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More Trouble For NEW Bachelorette Taylor Frankie Paul: Filming Halted Amid Police Investigation · I Do, Part 2

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Tuesday, March seventeenth, And aren't
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  Speaker 1: Disney and ABC getting exactly what they wanted when they
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  Speaker 1: named Taylor Frankie Paul as the new Bachelorette. You do
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  Speaker 1: that because you want eyeballs, you want attention, you want ratings,
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  Speaker 1: you want headlines, and yes, you want controversy. But is
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  Speaker 1: this too far? And with that, welcome to this episode
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  Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ Robes. Aren't they getting exactly what
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  Speaker 1: they wanted when they named her the new Bachelorette? Well?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they wanted this kind of mess.
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  Speaker 2: I know they all say there's no such thing as
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  Speaker 2: bad press, but we would beg to differ and you
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  Speaker 2: would think Disney and ABC would as well when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the allegations that are now swirling around Taylor
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  Speaker 2: Frankie Paul.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's a little context. You've been seeing
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  Speaker 1: her everywhere. She's been promoted as a part of every
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  Speaker 1: big anything that happens, including the Oscars on Sunday. But
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  Speaker 1: all this is happening Rhodes as she is about to
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  Speaker 1: make her debut. Is it not this Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: It is this Sunday, March twenty second, the New Bachelorette,
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  Speaker 2: the much anticipated, perhaps even one of the most anticipated
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  Speaker 2: seasons of The Bachelorette is happening this Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: And can it not be a franchise saving season?
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  Speaker 3: That is what they were hoping for.
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  Speaker 2: And they knew when they brought on Taylor Frankie Paul
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  Speaker 2: that she already had a criminal history, certainly a moral controversial,
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  Speaker 2: massive headline grabbing scandal that involved I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: what you call it swinging.
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  Speaker 3: I guess yes, that was it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they knew that this was a controversial
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  Speaker 2: person they were putting at the helm of their biggest franchise.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a Hail Mary, I think by all accounts.
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  Speaker 1: And some even thought it was a good one, because
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  Speaker 1: this is the person who has got a very popular show,
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  Speaker 1: Mormon Wives, Secret Lines of Mormon Wives on Hulu and
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  Speaker 1: it's what third or fourth season, It's.
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  Speaker 2: Oh uh honey, it's its fourth season and they're in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of filming their fifth season right now. So
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  Speaker 2: this is about crossover promotion from Hulu to ABC. This
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  Speaker 2: is honestly everything wrapped up in a bow, except for
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  Speaker 2: the fact when you have somebody who is that much
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  Speaker 2: of a lightning rod.
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  Speaker 1: Expect lightning, and they just got lightning in the form
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  Speaker 1: of a police investigation into a domestic violence incident, so Robes.
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  Speaker 1: The first headlines about this came several days ago when
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  Speaker 1: we heard that, like you just said, Mormon Wives, in
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  Speaker 1: its fifth season of shooting, shut down production.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that is now the big headline. Mormon Wives had
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  Speaker 2: to stop production with a domestic violence investigation ongoing that
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  Speaker 2: Draper City police have confirmed is official.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't just a rumor.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know the details right now, but we do
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  Speaker 2: know that it was intense and severe enough that Mormon
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  Speaker 2: Wives had to temporarily halt production of their best show
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  Speaker 2: to date.
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  Speaker 1: And as of this recording, we don't understand that the
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  Speaker 1: production has started up again. We do eat too ropes
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  Speaker 1: from police there. They say, allegations are flying on both
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  Speaker 1: sides of this incident.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct. This is again out of Utah. They say
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  Speaker 2: they have acknowledged and confirmed. We should say that there
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  Speaker 2: is an open domestic assault investigation and it involves Taylor
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  Speaker 2: Frankie Paul and her ex boyfriend, the father of her
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  Speaker 2: youngest child, Dakota Mortensen. And if you're a fan of
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  Speaker 2: the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. You know damn well
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  Speaker 2: who Dakota is. And the spokesperson from the police department
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  Speaker 2: acknowledged that the allegations have been made in both directions.
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  Speaker 2: So Taylor is saying Dakota did something to her, and
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  Speaker 2: Dakota is saying Taylor did something to him. And this apparently,
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  Speaker 2: this back and forth was the end of February, So
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  Speaker 2: this has been in the works now for a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks, but it's making huge headlines now because production
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  Speaker 2: has halted.
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  Speaker 1: Production has halted on that show, but as far as
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  Speaker 1: we know, things are going forward on the other show
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  Speaker 1: that she is heading up, which is The Bachelorette on Sunday. Now, Robes,
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  Speaker 1: we need to be careful, need to be kind, need
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  Speaker 1: to be fair here. These are just allegations. We do
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  Speaker 1: not have any idea what is actually alleged, and everybody
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  Speaker 1: at this point at least is innocent until proven otherwise. Fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And it should be pointed out that the police
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  Speaker 2: Department made a point because can you imagine the calls
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  Speaker 2: that are just NonStop going into this police agency. They
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  Speaker 2: said that they were not going to give any more
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  Speaker 2: details because quote the DCPD respects the rights and privacy
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  Speaker 2: of all citizens without an immediate impact to public safety.
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  Speaker 2: It is the practice of the department not to release
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  Speaker 2: details related to active investigations, and I thought that was
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  Speaker 2: an interesting way to put it. Look, these two people
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  Speaker 2: aren't threats to anyone else's lives, so we don't need
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  Speaker 2: to make a public announcement, a safety announcement. We don't
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  Speaker 2: need to give any of you inquiring minds any of
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  Speaker 2: the salacious details because you don't need to know.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So that is what we get from police. Who
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  Speaker 1: have we actually heard from in all this Brobs, There's Disney, ABC,
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  Speaker 1: there's Taylor, Frankie Paul, there's the ex Who in that
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  Speaker 1: group have we actually heard something from since all of
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  Speaker 1: this happened.
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  Speaker 2: We've only gotten some posts by Taylor Frankie Paul that
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  Speaker 2: could be interpreted in a couple of different ways because
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  Speaker 2: what you put on Instagram was a little bit different
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  Speaker 2: than what you put on TikTok. But there has been
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  Speaker 2: no official public comment to date as of this recording
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  Speaker 2: from either ABC or Hulu.
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  Speaker 1: All right, what is Taylor saying? Because, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: depending on which social media platform you're looking at, you
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  Speaker 1: get a different messages from her, and the one I
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  Speaker 1: saw that stopped me in my tracks was the one
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  Speaker 1: on TikTok and which she looked like she was taking
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  Speaker 1: this not just in shride, but almost even making light
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like too busy to care and was dancing in
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  Speaker 2: her kitchen. You see the arm of a man next
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  Speaker 2: to her who starts to come into picture while she's
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  Speaker 2: dancing and laughing and lip syncing to this song, and
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  Speaker 2: so you see, and then she kind of pushes him
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  Speaker 2: out of the picture playfully so you don't get to see.
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  Speaker 2: Is it Dakota, Is it the guy who she may
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  Speaker 2: end up with or not at the end of the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 2: So she was being playful, She was teasing some mystery man,
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  Speaker 2: and she was letting us all know.
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  Speaker 3: That she's too busy to care about what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, given that, is it fair to say we should
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  Speaker 1: all interpret that as she is not taking this that seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever is going on with this police investigation into domestic violence,
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  Speaker 1: she is not, at least publicly. If I I only
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  Speaker 1: saw that, wouldn't think it was that big of a deal. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, But when you actually have a confirmed police investigation
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  Speaker 2: going on and we can get into the fact that
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  Speaker 2: this is not her first rodeo when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: these types of charges and allegations, and the last time
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  Speaker 2: this happened, she said it was the worst day of
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  Speaker 2: her life.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a very different reaction from her.
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  Speaker 1: But that's on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: That's on TikTok you well.
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  Speaker 2: On Instagram, she talks about about asking basically for people
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  Speaker 2: to understand that these aren't just storylines.
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  Speaker 3: These are our actual lives we're sharing.
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  Speaker 2: She's talking about people getting into all of the what
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  Speaker 2: happened in season four, and we'll get into that because
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  Speaker 2: it relates in a lot of ways to the Bachelorette
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  Speaker 2: this weekend and perhaps these domestic violence allegations. But she said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sharing to appease or switch storylines for anyone's entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: A big reason I continue on she's saying reality shows
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  Speaker 2: is to potentially help someone. I know this because I
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  Speaker 2: personally watched and listened to people's experience and it helped
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  Speaker 2: me take courage to share such vulnerable topics with an audience.
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  Speaker 2: My heart goes out to those around me that share
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  Speaker 2: and everyone else that continue to do so.
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  Speaker 3: The hugs will always outweigh the hate for me.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a little a lot more serious on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: and very.
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  Speaker 3: Playful on TikTok. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: It's mixed messages for sure, given all that's going on.
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  Speaker 2: But to not take these types of allegations seriously is
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  Speaker 2: a little puzzling.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Ken, this not jaywalking, This is not even speeding.
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  Speaker 1: This is domestic violence that we're talking about. We have
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  Speaker 1: not heard her side, his side. We don't know if
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  Speaker 1: anything's ever going to come with this. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: if charges are ever going to be filed. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know what her story is, his story. We gotta get
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  Speaker 1: that out. But Robes, you spoke on this a moment ago.
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  Speaker 1: This is a woman who has been charged with domestic
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  Speaker 1: violence before and ended up pleading guilty in that case
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  Speaker 1: to charges. Robes, and that was an ugly incident.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, This was in twenty twenty three. She actually was.
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  Speaker 2: She was facing misdemeanor charges of assault, criminal mischief and
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  Speaker 2: commission of domestic violence in the presence of a child.
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  Speaker 2: What she was accused of and what she even admitted
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  Speaker 2: to us.
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  Speaker 3: What happened.
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  Speaker 2: She was throwing a chair at Dakota in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of this heated fight. She says she was drunk, she
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  Speaker 2: had been drinking, and that chair accidentally hit her daughter.
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  Speaker 2: So she pleaded guilty to one count of aggravated assault.
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  Speaker 2: The other charges were dismissed, but she said that that
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  Speaker 2: was the reason. That was the night that she decided
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  Speaker 2: to get sober.
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  Speaker 1: That was also Robes an incident that police had the
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  Speaker 1: time described. I believe it was barstools where they medal.
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  Speaker 1: Even she cost a couple that incident also, it was
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  Speaker 1: reported involved choking in a involved This wasn't just an
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  Speaker 1: argument and something flew across. They describe at least that
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  Speaker 1: one Robes as a pretty significant violen scene. Yes, ABC
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  Speaker 1: Disney knew what they were doing when they decided to
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  Speaker 1: put her where she is now. We can, of course
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  Speaker 1: always she's done her time to society and you have
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  Speaker 1: whatever opinion you want keep following her or not, and
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  Speaker 1: she asks for forgiveness. People should be able to move
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  Speaker 1: on with their lives after making whatever mistakes Robe. Is
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  Speaker 1: there going to be an issue now with this show
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  Speaker 1: being as important as it as it is, the balance
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  Speaker 1: and the jeopardy of now celebrating hoisting up as a
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  Speaker 1: star someone who is now involved in another incident that
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  Speaker 1: involves violence. Baby, we're talking domestic violence. This is can
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  Speaker 1: you show it? Hey, everybody celebrate this woman looking for
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  Speaker 1: another love, look at how she's behaved in her past
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  Speaker 1: or right, this is now circling into a different type
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  Speaker 1: of storyline that are people going to be curious and
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  Speaker 1: want to watch the Bachelorette even more or go ick Abc?
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  Speaker 2: I think it will go both ways, and I do
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  Speaker 2: think that there are going to be a lot of
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  Speaker 2: finger There is going to be a lot of finger
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  Speaker 2: pointing because a lot of people could say, ABC, Disney.
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  Speaker 3: You knew exactly what you were getting now.
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  Speaker 2: I do think they might have been trying to sell
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  Speaker 2: this as a in a way, a redemptive story. Somebody
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  Speaker 2: who's learned from her past mistake, someone who has gotten sober,
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  Speaker 2: someone who has acknowledged.
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  Speaker 3: Her her pastways.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we all always want to celerate people
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  Speaker 2: who we all make mistakes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that severe.
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  Speaker 2: But we all make mistakes, and so to be able
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  Speaker 2: to applaud someone's decision to turn their lives around and
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  Speaker 2: actually find a healthy relationship, I think we can all
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  Speaker 2: get behind that supportive Yes, but this is the same
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  Speaker 2: person who she has been in a I think it's
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  Speaker 2: very fair to say a toxic and yes violent relationship
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  Speaker 2: with at times. And it has continued all the way
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  Speaker 2: through season four of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives that
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  Speaker 2: just dropped last week leading up to the Bachelorette this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: And now I wouldn't be people have to look at
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  Speaker 2: this through a different lens now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Disney and ABC though, right, are they gonna come
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  Speaker 1: out with a statement they say, Yes, we stick with her.
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  Speaker 1: She's a good person. We're gonna hang with her through
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  Speaker 1: her troubles, that she makes it through this difficult time.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna stand by a woman who is now facing
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  Speaker 1: a second domestic abuse investigation. If they want to put
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  Speaker 1: that statement out, I would love to see it. I
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  Speaker 1: would love to see it. I would love to examine it,
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  Speaker 1: and I would love to ask many, many, many questions.
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  Speaker 3: This is a network of family values we've been told.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not suggesting of what they should or shouldn't do,
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  Speaker 1: or what chance she should or shouldn't have, but d
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  Speaker 1: we are talking about out a different storyline now to
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  Speaker 1: where this is a woman and even the storyline robes
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  Speaker 1: of how can you take it seriously, really, Disney, hey
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  Speaker 1: you twenty five guys, we got a sweetheart for you.
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  Speaker 1: We really want you to fight over this woman who
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  Speaker 1: now has a background and we have video of how
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  Speaker 1: she has behaved in past relationships. Does it mean she's
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  Speaker 1: going to be like that in the future? But Robes,
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  Speaker 1: the whole story is this just meant to be a
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  Speaker 1: prime time shit sho? Is that just as long as
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  Speaker 1: you watch?
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  Speaker 2: I cannot imagine that this is what ABC and Disney
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  Speaker 2: wanted in terms of publicity, publicity leading into the Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's just ratings are all that matter.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they don't care, babe, It's possible.
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  Speaker 2: You made a very good point though, before we jumped
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  Speaker 2: on in front of the mics, and you said, man,
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  Speaker 2: imagine if the situation were reversed gender wise.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good lord, good lord.
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  Speaker 2: If this was the Bachelor instead of the Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: And a suggestion a hint of two domestic violence incidents
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  Speaker 1: against the Bachelor, how fast would that show be pulled?
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  Speaker 3: Before you could even wonder when it was gonna happen?
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  Speaker 1: How fast? All right? But folks, what is going to
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  Speaker 1: happen next with the show? Will it go forward? On
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  Speaker 1: Sunday and should it stay here.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone, as we talk about this latest controversy
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  Speaker 2: with Taylor Frankie Paul within days of the big new,
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  Speaker 2: highly anticipated season of The Bachelorette, the saving the life
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  Speaker 2: saving perhaps series, or of the Bachelorette. At least that's
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  Speaker 2: what ABC and Hulu and Disney We're all hoping that
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul was going to save the franchise by
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  Speaker 2: being the next Bachelorette. She's wildly popular, has a huge
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  Speaker 2: following online on social media, and certainly her series Secret
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  Speaker 2: Lives of Mormon Wives is the biggest show on Hulu
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  Speaker 2: right now. Season four just dropped, and it's of note
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  Speaker 2: because with these domestic violence allegations now swirling around Taylor
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  Speaker 2: Frankie Paul. It was really interesting how season four ended
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  Speaker 2: because it ended with Taylor and Dakota as she was
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  Speaker 2: leaving for Los Angeles to go be the next Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what guy would see that and feel good
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  Speaker 1: about it? What guy that she's potentially going to be
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  Speaker 1: dating knew she got to send off from her ex
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  Speaker 1: on the way to me. Essentially what we're showing and
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  Speaker 1: again I guess this is cross promotion. I guess this
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  Speaker 1: is all good, and this is I guess so season
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  Speaker 1: five will involve some stuff from the Bachelorette season that's happening,
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  Speaker 1: and they can just keep going back and forth. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: everybody said, a lot of people said this was brilliant
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  Speaker 1: casting ropes cross promotional.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, to know that Taylor and Dakota spent the
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  Speaker 2: night before she left to become the Bachelorette together. Then
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  Speaker 2: they show them on the phone when she lands on
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  Speaker 2: LA where you hear Dakota tell Taylor save a rose
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  Speaker 2: for me. So look, I get that that creates drama.
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  Speaker 2: I get that gets you so interested in the Bachelorette
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  Speaker 2: from the moment you start watching on Sunday because you think,
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  Speaker 2: my god, she just slept with her ex boyfriend the
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  Speaker 2: night before, and now we know that because we watched
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  Speaker 2: the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and now we get
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  Speaker 2: to see what happens with all these men now trying
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  Speaker 2: to vibe.
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  Speaker 3: For her heart.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is the Bachelorette grew to fame and became
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  Speaker 2: the success it was because they were actually leaning on
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  Speaker 2: the success rate. You think about Trista and Ryan, they
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  Speaker 2: were promoting this show as a true marriage show. We
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  Speaker 2: are trying to help people come together find the loves
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  Speaker 2: of their lives. Look at the babies that have been created,
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  Speaker 2: look at the lasting unions that are still there for
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  Speaker 2: all to see. And they really prided themselves on this
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  Speaker 2: fun show that actually had real and true intent.
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  Speaker 3: This blows that all up.
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  Speaker 1: And that's fine. Why not? Yes, there are some Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: Nation purists who might have an issue with it, but Robes,
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  Speaker 1: they are chasing ratings in a difficult time for television,
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  Speaker 1: and they have come up with they think is a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant plan with a star on reality TV. Yes, we
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  Speaker 1: have stars now and she has been cast in a
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  Speaker 1: second show as a superstar. They have put a lot
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  Speaker 1: now on her. Do they worry about any blowback? I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen it. As far as online. Are people upset
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  Speaker 1: going to be upset with Disney we're putting up?
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  Speaker 2: There will always be people who are upset, but with
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  Speaker 2: anyone's decision. But I think this one, Look, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is what people expect from
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  Speaker 2: reality TV now.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe and they are now.
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  Speaker 2: So desensitized by all of this that yeah, barstools flying,
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  Speaker 2: children being injured, police being involved. It's a sad state
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  Speaker 2: of where we are perhaps and what we call entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: I think we can all get into will she won't we?
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  Speaker 2: Who's she going to pick?
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  Speaker 3: All of that's fun and exciting, But when.
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  Speaker 2: Things take this type of a criminal twist, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if everyone has the stomach for it.
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  Speaker 1: So what are they supposed to do? Do you want
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  Speaker 1: to watch it anymore? Any less? Now that this information
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: is out, you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Know what, it makes me less excited. I still want
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to watch, but I'm less excited about watching it now.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, And look, if it was just that
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: she was with her ex the night before, I could
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: kind of just buy into the Wow, this is reality show,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: like one oh one. They're creating all of this controversy
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: before we even walk into it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: That's fine.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: But when you start bringing in police, and you start
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: bringing in criminal potential criminal charges, and you start looking
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: at the past decisions this reality star has made. And look,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: we met her. She was lovely, We had a great
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: time talking with her. She seemed real, authentic, and she
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: seemed very genuine and wanting to do better and be
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: a better mom. But this, you know, this is tough
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I think probably just that part is it, Babe. It's
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: just in an almost to some degree, feels like an
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: icky modern day media press release. This is how now
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you get attentionent and eyeballs for your show. You create
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a much conflict and controversy. And the timing really one
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: week before the premiere. Some would say, oh, that's horrible
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: timing for every ABC, and there are some others going, hell, yeah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: we're going to get huge eyeballs on Sunday.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Babe.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It came out this week, right, Okay, the charges are,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: or at least the allegations were three weeks ago, so
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you could question the timing of the release of this information.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And if we didn't say, you just said it a
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: moment ago, and I want to make sure we did.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: We we spent some time. Look, we're not clothes, we're
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: not suggesting no, but we spent a full two hours
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: along with her, and the majority of that was on
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a microphone talking, but we got time with her privately,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and we walked away from her liking her, genuinely rooting
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: for her, and didn't think she was trying to fool
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: us in any way, shape or form. She was authentic
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and that was something we liked, and I think there's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: something the audience likes as well. We are rooting for
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: her and like her genuinely, but I don't know. We'll
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: see what happens with this investigation, Rose, but this is
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure it was clear and trying
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to be fair to her and everybody else involved it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: We have to wait and see, wait and see, and
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: we will almost certainly be watching, just like many of
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you will. And with that everyone, thank you for listening
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to us. I made me Robach alongside TJ.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Holmes. We will talk to you real soon