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Doug Marrone Show: Thursday, August 27 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show,
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Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Lockman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
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Speaker 1: Show starts right now and Welcome into The Doug Morone Show,
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Speaker 1: Vehicles J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lockman no head coach. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: we've got the g M. Dave Caldwell joining us from
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Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field. David's good to see it,
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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, appreciate it. We'll get to Dave
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Speaker 1: Caldwell coming up in just a moment. The Jaguars General
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Speaker 1: manager joining us on the program today. Logs, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's been a busy day around t I A. Bank
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Speaker 1: Field and you know, um, they had the team vote
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Speaker 1: this morning. They decided to go practice today. It's the
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Speaker 1: big story line around the league. A lot of teams
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Speaker 1: are did not practice is the last day or so,
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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars did today and it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: conversation point moving forward. Her loves Yeah, I don't think
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Speaker 1: it it's gonna be ending anytime soon. And uh, and
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Speaker 1: rightly so. I mean, if the players want to create
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Speaker 1: actionable change, then that's something that needs to continue to happen,
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Speaker 1: and they need to continue to be at the forefront
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Speaker 1: of the topic and in too, in some ways, lead
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Speaker 1: the discussion. But I also think that there are ways
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Speaker 1: and there are people that the players can lean on
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Speaker 1: to help them make what are is going to be
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Speaker 1: the best decisions really to take going forward, because I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is a complicated thing, you know, JP, if you
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Speaker 1: think about it for a minute, you know that locker
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Speaker 1: room is diverse. In the locker room also has a
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Speaker 1: lot of young men. When I was years old, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know what the best way to be or or
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Speaker 1: the best course of action would be in a lot
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Speaker 1: of just regular scenarios for an individual. But man, you
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Speaker 1: talk about something that's as big as some of these
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Speaker 1: social issues. Man, that that's that's big, you know. And
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Speaker 1: so so I understand a lot of the hesitation players
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's the best way to handle this,
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Speaker 1: you know, do we not practice, do we protest? Do
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Speaker 1: we do we not play a game? Uh, it's a
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Speaker 1: complex situation, and I don't think there's any simple answers.
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Speaker 1: Dave calledwell Jaguars general manager joining us on today's Doug
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Speaker 1: Morone Show. Can you hear us now, Dave, I can
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Speaker 1: hear you loud and clear. Oh, we appreciate you coming
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Speaker 1: on today. Let's We've got plenty to talk about with you,
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Speaker 1: of course for the next half hours, so we'll get
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Speaker 1: into Yeah, we hear you clearly. We'll we'll get into
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Speaker 1: a lot of the players that we're planning on leaning
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Speaker 1: on this year. But let's start with the news today, Dave.
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Speaker 1: The events that happened this morning. The players voted to
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Speaker 1: practice and apparently, according to Chris Connelly, was a close vote.
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Speaker 1: How challenging is a day like this for the organization?
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Speaker 1: And and what did you learn about the football team today? Well?
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Speaker 1: I learned that they're they're united, and I think that's
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Speaker 1: the most important thing. And there there is power in
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Speaker 1: numbers and with our players, and everything was thought out
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Speaker 1: very well. Um. You know, coach Marron Um had a
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Speaker 1: big meeting with the players, Marcus Polar players had only
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Speaker 1: meeting and they came to the vote that they would practice.
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Speaker 1: And even the guys have voted against practice decide to practice.
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Speaker 1: So I'm really proud that they did it, and whatever
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Speaker 1: they did, they did it together. Boy day, what an
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Speaker 1: incredibly challenging year for so many different reasons. I mean,
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Speaker 1: to start out with, you you have a lot of
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Speaker 1: change within the organization. Then you have, oh, by the way,
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Speaker 1: a global pandemic, and then you have social issues, and
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Speaker 1: and then really as you approached training camp, you really
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Speaker 1: didn't even know what to expect. I mean, the ground
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Speaker 1: rules really weren't laid until I don't want to say
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Speaker 1: last minute, but I mean the NFL was certainly utilizing
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Speaker 1: every time that they could to make sure that they
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Speaker 1: were making the right decisions about I mean, holy cow,
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Speaker 1: what a turbulent year. Yeah, that's why I'm doing this show.
4:18
Speaker 1: They said this was Tito's happy hours, so I said, well,
4:20
Speaker 1: I need some Tito's uh jokingly but uh but in
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Speaker 1: all seriousness, it has been. But you know, that's our
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Speaker 1: job and and the challenges. You know, we can't we
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Speaker 1: cancer come to the challenges. And and this goes back
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Speaker 1: to before the draft and and talking with our staff
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Speaker 1: and our our direct reports and our coaching staff, and
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Speaker 1: we had a feeling that the NFL was going to
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Speaker 1: go on as planned, and we said we got to
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Speaker 1: find a reason and and and find a way to
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Speaker 1: do this, uh and not make excuses. And UM, so far,
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Speaker 1: I'm really pleased with everybody in the organization that, um,
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Speaker 1: we're finding new and improved ways of of doing our
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Speaker 1: business and uh, just like this radio show that we're
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Speaker 1: doing remotely and it's been really good. Yeah, it's just
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Speaker 1: been a it's been a big challenge, I think in
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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. And I don't think the
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Speaker 1: challenge has been any bigger than it has probably been
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Speaker 1: then for head coach Doug Maron. I mean, he's the
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Speaker 1: guy that that's handling the players on the day to
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Speaker 1: the basis as well as you are. But talk about
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Speaker 1: that relationship with you and Doug. And in a year
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Speaker 1: in which social distancing has kind of been the requirement,
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Speaker 1: that it's got to be odd. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: it probably has brought you guys closer, hasn't it. It has?
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Speaker 1: And and I give coach coach Brown a ton of credit.
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Speaker 1: He's finally doing the things that he wants to do
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Speaker 1: with this team, and he's you know, the players are
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Speaker 1: really happy and excited about playing football here, players that
5:50
Speaker 1: have been here, players from other teams that have come
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Speaker 1: here and um, you know, the things that we've been
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Speaker 1: through the last two years and the reputation that we
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Speaker 1: may have had as an organization, and players coming they're like, Wow,
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Speaker 1: I'm loving football again. I'm loving being here. And and
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Speaker 1: the schedule of coach of Moron has put together has
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Speaker 1: been really good. And I give him a lot of credit.
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Speaker 1: He is the CEO of the team and and he
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Speaker 1: takes care of the day to day stuff with the players.
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Speaker 1: I'm here, obviously to support his culture and what he
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Speaker 1: wants to do, and support the players with whatever they need,
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Speaker 1: and support our coaches and and that's that's my role
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Speaker 1: in season, is to be a support for him and
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the players and and it's really
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Speaker 1: his team and the players and their vision to take
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Speaker 1: this to the next level. Dave Colwell with US Jaguars
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Speaker 1: general manager here on the Doug Morons Show. Final Thought here.
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Speaker 1: As we opened with you, Dave, you know we mentioned
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Speaker 1: the pandemic and all the changes in the building. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people behind the scenes that have
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Speaker 1: made that process maybe not smooth, But I don't know
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Speaker 1: how how smooth that process can be to change everything
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Speaker 1: in the building. But UM, take us through the folks
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Speaker 1: on your staff on a daily basis over the last
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Speaker 1: few months that have prepared things for players to be
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Speaker 1: in the building. And now that the players are in
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Speaker 1: the building, they can execute and and not have to
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Speaker 1: worry about as much. Everything come in to COVID nineteam well.
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Speaker 1: I really start with our operations staff and Halmasa and
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Speaker 1: his group UH combined with our video staff, we we
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Speaker 1: created UH rooms where our players can social distance. We
7:22
Speaker 1: created m a a place where Coach Moron can do
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Speaker 1: his meetings remotely from his office so we don't have
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Speaker 1: to do team meetings. UM and our video department or
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Speaker 1: i T departments done a tremendous job of getting the
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Speaker 1: technology that we we needed in place to be able
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Speaker 1: to do to those meetings remotely. To keep the social
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Speaker 1: distancing intact, UM, we've rearranged the meeting rooms to put
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Speaker 1: the maybe some of the rooms where offensive line where
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Speaker 1: there's more players. We combined the rooms and knocked down
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Speaker 1: some walls and it really did a nice job there.
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Speaker 1: And then our training staff and making sure you know,
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Speaker 1: the cleaning the cleaning crews at night. Our training is
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Speaker 1: half and our I c O. Cassie at how they've
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Speaker 1: done tremendous work in terms of making sure this is
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Speaker 1: as as sanitary as a place for people to come
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Speaker 1: to work and get tested on a daily basis. And
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Speaker 1: it's been really impressive to see um, not only um
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Speaker 1: what everybody's put forward to keep our players and our
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Speaker 1: our staff healthy, but also to see the players take
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Speaker 1: ownership of it too, and wearing their masks and and
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Speaker 1: practicing the social distance. And we get reports every day
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Speaker 1: of maybe some meetings that go too long or too
8:29
Speaker 1: close to each other, and and uh, we're looking at
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Speaker 1: as a competition. Well, we don't want to be the
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Speaker 1: worst in the league with with our high risk contacts,
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Speaker 1: so we all take a challenge and trying to do
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Speaker 1: the right thing. Hey, let's come back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick with Jeff Lagerman no head coach this week. The
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Speaker 1: general manager is in Dave Caldwell joins us from from
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Speaker 1: t I A bank Field and let's get to football. Now.
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Speaker 1: Let's start obviously with a quarterback position here. Year two
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Speaker 1: for Gardner? Minshew, what kind of directive did he get
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Speaker 1: in the off season? And you know, we saw a
11:39
Speaker 1: bunch of video of him doing workouts and then all
11:42
Speaker 1: of a sudden he comes back. He looks a little,
11:44
Speaker 1: a little stronger. How different of a player do you
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Speaker 1: expect him to be this year? And how much of
11:50
Speaker 1: a challenge will it be with a new offense with Gardner? Sure,
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Speaker 1: I don't think there was any actual directive for him,
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Speaker 1: And I think he's a type of player that needs
12:01
Speaker 1: a lot of directive. He's he's a self starter, um,
12:04
Speaker 1: and he realized once we trade Nick Foles that he
12:07
Speaker 1: had a tremendous opportunity to put his best foot forward
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Speaker 1: and become the starter of this team and at least
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Speaker 1: compete for that, not knowing what we do in free
12:15
Speaker 1: agency and throughout the draft. And uh, I don't think
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Speaker 1: he was gonna let this opportunities passing by. And it
12:21
Speaker 1: didn't matter who was going to come in here and
12:22
Speaker 1: compete with him, he was gonna seize the opportunity well
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Speaker 1: and Uh, he's still a young quarterback, David, He's got
12:31
Speaker 1: a lot of growth, and having an offensive line that
12:34
Speaker 1: that raises their level of play has got to be
12:36
Speaker 1: imperative for your offense this year, especially when you've got
12:40
Speaker 1: a new offense with Jay Gruden taken over his offensive coordinator.
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Speaker 1: The offensive line from from my eyes, especially Cam Robinson
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Speaker 1: at left tackle, looks like they're taking some steps to
12:50
Speaker 1: get better. Yeah, it's been really good to see. And
12:54
Speaker 1: when you watch practice on a daily basis, those guys
12:56
Speaker 1: are firing off the ball, they're they're in sync that
12:59
Speaker 1: they're communicating really well. Coach Warhop and coach Soprano have
13:02
Speaker 1: done a really nice job of coaching those guys up
13:05
Speaker 1: and and you gotta give a lot of credit to
13:07
Speaker 1: those guys and guys like A. J. Cann I think
13:09
Speaker 1: is having his best camp, Andrew Norwell, Jowan Taylor coming
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Speaker 1: to a second year. And then obviously, like you said,
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Speaker 1: the big question is Cam Robinson UH and his UH
13:18
Speaker 1: and his fourth year but finally healthy. You know, people
13:21
Speaker 1: don't realize he didn't have any training camp last year.
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Speaker 1: He was coming off in a c L. He missed
13:25
Speaker 1: the first two games and he really didn't really work
13:28
Speaker 1: himself into a healthy player until about three corps away
13:31
Speaker 1: of the season, so he missed a lot. He's taking
13:34
Speaker 1: advantage of his opportunity now. And you know, the key
13:37
Speaker 1: is to keep those guys healthy and keep them together
13:40
Speaker 1: and hopefully they're in sync come the season. But if
13:43
Speaker 1: they get just a little bit better as it collectively
13:45
Speaker 1: of his group, we're gonna be a good offense. Yeah.
13:48
Speaker 1: I know that that. You were there watching the one
13:50
Speaker 1: on one pass role that I was watching with my
13:53
Speaker 1: eyes earlier in the week, and it was Cam against
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and Josh had been having such an amazing camp.
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Speaker 1: He's been stressed everybody and pass rushing and holy col
14:03
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson shut him down twice. And it was good
14:05
Speaker 1: to see because you know, when you got two talented players,
14:08
Speaker 1: you want to see one guy win some and then
14:10
Speaker 1: have the other guy win some so that you feel
14:12
Speaker 1: good about it. Yeah, now that is that. That is
14:16
Speaker 1: interesting and from a general manager standpoint, And when you're
14:19
Speaker 1: watching was one on once and you're like, you don't
14:22
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know who. Sometimes I like a
14:25
Speaker 1: stalemate too and see them both compete. But um, the
14:28
Speaker 1: one thing you want to do is make sure they
14:29
Speaker 1: stay healthy. And I look at when you got Czi
14:31
Speaker 1: Henderson going against Labisco Nal, I don't know who do
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Speaker 1: I want to win that battle? And uh, it's fun
14:36
Speaker 1: to watch those guys compete, and uh, obviously as long
14:40
Speaker 1: as they keep competing and getting each other better. And
14:43
Speaker 1: and from cam standpoint, when you get to go against
14:45
Speaker 1: the guy like Josh Allen on a daily basis, hopefully
14:48
Speaker 1: that makes game days better for him because we feel
14:51
Speaker 1: like Josh is starting to scratch the surf up with
14:53
Speaker 1: being one of the better players in the league. Well
14:56
Speaker 1: even some really nice weapons with the young players. Dave
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Speaker 1: uh Chennault certainly a good young player. And then you've
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Speaker 1: got a young wide receiver. I gotta make sure I
15:04
Speaker 1: look at my list here. Uh, Colin Johnson, He's done
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Speaker 1: some really nice things. He's got a lot of big
15:08
Speaker 1: size and he plays big, which is impressive watching him
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Speaker 1: in the tight end group. Unfortunately, you've had an injury
15:14
Speaker 1: there with Josh Oliver. But are you satisfied with the
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Speaker 1: with the weapons that you have been able to surround
15:21
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew with Yeah. A matter of fact, I just
15:24
Speaker 1: asked Gardner that the other day and he was really
15:26
Speaker 1: excited about what he's got around him. Obviously, DJ Chark
15:30
Speaker 1: is coming off a Pro Bowl season. You got a
15:32
Speaker 1: veteran like Chris Conley who we really like and can
15:35
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. Uh, Keelan Cole is
15:39
Speaker 1: having a really good camp right now. And you've got d. D.
15:41
Speaker 1: Westbrook in the slot. And then we added two young
15:43
Speaker 1: players at uh we're not disappointed, and we're actually really
15:47
Speaker 1: excited about getting a Labisca Chanal in the second round
15:49
Speaker 1: who can do a lot of different things. He's a
15:51
Speaker 1: power receiver, he's he's dynamic with the ball in his hands.
15:54
Speaker 1: And and then in the fifth round, Colin Johnson, who
15:57
Speaker 1: you know, we took him. We're like, you know, this
15:59
Speaker 1: guy could come in and now he is having a
16:01
Speaker 1: tremendous camp. He's uh, he's playing inside, he's playing outside.
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Speaker 1: He for a big guy, he can really get in
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Speaker 1: and out of his breaks, and he's making some tremendous catches.
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Speaker 1: And uh, it's gonna be fun to see those guys
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Speaker 1: compete and see what they can do throughout the year.
16:16
Speaker 1: It's pretty easy to see when Leavisca should not walks
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Speaker 1: by you on the practice field, for the first time.
16:21
Speaker 1: What the hype was all about. I mean, this guy, um,
16:24
Speaker 1: you know, he's six two seven and all of that.
16:27
Speaker 1: But you know what was the thing that said out
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Speaker 1: the most about him on his college tape? But was
16:33
Speaker 1: it maybe the breakaway ability getting out of a tackle
16:36
Speaker 1: because of that big frame? Yeah, I think what what
16:40
Speaker 1: you look at Leavisca. It was an interesting study from
16:42
Speaker 1: a scout standpoint, because we were this time last year,
16:45
Speaker 1: we had him rited as one of the top receivers
16:47
Speaker 1: in the draft off of his eighteen season and probably
16:51
Speaker 1: if he would have came out that year even would
16:53
Speaker 1: have been, if not the first, maybe the second receiver
16:55
Speaker 1: taken that year. And then we're looking for these big
16:58
Speaker 1: things for him to grow up on him. We were like,
16:59
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a top ten fifteen pick. And
17:02
Speaker 1: then you come to find out he had a injury
17:05
Speaker 1: this time in camp last year and it was a
17:08
Speaker 1: little bit undiagnosed from my from my understanding, and he
17:11
Speaker 1: played all year maybe and went through the combine, did
17:15
Speaker 1: everything and and kind of realized that he needed taken
17:18
Speaker 1: care of um. And then when you look back and
17:20
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, he played through the nineteen season with
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Speaker 1: this injury, and he played at a pretty high level,
17:26
Speaker 1: not to what he did in eighteen. But you give
17:29
Speaker 1: the kid and his makeup and his toughness and his competitiveness,
17:32
Speaker 1: and that's the type of guy you want to go
17:34
Speaker 1: to to bat with. And he's, uh, he's been all that.
17:38
Speaker 1: And and we feel like once he got his surgery
17:41
Speaker 1: corrected that that he leave it a lot of his
17:43
Speaker 1: issues and so he's still working himself back into football shape.
17:48
Speaker 1: But we feel like that he's a guy that you
17:51
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things with and and and
17:52
Speaker 1: this power and his size and his competitiveness are outstanding.
17:58
Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment more with the g
18:00
Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell. We'll flip it around to the defensive side
18:02
Speaker 1: and discuss scouting without preseason games. This is the Doug
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Speaker 1: head coach tonight from t I A A. Bank Field.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Dave was flipping around to defense
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Speaker 1: and you know you you watch Josh Allen walk out
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Speaker 1: in the field and training camp and it's obvious that
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Speaker 1: he has been working his tail off this offseason after
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Speaker 1: a pro Bowl rookie year. This guy's got it all
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Speaker 1: together right, He's got it all physically, he's got everything
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Speaker 1: above the shoulder as you want, and he's everything you
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Speaker 1: want on this defense and for this organization. There's no
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Speaker 1: doubt about that. And even if there wasn't any time before,
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Speaker 1: which there shouldn't have been after this offseason, at least
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Speaker 1: so far, he looks and he sounds the part. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there there's no doubt about that. And I'll take how
21:32
Speaker 1: we say there's fifty three Josh Allen's any day, and
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Speaker 1: not just because of the talent, but the way he
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Speaker 1: approaches the game and his business on and off the field. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, between that draft class last year with him
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Speaker 1: and Joan Taylor and Quincy Williams and Josh Oliver, I mean,
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Speaker 1: those guys have been really, really good in terms of
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Speaker 1: how they approached their business and you could win a
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Speaker 1: lot of football games with an attitude like that. The
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Speaker 1: Dave Calevan Chason also looks to be the part kind
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Speaker 1: of the same position as Josh Allen. But the challenges
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Speaker 1: has really been the rest of your defensive line. You
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Speaker 1: had two opt out, You've had Rodney Gunner having to retire,
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Speaker 1: because of a heart condition. You've got two impending suspensions
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Speaker 1: along with two guys on your defensive line. When the
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Speaker 1: season starts, as a as a general manager, where are
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Speaker 1: you at with that defensive line and where do you
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Speaker 1: want to see it go? And could there be opportunities
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Speaker 1: once there's cuts made from other teams to maybe address
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Speaker 1: that defensive line or do you feel good about what
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Speaker 1: you got? Sure, we'll look at We'll definitely look at
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Speaker 1: opportunities as as players come available. But the one saving
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Speaker 1: grace is that the issues that we had all came early.
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Speaker 1: So we had our pick up players that we wanted
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Speaker 1: to go after and and and come in and compete.
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Speaker 1: And when you can go pick up, be the first
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Speaker 1: guy to pick up a Tammy Journey again or Adam Gossis,
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Speaker 1: guys that have played who really fit our mold and
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Speaker 1: have that are really good job since they've been here. Um,
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Speaker 1: we feel like those guys could do a really good job.
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Speaker 1: And other guys Karen Reid, who really fits our scheme
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Speaker 1: and and I'm sure you guys have caught him, you know,
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Speaker 1: um coming off the ball and being disruptive. So we've
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Speaker 1: got three guys there that have played, have played at
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Speaker 1: a pretty good level and maybe able to play at
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Speaker 1: a higher level in this scheme, So we feel good
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Speaker 1: about that. And then you have a young guy like
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Speaker 1: Davon Hamilton's where we weren't sure how how many reps
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Speaker 1: he was gonna have behind Al Woods or Rodney Gunter,
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Speaker 1: and then uh, as you've seen him, he's a load
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Speaker 1: out there and uh, I think he's given our offensive
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Speaker 1: line everything they can handle. So I would not say
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Speaker 1: that our coverages bear there. It's uh, you know, our
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Speaker 1: depth definitely took a hit. Um, But Dwan Smooths having
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Speaker 1: a great camp. He's coming off of a really good
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Speaker 1: year last year. You have Josh Allen Calais on Chason um,
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Speaker 1: so we feel good about that. From what you guys
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Speaker 1: have seen with Tavin Brian was having his best camp.
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Speaker 1: He'll be back in the lineup with Devon Hamilton's and
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Speaker 1: then our savvy Abat Abray Jones, who who can play
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Speaker 1: really anywhere along the defensive line. So we can only
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Speaker 1: dress eight ey game day. Um. You know, as long
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Speaker 1: as the guys we have now stay healthy, we think
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Speaker 1: they'll all come in and compete and uh we'll we'll
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Speaker 1: surprise the people along at the line our coaches and
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Speaker 1: players in there. Boy Devon Hamilton's looks to be a
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Speaker 1: very large man. I don't know what he weighs in
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Speaker 1: at Dave, but holy once he gets to push in.
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Speaker 1: Some of those guys, they don't seem to have an
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Speaker 1: anchor the offensive lineman anyway, don't have an anchor that
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Speaker 1: they can throw out. But to move to the linebacker
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Speaker 1: conversation a little bit, obviously, Joe Schobert was a big
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Speaker 1: addition and free agency, very successful player. Greg Williams loved
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Speaker 1: him with the Cleveland Browns when he had him there,
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Speaker 1: and that enabled you to move Myles Jack from the
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Speaker 1: mic position to the weak side position. And this is
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Speaker 1: a big change for for your defense to have, you know,
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Speaker 1: to position kind of changes in the middle. With the
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Speaker 1: defense that you know, you're trying to make sure that
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Speaker 1: you do a good job effectively stopping the run. How
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Speaker 1: has Joe looked and also how his moles looked. While
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Speaker 1: Joe has done a really nice job, communication has been
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Speaker 1: really good. He's still learning our scheme, but but as
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Speaker 1: a smart guys picking things up quickly and really Miles
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Speaker 1: has had a great season. Quietly has had a really
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Speaker 1: nice camp, and Uh, he's playing fast, he's playing instinctive,
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Speaker 1: and I think he's going to have a really good
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Speaker 1: year this year. And I feel good about our depth.
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Speaker 1: And we have guys like we drafted check Cortermaine who's
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Speaker 1: having a really nice camp, a local local player out
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Speaker 1: out of Jacksonville who played at University of Miami, and
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Speaker 1: we finally feel good about some of the depth that
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Speaker 1: we have a linebacker which we haven't had in the
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Speaker 1: year's Dave Kolo with US Jaguars General manager um final
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Speaker 1: thought from me, Dave, here is the difference in scouting
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Speaker 1: and looking And we were talking about the waiver wire
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Speaker 1: and possibly at some point maybe adding players at the
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Speaker 1: cut deadline. Well, it's a little different this year. No
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Speaker 1: preseason games, no game tape from the preseason. Obviously without games,
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Speaker 1: there's no game tape. As a scout, as a GM,
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Speaker 1: what do you lean on, like for a veteran player
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Speaker 1: or maybe a younger guy, you know, do you look
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Speaker 1: back at the old tape, do you look back at
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Speaker 1: college tape? Where are you kind of without giving up
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Speaker 1: your trade secrets, how do you scout here? It's like
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Speaker 1: Italian and we've had this talk with a lot of
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Speaker 1: a lot of our media people too, and it's been
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Speaker 1: it's been an interesting process. And what we really did was,
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Speaker 1: you know, you probably look at the players drafting the
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Speaker 1: fourth rout and higher are going to make their teams,
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Speaker 1: so we don't spend a lot of time in those guys.
26:36
Speaker 1: But what we did was we took you know, players
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Speaker 1: rounds five through seven and and all the college free agents,
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Speaker 1: and that the scouts that were assigned those teams, we
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Speaker 1: made him evaluate those guys over the summer and and
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Speaker 1: now it's just tracking those those players and tracking some
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Speaker 1: of guys like Jeff Logoman on Twitter and J. P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick on Twitter and seeing you know who they're talking about,
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Speaker 1: you know, late round guys, and you guys have bet
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Speaker 1: around football long enough. So that's why I kind of
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Speaker 1: asked some some of our guys that you know, not
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Speaker 1: talk about our college free agents are late draftable pick
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Speaker 1: so much, uh Twitter or put video out there. But
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Speaker 1: those are the things that we have to look at
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Speaker 1: this year. And it kind of just track, you know,
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Speaker 1: team by team, and every scout has a couple of
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Speaker 1: teams and they're looking at the guys that we think
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Speaker 1: are on the bubble. To make the team on top
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Speaker 1: of possibly some salary cut cap guys and and maybe
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Speaker 1: some veterans that maybe on the bubble. So the veterans
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Speaker 1: are easy because generally have a video from them in
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Speaker 1: the past and in years a lot of these college
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Speaker 1: free agents and they draft able picks. We really have
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Speaker 1: to go off to college stuff this year. All right, Well,
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Speaker 1: let me just tell you, Daves little if if if
27:41
Speaker 1: you're gonna follow somebody like me on Twitter, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get nothing because I'm just so active on Twitter. But
27:48
Speaker 1: but I gotta ask you about your first round pick.
27:50
Speaker 1: We haven't even asked you about about them. So how
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Speaker 1: what do you like about in the Florida products? C
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Speaker 1: J looks to be uh like a good football player
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Speaker 1: athletics as got good movement, but at times he looks
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Speaker 1: like a young player too. But uh boy certainly got
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Speaker 1: the skill set he does. We're just having to talk
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Speaker 1: on the field today. And you know, in terms of
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Speaker 1: his length and his his ability to press guys at
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Speaker 1: the lion scream and turn and run deep. You know, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: you've seen enough corners in this in this scheme where
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Speaker 1: very few of them can have enough confidence to be
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Speaker 1: able to get up in the receiver's face, press him
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Speaker 1: and have the speed to not worry about getting run by.
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Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys that can do it both.
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Speaker 1: And and he's still learning the re technique and when
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Speaker 1: our coaches teach him. But um, he he had a
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Speaker 1: really nice day the other day where a couple of
28:37
Speaker 1: past breakups and after he came back from his illness,
28:40
Speaker 1: and we're really kind of excited about what he can
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Speaker 1: do with his size, his athleticism in length, and his competitiveness.
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Speaker 1: Is he's been one of the first guys in the
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Speaker 1: building and when the last leave. So football is important
28:52
Speaker 1: to him and it's been it's been really good, good stuff.
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Speaker 1: Dave Coldwell, general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Always appreciate
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Speaker 1: your time. Thanks for spending some of it with us tonight.
29:04
Speaker 1: What about the specialist guys wanted kicker, parter nothing nothing,
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Speaker 1: we can't hey, kicker, putter, long snappers plural. We think
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Speaker 1: you're pretty good at kicker and snapper and putter. You're
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Speaker 1: good there, Dave. Yeah, we're good that we're good there.
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Speaker 1: Thanks than you have good happy, Thank you, Dave. Dave
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Speaker 1: us next week. I found the last part interesting. We
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Speaker 1: had talked about it earlier today logs, but hey, guess
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Speaker 1: what I mean. The scouting is a little more difficult
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Speaker 1: this preseason where you don't have game tape of other
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Speaker 1: guys and you're trying to find maybe a guy in
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Speaker 1: it was interesting that Dave talked about how he went
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Speaker 1: seven of all the guys that got drafted, because, you know,
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Speaker 1: on them. I don't know, but the essentially what it
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Speaker 1: the guys that they covered, but then also re checking them.
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Speaker 1: Maybe get a fresh set of eyes to evaluate somebody,
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Speaker 1: somebody maybe that they Jaguars really like, But all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, the Jaguars had somebody there that had maybe
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Speaker 1: a little higher rating, and they went with that guy.
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Speaker 1: But maybe this guy could improve them at a at
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Speaker 1: a maybe a bubble type position, or he got cut,
33:14
Speaker 1: nobody's putting on a practice squad, and he would be
33:17
Speaker 1: a very good practice squad edition, maybe better than what
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Speaker 1: they currently have. And maybe they saw enough of a
33:22
Speaker 1: god they have on their team right now that they
33:24
Speaker 1: don't feel very strongly about him. So I thought, that's
33:27
Speaker 1: a that's a really good job by Dave of having
33:31
Speaker 1: his scouting staff go back after the draft and re
33:35
Speaker 1: evaluate everybody in rounds five through seven, And hopefully he
33:39
Speaker 1: did that with like I said, with maybe a different
33:41
Speaker 1: set of eyes. They give you some different opinions on
33:44
Speaker 1: some guys. That's going deep. Now, that's a lot of
33:48
Speaker 1: players to cover. Yeah, I mean that's look, that's the reality.
33:52
Speaker 1: I mean, it's uh, I mean, uh, that's why you
33:56
Speaker 1: have scouting staffs in the National Football League that might
33:59
Speaker 1: be sixteen deep. You know, maybe some teams are deeper
34:02
Speaker 1: than that. Very few teams are like the Cincinnati Bengals
34:06
Speaker 1: and have a skeleton crew of a scouting staff you know,
34:09
Speaker 1: it wasn't until recently that the Cincinnati Bengals had more
34:12
Speaker 1: than I think maybe ten guys in their entire scouting department.
34:15
Speaker 1: They relied on their coaches to do much of the scouting.
34:19
Speaker 1: But it's become such a needed process that you know,
34:23
Speaker 1: the Bengals are now starting to finally get to get
34:26
Speaker 1: with the current times and uh, but yeah, scouting is
34:30
Speaker 1: incredibly valuable. I mean, you think about this, JP. If
34:33
Speaker 1: you can have one scout that can find you a
34:36
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and round six, it changes your franchise completely.
34:42
Speaker 1: If you can get a Carl Mecklenburg, you know, who's
34:46
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame caliber linebacker, defensive end that played
34:51
Speaker 1: for the Denver Broncos, and you get him in round
34:53
Speaker 1: I think he was round twelve, I mean, it changes
34:57
Speaker 1: your franchise so um that wife. Scouting is so valuable.
35:01
Speaker 1: You just never know what kind of hidden gem that
35:04
Speaker 1: you might be able to uncover. You gotta find the
35:08
Speaker 1: guy and then convince the decision maker to make that
35:12
Speaker 1: selection as well when it comes draft day. That's a
35:15
Speaker 1: big combination. Then hope that player develops and works out.
35:19
Speaker 1: It's a long process to get to that point and
35:22
Speaker 1: we'll see if the you know, it's it's a lot
35:24
Speaker 1: of work still ahead, I think for this team. And um,
35:28
Speaker 1: you know, he said that there fairly confident on that
35:31
Speaker 1: defensive line, especially that's the position group you talked about
35:34
Speaker 1: maybe adding some guys, but you're still there's gonna be
35:38
Speaker 1: a little bit of churn. Yeah, yeah, I mean he
35:41
Speaker 1: he said, Look, they're gonna look and be active and
35:44
Speaker 1: and actively look for ways to improve their roster. And
35:47
Speaker 1: I think that defensive line is probably one of those areas.
35:52
Speaker 1: You know. I I do like some of the guys
35:54
Speaker 1: that they have, but at the same token, I don't
35:57
Speaker 1: like some of the guys that they have, um, and
36:00
Speaker 1: I think that they might be able to improve on
36:02
Speaker 1: some of them, you know. And you know, right now,
36:04
Speaker 1: I think as as a scouting staff, you're also probably
36:08
Speaker 1: scouting other teams as far as veterans, because you can
36:13
Speaker 1: continue to watch veteran take because veterans may become available
36:16
Speaker 1: where a team decides who go ahead with a younger player,
36:19
Speaker 1: you know, And the Jaguar scouting staff make no mistake
36:21
Speaker 1: about it, They tracked teams, They tracked their rosters. They
36:25
Speaker 1: know that for example, maybe the Baltimore Ravens have a
36:29
Speaker 1: tremendous running back room and have a lot of depth there,
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Speaker 1: and there might be a guy that gets cut from
36:34
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36:38
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36:40
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36:42
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36:47
Speaker 1: Maybe they're deep at defensive end or defensive line because
36:51
Speaker 1: they have a lot of draft capital of that position.
36:53
Speaker 1: Maybe they cut a guy that can play. And so
36:56
Speaker 1: they scout teams as well as individuals to know which
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37:03
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37:08
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40:28
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40:31
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40:34
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40:38
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40:41
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40:43
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40:46
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40:49
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40:52
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41:06
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41:09
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41:21
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41:25
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41:27
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41:31
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41:35
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41:37
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41:41
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41:44
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41:47
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41:51
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41:54
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41:58
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42:01
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42:05
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42:09
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42:12
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42:16
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42:19
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42:23
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42:26
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42:29
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42:31
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42:34
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42:37
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42:38
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42:47
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42:51
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42:53
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42:57
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43:07
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43:14
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43:17
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43:20
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43:24
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43:27
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43:41
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43:47
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43:53
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Speaker 1: of the season. We mentioned the linebackers there with Dave earlier.
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Speaker 1: Joe Schoulbert, the big edition and I think, you know, Logs,
48:30
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48:32
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48:36
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48:39
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48:43
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48:48
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48:52
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48:55
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48:57
Speaker 1: to do right right, and uh, you know, to be
49:01
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49:03
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49:08
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49:19
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49:21
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49:24
Speaker 1: And uh, and so far, everybody seems to be on
49:27
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49:30
Speaker 1: Pause was so good at that and sometimes when you
49:33
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49:37
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49:50
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49:53
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49:56
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49:59
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50:02
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50:22
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50:24
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50:26
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50:29
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50:32
Speaker 1: and obviously that's a big impact on Miles Jack. I
50:34
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50:37
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50:39
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50:41
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50:45
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50:48
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50:51
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50:53
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50:58
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50:59
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51:02
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51:04
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51:07
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51:09
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51:12
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51:16
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51:18
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51:21
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51:24
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51:27
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51:33
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51:37
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51:50
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to Saturday. Yeah, me too. And
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Speaker 1: affected by Hurricane Laura, because a lot of that conversation
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Speaker 1: has been pushed to the back burner a little bit.
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Speaker 1: So the folks that are living in Louisiana and Texas
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Speaker 1: and parts north of their where they they had a
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Speaker 1: big one come through there, now, JP, they certainly did.
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Speaker 1: We know all about that in the snack of the
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Speaker 1: woods as well, Logs, great stuff. We'll talk to you
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Speaker 1: again next week, all right, JP enjoyed it. Jeff Logavan,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars analyst. Their thanks to GM Dave Caldwell sitting in
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Speaker 1: for Doug Barne tonight, for everyone involved, our entire crew.
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Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll catch you next time. The
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.