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Who Are the Puppet Masters Behind the Trans Agenda? – Trevor Loudon Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. So an 11 year old child is slated to headline a drag queen story hour in Oregon this coming Sunday. This poor child is getting pimped out by a convicted child sex predator, while adults shower him or her with dollar bills at a so called family friendly event that will be policed by none other than Antifa. So by now, I think we've all realized that this isn't just about acceptance.
• 0:34
  This is truly an all out assault, and they're coming after our children from all angles. Matt Walsh recently released an outstanding documentary asking the question, what is a woman? And if you haven't seen it, I highly recommend you do. But there's one question he didn't ask. It's the one that should be burning a hole in all of our minds.
• 0:57
  Is all this trans stuff, this gender confusion, just some kind of social trend that's to be expected in late stage civilization? Or is it a well coordinated, highly sinister agenda? According to my guest today, author Trevor Loudon, that's precisely what it is. And if he's right, then who are the puppet masters behind it all? And just exactly what is their end goal?
• 1:24
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• 5:33
  Promo code Seth. Alright, folks. So what prompted this show is my wife and I recently watched the documentary put out by Matt Walsh called What Is A Woman, which is on Daily Wire. And if you haven't watched it yet, I highly, highly recommend it. It's just it it's so well done.
• 5:50
  And I happen to like conservative bearded commentators of glasses. You know? Accuse me of that. But anyway, Matt just does such a good job, and he digs into all of the phenomena of this trans and gay agenda that's not just happening in America. Because look, if if there's people that want to push for more equal rights, that's their own thing.
• 6:08
  But when it crosses this line, where the students or small children are going to school, and they're being taught the queer theory, gender identity, they're being confused about who they are, they're being encouraged to question their own sexuality, they're being taught how to do explicit sex acts in middle school. To me, this crosses a line. And one of the questions, though, that Matt didn't quite get to in his documentary was what's really behind this? Because it's easy to say, oh, well, Democrats are pushing this or, you know, Biden is pushing that. But is there a more nefarious plot behind this trans and LGBTQ plus agenda that's really being progressed at an incredible speed in America.
• 6:54
  And so I wanted to bring on one of my favorite people to talk to about these kinds of topics, someone who understands communism, but also understands the infiltration and the subversion of America and the intentional decades long plan to rot America from the inside out to make us right for the taking. So I'm so happy to bring on my guest today, Trevor Loudon.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: Hi. Excuse me. Thanks for having me on, Seth. Good to be here.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. So, Trevor, I had you on recently when we talked about one of your recent documentaries in music within the church, where you talked about the communist infiltration of the church, which was really eye opening and frightening. But I I really you know, I have some suspicions about what I believe is behind this agenda that we see. But I I wanna start with just showing some people what's happening. So I'm gonna play there's a recent video clip that Matt Walsh did where he's talking about a recent scene of a drag dancer, you know, or drag queen at a cafe where there's a young child that's watching.
• 7:59
  So let's go ahead and start the show with this clip, and I then wanna get your thoughts on this.
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: This, but the worst thing we can do is get bored of it and just stop paying attention. So we begin with footage of another all ages drag show, quote unquote, in Texas, attended and documented by Sarah Gonzalez of The Blaze. She says that, she has more footage on the way, but the thirty second clip that she posted yesterday is shocking enough on its own. It shows a man in drag lifting up his skirt and gyrating around while people throw money at him. And in the background, you can see a child who can't be more than, I don't know, six or seven years old, looking on confused and obviously completely disturbed.
• 8:44
  Meanwhile, the music, is blasting through the restaurant, is so vulgar and sexual that I can't play the clip with sound, and I can't even quote the lyrics to you. All I can say is that it's a woman rapping in extremely graphic terms about her genitals and about the various sex acts that she wants to perform. So there's at least one child.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: And this is just one of many, many videos that we're seeing coming out. So, Trevor, when you see this and when you see this this pattern of what they're doing to our children, how do you make sense of this?
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I believe that things don't really happen by accident. The fact that something like 20% of California schoolchildren now, you know, high schoolers, don't really know what gender they are isn't just a fad. That's a consciously driven social program driven by the left to basically break down the structure of the American family. It's that simple. And, you know, if you look at what is revolution?
• 9:58
  You know, revolution is overturning the natural hierarchies and systems that God has given us. So we've been given the church, we've been given the family, and we've been given civil government. All of those three institutions are under attack. They're being undermined and overturned. The gay rights agenda, the LGBTQ agenda, is a Marxist movement.
• 10:28
  It's completely initiated by Marxists. It's driven by Marxists. It's promulgated by Marxists, it is pushed on the family to break down social structures to pave the way for chaos and revolution. It's as simple as that. And there's a long history of this that goes back to the fifties.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: And so I think that if you go back to McCarthyism and, you know, the, you know, say, oh, it's a communist thing. It's a communist this or that. There are a lot of people that might say, well, yeah, it's really easy to say that. But, you know, through your research, what are some of the the proof and the the details of history that really illustrate the ties that this modern movement has to these Marxist roots?
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Well, the very first gay rights organization in America was set up about 1950. It was called the Matasheen Society, and it was named after some kind of masks that were worn in the Middle Ages, and it was set up by three or four Communist Party members, the leading one being Harry Hay from Los Angeles. So it was a Communist Party front that was originally called the Bachelor's Club because bachelor, apparently, back in the fifties and forties, was a common expression for homosexual. You know, words like gay and that sort of thing didn't even feature back in those days. So it started as a bachelor's club.
• 12:07
  It became the Mattachine Society. Now Harry Hay had been recruited into the Communist Party by his homosexual lover, a man called Will Gere, an actor. You may remember him as grandpa Walton in the Waltons. Okay. So Will Gere was homosexual, recruited Harry Hay, his lover, into the Communist Party.
• 12:33
  Harry Hay was active in Los Angeles. He was active in electoral politics. He was active in the late nineteen forties when Wallace, the the pro Communist, ran for ran for president. He was part of his campaign. But but the the gay rights movement was his overriding passion.
• 12:54
  And he started the Mattachine Society, and he actually withdrew from the Communist Party, not because he was no longer a communist, but in those days these were two fraught areas, homosexuality and communism. And the communists didn't want to be associated with it, and the homosexual movement didn't wanna be associated with communists because it was two scary things in the public's mind. So he deliberately withdrew from the Communist Party to amp this movement up, to keep it going. And eventually, the Matasin Society went a bit liberal, and they actually expelled the Communist Party members from their own ranks, the people who'd started it. But Harry Hay progressed.
• 13:43
  He started a group later on called the Radical Fairies. But this is critical. He was also an early founder and major supporter of the North American Man Boy Love Association, the first organization openly promoting pedophilia in The United States. And this organization was harassed by the FBI, etcetera, and there's still remnants of it out there, but this was the first openly pro pedophile organization. Can you imagine it?
• 14:15
  NAMBLA, North American Man Boy Love Association. Harry Hay went back to communism in the early 2000s when the Communist Party split. One faction became what is known as the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, and Harry Hay joined that organization. Every major gay group in the country is run by Marxists. ACT UP, you know, the Rainbow Coalition, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition of the eighties had a lavender stripe, which was run by Marxists.
• 14:56
  My own country, like in Britain, the leading gay activist at the time in the seventies was Peter Tatchell, a well known Marxist. In my country of New Zealand, the leading gay activist in New Zealand, the man who got homosexuality legalized in New Zealand, was Bill Logan of the Spartacus League. He was a Trotskyite. I could quote, currently the deputy editor of the Communist Party's People's World, a young man called CJ Atkins, was also a leading member of a Canadian gay rights organization. Every major gay rights organization in the country is run by Marxists.
• 15:42
  It's easy to determine, and the whole movement is driven by Marxists. The question is why? Why would they wanna do this? Well, Marx talked about the abolition of the family, did he not? The critical step for communizing a nation is to destroy, break down traditional family structures, the patriarchy, the traditional nuclear family.
• 16:11
  All of this has to be destroyed, and you show me a better wedge issue for breaking down the family than promoting homosexuality. I haven't found one yet. When young boys, people are terrified right now that their grandson's gonna come to Thanksgiving wearing a dress, or that their 12 year old granddaughter is gonna get her breast removed. You tell me this is not causing stress in America. You tell me this is not causing divorces and strains, that it's not creating chaos.
• 16:47
  It's exactly as it's intended to do. It's designed to weaken and destroy this country.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Why do you think there's such an intense focus on the children?
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Well, as Lenin and Stalin said, as Lenin said, give me the child, and I will have the man. I will have the future. Hitler said similar things. If you can, look, if you can destroy a person's identity, they are your slave. Now, if you don't even know what gender you are, how much control do you have of your identity?
• 17:28
  How much do you understand yourself? You are putty in the hands of the revolutionaries. And I'll tell you what, you're pretty darn useless for military service as well. Can you imagine the young teenagers today charging German Nazi machine guns on the beaches at Normandy? Can you imagine them liberating Europe or defending the country during the Revolutionary War?
• 17:54
  Did George Washington's troops have safe spaces? Did they have transgender bathrooms? Did they wear masculine clothes, or did some of them go battling the British wearing dresses? This is aimed at the military, it's aimed at society, it's aimed at just degeneration. It's one of many lines of attack by the Marxists to destroy the country.
• 18:23
  See, people have this illusion, communism faded away when the Berlin Wall fell. Well, communism now controls almost every university in the country. Communism controls the Democratic Party now. Communism controls most of Hollywood. Communism controls the labor unions.
• 18:46
  It controls many of the churches and the Bible colleges and seminaries. It's only natural that the communists would use sexual politics to create a revolutionary situation. You know, it's a fundamental thing. Wanna break down society. The family is the basic structure of society.
• 19:11
  You break that down, you cause chaos, you cause divorce, you cause crime, and all this kind of thing. People are diverted from really guarding their freedom. People just the society devolves into chaos, and you're easy meat for the revolutionaries. These poor young kids in the high schools are being brainwashed like you wouldn't believe, and if I told most Americans ten years ago that the communists were so powerful in this country that they could get teenage kids experimenting with homosexuality like it was a fashion, do you think I would have been believed? No.
• 19:53
  But that's what's happening. That's what's happening right now, even in the conservative communities across this country.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Let alone convincing a high school kid or even a middle school kid to go have their breasts removed or to go be put on puberty blockers, meaning they'll never be able to have children again. I mean, it's just astounding how accelerated this agenda has become and how much progress they've made with it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Here's a little horrifying thing for a man. A guy told me the other day, a doctor said, puberty blockers, people say, oh, they're harmless, you can go off them, everything's fine. But look, a young boy who goes on puberty blockers, his penis stops growing. So when he goes off them, he's a 25 year old man with an eight year old penis. What do you think that's gonna do to his self esteem in later years?
• 20:49
  We're gonna see so many suicides and mental illness because we're allowing our kids to be indoctrinated into this movement. I've got a friend in Texas split up with his wife. His wife has control of the children, and she's convinced that their 11 year old son wants to be a girl. He's a boxer. He's one of the best boxers I've ever seen.
• 21:17
  He's about as much of a boy as you could possibly get, and this man is frantic because they're going to chemically castrate this kid or surgically castrate this kid if things go to fruition. You imagine the stress on a father knowing that could happen to his son, and the law is not standing up. The politicians are not standing up. They're terrified of the gay lobby. Look, homosexuals are about 2% of the population.
• 21:49
  They're not 10% like Kinsey told us, Kinsey the socialist. They're about 2%. The radical gay movement is about 10% of the 2%, but they have more political power in this country than I would say Christians do, who are probably 40% of the population. They are one of the most powerful segments of the community because they have got everybody terrorized to oppose them. Well, we gotta call it a bluff.
• 22:22
  You know, what they're doing is evil. What they're doing is corrupt. What they're doing is child molestation on a massive scale and shame on us for allowing it to get to the stage, but it's gotta stop.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: So, Trevor, you mentioned Kinsey. Can you talk because I've I've heard his name pop up a lot. I've done a little bit of research on him. But can you just tell the audience a little bit more about Kinsey and also his ties to the communist? I think that he's a very influential person in this whole picture.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know specific ties to communists. I know he was a man of the left. There's no question about that. He pioneered these sexual studies in 1940s, and he claimed that ten percent of American men were homosexual. And he popularized this idea that we're all secretly gay, we all have these tendencies, and it's sort of very, very natural, and he sort of brought it out into the open, but his statistics were completely fraudulent.
• 23:25
  Some of his experiments were just sadistic. The man should have been arrested for child molestation, some of the things he was doing. He was inducing orgasms in young children and all sorts of things like this, way beyond any real scientific experimentation. And he popularized this myth that homosexuality was sort of normal, that it was okay. Then in 1975, the American Psychological Association was captured by a bunch of leftists, and they changed the criterion.
• 24:01
  Before that, the American Psychological Association had said, Homosexuality is a mental disease. It's an aberration. And they changed it through a political decision to say, No, it's perfectly normal. It's fine. It's acceptable.
• 24:18
  This was not based on anything scientific, it was because a bunch of radical left wing activists got themselves elected to the board and voted themselves into normality. But this is the way it works, you know, and they enforce this new agenda. And first it was all about, look, homosexuals shouldn't be persecuted. Homosexuals shouldn't be thrown in jail for their sexuality. And a lot of people would support that, you know, that's we understand that, you know, people have different variations, but it was never about that.
• 24:59
  That was just step one. It was always about getting control of the kids. It was always about weakening marriage. It was always a revolutionary process. If it had just stopped at legalization, a lot of people would have said, Fine, you've got it, do what you want in your own bedroom, we don't care, but it was never going to stop there.
• 25:23
  And it's not gonna stop until they have fully legalized pedophilia, and you cannot do a damn thing about it. You imagine, you're a parent, you've got a 12 year old boy, and you've got some 23 year old homosexual starts hanging around this boy. You won't be able to do anything about it, Because if you do, you'll be a homophobe. You will be persecuting this man because of because of his sexuality. You won't be able to protect your own children.
• 25:56
  Can you there'll be no age of consent, or it might be 11 or 10 or something. Can you imagine the horror of that for any family? Can you imagine what that's People won't wanna get married. People won't wanna have kids because they'll see what a nightmare it is. But that's what's coming.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Mean, I'm It's coming right now. My daughter's two years old right now, and I now know what it means to be a parent and have that parental instinct to protect your children. And I mean, a cat scratcher the other day, I wanted to strangle the cat. Of course, I didn't because I don't want to hurt, you know, an innocent animal.
• 26:35
  I can't imagine what I would do in that situation. I'm not a violent person. But I, you know, my mind goes to some pretty dark places when I think about what I what I would do if someone tried to harm my child like that. And, know, obviously, you know, she's she's two years old. And so we're not, you know, she's obviously she's not in daycare or going to school yet.
• 26:55
  But, like, I'll pull up a recent Fox News headline here of all these, you know, all these education you know, these teachers are pushing this. Well, here's a recent Fox News article that at least 269 k to 12 k to 12 educators arrested on child child sex crimes in the first nine months of this year. Seventy four percent of the arrests involved alleged crimes against students. So this is it's a very real issue that's happening, and there's no innocence in it. It's not about, you know, you know, pushing for acceptance.
• 27:30
  It's it's no longer about that. But, you know, when you say that, okay, the communists are behind these organizations, and I know that I've seen a lot of your documentaries and read your books and your research, and you you bring receipts, as they say. You say, okay. Well, here's this person who's at the head of this organization. Here's them.
• 27:49
  They were previously the head of this communist organization. You know, they were studying in in in the Soviet Union. You show these lines. But in terms of, like, nowadays, in 2,022, who is the one that you think is calling the shots? I mean, does this go back to China?
• 28:07
  Does this go back to the CCP? So when we see a a rise in drag queen story hour in America, do you think that that's a a decision or an order or some initiative that's being pushed out of, say, communist China?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Look, what I can say this is this, most of this comes out
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: of
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Maoism. See, the people who organized the massive gay march on Washington in 1979, well, that was one of the big seminal, that was thousands of people marched on Washington, gay rights. It was a big deal in that time. That was organized by Line of March, which was a pro Chinese communist organization. Much of the agenda we see now is coming out of groups like Liberation Road, which have a Chinese component.
• 29:01
  Their own political party is something like 40% gay. They recruit openly, deliberately recruit homosexuals to push this agenda. This is a pro Chinese communist group. Another group, Freedom Road Socialist Organization, is deliberately out there recruiting transgenders. Virtually the whole Louisiana, the whole New Orleans chapter is transgender people.
• 29:32
  So you will find, it goes across all the communist spectrum. The Trotskyists are doing this, the Maoists, because communism is like Christianity, many denominations. You have the pro Chinese Maoists, you have the Stalinist faction, the Trotskyist faction, the Social Democratic faction, the Pabloists, they all have all these different factions, but the main ones are the Maoists. The Maoists are most heavily involved in the racial politics. They gave us Black Lives Matter, and they're also most heavily involved in the gay politics.
• 30:12
  Because, see, this is the thing about Maoism. The original communist idea, which was promoted by the Soviets and the Communist Party USA, which followed the Soviet line, was the big deal is the class struggle. The workers will rise against the capitalists. But that never really fired in America because you don't have much of a class structure here like you do in Europe, or used to in You have
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a pretty happy big middle class in America.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Have a great middle class and you can start out dirt poor in America and end up filthy rich. And you can start out filthy rich and end up dirt poor too. Class structure is mobile, strong middle class. It's very hard to start a revolution in that situation. So the class struggle never really fired in America.
• 31:05
  So the left, the communist turned to gender politics and racial politics. Black Lives Matter is a Chinese operation, 100%, absolutely, run by Asians for Black Lives, which works for the Chinese Progressive Association, which works with the Chinese consulate in San Francisco. But the same people helped form ACT UP, one of the main gay rights organizations. The same Maoists were organizing the big marches on Washington. The same Maoists promoted this gin, we've all got 59 pronouns now.
• 31:44
  I first started seeing these he, her, she, her, he, him pronouns reading the Maoist literature. I think, what's this?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Really? So that was your first interaction with seeing
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a few years ago. Really? Yeah, I'd never seen it. And I'm Jim Smith, I'm with the gay task force, my pronouns are hehim, I'm Susan Jones, I'm with the Lesbian Alliance, my pronouns are sheher, I'd never seen it before. That's where I first saw it coming out of the Maoist movement.
• 32:25
  So I would say the Maoist movement is the big pusher of this movement in America, and it works for China. It propagandizes for China. It sends people to China for training. It has people living in China. They work for China, and they are pushing this agenda.
• 32:50
  I haven't seen the directive coming from Beijing say push the gay rights movement in America. They don't have to. What they do is they work on divisive issues. They work on issues of gender and race and class to some degree to split the country, and I have seen the Maoist movement most actively involved in what we now see as the LGBTQ movement. LGBTQT movement, I think it is now.
• 33:25
  And that's where I believe that the heart of it is, but it spreads out into academia. You know, the he, her pronouns and all this garbage came out of the Maoists, but pretty soon it was everywhere. Black Lives Matter came out of the Maoist movement, but pretty soon it was everywhere, because they have sympathizers and dupes in the media, they have people in academia that will pick up the signals and start promoting the same thing. See, Maoists call it mass line. Mao would come up with an idea, and everybody had to push the mass line.
• 34:03
  So the mass line is the LGBTQ movement. The mass line that came from China on COVID was, it's not China's fault. We should be grateful to China for helping solve the problem of COVID. The lockdowns, all of the lockdowns, the states with the harshest lockdowns, were all the states with the most Chinese influence, California, Hawaii, Oregon, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York, where the Chinese had the most power, the lockdowns were the harshest, because that was mass line enforcement. Now we have mass line enforcement with Black Lives Matter.
• 34:46
  If you don't support Black Lives Matter, you're a racist, okay? You had Republicans taking a knee to these people. If you don't support the LGBTQ agenda, you're a homophobe, you're a horrible person, you're intolerant, you're a hater. This is Maoist mass line enforcement. So I would have to say that most of this movement is guided and directed by the Maoist movement in The United States.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: So is this something that you see happening in China? Because I've I've got a video to show you because, you know, we we have our kids here that they're teaching gender confusion and, you know, they're they're all of a sudden, they're teaching them. Yet we have this video that came out of China recently, and this was these young I think they're probably kindergartners' age. Right? And this this person who tweeted said, be honest.
• 35:40
  Would you rather your six year old learn about BJ's trans rights and their teacher's sexual preference and pronouns or math like this? Let me play this quick video.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: So,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, which makes me think, it's like, are they are they teaching their kids this stuff? Because it looks to me like they're not there the Chinese children aren't learning common core. They're not being dumbed down. And I also see other videos of even high school aged kids learning military drills. And what do you make of the contrast here?
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, what is the aim here? See, if you're a Marxist revolutionary, everything must serve the revolution. So in China, they are getting ready for war. They're getting ready for conquest. So serving the revolution is teaching kids math and science, STEM.
• 37:10
  It is disciplining their kids. The Chinese have just said, We've gotta get rid of these pansy men. We've gotta clamp down on these effeminate men, because they want to win. So they understand that their society needs to stay together. They cannot tolerate this crazy gay stuff.
• 37:33
  They can't, because they wanna win the war. They foster it here. Like China bans drugs in China, but they're promoting fentanyl here, okay? Because fentanyl kills Americans who are never gonna serve in the US military and costs this country hundreds of millions of dollars every year. Putin, a lot of American Christians say, well, Putin's a good man because he's clamping down on the gay agenda, and you know, his family values all the way.
• 38:03
  Well, of course he is because he wants to win. He wants to keep his society safe and stable. That doesn't mean that the pro Russian communists here won't be actively promoting the gay movement. They will because the purposes are different. Russia and China wanna keep their countries smart, intelligent, well educated.
• 38:28
  They want a disciplined military machine that can conquer the world, and America, they want to rot to the core. So it's completely consistent with Marxist Leninist values to teach sound education in China, teach corrupt education here, to teach family values in China, and to promote homosexuality here. That's what a revolutionary would do, because we're the target country. Yeah. The communists don't believe any of this stuff.
• 39:00
  It is just a tool for rotting this society. Tell you what, if they have a revolutionary and they take over, they'll be lining up homosexuals and shooting them like you won't believe. They will not want them around at all because that's not what's gonna give us the new man. They are useful tools for now, and they'll be very quickly disposed of when the revolution comes.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: The true useful idiots that they've been
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: speaking. So
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: now, you know, one thing that really comes to mind in this is their ability to infiltrate really requires the control of politicians. And if you look at a lot of what we see happening, whether they're, you know, laws being put into place, even the protection given these organizations, fundraising these organizations, they have control over the politicians. And so this is something I also want to talk about your recent book because you get into this. And so of the political class, I say really the higher level political class in America, I have two questions for you. One is how many or what percentage of them do you think in some way are under under the control of the communists?
• 40:14
  And then question number two is how are they being controlled? Like, what are the levers that they have that are being used against them?
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Ratcliffe, who was Trump's intelligence advisor, said last year, two years ago, he said, The Chinese Communist Party has compromised so many American congressmen, they can now determine which legislation passes the US Congress and which doesn't.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Okay? I say it this way, my movie Enemies Within from 2016, I said there's about 100 members of the US Congress and about 25 members of the US Senate who are so enmeshed with the communists, both foreign and domestic, or radical groups, Marxist groups, they couldn't pass a background check to drive a school bus in any county in America. You're talking the chairman of every single committee in Congress right now are headed by a Marxist or a Chinese compromised individual, the same in the US Senate, the same in the US Cabinet, the same in the White House. I think right now this country's being run by Barack Obama and Susan Rice and Xi Jinping. That's who I think's running this country.
• 41:37
  So that's why we have the legislation we do. See, this is how it works. In the old days, the Soviet Union, they didn't have much money. They had to get their people through ideology. They had to go say, Look, you're a communist.
• 41:53
  You believe in the revolution. We can elect you to Congress, and you can work to disarm the US military. You can feed Us information. You can pass socialized healthcare laws. You can do all these things, and they would get a few people, right?
• 42:11
  They would get a few people. The FBI used to weed some of them out back in those days when they used to care about that sort of thing. The Chinese Communist Party has ideology. They have people on the left who are sympathetic. Many members of the US Congress and Senate are sympathetic to China, including both Mitch McConnell and the Republican Party, Dianne Feinstein and Judy Chu, and Barbara Lee and others in the Democratic Party.
• 42:38
  The Chinese Communist Party gets the left through ideology and money, and it gets the right through money. So you have a lot of Republican governors who are very cozy with China. And China is the big, it's pro Chinese, it's companies like Blackrock, for instance, who work with China, who are pushing this ESG stuff, the emotional, social governance, all this kind of stuff in the education system. So big Chinese connected companies like Nike are pushing this in the sports field, but you have at least, you have most of the Democratic Party and a reasonably big chunk of the Republican Party who are dancing to China's tune, especially people in the highest levels. You find lots of governors, lots of senators have invested in Chinese companies, have taken trips to China, following the Chinese line.
• 43:44
  So they get some of them through ideology, some of them through money, some through blackmail, some through threats. There's a whole range of ways. But I say in my new book, I profiled 30 senators in two books, and I'm saying you got at least 30 US senators are deeply invested with China, Iran, Cuba, some even with North Korea, and with the local communist movements and Islamist movements. You know, I put it out there because we wonder why we have a very conservative patriotic populace in America. You know, we believe in family values, we believe in God, we believe in the constitution, we believe in America, and we keep getting the socialist legislation pushed down our throat.
• 44:41
  When you look at it from the point of view of someone like Xi Jinping, would you wanna spend hundreds of billions of dollars fighting a trade war to destroy The US economy, which you'd probably lose? Would you wanna spend trillions of dollars fighting a military battle, a kinetic war with The United States before you were ready, or would you rather spend a billion dollars buying up American politicians and funding American communist organizations like Black Lives Matter, and the gay movement, and voter registration groups to bring America down. What would you rather do? And what would make more sense? Because the FBI's not gonna stop you.
• 45:29
  There's no background checks in Congress whatsoever. There's no security clearances, no background checks in Congress. We know many of our congressmen are compromised by the Chinese. Many more are compromised by the Iranians, which is how we got the Iran nuclear deal. Many of them work with the Islamists.
• 45:49
  Many of them are communists or work with the communists. We have a conservative patriotic populace, and we have a completely communist dominated Congress and the Senate. The Congress and the Senate right now is run by Communists. I'll give you one example in the House. You know Benny Thompson, the man who's running the January 6 hearings, right?
• 46:16
  Okay. Well, back in the '70s and '80s, he was involved in the Communist Workers' Party, Democratic Socialists America, Communist Party USA, and also with the Republic for New Africa, a black communist group that killed about 12 cops during its reign of terror. He went to Cuba in February and did a deal with Fidel Castro to bring 150 Americans to do free medical scholarships in Cuba, Seven Year courses, care of the Cuban government, many of these kids the sons and daughters of American Communist Party members. So now they're out in the communities stirring up revolution all over the country. Betty Thompson should be investigated by Homeland Security, not running it.
• 47:09
  Every major committee in the Congress is run by a Marxist now, or somebody sympathetic to Marxism. We're in a revolution, and the US Senate are the reason we have a nuclear deal with Iran, They are the reason we're no longer energy independent. They are the reason our kids are being indoctrinated in schools. They are the reason our government is being, our military's being gutted before our eyes. They are the reason our southern borders are wide open, because we have over a quarter of our Senate who couldn't pass a background check to sell you stamps at the post office.
• 47:49
  That's why I wrote the book, so people could actually understand how deeply we are penetrated, and how important the upcoming elections actually are.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you mentioned that, because that's what I want to I want to talk about is what we can do. Because I I think that for a lot of people, they see this, and it's like it's almost overwhelming. I mean, it's almost like you it's a feeling of you wake up, there's a criminal sitting in your kitchen eating your cereal for It's like that's how
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he's he's he's on your bed. He's he's he's in your shower. He's Yeah. Yeah. He's everywhere.
• 48:28
  He's he's babysitting your kids.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So do you I mean, we we've seen a lot of recent headlines about The US the the the voting software company Conic and their ties to the CCP.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: And and that's think that I believe that's just the tip of the iceberg. And I've had a lot of conversations with Greg Phillips about the research his firm has done, and every so much ties back to the CCP. So looking at where the situation is now and the amount of control that the CCP and the communists have over our country, how do we get ourselves out of this? Because I think a lot of folks that are watching, you know, these these are people that we care about our country. We're patriotic.
• 49:14
  We are going into the school boards, and we're fighting for that, but how do we get our country out of the grip of communism?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Well, interesting you mentioned Greg Phillips, because he did the film 2,000 Mules, right? Yeah. And they identified all these voter, these organizations that were working with Black Lives Matter, handing out ballots, just throwing in ballots, right? Well, I identified many of the same organizations as part of a pro Chinese voter registration network run out Asians for Black Lives, the same people who gave you Black Lives Matter, the Chinese operation. But okay, this is what we gotta do.
• 50:02
  First of all, we gotta place super importance on this upcoming election in the one after. Now, and this is what I'm totally partisan here. The Democrat party is a communist party now. There's a lot of communists or fellow travelers or globalists in the Republican party as well too, but there are at least some patriots left in the leadership of the GOP, and the grassroots of the GOP is very patriotic. We gotta make sure the Democratic Party gets destroyed in the next election.
• 50:36
  Now that's just simple. People say, Well, I don't like them. I don't trust them. They're a bunch of rhinos. The primaries are where you get to vote for the best person.
• 50:48
  The general election is where you get to vote against the communists. That's what you gotta do. We've got some great candidates out there like Cary Lake in Arizona, and we've got Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania. We've got a lot of good people coming through. A lot of good people won the primaries.
• 51:08
  We gotta make sure they get elected. I travel all over this country. I'm seeing a grassroots upsurge like I've never seen. There are millions of people now, Moms for Liberty groups, church groups, patriotic groups, thousands of young people joining the GOP. They're fired up for the country because they've been sitting home for two years reading their kids' school textbooks in horror, watching their economy shut down by the Chinese, watching their freedoms stripped away, their churches closed, Black Lives Matter rampaging through their cities, and their elections stolen.
• 51:48
  We're allowed to say election stolen on this show, are we Seth?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: No. We're still on YouTube,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: but at
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: this point, I think they
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: even know
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: what's going on. I mean, long as saying it specifically about what happened with Trump and Biden, we all know, but
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But anyway, I believe there was some shenanigans there. Oh, yeah. But but and there was certainly Chinese voter registration organizations on the ground in the in the main key states. But people are finally waking up with the fact that, yes, we could lose this country.
• 52:21
  I think they are waking up like you wouldn't believe, and this is what I say, the greatest victories come from the darkest times, because that's when good people finally get off the darn fence and do what they need to do. But I actually have a strategy for getting rid of this foreign influence after the elections, if you would like to hear what I have
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: to I'm all ears, trust me.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, actually lay it out in part two of my book Security Risk Senators. So what you need, you need a couple of things. You need a conservative president who really loves the country, like Trump rebooted, or a Ron DeSantis, or someone like that. You need a president who actually cares.
• 53:05
  Ron DeSantis has done a lot of work countering Chinese and Syrian and Iranian influence in Florida. He's got laws attacking these people. He would do that nationwide, and I think Trump would too. But this is what you do. You have a conservative president, you have a good legislature with a lot more grassroots patriots and a lot more Marjorie Taylor Greens and Lauren Bobbitts and Josh Hawley's, And then after the election, you set up a new intelligence agency, and you hit it with people who left service at the beginning of the Obama era, you know, ex CIA, ex FBI, ex Treasury, ex IRS, ex DEA.
• 53:50
  You get an elite unit, like an Attachables unit, like Elliot Ness, right? And then you bring in a whole bunch of new guys from special forces, from technical institutes, just absolutely vetted. You interview a thousand people, you pick one. You get a unit of a few hundred people, very compartmentalized, so if it ever gets penetrated, it doesn't rot the whole thing. And this organizer, I'll just call it, you know, FAI.
• 54:21
  TIA. Trevor Intelligence Well, no, we call it Foreign agents, intelligent, Foreign Agents Interception Task Forces, like Fate, you know? Just any name you can think of, right? But this is the job, I mean, is to go after foreign agents and foreign networks and the people they have compromised in this country. So you set this up really quickly, you train them, and then the president declares a three month amnesty for all foreign agents in the country.
• 54:55
  You have three months to come forward to this new agency. If you're a crooked businessman, if you are compromised, if you have been blackmailed into providing secrets to the enemy or selling blueprints, if you are just a dirty crook but you wanna come clean, if you're working with the Russian mafia, or you've got a shady deal going with an Iranian businessman, or you're working for the Chinese, you're an academic, you've got three months. You can come forward to this new agency and spill your guts. Tell them everything you know, and if you don't come forward in three months, we're coming after you, and we're gonna prosecute you, and you're gonna go to jail for thirty years in Leavenworth. Every foreign intelligence network in the country would just collapse overnight, because they wouldn't know who's taken the deal and who hasn't.
• 55:53
  Every dirty Iranian agent would be wondering if the senator he was talking to was wearing a wire. Every Chinese spy would be wondering if the congressman he'd compromised had cooperated with the new organization. They wouldn't know which members of their group had defected. You would see thousands of foreign agents leave the country within those three months. Russian mafia, Chinese businessmen, Chinese spies, Iranian agents, Cuban agents, they would leave the country.
• 56:25
  Dozens of senators and congressmen would decide to quit for family reasons. A whole bunch of academics would leave their posts. A whole bunch of leading businessmen, Wall Street titans, would resign and get lawyers, and would throw it into complete chaos. And what you would get, you would get a whole bunch of people come forward who would tell this story in court, in open court, so Americans would finally understand just how deeply this country was penetrated by the Chinese, by the Iranians, by the Cubans, and other intelligence services, and I would see that senators were involved in this. Wall Street titans, big tech operatives, academics, scientists, journalists were all involved in these networks.
• 57:24
  I think this is a very Christian approach, you see, because most people don't get involved in these networks out of pure evil. They get compromised. They get slowly drawn in. They get blackmailed or whatever. They wanna come clean, but they're trapped.
• 57:41
  So you come forward, you confess, you tell everything you know in court, you spill your guts, the American public are woken up like they've never been woken up before, and you get to live the rest of your life in repentance. You don't go to jail, you can never stand for public office again, but you get to start your life again. If you don't take that opportunity, well, we throw the book at you. You get thirty years, you get whatever penalty we can give to you, but that would completely change America. Without firing a shot, only a few people would have to go to jail, but some very senior people would, I can assure you of that, and it would clean out the foreign networks, and the public of America would finally be alerted to the problem that the media and their intelligence agencies have been hiding for decades.
• 58:41
  This would be the biggest shock and the biggest cleansing in American history. See, this is how they got the mob in New York, because, this is how Elliot Ness, he formed the Untouchables that was uncorruptible. Thomas Dewey, when he was taken on Murder, Inc. In the 1930s, he interviewed 1,200 people to get a little group of uncorruptibles that he could take down Murder Inc. With, because everybody was scared of them, and they had so many cops on their payroll, but he got this little untouchable unit and went after them.
• 59:18
  Well, this is what Giuliani did with the New York mob too, because the old mobsters, you know, they'd get caught, they'd do three years in jail. The mob would look after their family. They'd come out and go back to work. Then they started giving them thirty year jail sentences for heroin, and they had a choice. You go into witness protection, you spill your guts, tell us all the networks, you're to witness, or we give you thirty years.
• 59:49
  What are you gonna do? And a whole bunch of them flipped, and it went right up the line till you started seeing Dons go to jail. Some of the top people went to jail. It crippled the New York mafia. So this is the approach we need to get rid of the intelligence operations, the foreign involvement, the corrupt news agencies, the corrupt businessmen, give them a way up, give them amnesty, but if they don't take the amnesty, they gotta go to jail.
• 1:00:21
  We gotta see people in orange jumpsuits for very long periods of time. That would restore public confidence in the justice system. It would restore public confidence in America, and it would drive the biggest problem we have out of the country, which is foreign infiltration, infiltration by Russia, by China, by Iran, by Cuba, by Turkey, by Saudi Arabia, a whole bunch of countries. That's my strategy. It's my
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: safety
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: love it. Mean, I'd love to see them bring back public firing squad for the ones that really deserve it, because that would really leave a lesson for people.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, look, look, I'm a bit of a wimp. I don't believe in capital punishment. Personally, I'm a bit of a, you know, whatever that But absolutely, look, if the American public believe in the death penalty, there are many of these people that warrant it. There's no question, none at all. And if that's what is applied, that's what it is.
• 1:01:28
  But amnesty, give people a road out.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Give them opportunity for they clean.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: You can only be forgiven if you truly repent, if you confess everything, if you really come clean. But I think that's an elegant and a very Christian way of dealing with a very, very deep problem, a problem that's gonna destroy this country if we don't deal with it. We've gotta do it. We've gotta have the political will to do this.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: It's one of the best solutions that I've heard. And maybe we can get this video to Trump, so hopefully, whether it's Trump or dissenting, so they can watch this, maybe you might get a phone call one day saying, You know what? We're gonna have you head up the TIA, the Trevor Intelligence Agency.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I don't care who takes credit for it. Just as long as it's done, we've gotta save America, because my country depends on America. Every free country depends on America, and America's biggest problem is the US Senate, the White House, and the Congress are absolutely riddled with traitors. Riddled with traitors, straight up. There's no background checks to check them out.
• 1:02:48
  The FBI doesn't dare go after them. The media covers for them. They look after each other. They are running the henhouse. The bad guys are running the asylum.
• 1:02:59
  The madmen are running the asylum right now. That's why I wrote the book, you know? Security Risk Skeenitters, because people don't understand how deep this is. This is
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: very folks to check out your book, which so it's security risk senators. This is part one of two, which just came out from you. And because this is this is important. This is important because we have to understand who the compromised ones are, because they're, a lot of times, they're going to be, they're going to say the good things that we want to hear, but they're going to do the bad things behind closed doors. Or when it comes down to it for the vote, they're going to be voting in communism.
• 1:03:40
  So.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why we have the cover as it is. It's a guy taking an oath to the flag, and he's got his fingers crossed behind his back. Part two has a woman senator taking an oath to the flag, and she's waving a little Chinese flag behind her back. Goodness. So many of our congressmen and senators are compromised because Senate and Congress is where you can make a lot of money, and who's got a lot of money?
• 1:04:10
  Chinese have got a lot of money. Iranians will throw a lot of money around. As I said before, Xi Jinping would rather spend a billion dollars bribing American congressmen and senators than losing billions in a trade war or trillions in a shooting war before he's ready to strike.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: It just makes sense, does it not? Isn't that what you would do? Oh, is. Exactly. There's no background checks, no background checks to stop you.
• 1:04:37
  The FBI is completely compromised. They won't do anything. The FBI is not gonna arrest 50 Democratic senators or congressmen because their budget is dependent, or themselves, because their budget depends on those people are about to arrest. You imagine going to the Judiciary Committee of the Congress and saying, Jerry Nadler's on that, a Marxist, he's the head of it, right? Mr.
• 1:05:06
  Nadler, we need to investigate at least a hundred of your democratic colleagues in the house and another 25 of them in the US Senate for working for enemies of the country. Do you mind? And by the way, Mr. Nadler, you're on the list as well. Is that all right?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna happen to their budget next year? Do you think the FBI, even if they wanted to do something, do you think that's stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds them?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Of course not. Of course not.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: That's why we need another intelligence agency that's independent, that's completely loyal, that will go after Republicans, Democrats, anybody who's compromising this country, that's what we need, and we're gonna get a lot of cooperation if we give the guilty parties, at least some of them, a way out of the mess. That's what they're looking for. That's what they're looking for.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I agree. So, Trevor, we're now going to jump into our the q and a portion. Before we do, a few quick notes. One is that if you've if you're watching, if you've enjoyed this podcast, if you're listening or the show, if you're watching, please share it with at least one person. Email it to a friend.
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• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:41
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• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Right. So we're now gonna jump over to Rise TV for the q and a portion. But I wanna just, I want to highlight one question that popped up from just Vicki on YouTube. So I thought it was really good. Who said, Trevor, it's a great plan.
• 1:07:23
  It sounds solid, but unless our once great nation returns to God. That's how she, you know, so what are your thoughts on that?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Well, are fighting a spiritual war, Ryan. We're fighting, we see it play out, Republican, Democrat, constitutionalist versus communist. We see it play out in these things, but ultimately this is a spiritual war between good and evil. So it's a given. As the founding fathers said, this republic is designed for a godly people.
• 1:07:56
  It's not suitable for any other. Absolutely, I agree with that. We need a spiritual revival here. We need to fight this on every front. But I think, you know, what is honoring God?
• 1:08:09
  Honoring God is to stand in truth and courage. Stand in faith and courage. See, to save this country, we need to tell the truth. To tell the truth, we need courage. And where does courage come from?
• 1:08:25
  Courage comes from faith. That's where it comes from. Why, in the book of Revelations, who are the first people to go to hell? It's not the murderers, it's not the thieves, it's not the idolatry idolatry I can never say that word. It is the cowards.
• 1:08:44
  Right? God expects people to be brave and courageous because that shows they have faith. Cowards have no faith. That's why they are the biggest sinners, because they don't have any faith. You got faith.
• 1:09:03
  You don't fear anything. If you have your eye on eternity, why are you worried about the IRS or the Democratic Party or whatever they're gonna do to you, or not being invited to a birthday party? You got bigger things on your mind. So I think it's a given. This country needs a spiritual revival, but the proof of that will be courageous people standing up.
• 1:09:33
  That's what'll be the proof of that. When we see people standing up in faith and courage, leaders standing up in faith and courage, and it won't be many of our current leaders, it'll be the new crop that's coming through, that will be proof that people are turning to God. That will be the proof. Because if you're really turning to God, you will fear nothing from that point onwards.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I just wanna say amen to that. Alright. So folks, we're now gonna just jump over to the q and a portion on Rise TV. I hope you can join us over there.
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