that decide know we're going to play that that's
- 4:47Speaker 2: not unanimous that there's some guys that would like rather
- 4:50Speaker 2: like I don't know, maybe I'm on the fringe. I
- 4:52Speaker 2: might get to go to the combine and I don't
- 4:54Speaker 2: want to get hurt. And yet I we're not that good.
- 4:56Speaker 2: I'm not that big of a prospect to just quit
- 4:59Speaker 2: on my team.
- 4:59Speaker 1: And so let's use your Christian McCaffrey example. Because once
- 5:02Speaker 1: the example is set, than others follow right. It started
- 5:06Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey and everybody thought that was into the
- 5:08Speaker 1: world until the next year, ten guys did it, and
- 5:10Speaker 1: the next year forty guys did it, and it just
- 5:13Speaker 1: keeps climbing and the same thing's going to happen with this.
- 5:17Speaker 1: I mean again, Notre Dame's not the only team that
- 5:20Speaker 1: has opted out of this process. Four teams have opted
- 5:23Speaker 1: out of this process. Three of them not because they
- 5:26Speaker 1: felt jilted by the College Football Playoff Committee. There's more
- 5:30Speaker 1: at play, and I think that maybe there is a
- 5:33Speaker 1: way to do a bowl game, which I'll get to
- 5:35Speaker 1: in a moment, that could be the new way to
- 5:37Speaker 1: do bowl games going forward. But the old way that
- 5:41Speaker 1: it has been done is dead and I don't think
- 5:44Speaker 1: there's any resuscitating it. And part of that reason. Another
- 5:49Speaker 1: part of that reason is, you know, we don't have
- 5:52Speaker 1: the transfer window, the transfer portal until the first of January.
- 5:57Speaker 1: You got teams that are getting ready to play bowl games,
- 5:59Speaker 1: that have seens that have opted out, injured players that
- 6:03Speaker 1: aren't available. They got to put a team on the field.
- 6:06Speaker 1: They're playing freshmen who no one in the country has seen,
- 6:09Speaker 1: and you're going to expose those players who you've kept
- 6:12Speaker 1: under wraps to a bidding war potentially in the next
- 6:17Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Because your freshman wide receiver who was
- 6:20Speaker 1: a three star but you knew there were some great
- 6:23Speaker 1: things about him, caught one hundred and seventy two yards
- 6:25Speaker 1: worth of you know, yards against Kennesaw State and a
- 6:30Speaker 1: pooland weed Eater Bowl, and now you've lost them to
- 6:32Speaker 1: a bigger program. I mean, there is a lot more
- 6:35Speaker 1: that they're having to protect, secretive information that they're having
- 6:39Speaker 1: to protect that we never had to deal with before.
- 6:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that it is definitely the different levels,
- 6:46Speaker 4: right because I think looking at those players that it
- 6:50Speaker 4: is the ones that are moving on to a different career.
- 6:52Speaker 4: That's why it is important. And I think those are,
- 6:54Speaker 4: you know, the majority of a team. The majority of
- 6:56Speaker 4: a team is not going on to the NFL. The
- 6:58Speaker 4: majority of your team is done after college. But I
- 7:02Speaker 4: can also understand, yeah, the necessity of well, now we're
- 7:06Speaker 4: fielding a team. Now all of a sudden, we've got
- 7:08Speaker 4: all these other things that we're going to we have
- 7:10Speaker 4: to consider in this new world of college football, and
- 7:12Speaker 4: maybe ball games don't fit in. But I can definitely
- 7:15Speaker 4: understand where Cam is coming from and saying that they
- 7:18Speaker 4: are still important, and I think they're important to the
- 7:20Speaker 4: majority of the team, not just the big names. And
- 7:24Speaker 4: that's where I think he's coming from.
- 7:26Speaker 1: But but why is it important to play one more game?
- 7:29Speaker 1: We don't do that in any other way. I think
- 7:31Speaker 1: when you go when you go to a bull game,
- 7:32Speaker 1: you don't get done with a baseball season and just say,
- 7:35Speaker 1: let's everything.
- 7:36Speaker 2: They have a senior day in high school, your senior
- 7:39Speaker 2: basketball to.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Day, that's your last dame. Why is it that not
- 7:41Speaker 1: a last.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Well, but if you get the opportunity to play one
- 7:43Speaker 2: more after your senior day, like if you.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Are, that's why that's important. I mean, that's sweet, it's cute.
- 7:50Speaker 1: But we obviously have moved past that. We're now running
- 7:53Speaker 1: this stuff like a business. Why do we need to
- 7:55Speaker 1: protect that ceremonial? Like I said before, it's not like
- 7:59Speaker 1: I mean, once point a time, it was four guys
- 8:02Speaker 1: that are excuse me, fourteen guys that have been together
- 8:04Speaker 1: for four or five years, and let's play one more
- 8:07Speaker 1: game for them. How many guys together as a group
- 8:10Speaker 1: even make it to their senior sit.
- 8:12Speaker 2: I thing has nothing to do with playing with your
- 8:14Speaker 2: the same guys. It's just playing and simple. If you
- 8:18Speaker 2: know that this is your last game possibly and then
- 8:21Speaker 2: you win it, and so then you get a possibility
- 8:24Speaker 2: at another game, that other game means something. I mean,
- 8:27Speaker 2: I luckily I got to play beyond college, But had
- 8:30Speaker 2: I thought my last game in college was my last
- 8:32Speaker 2: game and somebody gave me another opportunity to play, I
- 8:34Speaker 2: would have wanted to play in it.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Now.
- 8:36Speaker 2: If you don't for whatever reason, because you know you're
- 8:38Speaker 2: going on, I don't fault them for making a smart.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Business choice there.
- 8:43Speaker 2: If you don't because you think the program like we
- 8:46Speaker 2: don't want to give away secrets, or with this little
- 8:49Speaker 2: sneaky three star guy that we had, I would be
- 8:52Speaker 2: more worried about you losing a recruit that you have
- 8:56Speaker 2: because you have too many guys that are they can't
- 8:59Speaker 2: play or they're gonna move on, and so you're gonna
- 9:01Speaker 2: go out there and just lay in ay, you're gonna
- 9:02Speaker 2: look really, really bad. And then like this other three
- 9:06Speaker 2: star guy that you're trying to bring in is like,
- 9:08Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna go play there, because
- 9:09Speaker 2: I mean, if that's how who's gone next year, and
- 9:12Speaker 2: that's the team that I'm going into that doesn't seem
- 9:15Speaker 2: like a place that I want to go.
- 9:16Speaker 1: All right, Well, there's more. I know we all have
- 9:18Speaker 1: more to say about us. We'll continue the conversation next
- 9:20Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM. All right, Chuck, Bile, Buggy, Jacobson,
- 9:29Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan with you. Just picking up on the conversation,
- 9:33Speaker 1: I had said that I think the Bowl games are
- 9:36Speaker 1: not gonna recover. I think that they are dinosaurs shivering
- 9:39Speaker 1: in the snow. I think their days are numbered. They
- 9:42Speaker 1: might look differently. There might be a way to preserve them,
- 9:44Speaker 1: which hopefully I'll get some time to discuss here in
- 9:47Speaker 1: a little bit. But I would just ask again. Bucky
- 9:50Speaker 1: answered it. Ashley wanted to didn't get a chance to.
- 9:53Speaker 1: I mean, we don't you played baseball. They didn't preserve
- 9:57Speaker 1: the right for you to play another game, even though
- 10:00Speaker 1: you wanted to do it. I just I'm not gonna
- 10:03Speaker 1: stop the wheels of progress just because we're used to
- 10:07Speaker 1: football players getting the chance to play another game together.
- 10:11Speaker 1: We don't do it in any other sport or in
- 10:13Speaker 1: any other walk of life. The only reason we want
- 10:15Speaker 1: to do it for these kids is it's because we
- 10:17Speaker 1: grew up with it. Yeah.
- 10:19Speaker 4: Well, and I do think here's part of the problem.
- 10:21Speaker 4: We've been complaining about bowl games for a couple of years, right,
- 10:23Speaker 4: they've just gone years. Yeah, they've just gotten out of
- 10:26Speaker 4: control with the amount of bowl games, and it seems like,
- 10:29Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think a team that wins seven
- 10:32Speaker 4: games should.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Be in a bowl.
- 10:34Speaker 4: I do think they should be reserved for having a
- 10:36Speaker 4: better season. So I do think you could limit the
- 10:39Speaker 4: amount of bowl games that you have but still give
- 10:41Speaker 4: that opportunity because it is an experience, that's what it is.
- 10:44Speaker 4: It's not it is one extra game, but you get
- 10:46Speaker 4: the extra practices, the extra time with your team, and
- 10:49Speaker 4: you get the experience of going to the city where
- 10:51Speaker 4: the bowl game is. Right, they go all out, they
- 10:54Speaker 4: have big festivities every night, and so it's not just
- 10:56Speaker 4: the one game.
- 10:57Speaker 1: It's the extra week of like a a bonding time
- 11:01Speaker 1: with your team.
- 11:02Speaker 4: And I again, I don't know that that's necessarily the
- 11:05Speaker 4: important thing for those guys that are transferring every year
- 11:08Speaker 4: and the big names that are just going for the
- 11:09Speaker 4: best opportunity in the most money. It's for the guys
- 11:12Speaker 4: that are the heart and soul of the team that
- 11:14Speaker 4: haven't left, aren't going somewhere else for more money and
- 11:16Speaker 4: are just there.
- 11:17Speaker 5: Well.
- 11:17Speaker 1: I just heard Brady Quinn talk about this this morning,
- 11:20Speaker 1: and granted he's he's been burned by the process, so
- 11:23Speaker 1: he's not happy with college football right now. But he
- 11:26Speaker 1: said that his senior year, they went to a bowl
- 11:28Speaker 1: game that was beneath what they thought they should have
- 11:31Speaker 1: been and they just treated it like a party. And
- 11:34Speaker 1: he said, what is why is that worth preserving? I
- 11:36Speaker 1: would ask the same thing, why is it worth preserving
- 11:39Speaker 1: giving a bunch of seniors who've had a lot better
- 11:42Speaker 1: college experience than I had? Or you, well, you probably
- 11:45Speaker 1: had a pretty good one at USC But why wage
- 11:49Speaker 1: so hell bent on preserving a party week for these
- 11:53Speaker 1: guys just so they can bond together. Go bond on
- 11:56Speaker 1: your own. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't see that
- 11:59Speaker 1: that being valuable enough to keep it going. If that's
- 12:03Speaker 1: the only reason that we're doing it, then I don't
- 12:05Speaker 1: think that's valuable enough. If the reason is because coaches
- 12:08Speaker 1: want the extra playing time, then let's create a different
- 12:10Speaker 1: type of bowl game. I've talked about this and Reckless
- 12:13Speaker 1: at Breakfast in the past. Let's talk about one that
- 12:15Speaker 1: seniors can't play in that you do do it after
- 12:18Speaker 1: the transfer portal window. Either do it after the transfer
- 12:22Speaker 1: portal window, and let's showcase next season's players. And I
- 12:27Speaker 1: think that the fans would be more interested in it.
- 12:29Speaker 1: I think a freshman that didn't get to play would
- 12:31Speaker 1: be excited about that. And it would be we could
- 12:34Speaker 1: replace the spring game, which seems to be an encumbrance
- 12:38Speaker 1: to the entire calendar college football calendar and the process.
- 12:43Speaker 1: And so we just reserved that in January, and we
- 12:46Speaker 1: have bowl games in warm cities, and we do it
- 12:48Speaker 1: for the underclassmen who are going to stick around with
- 12:52Speaker 1: the program, and we just give people a taste of
- 12:54Speaker 1: what's coming next. I think that would be far more
- 12:57Speaker 1: interesting than making sure a bunch of seniors who spent
- 13:00Speaker 1: forty four years partying get the party one more time
- 13:03Speaker 1: together on somebody else's dime. Uh yeah, I mean, I
- 13:07Speaker 1: just don't understand. I don't understand the I guess.
- 13:10Speaker 2: I mean, you boycotted bowl games for a long time, right,
- 13:12Speaker 2: you just don't like them.
- 13:14Speaker 1: I don't know exactly why. Well, it's because of the corruption.
- 13:17Speaker 1: It's like you guys are talking about there were good
- 13:20Speaker 1: bowl games. Yes, there were good quality bowl games, but
- 13:23Speaker 1: there was never any good reason why we were having them.
- 13:26Speaker 1: It was all money. It was all money grip. Yeah,
- 13:28Speaker 1: and it still is and so to me. But it
- 13:30Speaker 1: wasn't always. It wasn't ever going to the players, and
- 13:33Speaker 1: it hardly none of it was going to the players.
- 13:36Speaker 1: It was just and very little of it was actually
- 13:39Speaker 1: going to programs. Most of it was being pocketed by
- 13:42Speaker 1: you know, fat cats in pastel suits that wanted to
- 13:47Speaker 1: I watched it happen. John Junker went to prison for it. Yeah, well,
- 13:51Speaker 1: I think for what it's worry.
- 13:52Speaker 2: I mean, the good old days of college football, there
- 13:54Speaker 2: still was money being handed. I just know we weren't
- 13:57Speaker 2: knowing about it, right, Like some of the players are
- 13:59Speaker 2: getting paid there. There's been ugly stuff going on in
- 14:02Speaker 2: college football forever. To me, this is just if there's
- 14:06Speaker 2: there's money that these teams get for going and playing
- 14:08Speaker 2: into some silly bowl. There is some players on the
- 14:12Speaker 2: team that want to play, and if there's others that don't,
- 14:15Speaker 2: they don't have to if the entire team decides not to.
- 14:19Speaker 1: For whatever reason.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Okay, if you come up with that on your own,
- 14:21Speaker 2: you don't want to go participate in it. You don't
- 14:23Speaker 2: want the paycheck however big or small, it is fine.
- 14:26Speaker 2: I just there's I just don't understand the the I
- 14:30Speaker 2: just want them all gone, except for because they're still
- 14:33Speaker 2: gonna always call whatever these playoff games are. They're gonna
- 14:35Speaker 2: call them a bowl game because they're gonna be. That's fine,
- 14:37Speaker 2: They're gonna be. Those are the only ones sponsored by something.
- 14:40Speaker 2: But I just don't understand the I don't want bowl
- 14:43Speaker 2: games for you know, whoever's on Nebraska's team this year
- 14:47Speaker 2: that isn't going to play after this, Like I don't
- 14:50Speaker 2: want them to be able to play in a game.
- 14:52Speaker 2: I just don't understand the reason for not wanting them
- 14:55Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to play another game.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Well, I got a billion of them, but we don't
- 14:58Speaker 1: have time, all right, Greg Bell's X Sports Radio ninety
- 15:01Speaker 1: three point three kJ R f M. Let's go back
- 15:04Speaker 1: in time a little bit. We've had a lot of
- 15:06Speaker 1: SEC guys on here. They've never admitted it, but we
- 15:08Speaker 1: all know that SEC was an I l before in IL.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Hey you know you know, hey, hey, what's work? Way
- 15:17Speaker 1: past it? Queen? Now just admitt it?
- 15:19Speaker 6: Oh good, Hey, going, I say, coach, you know you've
- 15:22Speaker 6: been not a coaching for a while, and though how do.
- 15:25Speaker 1: You adjust at N I l so well, so minor adjustment.
- 15:30Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 15:31Speaker 5: I said?
- 15:31Speaker 6: Back then we used to walk through the back door
- 15:33Speaker 6: to cash.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Now we just got to walk through the foot door to.
- 15:43Speaker 5: You.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Unmistakable lead orser on on busting with the boys? Is
- 15:46Speaker 1: that what that is? Correct?
- 15:47Speaker 4: Taylor Lawan and uh now Will Compton all right, seven.
- 15:51Speaker 1: O'clock hour, Chuck Buck and Ashley with you. We roll
- 15:54Speaker 1: in Reckless at Breakfast coming a little bit later on
- 15:57Speaker 1: this hour. Uh also Greg Bell and a matter of
- 16:00Speaker 1: seconds to talk about the Seahawks and the Colts coming
- 16:03Speaker 1: up this Sunday. But first let me rip through your
- 16:05Speaker 1: headlines brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps Light Choose
- 16:08Speaker 1: Chill Hump Day, Seahawks Colts Sunday I won twenty five.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was signed to the practice squad yesterday, and yeah,
- 16:15Speaker 1: there's no plan for him to play against the Seahawks.
- 16:18Speaker 1: But if Riley Leonard cannot go, they're gonna have to
- 16:22Speaker 1: field a backup quarterback on the roster. And that means
- 16:25Speaker 1: you're one injury away from Yes, Philip Rivers playing against
- 16:29Speaker 1: the Seahawks this Sunday. We'll talk more about that with
- 16:32Speaker 1: Craig coming up here in a minute. Week fifteen of
- 16:35Speaker 1: the National Football League season, Thursday Night football Falcons at
- 16:39Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will get it started. College football,
- 16:42Speaker 1: the La Bowl will be played this Saturday. Army Navy
- 16:46Speaker 1: Week and Heisman Trophy also being announced today or see
- 16:52Speaker 1: me on Saturday as well. The Major League Baseball Winter
- 16:55Speaker 1: Meetings continue. Kyle Schwarber is a Philly still Edwin DIA's
- 17:01Speaker 1: former Mariner has moved from the Mets to the Dodgers,
- 17:04Speaker 1: really the only two moves that have been made at
- 17:06Speaker 1: the entire Winter meetings. There are rumblings that are a
- 17:09Speaker 1: Polanco and his agent are asking for too much money
- 17:12Speaker 1: and for too many years from the Mariners, so that
- 17:15Speaker 1: they are seriously contemplating Plan B in that area. We'll
- 17:19Speaker 1: talk more about that later on this hour as well.
- 17:21Speaker 1: White Sox won the MLB lottery, the new fangled MLB lottery.
- 17:26Speaker 1: They do it in a much different way these days.
- 17:28Speaker 1: It's far too complicated to explain in a short period
- 17:31Speaker 1: of time. Just know that the White Sox ended up
- 17:34Speaker 1: with the number one pick this year and the Kraken
- 17:36Speaker 1: in action trying to snap a six game losing streak
- 17:39Speaker 1: tonight at home against the Los Angeles Kings. Al Kiniski
- 17:43Speaker 1: will join us to discuss the drought today at nine thirty.
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- 18:07Speaker 1: Now with Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Bud.
- 18:12Speaker 5: Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
- 18:16Speaker 3: H.
- 18:19Speaker 1: God. I was gonna jump right into Philip Rivers talk,
- 18:22Speaker 1: but let's let's make sure we have some beat Navy
- 18:25Speaker 1: talk before we start.
- 18:27Speaker 5: Let it move on.
- 18:28Speaker 3: We have to set that as a fact today, Okay,
- 18:32Speaker 3: Philip Rivers.
- 18:32Speaker 1: How many know how many of your how many of
- 18:34Speaker 1: your guys are going to be there? How many how
- 18:36Speaker 1: many of your buddies are waiting for you and uh
- 18:39Speaker 1: for this game this weekend.
- 18:41Speaker 3: The best man in my wedding and my roommate for
- 18:44Speaker 3: two semesters is that's the main attraction for us and
- 18:47Speaker 3: our families are tight, and then we're going to see him,
- 18:50Speaker 3: and then it's usually about a dozen guys I haven't
- 18:53Speaker 3: seen a while.
- 18:54Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so it is. It is quite a.
- 19:01Speaker 3: Party, and it's what the great thing is. When we
- 19:04Speaker 3: see each other, it's like we've seen each other yesterday,
- 19:06Speaker 3: because we're still tight and gone through quite a bit together,
- 19:09Speaker 3: and our spouses and families always amazed about Wait a minute,
- 19:12Speaker 3: he said, you haven't seen this guy in twenty years.
- 19:14Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of work.
- 19:16Speaker 1: When you were all kids to get kids, at one
- 19:18Speaker 1: point in your life, did you look up to Philip
- 19:21Speaker 1: Rivers and how good a football player he was back
- 19:23Speaker 1: when you were children.
- 19:26Speaker 5: Back when my when my mom and dad were watching.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a Philip Rivers, one of your dad's
- 19:33Speaker 1: favorite growing up.
- 19:36Speaker 5: I think Philip Rivers and Terry Bradshup played against each other.
- 19:41Speaker 3: You know, yesterday we talked about it, and at first,
- 19:45Speaker 3: Bucky and I both agreed at first, there's no way
- 19:47Speaker 3: he's gonna be ready for Sunday. But then when I
- 19:49Speaker 3: started looking into this, he's a high school football coach.
- 19:53Speaker 5: You may have talked about this. He's a high school
- 19:55Speaker 5: football coach at Saint.
- 19:56Speaker 3: Michael and Pharaoh Alabama. He coaches his Philip coaches his
- 20:00Speaker 3: son there. His son is a four or five star
- 20:04Speaker 3: rated quarterback recruited by Auburn and others. And they run
- 20:08Speaker 3: Shane Steiken's offense. And I didn't realize that Steiken had
- 20:12Speaker 3: been his quarterback coach for as long as he had
- 20:14Speaker 3: with the Chargers six years, and in the last year
- 20:18Speaker 3: and a half of that, well, the last season of that,
- 20:21Speaker 3: he was the offensive coordinator and play caller for Rivers
- 20:24Speaker 3: and the Chargers, and then that was twenty nineteen. Steiken
- 20:28Speaker 3: took over full time as the offensive coordinator in twenty twenty,
- 20:30Speaker 3: but that was the year the only year that Rivers
- 20:34Speaker 3: played for the Colts, and then he retired or supposedly
- 20:37Speaker 3: so after the twenty twenty season. But the point is,
- 20:40Speaker 3: not only does he know Steiken's offense, he calls it
- 20:43Speaker 3: and runs it. In high school four A Alabama Class
- 20:47Speaker 3: four A, not podunk football, big time Alabama high school football,
- 20:51Speaker 3: Class four A. They went thirteen and oh this year,
- 20:53Speaker 3: and then they lost two weeks ago in the second
- 20:55Speaker 3: round of the state playoffs. And in doing so, he
- 21:00Speaker 3: has been throwing the ball around.
- 21:01Speaker 5: JJ Watt of.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Course, the All Pro at dresser and now a CBS
- 21:06Speaker 3: game analyst said he learned in a production meeting yesterday
- 21:10Speaker 3: that Philip Rivers has been chucking the ball around in
- 21:13Speaker 3: those practices with his son in addition to running stain
- 21:17Speaker 3: Stecken's offense.
- 21:19Speaker 5: So Watt said, there.
- 21:20Speaker 3: Will be no run up in learning this off it here.
- 21:23Speaker 3: He knows it, and he's been throwing the ball somewhat regularly,
- 21:28Speaker 3: and so he's not just been sitting on the couch
- 21:29Speaker 3: for the five years since he last played. Of course,
- 21:31Speaker 3: he has ten kids and a grandkid, so we're not
- 21:33Speaker 3: gonna be sitting on the couch anyway. But the point is,
- 21:38Speaker 3: I'm beginning to believe Philip Rivers, at age forty four
- 21:41Speaker 3: during the holidays in Alabama, is not going to get
- 21:44Speaker 3: on a plane and go to Seattle to not play,
- 21:48Speaker 3: to back up Riley Leonard or Brett Ribbon or anybody.
- 21:53Speaker 3: It's lining up to me that he's playing Sunday.
- 21:56Speaker 5: Wow, which man is that.
- 21:58Speaker 3: I just don't see him playing. And in the culture
- 22:02Speaker 3: and such dire straits they have to win. They've lost
- 22:05Speaker 3: four to last five to go from seven to one
- 22:07Speaker 3: to eight and five, and on the edge of the
- 22:08Speaker 3: playoff race in the AIRC They wouldn't have done this
- 22:11Speaker 3: move now if they didn't think he could play right
- 22:13Speaker 3: now now that they didn't sign me the active roster
- 22:16Speaker 3: because okay, let's see it. Let's see him in person
- 22:19Speaker 3: day to day, and if he's casted, it will levate
- 22:22Speaker 3: him from the practice bittle. Let's not use a roster
- 22:24Speaker 3: spot on him just yet. But guys, this may become
- 22:27Speaker 3: the most interesting NFL game of the season and in
- 22:30Speaker 3: many seasons in regular season anyway.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be interesting, and I think it'd
- 22:35Speaker 2: be great if he somehow figures our way to suit
- 22:38Speaker 2: up just to see the theater that will ensue good luck,
- 22:41Speaker 2: because it's not an easy task going back into the NFL,
- 22:45Speaker 2: especially against Mike McDonald in this defense.
- 22:48Speaker 1: But I would just one more on that.
- 22:50Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, I think there's no way if
- 22:52Speaker 2: andsrobots that he still has been throwing the ball and
- 22:55Speaker 2: you know, he can probably still shot and put it
- 22:56Speaker 2: the way he does, you know, back in twenty twenty played.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I think the mental side of understanding the offense. Yep,
- 23:04Speaker 2: he's calling the offense, not necessarily playing it, but the
- 23:07Speaker 2: speed of the game right. I mean, just to me,
- 23:10Speaker 2: I've talked a lot of times before about you just
- 23:14Speaker 2: take the offseason off and all of a sudden, everything
- 23:17Speaker 2: is different. It takes a couple of weeks to get
- 23:19Speaker 2: acclimated to just how hard the ball is coming in
- 23:23Speaker 2: when you get back to spring training, and so speed
- 23:25Speaker 2: wise of the game. I mean, have you ever seen
- 23:28Speaker 2: anybody miss just a year and then when they come back,
- 23:31Speaker 2: you know, you're watching them at practice and things look rusty,
- 23:35Speaker 2: but it's like because of the speed, not necessarily because
- 23:38Speaker 2: of lack of repetitions.
- 23:42Speaker 3: Marshawn lens he signed with the Seahawks and Christmas Eve
- 23:45Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and that's the famous.
- 23:49Speaker 5: Press conference when I asked him why he came back
- 23:51Speaker 5: and he said, Mary New Year, he pulled an Eddie
- 23:54Speaker 5: Murphy come into America me. That's one of my favorite
- 23:57Speaker 5: moments with him.
- 23:59Speaker 3: I I when I watched him in practices that week,
- 24:04Speaker 3: we could only watch him at the beginning of practices.
- 24:07Speaker 3: He did look like, Okay, it's gonna take him a
- 24:10Speaker 3: little bit to roll into this, and he played that week.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Now that's a running back. But to Bucky's point, but Bucky,
- 24:17Speaker 3: could you take a year off and then come back.
- 24:19Speaker 3: And see the difference here with the Rivers is he
- 24:21Speaker 3: took five years off and then he's coming back in
- 24:24Speaker 3: the playoff run in December with no training camp, no
- 24:28Speaker 3: run ups at all. Could you come in to September
- 24:32Speaker 3: after being off just a year and hit a major
- 24:35Speaker 3: league fastball.
- 24:36Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying.
- 24:37Speaker 2: The timing wise, I couldn't even though on my body,
- 24:40Speaker 2: if my body back in the day was still good
- 24:42Speaker 2: enough to actually swing the bat at the speed I
- 24:45Speaker 2: need to do it. No, the timing wouldn't be there.
- 24:48Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. I don't think anything mentally, and
- 24:50Speaker 2: I think enough physically. It will be fine with him
- 24:53Speaker 2: because we've seen it before. Guys that are older can
- 24:56Speaker 2: can play quarterback. But it's the timing part of it
- 24:59Speaker 2: that I've would be toughest to figure out.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Well, here's what the Colts and Saint Stichen are thinking.
- 25:05Speaker 3: Is that possible gap in timing worse than having Riley
- 25:09Speaker 3: Leonard hurt right or Brett Rippon start? And I bet
- 25:14Speaker 3: they're thinking, No, I'll take a forty four year old
- 25:17Speaker 3: Hall of Fame grandpa who was one of the best
- 25:20Speaker 3: of his generation even five years removed from that over
- 25:24Speaker 3: those two with the season on the line, that seems
- 25:27Speaker 3: to be the calculus that they're thinking in the Colts
- 25:29Speaker 3: headquarters right now. Do we just roll with it and
- 25:33Speaker 3: see if he can catch up the speed during the game.
- 25:36Speaker 3: Let's hand it to Jonathan Taylor a few times in
- 25:38Speaker 3: the first half of the game so we can he
- 25:40Speaker 3: can get his field feet under him, throw a couple
- 25:43Speaker 3: of screens and dump offfs.
- 25:44Speaker 5: And then get go on.
- 25:45Speaker 3: And that seems to be what they're thinking about. I
- 25:48Speaker 3: just you don't do this with this in these situations,
- 25:52Speaker 3: with this few games and the way the Colts are
- 25:54Speaker 3: headed and how they have to win now in the
- 25:57Speaker 3: next four weeks. You don't do that now if you're
- 26:00Speaker 3: not gonna.
- 26:00Speaker 5: Play them now. That's what I'm starting to think about.
- 26:02Speaker 3: As preposterous as all this is, it might be their
- 26:05Speaker 3: best option now having said all this, if you're Mike
- 26:09Speaker 3: McDonald and the Seahawks, what are you thinking? And then
- 26:12Speaker 3: we're gonna ask a Quesse this is I.
- 26:14Speaker 1: Want to see how Philip Rivers on that high school
- 26:16Speaker 1: football field simulated Mike McDonald's defense.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Right there, weren't any of Saint Michael High school's defenses
- 26:25Speaker 3: having nick emun warream Lafe at defensive end with Tevin
- 26:28Speaker 3: Williston behind him. Yes, yes, and yes. But for the Seahawks,
- 26:33Speaker 3: I wonder is this worse Because Mike McDonald's on Monday
- 26:38Speaker 3: talked about the wild card of a rookie quarterback. They
- 26:40Speaker 3: don't have much tape on them, and so they don't
- 26:42Speaker 3: it's a little tough, he says. It's actually tougher at
- 26:45Speaker 3: times for these rookie quarterbacks to get a game plan
- 26:48Speaker 3: and they're just going to do what they do. It's
- 26:50Speaker 3: got to be even tougher a forty four year old
- 26:53Speaker 3: Hall of Fame or is it played in five years?
- 26:55Speaker 3: You're talking about unpredictability. Is he gonna have any kind
- 26:58Speaker 3: of mobility? Is he going to get away from any
- 27:01Speaker 3: pressure at all? You would think that this plays in
- 27:04Speaker 3: even more to the seahawks favor because their defense just
- 27:07Speaker 3: tees off on quarterbacks who are not mobile. If there
- 27:10Speaker 3: was ever an immobile quarterback, one who's forty four grandpa
- 27:14Speaker 3: and hasn't played in five years, it's got to be
- 27:16Speaker 3: the definition of that.
- 27:17Speaker 5: Right.
- 27:18Speaker 3: So, as crazy as it sounds, as Mike McDonald might
- 27:22Speaker 3: be thinking, Holy cal this couldn't work out better for me.
- 27:26Speaker 5: Now.
- 27:27Speaker 3: The story of stories, of course, would be for Rivers
- 27:30Speaker 3: to just light it up and throw for four hundred
- 27:32Speaker 3: yards in the rain after not playing for five years.
- 27:36Speaker 3: That would be unpressed at.
- 27:37Speaker 5: It in the league.
- 27:38Speaker 3: And I don't know that the Colts are going to
- 27:40Speaker 3: ask him to do that. This is still going to
- 27:41Speaker 3: be a Jonathan Taylor game. But the quarterback on third
- 27:44Speaker 3: and eight will be one of the best of his
- 27:46Speaker 3: generation to do it, even if he's forty four. It
- 27:48Speaker 3: hasn't played in five years. It's wild. But the more
- 27:51Speaker 3: I think about it, the more I think he's not
- 27:53Speaker 3: coming to Seattle to stand on the sidelines in the rain.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Bail Junior, I need you to be Devin Witherspoon on
- 27:59Speaker 1: this play. Monty, you come in here, You're gonna be
- 28:01Speaker 1: Leonard Williams. I got to get some practice in. Honey, Honey, honey,
- 28:05Speaker 1: put down the wash. I need you to come out
- 28:07Speaker 1: here and be Ernest Jones for me. I gotta figure
- 28:11Speaker 1: out I can need some practice against the Seahawks defense.
- 28:14Speaker 3: Well, between his wife and ten kids, he's got enough.
- 28:17Speaker 3: He's got eleven right there to have a defense.
- 28:19Speaker 5: He's got the numbers question.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't have to.
- 28:21Speaker 5: He didn't even have to go outside his house.
- 28:23Speaker 1: He's got the numbers. There's no question about that. Greg
- 28:26Speaker 1: bellis with us, our Seahawks insider, joins us nearly every
- 28:29Speaker 1: day here on the radio program gets you updated on
- 28:32Speaker 1: the Seahawks as they get ready to face the Indianapolis Colts.
- 28:36Speaker 1: And I suppose there are other stories than Philip Rivers
- 28:41Speaker 1: heading into this game. But I'll ask again about Jalen Sundell.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Did we get any more information about what's going to
- 28:49Speaker 1: happen with the offensive line?
- 28:51Speaker 5: No, we're off yesterday. Yeah, and they haven't.
- 28:55Speaker 3: They haven't activated him officially yet, so his clock hasn't started.
- 28:58Speaker 3: I'm expecting them to do that so that some doe
- 29:01Speaker 3: can get the full week of practice starting today. Of course,
- 29:04Speaker 3: I asked on Monday, does that mean he's going to
- 29:06Speaker 3: guard center? And McCone just looked at me and said, yes,
- 29:08Speaker 3: he said, we'll see. I think it's gonna be center.
- 29:11Speaker 3: I think they're going to, for continuity's sake, keep Bradford
- 29:14Speaker 3: at right guard, and they're going to roll back to
- 29:16Speaker 3: how they began the season. Listen Doll at center, Bradford
- 29:19Speaker 3: at right guard, and I mentioned he said that in Atlanta.
- 29:22Speaker 3: McDonald said that McDonald or that Anthony Bradford was their
- 29:26Speaker 3: highest rated offensive lineman, better in past protection than he's
- 29:30Speaker 3: been in a while. So I know fans would go,
- 29:33Speaker 3: what are you talking about. I'm going to take the
- 29:35Speaker 3: coaches and at his word and maybe they know a
- 29:38Speaker 3: little bit more than we do about this, unless he's
- 29:40Speaker 3: just flat out line and trying to support his guard.
- 29:44Speaker 3: Now McDonald doesn't seem to do that. Carol would always,
- 29:47Speaker 3: to a fault protect his guys and talk well of
- 29:50Speaker 3: them and shine them up. McDonald not so much. He'll
- 29:53Speaker 3: just kind of be if the guys, we'll see type
- 29:57Speaker 3: of thing. He I get the feeling that they're going
- 30:01Speaker 3: to just go back to week one with soundel and
- 30:04Speaker 3: then they'll have Abo Timmy as a backup swing center
- 30:07Speaker 3: and guard. The fact remains, if they had a better
- 30:10Speaker 3: option Anthony Bradford, they would have used them already. And
- 30:13Speaker 3: I don't think that at the expensive Center. The challenge
- 30:16Speaker 3: is going to be that.
- 30:18Speaker 1: All right, Greg, excellent stuff, Thank you very much. You
- 30:22Speaker 1: know what's the first tradition that you guys will take
- 30:26Speaker 1: part in when you meet together for the Army Navy game.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Is it just a beer, is it a toast or
- 30:31Speaker 1: is it secretive?
- 30:33Speaker 3: We actually we don't have an actual standard every time.
- 30:37Speaker 3: We all come in at different times. So yeah, it's
- 30:41Speaker 3: I can't think of a turch. We always have a
- 30:42Speaker 3: tailgate party. We always go to the march on and
- 30:45Speaker 3: watch the Yeah that's do a clinic on drill and
- 30:48Speaker 3: watch the midshipman look like Snoopy and Woodstock. It's just
- 30:51Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculously. I don't know why they do it. It's just
- 30:56Speaker 3: their scars are all askew and it looks like they
- 30:59Speaker 3: just came off the street and started walking around the
- 31:02Speaker 3: stadium like ushers or something. Anyone who's been an Arbor
- 31:06Speaker 3: Davy game knows exactly what I'm talking about.
- 31:10Speaker 1: No, actually we don't. We don't look at it with
- 31:13Speaker 1: that find of an eye. I've seen it.
- 31:15Speaker 3: They have to be that fine of an eye.
- 31:16Speaker 5: They just have two eyes.
- 31:18Speaker 3: You can see that. The Navy has absolutely no precision.
- 31:22Speaker 3: It's like they never have drilled before, the undisciplined. It'd
- 31:26Speaker 3: be like a bunch of frat boys you dub try
- 31:28Speaker 3: to do drill. It's just unbelievable. Their scarves are all askew,
- 31:33Speaker 3: and their buttons are off and some of them have
- 31:35Speaker 3: been untucked. Some of them. I've seen this before. They
- 31:38Speaker 3: wear sunglasses, which is absolutely against military rigs in all
- 31:42Speaker 3: forms and official duty uniform wearing sunglasses. I mean, anyway,
- 31:47Speaker 3: it's like a damn country club down there in the backlash.
- 31:50Speaker 1: A man, we'll do some roundtable tomorrow, all right, we
- 31:54Speaker 1: will thank you, all right, Greg Bell, our Seahawks set
- 31:57Speaker 1: insider gets fired up this time of the year. That's
- 32:00Speaker 1: a great rant right now. Bias at all?
- 32:01Speaker 2: No not, I mean, I think he looks at it
- 32:04Speaker 2: very evenly from both sides. I think there's any hidden
- 32:09Speaker 2: agenda there.
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- 32:26Speaker 1: only with Copola Diamond Prosecco. I think he's taken a
- 32:30Speaker 1: little too far. With Philip Rivers. I have a really
- 32:32Speaker 1: really hard time believing that he would be starting by
- 32:35Speaker 1: this Sunday, But I think he is being brought back
- 32:38Speaker 1: to play. I will say that I think he will
- 32:40Speaker 1: play at some point. I think the idea is to
- 32:41Speaker 1: eventually get him there. It seems impossible to get him
- 32:45Speaker 1: up to speed in time for Sunday against Mike McDonald's defense.
- 32:48Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that if Ripman goes down with
- 32:51Speaker 1: an injury that he's not on the sidelines. And guess
- 32:54Speaker 1: who's coming into the game. I think there is a
- 32:56Speaker 1: chance that we will face him this week. It's just
- 32:59Speaker 1: hard for me to believe that it'll start coming up
- 33:01Speaker 1: next Major League Baseball Winter Meetings. Interesting little tidbit in
- 33:05Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. Maybe your a Polanco is
- 33:09Speaker 1: asking for too much money? What then Sports Radio ninety
- 33:12Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM get rid of some of this
- 33:15Speaker 1: drama here in the future. There's no solving it entirely.
- 33:18Speaker 1: You're always going to have a committee. There's always going
- 33:21Speaker 1: to be subcepjectivity. You got one hundred and forty teams
- 33:24Speaker 1: that you're trying to shove into a twelve piece box
- 33:26Speaker 1: here at the end of the season, and there's always
- 33:30Speaker 1: doesn't matter how large you make, the tournament going to
- 33:32Speaker 1: be somebody who's gets their feelings hurt, and so maybe
- 33:37Speaker 1: maybe a couple of things. And I got to give
- 33:39Speaker 1: credit for this what Rick new Isisl said yesterday, and
- 33:43Speaker 1: one of our listeners, Nick Allen, tweeted it to me yesterday.
- 33:47Speaker 1: And I don't know if this stuff's out there already,
- 33:49Speaker 1: and I just haven't seen it. But for whatever reason,
- 33:51Speaker 1: those two comments sparked an idea in my head, and
- 33:54Speaker 1: so I'm going to run it past all of you
- 33:56Speaker 1: here this morning on Reckless at Breakfast. So what if
- 34:00Speaker 1: we did replace conference championship week with a play in
- 34:04Speaker 1: round of the tournament? Now we don't call it the tournament.
- 34:07Speaker 1: You know, I've said steadfastly, I want to play this
- 34:10Speaker 1: twelve team tournament out for a little while and see
- 34:14Speaker 1: what we need to do. Obviously some adjustments need to
- 34:16Speaker 1: be made. But if instead of a college football conference
- 34:21Speaker 1: championship game, we had a play in round, so we
- 34:26Speaker 1: had the same number of games, four games, and you
- 34:30Speaker 1: get to automatically punch your ticket, but we use it
- 34:34Speaker 1: on the teams that are all on the bubble. So,
- 34:37Speaker 1: in other words, the typical sixteen team format is one
- 34:41Speaker 1: versus sixteen, and two versus fifteen, and so on and
- 34:44Speaker 1: so forth. We're going to have a sixteen team field,
- 34:50Speaker 1: but only twelve technically get into the tournament, and the
- 34:54Speaker 1: top four teams still get their buys, and the next
- 34:58Speaker 1: four teams still get their home game. But we're going
- 35:01Speaker 1: to use that conference championship game to determine who's in
- 35:04Speaker 1: the tournament and who's out of the tournament. So now
- 35:07Speaker 1: let me explain that because it might be confusing. So
- 35:10Speaker 1: under this, the teams that would be in, we're gonna
- 35:12Speaker 1: go ahead and get the conference champions regular season, regular season.
- 35:17Speaker 1: We'll use all the tie breakers, whatever we got to do,
- 35:19Speaker 1: so that would crown Virginia as the ACC champion. They
- 35:22Speaker 1: won by a full game over everybody else. ACC champion
- 35:27Speaker 1: Texas Tech, they won the tiebreaker over BYU smacked them around.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Ohio State actually won the regular season over Indiana, I believe,
- 35:37Speaker 1: and then we all now know famously that Alabama won
- 35:40Speaker 1: the regular season. We would have never even had to
- 35:42Speaker 1: worry about Alabama's resume. We just given them an automatic
- 35:45Speaker 1: bid right then and there and not made them play
- 35:47Speaker 1: a conference championship game. So those four are automatically in.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Then we're going to use the committee to vote four
- 35:53Speaker 1: more automatically in. So these are the four at large
- 35:57Speaker 1: teams that don't have to play to get into the tournament.
- 36:01Speaker 1: And just using the College FOOTBA Playoff Committee rankings, that
- 36:05Speaker 1: would put Indiana as an automatic in, that would put
- 36:09Speaker 1: Georgia as an automatic in, that would put Oregon as
- 36:12Speaker 1: an automatic in, and that would put ole miss as
- 36:15Speaker 1: an automatic in. So they are the four wildcard teams
- 36:18Speaker 1: that the Committee is determined don't have to sing for
- 36:20Speaker 1: their supper. Those eight teams are in. So now our
- 36:24Speaker 1: play in week and again using the College Football Playoff
- 36:28Speaker 1: Committee's pairings and rankings, will have a best of five
- 36:32Speaker 1: championship games. So this guarantees a best of five team
- 36:36Speaker 1: and our twelve, but it also make guarantees that we
- 36:40Speaker 1: don't have to have two of them in that don't
- 36:43Speaker 1: deserve it. So we will have Tulane play James Madison.
- 36:48Speaker 1: They play each other, and the winner gets in the
- 36:51Speaker 1: tournament and the loser is out, and then we take
- 36:55Speaker 1: Then we're going to rank them all over again. The
- 36:58Speaker 1: other three games that will be played Texas, A and
- 37:02Speaker 1: m As. The one we'll take on Miami because we're
- 37:06Speaker 1: not gonna have conference teams play each other in this round.
- 37:11Speaker 1: And this way the SEC is satisfied this is their
- 37:14Speaker 1: chance to get seven teams in the tournament. We can
- 37:17Speaker 1: also prove that maybe the SEC isn't as good as
- 37:20Speaker 1: what they think they are. So we're gonna make sure
- 37:22Speaker 1: if we can avoid it. We're not gonna make conference
- 37:25Speaker 1: opponents face each other in the play in week. So
- 37:27Speaker 1: based off of their pairings, that would be number one
- 37:30Speaker 1: Texas A and m versus number five Miami, Number two
- 37:34Speaker 1: Oklahoma versus number four BYU and number three Notre Dame
- 37:38Speaker 1: versus number six Texas and let Vanderbilt and Utah complain
- 37:42Speaker 1: because they didn't get in. Okay, okay, So we play
- 37:45Speaker 1: those four games as play in games to the tournament.
- 37:49Speaker 1: They aren't even considered tournament teams. We're using that week
- 37:52Speaker 1: conference championship week. We've gotten rid of the conference championship games.
- 37:56Speaker 1: It's too confusing, it's too muddled, and we play four
- 37:59Speaker 1: play games to determine who gets to the next round
- 38:04Speaker 1: where the five through eight teams ranked are waiting at
- 38:11Speaker 1: home to play in round number one of our tournament.
- 38:16Speaker 1: So Tulane James Madison winner faces Oregon the five seed
- 38:20Speaker 1: in Eugene, Texas A, Texas A and m and Miami
- 38:23Speaker 1: winner plays eight Virginia at Virginia two Oklahoma BYU they
- 38:28Speaker 1: will play at Alabama the final week. Our seventh ranked team,
- 38:32Speaker 1: you don't get top four seed just because you won
- 38:34Speaker 1: your conference three Notre Dame six Texas, they'll take on
- 38:38Speaker 1: our six seed all miss and then those two teams,
- 38:41Speaker 1: those eight teams play four games the following week to
- 38:45Speaker 1: determine who advances to the next round, where the top
- 38:49Speaker 1: four ranked teams in America are waiting Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia,
- 38:53Speaker 1: and Texas Tech. So it's a sixteen team field, but
- 38:57Speaker 1: we really only acknowledge twelve teams make the tournament, and
- 39:01Speaker 1: the same four that got the bye get their same
- 39:04Speaker 1: advantage that they had before, and the next four still
- 39:07Speaker 1: get that home field advantage in their first game, and
- 39:10Speaker 1: then we can allow four more teams to not get
- 39:14Speaker 1: ranked by the committee, but to actually compete for the
- 39:17Speaker 1: last four spots in our twelve team tournament field. What
- 39:21Speaker 1: do we think of that?
- 39:22Speaker 2: I like it, and I don't mean to oversimplify it
- 39:25Speaker 2: because you just explained that very well.
- 39:27Speaker 1: That's a bait. To me.
- 39:28Speaker 2: It feels like a sixteen team tournament where the top
- 39:31Speaker 2: eight get buys. The top four get two buys right
- 39:34Speaker 2: where you get Yeah, so it's.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Basically the same thing. I like it, I like and that.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Yet, if that's a way where it still feels like
- 39:41Speaker 2: it's a twelve team tournament, to me, it's you just
- 39:44Speaker 2: give an opportunity to some people that it feels like
- 39:46Speaker 2: there's people, not just the fan basis. Just when I'm
- 39:49Speaker 2: looking at I don't care about USC or Utah, I
- 39:52Speaker 2: don't care about Vanderbilt one bit, but they do people
- 39:56Speaker 2: cheering for them are like, come on, I mean way,
- 39:59Speaker 2: maybe not as much as the big hooplaw about Notre
- 40:02Speaker 2: Dame because of that whole thing and how they kind
- 40:04Speaker 2: of got screwed by the committee, but it takes it
- 40:06Speaker 2: a little bit out of the politicized thing. Sure, there's
- 40:09Speaker 2: still gonna be some of the issues at the end
- 40:11Speaker 2: of the season. Somebody's gonna be on the outside of
- 40:13Speaker 2: the bubble. They didn't even get to planned to play anything.
- 40:15Speaker 2: But yes, to some degree with the little wrinkle in
- 40:18Speaker 2: there of James Madison Tulane. Unless you've went thirteen and
- 40:22Speaker 2: oh or twelve and oh and you've found yourself ranked
- 40:25Speaker 2: in the top ten, somewhere where you're automatically in one
- 40:29Speaker 2: of the if you're like they are this year, where
- 40:30Speaker 2: you're twentieth and twenty fifth or whatever. All right, we're
- 40:33Speaker 2: gonna give you guys a chance to play each other,
- 40:34Speaker 2: and whoever wins, we're gonna thrust you into that play
- 40:38Speaker 2: in tournament part of the whole thing. But yeah, I
- 40:42Speaker 2: like the idea of expanding it somewhat, but at a
- 40:45Speaker 2: controlled pace where it's not just you know, trying to
- 40:49Speaker 2: make it some march madness, but for football, that's absurd.
- 40:52Speaker 4: I like the idea of having those games replace the
- 40:53Speaker 4: conference championships. It seems to be much more productive, not.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Nearly as confusing. Right, how do I value.
- 40:59Speaker 4: Now getting in and losing? Yeah, you'd take you eliminate that.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Well, it's like how Hugh says, too, like the idea
- 41:06Speaker 2: of the whole season you play to where you hopefully
- 41:08Speaker 2: get a buye, and the conference championship week it's like, no, hey, Oregon,
- 41:12Speaker 2: you sit back and oh miss sit back. You guys
- 41:14Speaker 2: don't have to play in this thing. Well, these other
- 41:17Speaker 2: teams do, and they may or may not get punished
- 41:20Speaker 2: for it.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, have two different selection shows, you know, the
- 41:24Speaker 1: one that announces those that have made the play in
- 41:27Speaker 1: and the eight that don't have to play, uh and
- 41:30Speaker 1: are already going to be in the tournament. And then
- 41:33Speaker 1: once you play the games, you get have a second
- 41:35Speaker 1: selection show and then you reveal the matchups and how
- 41:38Speaker 1: you did rank the eight teams that were already in,
- 41:41Speaker 1: and that reveals who got the two buys. Maybe that's
- 41:45Speaker 1: the way to go with all of this it uh,
- 41:47Speaker 1: you know, And look, I'm not angry about what's happened.
- 41:51Speaker 1: I mean, we have a tournament now, and we knew
- 41:54Speaker 1: that there were gonna be some trial and err involved
- 41:56Speaker 1: in this, some experimentation that was going to take place.
- 41:58Speaker 1: I'm just happy we have a tournament. But every year
- 42:01Speaker 1: we should try to figure out ways to tweak it
- 42:03Speaker 1: and make it better, make it cleaner, and try to
- 42:05Speaker 1: take as much subjectivity out of it as we possibly can.
- 42:09Speaker 1: And maybe this is a better option than what we
- 42:11Speaker 1: have right now. Yeah, I think it is. I think
- 42:13Speaker 1: it's definitely better than what we have right now.
- 42:16Speaker 2: And yet I'm with you, we're way better that we're
- 42:18Speaker 2: right now where we are than just three years ago,
- 42:21Speaker 2: and three years ago was better than where we were
- 42:23Speaker 2: for the hundred years before that direction.
- 42:26Speaker 1: All right, coming up next. In case you were wondering,
- 42:29Speaker 1: we asked Rick new Isel point blank yesterday if he
- 42:31Speaker 1: is going to be the next head coach of the
- 42:33Speaker 1: Washington State Cougars. If you didn't hear it, will replace
- 42:36Speaker 1: some of it, and we will actually have time this
- 42:39Speaker 1: morning to react to his commentary. It's Chuck and Buck
- 42:42Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Yeah, sounds so weird,
- 42:46Speaker 1: sounds helpful on the Hall of Fame ballot, five years
- 42:52Speaker 1: removed from the National Football League, and yet so desperate
- 42:57Speaker 1: are they that they have signed him this week. Philip
- 43:00Speaker 1: Rivers has signed with the Indianapolis Colts on their practice squad.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Greg Bell has given this twenty four hours of thought,
- 43:06Speaker 1: and earlier this morning told us that he's feeling like
- 43:09Speaker 1: they're going to start Philip Rivers. I don't think it's
- 43:12Speaker 1: going to happen, but I do believe, especially if Riley
- 43:16Speaker 1: Leonard can't go because of injury. I mean, he's gonna
- 43:20Speaker 1: have to be activated. He's gonna have to be your backup.
- 43:23Speaker 1: I mean, so Brett Rippin gets off the practice squad,
- 43:25Speaker 1: he starts in the game, but now you're one injury away.
- 43:29Speaker 1: From Philip Rivers playing, so I think there's a chance
- 43:31Speaker 1: that he plays on Sunday, which is miraculous enough. But
- 43:35Speaker 1: it's hard for me to believe that he goes from
- 43:38Speaker 1: five years coaching high school football, no matter what good
- 43:41Speaker 1: of shape that he's in, getting activated or getting signed
- 43:45Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, getting to the practice field on a Wednesday,
- 43:49Speaker 1: and he's ready to face Mike McDonald's defense as a
- 43:52Speaker 1: starter on Sunday.
- 43:53Speaker 2: No chance, right, I mean, I don't think I think
- 43:57Speaker 2: it's no chance of him being successful in it. I
- 44:00Speaker 2: don't think there's no chance. I mean I think the
- 44:03Speaker 2: wane of Okay pros and cons our starter just went
- 44:07Speaker 2: out while we're in the middle of a downward spiral
- 44:10Speaker 2: as a team Torres Achilles. So he ringing Riley Leonard.
- 44:13Speaker 2: They probably feel okay about that, right, He's a young kid, Okay,
- 44:18Speaker 2: well see what he can do, and it wasn't all
- 44:20Speaker 2: that bad. But then he hurts his knee. If he's
- 44:23Speaker 2: healthy enough to go, that's who's going. If he's not.
- 44:27Speaker 2: I don't think it's far fetched to think that it's
- 44:30Speaker 2: that you go with Philip Rivers over Brett Rippon.
- 44:34Speaker 1: I because I think I get it.
- 44:37Speaker 2: I mean, it's because it's five years out, but it's
- 44:39Speaker 2: they they did a workout and they like the fact
- 44:42Speaker 2: that he can make the throws. He's obviously not incapable
- 44:46Speaker 2: of making the throws. I was reading an article talking about,
- 44:49Speaker 2: you know something that Greg ended up bringing up, but
- 44:51Speaker 2: I had read it yesterday about how familiar he is
- 44:55Speaker 2: with it. And it's not just because he runs it
- 44:57Speaker 2: in his high school. It's because he spent six years
- 45:00Speaker 2: with Shane Stikeen with the Chargers and one with the
- 45:04Speaker 2: one with the Colts, and so to me, it's he
- 45:07Speaker 2: understands what it is that they're supposed to do. That
- 45:11Speaker 2: to me is more he I'll bet you, even though
- 45:13Speaker 2: he hasn't been in an NFL locker room in five years,
- 45:16Speaker 2: he understands how this is supposed to be run better
- 45:19Speaker 2: than your your scout team quarterback does. Yeah, it's just
- 45:23Speaker 2: they also said he doesn't think They don't think he's
- 45:25Speaker 2: in shape for football, like the plane shape that you
- 45:28Speaker 2: have to be. Okay, so you can throw against air,
- 45:31Speaker 2: but how can you run around? And do you want
- 45:33Speaker 2: to put him at risk of doing it? That's where
- 45:36Speaker 2: it starts to weigh in. But to me, I mean,
- 45:39Speaker 2: I'm actually leaning more towards If Riley Leonard isn't ready
- 45:43Speaker 2: to go, I think your second string, your next guy
- 45:45Speaker 2: is probably Philiberts.
- 45:47Speaker 4: Well, they adjusted their practice schedule too. They now they're
- 45:50Speaker 4: practicing Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. They usually don't, apparently.
- 45:54Speaker 1: So it seems to me that the Seahawks have faced
- 45:59Speaker 1: a lot of backupquarterbacks this year. But Bucky and I
- 46:03Speaker 1: have talked off the air, it seems like it happens
- 46:05Speaker 1: a lot, not just this year, but year after year. Well,
- 46:09Speaker 1: I looked it up. I actually did a little bit
- 46:12Speaker 1: of digging on this, and it's not nearly as dramatic
- 46:15Speaker 1: as you would think, or that you and I thought.
- 46:19Speaker 1: I think this stems from that twenty nineteen season where
- 46:23Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, Teddy Bridgewater, Matt Schaub for Matt Ryan, Kyle
- 46:28Speaker 1: Allen we faced for the Carolina Panthers. In twenty nine.
- 46:31Speaker 1: It was just a list of them, and I think
- 46:33Speaker 1: maybe that has tainted our thoughts because it hasn't been
- 46:35Speaker 1: that dramatic. I'll just go back the last three years.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four, the only two Skyler Thompson in week
- 46:42Speaker 1: number three and oh by the way Ashley thinks we
- 46:44Speaker 1: lose to backup quarterbacks all the time. We don't. That's
- 46:47Speaker 1: also a little bit of a misnomer. Yeah, we did.
- 46:50Speaker 4: It did feel like we were for a while.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we won against Skyler Thompson. Boy he was terrible. Yeah,
- 46:56Speaker 1: he was really better. And then we won against Jimmy
- 46:58Speaker 1: Garoppolo and he didn't start because of injury, started because
- 47:02Speaker 1: he played the last game of the year because they
- 47:03Speaker 1: were saving Stafford for the playoffs.
- 47:05Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 47:06Speaker 1: And so we only faced two backup quarterbacks last year
- 47:10Speaker 1: and won them both. Twenty twenty three, only two PJ.
- 47:13Speaker 1: Walker in Week eight for the Cleveland Browns and Josh
- 47:16Speaker 1: Dobbs in Week seven for the Arizona Cardinals, won them both.
- 47:21Speaker 4: Well, the year we played Cole McCoy, that's the one
- 47:23Speaker 4: I'm thinking.
- 47:23Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty I think it was
- 47:25Speaker 1: like nineteen seventy four. And then in twenty twenty two,
- 47:30Speaker 1: just two again, Mike White of the New York Jets
- 47:33Speaker 1: and John Wolford of the Los Angeles Rams, and won
- 47:36Speaker 1: them both. So certainly I've had a pretty good record
- 47:39Speaker 1: in recent years against backup quarterbacks, but we haven't faced
- 47:43Speaker 1: nearly as many as what you and I thought that
- 47:46Speaker 1: they were facing until this year. There have been eighteen
- 47:52Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks that have started all thirteen games this year.
- 47:56Speaker 5: There have been.
- 47:57Speaker 1: Twenty that have started twelve or more, and there have
- 47:59Speaker 1: been twenty two that have started ten or more. So
- 48:02Speaker 1: that leaves just ten situations in which we would have
- 48:08Speaker 1: even been exposed, you know, mathematically, to having face day
- 48:12Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Now consider the Ford guy. Four teams that
- 48:15Speaker 1: have benched their quarterbacks, so they don't count in this,
- 48:19Speaker 1: you know, injury luck situation that we're describing. The New
- 48:22Speaker 1: York Giants, the New Orleans Saints, the Cleveland Browns, the
- 48:25Speaker 1: New York Jets, they just changed their quarterbacks. They didn't
- 48:28Speaker 1: have anything we'ld do with Russell having an injury, or
- 48:32Speaker 1: Justin Fields got called out by his owner that he
- 48:37Speaker 1: can't complete a pass. So those have just been some benching.
- 48:40Speaker 1: So now that just leaves one, two, three, four, five, six,
- 48:43Speaker 1: seven seven situations. And I say seven because there's one
- 48:50Speaker 1: that takes the math a little bit over. But seven
- 48:53Speaker 1: injury situations out there that NFL teams have experienced. The
- 48:57Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Atlanta Falcons, the Washington Commanders,
- 49:05Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, the San Francisco forty nine Ers, and
- 49:09Speaker 1: now the seventh and now the math comes out, Daniel Jones.
- 49:14Speaker 1: The Seahawks have faced five of those teams this year.
- 49:18Speaker 1: Five of those quarterbacks backup quarterbacks this year, so there
- 49:23Speaker 1: have been seven injured quarterback situations more than just a
- 49:28Speaker 1: week or two in the National Football League, and the
- 49:31Speaker 1: Seahawks have managed to face five of those teams while
- 49:35Speaker 1: their quarterback was out. The Cardinals, the Falcons, the Vikings.
- 49:40Speaker 1: Now Jade Daniels did start and we were dominating them.
- 49:45Speaker 1: We probably shouldn't count that one because we were dominating
- 49:47Speaker 1: them even with Jaden Daniels, and then he got injured
- 49:50Speaker 1: during the game. But now the Indianapolis Colt, So let's
- 49:52Speaker 1: throw Jade Daniels out. But we faced four of the
- 49:55Speaker 1: teams that have had injury situations this year in the
- 49:59Speaker 1: National Football we've got to face their backup quarterback. So
- 50:02Speaker 1: even though historically it's not as dramatic as what you
- 50:07Speaker 1: and I thought in our heads, this year it certainly
- 50:10Speaker 1: has been dramatic how often the Seahawks have locked out,
- 50:14Speaker 1: if you want to call it that, and gotten to
- 50:16Speaker 1: face the backup quarterback as opposed to the starter, and
- 50:19Speaker 1: it's huge. I mean if you think about all of
- 50:22Speaker 1: a sudden, we want all of them.
- 50:23Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if you think, I mean, it is what
- 50:25Speaker 2: it is, right, I mean there's other teams that end
- 50:28Speaker 2: up getting you know, it's not as important as the quarterback.
- 50:32Speaker 2: I understand that. But if you think losing your your
- 50:35Speaker 2: your lockdown corner the week before you have to go
- 50:39Speaker 2: against you know, a high, high flying offense, it has
- 50:43Speaker 2: a great you know receiver out there that can cost
- 50:47Speaker 2: you a week. And yet to me, I mean obviously
- 50:50Speaker 2: quarterback being the most important position is crazy.
- 50:52Speaker 1: And we did lose our lockdown corner for a couple
- 50:54Speaker 1: of weeks.
- 50:55Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you'd likely had you know enough the backup,
- 50:58Speaker 2: next man up type thing. Quarterbacks bigger drop off typically. Sure,
- 51:02Speaker 2: I think that that's we've talked about it for a
- 51:04Speaker 2: couple of years. When injuries happen. Of boy, how important
- 51:08Speaker 2: should people you know have as their backup guy? I
- 51:11Speaker 2: mean the fact that having you know, a Jimmy Garoppolo
- 51:14Speaker 2: is your backup versus having a Riley Leonard might be
- 51:17Speaker 2: a benefit to to some of these teams that choose
- 51:20Speaker 2: to go the younger route. So, but I think the
- 51:22Speaker 2: idea of when one of the big tie breakers obviously
- 51:26Speaker 2: you got your division record and your head to head record,
- 51:29Speaker 2: but it's not very far down that list of who
- 51:31Speaker 2: you played, like your record against some common opponents.
- 51:35Speaker 1: And if you get to play a.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Team that your you know, your division foe had to
- 51:40Speaker 2: play when they were fully healthy at the quarterback position,
- 51:42Speaker 2: you get to go against Max Brosner, that's a that's
- 51:46Speaker 2: a big advantage. And now they took advantage of it
- 51:49Speaker 2: and they won whatever twenty six to zero. So I
- 51:52Speaker 2: don't know for sure if JJ McCarthy would have made
- 51:54Speaker 2: a hill of beans worth a difference. But there's there's
- 51:56Speaker 2: some times that some teams beat San Francisco when it
- 51:59Speaker 2: was rock Party out there.
- 52:01Speaker 1: We did face brock Party. Yep. Yeah, that's the one
- 52:03Speaker 1: you did have to Yeah, we did have to do that.
- 52:05Speaker 1: And we didn't want to face Cincinnati without Joe Burrow
- 52:08Speaker 1: but everybody else, Yeah, we got to face them, yeah,
- 52:11Speaker 1: and we want them all. So I mean, look, I
- 52:14Speaker 1: think the Seahawks are very good. I don't think the
- 52:17Speaker 1: ten and three record is because they faced a slew
- 52:21Speaker 1: of backup quarterbacks. But if you were wondering, yeah, you know,
- 52:26Speaker 1: if you win this week against the Indianapolis Colts, and
- 52:29Speaker 1: I'm taking jayd and Daniels out of this equation because
- 52:31Speaker 1: we were already dominating them. That's eleven wins, and four
- 52:35Speaker 1: of them against backup quarterbacks. Twenty five percent of your
- 52:38Speaker 1: wins this year have been against backup quarterbacks. And well,
- 52:42Speaker 1: actually more than that, over forty percent of your wins
- 52:45Speaker 1: have been against backup quarterbacks so far this season. And
- 52:49Speaker 1: even though I didn't do the math to the extent
- 52:51Speaker 1: to find out how much everybody else in the National
- 52:54Speaker 1: Football League has faced backup quarterbacks, but my guess is
- 52:58Speaker 1: that did give us a little bit of a advantage
- 53:00Speaker 1: this year.
- 53:01Speaker 2: Well just look at the I mean, JJ McCarthy don't
- 53:04Speaker 2: think is the world beater necessarily, but the jury is
- 53:06Speaker 2: still out on how great he is. You get his
- 53:08Speaker 2: backup and they come in here, you beat him twenty
- 53:10Speaker 2: six to zero. He comes back to the game last
- 53:12Speaker 2: week and they beat the Commanders. Now they're not good team,
- 53:16Speaker 2: thirty one to zero. Right there, they shored zero against you,
- 53:20Speaker 2: and most credit goes to the Seattle defense. The next
- 53:23Speaker 2: week they go against a lesser team, but they get
- 53:26Speaker 2: the quarterback back and they win thirty one to zero.
- 53:28Speaker 2: I mean it's just that is the the night and
- 53:31Speaker 2: day difference between that team. Even though I understand the
- 53:34Speaker 2: difference between Seattle's defense and Washington Commander's defense, it still
- 53:38Speaker 2: is to not be able to score versus score thirty
- 53:42Speaker 2: one the next week, different different ballgame when you get
- 53:44Speaker 2: your starter out there.
- 53:45Speaker 1: We across some breaks for sure. Not going to apologize.
- 53:48Speaker 1: Don't feel bad now we're ten and three. Yeah, we
- 53:51Speaker 1: take on all coms. You can only win whoever. You
- 53:53Speaker 1: can only beat whoever is out on the field in
- 53:55Speaker 1: front of you. Yeah, you can't have control over that.
- 53:57Speaker 2: That ain't discounted that ten and three is a legit
- 53:59Speaker 2: ten and three, But still facts are facts.
- 54:03Speaker 1: Seahawks take on all comers, that's right. It's not our
- 54:06Speaker 1: fault that the starting quarterbacks are scared of us. Yeah,
- 54:13Speaker 1: bring it, take it all right. Coming up next is
- 54:18Speaker 1: one famous donor to nil. Done with the process and
- 54:23Speaker 1: will others follow? We'll discuss the next Sports Radio ninety
- 54:26Speaker 1: three point three kJ R F M kill Ashley and
- 54:35Speaker 1: I have been discussing for a while, at what point
- 54:37Speaker 1: are all of these people that are so excited about
- 54:40Speaker 1: giving money to eighteen year olds who may or may
- 54:43Speaker 1: not stay at their school forever going to get tired
- 54:46Speaker 1: of doing it. Well, guess what. One guy has reached
- 54:49Speaker 1: the boiling point after one attempt at giving money to
- 54:54Speaker 1: a player to come to his alma mater and it
- 54:58Speaker 1: not working out. Troy Aikman is.
- 55:00Speaker 7: I think there's got to be some leadership at the
- 55:03Speaker 7: very top that kind of cleans all of this up,
- 55:07Speaker 7: and starting with players that accept money, there's got to
- 55:11Speaker 7: be some accountability and responsibility on their behalf to have
- 55:15Speaker 7: to stick with a program. I gave money to a kid.
- 55:18Speaker 7: I won't mention who I've done it one time. UCLA
- 55:22Speaker 7: never met the young man. He was their year. He
- 55:24Speaker 7: left after the year. I wrote a sizable check and
- 55:28Speaker 7: he went to another school. I didn't even get so
- 55:31Speaker 7: much as a thank you note, you know. So it's
- 55:34Speaker 7: one of those deals to where I'm done with nil.
- 55:36Speaker 7: I mean, I want to see UCLA be successful, but
- 55:39Speaker 7: I'm done with them.
- 55:40Speaker 1: And I think any reasonable person is going to draw
- 55:43Speaker 1: this conclusion when there are no guarantees that their investment
- 55:47Speaker 1: will stick around or even be grateful for the money
- 55:51Speaker 1: that they gave them. The problem I see is that
- 55:56Speaker 1: there's so much silly money in the world right now
- 55:58Speaker 1: that the next college football powers are just going to
- 56:01Speaker 1: be the people who have a lums that have so
- 56:03Speaker 1: much money. I mean, Troy Aikman's got a lot of money,
- 56:06Speaker 1: but I would imagine a million dollar check to Troy
- 56:09Speaker 1: Aigman's like, oh boy, I wish I had that back.
- 56:11Speaker 1: There are some people that have so much money. What's
- 56:13Speaker 1: a million dollars to me?
- 56:15Speaker 5: Right?
- 56:15Speaker 1: And if they take hold, I mean right now, Lane
- 56:19Speaker 1: Kiffin's trying to get to LSU and Kaitlin de Moore
- 56:22Speaker 1: had to get to Alabama. Are we sure in this
- 56:25Speaker 1: new era that those are going to be the powers
- 56:28Speaker 1: of the future? Because Texas Tech and Indiana turned things
- 56:32Speaker 1: around in one season, one off season of transfer portal recruiting, right,
- 56:39Speaker 1: And so are we sure that the powers that people
- 56:43Speaker 1: are trying to get to are going to be the powers?
- 56:46Speaker 1: Because I have a feeling that unless things radically change,
- 56:50Speaker 1: the powers are going to be the people who have
- 56:51Speaker 1: alums who have the silliest amounts of money. Yeah, and
- 56:54Speaker 1: you're right.
- 56:55Speaker 2: And a former NFL quarterback back in the day, I
- 56:58Speaker 2: mean he wouldn't making anything like what they make nowadays.
- 57:00Speaker 2: But a guy back in the day doesn't compete with
- 57:04Speaker 2: like an oil money guy, an oil money or a
- 57:07Speaker 2: Bezos a town slash state full of oil money guys, right,
- 57:11Speaker 2: I mean imagine, I mean Alabama can't compete with Texas Tech.
- 57:15Speaker 2: They can't compete with Lubbock, Texas in terms of you
- 57:17Speaker 2: know how many billionaires that they have in the state.
- 57:21Speaker 1: Imagine getting a group of the billionaires together like.
- 57:25Speaker 2: Lead boys being they they know what they're playing with, right,
- 57:28Speaker 2: and they they can put together.
- 57:31Speaker 1: Yetmu is smu the future power is San Jose State.
- 57:35Speaker 1: I mean, that's the home of the most multi millionaires
- 57:38Speaker 1: in America.
- 57:40Speaker 4: Even that people though with the bajillions of dollars, didn't
- 57:43Speaker 4: get there because they spent their money, you know, stupidly,
- 57:46Speaker 4: right they So I think if they're not seeing a
- 57:48Speaker 4: return on their investment and those players still continue to leave,
- 57:51Speaker 4: they're going to eventually be like, well, this is what's
- 57:52Speaker 4: this doing for me?
- 57:55Speaker 1: I think so. But those Texas Tech oil people have
- 57:59Speaker 1: seen an immediate return on their investment. They're now in
- 58:02Speaker 1: the college football Playoff. They got one of the top
- 58:05Speaker 1: four teams by BYU right now has one of the
- 58:10Speaker 1: top football teams and basketball teams in the country. And
- 58:15Speaker 1: there's a reason for it. Church wants to win. Church
- 58:19Speaker 1: wants to win bad. Those Mormons are competitive, and they are.
- 58:25Speaker 1: They went out and got the number one high school
- 58:28Speaker 1: recruit in America to come to BYU, and that kid's
- 58:31Speaker 1: not Mormon.
- 58:32Speaker 2: Right, and just jumped into the whole frame too. Utah
- 58:36Speaker 2: just hired some crazy like a financial firm to take
- 58:40Speaker 2: over everything that is back, everything that is marketable in
- 58:46Speaker 2: the in the whole thing. I mean, so the entire
- 58:48Speaker 2: thing is going to be run by a firm now.
- 58:51Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know crazy. They've introduced some restrictions on
- 58:54Speaker 1: what you can spend and so we'll see if that
- 58:57Speaker 1: takes hold in the future years and maybe it does
- 58:59Speaker 1: balance things out, and maybe it doesn't turn into the
- 59:01Speaker 1: world that I'm describing for you. But certainly, any right
- 59:08Speaker 1: minded thinking person, and I give Troy Aikman credit for
- 59:12Speaker 1: being one of those, is writing a check for half
- 59:15Speaker 1: a million dollars whatever the case may be, and watches
- 59:19Speaker 1: the kid leave and go join another program one year later,
- 59:22Speaker 1: and he got one win out of him, Yeah, two
- 59:24Speaker 1: wins out of him. Nobody's going to continue that habit.
- 59:28Speaker 3: Well.
- 59:28Speaker 4: And first they tried to get the fans to take
- 59:30Speaker 4: care of it, all right.
- 59:31Speaker 1: And I don't want that to happen any well.
- 59:33Speaker 4: And it didn't work. So then they did this and this.
- 59:35Speaker 4: I just don't see it. None of its sustainable.
- 59:37Speaker 1: Don't take your kid's lunch money and put it toward
- 59:41Speaker 1: one college player, please, Yeah, you know, gamble it like
- 59:45Speaker 1: normal people do that either. He was kidding, all right.
- 59:51Speaker 1: Coming up next, it's Humpday, and normally we spend Humpday
- 59:54Speaker 1: sizing up the Seahawks next opponent. But the only topic,
- 59:57Speaker 1: it seems, is Philip Rivers. So we're gonna next segment
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: about the Colts and not about Philip Rivers. Sports Radio
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ r F M. All right,
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: chuck out, Bucking Jacobson, Ashley Ryan with you on this
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: hum day, joining us now on the program to talk
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: some hockey, that all ice hockey. It is our friend
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: al Kiniski, color analyst for yours Seattle Cracking, struggling, Seattle
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: cracking right now. Six straight losses, Al what gives yeah.
- 1:00:39Speaker 8: Bit of a rough patch lately for the kracking and
- 1:00:42Speaker 8: they're trying to dig their way out of it, but
- 1:00:43Speaker 8: the schedule is not offering them any easy games as
- 1:00:47Speaker 8: of late, and tonight they've got the LA Kings in town,
- 1:00:50Speaker 8: and you know you're gonna see two teams that play
- 1:00:53Speaker 8: a very similar game. It's almost like playing yourself in
- 1:00:55Speaker 8: the mirror. That LA plays a very defensive, structured game
- 1:00:59Speaker 8: two point four eight goals against average excuse me, goals
- 1:01:03Speaker 8: four average, but under three goals against. So I expect
- 1:01:06Speaker 8: it to be a low scoring game if the Cracking
- 1:01:09Speaker 8: can stay out of the penalty box. If they can't,
- 1:01:11Speaker 8: it could go sideways with you.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: I hear you on the idea of how they look
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: similar and yet they're right now kind of heading in
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: two different directions at least if I mean they're not
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: on some six game winning streak, like a six game
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: losing streak, but they've started to score the last couple
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: of games that they've had out there, And so what
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: is it going to take. Is it just staying out
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: of the box, or what is it going to take
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: to kind of give us the boost offensively to keep
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: up If they do end up putting you know, two
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: or three goals in the net, well.
- 1:01:41Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a couple of things, and
- 1:01:43Speaker 8: it sounds pretty straightforward, But the crackn have to find
- 1:01:46Speaker 8: some success on their power play. They've got to stay
- 1:01:50Speaker 8: on the box on their own and not give LA
- 1:01:51Speaker 8: any power play opportunities, or at least limit them like
- 1:01:54Speaker 8: they did last game, and then obviously kill them off.
- 1:01:57Speaker 8: But if they can get one on their power play,
- 1:01:59Speaker 8: limit the power plays for LA, and then play a
- 1:02:03Speaker 8: better version of that defensive structure, then they'll win the
- 1:02:07Speaker 8: game if they If they don't, and if they go
- 1:02:09Speaker 8: into penalty box too many times, I think LA will
- 1:02:11Speaker 8: hurt them on their power play and it will just
- 1:02:14Speaker 8: become a who can score more goals And I don't
- 1:02:17Speaker 8: think the crack and want to get into that game.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: I don't know how similar the psychology of hockey versus baseball,
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: but a baseball player can be as a slump. They
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: can convince themselves they're not going to get out of
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: a slump, and then all of a sudden they get
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: a blue pit and they're next at bat, They're off
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: and running. So does that happen in hockey? Like you
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: get a power play goal, it was your only goal
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: against the Wild, but at least you got one finally,
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: first time in a long time. Can that just psychologically
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: unlock things or is there something wrong with our power play?
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: Well?
- 1:02:51Speaker 8: I think Chuck's psychologically maybe, But I also think momentum
- 1:02:54Speaker 8: is a powerful, powerful thing in sports that you know,
- 1:02:57Speaker 8: you get on a bit of a winning that's momentum.
- 1:03:01Speaker 8: You get on a personal goalscoring streak, that's momentum. I
- 1:03:04Speaker 8: think last game the krack and go in perfect on
- 1:03:06Speaker 8: their penalty kill, even though their penalty kills at the
- 1:03:08Speaker 8: bottom of the league right now, that could be momentum.
- 1:03:11Speaker 8: Come into tonight and I think they've made some adjustments
- 1:03:14Speaker 8: in that particular area that the penalty kill that they'll
- 1:03:16Speaker 8: continue to use today and tonight and tonight's game and
- 1:03:20Speaker 8: try and have the same outcome. Obviously, Stan out of
- 1:03:23Speaker 8: the box works as well, but my expectations are gonna
- 1:03:26Speaker 8: have to kill off a couple of penalties and if
- 1:03:28Speaker 8: they use the same structure they did last game, I
- 1:03:30Speaker 8: think that can generate momentum. So I think it's psychological,
- 1:03:34Speaker 8: but I think it's also momentum that can drive a
- 1:03:36Speaker 8: team forward into winning streaks.
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: You know, when Lane Lambert was hired, we joked around
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: because he's got the you know, the widow's peak, like
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: he's got the hair of Dracula, so to speak.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I don't have hair. I most certainly don't
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: have a widow's peak.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: I wish, but he just seems like a dude that
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: has that kind of I can get kind of gruff
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: with my team if needed.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: Have you heard anything?
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: Have you been standing outside the locker room and heard
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: him lay into him a little bit about going out
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: there and you know, being tougher and stopping this skid.
- 1:04:11Speaker 5: I have not heard.
- 1:04:12Speaker 8: Any garbage cans thrown around the red I have not
- 1:04:15Speaker 8: heard it. I have not heard anything break. But I
- 1:04:18Speaker 8: will tell you one thing about Lane Lambert is he's consistent.
- 1:04:21Speaker 8: He's going to be intense on the ice, He's going
- 1:04:24Speaker 8: to be intense when he talks with you. He's going
- 1:04:25Speaker 8: to be intense in the locker room. And I think
- 1:04:27Speaker 8: he expects that intensity to transfer over to your game.
- 1:04:31Speaker 8: And intensity usually means prepping properly, playing every shift properly,
- 1:04:36Speaker 8: you know, taking accountability when you do something wrong. And
- 1:04:40Speaker 8: I think he pushes that hard. And yeah, he barks
- 1:04:42Speaker 8: in practice, you know, I see him bark a lot
- 1:04:46Speaker 8: more than I see him laugh. But I also think
- 1:04:48Speaker 8: that he's a professional and that's what he's pushing his
- 1:04:51Speaker 8: guys to be is intense hockey players. And you know,
- 1:04:55Speaker 8: it's certainly shown up with the best start in franchise history.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: I really did say something though afterwards. Was it time
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: for that? Was it long overdue? Was he premature with
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: it as the role of captain to Jordan Aberley picked
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: the right time to kind of throw it out there
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: that we got to be better?
- 1:05:15Speaker 8: No, I think he actually absolutely picked the right time.
- 1:05:17Speaker 8: Players hate it when you when you go on these
- 1:05:18Speaker 8: sumps like this, especially after a great start, and I
- 1:05:22Speaker 8: think it was absolutely the right time to, you know,
- 1:05:25Speaker 8: call out not a player, but call out his team
- 1:05:28Speaker 8: included himself, to say we need more. We need more
- 1:05:31Speaker 8: from everybody, and look at your own game individually. What
- 1:05:35Speaker 8: could I do better? What could I do more of?
- 1:05:37Speaker 8: How could I prepare better? How can I push harder?
- 1:05:40Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:05:40Speaker 8: How can I defend better? And I think that that's
- 1:05:43Speaker 8: what a captain does, is it's a message to the
- 1:05:46Speaker 8: entire team of we need more. And I look forward
- 1:05:49Speaker 8: to seeing how that message transfers into tonight's game.
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously need to score more, and they probably just
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: need to try getting some more pucks on net.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: I mean, there's time and more, let's try to win more.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: Well, okay, so let's score more and then hopefully that
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: turns into win more. But in order to do both
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: those things, they need to shoot more. Is there anyone
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: in particular that you're watching that you think is just
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: being too passive when there's opportunities in the offensive end.
- 1:06:17Speaker 8: I think it's different in every game.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: Buck.
- 1:06:19Speaker 8: I think that you know, from our comfy, warm, two
- 1:06:23Speaker 8: hundred foot spot above the rink, it's easy to see
- 1:06:26Speaker 8: that for us. I don't know if the players always
- 1:06:29Speaker 8: see it. I love a seam pass. The cracking have
- 1:06:32Speaker 8: been burned on seam passes in a few of these losses.
- 1:06:36Speaker 8: There's a time and a place for that. You often
- 1:06:38Speaker 8: see them the power play. But I think that when
- 1:06:41Speaker 8: you've got the puck anywhere in the slot area from
- 1:06:43Speaker 8: the top of the circles, in your very first, second,
- 1:06:46Speaker 8: and third thought should be shooting the puck because although
- 1:06:50Speaker 8: you might not score, Let's let's be honest, most of
- 1:06:52Speaker 8: the time you don't the NHL. You might not score,
- 1:06:56Speaker 8: you're creating a scored opportunity, not just for yourself, but
- 1:06:59Speaker 8: for the guys that are going to the net. Those
- 1:07:01Speaker 8: guys that are going to net have their sticks out.
- 1:07:03Speaker 8: They're looking for a deflection, they're looking for a rebound,
- 1:07:05Speaker 8: they're looking for a tapping. And if you put the
- 1:07:08Speaker 8: puck on net and a goalie gives up a bad rebound,
- 1:07:11Speaker 8: then it does turn into a scoring opptato or a goal.
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: So I want to.
- 1:07:15Speaker 8: See guys thinking shot all the time, and I think
- 1:07:17Speaker 8: that they've been emphasizing that a lot more over the
- 1:07:20Speaker 8: last few games. Listen, So the last six have been losses,
- 1:07:24Speaker 8: but the last couple have been one goal losses. The
- 1:07:27Speaker 8: cracking have been in these games. I think it's just
- 1:07:29Speaker 8: tweaking a couple of things to get them over the
- 1:07:33Speaker 8: top here tonight.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: All right, Well, tell us about the King's pretty good
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: team that we're facing. You've already alluded to that. Give
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: me something specific about what the Kraken got to take
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: away from them this evening.
- 1:07:44Speaker 8: Well, they're a team that's, you know, like I said,
- 1:07:47Speaker 8: they don't give up a.
- 1:07:48Speaker 5: Lot of goals.
- 1:07:49Speaker 8: They've got great goaltending in Darcy Kemper, Anton Forsbergers are
- 1:07:53Speaker 8: backed up.
- 1:07:53Speaker 5: He's great as well. Hasn't played quite as much about a.
- 1:07:56Speaker 8: Third of the games. But they're a team that's not
- 1:07:59Speaker 8: gonna get you a lot of scoring opportunities. So see above,
- 1:08:02Speaker 8: you got to shoot the puck. I think that you
- 1:08:05Speaker 8: know they're they're a team that has a great power
- 1:08:07Speaker 8: play it's in the eighty percent mark. So if you
- 1:08:10Speaker 8: give them too many power play opportunities, they're going to
- 1:08:12Speaker 8: hurt you.
- 1:08:13Speaker 5: So it's a.
- 1:08:13Speaker 8: Pretty simple game plan. If I'm drying it up, stay
- 1:08:16Speaker 8: out of the box, put put everything on that, and
- 1:08:19Speaker 8: play your defensive structure that you've been playing so well
- 1:08:22Speaker 8: for the first twenty eight games.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: Need to win out. I don't know have you and
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: ever tried to shake it up a little bit, you know,
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: do your hair differently or a mustache so must yeah,
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: maybe you know, wear fancy shoes. I don't know, have
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: you tried anything to try to get it going.
- 1:08:36Speaker 8: I mean, we tried to put our headsets on backwards,
- 1:08:39Speaker 8: but engineer Terry Ryan didn't like that. So you know,
- 1:08:42Speaker 8: we're we we'd wear each other's shoes, but we both
- 1:08:45Speaker 8: wear a size fifteen. That's not going to work either.
- 1:08:47Speaker 8: We'll come up with something for tonight.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Engineers don't care about winning, do they? I don't care
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: about Yeah for the sound, Skinny, now he's not. Just
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: tell him you don't worry about it, Skinny Terry of
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: all the sports though he might care about winning, though
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: it might be hockey. Knowing Terry, you might with it. Yeah,
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: all right, Well get us a win tonight. Al you
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: got it boys?
- 1:09:09Speaker 5: All right?
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