Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Monday Mini: Americans Are Leaving

Transcript

Monday Mini: Americans Are Leaving · Stuff Mom Never Told You

0:05
Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sanny and Samantha.
0:06
Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff on Never Toally proprection by her radio.
0:18
Speaker 1: And welcome to another Monday MANI And you know what,
0:22
Speaker 1: the world is turning upside down and with many people
0:27
Speaker 1: fearing what may happen in the future. I am many people.
0:30
Speaker 1: By the way, it isn't surprising to see that for
0:33
Speaker 1: my FYP it is completely inundated with recommendations on where
0:38
Speaker 1: to go if you're trying to leave the US. Any
0:42
Speaker 1: have you got hit with any of these? No, but
0:45
Speaker 1: I'm not on social media and social media, but are you, like,
0:48
Speaker 1: do you have any advertisements or even any inklings or conversations?
0:51
Speaker 1: Has any articles popped up for you?
0:53
Speaker 2: No?
0:55
Speaker 1: Interesting? Just me as fair. It's fair. Also, I'm getting
0:59
Speaker 1: a lot of videos on getting medical care for a
1:02
Speaker 1: lot cheaper around the world than the US, and people
1:06
Speaker 1: going on what's called medical tourism, and people are going
1:09
Speaker 1: to I've seen Turkey a lot, South Korea a lot,
1:12
Speaker 1: but just like other countries, I've seen a few people
1:15
Speaker 1: going to Mexico. I don't know if it's racism, and
1:18
Speaker 1: so therefore it seems like people talking about things that
1:21
Speaker 1: are happening in Mexico not not being as good as
1:24
Speaker 1: other places. I feel like that maybe underlying of racism
1:27
Speaker 1: in general and capitalism in the US. So I don't know,
1:30
Speaker 1: but I've seen a lot more for like Turkey and
1:32
Speaker 1: South Korea, and by the way, South Korea has a
1:33
Speaker 1: lot of shady practices, like unqualified people pretending to be surgeons.
1:39
Speaker 1: But anyway, all of that to say, like, there's a
1:41
Speaker 1: lot of this coming into my feed. So because of
1:44
Speaker 1: all this, this has been something that's in the back
1:47
Speaker 1: of my head, like I thought I might go somewhere.
1:50
Speaker 1: Where should I go? How does this process look? So
1:52
Speaker 1: I decided to take a look at the current trends
1:55
Speaker 1: and statistics in this hellhole healthscape of the government and
2:00
Speaker 1: what is happening. And no surprise, numbers have increased for
2:04
Speaker 1: those who are actually moving and increase numbers for those
2:07
Speaker 1: who want to move. So a lot of this is
2:09
Speaker 1: being said, I will say put here, Yeah, this is
2:13
Speaker 1: all about people with money, so people who can afford it,
2:16
Speaker 1: people who aren't tied down, people who don't have family
2:18
Speaker 1: that they don't have to take care of. This is
2:20
Speaker 1: very privileged talk, and I get that, but it still
2:23
Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that people are talking about it,
2:26
Speaker 1: and for those who can't do it, they also wish
2:29
Speaker 1: they could. Like there's this level of like, no, but
2:32
Speaker 1: I need to leave. Help me raise my fund. So
2:34
Speaker 1: I've seen people just trying to get up of their states.
2:36
Speaker 1: So a lot of trans people out of Texas, Georgia,
2:39
Speaker 1: anywhere in the South, like please help me get out
2:41
Speaker 1: of here to at least go to California, to New
2:43
Speaker 1: York where I have access if nothing else. So there's
2:46
Speaker 1: a lot of that conversation. It's bad, but so here,
2:52
Speaker 1: we thought we'd take a minute to look at statistics
2:54
Speaker 1: as well as where people are recommending to go. So
2:57
Speaker 1: this is from Seattle Times. Dot Com estimated one thy
3:01
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty five at US citizens expectorated in
3:04
Speaker 1: the first quarter of twenty twenty five, making one hundred
3:07
Speaker 1: and two percent increase compared with the last quarter of
3:11
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Then this is according to a report
3:14
Speaker 1: from CS Global Partners, which analyze the toxics from the
3:17
Speaker 1: US Federal Register. Should this pattern continue, twenty twenty five
3:21
Speaker 1: is poised to see a record high number of Americans
3:24
Speaker 1: relocating overseas, surpassing the previous peak in twenty twenty, during
3:29
Speaker 1: the height of the COVID nineteen pandemic. The numbers are high,
3:33
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk a little more about those
3:35
Speaker 1: numbers in a minute. But yeah, a lot of people
3:36
Speaker 1: are leaving. That is a record one hundred and two
3:39
Speaker 1: percent increase, like it is more than double. Have you
3:44
Speaker 1: thought about possibly leaving the country.
3:48
Speaker 2: I've thought about it, but not seriously. I have two
3:51
Speaker 2: what would you go?
3:52
Speaker 1: We have to I haveings, like actual physical things, or
3:57
Speaker 1: like obligation or bones.
3:59
Speaker 2: Okay, I I New Zealand's that's New Zealand place.
4:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently it's one of the top ones. Like everybody's
4:08
Speaker 1: list has New Zealand and there. New Zealand scares me.
4:11
Speaker 1: There's so many creatures. We just talked about this with Ease.
4:14
Speaker 1: Too many creatures out there in New Zealand. I know
4:16
Speaker 1: is different from Australia, but they both have creatures unknown.
4:21
Speaker 2: I will say Australia and my experience because I have
4:24
Speaker 2: been to both, Australia has a lot more concerns in
4:30
Speaker 2: that arena. But I don't know. You could be right.
4:35
Speaker 2: Maybe it's an unknown.
4:37
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I just don't know well enough. New Zealand
4:39
Speaker 1: has also been the dream spot to vacation. Yeah, also,
4:43
Speaker 1: like you do want to see it, That's what I've heard.
4:45
Speaker 1: I do have people who I do know, people who
4:47
Speaker 1: live there and who are from there, so I feel like,
4:49
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still a large country, so I can't
4:52
Speaker 1: like like I know someone there, So you know, that
4:55
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they know all of New Zealand, but they
4:56
Speaker 1: definitely know New Zealand better than I do. But yeah,
4:59
Speaker 1: that is spot and Yeah, people are actually using relocation
5:04
Speaker 1: services to find the best places for them, so this
5:07
Speaker 1: business is booming, these relocation services. Here's another quote from
5:11
Speaker 1: The Guardian. They write, since Trump's return to power, relocation
5:14
Speaker 1: firms from London to Lisbon and Madrid to Milan save.
5:18
Speaker 1: They've seen US searge and inquiries from Americans and daunted
5:21
Speaker 1: by the gains made by the far right across the continent.
5:24
Speaker 1: Many Americans cite a desire to escape the US's increasingly
5:28
Speaker 1: polarized climate and an administration whose wide range of targets
5:31
Speaker 1: has included immigrants, diversity measures, and political opponents. And then
5:36
Speaker 1: they continue, statistics show that the barrage of interest is
5:40
Speaker 1: translating into action. In the first two months of the year,
5:44
Speaker 1: US applications for Irish passports were at their highest level
5:48
Speaker 1: in a decade, up sixty percent from the same period
5:51
Speaker 1: last year. In the first three months of the year,
5:54
Speaker 1: France reported a rise in the number of long stay
5:56
Speaker 1: visa requests from Americans, while in March the number of
6:00
Speaker 1: Americans who had solicited British citizenship in the twelve months
6:03
Speaker 1: before search to its highest since record keeping began in
6:07
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. So people are going now. I
6:09
Speaker 1: will say my choices do not include France, nor England
6:13
Speaker 1: or the UK in general, mainly because they're not doing
6:16
Speaker 1: so great either, Like it seems like that, yes, they're
6:20
Speaker 1: better off than the US in my opinion, but they're
6:23
Speaker 1: still kind of arising into the conservatism as well. We
6:26
Speaker 1: see the anti trans rhetoric happening in the UK and
6:28
Speaker 1: it's really gross. There's been an uprise in anti immigration
6:33
Speaker 1: stances within the UK as well. Now I know we
6:36
Speaker 1: have some UK listeners, so you can let us know
6:39
Speaker 1: how far it's gone, because obviously we're kind of blinded
6:43
Speaker 1: by our own issues, but we do want to know
6:45
Speaker 1: what's going around. I have the France, I mean, they well,
6:50
Speaker 1: there's a lot happening France.
6:51
Speaker 2: I was reading about this when I couldn't sleep the
6:54
Speaker 2: other night. I was like, oh my gosh.
7:00
Speaker 1: My ministers are being let go left and right.
7:02
Speaker 2: So wow, votes have no confidence, my goodness.
7:07
Speaker 1: But at least it feels like that means the citizens
7:11
Speaker 1: are being heard versus what's happening here.
7:14
Speaker 2: But you know what the frustrating thing is every time,
7:17
Speaker 2: and I know French people, I don't have to tell you,
7:21
Speaker 2: but every time Marie the pin comes up and I'm like,
7:24
Speaker 2: you're still around, You're still around.
7:29
Speaker 1: Don't you feel shocked by that? You're like, wait, I
7:31
Speaker 1: thought you were going to tell what Oh.
7:33
Speaker 2: My gosh, and you have a statement and you're like,
7:36
Speaker 2: well now it's my time.
7:37
Speaker 1: Oh my, here I go. Right. But you know, yeah,
7:43
Speaker 1: like I said, this could be just from what we
7:45
Speaker 1: see based on the US. Again, yeah, I know all
7:50
Speaker 1: of our self are censored, and I know we're not
7:52
Speaker 1: getting all of the news. It's feeling very dark here.
7:55
Speaker 1: But again, like as a Korean, I'm like, I don't
7:58
Speaker 1: think I wanna go there, and I don't want to
7:59
Speaker 1: go to the South Korea either, y'all because I see
8:01
Speaker 1: the same things. I'm like, there's a lot at least
8:03
Speaker 1: the citizens have a lot more rights. But when it
8:05
Speaker 1: comes to like the pressures and the anti stuff with
8:10
Speaker 1: like the queer community, anti stuff with like women in general,
8:13
Speaker 1: I don't want to be there. Like I'm trying to
8:15
Speaker 1: find a better point, and unfortunately South Korea does not
8:19
Speaker 1: look like it's getting better at this point. I'm not
8:22
Speaker 1: trying to diss all the countries. I'm so sorry. I've
8:24
Speaker 1: just tried to be like, is it good or is
8:27
Speaker 1: it our censorship like on that, But I've seen a
8:30
Speaker 1: lot of good things about China recently, and at the
8:32
Speaker 1: same time, I'm like, but we know there's still some
8:36
Speaker 1: underlying issues within the covernment, so let's not get too
8:40
Speaker 1: caught up in that. So with all of that, Newsweek
8:54
Speaker 1: actually wrote this as well about the increases they wrote
8:58
Speaker 1: and this is all, by the way, twenty twenty five articles. Obviously,
9:01
Speaker 1: I feel like you can tell contact clues, but just
9:03
Speaker 1: in case y'all need to know, the things that we're
9:04
Speaker 1: reading currently is twenty twenty five unless otherwise stated. Is as.
9:07
Speaker 1: A recent survey conducted by Harris Pohl found that four
9:10
Speaker 1: and ten US adults forty two percent have considered or
9:13
Speaker 1: plan to relocate outside the country to improve their quality
9:16
Speaker 1: of life or financial position. Among younger generations, these numbers
9:20
Speaker 1: were even higher, at sixty three percent of Gen z
9:24
Speaker 1: ers and fifty two percent of millennials. I guess I'm
9:27
Speaker 1: in that fifty two percent because I've definitely been considering
9:32
Speaker 1: it and looking at my options. It's interesting to there
9:36
Speaker 1: was in this article one relocation firm from the in
9:40
Speaker 1: the Netherlands that have called this the Trump eugs like refugees,
9:46
Speaker 1: but they're running away from Trump. I don't want to
9:48
Speaker 1: put cute names on things. This is not cute because
9:50
Speaker 1: it's ugly. Anything with that name makes me think it's ugly.
9:52
Speaker 1: But it does indicate they know why the people are leaving. Yeah,
10:00
Speaker 1: so all of that is is that's how they've kind
10:02
Speaker 1: of stamped these people. And that was the title of
10:04
Speaker 1: the article. Ohkay, oh yeah, what is this? What is this?
10:10
Speaker 1: But and there again are many reasons people have been moving.
10:14
Speaker 1: This is for my twenty twenty four Yeah, here we go.
10:17
Speaker 1: See article from Harvey Law Corporation dot com. And yes,
10:20
Speaker 1: they're doing this in the process of being like, hey,
10:22
Speaker 1: we'll help you leave the country. So it was an
10:24
Speaker 1: advertisement with their information, but just to put it up there.
10:28
Speaker 1: They wrote several things on the list, one of them
10:30
Speaker 1: being no affordable healthcare and higher costs of living in
10:34
Speaker 1: the US. They wrote this, the amount spent on healthcare
10:37
Speaker 1: in the US rose by seven point five percent in
10:40
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. This brings the total of to four
10:43
Speaker 1: point nine trillion dollars or fourteen thousand, five hundred and
10:47
Speaker 1: seventy dollars per person. This increase is similar to what
10:52
Speaker 1: it was before the pandemic. The soaring cost of living
10:55
Speaker 1: and healthcare in the United States is often cited as
10:58
Speaker 1: a primary reason for immigration. For many, the financial burden
11:02
Speaker 1: has become unsustainable, prompting them to seek more affordable alternatives abroad. Again,
11:09
Speaker 1: we talked about the medical tourism and how that has
11:12
Speaker 1: become a new thing, and it makes sense. It makes sense,
11:16
Speaker 1: especially with social media showing maybe a glamorized version, but
11:20
Speaker 1: showing access and what it looks like, and the amount
11:23
Speaker 1: of costs for places like Turkey and such, who know
11:28
Speaker 1: that the US are going to spend more than the
11:30
Speaker 1: locals because whatever the more is is still much less
11:34
Speaker 1: than what is in the US, and it's not contingent
11:38
Speaker 1: to work, which is all different conversation, like we've normalized that.
11:43
Speaker 1: It took years for me to realize, Oh, that shouldn't
11:46
Speaker 1: be normal. But anyway, all of that to say that
11:52
Speaker 1: this makes sense, like this reason for living alone, Like
11:55
Speaker 1: even if it's higher taxes, it's still cheaper.
11:57
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, my dad was really sick. He wanted he
12:02
Speaker 2: was talking about doing this, and I don't know if
12:06
Speaker 2: it would have been better or not, but he looked
12:08
Speaker 2: into it because he didn't know what else to do.
12:13
Speaker 1: Really, it really doesn't make sense because, as we know,
12:17
Speaker 1: we are already seeing conversations warning everyone that all of
12:23
Speaker 1: our premiums, all of our stuff is about to go up,
12:26
Speaker 1: possibly by twenty percent, if not twenty five percent, for
12:29
Speaker 1: everyone across the board. And this is those who are employed.
12:33
Speaker 1: That nobody's getting a raise. Technically the last few years
12:37
Speaker 1: we got a decrease, a significant decrease in our salary,
12:40
Speaker 1: but our interest is going up. And with the insurance,
12:42
Speaker 1: I'm still having to pay two thousand dollars for the
12:45
Speaker 1: appointments that I've had. Yeah, this is why I don't
12:49
Speaker 1: go with doctors.
12:50
Speaker 2: I know, we've talked about this, we have to think
12:53
Speaker 2: about this. We're like, oh, is it well maybe I'll
12:55
Speaker 2: just roll the dice and hope it turns out Okay, right, I.
12:58
Speaker 1: Think I'll self medicate sleeping. I'm just kidding. So another
13:03
Speaker 1: reason that they have cited was a work life balance,
13:06
Speaker 1: and we've talked about that many times. There was one
13:09
Speaker 1: video that just popped up before this that talked about
13:11
Speaker 1: what she hated about her work, and she was like,
13:13
Speaker 1: I only work twenty hours a week, but because I
13:16
Speaker 1: working I believe Denmark was where she's from. They're making
13:19
Speaker 1: me take my six week vacation leave because that's the
13:21
Speaker 1: amount that they have to go as a part time worker,
13:23
Speaker 1: no matter what, because if not, they would have to
13:25
Speaker 1: pay her out. But I'm like, you know, that's kind
13:27
Speaker 1: of gross. They should she wants to be paid out,
13:28
Speaker 1: she should, But at the same time, are you kidding me?
13:33
Speaker 1: They purposely tricked us with the unlimited PTO here in
13:37
Speaker 1: the US, saying that you have unlimited PTO when in
13:39
Speaker 1: an actual wality they're like, no, but you shouldn't take it,
13:44
Speaker 1: and they tricked us and they ended that was better,
13:47
Speaker 1: but it's not. But like in the US, they they
13:50
Speaker 1: don't care. Most of the times, you're two weeks. By
13:53
Speaker 1: the way, it's only two weeks guarantee vacation in a year,
13:57
Speaker 1: just goes away the next year. Yeah, oh yeah, and
14:02
Speaker 1: you don't get compensated with anything. You just don't get it.
14:05
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so used as if you got it. That's
14:09
Speaker 2: what everyone always tells you, and I never do.
14:11
Speaker 1: But right, right. Another thing, obviously, the big thing that
14:16
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been talking about with the trumpugees
14:19
Speaker 1: or you know, Trump refugees, is the political and social unrest.
14:24
Speaker 1: There's a lot we can say about this. Obviously for
14:28
Speaker 1: the queer community lgbt QIA folks, that's an obvious big
14:32
Speaker 1: conversation about where should we go all of our rights
14:35
Speaker 1: being taken away from us tramps people are literally being
14:39
Speaker 1: told they cannot have weapons or which is like Second Amendment,
14:42
Speaker 1: right unless you're trans for the point zero zero one
14:48
Speaker 1: percent who have actually committed crimes. Yeah, and for the
14:54
Speaker 1: what thousands and thousands who have died needless sleep by
15:00
Speaker 1: violence because they're trans. But you know what, whatever, we're that.
15:05
Speaker 1: Another part of that would be the refugees and immigration
15:08
Speaker 1: status as well, when we talk about even those who
15:13
Speaker 1: are quote unquote legally here and I don't like that
15:16
Speaker 1: term obviously but who have documents showing that they are
15:19
Speaker 1: here on visas, green cards, citizenships. All of that, they're
15:23
Speaker 1: still being deported. And now with the new ability to
15:27
Speaker 1: just profile anyone who is of color and detained based
15:31
Speaker 1: on whether or not they believe you or not. And
15:34
Speaker 1: then that you don't get deported to your home country,
15:36
Speaker 1: you get deported to a work camp or just disappeared.
15:42
Speaker 1: So that's a good reason to also leave. Many have
15:45
Speaker 1: voluntarily left, Many are scared and leaving. Many are me
15:49
Speaker 1: who are like, do I have options? But here's a
15:53
Speaker 1: quote from CNN, and this is I guess a person
15:55
Speaker 1: who's trying to help one of the relocation firms. They
15:59
Speaker 1: say the people who seek me out tend to be
16:01
Speaker 1: the people who fill their targets, he said, noting that
16:03
Speaker 1: his clients tend to be wealthy with the means to
16:05
Speaker 1: move abroad again wealthy. In the days following Trump's January
16:09
Speaker 1: executive order restricting gender affirming medical care for young people,
16:14
Speaker 1: lest parents or the dude who is interviewed and works
16:17
Speaker 1: as a relocation firm said he received seven inquiries from
16:20
Speaker 1: parents with a trans child. For these families, he said,
16:23
Speaker 1: American represents a political wildfire. Zone and they can smell
16:27
Speaker 1: the smoke more than the average white heterosexual melt with
16:29
Speaker 1: a mega hat on. So yeah, that's absolutely something that
16:34
Speaker 1: those who can't afford it and are supporting their families
16:37
Speaker 1: are trying to do rightly. So this is a very
16:40
Speaker 1: scary time. We know things are rolling in with the
16:44
Speaker 1: death of political activist Charlie Kirk, we know they're really
16:49
Speaker 1: trying to push that narrative without any concrete air of evidence,
16:54
Speaker 1: and that's what they did. We just had that episode
16:55
Speaker 1: with Rigid and immediately a day later there was a
16:58
Speaker 1: mass shooting trying to blame a trans person and with
17:01
Speaker 1: Bridgid of like they y'all see this like that is
17:04
Speaker 1: now as new rhetoric. One by one by one, it
17:07
Speaker 1: is constantly a thing, and people are trying to leave
17:10
Speaker 1: because they don't want to become victim to that or
17:12
Speaker 1: an excuse to die because this is kind of feeling
17:15
Speaker 1: like it's leading to martial law against specific groups of people.
17:29
Speaker 1: But with that, if you can't afford it, and if
17:32
Speaker 1: you have access, where are the best places to go?
17:35
Speaker 1: So Global Citizensolutions dot Com says the following. They have
17:39
Speaker 1: a lot of research and they do this as a constant.
17:43
Speaker 1: The top ten countries go as Portugal, which I've seen
17:45
Speaker 1: in a lot of lists, and apparently they want you
17:47
Speaker 1: to come. They don't give you a house if you
17:50
Speaker 1: have a babys well, I'm out the repopulating things or
17:55
Speaker 1: the thing Spain, Cyprus, Greece, Malta, Canada, Mexico, Germany, and Australia.
18:02
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because we're so close into
18:05
Speaker 1: Canada as in like there were neighboring we're North America together,
18:09
Speaker 1: but I've seen a lot of maga esque people coming
18:13
Speaker 1: out of the word wars in Canada, and they really
18:16
Speaker 1: seem to hate immigrants. Not all of them, there's a
18:19
Speaker 1: chunk of them. They're amazing, just like the US, but
18:22
Speaker 1: there's a like balance, it's very unsteady.
18:25
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I mean that's been kind of
18:27
Speaker 2: the disheartening thing is that, you know, when this election happened,
18:33
Speaker 2: and it's not like it's new, but we started to
18:37
Speaker 2: see a lot more of that coming out in other
18:39
Speaker 2: places too. Way it's like oh really.
18:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting real comfortable. They're like, oh, well the
18:46
Speaker 1: USA we are great.
18:48
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which yeah, it sucks because I know again, yeah,
18:53
Speaker 2: I know it's it sucks because I know a lot
18:55
Speaker 2: of people, probably most people in Canada aren't like that.
18:59
Speaker 2: A lot of people scared, not like that. But so
19:03
Speaker 2: it's just really frustrating. But it was like, oh no, yeah, yeah,
19:08
Speaker 2: they are too.
19:12
Speaker 1: So safest for queer folk and this is from Rainbow
19:15
Speaker 1: Rainbowmatt dot org. So they kind of give all this
19:18
Speaker 1: and they have a whole like qualifier, so they have
19:21
Speaker 1: a scoring sheet and you guys like these are the best,
19:23
Speaker 1: these are the worst. So the top ten for safest
19:26
Speaker 1: place for queer folks is Malta, which I have never
19:29
Speaker 1: considered Malta but heard is really beautiful, so you know, okay, Malta, Belgium, Iceland, Denmark, Spain, Finland, Greece, Germany, Norway,
19:40
Speaker 1: and Luxembourg. I'm also seen a lot of people talk
19:42
Speaker 1: about Luxembourg. They apparently want some some xpass in there too.
19:47
Speaker 1: But with that, I did see Ireland pretty higher up
19:50
Speaker 1: on their list as well. But these were the top
19:52
Speaker 1: top in like, okay, this is what we see as
19:55
Speaker 1: where the laws are good for you, where they were
19:57
Speaker 1: advocate for you, where you have opportunities, all these things,
20:00
Speaker 1: and then the safest for racial equity. Now, I put
20:03
Speaker 1: this with a caveat because I think they still there's
20:07
Speaker 1: things like when people say, oh, certain areas have such
20:11
Speaker 1: low racist issues and such la it's because black people
20:16
Speaker 1: or people of color don't live there and so the
20:20
Speaker 1: amount of incidents are less. So I feel like these
20:22
Speaker 1: are some of the things with this country. And again
20:24
Speaker 1: this is from a globalsolutions dot Com So I put
20:27
Speaker 1: this with a grain of salt in that you is
20:30
Speaker 1: it because it's safe or is it because you just
20:32
Speaker 1: haven't seen many black people or many people of color?
20:35
Speaker 1: And I say, aple people of color, Like, okay, you
20:37
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we have Denmarcus number one,
20:40
Speaker 1: New Zealand, Netherlands, Finland, Canada, Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Belgium, and Ireland.
20:47
Speaker 1: I've seen many people talking about how Ireland has been
20:51
Speaker 1: wonderful for people of color, but I've also seen recently
20:55
Speaker 1: a lot of antimigration rhetoric from the far right there
20:58
Speaker 1: as well. There's no good place. I know, the world
21:02
Speaker 1: is awful, but these are somewhat better. So maybe just
21:07
Speaker 1: keep traveling around if you have the money, and just
21:09
Speaker 1: keep working at different areas and figure out how to
21:12
Speaker 1: do this. No that's not a solution, okay, But anyway,
21:17
Speaker 1: that's some of the thoughts that have happened. If you
21:19
Speaker 1: are a person who all decide to immigrate, let us
21:23
Speaker 1: know if you're thinking about it, let us know what
21:25
Speaker 1: is the process, how are you going about it? If
21:28
Speaker 1: you're staying because you know you have to fight here,
21:30
Speaker 1: I feel like that's part of the conversation too. We
21:34
Speaker 1: don't want people to leave because we want to keep
21:37
Speaker 1: fighting for what is right here and fight for those
21:41
Speaker 1: who can't leave themselves. You know, I understand that and
21:45
Speaker 1: we get that, but also being safe is important.
21:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, Well let us know. You can email us
21:54
Speaker 2: at Hello at Stephmnever Told You dot com. You can
21:57
Speaker 2: find us on Blue Skype, offs a podcast, or on
21:59
Speaker 2: Instagram and TikTok at stuff I've Never Told You for
22:02
Speaker 2: us on YouTube. We have some merchandise at Cotton Bureau,
22:05
Speaker 2: and we have a book you can get where we
22:06
Speaker 2: get your books. Thanks as always to our super producer
22:09
Speaker 2: Christina or executive producer and a contributor Joey. Thank you
22:12
Speaker 2: and thanks to you for listening Stuff I've Never Told
22:14
Speaker 2: Yous fiction by Heart Radio. For more podcasts with my
22:16
Speaker 2: Heart Radio, you can check out the heart Radio app,
22:17
Speaker 2: Apple podcasts, or where you listen to your favorite shows.