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Patriots Unfiltered 1/26: One Trade NE Must Make, Herald Report on Patriots Coaching Drama, Coaches Head to Shrine Bowl / Senior Bowl · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: of Vigion welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Paul is in a
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  Speaker 1: particularly foul mood today. A lot of the reason why
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  Speaker 1: is because the Bills lost and a lot of Pats
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  Speaker 1: fans are gleeful. Hates it when Patriots fans are happy,
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  Speaker 1: or will they start tearing things down? Now, what is
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  Speaker 1: you tearing down? You picked the guy that ran the
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  Speaker 1: fastest forty like, that's the homework that you did. Was
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  Speaker 1: found a way almost, Yeah, We found to say, aduced
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  Speaker 1: this would be an appropriate time for micosows sneaky negativity
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  Speaker 1: in the game. We found a way to almost have
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  Speaker 1: a chance, yeah, to be competitive. And they thought they
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  Speaker 1: were going to be the Patriots. They're never going to
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  Speaker 1: be there. This was their window bold statement there. They're
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  Speaker 1: never going to go to the super Bowl nine times
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  Speaker 1: in twenty years. If I do listen, I listen to
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  Speaker 1: what they say. You know, and to me, you know
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  Speaker 1: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Gillette Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, big crew of content people for us left
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  Speaker 1: this morning early this morning, six thirty wheels up on
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  Speaker 1: their way to Las Vegas to get ready for the
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  Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl. So coming up, we'll have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: content coming from there. Uh, starting when tomorrow, I guess yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Pice yea, yeah, tomorrow with the a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a dead day, but yeah, but I'm sure Evan and
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  Speaker 1: Alex should getting after it in Vegas. Alex has never
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  Speaker 1: out there. Catch twenty two twins are out there. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a catch twenty twosome coming on twosome. Sure, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, but we're here they do in Vegas. Juice
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  Speaker 1: is here, Alex is here, Paul's here, um here, that's
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Oh, you're the best. Um, so it's official. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, it's official. The Patriots finally made the announcement
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  Speaker 1: official this morning. Uh so yeah, I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: Siri is working now, but um yeah, anyway, uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's that's official. And uh couple coupled with that
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  Speaker 1: announcement was a story in The Herald today Karen Gregian
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  Speaker 1: and uh Andrew Callahan. Yeah, I believe um nothing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about it. Nothing really that we didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: But it is interesting to see the direct quotes attributing
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  Speaker 1: attributed it to some of the things that we thought
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  Speaker 1: were happening. And also I think is interesting how quickly
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  Speaker 1: it came out after the fact. You know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times the stuff, you know, takes a month or
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  Speaker 1: so and then then it comes out. You know, Bob
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  Speaker 1: Holu were writing about the Red Sox and the quote
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  Speaker 1: you know, um but this is not anymore. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: but this was pretty quick. Yeah. Um so people tell
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  Speaker 1: to me, it tells me that people couldn't wait to unload. Yeah. See,
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  Speaker 1: I think Alex has it could be and they were
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  Speaker 1: holding it, you think, Well, I think there was an
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  Speaker 1: element of you know, like Kendrick Bourne talking about we
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  Speaker 1: got to change up our schemes. Man that maybe people
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  Speaker 1: had no let's let's talk about this, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: you know one of the writers says, you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: you know, when this is over, you know, let's you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't I can't get into it any further now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when the season's over, we'll talk about that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, the seeds were planted, I think,
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  Speaker 1: yeah throughout the year, and credit to Andrew and Karen
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  Speaker 1: because they were teed up, ready to go, knew what
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to get in. I mean, it's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: everywhere right now. It just never I never really wanted
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  Speaker 1: to believe it was as bad as we kind of
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  Speaker 1: thought it potentially could be based on everything, but it's
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  Speaker 1: It was one of the things that stood out to me.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a quote. It was a description about how
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  Speaker 1: everything was a scramble, a mad scramble to get things done,
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  Speaker 1: which is completely one hundred and eighty degree is the
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  Speaker 1: way that place is operated for the last twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: You know, part of their success was the continuity. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you had the the succession plans, you had the people
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  Speaker 1: in place, so every year it was a new year,
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  Speaker 1: but the same system. And now I'm not just talking
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  Speaker 1: about offense. I'm talking about everything, how everything operated, from
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  Speaker 1: the scouting to on up, and that gave you an
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  Speaker 1: advantage every season. And to hear that this year was
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  Speaker 1: a mad scramble told me that. You know, losing Josh
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  Speaker 1: McDaniels was a huge deal, like so much gut done.
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  Speaker 1: Let rephrase that, so much just got done. And this
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  Speaker 1: year it wasn't getting done. And I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it was because he was gone, and you had
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  Speaker 1: two guys in high positions on the offense that had
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  Speaker 1: never done it before, and so it was all new
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  Speaker 1: for them too. And there's a lot of things and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about this story and some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that is in it, But my biggest takeaway
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  Speaker 1: from Bill is fine. I mean, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: pretty obvious that putting, as Fred said, putting the defensive
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  Speaker 1: guy in charge of the offense was a miscalculation. It
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  Speaker 1: didn't work. But I think the thing that Bill misjudged
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  Speaker 1: the most was how much Josh McDaniels did. Yes exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not just about well you can get
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  Speaker 1: you can get a coach to do. Sometimes you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like that institutional knowledge kind of thing when you
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  Speaker 1: have a guy who has been in a role, you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's say someone who's a co host on a podcast
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  Speaker 1: for twenty three some odd years. There's just a kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing. There were just kind of things that you
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  Speaker 1: know that a new guy comes in and he might have, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all the same kind of knowledge of all
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  Speaker 1: the you know, all the stuff going on, but it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's just different. And I think with Josh McDaniels,
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  Speaker 1: I think the underestimation on Bill's part of just how
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  Speaker 1: much he didn't have to worry about Offen exactly. How
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  Speaker 1: surprising is that though, I just I mean that's and
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  Speaker 1: that my takeaway of everything of just you know, how
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  Speaker 1: could how could Bill miscalculate this badly at this point,
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  Speaker 1: especially where I feel he's in his seventies, Every season
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  Speaker 1: is so valuable, you know, it's it's getting down to
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  Speaker 1: the last handful of seasons at best. How could you
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  Speaker 1: make this big of it? Well, you know, you take
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  Speaker 1: things for granted, and you know, you I'm sure like
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and two thousand and one, Bill was
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  Speaker 1: like every you know, every detail he was involved in
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  Speaker 1: and as you go along, you don't have to be
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  Speaker 1: anymore and you kind of lose track of it. And
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  Speaker 1: Josh was in charge of every little detail and then
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  Speaker 1: he leaves, and like Paul said, maybe he didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: how much he actually did, and but you found out quick,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then it was too late. Along those
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  Speaker 1: same lines, I thought it was really the most eye
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  Speaker 1: opening thing for me was it wasn't even just players questioning.
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  Speaker 1: It was other coaches who say, whether it be Judge
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  Speaker 1: or Patricia, I forget who it was about. In this
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  Speaker 1: particular part would come in try to teach something, and
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  Speaker 1: then that position coach would be like correcting everything. Judge
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  Speaker 1: was dabbling in some other stuff too, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: he comes out looking like he didn't, you know, have
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  Speaker 1: a great well. Yeah, all season it was Patricia, Patricia, Patricia,
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  Speaker 1: but in this article Judge was, you know, having problems too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was mostly Judge in this story. Yeah. The other
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  Speaker 1: thing I just I wanted to highlight because it was
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  Speaker 1: the exact point I made on Tuesday's show, kind of speculating.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll read the quote. A lot of guys
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  Speaker 1: would ask, well, what's going to happen if the defense
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  Speaker 1: does this, and you would see they didn't really they
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  Speaker 1: hadn't really accounted for that yet, one source said. And
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  Speaker 1: they'd say, well, we'll get to that when we get
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  Speaker 1: to that. That type of attitude got us in trouble,
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  Speaker 1: is exactly, you know what. That's what it looked like. Yeah, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they just they had no counterpunches and and
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  Speaker 1: and we said it so many times during the season.
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  Speaker 1: It just felt like they were kind of pulling plays
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  Speaker 1: out of a hat and nothing was sequenced, nothing worked
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  Speaker 1: off of each other, and you know, just everything you
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  Speaker 1: kind of felt or thought and this is and it's
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  Speaker 1: everything that you guys have been saying. And like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: why with new guys are you putting in a new offense,
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  Speaker 1: especially when the new guys have never coached not only
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  Speaker 1: that system, but offense at all. Like that's a bad
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  Speaker 1: time to be making a lot of big changes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree with that, and we did talk about it, um,
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  Speaker 1: but it just when when you go back and you
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  Speaker 1: think throughout the summer when we were talking, we were
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  Speaker 1: doing our you know, the first four days we do
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  Speaker 1: live shows, the entirety of practice, and we're sitting there
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  Speaker 1: and we're watching and the five of us were looking
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  Speaker 1: at each other, you know, the four of us and
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  Speaker 1: Evan look right, and we're like, this just doesn't look right.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is just a train wreck, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And and then it's you know, it inevitably starts and
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  Speaker 1: I get it because you know, we're we're Patriots dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: We're you know, we're catering to hardcore Patriots fans, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody's like, it can't be that bad. I can't be
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  Speaker 1: that bad. They'll get it, you know, they'll figure this out.
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  Speaker 1: And I just like, right here, you know, right at
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  Speaker 1: the top of the story. Seeds of dysfunction were planted
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  Speaker 1: in the spring and summer, around the time Jones told
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  Speaker 1: the media he would teach his new quarterback coach, Joe Judge,
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  Speaker 1: the first of multiple comments he made that would irk
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  Speaker 1: the staff, and I think, you know, months later members
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  Speaker 1: of the organization, since Belichick's offensive staff suffered from the
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  Speaker 1: same lack of cohesion players with display on Sundays, soon
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  Speaker 1: enough they knew they were all right, this is what
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is what we talked about all training camp.
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  Speaker 1: That paragraph sums up every like you watch mac in
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  Speaker 1: in this press conference. Is after you know what, did
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  Speaker 1: he maybe two, three, four times during training camp? He
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  Speaker 1: speaks right every time. The frustration dripped from every word.
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  Speaker 1: We know, the famous one and they get to that
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  Speaker 1: one later about David Andrews and his blow up on
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  Speaker 1: the field and his frustration. It was a combination to
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  Speaker 1: me of a plan that wasn't well thought out and
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  Speaker 1: an absolute refusal on the part of the players to
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  Speaker 1: accept the plan. And I think that conspire. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it would have been just there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: teams that aren't overly well coached that find a way
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  Speaker 1: to be functional. This was dysfunctional from the start because
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  Speaker 1: the players didn't want it, and they didn't want it,
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  Speaker 1: and the people who were teaching it didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: credibility correct, right. You know, It's like if Bill O'Brien
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  Speaker 1: was teaching it or someone who's but they would have
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  Speaker 1: wanted it, then they would maybe even if they didn't,
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  Speaker 1: they'd be like, well, he knows what he's talking about,
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  Speaker 1: so let's give him a chance. Let's give this a shot,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for now. But I think, like that article said,
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  Speaker 1: right from the get go, there were issues and so
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I think part of this is on
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  Speaker 1: Mac like, you know, do you remember when we would
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  Speaker 1: talk about those things that he said, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: want to be coached harder, and they became punchlines, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, I wouldn't like to be hearing this stuff
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  Speaker 1: of how we're Bill Belichick. And then you sort of wonder,
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  Speaker 1: why is Bill Belichick not publicly backing Mac Jones. This
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  Speaker 1: is why, like I think this, this story does not
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  Speaker 1: pay in a positive right. If on everything offensive, if
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  Speaker 1: kept his comments to private and you know, still told Bill,
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  Speaker 1: but not gone public, I bet you Bill would have
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  Speaker 1: backed him up in public more. And it's not it's
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  Speaker 1: not about right or wrong, because we can all sit
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  Speaker 1: there and say, well, he was right, he was right,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. According to this, I get it. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't well coached. Yeah, doesn't mean he was right. Right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I could handle it better, you know, And it's a
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  Speaker 1: way to handle it. Yeah. Yeah, And it's I mean
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  Speaker 1: as a second year quarterback. Yeah, well, it's just I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it makes you happy that that you have Bill O'Brien,
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  Speaker 1: who I think everybody thinks has the temperament and the
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  Speaker 1: knowledge and the experience to walk back into that room
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  Speaker 1: and have the players hopefully say, okay, let's just flush
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two's offense down the drain. This is the
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien offense. But again at the same point I
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  Speaker 1: brought at the beginning of the last show. It's just
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  Speaker 1: frustrating that like it started bad, it got worse. There
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  Speaker 1: was no changes that could be made. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: watched five months of football. No, I know that went now.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of a lost season. And you know, like, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take responsibility. Uh, and ultimately it's my
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  Speaker 1: Like I thought it was gonna be okay, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to kill you for it. You had two former
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  Speaker 1: head coaches, and but I was dead wrong. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think Bill was trying to think out of the
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  Speaker 1: box and he was dead wrong. You know. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna back you. And that's if I make cheap
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  Speaker 1: shots that you were about that, I want you to pay.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to call me out because I don't
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  Speaker 1: play own it no, because I think that you were
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  Speaker 1: you were just trying to be one of the few
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  Speaker 1: guys that was going to look at it from the
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  Speaker 1: other So I wasn't doing that just to be no,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think I genuinely thought this could work out.
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  Speaker 1: I genuinely think that you felt like it was strange
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  Speaker 1: right from the start, and you were just trying. You
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  Speaker 1: were thinking out of the box, you know, like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't a straight line to the goal.
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  Speaker 1: It was, you know, a long way to Grandma's house.
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  Speaker 1: But I genuinely thought, these guys have now been head
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  Speaker 1: coaches in this league, and that's valuable experience. It's you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't duplicate that expect you did keep saying and
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  Speaker 1: I told right, but right, but and I you know,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, there's like there's a saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a good coach, you're a good coach. And
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  Speaker 1: I still believe that, Like if you're a good position
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  Speaker 1: coach and you know the game, I think you can
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  Speaker 1: coach any position. But where I was wrong is being
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  Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator or even just a play caller is
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  Speaker 1: not coaching. That's not coaching. You know, that's more of
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  Speaker 1: an art. You know, it's more of a you know,
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  Speaker 1: knowing how to do it. It's not coaching offensive lineman. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's different technique. It's more about big picture macro offense,
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  Speaker 1: what plays to coaching is teaching. Yea calling plays is
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  Speaker 1: not teaching. That's even teaching. I think there's different skill
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  Speaker 1: sets and falls, Like a wide receiver isn't necessarily the
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  Speaker 1: guy I want coaching defensive one. Fair enough, fair enough? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I but I still generally get your point though, Fred,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, coach a position, teaching techniques,
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  Speaker 1: those kind of things. It certainly helps when the coaches
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  Speaker 1: coming from a system that they know inside and out,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, someone like Dante Scarnekie who had been
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  Speaker 1: here for twenty years, has the ability probably to talk
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  Speaker 1: to just about any position at least on offense and
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  Speaker 1: tell them what they're supposed to be doing on a
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  Speaker 1: given play. And that's like what this staff didn't have.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just amazing to me reading this because it's
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  Speaker 1: everything you kind of thought. But then it started as
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  Speaker 1: bad as we kind of speculated it might be, and
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  Speaker 1: it got worse. And you know, as much as you
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  Speaker 1: sat through all those press conferences of like, oh, we're
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  Speaker 1: working at it, we'll get it, like you know now,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it just reframes kind of this season for
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  Speaker 1: me as as man. It must have been really, really
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  Speaker 1: tough for a lot of those guys. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know that people made mistakes on the coaching staff,
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  Speaker 1: and people made players made mistakes and how they handled it,
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  Speaker 1: but just how hard it must be to deal with it,
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  Speaker 1: and and everything that we were talking about was true,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all those things. It almost makes it impressive
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  Speaker 1: that it didn't come out sooner because it's the same
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  Speaker 1: narrative we've been talking about. Since they hear what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: I think it did. It came out summer. This is,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, this was the basic topic of conversation
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  Speaker 1: that we had on July twenty nine. That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: And then the players have to hear all that and
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  Speaker 1: just publicly face us and be like what no, no no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. What the players were saying was our topic
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  Speaker 1: of conversation. They were telling you they didn't think this
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  Speaker 1: was going to work, and we talked about it, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody said, what are you talking about? You know, he
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  Speaker 1: just wants to be coached harder. That's a rocket shot
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  Speaker 1: at his coaches. We said it at the time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was yeah, uh, And you know, so it's all
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  Speaker 1: out there. Bill O'Brien's hired, but the job's not over,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in terms of rebuilding the confidence and faith
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  Speaker 1: of this team. The job's not over with just hiring
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. And I'm looking at Bill Belichick. He's got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of work to do to now kind of
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: restore the confidence in the system with the team. You know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: it's not Bill O'Brien taking over the offense. It's Bill
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: saying Okay, that didn't work and publicly saying that to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the team, not not us. He doesn't have to say
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: it to the media. I'm talking about to the players,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: like I screwed up. Yeah, I screwed up. But we're
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: gonna get better. It's gonna be good, you know. So
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: he's got to do that. I mean, I'm hoping that
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: that conversation happened with Matt because I think that that's
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: probably the first bridge that has to I don't know
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: if it could be mended, but at least can establish
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: some level of confidence that things are going to be,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you know, different. But after reading this, it's just it
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: makes me wonder a little bit more about you know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: where is Matt Patricia with the Shrine Bowl And you
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: know he's not on that list. You know, I think
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: there was a report today from Ian Rappaport that Joe
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Judge was headed to the Shrine Bowl. Yeah, I saw
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that and I retweeted it. Remember that's a networking thing too.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I retweeted that without comment. I'm not so sure after
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: reading this, I'm not so sure. I mean, maybe he
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: is there, but I'm not positive. It was interesting how
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport came out with it, really right after this
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Callahan and Greigian story was getting like all the traction, Like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I wonder why. I just I mean,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't think I no matter how bad it went
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: last year, I never really believed up until today that
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: either one of those guys would get moved out because
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I think they still would have value in some aspect
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: of the organization in Bill Belichick's eyes, And at this moment,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not so sure what happens next
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick or even Robert Craft. I hold no grudges
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: against Joe Judge or Matt Patrician. I go back to
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: this like they were just trying to do the best
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: job they could, so there's I think there's nothing that
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the team should be holding against based on this story.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: It's a little something I hold against Joe Judge. Maybe
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: he's got a temper, but that's how he is. Well.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: But he's coaching other Okay, he's the quarterbacks coach. Why
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: is he getting involved in everything else? I'm sure as
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: a special team's coordinator he yelled at people too, you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: so what are you focusing on yelling? But if Joe
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Judge wants to go to the Shrine Bowl in network
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: on our dime, I'm I'm gonna let him. Yeah, get
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: on the charter, pay for your story. Accuses him of
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: over stepping okay, not like but not not just telling,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: but that happens when things aren't going bad. Everybody wants
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to try to fix it, and I don't. Usually you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: have guys that know what they're talking about trying to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: fix it. But whatever, in terms of the thing that
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, Duce, like, I'm I'm with you and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Fred and being really surprised if in fact, Matt Patricia
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and Joe Judge are gone, but not for the same
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: reason like I think they should be gone. I'm just
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: really surprised that Bill wouldn't say all right, like Fred
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: keeps saying, you did me a solid, you know, all right,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: let's let's get you back in a different role. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I think, but I think the lack of faith and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: what those two guys were talking about last year quote
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: unquote needs to be out of the locker room. I agree,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And I think that's why they're gone. That's like, that's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the part I'm surprised. I kind of agree with Paul,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like, if it was that bad, you guys
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm sorry, you know, and and I'm I'm
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: gonna do whatever I can to help you get your
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: next job or whatever you need out. You know, if
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: someone calls for a reference, it was on me. But
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to keep them part of it with all that bad will,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think is in the best interest of the team. Yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that and that, and that's why I think it's happened. Yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: if you would ask me a month ago, Yeah, you know, well,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Joe je just take over special teams. Well, matt Patrician
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: just either be part of the defense or go back
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to the Arnie Adams role. Yeah, yeah, that sounds right now,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that's what I Yeah, and that's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: like for me that the Mattie p in the and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the Ernie Adams roll two years ago. Like that's like
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a dream job, Like you don't really you have like
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: no none of the accountability. You're just kind of accountable
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to Bill. You're up in this, You're not having an
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: interview with it. We didn't hear from him for a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: whole year. Then he gets thrown into the offensive and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: now he might be out when he might have had
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a job that like Ernie Adams, like I could have
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: been coasted into as long as Bill series the guy
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: up in the booth, no one ever. That's why I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that's why I give him sympathy, you know, Matt Patricia,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you know that's why I I think I'm with you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing in here really comes off that he
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: was a dick about it, Like it seems like Joe
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Judge was a dick about it, but it doesn't. The
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: reputation had in like New York too, So it's exactly.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just remember how when things went
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: bad in New York is his last couple of press conferences.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely that contributed to why he finally got the acts, absolutely,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and and that that would have scared the crap out
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of me to bring him back. Yeah, like the guy
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: unraveled especially dealing with the players, like, yeah, exactly, Yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So anyway we move on Bill O'Brien. Uh, I thought
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Evan had a good look in his opinion of what
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the offense might look like under O'Brien. Yeah. Um, waiting
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to get a call about why is he giving away
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: all our superts? You know, I don't think you'll get that,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: but you know it's it's it's gonna be interesting off Yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and what else is I'm excited what else is to come?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Note that speculated clem move hasn't happened, but you know
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is does Bill O'Brien have some say now in terms
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: of other staff members he wants to bring in or hire? Um,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I assume we're hitting the pause button while everybody's in
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Vegas for the next week, putting the putting that altogether. Yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I mean I was looking up. Uh. You know the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: way NFL coaching contracts usually work, and usually uh they
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: expire on January thirty first. It's not like the league
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: year like with players, because they have to get those
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: done quicker because they have to be in place before
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the players start coming in. So January thirty four, it's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: a it's a tough time to have to go coach
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a college bowl game, you know you? I mean theoretically,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: could you could lose the coach in the middle of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: next week? Right right right? I'll be going tomorrow. Well
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: but if you want a guy back, yeah, like you,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know how those guys are in the last
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: year of their contracts. Yeah, I don't know, you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: if any I mean, I'm pretty sure based on reports
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that Nick Kayley is not Yeah, he's his contract, He's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: not there. He's not one of the ones that was
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: listed as having gone right. So, I mean, like Troy
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Brown to me that the question that Mike ass is
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the one that I that I have the interest of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: contract for life? Can can I have I do an
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: impression of Fred doing an impression and then it comes
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: out like Cleveland from many That's the beauty of all
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of Fred's impressions is that you do the impression of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Fred at Rush used to have an album. Uh. But
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: whether or not Bill O'Brien has the say like does
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: he have any input in? You know? So? I like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I had that as part of like a retweet on
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the Adrian clamps up, and some was like, well,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: don't you think you went over that idiot, you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and is it? Yeah, I do. I'm pretty sure that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: they did talk about this. I wasn't in the interview though,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: so I don't know what the answer to the question is, Like,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think Bill's O'Brien is gonna be suddenly Wait
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a minute, Bill, you said I could hire all my stuff,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Now I can't. I don't think that's going to happen.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Whatever they agreed to, they agreed to, right um. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I think that one of the reasons why the release
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: didn't go out till this morning is because they were
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: working on those details. Could be well quarterback coach too,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: probably a little bit. Yeah, yeah, that he's there as well.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And one more thing just to highlight with Nick Kayley,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: is your guy Nate Hackett going to the Jets. Some
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: speculation about him and aa Ron Rogers maybe perhaps a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: reunion and the oh my god, Patriots fans heads are
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: gonna explode. You got Josh Allen, Aaron Rodger, but he stanks,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: oh Josh Allen? Oh yeah, forget the windows close went
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: they went, they they expired, and Tom Brady and Miami expired.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: You hit my last one, Tom Brady, Miami. Uh, Patriots aside.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like Aaron Rodgers and with
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the Jets would just be like must watch TV, like
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: just all of it, not just the field stuff, but
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: off the field, the fans, everything in New York and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that Rodgers. I mean, I think you got a little
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: taste of it, No Eight, when five went there and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden they've got I mean
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that's the same thing, right they old and Old Green
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Baker where Five got in trouble with like the cheerleader
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: director or something like that and something. It was a reporter,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: right Jan Sterger or something like that. No, she worked
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: for the team. Yeah, she was a team reporter. Yeah,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: oh team reporter something like that. Yeah right, yeah, bad
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: job because I could have been you wele No, no,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: never be hard, no athlete rule hard. No, probably probably
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: a good way to you, like the creative sorts. Um.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I just it's being on the road, it's being I
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: don't know, oh yeah, yeah, it's harded a pilot didn't
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: go well, I imagine it any athlete. Yeah, too much temptation,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: too much money. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about the strip
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: club thing. I mean yeah, come on, yeah, anyway, five Pulse,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like we did eighty five. Pats five hundred is a
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: ticket hot line, web radio Patriots dot com. It's the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: email address. What else we got? What else we got? Uh, well,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we're I mean we're a gear enough for the Shrine
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Bowl that that's uh yeah, I mean kind of Senior
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Bowl the next week. So I've been, uh, Evan, are
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you going to Senior Bowl? No? No, it's all broadcasts,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: so we we'll have we'll have full access to everything.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe DeMarcus Covington does. But um, I started putting together
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a post of just all the guys down there, you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: guys to kind of watch. But uh as we get
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: going here on on draft season, so I'm excited. We
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: got the combine too. We got all the schedule of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: those guys. Kind of interesting, Paul. I don't know if
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you noticed. They switched up this order this year, so
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it's you know, of just what the prospects go. Usually
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it was like dbs eventually last Yeah, dbs are going earlier.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Are they going defense first? The old line is the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: old line QB, and running backs are going towards the end.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So um yeah, we'll probably probably stay through all of it,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: just because we need alignment and then we'll ask last
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: group to go. So um, yeah, it's all you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I'll coming together the next couple of months, we'll really
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: be uh, we'll be in just getting all that suff
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: People say, you know, what do you guys do in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the off season, And a lot of times the off
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: season is is busier than the regular season, and it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: definitely because like it's definitely harder. It might not be busier,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: but it's harder because the schedules, well, yes, any moment.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: The schedule is such in the regular season that everybody
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: knows exactly what they need to do when they need
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to do it. Get you get into a locker room, thay, Yeah,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I mean that there's always you know, the long weeks
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: followed by the short weeks and all that stuff. But
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: in the off season, like I mean, you'll be hard
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: pressed to be any busier than you will be like
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that second week in March and whenever, you know, whenever
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the news I think the new league year is like
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the fifteenth, you get the two or three day the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: two days before that with the tampering period and all
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the reports of signings, and then your free agency starts
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and trades happen, you know, that's when Hunter Renfro is
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: going to become a Patriot. By all accounts, you'll be
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: very about that one. So did you see that Waller
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and Renfro? Okay? So well, I think people only have
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: tied Renfro to the Patriots, though Waller is another Raider supposedly,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Evidently Josh McDaniels wants to retool his
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: roster and get rid of all his good players. So yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that's why I don't understanding what's wrong with Hunter. It
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. But I have a question,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and you know that I come at it and I'm
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I'm up front about it. I'm not the biggest Hunter
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Renfro fan, right, okay? And you hate the Patriots? Would
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you rather have Jacoby Myers or Hunter Renfro? Jacoby Myers?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I would too? Is that stupid? Am I an idiot
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: for that? No? Because Hunter Renfro had one year in
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: four years that was better than the last two that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Myers had. Yeah, No, I'd rather have Myers and he's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: more expensive. Yeah. Yeah, That's something we didn't mention is
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: that Jacoby allegedly was playing with a partial Tarrell year. Yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that's that's also in this the nugget and Romandre Stevenson
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: was more beat up. Yeah, that one, That one we
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: kind of knew. But what were he gonna do? I mean,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: there was it was him and rookies left at the end.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: That was all we knew. He was going to get
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: banked up, right. Yeah. Yeah, it says he played through
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a small tier on his knee mid season. That was Myers.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: And then so I said, he of Stevenson, he wore
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: down and he was hurt more than he led on
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: um and then he you know, the talked about you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: then this is sort of prefacing the lateral with the Raiders. Yeah,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: in Vegas, and it's still teammates and coaches backed Myers
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and Stevenson knowing that they had been boxed in the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: same impossible position the offense found itself in all year long,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: fighting a two front war against a Sunday opponent in
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: an enemy from within. That's really tough for someone that's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: good writing though, to say about Jacoby when he's in
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: a contract year that come out. Oh, I didn't even
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: think of it that way. But that's that's a tough
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. I didn't even think of it
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: that way way under the bus. Wow, I think it
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: helps Jacoby. Don't you know it hurts him trying to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: get a contract? Why because he's damaged goods. But just
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a little tear, that's not a bad I don't know
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: what that means. But that's a tear. Is it's a
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: little tent that was nice, that's the opposite. That's see
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: what I did playing at I know, well, look what
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I can do for you, unless it's someone trying to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: get him to resign here on a that's what I'm saying,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: like that's kind of doing him dirty. I agree with you,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: not great, but he's probably going to be in line
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: for I don't know, twelve thirteen million somewhere in that neighborhood.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: And you know a v is over sixteen for for
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Renfro and he's got a like a roster bonus that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you do, and it's guaranteed. His salary next year is guaranteed.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just to be honest, I'm over the rest of
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the league and free agency. I just wanted draft guys.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I just want to draft guys. I don't need to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: mind free agents. But like I have a guy that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I know works in this system. No, I know he
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: can play in Foxborough and I think he's gonna catch
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: eighty five bulls, right, So why do I need to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: go out and get another guy? Well, I want to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: get mcconky. Um. Just to admit that made me laugh.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: But speaking of money, UM, me too. Just to hear
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: you say mc conky over and over again next season.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: The Great Dante Scarnecki was on the radio this morning
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and how did they get him to come on the radio.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: They were talking, they were talking about money and rare
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: get and Dante was going on about, you know how
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the cap limits you blah blah blah, and I gotta
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I gotta give credit to one of your guys, Paul
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Chris Curtis. He said, Dante, I gotta disagree with you,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and he went on about how you know you can
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: do things with the cap. Yeah, you know. So it
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: was good to see, you know, at least at least
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a little pushback. Yes, And I'm not saying it's to me,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it's the money is a real thing. Because Dante even
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: used the word hard cap. It's anything but a hard cap.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Even I'll admit the NHL is really the only hard
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: cap in sports. Um. But you know when terms of that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Like when you look at Hunter Renfro, I think it's
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I forget exactly the numbers, but it's like a five
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: million dollar roun. It's it's four in change, you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: guaranteed his salaries like six and a half guaranteed. Like
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that's money, Like forget the cap. That's that that's cash
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: money that has to go out. And that's what makes
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: it more difficult. That's what ties up your ability to
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: get other guys, right, you know, if you wanted to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: get you know, if you want to draft a left
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: tackle for example, Okay, so that's that's a cheap fixed
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: cost for four years, right, and with the ability to
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: up him for a fifty year, right, But then you're
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: probably gonna need another tackle. Well, that costs money. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the other thing that doesn't get talked about as much,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: but it's something that a GM or a head coach
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: has to deal with, is you're paying that guy that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: much from within your locker room, you know, because there
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: is a pecking order, and if you overpay, hey, a
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: guy that isn't viewed as worth that money. It it
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you know, sends a message in your locker room. So
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you have to be careful about your locker room politics
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: as well. Well. I think Jacobe is a big part
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of that. I mean, I think that's you know, I mean,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I agree with everything Paul said in terms of just
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the playing, but also, you know, one of max guys,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: when we see this article, like how much are they
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: going to do this offseason to men bridges with Mac?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Or based on Bill and what he said about Mac,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: is he not really like is he just going to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: kind of do what he did did and expect Mac
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to get on board, or will they actively do things
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: like hey, maybe we would have let Jacobe walk, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: let's maybe extend ourselves a little bit more just to
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: try to give some reinforcement of guys that we know
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Mac likes. I'm just curious what they do with him,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Like how much do they play kate him? How much
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: do they just because the he can play in this
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: league and we've all got to play better. Sounds to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: me just like you just better get in line. We're
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: gonna get Bill O'Brien here, and it's going to be better.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But he can't expect us to know, bend over backwards
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to try to, you know, make him half be this year.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know it's yeah, interesting what they're going to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: do with him this year? YEA, all right, five five
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: past five hundred eight, take a outline, let's hit the phones.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: We'll start with Hugh in Canada. What's up, Hugh? Hey, guys,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: can you hear me? Ken, I'm a first time caller.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I've been listening since probably middle of last year. I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: just want to see you guys doing a great job.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I have two questions. Uh, with the addition
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of Bill O'Brien as Guffin's coordinator, do you think this
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: year is kind of a make it or break a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: year for Mac even I think even if it doesn't
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: have the greatest weapons, we should still see some kind
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: of flashes from him, like with Justin Fields and Chicago.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And my second question is I was listening to Evan
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: on T twenty two yesterday. He was saying a big
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: part of Bill O'Brien's offense is the slot receiver. If
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: this offseason we can't get a number one guy on
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the outside or that number one slot, do you think
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the would consider flipping Marcus Stones from cornerback to wide receiver. Yes, all, yeses, Yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I do think if they if they get stuck. And
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: this is I'm going to give you know, the fattest
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: of mouths credit here. This is Nandy hartism. He's been
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: pounding this for a couple of weeks. If you lose Myers,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: would would you consider using Marcus Jones more regularly as
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: your slot receiver? And I would? I think it's I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: think it's an option that you definitely need to at
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: least address, need to look at. I wouldn't. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I just personally, I feel like he's going to be
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: too valuable as a returner and as a corner. I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: don't think he's all that valuable as a corner. A
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: lot more valuable if Jonathan Jones and Miles Bryant leaves,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he could be your number one slot next year. Then
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you're in trouble. Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: be disrespectful, but he's a five eight corner and I
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: don't know how. I don't know how you survive. They're
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: already so undersized. There would just say this. I think
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that there's some gray area when we talk about a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: slot receiver. Are we talking about the third or fourth
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: receiver on the team that comes out on third and long,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: like Danny Amendola did, because I think what they really
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: need is they don't need that guy as much as
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: they need like a Julian Edelman, who is not really
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a slot receiver. He can play kind of outside inside,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: he can do a lot. Somebody, Yes, right, somebody I'm friend,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and so in that regard, like you know, if we're
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: talking about Marcus Jones as the fourth or fifth receiver
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and something, great, I'd be fine with that. But if
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: we're talking about him as like a every down kind
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of like guy like Edelman, like that friend, I don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: want an offense that's revolving around Julian Edelman anymore. I
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: don't think you can win that way anymore. So if
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you have if you have like a I agree with Mike,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: if you have a complimentary slot receiver who's money when
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I need him. Yeah, that's value. That's what Hunter Renfro
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: was two years ago for the Raiders, and that's what
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Myers has been um periodically in his career. Jalen Waddle,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: like I said, Edelman just as a person that was here.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: That's not the skill set that I'm emulating. Jalen Waddle
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: would be because I think some people would call him
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a slot receiver. Yeah, I think I agree with you.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: That's a slot receiver in the traditional sense. I think
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: sells him short. I think that now I'm you know
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: what I mean, that's the gray area I'm trying to
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: get around because we talk about slot receiver and everybody
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: just sees Wes Welker and we need a five eight
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: white guy like you know, and I just don't need
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a guy averaging eight point nine yards Kelly and like
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and I think that there's a value for and and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that's fine. Is a Marcus Jones guy like yeah, like,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: um so you're not going to be very good offensively.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a big need. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: would see that more as like if we're going to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: draft a first round wide receiver, that's it. That's what
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: he does. He plays every down, he comes inside. He's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the quick, open guy, you know, but he but he's
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: a first round talent. He's the like a waddle type
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: who can take get to the house, you know, who's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: a threat like that and not in that family of
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you know, this is the guy that comes on if
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you're going to give me a wattle or a hill.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Because I think both of those guys are Slottish receivers. Yeah,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: that'll take. And we talked about Christian Kirk on Tuesday.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Dynamic playmaking ability from the slot. Yes, i'll take. I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: love what those guys did, but I think that a
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: big part of the Patriots offensive success at that time
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: was Brady and his ability to throw six of those
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: on a drive without missing any of them. In to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Fred's point, they're all resulting in first downs. Why because
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: as soon as the guy broke, the ball's right on
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: his shoulder, the deep dig to Edelman like that, like that,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I think Brady had a lot to do with ther Yeah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: let's go to Todd in North Carolina. What's up Todd? Hey, guys,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you've covered a lot of what I was curious. All right,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah, Fred. So I'll get two quick comments
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: and then a couple of questions and then i'll take
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: it off. There is starting out with I think I
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: think Bill did a disservice to both Patricia and Judge.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I don't like Patrician Judge, but I think he puts
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: them in a no in situation unfortunately, and there just
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: wasn't the support there and then off the support. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: don't think Bill did a really good job this year
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: of putting people on a place where they could succeed,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and I think that is across the team everywhere else.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I agree with that that last part wholeheartedly. I think
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: there's some issues and I think you should have put
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Judge and Patrician places they can see. Now. My last
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: question is, or the final question is do you think
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Patrician Judge will be toxic on the team after you
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: know their history, like the leave Detroit, they leave New York,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: both New York and Detroit make the almost make the playoffs,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: they do the seasons turns around for them, and the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: history here is just horrible from this last year. Do
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you keep them? I know, I think I think that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'm with Paul. I've changed my mind a little bit
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: on that. I think I think they have to go.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I think they have to go. Yeah, And I think
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that what Mike and I are talking about, what we
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: talked about the top of the show is I think
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna do. I think that's what it
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: all signs are pointing to those guys aren't going to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: be back. If you read this story and you listen
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to the way that Judge has talked about I don't
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: see him coming back, and we've already seen a report
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: from Tom cunran about Matt Patricia not coming back. So yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I was if you're asking me what I thought, Yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I thought a month ago, Yeah, they'll be back in
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: another role, right right. I thought maybe in these All
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Star Games would be a chance to reveal where they're
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: going to end up. Oh, Joe Judge is coaching the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Special Teams again, Like, what a coincident? Is it? But nothing?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Paul, Patty's an agaham, what's up? Patty?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Hey everyone? How's it going today? Good? Hello Patty? That
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millan on the other line or a different you?
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think it was. I think
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it was Hugh Grant. Oh, early nineties flashbacks. So I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: just had a couple of question said just thinking about
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a rom com Josh Allen on Tuesday and just I'm
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: kind of with him, were like, let's let's not annoy
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: anybody until they at least like get there, you know.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And Paul, I don't think he sucks. I think he's
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a great guy. Take I would take him over almost
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: anyone not named Pat Maholmes or maybe Joe Burrow, But
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: just a couple of quick questions. I wanted to get
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: your guys opinions on I'm not saying it's a possibility,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: but if they were to like trade for a guy
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: like Jerry Judy, would I just wanted to get to
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: your guys thoughts on him. I would love him in
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: this offense because I think he's that kind of first
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: little guy that he could play inside and outside. And
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: do you guys think hiring Bill O'Brien will finally hopefully
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: unlock John and Smith. And that's all I got. I'll
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: take it up there. Yeah, that's a good question. I know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I don't hope. So though I think Judy's a guy,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: he's one of those veteran receivers that you know, quote
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: unquote veteran. I know he's still young, but that we've
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, maybe you can swoop in and
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: grab him. Yeah, that would that increase the talent level
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: in your wide receiver, which again would be an Alabama
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: move a MAC guy, you know, like a move to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: like kind of get somebody for Mac. You know, I
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: think it would signal more than just that. I'd be
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: all for it. Um, But my main energy though as
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I said, I feel like the draft is is where
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: they've just eleven picks, I think is what they're going
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: to have and got a hit on at least a
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: few of those. Oh you think, yes, I do. Uh,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: let's go to uh my guy Tommy's and Lynn who's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: an fop. Yes, what's up Tommy? How are you budd
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: How are you big numbers on our podcast the other night? Tommy?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: How are the numbers the other night? I want big numbers.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I expect a little bit more in the paycheck then,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, I want to talk about a little
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: bit about the Patriots aspects coordinator. I like the old Brian.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I like how we's back here. Uh. I want to
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: see it work. I want to see back to thee
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: in the third year year, and I want them to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: get a top wide receiver, maybe Te Higgins or maybe
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy. What do you guys think like it? I
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: think we're all on board. We're all on board. Oh yeah,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: well on Bo and John hous needs to play good
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and they need to get a couple of pieces on
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a defense and then they could be right there in
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Because this, as ye was a big Epics failure.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And you think they should bring Brady back because they
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: said this on the podcast, and I want to say
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: it on you. You think Brady will come back to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: throw Brian's back, No one, no, no, yeah, I don't
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: think so, you know, like, and I love Tom Brady,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it's you've once kissed him. Yeah,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's the most thing to do. All right,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: you guys have a great thing. And this is my
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: first time follow on the show, and I want to
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: say thanks again Paul for coming on the podcast the band.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks Tommy. What's that podcast? What that podcast?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You give him a little plug? Yeah, Tommy, Tommy knows
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: best podcast. Tommy knows best. Think he has his own
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel. I'm sure you you you youngsters can find it, Okay,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: he's uh the sweet guy, sweet guy, good guy, good kid, Yes,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: good kid. Willie's and Philly? What's up? William? Thank what's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: going on for it? How are you going? All right? U? Um?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: We're oh god, it's it's a shame how the players. Um,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I kind of had a film they were throwing some
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: way though, you know what I mean, after everything that
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: went on and how they felt them whatnot. And I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: don't blame him, honestly. I'm sorry. I'm going to elevator.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, where are you going, Tyler? Yeah? Go
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: in down and um more thanks to Also, Uh, y'all
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: was talking about, uh, who would you take Jakobe Meyers
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: or hundre Ring. Yep, we took my arms. I'll say this,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Olay say, okay, due, koreey mine. Well, I'll let y'all
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: have bit. I'll take Uh, I'll take Jerry Judy and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: hate him. Oh, I would take Jerry. Yeah. Yeah, I
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: would take any day fast shiftier, It's perfect. Yeah. And
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Machaelo Jerry ju you know they know each other. So okay,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: let's get him. Let's get him. William, all right, thank you,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: love it, love it, William. Yeah, I didn't think the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: choice was Yeah. I was just talking like, I think
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: this this fascination with Hunter Renfro because he was in
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: college at the time, coming off of Welker and then Edelman,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and everybody just looked at as the natural succession plan
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and he did too. I remember, I don't know if
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: it was the year that you were with the first
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: year you were with me, but he told us a
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: story that he always felt like he would be a Patriot.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: He had like a custom Patriot shirt. But he said
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: at the combine that he actually used to sign his
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: autograph Hunter Renfro, future New England Patriot, Hunter Renfro. That's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: how he would sign his his autographs. Kind of weird.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: It is kind of weird, right, So I'm not telling
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: you Hunter Renfro is not a good player. He is
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a good player. He's a really good player. I just
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I think you have a really good receiver here who's
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: played the last few years, who I think can they coexist? Well,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: not for that money. You're gonna tie up all that
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: money in a slot receiver cap is crap. Paul, I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: didn't talk to Did I say anything about you're gonna
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: tie up all that cap money? Money? I said money. Well,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: what's a difference then, if a cash I know that's
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the difference. I just think I'd rather if you're gonna
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: pay that money to those two guys, I'd rather take
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: it and get one. And I really do think that
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the game has changed a little bit in that I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: think that's what the defense wants you to do. Now,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: just throw the underneath stuff, peck your way down the field,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you're gonna make a mistake before you get there. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: when you don't have Brady, chances are the defense is right.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, one of the things that Evans
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: talked about a lot this year about the too high
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: look that kept everything underneath. I think that was largely
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: adapted by a lot of defenses this year with success. Now,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: did the offense disappear around the league? No, but it
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: was down a little bit, right, And when you get it,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: when you get a guy like Joe Burrow, he can't
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: complete all those passes, he can methodically matriculate down the field.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: They also have Jamar Chase te Higgins and Tyler Boyd
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: is the slot recite and just attle different level of
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: talent that you're dealing with there, right, you know. For
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals probably have the best receiving group
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: as a whole in the league. Yeah, to go with
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I gotta be honest, Like I just I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: came out of this weekend not to make it a
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow glow up, but like it just it doesn't
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: even matter, Like like they have great weapons. But I'm
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: sure that when te Higgins leaves, they're gonna get somebody else,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna make that pretty good no matter who
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: it is. He's that good. And I just and another
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: kind of conclusion I came to was and I think
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I touched on it with you know, Josh Allen the Bills,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, I think they might get a super
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Bowl at some point, but I Burrow is going to
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: be there every fricking year because he's not gonna get
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: banged up. He's so smart. It's just, you know what
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, that's a big Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: who have all these like limb injuries that they're dealing
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: with throughout the season, tows you know what I mean,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: they're running there. You know, Look, those guys are going
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to be successful. They'll have a couple of seasons where
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: they get they're healthy enough, they play well enough in
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the three playoff games starts. I just feel like Burrow,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: with the way he plays the game like Brady did,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be for a long time, you know. And
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Brady because I don't think that
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: that's fair. It's not fair to Borrow, but he's I
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: agree with Mike. I think he's the closest replication of
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Brady that's playing right now. I just think for consistent
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: he's way more athletic in the AFC. And I mean
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: all due respect to Christmas and Patrick Mahomes, and they
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: will of course be there, but I mean you're seeing
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: it this weekend. It's you know, I mean a couple
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of years ago he had the knee injury where these
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks, it's you know, you get that one season, Lamar.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: He it all works out, he has an MVP year
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and but you know, he still wasn't able to put
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: it together in the playoffs. It's such a narrow road
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: with those guys, whether it's injuries and perform moments. They
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: put so much on themselves. Yeah, Brian writes in he
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't say where he's from. Eric wouldn't like that. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I'm my bucket list to call in and speak to
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the crew one day, but this will have to coincide
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: with the day off work, so he's working today. I
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: guess I'm excited about the return of Bill O'Brien for
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: two reasons. For one, I hope, through his guidance, will
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: see a return of discipline penalty free offensive play. Secondly,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: perhaps his time as a college coach will provide the
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Patriots with inside knowledge about draft prospects and even unrestricted
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: free agents to infuse the team with highly effective players.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I like the college part of that. I mean, it's
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: a guy who spent two full years in the SEC
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and probably knows the the personnel in that league now,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: probably more so the defensive personnel because that's what he
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: was going against all the time. But I think that's
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: a good point. I think he's a guy that should
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: bring some knowledge to the table. Yeah right, and no, no,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: for sure, I'm just laughing because Evan brought it up,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and I feel like Evan's so excited for him to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: like do all the things that Evan wants him to do,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm fully like, he's not going to do everything
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: that ever wants him to do. You know That's I mean,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that'll be fun to watching Evan get upset of like,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: why won't he did it in a whole bamm and
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: he's not doing it now. I'm sure there's gonna be
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: some of that. I'm just looking at my shows. Zoe
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: is not wearing shades, he's got regular glasses. One. He
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: looks like a different person like those nice brothers might
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: have been joking, joking around, because I think he just
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: took like Clark ken um Andrew keeps h emailing the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: show about using the word like, Well, we'll try not
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: to do that as much. No, I've been I've been
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: kind of listening for it. I don't think anyone's done
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: it so far today. I'm sure I do it. I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: need these from time to time so that you're aware
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: of it. I'm aware of those, and I try not
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: to do. The Other thing is when you're talking and
• 49:56
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• 49:58
  Speaker 1: exactly what you're going to say, and how do you
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: whatticulate that point? Like sometimes you need a little bit
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: of a yeah. But I get it with the like,
• 50:05
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• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Like to do we like you know they like I
• 50:12
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• 50:17
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• 50:22
  Speaker 1: of the people who has Evans said at PEU yesterday
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: is ready to fit Zave Flowers for a red jacket already.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: But he is really interesting candidate for a number of
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: reasons ability Boston College Shrine Bowl Patriots need. But if
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the reports are true that the front office is split
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: on upgrading receiver talent, I think Zave Flowers is the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: second and in the second is a solid compromise. I
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: would love to see us trade a tackle at four
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: draft to tackle at fourteen and jump up to the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: middle of late thirty like we did for Barmer, or
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: get Flowers, so I will get it. I've gotten into
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the draft a little bit. I just want to sit
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: and get this out there, that are you sold on
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: a right tackle in the first round, because that I'm
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: not sure I am and I'm not sure that there
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: are that there are going to be left tackles still
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: left by fourteen, at least not like the Paris Johnson's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of the world. There's a couple of them. But I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just I'm I'm dabbling my toe into
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the draft, and that's that's a question. I'm asking myself.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Do you need a right tackle that bad in the
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: first round? Said we're taking a right tackle in the
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: first round. Um, with the guy from Ohio State on
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the right side, was that big boy Paris Johnson. Uh, well,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: he's the one that played the left side. Right, isn't
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: there another? Uh? Oh? Is there another Ohio State? What
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: about just because I know there was sky Kid from Northwestern,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Paris Johnson from Ohio State, and then there was the
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: one from Georgia. What about Georgia? Sorry that Brodrick. What
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: about just taking the best tackle on the board. Yeah,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, it's all of them. I'm all for that.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: All of them have some questions. I think Paris Johnson,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you only played left tackle one
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: year there, but you know, a lot of those coming
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: in and they learned to play like that, like they're
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: left tackles and they play the right side initially, and
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm not telling you specifically, but I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: think even some of the greats like Walter Jones or
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: started out on Jonathan Ogden, you know, and I don't know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know about those specific guys, but even guys
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Orlando Pace, some of those guys are just left tackles
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: from day one and they never moved. But some of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: them play the right side for a year and settle
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: in for a twelve year dominance on the left side. Yeah,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: which I mean, it's just those left tackle gonna be there,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Like that's a slam dunk for me at fourteen, that
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: there was a prospect that they could step in. I mean,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: that's even asking a lot with what Solder goal like
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: seventeenth and he even had a year kind of a
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: to to get broken into it. But I don't know,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: it's just a draft question I have. All Right, we're
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• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: mean we have to have an intervention. It's never good enough.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Josh Uche, I'm tired of getting sad red That was
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: just as funny today as it was Yester. Red zone Well,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: you know probably you know they did they stopped him.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I mean they were able to score twice in the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: red zone. I mean you don't go from like oh
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: for seven to like five for five, like it usually
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't work. That week, there was progress last week. They
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: had two red zone touchdowns. Alex telling Kevin he doesn't
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: listen to me. Kevin broke like six tackles got it
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: on one play that was like the first play, like
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I did we throw it into the end zone really hard?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Why do you, oh, style points, fiskuit, It's got to
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: be a say you know what, You're no longer allowed
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: to don You're no longer allowed to make fun of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: me with my boys felgrand Mass because you are a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: wanna be felgrand Mass. You want to find something to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: pick out now. I they had to come from twenty
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: eight three down. I mean they didn't. They didn't throw
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: them all into theether. They got red zone scores, but
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: they didn't throw it into get the lead right away
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. It's unacceptable. I demand dominance and excellence.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Im perfect you. Yes, that's another great moment from bike
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: on now eight five five past five hundred disease to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: get hotline Webb that that was the same guy who
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: was bored with going twelve and four every year, right,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: and it was excited about the newness of I'm like
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: a rainbow Paul five pass. Let's see. Robin Coventry writes
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: in Gluten tag everyone or Guten abend uh seeing it's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: it's the evening here in the UK, as the season
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: dressed to a close for the Patriots, I'd be interested
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to your best and worsts. Back in October, I managed
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: to convince my wife that Boston was a convenient stopping
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: off point on our trip to Las Vegas and bought
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: two tickets for the Bears game. It may have been
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: the three thousand mile trip, or the bad weather, my
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: unimpressed wife, or the zero points in the second half,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: but for me, that was the worst game of the season.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I think that was the worst game of the season.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get tickets for the game in Germany,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: probably just a single ticket. Actually, how about the best
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: and worst for you? A few suggestions below? Best the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: way game, best away game were going, like the best
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: performance by the Patriots, Yeah, Cleveland clean, the Cleveland game, Yeah,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Arnold's second is Yeah. Worst home game was worst? Could
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I think the Chicago was the worst? Yeah? Best defensive
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: play best? Maybe the fumble six from from Dugger? Like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: where was that against Detroit? I like the pick on
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: the screen against the Raiders by Dugger? Okay, wasn't there
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: a great in Minnesota? Wasn't there a good nice pick by?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Was it Marcus Jones? Or who had the pick? Viking?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: I think Jonathan It was a great catch. No, Marcus
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Jones had that good return near the end of the season.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Was that Miami? Miami? Yeah, that was a good one,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: good runback. Worst offensive play. Hello, how come on? Hey, yeah,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, just like non non LA category. Yeah,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: best rookie Marcus Jones, Yeah, Marcus Jones and worst free
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: agent from last year? We who do we add? I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: can't even think of a guy we added this year, No,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: because I mean it was like the Terrence Mitchell's of
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: the world. And I mean I guess those all count right, Yeah, um,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell would be the worst. Nte Parker was a
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: trade and he was okay. Yeah, I don't know. I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: think Terrence Mitchell. I mean you signed, you signed a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: guy who has started in the league who didn't make
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: your team. Yeah, yeah, Malcolm Butler was out of footballs?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Where I put Terrence Mitchell ahead of him? Michael writes
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: in with Bill O'Brien's offense, will it provide a resurrection
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: for our tight ends? I don't think so. I don't.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Hunter Nry's okay, but I've I've
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: lost faith that JOHNA. Smith's gonna do anything more than anything,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: and I would just you know, Bill O'Brien took control
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: of the offense roughly at the same time that they
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: drafted Gronk and Hernandez, so was that because the offensive
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: you know, and I love Billy O'Brien, Is that because
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Billy O'Brien knew how to get the most out of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: these tight ends? Or you had, you know, in one case,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: the greatest tight end who's ever played at your disposal. Yeah,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I don't really remember the tight ends doing a whole
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: lot of Alabama the last couple of years. No, and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I and I and I might be wrong, but I
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of that was was kind of
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: directed more as in reaction to the Jets and the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Jets and Rex Ryan's defense and what they were doing,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: and some of it was even like the speed of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: how they went, you know, not allowing him to do
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: all the stuff that he was doing. I don't know.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I just always saw more in a reaction to where
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the team was and who they were going against them,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien coming in and saying, I need tight ends.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Plus the speed thing seems like that was connected to
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: the and that's part that's part of my slot thing
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: talk out, you know, and I saw we just got
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: an aspf W. Someone said Paul was snubbing the slot receivers,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and I don't mean to I'm not diminishing the importance
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: that Welker, Edelman and Brown had in a Mondola too like,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, I don't think that's the
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: number one element to return to prominence, because when you
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: had Welker, you had Moss, When you had Edelman, you
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: had Gronk. Like they need the number one, they need
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: the big dog. The big dog makes everybody else better.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: And I don't think slot receivers make everybody else better,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: like in the traditional sense, Like I'm not telling you
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: like Jalen Waddle is different to me. That's you know,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a top ten pick, Do you know
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Does that make any sense? I think
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Welker is great, and he is great, but he also
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: has a lot of room to operate because there's a
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: guy who's greater on the outside, who's occupying a lot
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: of a lot of thought. But the defense good slot
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: guy can be that binkie. Yes, yes, Dante's talking about
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: absolutely yeah, Peter and England writes in um, does this
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: herald confirmation of a new offense finally explain the picks
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: of strange in Thornton in last year's draft, and that
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: the offense was being planned then if so, assuming Bob
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: rolls it back to twenty eleven, do those two choices
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: still fit the reinstall, reinstall old Patriot way or will
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: they struggle to adapt? I think cole Strange will fit.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with everybody. Yeah, I don't think you
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: can put coal in the Yeah, I don't think Taekwon
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Thornton was a pick. With that in mind, I think
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: you can make an argument that Cole Strange was. But
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you know, if you want to if you want to
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: run outside stretch zone plays, you need athletic lineman, and
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: he's an athletic lineman. Yeah, so you could sell me
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: on that. Now, I don't think it was necessarily. What
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: is the phrase that you use? Cause? Correlation and correlation
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: and cause? I need to I need to write that down.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Alex learns stuff all the time. Tony writes in I'm
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: not sure if I agree with this email hearing the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: good hearing this article is good for Matt much respect
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: to him for speaking out. Takes backbone, especially in the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Patriots organization. To do what he did, especially as a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: young player. If he had kept it in house, nothing
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: would have changed. See. I don't agree with that. Yeah,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I don't agree. We're saying it only changed because Max
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: spoke out right. It was not. I think people knew
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: what was going on. Lord, I'm telling you right now,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: be prepared that if the off the offense is going
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: to be better next year, it can't be like that
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: because it's not going to have this level of dysfunction.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: So it's going to get better. When the offense is
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: just marginally better next year, be prepared for They gotta
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: get him weapons. What do you expect, right, That's what's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: going to happen, because this guy can do no wrong.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm hoping we cut that off the pass
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: and get some weapons this year. Really go all in
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: on figuring it out this year with him. You know,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: like for some people, you're right, Paul, But there's plenty
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: of Matt critics on this show and your show there,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: but there you don't think there's much smaller group like
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: that like that. You don't think there's a much smaller
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: group of people that that think that he's part of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: the problem. Fifty I don't. I do. They did a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: poll on your show. It was fifty fifty. In fact,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: it was more on Mac. I only talk to you
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: guys and I feel like I really I'm like, who
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: who are these? Like on an apologetic Mac apologists like,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: who are these people? I don't know, I haven't really
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: tied as his own little don't you embarrassed the people
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: he has like straw? All these guys have made out
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: of straw? Like can you can you think of other
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: than Mike Felger and Tony Massarotti. Give me a media
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: guy who is strongly anti Mac, anti Mac, strongly anti Mac,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: not having questions about whether or not he's the guy.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: But I don't think on Mac Jones. But I wouldn't
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: call a lot of no whole chance. I think Jim Murray,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I just said it, aside from the Felger mad show,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: whole show, the whole show. Well, you're anti everything. I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: don't know how many Tony Tony mas has spent the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: last two weeks begging and pleading the Bruins to lose
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: a game. They're anti everything. I know by guys, I
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: love you, I love you, mean it, But I just
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: think a lot most most people that I talked to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: with respect are like us are We're not like completely
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: anti Mac, but we're just kind of on the fence
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: leaning towards I don't really think he's gonna be able
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: to do it. I'm not saying, hey, let's get rid
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: of him right now. I'm willing to give him the
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: next year, but I don't have a lot of confidence
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: that he's gonna hit the level of Joe Burrow. I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: think this story, you know, be one of those final
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: four questions. I think this story exposes a lot of
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: the things that I have questions about Mac Jones. I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: didn't hear any of it when I was driving in
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: this morning. I didn't hear anybody talking about so Mac
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Jones rubbed everybody the wrong way before they even started this.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear anybody talking about that element of this
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: story this morning. When I read that, I was like,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: why didn't they talk about that this morning. I've paid
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of people criticizing Mac all season about his
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: behavior and all that. I've heard a lot of it
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: national people too. You know what, I've heard former players,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: former players from this team. Oh, that's that's different. That's
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: in addition, but that's not like, don't make me do this,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: don't make me do this. When Bill Belichier picks up
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: the phone and calls Vince will Folk and said, hey,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: can you do me a song? Like? That's what That's
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: what that was. I'm talking about the media. How was
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: dear Rolovski on Mac Jones this year? National media? Well,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: how was Kurt Warner on on Mac Jones this year? Ah? Really,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: he did a whole thing. It was like an hour
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: killing Mac or killing the offense, well, the offense but
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: both No, yeah, no, or lost. He's been oh, you
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: know what he may be married to about Kurt Warner
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: killed it. I just said Kurt. I just said Kurt Warner,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: and he didn't kill Mac. He killed the offense. Yeah,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: he had a whole notepad. Scratch the question mark about
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: this concept in this read. I hear both sides. There's
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: been a lot of criticism of Mac this season. A lot, okay,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: not among the media. Okay, I'm gonna repeat it. There's
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: been a lot of Tony Maserati and Jim Murray are
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: completely out on Mac Jones. I don't know who that's Yeah, No,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I agree with on that point. I don't know anybody
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: who's completely which which I think is ridiculous at this
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: point based on what we've seen, Like and I'm not
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: somebody who's gonna say, oh, I know he's the guy,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: but I don't know how based on last year you
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: can you can be out on him with what he did.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely how my doubts for sure, but
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: to like, no question about it, I'm out. I think
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: it's too too early. Yeah, I go back to the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: year before. I think everything that happened last year happened
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: in the last half of the year before, and no
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: one talks about it. Yeah. I think I think he
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: did not do as well down the stretch. The whole
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: team fell apart, but I think he included Yeah, but
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: I even counted games that they won. Like I'm not
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: just talking about games that they lost at the very end.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about, um, you know, down the stretch of
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: the season. I think people think, Okay, this is what
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: he does, this is and I think that's it. I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: think his ceiling is right there for you to see.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Everything is perfect. He's fine. Cheers. This is from Dan
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: in Virginia in Michigan, one of the four remaining of
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: the four teams remaining, who does Fred want to win
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? I'm not a great question. I'm not
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: up to date on Fred's fur and again, list who
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: do we hate? But it seems to me that every
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: remaining team has a black mark. In Fred's book, the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Chiefs have missus Ma Harpy. The Bengals had that issue
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots documentary Cameraman. The Eagles beat the Patriots
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty two. If the Niners win, it will
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: give them six lombardis putting them in the same rare
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: fight air as the Patriots and also the Steelers. I guess,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: so who is rooting for? Or will he be taking
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: a nice long five hour walk on Super Bowl Sunday?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: So yes, I think this is a great question. Who
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: am I supposed to be rooting rooting for? I'll tell
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: you who? Do you think? I want to go all
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: the way? Who would you be rooting for? I think
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be rooting for Philadelphia. It's convoluted, Paul, got it.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Philadelphia. I think I think the U
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: their transgression is the least about them. Yes and friends,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: all they I mean, all they did was they beat
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: us in the game, right right right, And they're definitely
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: an annoying fan base that but they're passionate. They are passionate.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I you know, It's like the Steelers. Like I used
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: to listen to a lot of the national sports shows,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: and the Steelers fans always show up even after the losses.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: They'll get on the radio and they'll make their call
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: and they'll you know, blah blah blah. But they don't
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: run away. They don't. The Steeler fans don't run away
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: when they're not doing well. And I respect that as
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: annoying as they are. Yeah, you know, uh do they
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I don't. This is the stuff
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: that I do take a backseat to you. I don't
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: listen to the national stuff. You do. Um when they
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: don't run away from it? They call do they make
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: excuses for their team, they get red, Okay, they get mad.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: So they're like Bruins fans. Yeah, they're not blaming the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: rafts or any of that stuff. So they would be
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: more Bruins fans like than Celtics fans. They're Bruins fans
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: would blame Harry Sindon even though he hasn't been involved
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: in thirty years, right, you know, the cheap Bruins Jacobs.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Celtics fans would be like, yeah, the referee screwed us,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever. You know, Tatum actually did score and
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: they said it didn't go in. You know, like that's
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: a Celtics fan. Look at it, right, Alex, you know it.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Celtics are perfect. You know it? You green teamer I am.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I think actually this year, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: It's there's the reasons against all of them. I mean,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: and the whole thing with the Bengal sucks because that's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: really the only reason why I'm kind of annoyed with them.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: But I just I think the Chiefs annoy me more
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: than anybody. And like even like did you see last week,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: like their whole little like ownership thing, which looked like,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just all like button up, like you know,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: guys that sing carols swinging together. It's like it's I
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's just it looks like a TV show
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: going on. An owner. I was an owner, I know that,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Like I probably couldn't do this, But if I was
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: an owner, I would sit alone watch maybe like one
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: or two other people, but don't get near me. You know.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be like the thing, you know
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: during the game. I just want to watch it. I'm
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: fully you know, Well that's why. I thought it was
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: funny when we brought that guy Jerry into town and
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: he got to sit next to mister Craft, and I'm like,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: what's that experience? Like you got to sit next to
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: the owners going through like, you know, kind of a
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: tumultuous game. It's like ups and downs and you know
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: you're kind of looking over your shoulder the whole time,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: like no one. Yeah, I would not want to be
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: around people if I owned the team. That Chiefs thing,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: it's so weird. It's like their whole liked I like,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I liked it. I really respect the Chiefs. I liked
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I like what Andy Reid does. I like how he
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: I think he's a lot like Bill and I respect
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: the way he puts the program together. I would have
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: no problem with the three of the three of the teams,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: which means San Francisco will win the chance. You don't
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: want San France. I don't want them because I just
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: hate the whole like narrative of Kyle Shannighan, it just
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: bugs me about John Lynch. I don't know anything against
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: John Lynch. I don't like the way it comes down
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: to the field at the end of the game. That
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: was quick last week, though, I will say that, yeah,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: he got down their fat like they the elevator like
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: we do. They showed him upstairs and then all of
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: a sudden, like the next clip was him on the sideline.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Well I wonder if that was filming. Could have been yeah, yeah,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: could have been, right, But yeah, I have reasons to
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: hate all of them, but at least hate. You have
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: reasons to hate all all of the other thirty one teams.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: But like, your team's out, So who Yeah, you know
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: who are you rooting for? I hate Or. I'm rooting
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: and I know why and I'm not arguing with you,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: but I'm rooting for Borrow. I'm rooting for Cincinnati. I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: like Borrow, but the two bad he's on that team?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um Dave and Bangor. I think Bill prided
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: himself on finding hidden talent and unlikely places and desperately
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: wants to prove that the dynasty was not all tom uh,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: such as strange draft picks. No pun intended in naming
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Matty p and Joe Judge to coach the offense. This
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: one blew up in his face and cost him the season.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: With that said, in the article that just came out,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: do you think Bill has lost the locker room. Do
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: you think he'll want to move on from Max start
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: over with a clean slate. I don't think he's lost
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the locker room. Mean, even the most damning quote in
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: this piece is but you know, in the words of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: one of the sources, I love coach Belichick, but he
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: fed us Like I think he made a mistake. I
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: think the players and realize he made a mistake, but
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they've decided he can no longer
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: be in charge of us. Yeah, well, based on the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: move and bringing Bill O'Brien and showing that ready to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: make the change and ready to hit the reset button.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: And I mean if if I mean, I'm not hoping
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: that MAMT. Patricia is not bad. I don't really have
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: a horse on that. But if he was not back,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I would see that even more as like an attempt
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: to say last year was last year. We got new coaches,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: We're have a new system now we're couldn't put that
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: behind us and move on? Uh speaking, freds know about
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: me defending Patricia, He says, Fred, if Paul agreed to
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: be your videographer or a latex salesman or whatever thing,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: he's unqualified for it would be largely on him for
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: taking the job. I sort of agree with that. That's
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: a specially true for Patricia, who, unlike Paul, probably doesn't
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: need the money so bad. The name calling crap is
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: unnecessarily cruel. But there's no need for a thank you. Okay,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: that's your opinion. No, but I agree with that premise
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: that if you asked me to do something that I
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: know I can't do, I would say, fred, I can't
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: do that. I don't have that. I don't know how.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe he thought he could. That's so therefore it's on him,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: but Bill should know better. I still say that also
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: regardings and it's Bills. It's just like Bill said, ultimately
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: it's my fault. It's on me. Also regarding Evan's take
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, sure, Josh Allen's disappointing postseason should be considered
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: a blight on his resume, and the same is true
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: for Lamar's track record. But it seems kind of petty
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: to piece together apologies for Mac and One Breath while
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: slushing Josh Allen's fans in the next I just want
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: on the record that Evan spent like after that Bill's
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: game was telling everyone about how nice Josh Allen was
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: to him in the hallway, and it just became a
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: running joke. So I was very shocked when he came
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: in on Tuesday and had all those takes. Plus he's
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: been really good in the playoffs. He played really bad
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: last Sunday, Like, can't that be okay? I don't you know?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: We have to ignore Tom Brady's three interception playoff games
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: because he's Tom Brady. I mean, I've gotten to watch
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen in person here a few times now. I
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: think he's awesome, Like I have so much. I think
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: he's got his warts like most, but he's awesome. He's
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: been a guy that everybody When I say everybody, Fred
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: please yeah, I'm just talking about the people. A lot
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: of people around here from the start were convinced that
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: this guy was a bozo who could never learn how
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: to get it done. And then he learned how to
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: get it done. So now a lot of those same
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: people are just waiting every time he does not come
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: through in a big So. I heard a guy today
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: say something about on the radio and I figured who
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: it was. Um, they were talking about It's he was
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: kind of he he kind of they were comparing him
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers, I think, which I thought this was
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: really funny. And they said, like Aaron Rodgers when he
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: needs to make the plays, he still was able to
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: make the plays, kind of like the opposite of Josh Allen.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Like now Josh Allen's not good in the clutch, like
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: because he lost at home to Cincinnati. And again that
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of people thought the Bengals could win going
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: in right, I mean, everybody thought that was going to
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: be I did until you talk to me about talking.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I took the blame. I took the blame. What do
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: you want me to do? We got picks today too,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: don't we forgot? We will at the time we got
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: two games, just forgot I forgot Jack down the road
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: and Stowton writes in I wanted to address Paul and
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Fred's curiosity about getting food on game day from last
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Thursday last weekend, my wife and I grilled out before
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs game, then set up a crock pot with
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Buffalo chicken dip. The timing worked out perfectly and we
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: were able to have two meals at the start of
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: both games. But if you're going to pick up food
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: in between games. You can go wrong leaving during the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter if the game is virtually over and be
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: able to get back. Uh and eat right before the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: second game. Okay, yeah, I'm out this week anyway, I
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: gotta miss them. Oh really? Yeah? Wow, are you gonna
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: be okay football banquet? I'm gonna be on vacation during
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Oh I'm not going, rub o. Wow. Yeah,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: when I was kind of sweating, Oh yeah, you weren't.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Really if you actually made those arrangements before this season,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: you never you never spent one second sweat out. First
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: of all, I didn't. I made him like in December
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: last year. No this year two, So we swear, Well
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: for a minute there, I said, you know what, we
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: could beat the Bills, and if we beat the Bills,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: and who knows what can happen, might beat the Bengals.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: You're just you're just prone to worry then, because there
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: was never any sniff, no not of beating the Bills
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: that day, but there was never any sniff of them
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: being in the Super Bowl. Well that's me because I'm
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I'm always eternally optimal optimistic. So you made the arrangements
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: in December. Huh, yeah, keep that in mind. Let's find
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: all that one the way I started. Well, you did
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: the same thing, Fred, Yeah, But if if it had
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: come to pass that they did, I would have had
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: to cancel the vacation. Paul would have gone No. I
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: would not have said, Paul, on your vacation because this
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: guy's gay. Uh yeah. My wife was like, I'm going, okay,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: some of us have never taken vacation. You see a
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Ruba coming out without Now that's what I was sweating
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: when I got when I got married, because when when
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: we got engaged and we set the date, the Patriots
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: were like four and five or five and five or something,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: you know, in two thousand and one, it was all
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: of a sudden they never lost again. And I'm like,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: what if this happens next year, I'm dead. It's so funny.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: But it didn't. I didn't make l from Wisconsin. I
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: just wanted to point out an error in Mike's draft analysis.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Don't look at top flight tackles to take at fourteen,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: look at mid round tackles to take at fourteen instead,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks Snark. That was Paul Snark. As for Mac, I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: don't think this past year could be completely thrown out
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: because of the offensive dysfunction. I feel like I saw
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of physical limitations that had nothing to do
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: with the offense. Otherwise, that being said, I'm out on Mac.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Another person out on that. So I'm honestly not sure
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: what he person or one. No, It's unbelievable how we
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: only hear certain things. Fred we did the pole on
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: the show, remember my little pole? I do I hear
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: both sides. You don't hear a lot of I'm out
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: on Mac. You don't hear a lot. I'm honestly not
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: sure what he can do to change my mind. One
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: last thing after the article, I'd be really disappointed in
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Bill if Judge or Patricia are still affiliated with the team.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Everywhere they go seems to turn to disaster nowadays. You know,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: It's another thing I think about too, is I think
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: that this generation of players is probably a lot more
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: affected by all the negative press that Matt, Patricia and
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge received from their previous stops, like all those
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: things that came out, Like, I just think we're so
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: much more involved in the media they started it. Yeahs
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: are very online. Yeah, That's my thing with Mac is
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: this goes back to June when I started hearing this stuff.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: And by the way, we heard this stuff not just
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: on this show, like there were the things that you
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: do when you hear things and that sort of formulates
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: your opinions. And they started it not to sound like
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: a twelve year old in the schoolyard, but the real
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: questioning of what they were doing kind of it emanated
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: with the players. It did, it did, and then it
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: just got to the point of ridiculousness. Every day. That's
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: all everybody talked about. Nayton, Northeast Pennsylvania. This is the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: total offseason email. So sorry in advance. Since we're on
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: the subject of peuisms such as like pointed out by
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Andrew and that email, I just wanted to point out
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: my new favorite Mike phrase. Whether he's responding to a
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: listener email or call, or it's his turn to make
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: a tricky choice in the Weekly Picks, Mike sometimes starts
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: his response off with a deep breath followed by a yes.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: And it's my new favorite something. I think he uses
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: it when he's really indecisive about what to say next
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: or something, but either way, it's gold. It's a it's
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: a deep, deep breath of contemplation. Yeah. Thinking. By the way,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: this is the first time I've had the opportunity to
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: tune in on YouTube. When you first tease the idea,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I thought it was stupid, But here I am watching
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: and enjoying even more. So. Thank you for continuing to
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: try new things and pump out content. I have to
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: give credit. I have to give credit to others because I,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: you know, didn't know if the juice is worth the
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: squeeze to go on YouTube. People like it gonna put
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: on a night shirt and call my hair. Yeah it's
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: not me. I just up, is what you get? Yeah?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Show we're on the T shirt and sweatshirt game. Yeah.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: I you know, I don't want to like come off
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: one way on YouTube and then they see me in
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: them all and I look like a different person. You know.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: I want to be consistent your fans. You got to
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: keep your fans, you know, don't get expectations too high, right, Uh?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Todd and Rochester. Yes, I noticed how quickly Lynch got
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: down to the field, first, showing him in the sweet
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: saying review that last play. Next shot, after the commercial break,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: he's on the sideline clapping after the review is being announced.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: In the forty nine is favor. Yeah, that's what I
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: was saying. Yeah, I don't I don't like that. Maybe
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: as an elevator right from his box, right direct, But
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: why why don't you like that? I don't. I don't.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't care for the owner or I said, the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: owner or the GM coming down to the field at
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: the end of the game. So when Cassari used to
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: do that, you didn't like it? Oh, I don't like it.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he ever did that. I just
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: made that. I don't like it. I'm telling you, I
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: just made it up. The Idaho murderer. It's it's Cassario
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: every time, Tim, thank you for getting I got it.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: Tim writes in pointing out that Jermaine Wiggins is anti Mac.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: That that is true. That is true. He's he's I
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: think he's he's out on Mac. He gets yelled at
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: every show for saying that he has questions about Mac.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: But that's correct. That is so we're up to four
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: media members. I mean I think, I mean, I speak
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: for myself and probably Paul. I mean, I think we're
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: both probably pretty close to out on MAC. But I
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: just I'm realistic and pragmatic about what are you really
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: going to do this year? And I just think that
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: there was I think that he is His play itself
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: has been overlooked because of the level of dysfunction. And
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: I think if you look at the Phil Perry's, the
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Tom Curran's, the Mark Daniels, the Mike Reeses, and the
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Andrew Callahan's, like the Evans, like they're breaking this down
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: and they're telling you Greg Badard, and they're giving you
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: all the reasons why it's not the quarterback's vault. And
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a simplistic way of looking at it.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: And that article backed it up in the art, but
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: no one's even talking about that part of it. I
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: know everybody's only talking about like Joe Judge, Wow, what
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: a raving lunatic. How would you feel if you were
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: openly mocked by the guy before you even started? I'll
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: teach him. Travis Trevine and Huntsville writes in I emailed
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: a few years ago with this game with all four
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks left, which would you like to have for one play,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: one drive, one game, one season, you have to use
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: all four. So the four categories are one play, one drive,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: one game, one season. The quarterbacks are Mahomes, Burrow, Jalen Hurts,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: and I guess Brock Purty if I have to have.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, so the one play has to be Purty,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: because that way I can get him in the hell
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: off before he cost me anything. There you go. Yeah,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: but what if that one play is the last play, Well,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: then I'm screwed. What were the other ones? One drive?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: One drive? One drive? I would say, I don't know.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Mahomes always seems to be like get those like there's
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: only four seconds left and they're down by six, and
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: chuck it down the fields. I think Mahomes for the
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: drive and one game Hurts and then a season Burrow
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Hard with Hurts. I don't I mean, I don't feel
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: like I have a reason to say. This is why
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: I would. I mean, he's a very good player. Yeah,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I think I'm with you, Fred, Yeah, I like Hurts.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: I think I think he's really good. I never thought
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: he would be this um effective as a passer, yep,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: got up close to look a couple of summers ago. Yeah,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: he's really improved as a passer. And I know he's
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: got a good scheme. I know everybody just mocks the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks because they don't matter. It's funny he's got he's
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: got such a presence about him too, Like there's just
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: something about him that he has. I hate swag, but
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: he's kind of got that like leadership, alpha quarterback kind
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: of vibe. I just you know, I was so impressed
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: with the way he handled the benching in the championship game.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Fred and I raved about it after that. Um, I
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: just felt like, that's a guy who's gonna he's gonna
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: succeed no matter what he does in life. I think
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: he learned a lot from that experience too, Just like
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: the shots of seeing him run on the field from
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: that National championship, like smiling and him being like, what,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: I'm a national champion for the rest of my life, Like,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: why would I not be pumped about that? Right? I
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: thought I was really impressive. Sweet kid writes in that
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I was gonna call but forget that. I'm literally praying
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: for a Fred versus Paul fight on video. You'll get
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: it eventually. Yeah, you know, what's what's happened is everything
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: was so dramatically one sided that we can't really fabricate
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: an argument over it. Like Fred's like, you know, like me,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was something that could it's nothing.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: He could say, no, no, no, it wasn't as bad
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: as you thought. Like then we could argue, all right,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: if Fred could sit there and say, now the offense
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't as bad as you thought. Give us so like
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: April when Fred starts talking about, now this offense will
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: be a top three offense in football, because Bill O'Briant said, well,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: we'll get you something, right, Freddie. I just think we've
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: been together through this whole season, and we've watched you know,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: going back to practices, and like I just we all
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: watched the same things, and we all talked about the
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: same things, and you know, there wasn't ever one of
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: us that was like, I don't know, guys, like that
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: was so crazy to me. And I've said this before
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: about training camp. You know, you come out being like
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: does this really matter? Does this really tell us anything?
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: We just watched an hour and a half of them
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: just kind of doing walk through. Does that matter? And
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: this season it seems like yes, it absolutely mattered, and
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: it absolutely was a sign of what was to come
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: and all the drama that was kind of like about
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: to bubble under the surface, like all those things were accurate,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: and it's just it's hard to have like another take.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: When I was side by side with you guys watching
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: those practice, this is like we all saw the same thing, right,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's hard to have an argument
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: when it's so obvious, statistical cutting hair and like in
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: the twenty eight years I've been here, I don't remember
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: like anything that was just so apparent to even the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: layman and that ended up being true. Right, Yeah, Like
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: we could probably have a good argument. Maybe we'll do
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: this in a couple of weeks. We could probably have
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: a good argument about the defense. Yeah, yeah, you know
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: how good was the defen You could probably do it.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: We'll table that one, mel Okay, Neil and new Brunswick.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: If this article is true, and I'm sure some probably
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: most of it is, what I would like to know
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: is did mister Kraft know this stuff before meeting with Bill?
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of coaches would be fired for a situation
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: like this, and Bill has survived, and in that ridiculous
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: press conference, acted like there was no possibility he wouldn't
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: be the coach next year. That still bothers me. I
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: think this is just as much a prove it year
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: for Bill as it is for Mac, and if it's
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: a failed season, will be gone this time next year.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: And although we might not have liked the way he acted,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: we might owe Mack an apology because he seems he
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: was right. Seems he was right. Yeah, I don't think
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: there's any chance that you're gonna get that that that
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: everybody's gone. I just don't see it. That would be
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: something huh, you burn it to the stunts. Yeah, And
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like somewhat this season feels more and I
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: think this is a good thing. Hopefully that this is
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: the direction that it's that it's Bill stepping back a
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: little bit and letting, you know, Bill O'Brien run this offense,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: and you know, letting Gerardmeo take more of a role.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: Not to say that I'm saying I want him to
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: like start to get out of out of being the coach,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: but I think that he'll get more help and it
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: should look better. I hope that there'll be you know,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: less of the mistakes, the stupid stuff that just that
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: he can't have happened. Right. Um, let's see Ernie and
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: east Hardwick Vermont. Um. He said, my expectations last year
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: were six wins. What I didn't calculate was how bad
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: most of the teams in the league really are onto Mac.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I think the Patriots need to move on with him.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: The bad outweighs the good. Another person against him. He
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the arm strength or the side media. It's everybody.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: I listened to everyone. I don't think his character is
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: what we want in a franchise quarterback. A friend once
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: told me people are like a tube of toothpaste when squeezed,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: what his inside will come out? I didn't that's a
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: good one. I didn't like what I saw come out
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: of Mac. One of the things that really bugged me
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: about Mac was him keep telling us that he loved
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: football and was a real competitor. Yet in three or
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: four key situations he ran in, slid a yard or
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: two shy of the first down. Personally, I have seen enough,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: but I will continue to watch whatever. How does the
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: group feel about quarterback Hooker out of Tennessee. He's rehabbing
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: from an acl Okay, I don't know. I don't love him,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: like him, don't love him. I heard like talent wise,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: he could be the best of the bunch, right, I
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: don't think so, But he's the only one. I mean,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, if you're just gonna go like
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: the highest upside with the tremendous like the all around
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: package of skills, m Richardson from Florida is like, I
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: think he's an ultimate boom er Bus guy. Oh yeah,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: what was his deal though? That was? What's what's the
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: knock on him? Well, he didn't play consistently. Well yeah,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: like if you saw, like if you saw some Florida games,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, wow, this guy's going to be a
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: monster in the NFL. And you saw others and like
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: they couldn't move the ball at all. Yeah, like from
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: one week to the next, you never knew what you
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: were gonna get. Brad. And he's but he's big, can
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: run like a ridiculous arm, but just no consistency, no refinement. Brad.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Three wishes for next season. One can I please see
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: the play coming into the quarterback before the play clock
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: hits fifteen seconds left? UM fifty two tackles that actually
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: know what the snap count is, and three of the
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: team knows what the focus of the offense is going
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: to be. Starting day one of the training camp, we
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: are we a throw to run, run to throw or
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: rpo and then tell me the team, Tell the team
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: to shut up, learn your plays, and go do it.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: I felt like that was never made clear to the team. Okay, yeah, no, yes,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: let's see David and Maine. Lots of emails coming in.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: You know, you're still going to be a game plan
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: offense because that's what Bill believes in. So you're not
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: going to get the answers to those questions. Yeah, if
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: we throw to run maybe this week, right, maybe next week,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: you're going to be, you know, the other way around.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: David and Maine being out of the playoffs suck. Sucks. Also,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Paul reminded me of something on Tuesday that I was
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: trying to understand salary cap and actual spend. Maybe mcgal
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: can help too. I would definitely go to him. Yeah,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: on something specific to the cap. I guess I've been
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: ignorant to the fact that some teams spend more cash
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: than others and don't just try to meet the salary cap.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Is this similar to baseball in small markets? To the
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Crafts not spend cash as much as other teams. According
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: to Bill, they don't. Yeah, I mean Bills the one
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: that talked about that they were twenty seventh and cash
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: bending the last three years, yea, which is the significant number.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: I mean that shows you how much teams are, you know,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: willing to go out and really put your money where
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: your mouth is to get those guys rather than oh yeah,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: and you're I mean, but you're gonna be playing Devin
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: mccordy at like twenty twenty six. He's going to be
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: on the cap of like dead money. You're starting to
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: think he's coming back. No, No, I haven't. I haven't
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: really him talking so much about like I haven't the
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: inner workings of what's going on is that because I
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: think you can make an argument both ways, Like to
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: you a point, he wouldn't be talking about what he
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: thinks of Bill O'Brien's arrival if he was coming back. Yeah,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: do you think like making his own Twitter account finally?
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah and follow really? Yeah? Do you think at this
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: point Bill cares about those quotes come from? UM? I
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: would hope he's not wasting any time worrying about that
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: and just his time trying to fix it. Yeah, let
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: it get out there. It was what it was, and
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: let's like move on. But I mean, I yeah, good
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: with Paul, you know, to try to, like now ferret
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: out who's talking to the media, and you know, all
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: though I don't, I don't think that's gonna be very fruitful.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Um rich in Santa Cruz apropos of nothing in today's show.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: But I was thinking of while taking a shower after surfing,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: that Fred's soap savor idea, if sponsored by the NFL,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: could be called the slot Receiver. I think Julian Edelman
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: and West Welker could do the marketing together. I love it.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: I love it. That's gonna be our first on video
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: fight between you guys. Going to go back into that conversation,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: oh time you were probably not even born yet started. Well,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: that was my first show. And it's like when I
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: was asked and I was like, what the hell did
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: I just walk into merchandise in the very first Patriots
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: unfiltered pockets? Right, the slot receiver receiver? Um, Although taking
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: a shower, that could have a lot of different kind
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: of tent. I don't know perfect. That's why we like it. Um,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: let's see. Eric writes in from El Paso, what are
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: the benefits of having our coach staff coach the Senior Bowl?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Actually it's the Shrine Bowl. Plus y' all think we
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: go towards a defense in mind draft or an offense draft, Well,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: I think. I mean, they got to Marcus Coverington at
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and they have the great majority of
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: the staff at the Shrine Bowls. I mean, I think
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to coach prospects. And I mean we
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: were talking about content and covering it, and you know,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: my question was, what's it like in a situation like
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: this where you probably have scouts at the Shrine Bowl
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: they have prospects that they like, and now your coaches
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: have interacted with them on the field, they've coached them,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: you know, so you might get an even more you know,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: thorough evaluation of some of these players because not only
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: have your scouts scouted them, but you've had coaches that
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: have had direct interactions with them. As far as the
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: offense defense, offense, I mean it's you know, I think
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: they have to they have to add some some significant
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: talent on that side of the ball this offseason. Another
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: person who wants to move on from Mac chat in Atlanta.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: How long have we got to have to wait until
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: the realization that Mac really is just someone who can
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: play quarterback in this league another year and a half.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Bill's words, not mine. Are we really gonna have to
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: wait until Mac has a perfect old line the oc
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: he needs a plethora of weapons in place, only then
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: to realize what's been apparent. I'm if I'm Bill, I'm
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: not waiting for Mac to have a utopia to play
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: in before I move on. I mean, I see, Paul,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: they're out there. They're people are gonna write in for negative.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there, I'm telling you find me the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: media people who think like that, we don't care. I'm
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: talking about our fans are more important to me than
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: what the media things. Oh that's that's nice of you, pandering.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: I care more about what fans think. It's like Andy's
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: like Andy Hart yesterday on Twitter. Right, Oh, so evidently
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, the Bill's GM, doesn't want to suck that line,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to suck bad enough to get Jamar Chase,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: you know, to someone like Jamar Chase. And Andy Hart
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: retweets and goes, well, how'd you get Josh Allen? Well,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, made about four trades to move from
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: twenty one to seven to draft him. In other words,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: they didn't suck bad enough to get Josh Allen Andy like, yeah,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: you don't have to jump through hoops to pander to
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: the Patriots fans, which the thing that cracks me up.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: And Fred will will vouch me on this. There was
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: nobody more negative than that when he sat in New Yorgia. Yeah,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden he's on EI and people
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: will you know, yeah, come no, that whole station is
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: gearing up for Adam Jones. Oh yeah, it's gonna be
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: like the launch now they've got. But that's the whole
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: station is that they're the counter to the quote unquote
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: negative station of the Hall, right, but they're gonna have
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: their negative guys, so they're all honing their their game
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: to play against him. How does Felger feel about Uh,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: this is young. I mean they had such a fun relationship,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: like I always love when Adam will come on, and
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Felger was just so being by them, like how we
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: would take it. And now now they're up against each other.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Joe Murray, who is I don't know if he's officially
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: going to be the new night guy, but he's been
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: doing nights since Adam left and he's very much in
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: that mold. He just talks about food and gambling more
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: than everybody else. But yeah, like again, I know you
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: always say, like, see they're out there. Yes, I understand
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: there are some people out there. The vast majority of
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: the analysis is that it's all Matt Patricia and this
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: is all gonna get fixed magically. Right now. Now, I'm
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: telling you what's going to happen is they're gonna have
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: largely the same cast of characters on offense, and then
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: that will be the excuse you got to give them weapons.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: See what they did with Stefan Diggs, See what they
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: did with Jama Chase, See what they did with Jalen
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Waddle and Tyreek Hill. That's what's gonna happen. Yeah, I
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: just feel like they got to add somebody, you know,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: and and I'm sure that we probably could have the bait.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: They've added the wrong guy. But you know, with Agalore
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: hitting free agency, with Myers, free agencies, like moves have
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: to happen at those spots. So I just hope that
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: they have somebody somehow, whether it's a first rookie, They're
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: gonna add some somebody, even in the DeVante Parker Like
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: all right, it's not exactly what I wanted, but he's okay.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you have to have wide if it's
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: going to be on the team, you want to have
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: knee jerk analysis. Of the four remaining teams, three great
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the one that doesn't has great talent. Right,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: you were in upstairs when we were talking about this yesterday, Right, Yeah,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, you can. You can sit back
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: and you can say, see Brock Purdy, mister irrelevant. Yeah, Like,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: think about how difficult it is to do it that way,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: and think about the level of player of George Kittle,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: uh Deebo, Samuel nick Bosa, Dre Greenlaw won't he won't,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Fred Fred warn not going to mention McCaffrey. They didn't
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: draft him. I'm talking about how hard it is to
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: not just draft players that played for you, which a
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: lot of teams can do. Yeah, because a lot of players,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams will just play the guys they draft.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about guys who are at the very top
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: of their profession at what they do that they drafted. Yeah,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: that's so hard. Now, McCaffrey, that just adds to Brandon
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: and a Yuk. I would throw in that draft category
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: like McCaffrey just adds to an already stacked roster. Trent
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: Williams I didn't mention either. Trent Williams. A lot of
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: people think is maybe the best left tackle to ever
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: play the game, but they didn't draft him. So that's
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: why I didn't include him. Okay, you can do that
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: to build a team, and yeah, you could probably win
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: with virtually anybody playing quarterback, although I would argue they haven't.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: They until now. They've only won when Jimmy plays quarterback.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: Now Brock Purdy has been able to go seven and
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: all or whatever he is. But that team is absolutely loaded.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: All Right, A couple of quick calls and then we're
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: gonna get to picks. Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey, fellows, lady,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: how y'all doing doing well? Doing the draft? I said
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't want mc jones in the first place. I
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: remember he's the guy I remember you didn't want. Yeah,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: um My thing is this, Chicago got first pick, trade
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: back to the Raiders for the first try to get
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: filled for a sucker, and then get those two gets,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: those two man corners. That's gonna be in the draft
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: because those tackles gonna be gone before we get there.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Four team, What can we come back over the trade?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: What are we trading get a sucking a third? No? No, no, not?
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: What are the Patriots trading mac Jones to the Raiders? Okay,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: in exchange for Waller? Maybe I'll sucker. Now you didn't
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: gonna get Walling went fro Now get the first either, Yeah,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: but you might get a sucker, top sucker. Maybe they're
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of man corners and them sucking
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: in thirty fourth round. But the best one is gonna
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: be in the first one. The guy from Illinois and
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: the other guy I think he's from I forgot the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: other And who's our quarterback? Good press man corn corners corner? No,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: but who's our quarterback? We trade mac Jones pray for field?
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: But what are you going to trade for? What are
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: you going to trade to Chicago for fields? Ellie's elp,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Vegas's first rounder? Maybe they first Maybe to suck it.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: But like you guys pay attention to this stuff more
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: than I do. End up with Justin Field somehow. Oh yeah, no,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I could be talked into that. Thank you
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: guys know this stuff more than I do with Chicago,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: Like really contemplating that, I know why, trading fields and
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: taking a quarterback with that pick, that's crazy. I'd also
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: wonder if you really think Josh McDaniels wants to trade
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: for Mac. You know that seems like really you didn't
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: know that they hugged after the game John at Duxbury.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: What's und I mean, that's why Johndre Hopkins to make
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: Okay number one. But looking at some of those mock drafts,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: and I would be okay with them taking Michael Maya
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: from the I'm sure you guys have seen a play
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: the tight end from note to Dame who was an
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: excellent player, uh and then getting the back color O'Connor
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: in the second round. What do you guys feel about that?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be totally opposed to it. I mean, I
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: think it falls under my feeling of you just you
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: just need weapons, and you need as much as you
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: have tight ends. I think you know you're gonna probably
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: lose at least one of them in the next year.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: And I think he has the potential to be, you know,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: a real kind of game changer as a tight end.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: So as much as you want it like a really
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: stud wide receiver. I think he could potentially, Yeah, I
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: hear you do the kind of worthy of being tested.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, you know, it's this Paul said, thanks.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: You need you need to and I think even the
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: playoffs recently of you know, even if it's not like
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: one of those elite number twos, like maybe you would
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: call t Higgins like, you just need guys who are
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: going to be effective in the big spots. And it's
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: somewhere to go when you're big guy, isn't having a
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: big gamer? All right? Getting okay? So all right, it's
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: that time of the week, all right, Paul, what happened
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: last week? Well, young Evan at four and all set
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: the pace in the overall last week, Fred and Paul
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: three and one, right behind and Mike two and two.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: With the spread, Evan was three and one, Paul and
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: Fred were two and two, and Mike was one and three.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: So the playoffs standings, Paul and Evan tied at eight
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: and two, Mike and Fred right behind at seven and
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: three overall with the spread, we got to really pick
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: up our games, boys, Paul, no surprise, has less work
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: to do to catch up five and five, Evan and
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Fred four and six, Mike three and seven? What are
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: you doing? I just let your dog pick, all right.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: So that's where we stand after after two rounds. Okay, Alex,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: will you be partaking? Okay? All right? So we started
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: three I heard I won. A few weeks I eliminated.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: I eliminated the Alex column. I had the column here
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: set up for Alex and then it's like she doesn't
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: come anywhere. Three o'clock on Sunday on Fox h thirt
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: e four forty nine ers or at the fourteen and
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: three Eagles, Eagles by two and a half, by two
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: and a half. Ah, yeah, I think I picked against
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: San Francisco last week. I thought it would come down
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Dak played terribly, So it didn't. I
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: guess it. Maybe it kind of did. But I'm gonna
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: go with the same kind of philosophy. I think that
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be The Eagles are better at the quarterback
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: position with Jalen Hurts, and that is going to be
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: the difference. I'll take the Eagles. I'll lay the points
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: Eagles both ways. I'm gonna take the Eagles as well.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: This is more of a pick with my heart than
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: my head. I just I don't know, I'm rooting against
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: the Niners. I think if you use your head, I
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: rock parties runs over. You know. I think he was
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: exposed a little bit last week and that continues this week. Yeah. Well,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: I know we had great numbers against Seattle. I don't
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: think he played that well in that game, especially in
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: the first half. Yeah. I think if you can get
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: some pressure on him and not allow them to run wild. Yeah,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: I mean the the the key here is San Francisco's
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: great defense. I mean, yes, both teams defense. You know,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: they could keep it a game just because of their defense.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: But I think clear advantage hurts. And there you know,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: so you got Philly. I got Philly both ways. Six
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: thirty on CBS, The twelve and four Bengals are at
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: the fourteen and three Chiefs Bengals by one. Um. Mahomes
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: was a full participant yesterday. Haven't been on Twitter today
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: to see what's going on. I saw the clip of him,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: you know, talking at the podium walking off. Yeah. I
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: don't like put any stock in any of that. Someone
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: was like, maybe it wasn't even Mahomes, and I'm like,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I didn't you see how his head? What
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: did you see him? His head was straight to the side,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: So it was definitely Mahomes. Um. But the people in
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: Vegas literally still have some questions because the Bengals are
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: a road favorite. What do you think if Mahomes is
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent the spread would be yea three? Yeah,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: two and a half three, much like the other game.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: So as probably any everybody figures, I'm gonna take Cincinnati
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow hard to pick against him. I just
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: I think Mahomes is still going to be limited. Um,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: and it's it's not going to be enough. The Bengals
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: are playing and fuego. I got a Bengals Eagles super Bowl.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: I also have Bengals Eagles super Bowl. It's going to
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: set up I think the most watched super Bowl ever
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: from the female demographic. Wow. And I'm gonna give since
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: he the points to who Jalen Hurts. I'm intrigued by this.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts elite talent with
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: the female demographic. Paul Paul learned, he learned me something.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: He learns me something every show. It doesn't speak often,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: but when she does, he's not purty. Um, Let's give
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: him some time to grow a little more. But uh no,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: those two guys are Joe Borrow in the talents, Jay Hurt.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, good looking guys. I mean
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: he still does look a little bit like grown up
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Macaulay Culkin. Joe Burrow should have looked like when he's goofy.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: Look Brow, Do you think he's goofy? No, I think
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: he's a good looking guy. But I think he has
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a goofball kind of looked, you
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I don't get the goopaul things.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think sometimes he's he's a
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: little out there. But Macaulay called Jalen Hurts like an
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely good look on your type. Even even Marine Corps
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: mad Is is nodding. He's gonna have to push away
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: from the Taborrows. It's too girly. Faith has absolutely no
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: idea what you got herself? It is they're both top too,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, I can absolutely see. Remember calm down, hey, Mike,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Remember when I have to go to the bathroom. I
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: saw TikTok and Joe Burrow talking about like just going
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: down rabbit holes on YouTube about is X and I
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: was just like, oh, he likes first two. Yeah you
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: said going. I thought that was going in another direction.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I am also with Cincinnati in this game,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: by the way, Um, I'm with the Chiefs. Yeah. I
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: do have a little fear of Patrick Mahomes is a
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: home dog. I think it's only the second time. You know.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: The other thing, are we not giving enough credit to
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense, especially up front? I don't think the
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: Chiefs defense is all that, you know. Yeah, so Paul
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: clearly isn't giving any credit. I'm not. No, I don't
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: think they're bad. I don't think Buffalo's defense is bad either.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: They eviscerated it last week, so you know, I think
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: that they'll probably play more man than Buffalo traditionally does.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: But I think Buffalo was kind of forced to do
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: that last week because of their personnel issues. But Chris
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: Jones is awesome. Chris Jones is a defensive Player of
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: the Year candidate. And if that issue that I thought
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: was going to happen last week with Cincinnati's offensive line,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: if that takes place, Fred will be right. He'll have
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: that that defensive line. That's a good key it's capable
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: of recond at a point. This is definitely a tho.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: This is who I want to win, pick, not who
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: I think is gonna win. I'm going with the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: I won't be upset off the Chiefs win, and whoever
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: wins the AFC game i'll root for. In the super Bowl,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: I'm for the Eagles line. I'll be upset when they
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: have a little family like group hug and everyone's all
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: dressed up like I never saw anybody. I never saw
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: anybody get upset at other people's successes. Like Mike oh no,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: oh man, it was just the same. It's just like,
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, doesn't everybody like him. He looks like
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: he's enjoying it. He was drummed out of Hollywood. He
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: looks like a lot of resistent right, he looks like
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: he's enjoying it. I don't care for that. He's got
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: resentment all those people who made it freaking with the
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: whole family. What are they the Hunts get out, the
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Hunts out? What have they ever done? Right? Yellow, I'm
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: just imagining them like all ob they're going shopping for like, oh,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: this is the perfect red color. If you're my Chief
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: and dress some yellow. I'll look Chief season. He just
• 2:00:00
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• 2:00:02
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• 2:00:04
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• 2:00:07
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• 2:00:14
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