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Judge Napolitano · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Plain blocked. Coming up next a guest who is having
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood tours past his house. You'll be able to tell
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  Speaker 1: which one it is. It's the inflatable of himself waving
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  Speaker 1: to everyone, right next to the inflatable Declaration of Independence.
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  Speaker 1: The judges next, Chuck Ingram on fifty five KARC the
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  Speaker 1: talk station.
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  Speaker 2: Swinging a miss from Chuck Ingram this right, Well, at
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  Speaker 2: least he gave it an effort. Judge Napolitano Special travel
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  Speaker 2: report every week from Chu Ingram as we segue into
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite times of week when we get
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  Speaker 2: to talk with Judge Napolitano and get his thoughtful analysis
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  Speaker 2: of usually things constitutional. And it looks like we're on
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  Speaker 2: that track today. Welcome back your honor. Thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for your time with my listeners and me every week.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian, it was a pleasure. No no matter
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  Speaker 3: what Ingram says, I'd like to see this inflatable not
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  Speaker 3: of myself, but of the Declaration of Independence.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be nice? Since apparently the Smithsonian is no
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  Speaker 2: longer offering pro American or American historic exhibits in the
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  Speaker 2: National History Museum in Washington, talked about that earlier. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of an undermined and I just wanted to get
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  Speaker 2: your reaction along those lines. This creeping socialism we find
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  Speaker 2: ourselves embroiled in. We have the Michigan gubernatorial candidate has
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  Speaker 2: been chosen by the voters in Michigan a one percent
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  Speaker 2: advantage Abdul l Sayad had over Haley Stevens, the traditional
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  Speaker 2: Democrat establishment back candidate. Abdul l Sayeed, he's a DSA guy. Judgment, paulatonis,
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  Speaker 2: since we're talking about the Constitution and the erosion of
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  Speaker 2: the words of the Constitution brought to us by various
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  Speaker 2: politicians over time, the DSA, based on their own platform,
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  Speaker 2: is embracing the deletion of the eradication of the Constitution
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  Speaker 2: of the United States of America, elimination of the Senate
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  Speaker 2: election of the president by the House of Representatives. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's a multitude of things that you would need to
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  Speaker 2: just eliminate the document. Are you worried that this is
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  Speaker 2: truly going to take hold the l Sai eds and
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  Speaker 2: the Zorhanman damis in our country? Is it too late
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  Speaker 2: or where are we just initial reaction.
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  Speaker 3: I am not worried about it, because the structure of
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  Speaker 3: mending the Constitution is far too cumbersome for them to
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  Speaker 3: do that. However, they do not believe in private property,
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  Speaker 3: they would seriously undermine basic American values. I guess I'm
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  Speaker 3: chickening out. I'm saying they can say whatever they want
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  Speaker 3: as long as they're not successful, but for them to
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  Speaker 3: be successful would require constitutional amendments. That's two thirds of
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  Speaker 3: the Congress and three quarters of the House of Representatives.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't see this nonsense happening in your lifetime
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  Speaker 3: or mine, but it is telling that the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 3: is suffering like this. I think we'll learn more about
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  Speaker 3: it in November. It looks like doctor l said, I
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  Speaker 3: think that's his name, is going to win and then
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  Speaker 3: he runs against a Trump loving, big government, right wing,
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  Speaker 3: neo Khan War loving or Republican in the battleground state
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  Speaker 3: of Michigan. I don't know what the outcome is going
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  Speaker 3: to be. The Republicans are rejoicing when these progressives are
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  Speaker 3: the Democratic nominees because they think that that will drive
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  Speaker 3: middle of the road of voters independence, even moderate Democrats
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  Speaker 3: away from the Democratic candidate.
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  Speaker 2: And Mike Rogers is that Michigan Republican Canada as they
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  Speaker 2: go into November. Voter turnout's important. Of course, Now the
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  Speaker 2: eradication is I like to sum up the DSA of
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  Speaker 2: the Constitution. I appreciate your point on that, because the
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  Speaker 2: Constitution itself does have rules, limitations, and mechanisms to change
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  Speaker 2: it are altered to mend it. We've been down that
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  Speaker 2: road before. But that's the rules they would have to
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  Speaker 2: play by in order to bring about the changes they want,
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  Speaker 2: and I think you're right that would be completely under successful.
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  Speaker 2: So absent revolution, they're stuck with the words. But that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we're going to take them seriously or
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  Speaker 2: read them, or abide by them. And we saw this,
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  Speaker 2: and this has been a topic. You and I have
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  Speaker 2: talked about it, and certainly the subject matter of part
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  Speaker 2: of your column which comes out tonight, the normalcy of
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  Speaker 2: American wars. Of course, we have the Declaration of War,
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  Speaker 2: which rests in the power of Congress. We have the
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  Speaker 2: War Powers Resolution, which you and I can agree is unconstitutional,
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  Speaker 2: but it's there, and we did use that back after
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  Speaker 2: these September eleventh attacks. But we also passed the Patriot Act,
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  Speaker 2: which is an erosion or deletion practically the Fourth Amendment
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  Speaker 2: of the United States. So things nefarious can come about
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  Speaker 2: by even well people who are advocating that we need
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  Speaker 2: to protect ourselves against enemies who might seek to destroy
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  Speaker 2: us by deleting the Fourth Amendment. As an example, that's
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  Speaker 2: never been tested in court, either has it.
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  Speaker 3: The Patriot Act has not been tested in court. It
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  Speaker 3: has been tested in federal district courts, where five different
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  Speaker 3: federal district courts judge who has ruled different parts of
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  Speaker 3: it unconstitutional. But the government chose not to appeal those
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  Speaker 3: decisions so as to limit them just to the geographic
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  Speaker 3: area of the jurisdiction of those courts for fear that
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  Speaker 3: the courts would be upheld. So there's no appellate there's
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  Speaker 3: no curcar court opinion on the Patriot Act. Look, my
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  Speaker 3: column with prior columns makes the argument of war leads
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  Speaker 3: to a lot of bad things domestically increase in the
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  Speaker 3: size of the federal government and decrease in civil liberties.
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  Speaker 3: The first American War. Ask this at a cocktail party.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody will get it right. They'll say, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: war of eighteen twelve. What's the first American war after
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  Speaker 3: the Revolution? Ah, it's the war against the French in
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  Speaker 3: seventeen ninety seven undeclared initiated by John Adams. And at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, the Alien and Sedition Acts, which suppressed
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  Speaker 3: free speech, was enacted World War II. Depression of the
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  Speaker 3: free speech of Italian Americans and Japanese Americans never enacted,
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  Speaker 3: approved by the Supreme Court, the nine to eleven Patriot
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  Speaker 3: Act the government can spy on you without warrants, as
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  Speaker 3: I indicated, never approved by the Supreme Court, still followed
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  Speaker 3: wildly by the Feds. So these domestic problems triggered by
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  Speaker 3: war have a way, these domestic suppressions have a way
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  Speaker 3: of staying with us. Part of the Alien and Sedition
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  Speaker 3: Acts is still law today. Really, Yeah, well, the Sedition
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  Speaker 3: part which was reincorporated in the Sedition Act of nineteen seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same statute that just re enacted at one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty years later. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and never let a good crisis go to waste, right,
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that really what this boils down to? Using the
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  Speaker 2: war as a mechanism to erode our freedoms and liberties.
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  Speaker 3: Correct? Correct, So how are liberties being eroded today? You
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  Speaker 3: go up across the street from Columbia University and stand
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  Speaker 3: on a soapbox and start preaching the fairness of a
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian state, and see what happens to you. The police
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  Speaker 3: will come and take you away, and then if you
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  Speaker 3: come back, they will take you away.
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  Speaker 2: And bring you to a jail underwall.
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  Speaker 3: We'll say that that well, that you're giving materially to
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  Speaker 3: a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 2: And it's by virtue of the declaration of them as
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  Speaker 2: a terrorist organization that they gained that ability to arrest you.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, correct?
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  Speaker 2: Is there any law?
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  Speaker 3: Stand there and read the Declaration of Independence and see
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  Speaker 3: what happens. So I don't think they'll arrest you as
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  Speaker 3: they once did. Woodrow Wilson famously arrested Princeton students for
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  Speaker 3: reading the Declaration of Independence allowed outside of Trenton, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 3: draft offices during World War One, claiming it was interfering
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  Speaker 3: with a governmental function. They were arrested but never prosecuted.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and then when it comes to declaration of war,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I can read the words, you know, Congress
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  Speaker 2: declares war or not. The president doesn't have a unilateral
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  Speaker 2: ability to do that. And yet we find ourselves and
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  Speaker 2: yet another conflict. But listen, this is not a Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump problem. This is a problem that we have in America.
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  Speaker 2: Generally speaking, Democrat presidents have done it, Republican presidents have
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  Speaker 2: done and here we go again the war. The bombs
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  Speaker 2: are dropping. The deliberative process, I think is maybe the
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  Speaker 2: reason the founders put declaration of war is the power
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  Speaker 2: of Congress holds, because maybe if we had a deliberative
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  Speaker 2: process before we made the decision to start dropping bombs
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  Speaker 2: on Iran, then we might have talked about the potential
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  Speaker 2: closure of the Straight of Horror Moves, which has been
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  Speaker 2: a looming threat that they have had in their field
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  Speaker 2: of vision now for decades. From what I've been told,
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  Speaker 2: they just never had an opportunity to actually go and
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  Speaker 2: shut down the Straight of Horror moves for fear of
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  Speaker 2: international backlash.
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  Speaker 3: How could the Pentagon not have foreseen what would happen
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  Speaker 3: in the super Highway of oil if we continued to
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  Speaker 3: bomb Iran? How could they not have foreseen that? And
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  Speaker 3: how could the Treasury Department have not told them the
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  Speaker 3: consequences to the average American consumer of the closure of.
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  Speaker 2: Hormuz Well, and the other component that was missing in
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  Speaker 2: all this is the tenacity of the Revolutionary Guard. The
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  Speaker 2: fundamentalist religious nature of their government was not likely to
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  Speaker 2: collapse when you lop the head off of it. And
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  Speaker 2: I think they thought they had another Venezuela on their hands.
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  Speaker 2: You get rid of the leader, you can topple the government.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't happen in a country like Iran, where it's
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  Speaker 2: religious fundamentalism.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, you're right. The religious fundamentalism. The five thousand year,
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  Speaker 3: five thousand years of Persian society and the traditions imbued
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  Speaker 3: in everybody in that society, from elites to a blue collar,
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  Speaker 3: uneducated people, is one of never giving in. And the
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  Speaker 3: White House maybe understands that now, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they understood it when they allowed Benjamin Nettignahoo to talk
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump into starting this war back in June, more
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  Speaker 3: than a year ago. Thirteen days in June forty or
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  Speaker 3: fifty days in February, March, and April, and now on again,
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  Speaker 3: off again, on again, off again in the summer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: none of their objectives has been achieved. Rampant inflation in
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  Speaker 3: the United States, no ability to get oil into or
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  Speaker 3: out of.
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  Speaker 2: Hormuz, and a concern over the depletion of our military hardware.
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  Speaker 2: For times when we may need it down the road
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  Speaker 2: complications which again any deliberative process may have been highlighted,
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  Speaker 2: but fundamentally the words mean what they say, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: with you on that particular issue. Dog Judge Edmenapolitano. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think this we should be their absent declaration of
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  Speaker 2: war or at least the exercise the author to use
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  Speaker 2: the military force. They at least passed one of those.
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  Speaker 2: After nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: They debated, it debated, they passed it. I didn't like
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  Speaker 3: the wording because it lasted for twenty five years. However,
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  Speaker 3: it did legally authorize the Bush administration to commence, you know,
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  Speaker 3: two fruitless wars, Iraq and Afghanistan. Jeez, how did we
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  Speaker 3: end up with in Afghanistan? Did we get rid of
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  Speaker 3: the Taliban or did they come back?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sarcastic, I know you are. And that's a great
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  Speaker 2: illustration of how difficult it is to fight off religious
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  Speaker 2: fundamentalists with AK forty seven's hiding out in mountains when
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  Speaker 2: you've got the largest military on the planet falling on
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  Speaker 2: the heels of the second largest military in the planet
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  Speaker 2: giving it a shot for about a decade the Soviet
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  Speaker 2: Union before pulling the plug right.
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  Speaker 3: We should have learned the lesson at the Soviet Union's expense.
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  Speaker 2: We did not judge Edna Polatina judging Freedom's podcast is all.
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  Speaker 2: He's having the segment on finding out who you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking to today and who might that be to.
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  Speaker 3: I have Colonel Douglas McGregor at two point fifteen and
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  Speaker 3: Bill Geraldi, the ex CIA agent at three o'clock. They're
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  Speaker 3: both superstars. McGregor was once in the Trump administration, but
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  Speaker 3: they didn't like his anti war views.
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  Speaker 2: About that, Judge initapaulla Tita, we'll do this again next Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: I always enjoy it. Have a wonderful week between now
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  Speaker 2: and then. My friend back at you, and my best
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  Speaker 2: to Ingram.
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  Speaker 3: No matter what he says.
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  Speaker 2: I always passed the log, Sir, I really do take
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  Speaker 2: care Oka away. We're gonna give some love