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Did the Vikings make a HUGE mistake in letting Sam Darnold go after 2024? | TSH Ep. 124 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The Skull Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
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  Speaker 1: beer and talking about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we do. And speaking of beer, we went back
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  Speaker 2: to a beer that we had over one hundred episodes ago,
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  Speaker 2: and might I add it was just as delicious as before.
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  Speaker 1: I would definitely agree. And we looked back at the
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  Speaker 1: AFC and NFC championship games, discussing roses, thorns, game balls,
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  Speaker 1: all the normal stuff. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then it wouldn't be the Skull Hop if we
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  Speaker 2: didn't talk for the majority of the time about the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings quarterback situation, past, present and future.
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  Speaker 1: It was actually a pretty good talker. Yeah, we really
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  Speaker 1: kind of got into a groove there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. It was good and I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: see where our favorite team ends up next season. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: But until next episode, go ahead and grab a cold
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  Speaker 2: one and join us for episode one twenty five or
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  Speaker 2: Skull Up one twenty four. So sorry, school School.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: But hopefully in like the next month or two. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Can Ours is a big custom piece, like maybe one
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  Speaker 1: of the bigger ones he's done. So anyways, if you're
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to Front of the Show Blue just yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: I think two days ago, and he was sending me
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  Speaker 2: pictures of his man cave that he's starting to put
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  Speaker 2: together and he's got some cool bar set up, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, if you need some stuff to
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  Speaker 2: That's badasswoodart dot Com and our promo code. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: texted back with the name of one of them. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, Oh, that's awesome. So I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: is he going to get the Randy Moss No. I
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  Speaker 2: told him I liked that one. He said he liked
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  Speaker 2: one called the Scolder, which is pretty much Harrison Smith
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  Speaker 2: running onto the field with a big American flag, which,
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  Speaker 2: what you would like. But yeah, yeah that's badasswoodart dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: They're really cool. It doesn't even have to be just
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's officially anything related to the
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  Speaker 2: Viking there it is a Scolder.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a cool one. Yeah, I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we should like super impose a picture of that
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of making awesome stuff, we did not plan that transition.
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  Speaker 2: We've got some beer and we didn't make it, but
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  Speaker 2: we've made some beer with Front of the show for
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  Speaker 2: us before and it's been good. But this is maybe
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  Speaker 2: a better, you know, consistently better beer. Evan, What do
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  Speaker 2: we have tonight?
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  Speaker 1: You? It's a peace Tree Brewing, which we did a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of research to make sure we knew Peachtree
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  Speaker 1: actually closed temporarily, and then they merged with Backpocket, and
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  Speaker 1: then back Pocket and peace Tree merged with one of
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  Speaker 1: the first breweries I ever went to, Single Speed, in Waterloo.
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  Speaker 1: So the three breweries together are now kind of operating
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  Speaker 1: under one roof and Waterloo, Iowa. And they're still making
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  Speaker 1: the Red Rambler. I think Peacetree has been making the
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  Speaker 1: Red Rambler for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I kind of forgot Peachtree they did have
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  Speaker 2: that time what a year or two ago where they
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  Speaker 2: actually like closed up shop. I totally forgot about that.
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  Speaker 2: So back Pocket picked them up and now here this
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  Speaker 2: previous fall we were just talking, that's when that big
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  Speaker 2: merger between Backpocket, also Peastree, and Single Speed happened. So
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  Speaker 2: this one is a peace Tree original Red Rambler. It's
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  Speaker 2: a red Ale five point eight percent. We've had this
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  Speaker 2: one did you say what episode we had.
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  Speaker 1: It on episode nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: There we go, So I'm excited to have it again.
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  Speaker 2: I probably haven't had this one. It's episode nineteen a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago for the skull Hot now, but I
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  Speaker 2: knew this one was right in your wheelhouse a nice
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  Speaker 2: red or a nice ale. So yeah, I'm really looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 2: You gave it a good hard poor there for another show.
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  Speaker 2: Brian asked me recently what a hard poor was if
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  Speaker 2: you are just listening and not watching. Hard poor is
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  Speaker 2: when you just open the can and really just kind
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  Speaker 2: of dump the beer straight in your mug rather than
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  Speaker 2: give it an angle. It let's for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: foam right at the beginning, but it really releases some
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  Speaker 2: of the aromas. I'm not a scientist and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a beer aficionado. I just like beer, and I know
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  Speaker 2: that it makes it taste a little better when you
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  Speaker 2: give it a hard poor. So it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good beer. It's a good one that's
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  Speaker 1: really good, and I don't think really anything has changed
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  Speaker 1: about it. Which I like to pick up a beer
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  Speaker 1: that I know I've had before and I know I
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  Speaker 1: liked it and it's just as good as it's always been.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this red Rambler, it's not trying to do anything
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  Speaker 2: too crazy. It's a red Ale and it's just a solid, simple,
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  Speaker 2: really good red Ale. So I'm really glad that Peace
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  Speaker 2: Tree is not forever gone. I'm glad Single Speed has
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  Speaker 2: revived and really back pocket revived it, but Single Speed's
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  Speaker 2: keeping it going. This is a really good beer, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of disappointed myself that I haven't had it
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  Speaker 2: since you know what, episode nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: So I wanted to come back to the hard Poor
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  Speaker 1: because it just brought back a core memory of mine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, I was in college and I think you
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  Speaker 1: might have been there. We went to B Dubs in
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  Speaker 1: our college town, Cedar Falls, Iowa, and I had only
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  Speaker 1: had at that point in my life, maybe like two
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  Speaker 1: beers total, and they were just like bottles or cans
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  Speaker 1: that we had had at the house that I lived
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  Speaker 1: in in college at the time. We went to B
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  Speaker 1: Dubs and I was of age and I was all
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  Speaker 1: excited and somebody, I think it was one of my roommates,
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  Speaker 1: told me you should get a Foster's. So I got
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  Speaker 1: a Foster's Australian for beer, and they come in those big,
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  Speaker 1: huge crowlers, Like they're not these like dinky twelve ounce kens,
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  Speaker 1: they're these like thick, they're these big I don't even know,
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  Speaker 1: they're not even sixteen ounce kens. They gotta be like
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  Speaker 1: twenty four ounces. Maybe they're big Foster's beer. And they
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  Speaker 1: bring a glass kind of like this, and I had
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  Speaker 1: never poured beer into a glass, and so I just
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  Speaker 1: went for it. I'm like, all right, and my roommate
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  Speaker 1: was like no, and then all of a sudden, there's
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  Speaker 1: just foam everywhere, and he's like, you gotta, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: angle it. You gotta, you know, take the forty five.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and so that's the That's
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  Speaker 1: how I poured beer for the longest time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So you have to you do have to
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  Speaker 2: be smart about a hard poor Sometimes you gotta take
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  Speaker 2: give it a minute, because I mean, if your glass isn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, larger than the twelve ounces or what, then
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  Speaker 2: it is going to overflow a little bit, which we've
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  Speaker 2: probably done several times on the show, and we've definitely
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  Speaker 2: come close to it a lot. Because there's a reason
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  Speaker 2: we keep a roll of paper towels down here, and.
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  Speaker 1: It depends on the beer you're drinking too, Like obviously
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  Speaker 1: this red Rambler red Ale is gonna be pretty foamy,
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  Speaker 1: but like a Guinness for example, or like a nitro
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  Speaker 1: beer with the little nitro balls in them. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what Guinness comes with. Now, those are designed to
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  Speaker 1: literally crack open and just straight up like you don't
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  Speaker 1: angle that at all, you just put it straight down.
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  Speaker 1: So again, beer type definitely plays a role.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that has been your your unplanned beer hour.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 2: We'll give another good opinion on this beer after we've
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  Speaker 2: had a couple more towards the end of the episode,
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  Speaker 2: but for now, of divisional not divisional round, Championship round
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL playoffs just wrapped up. Yeah, had the
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  Speaker 2: Rams losing to the Seahawks, and then the Patriots beat
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  Speaker 2: the shoot who did Bronco the Broncos. Yeah, and the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots are back again in the super Bowl and the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks are back as well, and they played each other.
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  Speaker 2: What super Bowl I don't even was it super Bowl fifty,
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl forty something like that that the Seahawks and
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots played.
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  Speaker 1: The infamous should have run the ball and didn't and
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  Speaker 1: they passed the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I know yeah, I guess it was only ten twelve
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  Speaker 2: years ago now that yep, thirteen ish years ago. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's true. Because what was his name? The Patriots cornerback
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  Speaker 2: that jumped up and intercepted the ball.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember his name, but I just remember they
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  Speaker 1: had Marshawn Lynch and like he's a beast of a
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  Speaker 1: running back. They were at the one yard line. All
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  Speaker 1: they had to do is hand it off to him
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  Speaker 1: and they probably score and win. And what do they do.
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  Speaker 1: They passed the ball and the Patriots intercept them. The
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  Speaker 1: d back whoever it was that intercepted the ball, didn't
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  Speaker 1: even run it, like he knew that the game was sealed.
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  Speaker 1: It was over, just took a knee and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna look it up.
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  Speaker 1: Right's gonna be gonna bug us for a while if
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  Speaker 1: we don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, now I'm just getting Christian Gonzales, which that's
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  Speaker 2: because it's recent. We'll figure somebody will comment the name
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  Speaker 2: of that defensive back there. But yeah, the Patriots and
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks in the Super Bowl yet again, Evan. Let's just
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  Speaker 2: go into roses and thorns here, Evan, for Championship round.
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  Speaker 2: What's your rose hang on. I'm gonna figure this is it,
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm Jenkins. No, that doesn't sound.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Butler.
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm Butler, there it is, okay, yeah, Malcolm Butler. All right,
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: well if you already commented, don't delete your comment. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Evan roses and thorns for Championship Round? What what was
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  Speaker 2: your rose?
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  Speaker 1: I think my rose is that Sean Payton didn't make
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  Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl. I was rooting against the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos pretty hard, and to be fair, if it weren't
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  Speaker 1: for the coach, I probably would have been okay with
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Super Bowl. But because they're coached
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  Speaker 1: by that man, and my kids were asking me about it.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, why don't you like the Broncos And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't like their coach.
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  Speaker 2: They got butthole lies. Did you tell your kids?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't tell him that because I don't need them
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  Speaker 1: repeating that at school. But yeah, I just told him, like, Nope.
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  Speaker 1: That man wasn't very nice to the Vikings and that's
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  Speaker 1: why we don't like him.
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  Speaker 2: So although since then, the Vikings have pretty pretty heartbreakingly
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  Speaker 2: knocked his Saints teams out of the playoffs a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times, it's no Super Bowl, but a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of revenge is okay. It's not gonna make the bounty
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  Speaker 2: gate okay, but it's still I still don't like the
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  Speaker 2: Saints just for that, but yeah, that is nice. It's
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  Speaker 2: another another reason to enjoy rooting against Sean Payton because
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  Speaker 2: he got so close. I will admit, though, I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of getting caught up in the whole underdog story
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  Speaker 2: of Jared Stidham.
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  Speaker 1: And that was appealing to me too. For sure.
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  Speaker 2: When he threw that first it was like his second
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  Speaker 2: drive of the game. He threw that bomb that I
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  Speaker 2: think the receiver got tackled before the end zone, but
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  Speaker 2: they ultimately ended up going on un scoring, but it
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  Speaker 2: was like a fifty something yard pass and it just
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  Speaker 2: looked perfect. I kind of started thinking, like, man, is
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  Speaker 2: Jared Stidham really gonna nick Foles his way all the
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  Speaker 2: way to the Super Bowl? And I genuinely think if
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  Speaker 2: not for the weather, the Broncos, like, if it had
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  Speaker 2: been indoors or perfect weather the whole game, the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: probably would have pulled it out. But that's one of
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  Speaker 2: the great things about sports and football is that he
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: sometimes weather does affect a game. And both teams have
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  Speaker 2: to deal with it, so you get what you get.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, my rose is not necessarily anything that happened
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  Speaker 2: on the field during Championship Round. But it's the news
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  Speaker 2: that it sure seems like Brian Flores is going to
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  Speaker 2: be back for his fourth season as the Vikings defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest chance Flores had for a head
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  Speaker 2: coaching job this cycle, at least so far, was the
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  Speaker 2: Steelers job. They were the only other team than the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings who has hired him since he started this lawsuit
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  Speaker 2: against the NFL, so as a team that was proven
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  Speaker 2: that they at least on some level were okay with
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  Speaker 2: Brian Flores and hiring him. And for all we know,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: we're overblowing that storyline. And maybe no teams care about
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  Speaker 2: this lawsuit, or maybe they all hate him for it
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  Speaker 2: and they'll never hire him ever again as a head coach.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But Mike McCarthy, former Packers and Cowboys coach,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be the Steelers coach, which, okay, I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be excited if I was a Steelers fan, but
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  Speaker 2: they can enjoy that all they want.
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  Speaker 1: Can I tell you a funny joke? Yes about that. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I used odd too, and I'll clean up
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  Speaker 1: the language a little bit. But hiring Mike McCarthy as
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  Speaker 1: the coach and having just parted ways with Mike Tomlin
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  Speaker 1: is like crapping your pants and changing your shirt.
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  Speaker 2: I have seen that.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I don't know when McCarthy was like a coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: what his if he was like offense, defense, whatever, but
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  Speaker 2: I do know teams typically like if they fire like
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  Speaker 2: a defensive oriented.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, they're gonna go the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: I go the opposite and get an offensive oriented guy.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not a tried and true rule, but it's
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  Speaker 2: interesting how often that happens, Like if the Vikings ever, well,
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings they fired Mike Zimmer a few years ago,
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  Speaker 2: who was notoriously a famous defensive mind, and then they
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  Speaker 2: went for at the time one of the highest touted
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  Speaker 2: off defensive minds that could be hired as a head coach,
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  Speaker 2: and Kevin O'Connell. So I know Mike Tomlin. Yes, he's
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  Speaker 2: been there a couple of decades pretty much, but he
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  Speaker 2: was the Vikings defensive coordinator, so a defensive mind you
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  Speaker 2: kind of looked it up. Did you see anything about McCarthy's.
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy's an offensive guy, makes sense wide receivers and quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: mostly before he became a coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But as far as other jobs, I don't really know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess not every job is filled right now. I
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  Speaker 2: think as of recording, the Bills job is still open.
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  Speaker 1: Vegas is a Cardinals job. Carls in Brown's nobody wants
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  Speaker 1: to go to Clear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. A few people have pulled out of the Browns consideration.
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  Speaker 2: Grant Yudinsky a guy that used to coach for the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings and has taken a few head coaching interviews this cycle.
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  Speaker 2: I think just today it was announced that he pulled
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  Speaker 2: out of consideration of the Browns job. Which there could
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  Speaker 2: be reasons that we hear coach pulls out. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: just his team wants, like his agent wants to get
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  Speaker 2: it out that oh my guy turned that job down,
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  Speaker 2: and when in reality it could be you know, the
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  Speaker 2: NFL team being like, we're not going for you. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, Brian Flores one more year at
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  Speaker 2: least as the Vikings defensive coordinator and as of right now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy about it.
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean that Harrison Smith comes back, he gets
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: his coach back. He and he had nothing but good
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: things to say about Brian Flores.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I will say right after the season ended, maybe
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: even like the day of the Vikings Packers game at
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the end of the season, Ben Lieber was on the
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: radio and maybe it was a day after on the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Power Trip morning show. Ben Leeber kind of alluded to
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the idea that, I mean, if Flores came back, that
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: would be about one of the only ways that Harrison
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Smith may consider coming back. And I don't think Ben
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Leber was like, you know, reporting inside knowledge of anything
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith told him or anything. It was more just
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, educated speculation on Ben Leber's part.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: But Lever also kind of floated the idea that Smith could,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Harry could, you know, kind of halfway retire, kind of
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: start the season, you know, not on the on the roster,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of you know, refreshing his legs, and
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: then if the Vikings ended up you know, contending or
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: making the playoffs, then you could see Harrison Smith kind
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: of join the team halfway through the season. I don't know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: but having Odell Beckham junior kind of thing and something
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: like that, you hang out until it's playoff time, or
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: even something like what Eric Kendricks did with the forty
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: nine ers this season. He kind of joined them later
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: in the season a couple of games left, and then
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you know, started in the playoffs out of injury and
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: necessity for the team and balled out and would you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: he had a really good game against the Eagles. But yeah,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I think Ben Leber was kind of speculating that step
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: one for Harrison Smith to even be considered to come
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: back for another year is probably getting Brian Flores back,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So it can't hurt. So I if you're a fan
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of the idea of Harrison Smith coming back for a
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: fifteenth season, fourteenth something like something like that, then Brian
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Flores coming back probably is a good, good, good thing
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: for that to happen.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm on I'm on board with it. I'm all
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: for it. I mean, the defense was honestly the best
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: part of our team this last year. So the offense
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: was abysmal and the defense took a while, and there
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: were some injuries. Blake Cashman was out, they felt that
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Van Ginkel was out. They felt that, but once they
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: got these guys back and healthy, that defense was a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: force to be reckoned with. And I don't think the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Vikings go five to zero to finish the season if
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that defense is even just you know, eighty five percent
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of what it was, you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, absolutely, and not to derail it even more
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: just talking about Harrison Smith, but I mean the Vikings
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: had a five game winst to end the season. Now,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: there are some factors in that the Packers were not
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: trying to win that final game, they didn't really care
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: about winning that game. But Harrison Smith being fully healthy,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: he definitely flashed a lot more in those last few
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: games for the Vikings defense. And you say people getting healthy,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith being healthy is a huge thing for your team.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I like you will also be all for
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: it if Harrison Smith comes back, and even if that's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: only half the second half of the season, hopefully for
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: a playoff run, that'd be a lot of fun.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Anything to make this defense stout like it's been, we'll
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: take it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yep, especially if there are more you know, question marks
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: or development pains at the quarterback position or just offense
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: in general. For the Vikings. The better your defense is,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the least the less pressure there is on your offense.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: To be elite like it game balls for Championship round.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I think we skipped thorns, oh man, all right, but
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that's okay because we got we got really into the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: roses and it's kind of hard to pick thorns, honestly,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: but I think I came up with a good one.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Uh? Sam Donald making the Super Bowl just kind of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: resurfaces some old wounds as Vikings fans. Now that's not
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to say that I'm mad that Sam Donald made the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. In fact, I'm excited for him, and I'm
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to root for him. I hope he wins.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I hope he beats the Patriots, because I really don't.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: No one really needs to see the Patriots win another
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: They've already done it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Come on. But it just all I've seen since the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: end of the NFC Championship game yesterday was, well, the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Vikings could have had that, the Vikings could have been there.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: What would have happened if you would have stuck around
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: with the Vikings? Should the Vikings have done that? Was
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: this a huge mistake? And it just it just brings
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: up all those old wounds of like man like it's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it's the like, is it the Batman meme where he's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like in his bed holding the picture and crying and sorry,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: that's Wolverine. Wolverine, Okay, so you don't even know, but
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: it's like one of those situations, right, Or it's the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like I think, didn't we have a TikTok that we
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: made where it was from Encanto and he's like putting
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the picture together, Remember.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: But that was about the pasture, not it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, that's what it feels
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: like with Sam Darnold right now for Vikings fans, like
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: we're we're a little we're a little it's bittersweet, We'll
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: say it that way, right, sweet, awesome for him, good
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: for he's a good guy. Shoot, he won fourteen games
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in Purple, like amazing, awesome, but bitter in the fact
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that he didn't do it with our team, you know.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: And it kind of feels like the Viking were a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: stepping stone, a lily pad to get from one place
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to another. And he's an MVP candidate, maybe the top
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: MVP candidate.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You could argue a few other players, but he's definitely
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: He's going to the Super Bowl for sure. And depending
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: on how he plays, I'd say if he played, if
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: he plays like he played in the NFC Championship game,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: he's got a really good shot at being a super
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Bowl MVP too. So you know, he's kind of that
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: zero to hero kind of candidate, coming from you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: being a backup other places to really finding success with
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the Vikings and now going to the super Bowl with
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: another team. So it's a thorn only because it's bittersweet
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and it's just hard to watch the guy that we
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: loved watching last year win a bunch of games for
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: our team now go to the super Bowl with another team.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I can't think of a more apt thorn,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: especially for you know, most recent and fell news or
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: as it relates to the Vikings, I think, yeah, those
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: old wounds and the fact that at least for the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: next couple of weeks until the Super Bowl, and then
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: especially if Sam Donald and the Seahawks win the Super Bowl,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: it's just going to keep this talker going inside of
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the Viking spandom where we're saying, man, I hate the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: GM and I hate the coach for letting Sam Donald walk,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And maybe we can touch on all that here here
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: in a little bit. But yeah, that is a pretty
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: big thorn, is that this is gonna be a painful
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: thing for Vikings fans and the Viking organization for a
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: little bit, maybe the theme of the off season, maybe
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: even already regardless if Sam Donald and the Seahawks win.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I can't really think of a better thorn.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: So now can we move on to game balls?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think you should start, though, because I think
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: your game ball is kind of relevant to what we're
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: just talking about.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, yeahs As far as players on
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the field throughout these two games, there were a few
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: players that played pretty well, but I think you gotta
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: go with the hot hand right now, Sam Donald, he
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: was twenty five of thirty six passing three hundred and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: forty six yards and three touchdowns. And I think, am
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I I might be wrong, but I think all of
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: all three of those touchdowns came in the first half.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: That might not be right. At least two came in
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the first half. But yeah, the Seahawks played very well.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a blowout against the Rams thirty one to
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: twenty seven. The Seahawks blew out the forty nine Ers
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a week before, but it was a good game against
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the Rams, and Sam Donald, to his credit, didn't look
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: like he did against you know, the Lions in the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: final week of the season last year, and then the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: week again the week after in the playoffs with the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Vikings against this same Rams team, Sam Donald, and this
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: is where those old wounds are coming from. Sam Donald
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: looked like a guy who was worthy of winning that
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: game and winning the Super Bowl, and somebody who was
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: worthy of the one hundred million dollar contract that he
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: got from the Seahawks. So if nothing else, for that
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: one game, Sam Donald gets my game ball.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked it up. His third touchdown came early
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in the third quarter. That Rams player muffed the punt
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to start the third quarter, Seattle got the ball went
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you know, only had five plays punted, but then the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the Rams player muffed the punt in deep in Seattle
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: territory and it took one play. It was a seventeen
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: yard pass to who was it to.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Bobo Bobo, And I think they were saying on TV
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: that guy had caught either caught two passes all season
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: or three passes all season, because you know, I think
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: they were saying he'd only caught three passes all year,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and his fourth catch was the touchdown in the NFC
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Championship game, which is pretty awesome.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Actually, two of his touchdowns came in the third quarterbacks
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he had that Cooper Cup pass oh as well.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was way off on the whole three
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: in the first half.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It's all good, but that Cooper Cup touchdown was kind
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of special too, because Cup obviously played and won a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the La Rams. I don't know, did
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you see the post game Matthew Stafford trying to like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: navigate his way through to try to find Cooper Cup.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't see that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: It was pretty cool because, like, you know, it's kind
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of organized chaos in the middle of the field after
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: a game and there's just people everywhere. You know, people
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: are just trying to dap people up, and you got
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: people jersey swapping and stuff, and the coaches are, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: giving each other high fives and anyways, Stafford is just
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: like there's good footage of him, like he's just like
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: surveying the field looking for Cooper Cup and finally he
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: finds them and he just is like, hey, man, go
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: win it, Go get a Super Bowl, go do it again,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and like Super encouraging, and I was like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that's cool.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I'd like to think, especially even Matt Stafford, as competitive
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: as these guys are, which you don't make it in
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: the NFL without being super competitive, but especially in that situation,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Matt Stafford has won a Super Bowl already. Not that
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: you are ever okay with losing, and especially losing in
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the game before the Super Bowl, but there's got to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: be some solace in knowing, like, all right, he wanted
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a few years ago, and now you get to be
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a fan of your friend and root for your friend
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and former teammate. There's got to be some I don't
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: know piece in that. I'm guessing. Not that it's ever
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: fun to lose the game before the Super Bowl. We've
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: seen it as fans of the Vikings a few times,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and that's terrible. It steals some of my fanhood away
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: every time it happens. But yeah, I think Sam Darnold, Seahawks,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup, that whole team, I think they're gonna end
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: up doing it. I'll give my official super Bowl prediction
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: here at the end of the episode, but spoiler alert,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks are gonna win. Evan, have you
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: have you given your game ball.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: No, but I will and my game ball is gonna
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: go to another player with Seattle, and that is Jackson
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba. Now, you could look at the stat
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: sheet and say, well, Poka Nkua had more yards on
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: fewer catches, and you know, maybe arguably played a better game. Shoot,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you could say DeVante Adams played a good game too,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: if you're just looking at wide receivers. But you get
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: down to the end of the day and who won
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the game. Devanta Adams and Puka Nakua didn't win. Jackson
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba did. And I think you could make
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a case. I don't think he's gonna win the NFL MVP,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: but I think Jackson Smith and Jigba is what we've
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: seen just Jefferson to be.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking that with the Vikings.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was that valuable to this team. I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: mean it was like twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, Yeah, just out of JSN this.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Year importantly JJ Justin Jefferson one Offensive Player of the
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Year in twenty twenty two. And yeah, Smith and Jigba
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: had similar numbers to what Jefferson had that year. So
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: he should be an award winner of something here in
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the offseason.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And I know this is a game ball for one game,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: but he caught a touchdown. He had ten catches one
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three yards on twelve targets. Again, Puka
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: had fewer catches for more yards and a touchdown was
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: targeted more, but he didn't walk away with the win. Yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I think that just says a lot about this Seattle team.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I think we're on the same side when it comes
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to our Super Bowl prediction. We'll get there in a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: little bit. We've already spoiled that a little bit. But
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the other thing I would like to point out with
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Jack Smith and Jigbab, it's a little selfish, but the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: man helps me win our fantasy league this year. He
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was definitely the MVP of my fantasy team, scored me
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of points, got me to the championship game,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and helped me win the championship game. So he gets
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: my game ball for more reasons.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Than one a well earned game ball. I've seen some
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: podcasts and some like fan shows have like even made
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: up a bunch of little trophies and they'll have like
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: their you know best Viking of the week and like
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: physically ship it to the vikings and be like, hey,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson was the school hops best Viking of the week.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: We should explore that. That'd be kind of cool because
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I've seen like these players every once in a while,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: depending on what it is, they'll be doing like a
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: locker room interview and you can see behind them they've
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: got that little, like teeny little two dollars trophy that
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: was sent to them by some no name podcasts like
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the school Hop.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: But maybe maybe they'd be fun we give a game
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: ball and then we ship it out, you know, that'd
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: be funny.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'd be all for it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe it won't happen. Maybe well, we'll see.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to our sponsors and see what they're willing
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to chip in. Yeah.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: If, by the way, just really quick, if you're looking
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: to sponsor a show here, we are definitely open to
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: more sponsorship opportunities, So let us know. Let's school Hoop
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. We may be able to talk
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: about stuff.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: You can put your logo anywhere in here. What we're
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: just saying, well that's anywhere.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Geez, we'll talk.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But all right, I mean prior approval.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Of course, I don't know about anywhere.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: And we'll slap it right on that big old bald
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: ahead of yours.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: All right, V. So yeah, it was a good championship round.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: It all led to Super Bowl, which will feature the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Patriots and the Seahawks. I know on our outline we
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: have it to talk about at the end.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Let's just talk about it now.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Well, we got all next week. There's not really going
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: to be any football, you know, live football to talk
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: about because they don't do the Pro Bowl then do they,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And even then it's not a full game. We could
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: just give a quick couple minutes on the Super Bowl.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: A couple things for me. There's a lot of former
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Vikings in the Super Bowl, obviously Sam Darnold. I don't
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: know if there's any other Seahawks that are former Vikings,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: but two big ones on the Patriots are Stefan Diggs
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and Garrett Bradberry. I think cairis Toga Patriot. I think
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the Patriots actually have a few former Vikings, but the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: biggies are Garrett Bradberry, who was the starting center for
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the Vikings last season, and we were all pretty okay
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: with him moving on. But maybe that was more of
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: a coaching thing that was really the issue, because I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: saw something today. Garrett Bradbury hasn't allowed a sack or
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: a hurry. I think is definitely no sacks and probably
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: no hurries or pressures since he left the Vikings, which
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: is insane, and like, why couldn't you do that for us,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: say with Sam Darnold, Like why couldn't you do that
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: for us in the playoffs? Why couldn't Gary Bradberry do
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that for us this year?
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: There?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Last year? You know, maybe he'd still be a Viking.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And then Stefan Diggs, you know, his high point obviously
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the Minneapolis miracle, and then he pouted his way out
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of town. I'll never really be a fan of Stefan Diggs.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Like the person, he's obviously very talented. I think he's
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: still in the midst of some like legal issues, which
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: we don't need to dive into too much because neither
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: of us have a lot of information on that and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: it's not really fair to talk about it with most information.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: But still he's potentially gonna be facing some legal issues
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you know here shortly. But yeah, Evan, there's some former
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Vikings which former Viking would you rather see Earn a
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl ring.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, Sam Donald, it's an easy one, all right.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: You thought about that for a little bit.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I did. I had to make sure that I wasn't
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: saying something stupid, and yeah, no, Sam Donald, it's an
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: easy one. Garrett Bradbury, here's here's my take on him.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I thought he's a really good guy. I think he's
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: one of the smarter centers in the league. And I
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: think you have to have some brains to play the position.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: You can't just be some mindless piece of meat snapping
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the ball.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Like especially at center, they're making blocking calls, they're doing
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: a lot. It's a smart position. I think there's any
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: dumb position on the film.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: But I think that's the point I'm trying to make though,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: is like center is kind of an appendage of the quarterback,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: right like next to the quarterback, they're they're kind of
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the quarterback of the offensive line. They're the ones that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: aren't They don't just have two hands on the ball
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and are you know, snapping it through their legs anymore.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: They've got one hand on the ball and they've got
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: their head up and our eyes looking out surveying the defense,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: looking at what the line's giving him, looking how many
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: guys are in the box, looking how many guys are
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: going to be coming through which hole, and how you're
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: gonna you know, protect.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That, and probably a lot more. Like we're just a
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: couple of dudes, we know very little. You played offensive
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: line in high school, Yeah, but I wouldn't even count
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: that like that that wasn't But I'm.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Just saying, like, you have more experience than I do,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: but like.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Two minutes more experience than you do. I didn't even
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: get on the field. But like I'm just saying, like
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: that's we know that that's all the case, and they
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: do a lot, but there's probably so much more that
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: we would never even guess, And like, holy cow, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: could never even, you know, like analytically be a center,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: let alone physically, you know.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: So anyways, I like the guy, I guess, that's what
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make. And I think he's a smart player,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and I think I think his only downside was that
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: he was just a little undersized and he got bullied.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: And I think in hindsight now we can see that
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: maybe the teams in the NFC North were maybe stacking
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: their roster because they knew who was going to be
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: snapping the ball for the Vikings and they're like, okay,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that's a weakness. Or maybe it wasn't. They were drafting
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and picking up guys in free agency, but they were
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: intentionally playing guys in that nose tackle interior defensive lineman position,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: knowing that Bradbury has a tendency to get bowled over
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: from time to time. And guess what, we saw it
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a lot and it was frustrating and it seemed like
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it happened more in those divisional games than anything.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, just looking really quick, I agree with you.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the Seahawks in this game. I think
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: they'll win. Yeah, that's why they play the games. Anything
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: can happen, But I really do think the Seahawks will win.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I think they have the more well rounded, statistically better
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: team than the Patriots, even though the Patriots are still
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: a really good team. You just kind of pointed out
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: really quick the Commanders have poached a Vikings coach to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: be their defensive coordinator, Deronte Jones. Yep, was he the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: defensive backs coach?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: No? I think he was see defensive line, No, see
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: defensive line.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: He's something whatever he was, he was definitely an assistant
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: on the defense. But he's taken a few I don't
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: know if he took any head coaching interviews, but definitely
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: a couple defensive coordinator interviews this cycle. But yeah, it
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: does seem like the Washington Commanders have hired him to
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: be their new defensive coordinator. So I maybe that makes
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: life a little bit harder.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: For you're right, defensive backs and past coordinator.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so maybe it makes life a little bit
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: more difficult for Brian Flores. Maybe we're going to get
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: a Grant Yudinsky effect where we didn't really know how
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: valuable Denontae Jones was until he was gone. But happy
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: for him, But yeah, it kind of stinks when your
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: team loses some assets there, especially coaching. I think we
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: talk about Bradbury. I think him alone has shown me
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: how important good coaching is, because you can be good
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and athletic and smart, but if the scheme's not right,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: if the coaching's not right, then you know, you get
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: years where guys who are really good look like they
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: don't deserve to be in the NFL at all. So
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: good coaching is good. Hopefully the Vikings are able to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: fill those shoes pretty quickly and adequately, Like I was saying, though,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I looked up the Seahawks roster. They do have Sam Darnold,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: former Viking kim Akers.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was kind of in and out of
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the Vikings and a few other teams, but he signed
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: with the Seahawks so he's.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Been on their practice squad for a few weeks. But
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I think I just saw in the last couple of
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: days they elevated him him to the fifty three man roster.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: And they've had who was there running back that towards
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: it was it Charboney Charboney, Yeah, Zach Scharboney, Yeah, carbon
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: At Sharboney he like towards a c L a few
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. So their running back position needs more help.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think those are most of the notable
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: former Vikings on on the roster. But yeah, I think
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are gonna pull it out. I'll give like
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: a score prediction next week before the game, but either way,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be I think it'll be a
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: good game. I don't think there's a blowout here.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and two young up and coming coaches that have
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: really uh found their way to success really quickly. Vraybel
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: and Mike mc daniel. Yeah, McDonald is McDaniel.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: McDaniel.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I always get him and.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, dang it now you're now you're making me.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Question Dolphins coach. What's it?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also McDaniel. So maybe it's wrong, is it McDonald?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's his name?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald?
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Right? Was? I was maybe right to second guess myself. Anyways,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, the interesting thing about him is he's just
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: he's quiet. I don't think he's a super like out
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: there leader in terms of like the media and you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: just the public guy. But no, all that to say,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Rabel and McDonald young coaches who have found a way
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to flip their teams quickly and now here they are
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: going to compete for a Super Bowl. I think both
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: of them are in year two. Is that correct?
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Potentially that Rabel's.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I know Vrabel's year two because they were this is
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: his first year, this Iss head coach.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: He was the Titans coach for a few years.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You're right, but this might be McDonald's second.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe you're right, Yeah, because Carroll was there
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: for a long time. But yeah, yeah, both franchises have
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: flourished under their current head coaches. Vrabel may end up
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: winning Coach of the Year. I don't really know who
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: else could do it after taking over. I think the
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Patriots won four games last year and.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: It was Super Bowl.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: What was his name, Girod Mayo as their head coach
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: last year. He was a one and done and I
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: think Robert Kraft has said like that was one of
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the most expensive decisions he ever made, was firing Girod Mayo.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: But hey, it's so far working out for him because.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: He's getting back to the Super Bowl.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: And don't feel bad for Drod Mayo. These coaches when
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: they get fired, their their contracts are guaranteed unless they
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: do something horrific and they get fired for cause. I
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: think Mayo was just fired because he wasn't successful, So
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: he's probably financially doing okay, especially after being a player
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: for so many years.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk more, I'm sure about the Super Bowl,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if some major storyline develops
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: between now and next Monday when we record, which will
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: still be a week from the big game, so we'll
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: have plenty of time to talk about anything Super Bowl related.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: But for now, Patriots Seahawks, they're gonna play in San Francisco.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Should be a good game. I'll watch it, everybody will
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: watch it. But more to come on that. Let's backtrack
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, because we talked about this a
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: little bit. In fact, you gave him your game ball.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: He was a thorn honestly for me. So kind of
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: we have contrasting views of Sam Darnald, but it's more
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: than just Sam Darnald. The Vikings find themselves in this quagmire,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in this really like between a rock and a hard
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: place of a quarterback situation.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I just can't get past this. What an
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: excellent English teacher flex there. I don't even know if
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: you use the word right, but you just drop the
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: word quagmire. And no, we're not even talking about Family
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Guy right now. That was that was impressive.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: That's a Family Guy reference. I don't watch Family Quagmire.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Is like a Family Guy character, and he's like a
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: really really like such a sleazy, like creepy dude. That's
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: always like like Quagmire and Family Guy has done some
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: horrific things probably and uh.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you just need to so the definition the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: definition is an awkward, complex, or hazardous situation.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you used it right THEREV, so'm
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I just derailed us for a minute. I don't want
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: one word that was used correctly that you don't hear
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: all the time to derail us too much. So keep going.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: We're in a quagmire of a situation, right It's it's complex,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: possibly hazardous, it's we laugh. I mean, this is just
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: this is the plight of Vikings fans, right, Like you
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: have to laugh about stuff like this, otherwise it's just
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: sad because here we are yet again, how many years
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: have we been doing the show?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: This is our third full football season of the school
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: hop that we've gone from beginning of the season to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the end. We've completed three seasons, and all we've really
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: talked about for one hundred and twenty four episodes now
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: is the Vikings quarterback. Yep. It was Kirk Cousins, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: then he got hurt, and then it was who's going
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: to replace him? And it was a couple of guys
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: for a while, and then it was, well, Kirk's leaving,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? And then he left and then they
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: brought in a bunch of guys. And I'm not going
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: to rehash all of that because you can go back,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: snip snap, snip snap. You check out our TikTok yep listener,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: go back and listen to all of our previous episodes
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: if you want to hear any of that. But where
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: we are now is just as complex, just as like
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: it's that like question mark question mark, question mark, question
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: mark text that you send to your friend where you're like,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Know what you're doing.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Like, that's what I would send to the Vikings right
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: now if I could, if I could text them, I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: would just send them a whole line of question marks,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: like what are what's going on? What are we doing?
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Because JJ McCarthy didn't seem to show a whole lot
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: this season. Our fourteen win quarterback from two seasons ago
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: is going to the super Bowl.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Which after winning fourteen games again with another.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's bittersweet. It's hard to swallow.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: So here's my burning question for the day. That was
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: quite the build up. Yeah, and maybe a little bit dramatic,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit hyperbolic. That's all right. We're a podcast.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: We're just trying to generate some traffic here. But here's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: my burning question. Did the Vikings make a mistake? And
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I want you to answer this honestly, did the Vikings
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: make a mistake in letting Sam Darnold to go?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You know me.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You know I'm classic for being asked basically a yes
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: or no question answers, and then I'll talk for five
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: minutes and basically like maybe yes, maybe no. That's usually
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: what I do. So I'm gonna flip the script. I'm
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: still gonna talk for five minutes, okay, but I'm gonna
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: answer the yes or no question right now.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Let me sit back and drink my beer.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Did the Vikings make a mistake in letting Sam Darnold go? Yes,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: yes they did. But let me lay things out, not
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: necessarily for you, Evan, but for the listeners, for everybody.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Just give like a ten thousand foot view of this
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: whole situation. Quarterback plan, since Kirk Cousins tore his achilles,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: let's go all the way back twenty twenty three. Yeah,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: that was our first season as a skull hop. Kirk
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Cousins started off slow, started playing well toar his achilles.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Kirk Cousin tears his achilles and it's this question of like,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: all right, did the Vikings His contract was up during
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: that after that season, so he may never play for
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: the Vikings again. Turns out the Vikings opted not to
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: offer them a multi year contract. Then they set in
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: motion this plan where they were going to take their
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: high first round draft pick. At the time, it was
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: at number eleven and twenty three I think they got
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: from the Texans, and I think their plan was to
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: leverage those picks and at least in the first round
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: of that year twenty twenty four, come away with a
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: first round quarterback. There were a handful. There ended up
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: being six guys drafted in the first round that year.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: All of them have shown flashes of being good slash great.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: That was one of the better quarterback drafts so far
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: recent history.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: So their plan once they let Kirk Cousins walk was
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: take their first round pick, whatever their highest one ended
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: up being after trades or whatever, take that quarterback, and
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: tie that quarterback to Quac and Koc's future as Vikings coach,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: executive whatever you want to call it. As a part
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: of that plan, they also decided, hey, we need a
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: bridge quarterback. We need somebody who can hold the reins
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: if you know, this rookie that we draft in the
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: first round is not ready by week one. So they
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: went out and they got Sam Donald, who was a
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: backup out of the forty nine ers after one season
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: in San Francisco, and they gave him ten million bucks
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: to be their bridge quarterback to be there, you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: QB one until the franchise. You know, highest drafted quarterback
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: in Vikings history is ready to be QB one. So
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the plan was, you know, let Sam Donald hold that
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: starter spot until who they ended up drafting was JJ McCarthy,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: until he was ready to take the reins, whether that
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: was as an open competition in camp or OTAs or
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: some point in the season of Sam Donald threw too
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: many interceptions. Whatever, the plan was Sam with JJ's QB
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: two and then JJ taking over whenever he was ready.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: JJ and Sam had a few weeks of training camp,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: and then JJ looked really well in his first preseason game,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: and then the next day turns out he had season
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: ending knee injury knee surgery because of him in six tear.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: So they're rolling with Sam Donald for all of twenty
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: twenty four and he balled out. So then they're in
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: a tough spot. Where do they go with the hot hand,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: the guy that just balled out for a whole season,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: even though he had an iffy last couple of games
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: for you in the last you know, at the end
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: of the season and lost to you the playoffs pretty much.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Or do you stick with the plan and let JJ
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: McCarthy take the reins and be the QB of the future.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: The Vikings could have given Sam Donald one hundred plus
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: million dollars for three or four years and abandoned JJ
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: McCarthy or kind of given him the Jordan Love treatment,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: let him sit for a few years and then maybe
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: maybe takeover, or maybe you just wasted that pick. Ultimately,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: the Vikings went with the plan. Sounds like they did
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: try to offer Sam Donald a one or two year
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: contract for decent money, but Sam smartly took longer term,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: more money with a really good team in Seattle, and
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: it's turning into a Super Bowl berth and maybe a
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl championship. We don't know. We won't know for
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: a few weeks, and the Vikings the only reason we're
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: we're even talking about this is because JJ McCarthy came
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: out and looked not awesome, showed flashes of being okay,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: flashes of like a week one of the season, he
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: was an offensive Player of the week, he nine flash
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and he came out and he looked like, Okay, maybe
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: we got something. And then this season was kind of
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: a wash. But that's the only reason we're even talking
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: about this. If jj McCarthy had come out and thrown
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: four thousand yards, twenty touchdowns and ten interceptions, were like, ah, sure,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald would have been nice to keep, but we
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: got a guy that's not the case. So that's where
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: we are. Now. Did the Vikings make a mistake in
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: letting Sam Donald go? Hindsight, yes, they absolutely made a mistake.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: They from what we know right now, they should have
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: stopped it. Nothing to give Sam Donald all the money
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: and all the years, and you wouldn't have gotten Will
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Fries and maybe you'd have to get rid of Van
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Ginkel and trade away Grenard and maybe that affects your
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: ability to pay Justin Jefferson or Christian Daris saw but
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you'd have to figure out the money. But you'd stick
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: with Sam Donald. You got your quarterback, and maybe you
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: get to the super Bowl. I don't know, but either way,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings were smart. It just sucks that
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: it hasn't worked out yet. End of rant. That was good.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was a really succinct summary of basically
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: like the whole path that we've walked as Vikings fans
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: since starting this podcast. I mean, obviously we've been fans
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: for much longer than that, but I mean that's the
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: road we've walked since we've had these microphones in our
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: face documenting our takes and our opinions on what's happening
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: with our favorite team for the last three years. But
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to disagree with you, all right a
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: little bit, because I think in this league, if you
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: constantly live in the past, you fall behind. If you
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: constantly live in what would have, could have shoulda you're
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: sitting at home in January. In February, you're not playing football,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: You're done right. And so you know, if I'm Kevin O'Connell,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: if I'm Quasi, I'm not sitting on my couch right
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: now bemoaning the fact that Sam Darnold doesn't play for
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: the Vikings and he's going to the Super Bowl with
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I'm happy for the guy. I'm maybe sending
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: him a congratulatory text like him in congrats, will be
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: cheering for you, right, like good for you. But I'm
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: not at all like mourning the fact that what was us.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: We could have had him, that could be us, We
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: could be the ones head of the super Bowl right now,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Like that only puts you farther back, That only pushes
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you away from success rather than towards success. And so
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you know, we always say it and it's cliche, but
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: hindsight is twenty twenty. Well, yeah, we can look back
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: on the decisions we made and regret them, or we
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: can look forward to the decisions that have yet to
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: be made and try to make the best possible decisions
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: that there are. And I think that's what faces the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Vikings right now, right Is JJ McCarthy the answer or
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: is he not? And I think in training camp they
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: got to figure that out. Is he the answer or not?
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: If he's not, then you need to figure something else
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: out because the Vikings cannot endure another season like they
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: have and they can't continue in this pattern of And
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Dustin Baker has tweeted this, and I think he's even
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: articulated it, perhaps even on our show where the Vikings
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: go in this like they're mid one season and then
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: they're good another season and they're mid, then they're good, then
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: they're mid, then they're good, then they're mid, then they're good. Well,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: we just got done with a mid season, So you
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: would expect the Vikings to elevate themselves to the good
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: category in the twenty twenty six campaign, which would be exciting.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: But I want the Vikings to be good for a
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: few years, several years. I want the Vikings to go
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: on a like Kansas City Chiefs type of run, or
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: even like an Eagles or a forty nine or like
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: name any any team that has had sustained success with
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: some of these really really good coaches in Shanahan and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Sirianni and fill in the blank right, like, there have
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: been some good teams that have had a lot of success.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I put this question in here because
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I put this question, and did the Vikings make the mistake? Right?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Should they have let go of Sam Darnold. Well, we
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: can sit here and we can wallow in that all
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: we want ho whoe is us? We should have should
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: have kept him, We should have paid whatever he wanted. Right,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: King's Ransom he can stay and we'll shoot. Well, Christian Darisa,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: he can go like, we'll find another left tackle. It's
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: fine and right like fill in the blank. Yeah, let's
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: keep this guy. And No. We could sit here all
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: day and talk in that cycle, and I think that's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a waste of time. What can we do moving forward?
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Where are we now? How can we take what we
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: have and how can we take that and be successful
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: in the future. So I'm gonna say the Vikings didn't
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: make a mistake. I'm gonna quote Moneyball, which I know
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: you love it when I do.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I hate that movie, So I know you like it
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: because you like it so much. I would have forgotten
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: about that. I watched it once, like what ten years ago,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I would have forgotten it existed. But you just keep
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: bringing up this darn movie that's so good. You can
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: like it. That's fine. I don't hate you for liking it.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: There's a good moment, and it's relevant to this conversation.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: At the beginning or towards the beginning of the movie,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Billy Bean goes to Cleveland to talk with the Cleveland
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: owner about trading for some players and whatever. And that's
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: where Peter Brand is and Peter Brand is like talking
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: to guys when Billy Bean and the Cleveland manager are
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: at bartering, and he's telling the guys like, no, no,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna do that. So Billy Bean seeks Peter
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Brand out in the office later and he's like, whose
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: nephew are you? Why did why did? Why does Mark
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: listen to you? And blah blah blah. And finally they
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: go to the parking garage and I don't know if
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: this actually happened in real life, but in the movie
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that's how it happens, and Peter Brand tries to explain
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: to him, all, you know, this is this is why
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I said what I said in the meeting, blah blah blah,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and he makes the comment he said because at the point,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: at the historical point, the Oakland A's had just given
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: up Jason Giambi. He was the first baseman for the
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: A's for a long time. He was really good. They
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: traded him to New York to the Yankees, and uh,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a big deal, like one of
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: your better players got shipped off to one of the
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: better teams in the history of baseball. And Peter Brand
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Jonah Hill's character kind of the like nerdy analyst character
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: tells Billy being the jock owner, not owner but president
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: CEO g GM of the A's he says, Honestly, I
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: think it's good that you got gimb off your roster
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: because it opens up a whole lot of possibilities. And
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I think that sentiment applies right. Honestly, I think it's
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: good that we got an expensive guy like Sam Darnold
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: off the payroll because it opens up a whole lot
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: of possibilities. It opened up the possibility of revamping the
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: offensive line. Now that turned out to be a dud.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: And not really because I mean, yeah, Ryan Kelly, you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: loved the guy. He seems like a good guy. And
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: for his health, he's probably done. And it's not necessarily
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: his fault. It's not like we saw him like, oh,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: he's such an idiot. He did this, so then he
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: got a concussion, it's his fault. That's not the case.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: He just got concussions. You can't control that. But Will Fryes,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, without being an expert on you know what
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: a really good offensive lineman is, I think statistically he
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: was pretty good. He's expensive, but sometimes you gotta pay
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: for offensive line, so, and but you can't fault Christian
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Darsow for not being one hundred percent. But anyways, but.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Like it also opened up possibilities for like Christian Darsaw
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: getting a big extension, which was big and he's deserving
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: of it. And it's unfortunate that he was a little
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: slower to come back from injury and he was kind
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: of on this pitch count, and I think I think
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: he knew that at some point, like I'm not going
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: to play in a bunch of games just to not
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I'm going to pull myself out, get
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: healthy and hope that we can make another run next year.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of guys do that nowadays,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: which is unfortunate. But there are other things too, right
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: like not keeping Sam Darnold at I think the price
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: tag was one hundred million for three years or something
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like that was what he had kind of wanted, and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he ultimately got roughly in Seattle.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I think he's worth that, and I absolutely agree that
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: he's worth that. But again, the the Peter Brand sentiment
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: from the Moneyball movie, I think it's actually okay that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: you got him off the payroll because it opens up
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of other possibilities, but that all comes
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: with a caveat, And this kind of comes back to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the point I've been trying to make. It all comes
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: with the caveat of if you have answers at the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: most important position, right, and you don't have to pay
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: a quarterback one hundred million dollars over three years to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: be good in this league. In fact, the Patriots aren't
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: paying Drake May one hundred million dollars over three years.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Will They're paying him a decent amount, but he's on
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: his rookie contract, so he's cheap right.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, right now, And if it gets him a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: super Bowl, now awesome. But Drake May and JJ McCarthy
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: are both of the age that their draft class is
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: going to be one of the first, and I think
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Dustin Baker has said this before too, the Drake May,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams bo Nick's that draft class is going to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: be one of the first to where quarterbacks on their
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: second contract if they're good enough, which winning a super
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Bowl kind of puts you in that category. If they're
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: good enough, they're going to start commanding sixty plus million
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: dollars a year. That's pat mahomes money right now, and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: he's one of the goats. You're going to get to
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: the point where just you know, a handful of playoff
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: wins is going to demand sixty plus million dollars a year.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: So the Patriots will be paying for that somebody, if
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: not the Patriots, will be paying Drake made that much money.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: And hopefully the Vikings have that conversation here in a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: few years with JJ McCarthy. I'm not predicting it, but
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: I'm saying hopefully. But yeah, when you can having a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: rookie contract quarterback, if he's good, that's a luxury. That's
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: a huge luxury because you're getting sixty million dollars of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: value for I don't know what is JJ McCarthy making
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: this year. Two million dollars.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: It's more than that, I gotta say, but I don't know.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: But he's definitely a million about He's he's a bargain
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: quarterback at this point. But he's bargain quality, I would say,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: right like he's he's dollar tree quality at the quarterback position.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Like he was bottom of the league in most statistical
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: categories at one point. We were like we were calling
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: for his head at one point in the season, Like
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: get him out of here. He's terrible. He threw what
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: three or four picks in a game and had like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: a thirty eight QBR or something like that. Like I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: think the stat was out there and it happened again
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: to another quarterback this season, but like he could have
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: kneeled the ball on every play and had a finished
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: with a better QBR than he actually did. So like,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: we experienced some really low lows with JJ McCarthy this year.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: And that's what's concerning about him, right, is like he.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Only ever had two picks in a game at a time,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: but he did that lot four times out of ten starts,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: So he.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Is a forty rate of two pick games.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild, But anyways, I just wanted to correct
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: that in real time there three or four is way
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: different than two and two is not good.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: So well, So anyways, I'm just I'm perpetually frustrated a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: little bit by the fact that we find ourselves in
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: this cycle of getting our hopes up and then our
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: hopes quickly being dashed by poor quarterback play. And I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: think that just goes to show how important that position
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: is in the grand scheme of this game. And how
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: this league is set up, and I think that applies
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: all the more pressure to your GM and your coach
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: to get the right guy on the field under center,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: reading the defense, calling the plays, and ultimately making the play.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm longing for some consistency. Yeah, in that position,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I want to see the Vikings have the Patrick Mahomes
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: or the Brock Party or the Joe Burrow without all
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: the injuries. Like I want to see the Vikings just
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: have the guy and know that the guy is there,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's ready to go. Yeah, there are gonna
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: be some hiccups along the way. They're going to maybe
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: be like one or two bad games along the way,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, we've got a dang good
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: quarterback and he knows how to sling it and knows
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: how to hand the ball off when he needs to,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and he's a game manager. He checks all the boxes.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: He's the Vikings quarterback. I long for those days.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: And I think for the most part, you just described
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: the ceiling of JJ McCarthy. You said it that we've said.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: You just said it a few minutes ago. We probably
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: said on the show, Sit McCarthy, you know he's done,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: he's cooked. He's terrible, Let's get somebody else, trade him away,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: cut him whatever. Like we probably said stuff like that,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: and we probably meant it at the time. But now
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: that the season's over, and now that I've had some
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: time to reflect and look a little bit more on
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: the highlights and stuff like that, and really think about
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: it overall as a season, as a whole, big picture,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: rather than in the moment. I think JJ McCarthy has
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: shown flashes. He has shown parts of games or even
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: whole games where he's been decent, and there has been
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: a few times he's shown holy cow, that was a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: freaking incredible throw I'm thinking of. I think it was
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: the first game he played against the Lions, well the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: only game because he didn't play the second game, but
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: one of the throws he had against the Lions, I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: think Tom Brady was the TV announcer. He made a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: throw that required JJ justin Jefferson to kind of come
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: back to the ball, but it was all planned. It
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't a fluke thing. And when he made that throw,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: even Tom Brady was like whoa Like, y'all can't even
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: believe that was a freaking incredible throw. And JJ probably
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: had a handful of those times where it's like, my
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: freaking goodness, how did he make that throw? He had
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: a couple of those in the Green Bay game at
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: the end of the season before he decided to pull
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: himself out for the rest of the game, which I'll
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: never be okay with. But whatever I think, genuinely think,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: you know. January twenty six, twenty twenty six, My opinion
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: is JJ McCarthy can be something great. He has shown flashes,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: enough flashes for me to say I'm okay with them
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: rolling with him as QB one into twenty twenty six.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Do I want the Vices to have a good insurance
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: quarterback not named Carson Wentz that they sign four days
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: before the season starts. Yes, I want them to have
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: a guy that maybe I would prefer a legitimate competition
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: at quarterback in training camp all throughout the offseason. And
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: maybe that's Mac Jones, maybe that's you know, somebody else.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, all the big names. If they get
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson, like, that's not a competition,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: it's those guys. But I think JJ can do it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: And I am still rooting for a full on, fair,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: open competition for QB one and I think a fully
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: healthy with the right offensive line and the right tools
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: and the more maturity JJ McCarthy, he is capable of
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: winning the QB competition and being good. This season, though,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: will be very telling twenty twenty six, regardless of who's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: in your or you know what wide receiver tipped what
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: passed so that it became an interception. This season is
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: it's gotta be a cutthrow season for Quacy and for
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, more so for me for Quacy, because if
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy turns out to show you this season, this
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: coming season that yeah, he's just not it, there's not
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: even flashes of being good, Kevin O'Connell might be gone.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, we saw Sean McDermott get fired after winning
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: a playoff game. True, we saw John Harbaugh get fired.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: We saw Mike Tomlin. He didn't get fired, but he
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: walked away. And usually don't just leave a job that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: only thirty two people in the world can have because
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: you're tired, you know. I think this season will be
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: huge for the Vikings. This offseason is going to be
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. There's going to be additions, maybe
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: more surprising subtractions. Who knows, but I think either way,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: this quarterback position is step one. It'll be fun, all right.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I want to do something real quick, and then I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: think we should.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Wrap this up. Let's do it. I want you to
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: just answer yes or no. It's all I want you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to do. But you can't do promise yes or no.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: You cannot do the typical Austin beat around the bush.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: This is quick hitting. This is just like rapid fire.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Because we're running out of time here. All right, I'm
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: gonna fall asleep. I'm tired. So I want to know
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: your honest thoughts.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Hold on, you just said yes or no and then
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: honest thoughts. Those are two different things.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Ev honest thoughts in yes or no form.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, I got it.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: But right now, and I mean with the caveat of
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: your answers can change.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Later this podcast.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: We can do whatever we want right now. January twenty sixth,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Six you're hyping this up way too much, all right.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: You ready? The Vikings will have a winning record in
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: the coming football season, Yes, okay. JJ McCarthy will be
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback in more games than any other quarterback
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty six campaign.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Justin, can we caveat injury for that? We could,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: because like I'm just I want to know. Will he
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: quarterback more games than anybody else? Yes? Yes, but like
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: there's the possibility that he looks like an MVP through
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: six weeks and then tears his ACL. That's why I'm saying.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna sit
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: here a year from now and so who you said?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: And then he you know, he tore his other ACL
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm not gonna hold you to that.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Yes, okay, barring injury.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, Justin Jefferson has a career year in twenty twenty six.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Who can I ask a question? Yeah, what do you
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: define his career year for Justin Jefferson.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Equivalent to or better than twenty twenty two?
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I mean that was I wasn't offensive players?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I know? Yes? Or no? No? Ooh okay, all right,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: that's fair. That's fair. Aaron Jones returns and is the
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: leading rusher for the Vikings.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Those are two different questions. Can I separate them?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: He can, Yes, he returns, No, he's not the leading rusher.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's let's flip sides of the ball
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: really quick. Uh. Blake Cashman leads the team in tackle. Yes, okay,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that's an easy one.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: You could have just said Blake Cashman and I would
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: have said yes.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: The defense outperforms the offense in twenty twenty six. No, okay,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Harrison Smith returns him twenty six.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, unfortunately, and it breaks my heart. But no, I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: think I think he's probably done.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Final question, the Viking win more than one playoff game
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: next season? No, okay, honest thoughts from a Vikings fan.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: And that's not doom and gloom. That's not Oh. I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: love this team, but man, they suck. Everything's gonna be terrible.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe, if you had said the Vikings win a playoff game,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: I'd probably say yes, But I.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Said more than one, which indicates they wouldn't at least two.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: No, I think there's a real chance four hundred days
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: from now we are talking about a different head coach
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Vikings. I don't want that. I'm not
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: necessarily predicting that, but I think.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Do you think this can be a You can answer
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: in more than yes or no, But do you think
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: if KOs gets fired let's say three hundred and sixty
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: five days from now. Yeah, that it's under similar terms
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: two or maybe just slightly under Sean McDermott and the Bills, like.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: You know, because so McDermott he was fired because I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: think ownership believed that he took a team from the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel and got it, squeezed every last
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: drop of everything he could get out of that team.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's not terrible or it's not unrealistic to
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: think that a good an okay coach can take a
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: terrible team and turn them into a playoff team. It's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: the great coaches, the great staffs that win Super Bowls.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Or or is it less about the coach because I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: think we're seeing and we've already talked about it. I'm
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: just playing Devil's advocate here maybe a little bit, But like,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: are we seeing a league where it's better to be bad,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: like really bad and then you can flip really quickly
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: as opposed to being mediocre pretty much all the time
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: and then trying to just incrementally get better. Because I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: think that's maybe where the vikings are. And it comes
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: back to the Dustin Baker sentiment of mid good mid good,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: mid good, and you know here we are. The Vikings
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: finished five and oh to end this last season, and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: they finished with a winning record nine and eight. Like
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: that's not terrible. I mean no, Mike Tomlin has chalked
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: up a nine and eight record to a winning season
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: how many times and added that to his resume. I'm
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: a winning coach. And it didn't feel like a winning season.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: It sucked and it was hard to endure as a
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Vikings fan. But like, we haven't in our lifetime really
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: experienced I think I saw this the other day. The
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Vikings have never lost, or no, I should say it
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: the other way. The Vikings have never never won less
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: than three games in a season. They've never been a
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: two in whatever team, one and whatever team or oh
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: and whatever team. And I know that the total number
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: of games in a season has changed from you know,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the eighties till now. But I guess that comes back
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: to the point I'm trying to make of, like is
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: it better to just go like the Lions did, oh
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: and whatever, one and whatever, two and whatever, or the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Patriots last year four and thirteen last year to now
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl this year. The Seahawks a
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, weren't great under.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll got him fired, right, Like, is it better
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: to just is it better to tank? Right? Is that
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: the question we're asking here? Is it better to just tank? Fire?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody start over, accumulate draft capital, and you know, have
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: a bunch of cap space to work with so you
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: can bring in a bunch of free agents. Is that
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: where we're at in the league today?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: If that were the case, then the Browns would be
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: perennial Super Bowl champions.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: I think the Browns have deeper problems than that.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: The thing is, like, I think an organization that's fine,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: you know, good owners, Okay coaches, you know, good coach
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: scouting and everything like that. An organization that's like they
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: run well, they make money, they're good. They're gonna be
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: like the Vikings and just be you know, seven and
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: ten Cowboys, nine and eight Cowboys. They're gonna be those ones.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: They're already they're always picking between the tenth pick and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: the twentieth pick, and maybe one year they'll get the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: third pick, and one year they'll get the twenty eighth pick.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: But like usually like they're just in the middle of
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: the pack. Those are well run, business oriented organizations. Terrible organizations.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Those are the Lions up until the last few years,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: the Browns, the Cardinals for most of our childhood. You know,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: those organizations where it's like, man, they're just they're always awful.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Well, what about Carolina. Carolina was good for a while,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: like when we were kids, they were good, and then
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: they went through the David Tepper years the.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Owner of he's still the owner.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's gone well.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Even Carolina since their existence, they've kind of been mid
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: and then they've made the Super Bowl a few times
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: in our lifetime. Oh twice in our lifetime, I think.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: And they won Super Bowl, didn't they know?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: They lost to the Patriots when we were ten ish
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: years old. They lost to the Broncos when Cam Newton
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: didn't jump on the on the fumble. I don't think
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: they've ever won, but they've been at least twice.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: David Tepper is still the owner. Okay, yeah, But.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: To answer your question, I think the Vikings are a
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: well run organization. I think the owners are good. I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: think business wise they're a successful business. But I mean
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: you get teams like look at the Patriots, Robert Kraft.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: I think I saw something. His team has won in
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: like thirty two ish years of owning the Patriots, his
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: team has been in the Super Bowl something like eleven times.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: That's a different organization. That's a different team than the Vikings,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: who have never in modern era, never gone to the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I mean, I think it's coaching. I think
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: I think Mike Vrabel got a lot of coaches fired
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: this year. Owners were sitting there looking at the Patriots,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: who have been kind of dysfunctional since Tom Brady left.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: They already shipped out Bill Belichick. Yeah, they fired him. Yeah.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: It was like, oh, we love this guy, and we'll
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: give him a retirement ceremony, but they fired him. I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: think Mike Vrabel coming in being a decent coach, a
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: good coach, taking a team that was dysfunctional last year
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: with four wins, taking them to the playoffs alone was
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: enough to get other coaches or other teams to be like,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: you know what, Sean McDermott, you've been kind of there,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: but we see the best you can give.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: You're gone.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: We need we need to be better than this. Mike Tomlin,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: you've never had a losing season, You've won two Super Bowls.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: That was fifteen plus years ago. Yeah, let's get over
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: that hump. I think team seeing Mike Vrabel being a
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: good coach with mostly the same team that only won
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: four games last year proved to a lot of owners like,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: oh crap, we can do that, Like that's okay. The
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: beautiful part of the NFL is the salary cap, and
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: every team should be you know, competitive every year because
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: they should be allowed to play pay in the same amount.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Haven't you said that the myth? The cap is a myth.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: The cap is a myth, but it still comes back
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: to bite you. I think the Saints have been paying
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: for their poor management of Drew Brees' contract for the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: last what five years since Drew Brees retired. They'll balance
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: out eventually, but you're mortgaging out, like the cap is
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: a myth, but you still got to pay for every dollar.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm burpin, but I think that this year
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: has proven, with the firing of some big name coaches,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: that having a winning record isn't good enough for owners
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: that truly care about championships. Winning one playoff game isn't
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: good enough for owners that really care about winning championships.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, these these owners. Now they're saying, I don't
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: care who you are, what your name is, or how
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: many Super Bowls you've won before. If you're not doing
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: it now, you need to go so I can pay
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: and compete with my buddies over here who are winning
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: super Bowls. In my face.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Well, it kind of seems too like maybe you're saying
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: that it's not even just a coaching or a GM
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: problem in Minnesota. Maybe it's an ownership problem.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe the Wolfs are the problem, and maybe they're but
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: everything you know, yeah, but everything we've heard is, hey,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: they they do pony up whenever there's a Kirk Cousins
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: coming to town and we need to pay him eighty
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: something million dollars guaranteed. The Wolves seem to just say, Okay,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I trust you, Rick Spielman, this is what's gonna get
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: us to the super Bowl. Okay, we'll pull for it.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: And you've got to you've got to think too. Like
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: the ownership can and probably does not just to approve
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: and sign off on they're right in the checks whatever
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: with salary cap stuff, but they can probably also say like, okay,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: you like when Kirk came to town, right like they wind
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: and dine that guy like he was, which.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to spend Let's just go ridiculous and say on
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: that night that they were the few days that they
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: brought him into wine and dine. Let's just pretend they
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: spent ten thousand dollars on meals and you know, meetings,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: and that's everything else.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Changed to guys like these. But I mean, somebody's got
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: to write those checks. And I don't think Kevin O'Connell,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Brian Flores, even Quasia dofa Mensa are gonna like go
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: out of their way and pay out of their own
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: pocket for stuff like that. That's going to fall on ownership.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: So to some extent, like they can, they can pay
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: for stuff outside of the cap that draw people to
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: the organization. But I think you might be onto something.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: I think that could be something that we'd discuss really
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: at length over the course of this offseason and in
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: the next season. What is the role of the head
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: coach and is the head coach maybe the ultimate position
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: in football in pro football is the quarterback position just
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: kind of this penultimate step, like, yeah, he's important and
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: he's dictating a lot of what happens on the field,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: but it all falls under the head coach, and how
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: the head coach leads the team, and their game management
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: and their play calling strategy and anything else that way,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: you might be onto something.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: I think if you're looking at the season as a whole,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: the GM is infinitely important because they're making the roster decisions.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: If you're looking at individual games, the head coach is
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: the most important person. But then I mean, everywhere you go,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks coach is huge, The quarterback himself is huge,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinators here, it's all such a team thing
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: that if one person in that cog at any point
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: in the year does something wrong, it could be the
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: difference of a Super Bowl or or a four and
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: thirteen season like we saw with the Patriots last year.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Well, and it's almost even kind of like the product
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: on the field, right, Like, if one player is injured,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: it can really derail the whole product on the field.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: So if one person in the front office doesn't do
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: their job, if the GM or the head coach or
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: another coach or another person in the front office makes
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: the wrong decision, hires the wrong person, does the wrong thing,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: it can really unravel the whole thing. And yeah, I
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: think the on the field product is so much the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: result of a ton of different people at work. It's
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: hard to pinpoint it. But at the end of the day,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: there are only a handful of people responsible for those things.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: And that's what makes our favorite sport maybe the perfect
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: professional sport there is. Football's awesome because you can be
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: the Patriots and go from four and thirteen to suit
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: bowld appearance, if not champions, because there's so many people
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: that have to do their job right. And if your
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: favorite team does their job right one hundred percent of
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: the time for one season, boom, you don't forget it
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Well and maybe, just maybe, JJ McCarthy puts all of
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: the doubts, all of the hate, all of the the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: thirty six QBR games behind him, and he has that
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: one miraculous season and it's one for Vikings fans to
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: remember next year. That'd be awesome. I'd love it everything
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: falls in line. Super Bowl champs.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm That's what I'm rooting for. Let's go
• 1:26:41
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• 1:26:45
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• 1:26:52
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• 1:26:55
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• 1:27:03
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• 1:27:36
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• 1:28:22
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• 1:28:25
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• 1:28:29
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• 1:29:20
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• 1:29:22
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• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: our former quarterback win the Super Bowl.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: A few weeks. We'll see his Excuse me, I'm getting tired. Yeah,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: his oblique injury kind of worries me.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think that kind of got brushed under the
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: rug with his care. We're about to start a whole
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: other episode here.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it more next week, but I think
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: that's something to keep an eye on, Like will Sam
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Darnold be healthy for the Super Bowl? Like one hundred healthy?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Oh man, what a mic drop here? All right?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Van?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: Really good beer Red Rambler from peace Tree. You check
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: it out. We talked about it a lot at the
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: beginning of the episode. It's really good. I like it.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Heaven great beer. Maybe the best episode. Yeah, Schools act
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: actin at a