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$2.1T Wall Street GIANT is SILENTLY Buying Bitcoin?! | EP 1417 · Simply Bitcoin

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  While everyone was distracted with the stagnant Bitcoin price,
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  another huge bank has silently acquired nearly half a billion
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  dollars of Bitcoin. But let's not forget everything
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  else Wall Street has done in the past 90 days.
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  First of all, the big kind of big splash was JP Morgan rolling
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  out a MicroStrategy competitor. And then at the same time, now
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  you can use Bitcoin as collateral for a loan.
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  Then Morgan Stanley just recently filed for a spot
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  Bitcoin ETF. We have Charles Schwab
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  announcing Bitcoin trading is going live in 2026.
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  Vanguard finally allows its customers to buy the Bitcoin
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  ETF. Citibank is predicting 143 K
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  Bitcoin in 2026. And Bank of America recommends
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  up to a 4% allocation of Bitcoin to its clients.
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  And now the $2.1 trillion bank Wells Fargo has silent tripled
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  its exposure to Bitcoin. Literally.
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  Again. Literally every huge bank has
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  bent the knee to Bitcoin so far entering 2026 and you're still
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  busy selling your coins because you think 2026 is going to be a
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  bear market. Please make it make sense.
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  Everything I'm seeing it, it's making it very hard for me to
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  see that 2026 isn't going to be a huge year.
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  Obviously it's still barely early in the year, but
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  everything is aligning. All the ducks are in a row now.
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  I'm going to recover some of this.
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  I already gave you guys kind of the big headlines.
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  I will pull up the headlines, but I'm not alone.
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  I do have our boy Brian Demint, head of marketing for what is
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  now Club Orange, formerly Orange Pill app.
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  Phil Brian, always a pleasure to get here with you and chat.
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  Let me RIP through some of these headlines and get to the Wells
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  Fargo news and then we'll kind of chat about, we actually had a
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  very good conversation before of where we think Bitcoin is
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  currently. So again, I pulled up all of
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  these headlines. I already kind of laid it out
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  for you, but just so you don't think I'm making up stuff here
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  these are all coming from official sources.
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  You know Yahoo finance JP Morgan's Bitcoin structured note
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  offers potentially massive returns if Bitcoin surges by
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  2028. This is the micro strategy
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  copycat and then we have pet rock no more JP Morgan now
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  accepts Bitcoin as collateral again, I'm just I'm just telling
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  you guys this is not me making stuff up.
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  We're just recapping what's happened in the last couple of
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  months. Next one, Citigroup raises their
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  base case price target for Bitcoin of 143 K.
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  Again, I think a lot of people don't know what the big banks
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  are in the US, and these are all the big banks.
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  It's Citigroup, JP Morgan, Bank of America, I think it's Bancorp
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  and Wells Fargo, I believe are the top five.
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  And they've all come around on Bitcoin very quickly.
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  Now, of course, the Vanguard saga, we covered this all of
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  last year. Finally towards the end of the
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  year, they will now allow the crypto ETFs to be sold on their
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  platform when they very famously said this would never happen and
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  then the CEO got fired and then literally the guy that launched
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  the BlackRock ETF is the new CEO.
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  So again, tell me, tell me I'm seeing things when all the
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  headlines are saying the opposite.
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  Wall Street wants Bitcoin rather Wall Street wants your Bitcoin,
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  so don't sell it to them. Next one headline, why the $12
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  trillion Charles Schwab crypto entry could threaten US crypto
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  exchanges again, Charles Schwab, one of the biggest traditional
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  financial exchanges for stocks and equities.
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  They're going to launch a Bitcoin or at least launch
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  Bitcoin on their platforms. Next, of course, Bank of America
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  joins JP Morgan City, Morgan Stanley by recommending a
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  Bitcoin portfolio allocation. Again, on the more conservative
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  side, 1% on the more risky edge, 4%, which in my opinion, we got
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  to pump these numbers up. Bank of America, these these are
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  rookie numbers. And then here we finally get to
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  Wells Fargo, which was really high highlighted on Twitter by
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  CZ, of course, famously of Binance.
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  And here's the headline Binance founder CZ encourages crypto
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  holders as Wells Fargo reports Bitcoin ETF holdings and they
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  have corrected in here because if you if I show you the
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  official or not the official, but like kind of the the post
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  that really went viral, It does sound like it was, you know,
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  Wells Fargo purchased 383,000,000 themselves, though
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  the clarification is not Wells Fargo using their own balance
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  sheet to buy Bitcoin exposure. This is really the clients of
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  Wells Fargo wanting Bitcoin exposure, which I think says a
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  lot in and of itself. Now, this isn't the first time
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  that clients at Wells Fargo kind of dip their toes in Bitcoin.
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  The official number that I saw was around August of 2025, they
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  had about 160 million of Bitcoin ETFs held by their client.
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  Now they add to 383,000,000. So, I mean, I, I said triple,
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  I'm like, can I actually get away with saying triple?
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  I, I think they tripled their Bitcoin exposure at Wells Fargo,
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  but someone fact checked me on this one.
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  OK, anyways, just reading this a little bit again, the
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  clarification was it's not Wells Fargo actually buying Bitcoin
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  for themselves. It's the clients wanting
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  Bitcoin. But anyways, last week filings
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  revealed that the clients of Wells Fargo had the mass
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  substantial exposure to Bitcoin through ETS.
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  Yes, it is paper Bitcoin, but I, I think it's bill points in the
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  same direction. First, you kind of get into the
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  paper Bitcoin if you're more trad fi investor, it's safe,
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  it's regulated, it's something you're comfortable with self
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  custody Bitcoin from an institutional level right now.
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  It's like I would say completely out of the question.
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  But in my opinion, that's what you should be doing anyways.
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  This is kind of probably the big, the big take here.
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  This development has elicited reaction from the cryptocurrency
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  community. Further, this disclosure that
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  Wells Fargo's client told 383 million in Bitcoin comes at a
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  time of increasing uncertainty in the wider cryptocurrency
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  market, which is all the debate right now.
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  Nico and I have been debating this on the show, whether we're
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  in a four year cycle, whether we're going into a bear market,
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  whether we're going to go down 70% from all time high.
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  All of this trend, all of these developments are, are telling me
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  the opposite. I, I think we saw the bottom.
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  I think that 30% ish correction is the most we're going to see
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  right now. The price is reacting pretty
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  good. It was a little frothy this
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  morning. We still have to breakthrough
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  some significant levels before we know for a fact that we are
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  not going to go into a bear market.
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  But anyways, CZ pointed out that while many are panic selling,
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  major U.S. banks like Wells Fargo are seeing client inflows
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  into Bitcoin ETFs, which is what I've been saying for a while.
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  Look, the institutions are in control now.
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  Retail is nowhere to be seen. Retail inflows into the ETF,
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  though. I know that is a little
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  confusing. I know you guys yell at me all
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  the time. It's like, we are retail, bro.
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  I'm like, yeah, but I think if you've been a Bitcoiner for a
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  few years, we're in a different category than what I would
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  consider retail. And so we can no longer just
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  watch what happens from, you know, a spot Bitcoin view here.
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  What happens on chain when there's no one there, I don't
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  think is what's driving the Bitcoin price anymore.
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  I think it's the ETFSI think it's the institutions and
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  watching the inflows and of course the leverage market, it's
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  going to tell us what's happening in the Bitcoin price.
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  So hence why in the last couple of weeks I've been really
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  focused on the ETF inflows because that tells you the
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  appetite of the institutions, that tells you how much they
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  want Bitcoin, how much they think Bitcoin is going to be a
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  quote UN quote real asset. And thus This is why I think
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  this is important. Anyways, such accumulation
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  through traditional banking channels is seldom accidental.
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  Again, you know, message suggesting a long term strategy
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  by investors anticipating future Bitcoin growth.
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  Meanwhile, like I said, retail sentiment is like nowhere to be
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  found. I don't think there's any new
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  bitcoiners right now. I think it's all the same people
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  in Bitcoin for a very, very long time.
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  I don't think anything has changed amongst our Bitcoin
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  thesis, but since we haven't had number go up, I think the
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  stablecoin aspect of Bitcoin has really kind of killed the
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  momentum for retail to come in. Plus, remember the shit coin
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  cycles really kind of wrecked a lot of investors and they
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  probably didn't go full Bitcoin maxi.
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  They're just like, I'm out of this, I'm out of this whole
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  industry all together. It's just filled with frauds and
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  scams and I'm not trying to lose my shirt right now.
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  So that's I think the very interesting contrast we are
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  seeing currently. Institutions are setting up
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  Bitcoin products. Institutions want Bitcoin,
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  obviously paper Bitcoin through the ETFs.
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  And at the same time, me and Brian were just joking about
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  it's this is the worst sentiment we've seen in Bitcoin in years.
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  And we're at 93 K right now. It, it really doesn't make a lot
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  of sense when you are like, wait, you know, if you've been
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  in Bitcoin for a long time, maybe you got in at 10K3K20K,
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  you're up on your bags and we're all bored to death and we're all
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  like, can Bitcoin do something? Hence why I'm like, I think this
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  was Wall Street's opportunity to acquire a lot of Bitcoin.
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  And, and interestingly enough, I wasn't going to bring this on
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  today, but Greg Foss absolutely nailed this on Twitter on
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  December 2024. I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to
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  read this real quick before I pass it to you, Brian, because
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  I, I do think it adds value. We haven't heard much from Greg
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  Foss in a long time. And he literally just dropped
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  like the best sauce and then disappeared for the whole year,
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  basically telling us exactly what was going to happen this
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  year and we just completely forgot about it because Greg
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  Foss wasn't around all year. So let me let me find this.
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  I I'm pretty sure I have it right here and it, it explains
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  exactly what happened in 2024 or 2025.
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  And and hence why I've been saying I think what we saw in
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  2025 was Wall Street's kind of play to acquire as much Bitcoin
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  as possible. So hear me here we go.
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  Let me read this real quick and then Brian, we will chat about
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  four year cycle, what your thoughts are on the banks coming
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  in. Here's Greg Foss again, this was
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  December 30th of 2024 and he goes unpopular opinion, 2025
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  could be a down year for Bitcoin because traditional risk assets
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  are lower high yield spreads, blowout equities are down and
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  the new money in the Bitcoin ETS will trade it as a risk on asset
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  that is correlated, which I've been saying and explaining to
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  you guys for the last couple of weeks.
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  I believe Bitcoin to be the ultimate hedge to systemic risk,
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  IEA risk off asset or a long ball asset in a world of short
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  volatility assets. However, there's a lot of big
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  money that needs to be educated on the quote insurance angle of
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  Bitcoin. And in the short run, the risk
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  asset correlation will likely be forced upon us by hedges who
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  need to be short something to quote hedge their equity and
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  credit risk. Ultimately, they may be hedged
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  and wedged. And the short exposure to
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  Bitcoin will need to be reversed because a long exposure to
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  Bitcoin is actually the correct hedge.
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  But again, this education takes time.
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  But when it finally clicks, the gamma squeeze on the quote put
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  on the Fed put will be historic. The Omega candles that we
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  sometimes hear about excelion, those will come.
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  Let's watch and learn. Happy New Year, don't shoot the
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  messenger and beware of too many 100K celebration.
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  I don't know, absolutely called this.
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  Oh, wait, I didn't pull it up. Sorry.
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  Alright guys, I'll, I'll pull this up while I let let Brian
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  take on this. But look, I think Greg Foss
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  absolutely nailed it, which makes my thesis of, you know,
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  2025 the last year. I think this is Wall Street
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  trying to get a good position in Bitcoin and I think 2026 is
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  going to be extremely bullish here.
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  So I ranted enough, Brian, what? What's your thoughts on this?
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  Let's start with first and foremost, 'cause we did talk
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  about this before the show, the Wall Street interest into
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  Bitcoin the last few months is absolutely incredible.
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  It I think it's a totally paradigm shifting moment for
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  Bitcoin. And yet a lot of Bitcoiners
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  still have this old view of what Bitcoin has done in the past and
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  trying to use that to Telegraph where it's gonna go in the
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  future. Yeah, First off, they screwed up
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  when they let Opti and I be on the show together, a couple bull
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  tards just unchecked by anything of of regularity.
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  So you're going to get just pure optimism from from this crew
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  today. But but I don't think it's
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  unfounded. I mean, I, I really do think
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  exactly what you said. We are in a paradigm shift and
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  this is what we go through it. It's funny, we can read history
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  books, we can see these things happening, but for whatever
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  reason, when they happen to us, we think that it's different.
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  We think that this isn't what they felt when you know when,
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  when, when some guy created gunpowder in his lab and then
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  later the the king adopts gunpowder for his army, right?
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  Like that seemed like a corrupting of that force.
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  And and that's just part of technological adoption.
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  When when the cypherpunks of the Internet whenthefirst.gov
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  website was launched, the cypherpunks didn't say the
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  Internet is unusable becausethereare.gov websites.
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  Just because the mainstream adopted or just because the man
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  adopted it, that didn't make the Internet unusable, right?
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  It is a stamp of approval that this is a new generation.
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  As soon as the.gov websites came around, it didn't signal to the
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  cypherpunks that the Internet was here to stay.
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  The cypherpunks or the, the early Internet adopters, they
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  always knew that the Internet was a tool that everybody could
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  use. butthe.gov website or the Wells Fargo website or the big
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  institution website put a stamp on the Internet to everybody
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  else. That's a 3rd or 4th order
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  adopter that that is a late Comer to technology.
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  It is a stamp of validity to those people.
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  And so this is the step, this is late stage adoption of
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  something. I'm not saying it's the latest
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  stage because there's still plenty to go, but this is one of
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  the later stages. You have the the the lunatic
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  fringe at the beginning, you have the early adopters.
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  We are in the man stamp of approval stage of it.
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  And so yes, when a when an entity like Wells Fargo comes to
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  the game and they're buying hundreds of millions of dollars,
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  not them, but they're their clients.
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  That is a stage of adoption that yes can make some people feel
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  uncomfortable, but it is perfectly natural and it is the
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  order that it was going to like every Bitcoiner that came in and
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  yours and my generation of Bitcoin Opte, we knew that this
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  was going to happen. We were predicting this.
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  We said, we actually, we got made fun of by our friends that
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  someday Wells Fargo would be buying it for their clients.
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  Did we not think that this was going to be part of the thing?
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  No, that that's just the natural order of things.
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  And here's the good news though, is that when these institutions
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  are saying just put 1% or just put 1 1/2% allocation into
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  Bitcoin, they're doing that specifically.
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  It's not because they actually want investors to only put in
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  1%. They know what happens when a
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  giant institution says let's invest 1% of your portfolio.
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  They know that human intuition is, well, if everybody else is
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  investing 1%, I need to put 5%, I need to put 10%.
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  They know they're investors. They're just by a mainstream
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  institution recommending that they will get higher investment
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  than what they're suggesting suggesting, but they get to
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  maintain immunity from the downside effects.
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  If somebody did put 10% in and then the price drop, they get to
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  say, well, we just said hedge with 1% knowing that they will
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  stimulate higher than 1% with their recommendation.
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  Again, stamps of approval is the phase that we're in right now.
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  This is good, this is healthy. You might not like every element
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  of it, but guess what? We're on the path to victory.
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  Absolutely incredible. Brian, I great, great breakdown
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  of this. Now I do, I do want to talk
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  about the four year cycle because fundamentally to me,
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  like what you just said and then all the news I recapped of all
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  the banks coming into Bitcoin basically towards the end of
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  2025, in the beginning of 2026. This is fundamentally in my
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  opinion, just just showing us that Bitcoin has matured.
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  It is a macro asset. Now, yes, as Greg Foss said, it
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  might be, you know, not the macro asset perspective as
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  Bitcoiners love or want to see, but it is very clearly being
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  involved in the macro asset conversation, which in my
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  opinion, from what I'm seeing from the Trump administration,
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  from what I'm seeing for the 2026 kind of macro factors and
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  variables right now, it's all saying one thing to me.
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  They're going to run the economy so hot, they're going to turn on
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  the money printer. No OverDrive.
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  I think the amount of liquidity is going to expand to numbers we
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  probably can't even fathom right now.
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  And a lot of that is going to drive Bitcoin to go higher.
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  Yes, Bitcoin was delayed in 2025, but this, in my opinion,
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  is just further kind of data points that the full year cycle
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  is going to break in 2020. I think it broke in 2025, but
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  you know, there's still people clinging to the full year cycle
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  because it it hit all time high 18 months after, even though
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  every other factor and variable for the four year cycle has been
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  broken. So I'm, I'm on 2026 is going to
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  be a bullish year. I think 4 year cycle is done.
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  I I think it's over and it's being driven by the
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  institutions. Now.
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  Everyone's heard my take here. I only said that so Brian kind
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  of gets the context of what my view the four year cycle is.
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  But Brian, I know at the very least that you are not on the
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  four year cycle train. So let the people know you're
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  thinking on the four year cycle. No, I, I, I agree with what you
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  said. I think that that we saw enough
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  if and I'm not a big chart guy or whatever, but like we saw
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  enough points on the charts that that would mean that the four
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  year cycle is at the very least dysregulated, right.
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  It is not following its natural order of the four year cycle.
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  I think we benefit from the good elements of the four year cycle.
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  And there was and I'll I'll tell you what, I get calls and I was
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  telling you this off air. I get calls from from investors,
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  hedge fund investors, like heads of hedge funds that they will
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  see the Bitcoin price drop and then they will ask, they will
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  call to ask is this part of the four year cycle like this is or
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  text messages come in. It's you got to talk these guys
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  off a ledge. So these are guys that are
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  managing millions and millions of dollars in Bitcoin holdings
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  and they are not, they're not moving necessarily according to
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  the four year cycle, but they're asking the question is should I
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  get out like is this is this that?
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  Is this that segment of the cycle?
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  So there's people I definitely know who are paying attention to
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  it. But what seems to happen is
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  there's enough sound Bitcoin judgement or they're going to
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  Bitcoiners that that's one of the refreshing things to me is
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  that just in my small experiences, there are guys that
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  have these giant holdings in Bitcoin that are asking guys
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  like me, like Opti, like, like, like probably some of you guys
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  in the audience, if, what stage are we in right now?
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  And when we can talk those guys off a ledge.
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  And, and every time I've had a conversation with those guys,
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  they don't sell. They don't change their, their,
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  their customers positions or anything like that.
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  They don't adjust. They are going to.
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  Not see the downside of the four year cycle, but there will be,
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  there will be the halving. The halving is something that
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  does happen and the positive effects from that I think will
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  still occur. When there's a scarcity crunch,
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  I think the natural order is that that is going to increase
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  demand because of a FOMO effect. I don't think that we have the
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  the latent effect that because the, the, the reason why I don't
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  think that the downside comes as much is because it is after it
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  is, it is it is removed from the halving where the excitement
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  around the halving tends to come a little bit before and a little
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  bit after. But the news of the halving is
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  what's going to stimulate the markets I think in a, in a
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  positive way. So I would say that four year
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  cycle is dysregulated, not that halvings don't affect price.
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  I think we just get the positive element from it and the good.
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  The good thing here is that it has become a macro asset in the
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  sense that for for good or bad, right.
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  We we now have the wells fargos of the world buying and holding
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  and the micro strategies and those types of things.
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  Whether you like that or not, there are there are very diamond
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  handed holders in this market. Now on the flip side of it,
• 21:15
  there was a really interesting thing that happened in 20 the
• 21:19
  end of 24 and 25 was this $100,000 level.
• 21:23
  And I know any OG that I talked to that was a significant and OG
• 21:27
  Bitcoiner, any OJ Bitcoin, it was in early 100K was a very
• 21:33
  significant number. That was the number early on in
• 21:36
  Bitcoin when Bitcoin was $100, when Bitcoin was $1000, when
• 21:40
  Bitcoin was $20. They told themselves when it
• 21:44
  gets to 100, I will offload 5%, I will offload 6%.
• 21:48
  That will be my, I'm not getting out of Bitcoin.
• 21:51
  But that was just for like, again, like it or not, that was
• 21:54
  the number in these OG whales head where they could start to
• 21:59
  enjoy some of the fruits of their holding.
• 22:01
  And that happened. And I don't think we see that
• 22:04
  again, I don't think we see that occur at 200,000.
• 22:07
  I don't think we see that occur at $250,000 Bitcoin.
• 22:10
  There was something psychological about hitting 6
• 22:13
  digits of 100,000. And again, that was a lot of OG
• 22:16
  Bitcoiners. That was their their visionary,
• 22:19
  their visionary prophecy of the future was that Bitcoin would
• 22:22
  hit 100,000, which was crazy at the time they made those
• 22:25
  predictions. But when it came to fruition,
• 22:27
  they enjoyed the fruits of their labor.
• 22:29
  They they enjoy the fruit, the fruits of their discipline.
• 22:31
  So I don't think we see that again.
• 22:33
  I think that we've passed that moment.
• 22:35
  And again, guys, the Bitcoin Ogs had a lot of Bitcoin and a lot
• 22:40
  of Bitcoin was unloaded by them. And, and you've seen the, the,
• 22:44
  the amount of wallets that have over 100 Bitcoin in them now is
• 22:47
  going up. So that Bitcoin was absorbed by
• 22:50
  some of these diamond handed holders, these big institutions.
• 22:53
  And so again, not all of that sunshine and roses, but the
• 22:57
  reality is that some of of the forces that suppressed Bitcoin
• 23:00
  this year that we didn't like, I don't think those are coming
• 23:03
  back around. Let's go.
• 23:05
  I'm with that though, to be clear here, Brian, no hedge fund
• 23:10
  managers asking me my opinion on Bitcoin.
• 23:12
  They know I have a 42 IQ. So you know, I don't, don't,
• 23:16
  don't put me in on the right side of the bell curve with you.
• 23:18
  OK, that that's not happening. But I do want to say one quick
• 23:22
  thing about what you said because it, it really reminded
• 23:26
  me of God Saul's book mind virus.
• 23:30
  And it's starting to, at least in my opinion, be viewed as like
• 23:35
  the four year cycle meme is like this mind virus.
• 23:38
  And in the early years of Bitcoin, it was like a positive
• 23:41
  mind virus. It's like you spread the meme.
• 23:44
  Everyone knows four year cycle bitcoins going to go up.
• 23:46
  All you got to do is hold for, you know, 18 months if it, if
• 23:49
  it's dropping, like just make sure you're able to survive with
• 23:52
  their holdings and then you know, you know it's going to
• 23:55
  pump and you'll be OK. Now it seems like it's a
• 23:58
  negative mind virus and I, and I don't think that's God Saul's
• 24:01
  kind of framing here. I, I, I think it's just like
• 24:04
  this is what a mind virus is. But I, I've been seeing a lot of
• 24:08
  headlines and a lot of people saying something very similar
• 24:11
  that the reason we're seeing Bitcoin kind of move how it's
• 24:15
  been moving the last couple of months is because everyone
• 24:17
  believes in the four year cycle and hence why we saw a drop.
• 24:20
  Hence why we're seeing a lot of people hedge their positions.
• 24:23
  Everyone's wondering, are we going into a bear market?
• 24:26
  So it does seem like we have gotten to a point where the four
• 24:29
  year cycle does have like this negative feedback loop.
• 24:32
  And just because we I believe it's like a self fulfilling
• 24:35
  prophecy. It's like, oh, it's going to go
• 24:36
  down. I'm going to sell.
• 24:37
  And therefore we see more selling, though I'm going to be
• 24:42
  very excited this year. If it just completely, you know,
• 24:45
  blindsides everyone and we start pumping because I I'm going to
• 24:49
  be able to take my victory lap here.
• 24:50
  I I get to point my finger at Nikko and be like, I told you so
• 24:53
  you're wrong. You know who's the smart one now
• 24:56
  I I claim to be an idiot and yet I somehow figured this out.
• 25:00
  So I'm I'm I'm warming up to it, Brian.
• 25:02
  But it does seem like the four year cycle is becoming a self
• 25:06
  fulfilling prophecy in in like the negative aspects of that.
• 25:09
  And while you were talking it just like that, the God saw mind
• 25:13
  virus thing kind of just clicked in my head.
• 25:15
  I'm like, oh, that's exactly what's going on.
• 25:17
  It's just 'cause we believe that it's going to go down.
• 25:20
  That's why the price is kind of doing what it's doing.
• 25:23
  And until everyone sees to the opposite, everyone's like 04
• 25:27
  year cycle, that's what's happening.
• 25:28
  And the fact we have like hedge fund managers talking to you
• 25:31
  about it, you're like, ah dude, we are shooting ourselves in the
• 25:34
  foot right now. We are actually hurting our
• 25:36
  narrative because we all believe in the four year cycle so much.
• 25:40
  Yeah, I would. I would almost call it the it's
• 25:43
  like the Bitcoin four year cycle placebo effect.
• 25:45
  Yeah, it's, it's not real, but we believe it is or some people
• 25:49
  believe it is. And so it it will affect and,
• 25:51
  and this is like one of the most, if you read any research
• 25:55
  paper about about how powerful the placebo effect is, the most,
• 26:01
  the most reliable effect in all of medicine is the placebo
• 26:04
  effect. And and it's just, you know that
• 26:06
  a certain percentage of people in a control group in a study
• 26:09
  will say that they got improvement for a symptoms of
• 26:12
  something if they take a placebo, not knowing it's a
• 26:15
  placebo. So placebos are very, very
• 26:17
  powerful. It takes time, takes
• 26:19
  generations, and we have 4 year generations that happen in
• 26:22
  Bitcoin for people to be removed from it.
• 26:24
  So I think each four years less and less people will be
• 26:27
  convinced of the power of the four year placebo.
• 26:31
  I'm with that, yes, we're not calling it the four year cycle
• 26:35
  anymore. We're calling it the four year
• 26:36
  placebo. You heard it here first guys,
• 26:39
  Brian just coined it. So the chat actually when Nico
• 26:43
  comes on talking about the four year cycle, I I want you guys to
• 26:45
  spam the four year placebo effect in full effect with Nico.
• 26:51
  OK, all right guys. So for the rest of the show I'm
• 26:54
  I'm going to play Jack Muller's clip from his mailbag or Monday
• 26:57
  Monday mailbag. I forget, Maybe it's mailbag
• 26:59
  Monday live stream. He in a, in a more eloquent way
• 27:04
  than I can, is saying the exact same thing I've been saying.
• 27:07
  I've been screaming it on the show for the last couple of
• 27:10
  weeks. Why I think this year's going to
• 27:12
  be bullish. I'll get more Brian's response
• 27:15
  to this because you've heard me say it in a less eloquent way.
• 27:18
  So, you know, I, I think he did a great job.
• 27:20
  And then in the news, guys, I covered the Jay Powell versus
• 27:24
  Trump kind of latest event in new saga.
• 27:28
  We got an even more interesting saga wrinkle coming out
• 27:32
  yesterday or maybe, yeah, yesterday night, where all the
• 27:36
  central bankers now are in they're all aligning with Jay
• 27:40
  Powell. It it's honestly, on the one
• 27:43
  hand, really hilarious and also very sad.
• 27:45
  And I think the game is being exposed here like very clearly
• 27:49
  on what's going on. So we'll chat about that.
• 27:51
  And then of course with Brian, we're going to be chatting
• 27:53
  about, you know, formerly known as Orange Palab, now Club Orange
• 27:58
  and all the things they're doing, all the cool stuff
• 28:00
  they're doing. So that's the layout for today's
• 28:02
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  the chat real quick. Hold on.
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  I I know I'm I I I need, I have a time limit today, but yo chat,
• 30:31
  I I am not this is this is all proof of work.
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  OK, I have not taken the shortcut to to working out.
• 30:38
  I've been in the gym all right, I, I don't even know why I can
• 30:41
  even say the S word here, but not true fake news.
• 30:44
  I'm crashing out. I really wish I took the
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  shortcut. I I don't like the gym at all,
• 30:49
  but shouts out to Sal anyways. Anyways, yeah, sorry, I'm, I'm
• 30:53
  crashing out right now, Brian, I'm crashing out.
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  All right, anyways, pivot here. Current Bitcoin price is
• 30:59
  $93,390.00. The discount from all time high
• 31:03
  is 26%. The market cap, hey, we're
• 31:05
  inching back towards 2 trillion, 1.87 trillion and the block high
• 31:09
  TikTok next block 932,000 and 151 a repeat 932151.
• 31:16
  OK, so First off, of course, Shazza, the Jack Maulers, I
• 31:21
  don't know something about people from Chicago.
• 31:23
  They're just goaded, you know, like he is.
• 31:27
  He's just one of the best. I I love Jack Muellers, but he
• 31:32
  did his mailbag Monday or Monday mailbag show.
• 31:34
  I, I always mix that up and he literally explained exactly what
• 31:39
  I've been saying in a much more eloquent way of why we think
• 31:43
  2026 is going to be extremely bullish.
• 31:45
  I'm not going to respond to it 'cause you've heard me rant
• 31:48
  about it. So I'm going to kind of tee up
• 31:50
  Brian here. Let's play the clip for you
• 31:51
  guys. I think this perfectly explained
• 31:54
  what's going on currently and why it's extremely hard not to
• 31:58
  be bullish right now. Now that you've got that out of
• 32:02
  the way, the point is the president of the United States
• 32:05
  views himself as a historical figure.
• 32:08
  The President of the United States has shown that he is
• 32:12
  willing to go to extreme levels to prove that the President of
• 32:16
  the United States believes he will be impeached if he loses
• 32:22
  midterms. Midterms are at the end of this
• 32:26
  year. We've talked on and on and on
• 32:29
  and on. Bitcoin is the best expression
• 32:31
  of currency debasement. It's the best expression of
• 32:36
  money printing. Bitcoin is very simply priced on
• 32:40
  future expectations of Fiat supply.
• 32:43
  Say, why is the Bitcoin price up?
• 32:45
  Why is the Bitcoin price down? Bitcoin moves as they create
• 32:49
  more or delete more dollars, period.
• 32:53
  It's some combination of technology plus Fiat liquidity.
• 32:57
  People will say, is it a tech stock?
• 32:59
  People will say, is it trading like gold as an alternative
• 33:03
  neutral system? And the answer's both OK.
• 33:09
  And so this is a huge year. And we need to set the tone by
• 33:12
  understanding we are in midterm year.
• 33:18
  The Democrats have an 80% chance to win, according to open
• 33:21
  markets. Trump feels the pressure.
• 33:24
  The administration was not able to make a lot of progress in
• 33:27
  2025. And it depends on what side you
• 33:29
  said. If you're a Republican, you say,
• 33:31
  well, the Fed is acting as political Democrats.
• 33:35
  The, the, the tariff stuff is being fought over in court.
• 33:40
  Everyone's getting in his way. He's trying.
• 33:42
  He's making good progress. The market hasn't appreciated
• 33:45
  it. And against all the, you know,
• 33:47
  headwinds in his face, he's doing his best.
• 33:49
  If you're a Democrat, you're saying this egomaniacal son of a
• 33:52
  gun over promises under delivers.
• 33:56
  Remember when he said that Elon Musk was going to, you know, run
• 33:59
  our budget like a startup and fix everything?
• 34:01
  What a moron. The point is, it doesn't matter.
• 34:06
  The Dems are going to win the midterms.
• 34:08
  If nothing changes, he's going to get aggressive.
• 34:10
  What would that aggression look like?
• 34:13
  Well, what a Sunday it was where the sitting chair of the Federal
• 34:19
  Reserve posted a hostage video effectively to Twitter.
• 34:29
  I mean, you have got to be kidding me.
• 34:34
  This is the best timeline to ever be having a pulse.
• 34:40
  I mean, what are the odds that we are all alive right now?
• 34:47
  I gotta you gotta love Jack Mullers that I couldn't have
• 34:51
  said. I literally can't say it better
• 34:53
  than him so I'm not going to respond to this.
• 34:55
  You guys heard me talk about something very similar and I, I,
• 34:59
  I do want to do add 1 little thing in there though.
• 35:03
  If you heard his take on the Republican stance on what's
• 35:06
  going on with the Fed right now, it sounds like someone that's on
• 35:09
  the show constantly and his name is not Opti.
• 35:12
  So look, I'm just going to say that, OK?
• 35:14
  But Brian, we were chatting about this.
• 35:16
  I think you kind of said something very similar in the
• 35:18
  beginning, but I think this is probably the most succinct kind
• 35:23
  of way to explain what is going on.
• 35:26
  And like it's, it's literally the two-minute, 2 minute
• 35:29
  elevator pitch. Like this is what's happening.
• 35:31
  You can't convince me otherwise. This is why I'm extremely
• 35:34
  bullish on this year. It, it's just clear as day to me
• 35:37
  that this, what Jack Muller's just said is exactly what's
• 35:40
  happening. I've been saying this in various
• 35:43
  ways on the show. I, I can't, I can't see, like, I
• 35:46
  can't hear him and be like, oh, that's not what's happening.
• 35:49
  Like to me, this is the clearest signal about where we currently
• 35:52
  are in the Bitcoin movie and in the macro markets, in my
• 35:56
  opinion. So in my humble opinion here,
• 35:58
  but Brian, what, what's your thoughts here?
• 36:00
  You're not on the show constantly.
• 36:02
  So I want to hear your thoughts on what Jack just said.
• 36:05
  I mean, this for sure is going to be a scene in the big short
• 36:09
  too. So just mark this moment the
• 36:11
  the, the Jerome Powell hostage video when they make a movie
• 36:15
  about this, this era and it it's going to happen, that will be a
• 36:19
  moment in it. I'm interested to see who plays
• 36:21
  Trump. I'm interested to see who plays
• 36:23
  Powell. But this like, like, like
• 36:25
  Mueller said, this is the best moment to be alive and have a
• 36:30
  pulse. We are seeing so much chaos.
• 36:33
  But the beautiful part is we're already on the life.
• 36:36
  If you're in Bitcoin, you're already on the lifeboat.
• 36:38
  So you get to sit back and watch the house burn.
• 36:40
  Now, that's a really nihilistic thought in many ways, but that's
• 36:43
  why you guys are on air every day.
• 36:45
  That's why we're at Club Orange. We're building a social network
• 36:49
  of people so that people can on unload onto the lifeboat.
• 36:53
  Now, that's why it's really important.
• 36:55
  But I will say this and I'm keep it short and succinct, Money
• 36:59
  printing will be proportionate to the degree at which Trump is
• 37:04
  coming after Powell. Say that again, money printing
• 37:08
  is going to be proportionate to the degree at which Trump is
• 37:11
  coming after Powell. There's two points there.
• 37:14
  It is going to be unprecedented. It is going to be vicious and
• 37:18
  crowd pleasing. And that's all I'll say on that.
• 37:21
  Love it. I absolutely love that.
• 37:23
  I I don't think I've heard that that that's, that's a little 22
• 37:28
  gig of brain for me. I, I can't even wrap my head
• 37:30
  around your statement, but I'm I'm going to have to digest on
• 37:32
  that one, Brian. But I agree, I definitely agree
• 37:35
  with the unprecedented aspect of this.
• 37:38
  It's it's again, look, whether you like Trump or not, like he's
• 37:42
  no dummy. Well, you could argue he is a
• 37:45
  dummy, but he's got smart people around him.
• 37:48
  What he is really good at is kind of like accumulating the
• 37:56
  zeitgeist, the the cultural conversation around where he is.
• 38:01
  And I think he understands that Some of the stuff he did towards
• 38:04
  the end of the year, he's not very popular as a Republican.
• 38:08
  How do they kind of gain favor again?
• 38:10
  Is they just like start printing money?
• 38:12
  They just run the economy hot again.
• 38:14
  Republicans historically run on a good economy like they, they
• 38:18
  run on economics. And the only way to kind of gain
• 38:22
  favor is, you know, saying some mean tweets, maybe doing some
• 38:27
  kind of badass military procedures and then making sure
• 38:30
  the economy is just like making sure you feel like you are doing
• 38:35
  well. The only real move they have is
• 38:38
  turning on the money printer. That's all they can really do.
• 38:41
  Also, of course, this whole battle on interest rates, but
• 38:45
  they have to run the economy high.
• 38:46
  Like he basically needs to give you helicopter money for them to
• 38:49
  win the midterms again, or else like he's in a lot, a lot of
• 38:54
  trouble. So that's kind of my thesis, my
• 38:56
  base view of where we're going. It's like, oh, they're going to
• 38:59
  literally print trillions of dollars, like way faster than
• 39:03
  they printed in the past. And I believe last year and the
• 39:05
  year before it was like a trillion dollars was spent or or
• 39:08
  rather created every 100 days. I wouldn't be surprised if we're
• 39:12
  seeing like trillions of dollars like every two months, you know,
• 39:15
  like every 50 days. I, I'm, I'm convinced it's going
• 39:18
  to be that unprecedented, like like Brian was saying.
• 39:21
  Well, this is the this is the life cycle of Fiat.
• 39:24
  We act as though it is it is the the exact specific circumstances
• 39:30
  of right now that this is only going to happen because of Trump
• 39:33
  or this is only going to happen because of Powell.
• 39:35
  This was the preordained future of Fiat.
• 39:40
  This was going to happen. And so Bitcoiners gold bugs have
• 39:44
  been betting on this and have been understanding that this
• 39:46
  would come at some time now. It's like trying to predict when
• 39:50
  Christ is going to come back, right?
• 39:51
  Like the Bible says that don't try to figure out when Jesus is
• 39:54
  going to come back because that's what the Colts do.
• 39:55
  And like they like they're always wrong, right?
• 39:58
  They're like September 4th, Jesus coming back.
• 40:00
  It's the same thing. Like when is Fiat going to fail?
• 40:03
  Like when is when is a bag of, you know, a trash bag full of
• 40:06
  $100 bills not going to buy you anything?
• 40:08
  Well, I don't know the date, but guess what?
• 40:11
  Like this is. The this is the life cycle.
• 40:15
  This is inevitable. And what I meant to is not just
• 40:18
  that, you know, like I said, it was going to be unprecedented
• 40:20
  that, that, that what Trump's going to do is going to be
• 40:23
  vicious and crowd pleasing. I don't, I don't mean that it's
• 40:26
  like good by being crowd pleasing.
• 40:28
  It's, it's as Alfie mentioned, it's bread and circus, right?
• 40:32
  Trump bread and circus. Biden's bread and circus was
• 40:35
  getting celebrities to endorse certain things or getting, you
• 40:39
  know, athletes to endorse certain things that like that
• 40:42
  was the bread and circus of the Democrats.
• 40:43
  The bread and circus of conservatism or, or, or of MAGA
• 40:48
  is, is going, like you said, military strikes.
• 40:52
  It's doing war with the central bank.
• 40:54
  It's, it's, it's inverting the food pyramid, right?
• 40:57
  I think some of those things are good.
• 40:59
  But that is the thing that is going to be crowd pleasing to,
• 41:02
  to conservatives, right? That that is the bread and
• 41:04
  circus of the conservatives. And so whether that those are
• 41:08
  good things, those are big, bold and, and crowd pleasing things.
• 41:12
  Now, when it comes to the money printer, Trump knows that
• 41:17
  everybody will be happy about it, right?
• 41:19
  Everybody's craving loose cash. Poor people want loose cash.
• 41:25
  Bitcoin Maxis are loose cash. We know that it's bad for
• 41:31
  dollars, but we, we, we have been saying that dollars aren't
• 41:34
  even the thing that we want to help survive anyways.
• 41:36
  Gold bugs, silver bugs all across the board.
• 41:39
  If you own stock, you know that loose cash is going to inflate
• 41:44
  your bags, that it'll be crowd pleasing, not because it's good.
• 41:48
  It'll be crowd pleasing in the way that heroin is crowd
• 41:51
  pleasing to a heroin addict. And and, and so we just need to
• 41:54
  understand that's the way the world works, so proceed
• 41:58
  accordingly. Yeah, I love, I love the
• 42:01
  examples, Brian, that was great. That was great.
• 42:02
  All right, I want to keep it moving guys, because I I do have
• 42:05
  a a hard stop today. So Brian, heads up, I think I'm
• 42:09
  just going to RIP through this next segment so we can talk
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  about Club Orange and I'll give you some, you know, a lot of
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• 44:54
  this. So I did cover kind of the
• 44:56
  initial wrinkle of this story. Again, if you've been on the
• 44:59
  show, we've been covering this for basically all of last year,
• 45:03
  that there is a war right now between the US Treasury and the
• 45:08
  Federal Reserve. And I think, I think the mask is
• 45:11
  coming off. Here's the first headline from
• 45:14
  Bloomberg. Again, if you aren't familiar,
• 45:17
  as Jack Muller said in the beginning of the show, if you
• 45:19
  were here yesterday, we were talking about the Jay Powell
• 45:21
  clip. You know, Jay Powell went on
• 45:23
  Twitter Sunday night. It seemed like he wanted to take
• 45:25
  the markets. He did this as Jack Muller was
• 45:28
  saying, this hostage video about this, quote, indictment.
• 45:32
  And that's the that's the keyword here, this indictment
• 45:34
  from the DOJ against Jerome Powell for the amount of money
• 45:38
  they spend to build the new Federal Reserve building.
• 45:41
  Now, here's where it does get a little interesting.
• 45:44
  So this is from Bloomberg and the headline is global central
• 45:47
  bankers in, quote, full solidarity with Feds Powell.
• 45:52
  Global central bankers have thrown their support behind
• 45:54
  Chairman Jerome Powell after the Trump administration increased
• 45:56
  pressure on the Federal Reserve. Central banks, including the
• 45:59
  European Central Bank and the Bank of England said they,
• 46:02
  quote, stand in full solidarity with the Fed and Powell,
• 46:06
  emphasizing the importance of central bank independent.
• 46:09
  The Fed was served grand jury subpoenas from the Justice
• 46:12
  Department threatening a criminal indictment.
• 46:15
  Again, that's the keyword here. Criminal indictment, which
• 46:18
  Powell said is related to his June congressional testimony on
• 46:21
  renovation to the Fed's headquarter.
• 46:23
  Now here I will pull up the EC BS kind of response or tweet.
• 46:28
  The ECB and other European and international central bankers
• 46:31
  stand in full solidarity with the Federal Reserve System and
• 46:34
  it's chair Jerome H Powell. The independence of central bank
• 46:38
  is in the interest of the people we serve.
• 46:42
  You just you got to love to see it.
• 46:44
  Look, say what you want about central bankers, at least they
• 46:47
  stand with each other. You know, like you, you got to
• 46:49
  give it that they, they view themselves as a tribe.
• 46:53
  You know, all, a lot of the stuff we've heard about the
• 46:57
  Federal Reserve and the creation of Jekyll Island or the creature
• 47:00
  from Jekyll Island, the creation of central banks, all of the,
• 47:03
  quote, conspiracy theories that have become true.
• 47:06
  Dude, they're standing with each other.
• 47:08
  You got to love it. You got to love it.
• 47:10
  Anyways, again, full solidarity. You know, the independence of
• 47:14
  central banks, this whole myth. It is therefore critical to
• 47:17
  preserve the independence, yadda, yadda, yadda.
• 47:20
  Respected colleague Jerome Powell.
• 47:21
  Yeah, yeah, we've heard it before.
• 47:24
  But it is very interesting that they did come out.
• 47:27
  Especially remember, these are the ECB.
• 47:31
  And if you've been following the, the Tom Luongo theme, where
• 47:35
  a lot of the stuff, this is more of what Tom Luongo says, that a
• 47:38
  lot of the stuff the Trump administration has been doing is
• 47:41
  to essentially defund the City of London, AKA the Davos crowd,
• 47:45
  which you could say the ECB is very much a part of.
• 47:49
  Hence why the ECB is standing with the Federal Reserve in this
• 47:53
  U.S. Treasury versus the Fed battle
• 47:54
  that we've been seeing. So, you know, all the conspiracy
• 47:57
  theories are, are all floating up in my head.
• 48:00
  But this is where it does get pretty interesting.
• 48:03
  We got US attorney, Attorney Piro, who did a tweet yesterday,
• 48:08
  and they have a slightly different take on this.
• 48:11
  They go the United States Attorney's office contacted the
• 48:14
  Federal Reserve on multiple occasions to discuss cost
• 48:18
  overruns and the chairman's congressional testimony but were
• 48:21
  ignored, necessitating the use of legal process, which is not a
• 48:26
  threat. The word, quote, indictment has
• 48:29
  come out of Mr. Powell's mouth, no one else's.
• 48:32
  None of this would have happened if they had just responded,
• 48:34
  bonded to our outreach. This office makes decisions
• 48:37
  based on the merits, nothing more and nothing less.
• 48:40
  We agree with the chairman of the Federal Reserve that no one
• 48:44
  is above the law and that is why we expected full cooperation.
• 48:48
  Remember, I was making a point about this yesterday that the
• 48:51
  fact we saw Jerome Powell put this on social media trying to
• 48:56
  get the American people behind him and really lean into a lot
• 49:00
  of the, the democratic view of this, you know, tyrannical
• 49:04
  president and the treasury. It really made me wonder.
• 49:07
  I'm like, what is the PR move here?
• 49:09
  Like why is he speaking to the American public like I am?
• 49:13
  I am your, your servant here when we all know that the Fed is
• 49:17
  not federal and it doesn't have our best interests in mind.
• 49:21
  No matter what they say, no matter what they talk about
• 49:23
  inflation and employment, They they work for the bankers.
• 49:27
  I, I said all this yesterday. Now going further shouts out to
• 49:31
  Simon Dixon. Here's his response.
• 49:34
  He says, you know, here's the ECB tweet and he goes, you're
• 49:36
  all shareholders in the Bank of International Settlement.
• 49:39
  Trump is likely handing USD the US dollar monetary policy over
• 49:44
  to BlackRock, which goes into a recent rumor that apparently
• 49:48
  Trump is interviewing. I, I believe his name is Rick
• 49:51
  Reeder, Rick Ryder of BlackRock. The CIOI believe it is as the
• 49:56
  potential new Federal Reserve chair.
• 49:59
  So all the rumors about maybe some bitcoiners.
• 50:02
  Now it looks like not only is BlackRock in control of the
• 50:05
  World Economic Forum with Larry Fink, but we might be seeing
• 50:09
  BlackRock in control of the Fed here with this new kind of rumor
• 50:14
  going around that he's being interviewed.
• 50:16
  I believe it's today. Anyways, the power is shifting
• 50:18
  within the financial industrial complex.
• 50:20
  It's a ruthless game at the top. But BlackRock again got the job
• 50:23
  at the World Economic Forum, and they might be getting the job at
• 50:26
  the Federal Reserve. Here is Colby Smith, who works
• 50:32
  at the New New York Times, and she goes again.
• 50:35
  Former Fed chairs and Treasury secretaries put out a statement
• 50:38
  on Monday defending Powell after the DOJ opened up a criminal
• 50:42
  investigation of the chair, likening the move to what
• 50:45
  happened in emerging markets. And then this is when it starts
• 50:49
  getting kind of interesting 'cause as Pierre Rochard said,
• 50:53
  fiaters are rallying across party lines.
• 50:57
  The Fiat cause unites them into one coalition.
• 51:00
  And he's, quote, tweeting this professor of Harvard.
• 51:03
  And he goes every former living Fed chair, Bernanke, Greenspan,
• 51:06
  Yellen, bipartisan former Treasury secretaries, Geithner,
• 51:10
  Paulson, others, bipartisan former CAE chairs, Hubbard,
• 51:14
  manking, Romer and me. This is not a difficult or
• 51:18
  controversial issue. The attack on Powell is
• 51:21
  dangerous. You just got to love the fiatter
• 51:24
  is just all in alignment here. So if you have any doubts of
• 51:28
  what this is and what's going on, I think at this point it's
• 51:32
  it's like, OK, this is just some Fiat world stuff.
• 51:36
  I think Jerome Powell is starting to trying to push back.
• 51:40
  He is getting a lot of pressure and he is going to be out.
• 51:44
  And I know that Jerome Powell really has this idea of legacy
• 51:48
  in mind. And I think he's finally
• 51:50
  fighting to preserve that legacy.
• 51:52
  And I don't think he has much legacy to preserve.
• 51:54
  But you're seeing that there is a very active war right now
• 51:57
  between the Treasury and and the Fed and it looks like all the
• 52:01
  central bankers are on the Fed side like surprise, surprise.
• 52:05
  Anyways, I would get your thoughts on this, Brian, But I
• 52:07
  since I do have a hard stop, I do want to give you some more
• 52:10
  time to talk about Club Orange. So I will, you know, quickly go
• 52:13
  through this commercial and then we'll talk about Club orange.
• 52:16
  So I'm not ignoring you, Brian and chat.
• 52:19
  I know you guys yell at me like Opti so rude.
• 52:21
  He didn't get the guest, the guest opinion on it.
• 52:23
  I know I, I, I, I got a hard stop, so forgive me this time
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  Brian, forgive me this time. But we do got to chat Club
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  again. Forgive me for ignoring you in
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  the last segment, but I, I need some time to chat with you bro,
• 54:37
  about all the things with Club Orange.
• 54:40
  Formerly Orange collapsed. So I think let's just start
• 54:42
  there. Let's start with the rebrand.
• 54:45
  Why'd you guys do this and how did you guys settle on Club
• 54:49
  Orange? Well, yeah.
• 54:51
  So yeah, just to stamp that again, if you've heard of Orange
• 54:56
  pull app, we've been, we've we've been out in the market for
• 54:59
  since 2023. Club or Orange pull app is now
• 55:03
  Club Orange. So if you were confused about
• 55:06
  that, if you didn't know what Club Orange was, if you thought
• 55:08
  I just got hired by a different company or something, no, same
• 55:11
  company, new name. And to put it in a, in a
• 55:14
  nutshell, one, I think the, the, the branding's better.
• 55:18
  But when you have an Italian founder and they're trying to
• 55:21
  pronounce orange pill app, it people type in the wrong names.
• 55:26
  They, they, they put the wrong URL, they put, they, they, they
• 55:29
  look up the wrong app in the App Store.
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  So it's like they put in things like orange peel and whatever,
• 55:34
  like nothing rhymes with orange and nothing basically rhymes
• 55:39
  with club. So you, you, you can't mistake
• 55:41
  those two words. It's simplicity.
• 55:43
  And at the end of the day, we want to bring people back to in
• 55:48
  real life. The future is in real life.
• 55:51
  Experiences online are going to have a place.
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  You're always going to come to simply Bitcoin in the morning
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  for your, for your morning show and then you're going to pop
• 56:00
  back on and get your news or you're, you're going to get one
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  of the shorts at night. Like like we're going to tap
• 56:04
  into the Internet. But, but the future, we're not
• 56:07
  going to live on the Internet anymore.
• 56:09
  We're not going to be doomed scrolling through X or TikTok
• 56:12
  like like we used to. If you look at any of the
• 56:14
  metrics, those things are starting to fall off.
• 56:16
  And Bitcoiners have been ahead of this trend for a long time.
• 56:20
  And that's why Mateo built this app is so that Bitcoiners can
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  connect in real life. If you don't know any Bitcoiners
• 56:27
  where you live or if you're traveling some somewhere and
• 56:30
  maybe you know Bitcoiners back home, but you don't know
• 56:32
  bitcoiners where you're traveling to guess what, there
• 56:34
  is an app for that. It's called Club Orange.
• 56:37
  We've built every tool imaginable in this app that
• 56:40
  would enable you to more easily connect with other bitcoiners.
• 56:44
  We we have, you know, robust messaging, We have all all sorts
• 56:48
  of things to connect. But the coolest thing that we
• 56:50
  have right now aside, and this isn't even considering the the
• 56:54
  lightning wallet, the native Lightning wallet we have that
• 56:56
  that is probably the most used lightning wallet in the world
• 57:00
  right now, but I won't even mention that.
• 57:02
  I didn't even say it, OK, because what I want to talk
• 57:04
  about today is the the, the ticketing that we just created.
• 57:08
  We just launched it today through the events page.
• 57:11
  So you can get tickets to any in real life event, big or small
• 57:18
  through Orangeville app. And So what makes this such a
• 57:22
  powerful tool is that you can pay in Bitcoin natively through
• 57:27
  the app, you get the tickets instantly.
• 57:29
  And guess what, for some of the biggest conferences in the
• 57:31
  world, we are negotiating bulk pricing that you guys get.
• 57:37
  You guys benefit from that bulk pricing because you're, you're
• 57:41
  paying in Bitcoin, you're saving that, you're saving the event
• 57:44
  merchant fees and you're, but you're, you're tapping into our
• 57:48
  bulk pricing. And so we are trying to make it
• 57:51
  just undeniably unreasonably simple for bitcoiners to know
• 57:56
  other bitcoiners in real life. I love Opti, not because I've
• 58:00
  watched his show for a long time, but guess what?
• 58:03
  Every time we're at a conference, we, we find each
• 58:05
  other, we give each other a hug. I I get to to pat them on the
• 58:10
  arm and just be like man, you're you're unnaturally jacked, like
• 58:14
  I don't think this could be natural, how buff you are right
• 58:17
  now. But there there is something
• 58:19
  about connecting with somebody in real life and it is magic.
• 58:22
  It is the best part of being a Bitcoiner is the in real life
• 58:25
  experience. So if you've only experienced
• 58:27
  the chat section of simply Bitcoin in the Bitcoin community
• 58:31
  or if you've only experienced Bitcoin X, you're missing out on
• 58:35
  the coolest part of Bitcoin guys.
• 58:37
  There are local bitcoiners in your neighborhood.
• 58:39
  I guarantee it if you go on club Orange, you will find them.
• 58:43
  If you go to the events page, you will find all the Bitcoin
• 58:46
  only meetups and guys. That is the biggest problem when
• 58:50
  when the price runs, which it's going to Opti and I have told
• 58:53
  you the price is going to run when the price runs, you go to
• 58:57
  another like like like a general non Bitcoin specific site that
• 59:02
  that hosts events. You will for sure think you're
• 59:05
  going to a Bitcoin event and it is going to be a web three
• 59:08
  pitch. It is going to be the newest
• 59:10
  crypto coin pitch and you're going to sit there for 30
• 59:13
  minutes before you walk out of the door.
• 59:15
  It is so important that we filter every single one of these
• 59:19
  events for Bitcoin only if you are a Bitcoin maxi.
• 59:22
  I promise you that the events you find on orange pull up will
• 59:25
  be Bitcoin maxi events, and that is a promise you can take to the
• 59:29
  bank. You can take it to the
• 59:30
  blockchain, whatever it it guys it.
• 59:32
  This is so important and every tool that you need to connect
• 59:36
  with other bitcoiners is in one place.
• 59:39
  Absolutely love it. Good man.
• 59:42
  You know, I need to take, I need to take some public speaking
• 59:45
  classes from you 'cause you're you're so succinct here I am.
• 59:48
  I ramble and go in circles like 47 times on one topic, but I
• 59:54
  think what is super interesting, and I actually said this before
• 59:57
  the show is like, you know, we, we always joke here on Simply
• 1:00:01
  Bitcoin that we are just like your Internet YouTube support
• 1:00:04
  group. You know, you come out, like you
• 1:00:06
  said, you hang out in the chat, it's cool, you know, we update
• 1:00:09
  you on what we think is the most important news, but you do need
• 1:00:13
  that in person support group. And that's why club Orange, I
• 1:00:17
  think will always kind of have a place, especially right now when
• 1:00:20
  it feels like we're in a bear market.
• 1:00:21
  You know, everyone's like it's over and yet we're chilling at
• 1:00:24
  like 93 K. So you know, I I totally,
• 1:00:28
  totally agree with like my best friends now are bitcoiners.
• 1:00:32
  I didn't, you know, Full disclosure, I didn't find them
• 1:00:34
  on orange because I, you know, I found them before orange pill
• 1:00:38
  app was a thing. But if you don't have bit
• 1:00:40
  corners in person that you consider like very close
• 1:00:44
  friends, I, I highly suggest that you curate a, you know, an
• 1:00:49
  environment, a community around you.
• 1:00:51
  It's like the best thing I've ever done is hang out with all
• 1:00:54
  bit corners. Like literally my job, I moved,
• 1:00:56
  I I've every time I've moved out of my hometown, it was to hang
• 1:01:00
  out with bit corners. And I totally, I'm totally 100%
• 1:01:04
  behind the idea like you need to meet Bitcoiners in person and
• 1:01:07
  this whole ticketing thing, man, it is, it is starting to look
• 1:01:11
  like club Orange is becoming the all in one community in person
• 1:01:15
  app now, not only sending zaps, you know, buying tickets there,
• 1:01:19
  meeting people, communicating with people.
• 1:01:22
  I it's really, really awesome to see what you guys have been
• 1:01:25
  building. You guys are absolutely killing
• 1:01:27
  it. That's that's really cool.
• 1:01:28
  It's like, what's that? I don't want to say it's like
• 1:01:32
  Ticketmaster now, but there's that other app that's like, man,
• 1:01:37
  I'm, I'm, I'm blanking on call. Us, the Ticketmaster of Bitcoin
• 1:01:39
  event. Yeah, we'll all right, We'll
• 1:01:40
  take that. Ticketmaster of Bitcoin Events,
• 1:01:42
  Orange. Is the Ticketmaster of Bitcoin
• 1:01:44
  events? Yeah, we'll take that scammy
• 1:01:45
  though. We're not going to let you
• 1:01:46
  resell your tickets on here. I think they're I think.
• 1:01:48
  I think Ticketmaster is letting scalpers work now.
• 1:01:51
  So anyways. But I think the you know this, I
• 1:01:55
  don't since you just launched it, right?
• 1:01:57
  You just launched this like today.
• 1:01:58
  Let me let me check this. It's yeah, literally today,
• 1:02:01
  right before you went on the show.
• 1:02:04
  This is probably in my opinion, one of the best reasons to get
• 1:02:08
  on orange pill app whether you want or sorry, sorry, Club
• 1:02:11
  orange. Wow, wow.
• 1:02:13
  Freudian I. Did it too.
• 1:02:17
  Is like you said, you get you get discounts on all the
• 1:02:20
  tickets. So if you want to go to Bitcoin
• 1:02:21
  events, it's like a no brainer. Why?
• 1:02:24
  Why would you be buying it anywhere else?
• 1:02:26
  You want a discount on Everyone likes a discount like we we all,
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  let's be honest, we all like a good little discount.
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  So this is probably the best reason for you guys to download
• 1:02:34
  Club Orange app on all the all the play stores, right?
• 1:02:40
  All the Google apples and all that.
• 1:02:41
  Stuff, yeah. And, and you guys like when Opti
• 1:02:45
  said it just rings true that the highs of Bitcoin are never
• 1:02:50
  better than when you're with other bitcoiners and the lows,
• 1:02:53
  they're bearable when you have accountability, when you have
• 1:02:56
  other bitcoiners who are in the trenches with you.
• 1:02:58
  Both, both ends of that spectrum are good.
• 1:03:01
  And even I'm forgetting about the middle.
• 1:03:03
  We're kind of in the middle right now.
• 1:03:04
  We're kind of in this boring phase where you you don't you,
• 1:03:09
  you don't kind of get much enthusiasm.
• 1:03:11
  You're you're paying attention to the market, you're finding
• 1:03:13
  out what's going on. But guess what, you want to be
• 1:03:15
  around other Bitcoiners because there's what when you have
• 1:03:18
  Bitcoin in common, you have six other things in common.
• 1:03:20
  And that's just the way that it works.
• 1:03:22
  You're you're going to find people who are just fun to talk
• 1:03:24
  to. I would call it starting out on
• 1:03:26
  relationship second base. When you meet a bitcoiner in
• 1:03:29
  real life, you just, you know, that person you get, you get to
• 1:03:32
  get to a good conversation very, very quickly with them.
• 1:03:36
  And so, yeah, that's the future is in real life.
• 1:03:41
  Club Orange is the tool to bring in real life at your fingertips.
• 1:03:46
  We couldn't, we couldn't do any more.
• 1:03:49
  I don't think there's any other features that we can build.
• 1:03:50
  And we're always trying to iterate.
• 1:03:52
  We're going to, if there is another feature, we we will add
• 1:03:54
  it. But I believe that Club Orange
• 1:03:56
  has every possible feature that you would need in order to meet
• 1:04:00
  other Bitcoiners. And guys, it's just fun.
• 1:04:03
  It I think for so many people, Bitcoin becomes this, this, this
• 1:04:08
  thing of tension. It becomes this thing of why I'm
• 1:04:11
  just I'm waiting for something to happen.
• 1:04:13
  Guys, you don't have to wait. You can participate in Bitcoin
• 1:04:17
  today. There's merchants on Bitcoin if
• 1:04:19
  you want to go buy a coffee somewhere, if you want to get a
• 1:04:21
  haircut in Bitcoin or whatever. Those things exist as well.
• 1:04:24
  Participate in Bitcoin start to like start to learn what the
• 1:04:27
  Bitcoin economy is going to feel like it it it exists.
• 1:04:30
  The Bitcoin economy exists. You can find it on Orange pill
• 1:04:33
  app or you can find it on Club orange.
• 1:04:36
  See it. It was such a great name before
• 1:04:38
  the club Orange. Yeah.
• 1:04:40
  It just takes practice. I mean, I've been saying this
• 1:04:42
  for two months now and I still, yeah.
• 1:04:43
  But guys, it exists on Club Orange.
• 1:04:45
  Club Orange it it is the tool that allows you to zip into the
• 1:04:51
  future of what the Bitcoin economy is going to look like.
• 1:04:54
  Those who understand who, who, who are are early to the Bitcoin
• 1:04:58
  economy are, are like, they have a huge advantage.
• 1:05:02
  If you were, if you were early to TikTok, all you needed to do
• 1:05:05
  was be on TikTok and you could be this huge sensation, right?
• 1:05:08
  All you needed to do was be early to Twitter.
• 1:05:10
  And just by by being on those platforms in those networks
• 1:05:14
  early, you benefited from the, the growing network effect of
• 1:05:18
  those networks. Metcalf's law not only benefited
• 1:05:20
  the network, it benefited the people who are on the network.
• 1:05:23
  If you are in the Bitcoin economy, you are going to
• 1:05:26
  benefit from that. You're going to have more
• 1:05:28
  economic connections with other Bitcoiners.
• 1:05:31
  Bitcoiners will have the greatest buying power.
• 1:05:33
  They'll be the most sophisticated people.
• 1:05:34
  They will be the most interesting people.
• 1:05:36
  There's no reason why you wouldn't want to have more
• 1:05:39
  Bitcoin friends. Club Orange, that's what we
• 1:05:41
  exist for, is to make that seamless and easy for you.
• 1:05:45
  Let's go. Hey Brian.
• 1:05:46
  Look, I know Mateo hates when I always joke about this, but you
• 1:05:50
  guys are not doing yourselves any favors with the rebrand of
• 1:05:54
  Club Orange as not being a Bitcoin dating app.
• 1:05:57
  It's literally like I was at the club, I was at Club Orange and
• 1:06:00
  look, I found my wife anyways. We have had a Bitcoin, we've
• 1:06:05
  had, we've had one marriage so far that we know of through the
• 1:06:08
  app. So you never know.
• 1:06:10
  Hey, everything's a dating app if you use it correctly.
• 1:06:13
  That's right. Correctly if you use it
• 1:06:15
  correctly. Oh man, I do actually, I I got
• 1:06:20
  one more joke here because, you know, the whole Mateo being
• 1:06:25
  Italian and saying orange peel app.
• 1:06:27
  You know, I also love trolling the CEO of my company as well.
• 1:06:31
  It's one of my favorite things to do.
• 1:06:33
  I literally do it five days a week and I get paid to do it.
• 1:06:35
  It's absolutely amazing. So I'm glad that we can connect
• 1:06:38
  on that same idea as well. But Brian, I do want to pivot a
• 1:06:42
  little bit because I I think you glazed over it, you glossed over
• 1:06:47
  it, you you completely didn't hit on it.
• 1:06:49
  But I think I think you need to, you know, flex your muscles here
• 1:06:53
  real quick about the club orange wallet because the number you
• 1:06:57
  told me I like that. That did kind of like blow my
• 1:07:00
  mind. I I think that's a very powerful
• 1:07:02
  message here. You you got to say it before we
• 1:07:04
  end today's show. Yeah, so, well, the reason why
• 1:07:07
  I'm going to give you a stat here, but the reason why is the
• 1:07:10
  the Club Orange wallet, the Club Orange Lightning wallet has
• 1:07:14
  functionality that no, literally no other Lightning wallet in the
• 1:07:17
  world has. You can you could send 50,000
• 1:07:22
  SAT's or 50,000 zaps individual transactions at any given time
• 1:07:27
  like you, you with the push of 1 button.
• 1:07:29
  You could you could ZAP every bitcoiner on the network if you
• 1:07:32
  wanted to. We have features like mass
• 1:07:34
  zapping. You could you could ZAP just
• 1:07:36
  bitcoiners in El Salvador, say you want to, you know, wish them
• 1:07:38
  well or you want to, you know, wish everybody in in Georgia a
• 1:07:42
  happy holidays or whatever you want to do.
• 1:07:44
  You can get so nuanced with this and the all that technology,
• 1:07:49
  what it does is it's allowed us to be the fastest growing
• 1:07:51
  Lightning wallet in Bitcoin history.
• 1:07:54
  The the most popular wallets that that most of us are pretty
• 1:07:58
  familiar with took about a year or two years to get to 1,000,000
• 1:08:02
  transactions in under a year. We are, excuse me, in about a
• 1:08:06
  year we got to three and a half million transactions.
• 1:08:08
  So we about 350% faster growth in terms of transactions then
• 1:08:15
  pretty much any other lightning wallet in the world.
• 1:08:16
  And so guys, it's it's what makes it so fast and why it's
• 1:08:22
  happening so quickly is because it's fun.
• 1:08:25
  Most Bitcoiners, and this is this is actually a true most
• 1:08:28
  Bitcoiners have never sent a lightning transaction.
• 1:08:30
  Guys, if you're on club warrant, it is so easy to send lightning
• 1:08:35
  transactions. Just send a SAT just send a
• 1:08:37
  couple SAT. Every time I log into the app
• 1:08:41
  I've I've received like 40 sats just because random people ZAP
• 1:08:44
  you for random reasons. They send little messages.
• 1:08:46
  Hey, how's it going? Hey, hey, like you know, Merry
• 1:08:49
  Christmas or whatever. Every time you open the app you
• 1:08:51
  will have sat sent to you because people are just playing
• 1:08:54
  with this technology. Why did the Internet become the
• 1:08:57
  Internet that we know today is because there was a group of
• 1:09:00
  really, really interesting people who just played with the
• 1:09:04
  Internet for a generation. That's what helps it grow.
• 1:09:08
  That's that's how how kids learn new skills is through play.
• 1:09:11
  And that's the same thing Like you will get good.
• 1:09:13
  It sounds kind of dumb to say this.
• 1:09:15
  You can be good or bad at Bitcoin.
• 1:09:17
  You will get good at Bitcoin if you play with Bitcoin.
• 1:09:20
  So like Trump said, play with your bitcoins and enjoy the the
• 1:09:24
  the Bitcoin social layer. We're here on Club Orange to
• 1:09:27
  make it easy. Let's go.
• 1:09:28
  Awesome, Brian. It's always a pleasure having
• 1:09:31
  you on the show. I, I have.
• 1:09:35
  I I I've, I don't know what I did, but I deleted club orange
• 1:09:39
  off my home screen somehow and I don't know how to get it back
• 1:09:42
  on. So for everyone out there that I
• 1:09:46
  haven't responded to recently, it's because I can't find the
• 1:09:49
  app. So I, I can only see it when I
• 1:09:52
  get messages. I, I don't know how, how I did
• 1:09:54
  it. I, I don't know what the hell
• 1:09:56
  happened, but that's why I, well, also I, yeah, notoriously
• 1:10:01
  exactly. I'm notoriously bad at
• 1:10:03
  responding. But yeah, so I, I've seen a
• 1:10:05
  couple of messages, but yeah, I don't know what I did.
• 1:10:08
  I like, yeah, anyway, Boomer, boomer moment, boomer moment
• 1:10:11
  here. But Brian, thank you so much and
• 1:10:13
  everyone again, to be clear here, Brian, before we go, it is
• 1:10:17
  on the Google Store, Google Play Store and the Apple App Store.
• 1:10:22
  Club Orange officially rebranded.
• 1:10:26
  OK, let's go. I was I was sorry, I was reading
• 1:10:31
  a comment. Yes, Club Orange and both the
• 1:10:33
  app stores, Apple, Apple place or excuse me, Google Play store,
• 1:10:37
  Apple store, Club orange.com. If you have any questions club
• 1:10:40
  orange.com, feel free to reach out to us on ACTUALLY.
• 1:10:43
  Wait, wait, wait. Club orange.org.
• 1:10:45
  Yes, I was literally reading the URL as I said it.
• 1:10:51
  I I think our marketing campaign is going to be this from now on.
• 1:10:55
  We're gonna say the wrong one and then have somebody correct
• 1:10:58
  it 'cause that helps it stick. So Club orange.org is going to
• 1:11:02
  get you to the correct site. But yeah, if you have any
• 1:11:05
  questions or anything like that, if you delete it off your home
• 1:11:07
  screen like like Opti did, then just reach out to us on X.
• 1:11:10
  And we'll help you get. To help you get signed in and
• 1:11:12
  and and good to go. Yeah, I, I'm pretty sure I'm
• 1:11:15
  still signed in. I just, I, I don't know my, my
• 1:11:17
  phone always. Like, you know when you click
• 1:11:19
  your phone on the iPhone and, and you like, get all the
• 1:11:22
  options that come on? I do that like 4 times a day.
• 1:11:26
  And I, I don't know what the hell happened, but I can't find
• 1:11:29
  it on my phone. I need to figure it out.
• 1:11:30
  I'll I'll I'll get the app on my home screen again, but I, I, I
• 1:11:34
  could, I only see it when people respond or like DM me and stuff.
• 1:11:38
  So I have a hard. Trouble.
• 1:11:39
  You've got like 5000 SAT sitting in your wallet.
• 1:11:42
  I bet I do. Yeah, I bet I do.
• 1:11:45
  Anyways, Brian, it's always a pleasure.
• 1:11:47
  And actually one last thing I got to say before we go off.
• 1:11:50
  If you ever do meet Brian in person, you will realize that
• 1:11:54
  this guy is 7 foot tall. So, you know, he said I'm Bob.
• 1:11:57
  This guy's literally a giant over here.
• 1:11:59
  So you know when you see him, you're going to be really be
• 1:12:02
  like, Oh yeah, Opti wasn't lying.
• 1:12:04
  He is like legitimately 7 foot tall.
• 1:12:07
  This guy's a monster. So, you know, it's always good
• 1:12:10
  to see you, Brian. It's always a pleasure.
• 1:12:12
  Likewise, my friend. All right, Brian, hang out for a
• 1:12:15
  second. Let me wrap up the show and we
• 1:12:18
  will be back tomorrow. All right, guys, this week will
• 1:12:24
  be a little weird for most of you guys.
• 1:12:26
  You'll be OK with it, but you're you're stuck with me for the
• 1:12:29
  most part. I want to be handling most of
• 1:12:30
  the duties this week, but Nikka will be in and out.
• 1:12:34
  He's got a packed, packed schedule this week.
• 1:12:37
  So you already know we're going to get super bullish this week.
• 1:12:39
  Hopefully some, you know, crazy bullish stuff happens because
• 1:12:44
  I'm going to be bullish anyways. All right, guys, peace out.
• 1:12:47
  I will see you tomorrow. Have a good rest of your day.
• 1:12:49
  All that good stuff and that's boy Opti, peace out.
• 1:12:53
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