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Speaker 1: Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde, and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast the Hoo are you Hoo hoo
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Speaker 1: hoo hoo admission as we take a look at the
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Speaker 1: biggest plunge the Bengals have ever taken in free agency,
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Speaker 1: one that's caused many Bengals fans to excitedly ask, who
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Speaker 1: are these guys coming up? I'll spend forty five minutes
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Speaker 1: with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham as we discuss DJ
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Speaker 1: reader Trey Waynes, Von Bell and the other free agent pickups,
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Speaker 1: and then take your questions under the hashtag ask lap
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Speaker 1: and Yes, in case you're wondering, Joe Burrow does come up.
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Speaker 1: Dave Lapham Lap. As we sit down to do this recording,
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Speaker 1: the Bengals have spent approximately one hundred and thirty five
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Speaker 1: million dollars on free agents from other teams. What has
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Speaker 1: gotten into our beloved Cincinnati bengk I'll tell you Dan,
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Speaker 1: it's incredible. I mean, the overhaul continues. Uh. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think there's potentially five defensive starters in that in
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Speaker 1: that group, and obviously an offensive lineman that is going
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Speaker 1: to be a starter at the at the right guard position. Tentatively,
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Speaker 1: you know, you got to you got a starting cornerback
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Speaker 1: in Wayne's you have a starting Nicol Corner and Alexander Um.
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Speaker 1: I think Dray Kirkpatrick's future is dim in Cincinnati. I
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Speaker 1: don't I think it's going to be short lived. Um
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Speaker 1: William Jackson, I believe would be the other the other corner.
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Speaker 1: It's it's incredible vom Bell, who has made a lot
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Speaker 1: of plays in New Orleans Saints. I mean, he's a
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Speaker 1: he's a quality safety and he played well up in
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Speaker 1: Ohio State room with the road and all about. You
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Speaker 1: know his his contributions. DJ Reader is a high level
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Speaker 1: starter in the interior of the defensive line. You know,
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Speaker 1: I know, I know a lot of people are going
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Speaker 1: to be well, the only linebacker is Josh bynes Well.
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Speaker 1: You know. The thing is simple math. When you look
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Speaker 1: at the linebacker position in free agency, it wasn't as
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Speaker 1: deep as the draft is potentially. When you look at
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Speaker 1: the sheer numbers, almost every package three or four or
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Speaker 1: five defensive linemen, four or five, six defensive backs, most
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Speaker 1: times two linebackers. So sheer numbers say that if you've
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Speaker 1: got a prospect that you can upgrade in the defensive
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Speaker 1: liner on the back end where there are more players
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Speaker 1: on the field, go for it. Go for it. And
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Speaker 1: I do think that the drafted linebackers deep enough where
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Speaker 1: they can make us make some serious noise. I harked
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Speaker 1: back to at the turn of the century, nearly two thousands,
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Speaker 1: when you draft h Spikes, Brian Simmons both in the
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Speaker 1: first round, and Steve Foley, and the third round you
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Speaker 1: drew and Ross as a free agent. They redid their
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Speaker 1: whole linebacker position that year, and the coach was Mark Duffner,
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Speaker 1: who's now on the staff. So lightning can strike twice
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Speaker 1: with jeff Nor on the staff in terms of rebuilding
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Speaker 1: that linebacker core. A lot of it through the draft lap.
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Speaker 1: I want to go back to DJ Reader, probably the
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Speaker 1: most prized of the free agents. Four years, fifty three
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Speaker 1: million bucks. He's twenty five years old right now. He'll
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Speaker 1: be twenty six by the start of next season. I
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Speaker 1: went back to my old notes on the Houston Texans
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Speaker 1: and the last time that the Bengals played them, and
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Speaker 1: at the time I had written down based on something
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Speaker 1: that I heard or something that I read, that he
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Speaker 1: was like a young Vince Wilfork, which is basically the
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Speaker 1: guy he replaced in Houston. Is that a good comp
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Speaker 1: Is he potentially that good? Yeah? I think he is.
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Speaker 1: I think he's even maybe not quite as you know,
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Speaker 1: massive as Wilford as he was. I mean, this guy's
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Speaker 1: a big dude. I mean over three undred and fifty
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Speaker 1: pounds on a six foot three inch frame. That's that's
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Speaker 1: fairly massive. Wilfork as a house. But I think this
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Speaker 1: guy's more athletic in terms of his ability to pursue
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Speaker 1: inside out. I mean he'll watching him, he'll run from
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Speaker 1: the nose, tackle to the sideline and get involved in
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Speaker 1: a play, and very athletic. Like Wilfork was very agile
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Speaker 1: with his feet. It was hard to get that big
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Speaker 1: old bear on the ground. I mean he was very,
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Speaker 1: very difficult to get off his feet. And Readers that
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Speaker 1: that kind of guy too. And another similarity they have,
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Speaker 1: Dan to the point you're making, and it's a good point,
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of similarities is the ability to
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Speaker 1: push the pocket and to penetrate inside. You know, if
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Speaker 1: you if you single up on on a guy like
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Speaker 1: these guys, it's, uh, that's tough chore. I mean, somebody's
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Speaker 1: gonna have a long day, so he's gonna he's gonna
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Speaker 1: consume a couple of offensive linemen. And you know, now, okay,
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Speaker 1: do you a double reader? Do you double gino? You
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Speaker 1: can't double everybody who you're gonna double, So you know
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Speaker 1: it could help Gino and um the staffs that he's
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Speaker 1: on the field. It could lessen the load a little bit.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I know they're gonna be cognizant of
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Speaker 1: not him taking as many staffs as he did last
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Speaker 1: year and not having we're down like he did to
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Speaker 1: at the end of the last year. So I think
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Speaker 1: he's a big plus in so many ways. There's a
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Speaker 1: big ripple effect with Reader for sure. Since we've been
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Speaker 1: doing the games together in twenty eleven, the Bengals have
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Speaker 1: always prioritized two things on defense and trying to build
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Speaker 1: their team pass rushers and cover guys. We've seen the
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Speaker 1: money they've spent on Gino and Carlos Dunlap. We've seen
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Speaker 1: all the number one picks over the years on cornerbacks
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Speaker 1: in particular, So this really to me reflects what they
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Speaker 1: did in free agency. DJ Reader a great run stopper obviously,
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Speaker 1: but as you mentioned, a guy that can push the
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Speaker 1: pocket as a pass rusher, and then Waynes Alexander von
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Speaker 1: Bell plus Lashawn Simms from Tennessee who played on a
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Speaker 1: very good team last year. That shows you when they
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Speaker 1: looked at their struggles defensively over the past several seasons.
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Speaker 1: To me, at least, they went back to their core
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Speaker 1: values pass, rush, cover guys. I couldn't agree with you
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Speaker 1: more and the other caveat. I think to all these guys,
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Speaker 1: they played on recent playoff teams, So all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: you bring that, uh, that successful mindset, that culture to
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Speaker 1: your locker room where you know, hey, I know what
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. I was just in the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: and you know, here's here's here's what we need to
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Speaker 1: get done. Guys. Here's here's what I experienced. Here's where
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Speaker 1: we're a little deficient, Here's where we're okay, here's where
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Speaker 1: we need to improve. I mean, all those things I
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Speaker 1: think are valuable. And just about every free agent they signed,
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Speaker 1: you know, has been on the in the playoffs recently,
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Speaker 1: which I think is uh, it is not by accident.
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Speaker 1: I think you know that that's if there's by accident,
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Speaker 1: it's a very fortunate accident. They're going after guys that
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Speaker 1: I think have been on on football teams that have
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Speaker 1: experienced success and have you know, have have lifted, have
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Speaker 1: lifted firsthand, so they can they can bring it to
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Speaker 1: this locker room. And you know usually with that kind
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Speaker 1: of success, Um, it breads a good chemistry in a
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Speaker 1: locker room. And uh, reader, it's interesting easan Um. They're
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Speaker 1: both clums and graduates, and Easton knows readers parents. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he knows the whole family. It's it's it's crazy. You know,
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Speaker 1: you'll you'll get connections, uh that that with coach or
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Speaker 1: player or former teammates, you know, talking about the other players. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's very interesting. There's there's no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: The last corner that they just sounded them trying to
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Speaker 1: think of Simms. Sims. Yeah, Leshawn Simms. His position coach
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Speaker 1: is now with the Cincinnati Bengals, So, I mean they
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Speaker 1: pick him up from Tennessee, another playoff team. So here's
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Speaker 1: Leshawn Simms, you know who's experienced the playoff success down
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Speaker 1: to Tennessee and they're you know, they like him, They
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Speaker 1: like him a lot, and he can he can play
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Speaker 1: on special teams as well. And this position coach, uh
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Speaker 1: you know, is now now with the Cincinnati Bengals. So
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Speaker 1: you have an obvious connection to Steve Jackson. You know,
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Speaker 1: liked him a lot when he's down there in Tennessee
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Speaker 1: and Leshawn Simms von Bell the connection up at you know,
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Speaker 1: up in a high state. He's got teammates, uh that
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Speaker 1: that are with the Cincinnati Bengals obviously in Sam Hubbard
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Speaker 1: and Billy Price, and so it's it is, it's it's uh,
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Speaker 1: it's very interesting, how you know, the thread is very
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Speaker 1: very wolving, very very tightly through the National Football League
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Speaker 1: A lot of times. Is Xavier sewer Feelo a significant
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Speaker 1: upgrade from John Miller? I'm not sure, you know, Um,
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Speaker 1: I thought John Miller was a pretty solid player. But
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Speaker 1: John Miller, um, you know, obviously had had an injury problem.
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Speaker 1: And looking at John the difference between those two guys.
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Speaker 1: John Miller to me is a beefed up three ten
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Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, Xavier's a natural three ten.
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Speaker 1: He's a bigger frame, bigger body guy. Um, John Miller
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Speaker 1: is pretty athletic guy, but so Zoe Xavier he can pull,
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Speaker 1: you know. Obviously, the Bengals the second half the year,
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Speaker 1: as we saw down in the running game improved so
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Speaker 1: much that they went to that gap, you know, pin
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Speaker 1: and poll schematic and having big boys out in space
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Speaker 1: leading Joe Mixon and Xavier can do that. He came
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Speaker 1: out as a second round pick out of UCLA initially Houston,
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Speaker 1: so there's another tie. He and DJ Reader or Team
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Speaker 1: Bates at Houston before he went over to Dallas, So
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Speaker 1: the weave continues. Linebacker Josh Bines will be thirty one
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Speaker 1: next year. He played pretty well down the stretch for
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Speaker 1: the Ravens last year and going back several years, he
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Speaker 1: made the tackle on Ted Gin to seal the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl went over the forty nine ers several years ago.
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Speaker 1: Is he more or less a depth guy in a
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Speaker 1: group that didn't have much depth at all, or potentially
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Speaker 1: a solid starter in the short term. Yeah. They did
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Speaker 1: sign him to, you know, just a one year contract.
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Speaker 1: He's thirty years old. You know, he's on the back
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Speaker 1: nine obviously his career. But he run on that Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl team as you mentioned with the Ravens, and then
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Speaker 1: they brought him off the street last year as we remember,
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Speaker 1: and you know, he plucked them in and they had
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Speaker 1: a couple of inside linebackers and Ravens defense they brought
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Speaker 1: off the street to finish the season. They played pretty
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Speaker 1: well and he and Josh was one of them. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Josh Bynes, I think has you know, has something left
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Speaker 1: from the tank and you need you need an alpha dog.
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Speaker 1: Um this this group is pretty young at the linebacker position. Now,
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Speaker 1: There's there's no question about it. He's he's steady, he's
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Speaker 1: very instinctive, a smart guy. He knows how to play
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Speaker 1: to his strengths and and you know, to hide some
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Speaker 1: of these deficiencies as such. I you know, I think
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Speaker 1: that he's going to be the leader that everybody looks
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Speaker 1: to in that linebacker room because once again played in
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and um, you know, played at the
11:45
Speaker 1: at the highest level you possibly can and it's a
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Speaker 1: big achievement. You get some credit, instantaneous credit with that.
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Speaker 1: There's there's no no doubt about it. So I think
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Speaker 1: I think it is a good edition. I think he's
11:57
Speaker 1: gonna play pretty well. I think he's gonna really make
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Speaker 1: a rush to be a starting inside linebacker, you know,
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Speaker 1: for for at least the season, and with that one
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Speaker 1: year contract, there's high incentive for him to play well
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Speaker 1: and to see if he can get a bite of
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Speaker 1: an apple, a little bigger bite than just that that
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Speaker 1: one year. It's kind of like a show me something
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Speaker 1: type contract. And he's anxious. I think to prove that
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Speaker 1: that very thing. I do think they need to find
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Speaker 1: you know, they will in the draft, but they're they're
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Speaker 1: probably the biggest the trace to see now with Nick
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Speaker 1: Vigil you know, going to San Diego or the lah Chargers.
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Speaker 1: They got to get that Sam backer, you know, they
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Speaker 1: have to. They have to find somebody there, some sort
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Speaker 1: of edge guy, you know, that can provide some some
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Speaker 1: kind of pass rush as well as at the edge
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Speaker 1: in the running game. I think that's a that's a
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Speaker 1: big factor that they have to find, you know, in
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Speaker 1: the draft. And it would not I would not be
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Speaker 1: the least bit upset Dan if the second and third round,
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Speaker 1: if there were guys there that were worthy that they
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Speaker 1: spent both of them the linebacker position, kind of like
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Speaker 1: they did in the first round with Spikes and Simmons.
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Speaker 1: Then they came back in the third round here again
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Speaker 1: with Foldy. I'm not saying spend all your picks on linebackers.
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Speaker 1: I do think in my mind the two areas that
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Speaker 1: I really focus on in the draft would be linebacker
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Speaker 1: an offensive line. You know, to just add bodies to
13:11
Speaker 1: compete and see who best man win kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: And you know it's so deep at wide receiver at
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Speaker 1: some point there's probably gonna be a wide receiver there
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Speaker 1: that it's like, oh, hell, I didn't think this guy
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Speaker 1: would be here at this point. We had him with
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Speaker 1: a grade around maybe two rounds higher. So you're gonna
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Speaker 1: grab that wide receiver. But I think all things being equal,
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Speaker 1: i'd really look for, you know, linebacker heavy in the
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Speaker 1: draft and an offensive line. What do you think happens
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Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton at this point? That's a that's a
13:39
Speaker 1: great question. Um. You know, the thing the thing with
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Speaker 1: Andy is he's got playoff experience. And the other thing
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Speaker 1: is he went through this as a rookie. Thinking back
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Speaker 1: to twenty eleven, there are no OTAs, no mini camps,
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Speaker 1: and j Gruden, diet hell of a job with Andy
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Speaker 1: Dalton and Andrew Worth and dolmatop Peco. Remember they had
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Speaker 1: those voluntary workouts to get togethers. And Andy Dalton didn't
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Speaker 1: know what he didn't know in terms of the Bengal system.
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Speaker 1: And I mean to have him get up to speed
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Speaker 1: as quickly as he did that year and this year.
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Speaker 1: It's not a work stop. It's a medical issue that
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Speaker 1: is causing maybe a delay in the systems and installation
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Speaker 1: of things with young quarterbacks. Andy Dalton he learned to
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Speaker 1: quickly proof that he could learn it quickly, and I
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Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow could prove the same thing. But Andy
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Speaker 1: Dalton already knows it. So the fact that you're in
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Speaker 1: a situation so odd this year because of the coronavirus,
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Speaker 1: you do have a guy that knows your system cold
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Speaker 1: and worst case scenario, could go out there and perform
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Speaker 1: for you, you know. And I think the Bengal is
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Speaker 1: gonna be very very patient with this. I know the
14:54
Speaker 1: knowing of Patriots are going to be. They have a
14:56
Speaker 1: history of being patient. They're gonna try to get as
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Speaker 1: good a deal as possible if they're if they're truly
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Speaker 1: interested in Andy Dalton. And by the way, where is
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Speaker 1: Jay Gruden Jacksonville Jacksonville offensive coordinator? Maybe he says, all right, okay, minshew, Yeah, Well,
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Speaker 1: I know Andy Dalton. Like Andy Dalton didn't work out
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Speaker 1: in Chicago, where one of his offensive former offensive coordinators
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Speaker 1: resides now, but there's another one that's former offensive coordinator,
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Speaker 1: former head coach now down there in Jacksonville. So to me,
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Speaker 1: I think you have to be patient, you know, get
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Speaker 1: through the draft with the late reporting that's going on,
15:35
Speaker 1: the fact that he knows the system so well, you know,
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Speaker 1: just the word. I don't think the worst thing in
15:41
Speaker 1: the world would be if they keep him and have
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Speaker 1: a hell of a one two punch of the quarterback position.
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Speaker 1: Hell with the way the first round picks have gone
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Speaker 1: in the last four or five years, Man, I got you.
15:51
Speaker 1: Don't you want to just say about eighteen thousand hail marriage,
15:54
Speaker 1: nothing happens to Joe Burrow. But what if it does?
15:57
Speaker 1: Then you got Andy Dalton. You know, I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: they would necessarily. I guess they could with all that
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Speaker 1: they've spent here in free agency. They may have to
16:06
Speaker 1: trend that seventeen million dollar contract down a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But Andy may say, rather than getting waived, if if
16:12
Speaker 1: you're if your Bengals terminate him, somebody's got to pick
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Speaker 1: in their a pain of seventeen million. So he may say,
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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna pick me up and give me a haircut
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Speaker 1: to be a backup. Why don't I stand in Cincinnati,
16:22
Speaker 1: see if my haircut's not as bad. You'd be a
16:24
Speaker 1: back cup, back up for a year and play that,
16:26
Speaker 1: you know, maybe take a little bit of a haircut
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Speaker 1: in the contract and play out that year. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I just think there's all kinds of possibilities on the table,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think i'd be in a rush right now. Tom.
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Speaker 1: You know, I certainly wouldn't panic and wave him at
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Speaker 1: this point in time, that's sure. The Jacksonville thing is interesting.
16:43
Speaker 1: They've already signed Tyler Eifford and dark Quist and Art,
16:45
Speaker 1: so that's becoming Cincinnati's South. But but if it reaches
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Speaker 1: a point where they're not going to pay him seventeen mil,
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Speaker 1: and that seems far fetched me considering how much money
16:56
Speaker 1: they've taken on in free agency, plus the tag with
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Speaker 1: aj Green. So if they try to get him conceivably
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Speaker 1: to stick around for less, I wonder at that point
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Speaker 1: if he'll say, you know what, I don't care about
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Speaker 1: the money. I'm going to go to the team where
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Speaker 1: I think I've got the best chance to play. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And uh, I think I mean, honestly, if I'm Andy
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Speaker 1: Dalton and I feel that Bill Belichick has some sort
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Speaker 1: of an honest interest, and I think he does. I
17:28
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick feels like Andy Dalton can win you
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Speaker 1: football games at the quarterback position. And uh and more importantly,
17:35
Speaker 1: won't necessarily lose you football games give games away at
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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. If he feels that way in any
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Speaker 1: and these people in any feel that that's that is
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Speaker 1: the case, I do everything I possibly could to see
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Speaker 1: how that could be fulfilled. I mean, you know you
17:52
Speaker 1: and and honestly, I think, as we know, the Bengals
17:56
Speaker 1: are vocalized that a bunch of times, and I know
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Speaker 1: we both believe it. They definitely appreciate everything they aid
18:03
Speaker 1: the Dalton has done for the organization and how he's
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Speaker 1: done it. Um So I think that if they could,
18:10
Speaker 1: they would make it very fair and equitable for Andy
18:13
Speaker 1: Dalton at all costs. Yeah, Andy Dalton is better than
18:17
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. We don't know how good Jared Stidham is.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he's going to be good, who knows. But I
18:24
Speaker 1: think despite what the Patriots have done with Brian Hoyer,
18:27
Speaker 1: if they could get Andy Dalton on the cheap, I
18:29
Speaker 1: think they would. And I think I think that that
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Speaker 1: if in fact, somebody could get him, you know, as
18:36
Speaker 1: you say, on the cheap. And Okay, Jacksonville, in my mind,
18:41
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, Bill Belichick really wants them. Jake Rudin
18:45
Speaker 1: really wants them. Okay, then if they if they say
18:48
Speaker 1: it's gonna Bill Belichick really wants them and said, I'll
18:51
Speaker 1: just wait till they wave him. Well, Jackson is going
18:53
Speaker 1: to get him before the Patriots. So at that point
18:55
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick may say, I'll give you a pick, you know,
18:58
Speaker 1: to make sure that I can get him before you
19:01
Speaker 1: wave them. Um, you know that that could possibly happen,
19:04
Speaker 1: and then and then he'd we do the contract extended.
19:06
Speaker 1: Whatever he's gonna do. But it's going to be interesting
19:09
Speaker 1: how it plays out. But I wouldn't be in a
19:12
Speaker 1: rush as long as there's more than one interested party.
19:17
Speaker 1: You know, at that point in time, you know, you
19:19
Speaker 1: might say, look, we we are going to wave him, Bill,
19:22
Speaker 1: and if we waive him, you're not going to get
19:24
Speaker 1: him because we know Jake Gruden has an extreme interest
19:27
Speaker 1: in him. He's not going to make it. U spark
19:30
Speaker 1: down on the waiver claims as an only Patriots, Another
19:33
Speaker 1: team besides Jake Gruden and the Jaguars could all claim
19:37
Speaker 1: before he gets in the Patriots as well. I think
19:39
Speaker 1: if he is terminated, I think there would be I
19:42
Speaker 1: think a lot of a lot of teams in the
19:44
Speaker 1: National Football League look at Andy Dalton as a starting
19:47
Speaker 1: quarterback that one football games with. But right now he's
19:50
Speaker 1: under contract for seventeen point five million bucks. Yeah, that's
19:55
Speaker 1: a lot for a team that is thinking of him
19:58
Speaker 1: as all right, he could be a great bat up,
20:00
Speaker 1: somebody that we could plug in with no hesitation and
20:03
Speaker 1: know that we could win games with him if we
20:05
Speaker 1: had to. But that's a lot of dough for that guy,
20:09
Speaker 1: including the Bengals, you know, Like I said, I mean,
20:12
Speaker 1: he knows their system, they know what he's about, and
20:15
Speaker 1: he would obviously. The toughest place to do something like
20:19
Speaker 1: that is a place where he wants to start or
20:21
Speaker 1: went to five straight playoffs. That's a tough that's a
20:25
Speaker 1: very very tough shot to your ego, and it's much
20:29
Speaker 1: easier to do it somewhere else where you don't have
20:31
Speaker 1: a history already established, you know, I mean, all these
20:34
Speaker 1: guys have a pride. Andy Dalton is a prideful guy.
20:37
Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily want to acquiesce and you know, say,
20:40
Speaker 1: I know my mind and my heart, I know I'm
20:43
Speaker 1: still starting quarterback in the NFL. I don't want to
20:46
Speaker 1: be a backup quarterback to the place where I had
20:49
Speaker 1: my first you know, my first seventy six games. I
20:52
Speaker 1: was fifty twenty five and one and went to five
20:55
Speaker 1: straight playoffs. And now in the backup when I know
20:59
Speaker 1: I've got your left in my career as a potential star,
21:02
Speaker 1: that's a tough pill to swallow, and you know, and
21:04
Speaker 1: a lot of times, I mean, look look at Cam Newton.
21:07
Speaker 1: Look how Cam Newton reacted with the Carolina Panthers. Now,
21:11
Speaker 1: the Panthers obviously teased him a lot worse than the
21:13
Speaker 1: Bengals ever think about treating Andy Dalton. I think Carolina Panthers,
21:17
Speaker 1: you know, I think they could have let him go
21:19
Speaker 1: a lot earlier. He could have had other opportunities. I
21:22
Speaker 1: think he's pretty upset about it. But that whole thing
21:24
Speaker 1: I think was mishandled. And that's the last thing in
21:27
Speaker 1: the world I think the Cincinnati Bengals weren't do is
21:29
Speaker 1: mishandled anything with respecting Andy Dalton. All right, let's open
21:34
Speaker 1: this up to Bengals fans. I have a bunch of
21:36
Speaker 1: questions using the hashtag ask Lap on Twitter. Are you ready?
21:42
Speaker 1: Let's do it? All right? First question comes from Alex
21:46
Speaker 1: Do you think the Bengals splurge in free agency was
21:49
Speaker 1: a reaction to the media slash former players dragging them
21:53
Speaker 1: through the mud, or a reflection of change within the organization. Yeah,
21:59
Speaker 1: I mean I do think that, Um, the first year
22:03
Speaker 1: that Zach was running as a head coach, his coaching
22:07
Speaker 1: staff was assembled so late that I think that they just,
22:12
Speaker 1: you know, weren't ready to hit the ground running is
22:15
Speaker 1: as rapidly as they are listener. And I think that
22:19
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a factor. Um. I mean,
22:21
Speaker 1: you had guys that were signed, signed to the coaching
22:25
Speaker 1: staff and immediately trying to catch up evaluating their own
22:28
Speaker 1: players and trying to catch up on evaluation as of
22:31
Speaker 1: other free agents. I mean that was you know, compressing
22:35
Speaker 1: months of work into into weeks and days. And I
22:38
Speaker 1: think I think that was a difficult time, a difficult
22:41
Speaker 1: thing to do. I think that the that the machine
22:44
Speaker 1: is so uh differently oil so much oil, so much
22:49
Speaker 1: better you know this year, Um, that that I think
22:52
Speaker 1: that that's been a big factor. And I do think
22:55
Speaker 1: that the organization realizes after going two and fourteen that
22:58
Speaker 1: you're going to have to make make a lot of
23:00
Speaker 1: a lot of moves, a lot of decisions. But it
23:02
Speaker 1: just wasn't good enough. Players weren't good enough. The overhaul
23:05
Speaker 1: of the defense is remarkable. Like we said, five, you know,
23:09
Speaker 1: five potentially five defensive starters in free agency, not not
23:14
Speaker 1: counting the draft, and in one offensively. So you know,
23:17
Speaker 1: when you're when you're signing guys, uh, and you're signing
23:20
Speaker 1: guys that you think you're gonna make major contributions. And
23:23
Speaker 1: I think the facelift is extreme. Uh, this this football
23:26
Speaker 1: team is gonna look at hell of a lot different
23:28
Speaker 1: than at the conclusion of last year. I mean when
23:31
Speaker 1: you like, you know, we've we've already talked about the
23:33
Speaker 1: guys that aren't going to be around Dinard Eifford Um,
23:37
Speaker 1: the visual billing, scheduling. I mean, it's you know, it's
23:40
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good number. So guys are guys
23:43
Speaker 1: that have been moved on, some their choice, some others
23:47
Speaker 1: b W. Webb has moved on as well. Uh, it's
23:50
Speaker 1: they've definitely definitely overhauled it. And I think there's there's
23:54
Speaker 1: a myriad of reasons. I think the staff is is
23:59
Speaker 1: is uh working in concert better than than put together
24:03
Speaker 1: so late last year. And I think the organization is
24:06
Speaker 1: saying we got to do some things. Next question comes
24:10
Speaker 1: from Ronald. Is Sean Williams moving to linebacker after the
24:14
Speaker 1: Von Bell signing? Yeah, they played a lot of three
24:17
Speaker 1: safety packages last year and uh, you know Feglam was
24:21
Speaker 1: the third safety and now in my mind, Von Bell,
24:26
Speaker 1: Uh it is gonna Von Bell and Jesse Bates will
24:29
Speaker 1: be the primary guys. Uh. I'll tell you what, Sean
24:33
Speaker 1: Williams loved the guy. It played tough, tough, soign of
24:37
Speaker 1: a gun played hurt, I mean hurt badly. Leg injuries
24:41
Speaker 1: when you're when you when you're playing on the back
24:44
Speaker 1: end and you're you know, dragging a leg. Tough thing
24:48
Speaker 1: to do. But he did it. And it just goes
24:50
Speaker 1: to tell you if they didn't have anybody else they
24:53
Speaker 1: could throw in there where they were on the back end.
24:56
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think Sean Williams can can be
24:59
Speaker 1: that you know, that time sub package linebacker type guy
25:04
Speaker 1: and do it very well. Now, the thing is that
25:07
Speaker 1: this is the last year of his contract and it's
25:09
Speaker 1: a five million dollar contract, So now you have to
25:13
Speaker 1: think a little bit, all right, can we will he agree?
25:16
Speaker 1: Can we talk about a new contract that maybe uh
25:19
Speaker 1: you know, isn't isn't quite as prohibitive in terms of
25:21
Speaker 1: dollars this year. If that role is going to change
25:24
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe stay for a longer period of time,
25:26
Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me if they asked him to come
25:30
Speaker 1: to the table. And if in fact that doesn't occur,
25:33
Speaker 1: now they have to make it. Make a tough decision
25:35
Speaker 1: with respect to Sean Williams, because he's he's liked by
25:40
Speaker 1: his teammates and liked and respected by his teammates, his coaches.
25:44
Speaker 1: I mean, he's all about football. Football is very important
25:48
Speaker 1: to this guy, and you know, you like guys like
25:51
Speaker 1: that in your locker room. But I think he's gonna
25:53
Speaker 1: have a different role for sure. All Right, similar questions
25:57
Speaker 1: from Cullen and Steven. I'm going to specifically read what
26:01
Speaker 1: Cullen wrote. He said with the Bengals saying they plan
26:04
Speaker 1: to keep Drey and with all of the signings they've
26:07
Speaker 1: made in the secondary, does this point to them looking
26:10
Speaker 1: to move Will Jackson or does it point to them
26:14
Speaker 1: running more Nickel or maybe moving a safety to linebacker.
26:17
Speaker 1: And then Stephen basically was wondering if will was going
26:20
Speaker 1: to be traded. Let me backtrack to the beginning of
26:22
Speaker 1: what Cullen said he started out by writing with the
26:25
Speaker 1: Bengals saying they plan to keep Drey. They haven't said
26:29
Speaker 1: that as far as I know. I know Jeff Hobson
26:32
Speaker 1: has written that it's possible and until they do something,
26:36
Speaker 1: it's certainly possible. Paul Dayner Junior from the Athletic has
26:39
Speaker 1: more or less said there's no way they're going to
26:42
Speaker 1: keep Dre, not with two years and more than nineteen
26:45
Speaker 1: mill left on the deal. So let's talk about those
26:49
Speaker 1: two things separately. Number one, in your mind, any chance
26:52
Speaker 1: that Drey is back? And number two, any chance that
26:56
Speaker 1: Will Jackson gets dealt. I think the only way Dray
27:00
Speaker 1: Kirkpatrick is back is if he agrees to come to
27:04
Speaker 1: the table and doesn't take a hair Kurt, he agrees
27:06
Speaker 1: to shave his head. I mean, they're gonna have it's
27:10
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a hell of a lot less
27:12
Speaker 1: than that ten million that he's you know, come to
27:14
Speaker 1: it the cap. I think it is this year, um
27:17
Speaker 1: Will Jackson. I think I think in my mind the
27:20
Speaker 1: guy that's more vulnerable UH is Dray Kirkpatrick and Will Jackson.
27:25
Speaker 1: I do think that you know that they still value uh.
27:30
Speaker 1: Will Jackson's abilities at this stage a little bit higher
27:33
Speaker 1: than Drey's, and both of them had their injury issues.
27:36
Speaker 1: I mean, both of us their share of time, but
27:39
Speaker 1: will Will has been a little bit more durable you
27:42
Speaker 1: know lately. Um so, I yeah, I do believe that
27:45
Speaker 1: that Drey is probably the more vulnerable of the two.
27:49
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know what kind of trademarket the'd
27:52
Speaker 1: be out there, um, you know, for for you either one.
27:55
Speaker 1: I think teams once, once, teams around the league start
27:58
Speaker 1: to see what you've done and how that affects other players.
28:02
Speaker 1: Like we talked about, it's like they're not going to shoot.
28:05
Speaker 1: Like the Andy Dalvon situation, a team trades for him,
28:09
Speaker 1: they have to give up capital in the former drafted
28:12
Speaker 1: plus they have to take on the contract. You wait
28:14
Speaker 1: for a team to waive a guy, there's no compensation
28:18
Speaker 1: and you can redo the contract. You know, have to
28:20
Speaker 1: absorb the contract you don't take the contract on. So
28:23
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how it all unfolds. Will
28:26
Speaker 1: Jackson is younger, and Will also has the one great
28:31
Speaker 1: season on his resume. He has not been able to
28:34
Speaker 1: back it up since unfortunately, but at least the one
28:38
Speaker 1: year he showed the potential of being one of the
28:40
Speaker 1: better cover corners in the NFL, Whereas Dre has had
28:45
Speaker 1: his moments. I would say throughout his career he's certainly
28:48
Speaker 1: been above average, but there has not been a season
28:51
Speaker 1: where you thought, all right, this guy could be one
28:53
Speaker 1: of the best in the league. I think that I
28:56
Speaker 1: agree with you, Dan, and I think if you're paying
28:58
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and eleven million bucks a year, you expect them
29:02
Speaker 1: to tackle and you expect them to find the football.
29:05
Speaker 1: And both of them have had their issues in both
29:07
Speaker 1: those areas. I mean, you know a lot of times
29:10
Speaker 1: it's like you're you're in position, find the ball and
29:14
Speaker 1: then you know that's I think that's what that's what
29:16
Speaker 1: they've done. Um. You know, in terms of a lot
29:19
Speaker 1: of the people that they signed on the back end,
29:21
Speaker 1: they'll tackle, Like we talked about, uh Trey Waynes and
29:26
Speaker 1: McKenzie Alexander, who is there? What team are there with Minnesota?
29:30
Speaker 1: Mike Sander. You don't tackle, you don't play. These guys
29:33
Speaker 1: will tackle, Von Bell will tackle um and then ball skills,
29:38
Speaker 1: you know, find the football, making a play on Winston
29:41
Speaker 1: Rome was a guy they signed from the CFLs the intersection.
29:43
Speaker 1: Leabel in in that league. So and and you know
29:47
Speaker 1: Trey Trey Waynes can find the football. And this really
29:51
Speaker 1: have to be improved is turned taking taking the football away.
29:55
Speaker 1: When the ball, when you have your chance to make
29:58
Speaker 1: a play on the football, find it and make the play.
30:01
Speaker 1: And when you have to get somebody on the ground,
30:04
Speaker 1: get them on the ground. No miss tackles or minimize
30:08
Speaker 1: miss tackles. There are far too many miss tackles last year.
30:13
Speaker 1: Next question comes from Brian. With all of the new faces,
30:17
Speaker 1: how does coach Taylor expect to build a team when
30:20
Speaker 1: they can't even be in the same room. Yeah, that's
30:23
Speaker 1: that's gonna be. That's the interesting part of it. And
30:26
Speaker 1: you know, and you're talking about a rookie quarterback that
30:31
Speaker 1: hasn't experienced the NFL at all. At least these guys
30:34
Speaker 1: have played in the National Football League and they do
30:37
Speaker 1: have experience, you know, at the highest level. Um and
30:41
Speaker 1: and again they've they've been I'd rather have guys that
30:45
Speaker 1: that I'm going to have a short period of time
30:47
Speaker 1: to build a culture in a chemistry those two important
30:51
Speaker 1: C words the most important. You know, you want to
30:53
Speaker 1: be a C square team. Culture and chemistry is huge. Guys,
30:58
Speaker 1: that come from winning programs already have that. You know,
31:01
Speaker 1: they they they've they've experienced it, they've assimilated it. It's
31:04
Speaker 1: part of their DNA. So I think that's a that's
31:07
Speaker 1: a plus for a short period of time to put
31:09
Speaker 1: it all together as you've got guys that that know
31:12
Speaker 1: what you have to do, the sacrifice you have to make,
31:15
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, the the old corny you know,
31:18
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's we us, it's not. I mean,
31:21
Speaker 1: you have guys that that have have seen that happen,
31:24
Speaker 1: and as a result of seeing an experience in it,
31:27
Speaker 1: they taste the sweet nectar of a playoff, you know,
31:30
Speaker 1: playoff appearances. I think that's a big plus when you
31:33
Speaker 1: look at this, uh, you know, potentially shortened time frame,
31:37
Speaker 1: all right, similar questions from Eric and Jerry. Eric writes,
31:41
Speaker 1: even though you have stated stated previously you're all in
31:44
Speaker 1: on Joe Burrow, would you at least listen to offers
31:47
Speaker 1: from other teams? And then Jerry's a little bit more specific.
31:50
Speaker 1: He said, would you trade the number one pick if
31:53
Speaker 1: Miami offered its first six picks and Miami's first six
31:59
Speaker 1: picks or three first rounders, two second rounders, in a third.
32:03
Speaker 1: So what do you think of those two questions? Man?
32:06
Speaker 1: Two three first rounders, two seconds and a third? How
32:09
Speaker 1: do you not not think about pulling the trigger on
32:12
Speaker 1: that bad point and you're you're falling to the to
32:15
Speaker 1: the number five spot. Um, you know at that point
32:18
Speaker 1: in time, are you still in the marketplace for TA
32:22
Speaker 1: Probably not. You know they're talking about you're gonna have
32:24
Speaker 1: to move up to number three and maybe even number
32:27
Speaker 1: two to make sure a number three doesn't get them.
32:30
Speaker 1: I mean, um, basically, what you're doing to move back
32:35
Speaker 1: to the at least to the Miami's number five spot.
32:38
Speaker 1: You're you're potentially saying, I'm not just giving up on
32:42
Speaker 1: Joe Barrow, I'm giving up on two twa as well.
32:45
Speaker 1: Uh Am, I okay with you know, with with other guys,
32:49
Speaker 1: and you know, okay, if you're if you're okay with
32:52
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, and then you can get all these draft kicks.
32:56
Speaker 1: I guess you got to think about it a little bit. Um.
32:59
Speaker 1: Obviously you'd have to do your due diligence and just
33:03
Speaker 1: out of you know, you can't just say I don't
33:05
Speaker 1: even want to think about it. You know, I'm done.
33:07
Speaker 1: Everything has its price, but I do think, and I know,
33:11
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are are. You know,
33:14
Speaker 1: the Joe Ball's arm strength in a small hand is
33:16
Speaker 1: going to be the two things people beat the hell
33:18
Speaker 1: out of him about. And the fact that he had
33:21
Speaker 1: one successful year. And why did that one successful year happen? Well,
33:25
Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of reasons that happened, but the
33:27
Speaker 1: fact is it did. And it wasn't just successful. It
33:30
Speaker 1: might have been the greatest year and sure, most people's opinion,
33:34
Speaker 1: including mine, the best year the college quarterback ever had
33:38
Speaker 1: in NCAA history. And you know the thing about him, Dan,
33:41
Speaker 1: it is more to hear about him. He's not just
33:44
Speaker 1: a competitive football player. To dude, it's a competitive learner.
33:48
Speaker 1: I mean, he has an insatiable appetite for football and
33:54
Speaker 1: he cannot get enough of it. He cannot learn enough
33:57
Speaker 1: of it. And the great ones, great Peyton Manning, you know,
34:01
Speaker 1: not not the greatest arms in the National Football League,
34:05
Speaker 1: but men's men's men's unbelievable minds for the game of football.
34:11
Speaker 1: And you know you can, you can. You'll find guys
34:13
Speaker 1: that are gonna be bigger, stronger, throughout, harder, maybe run
34:17
Speaker 1: faster than than those guys. All of them. But nobody,
34:21
Speaker 1: nobody is gonna work harder to be prepared mentally and
34:26
Speaker 1: be able to comprehend and assimilate the game of football
34:30
Speaker 1: better than those guys. I put Joe Burrow in that
34:32
Speaker 1: classroom when I'm hearing, I mean, he is just he's
34:35
Speaker 1: a competitive learner. You can't have enough competitive learners man,
34:39
Speaker 1: particularly at that position. And I mean Peyton Manning. You know,
34:43
Speaker 1: his his arm would be categorized as a pop gun
34:46
Speaker 1: compared to a lot of guys. But look at look
34:48
Speaker 1: at how he played, uh, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Joe
34:52
Speaker 1: Montana did not you know, I watched Joe Montana play
34:55
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of games, and you know
34:58
Speaker 1: his arm arm was adequate, But it wasn't a Howard
35:00
Speaker 1: strip with Joe Montana mensa mensa menza and a guy
35:04
Speaker 1: like DoLS, you know, feeding him all this information. I mean,
35:08
Speaker 1: those are those are the kind of things that you
35:11
Speaker 1: that you got to have. And in my mind, it's
35:13
Speaker 1: a tiebreaker. And I think T is strong in those
35:17
Speaker 1: areas as well. But everything I'm hearing and reading about
35:19
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is man, he's just he's off the charts,
35:23
Speaker 1: all right. I was going to save this next one
35:25
Speaker 1: for last, but after what you just said about Joe Burrow,
35:28
Speaker 1: I'm going to stick this in right now because this
35:30
Speaker 1: comes from a J. Smith. He's a very passionate Bengals
35:34
Speaker 1: fan who is also very passionately against drafting Joe Burrow.
35:39
Speaker 1: In fact, he goes so far overboard that I can't
35:43
Speaker 1: tell if he's like pulling a skip Bayless lebron Stinks
35:47
Speaker 1: kind of take to get a reaction, or if he
35:50
Speaker 1: really means it. But this is what AJ wrote with
35:53
Speaker 1: lap recommend a quarterback with one great season, small hands,
35:59
Speaker 1: below the average arm strength, and more seasons is a
36:02
Speaker 1: bench warmer than a performer. You can't work him out.
36:06
Speaker 1: He sat for the combine in the Senior Bowl. Do
36:09
Speaker 1: you risk thirty six million plus on a prospect like that? Well,
36:15
Speaker 1: I guess you know, what does he does? He totally
36:18
Speaker 1: disregard with those nine inch hands and the you know,
36:22
Speaker 1: the weak arm and everything. What the personify season he
36:26
Speaker 1: did have? You know, I mean it's you know, and
36:30
Speaker 1: like I said, there's there's a there's a lot, there's
36:32
Speaker 1: a lot of weak I mean, Joe Brady's a reason
36:34
Speaker 1: Joe Brady obviously got a coordinate a job with the
36:37
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. He had great weapons, so did TA. You
36:41
Speaker 1: don't think TWA had great weapons at Alabama? I mean
36:44
Speaker 1: dog sometimes? Okay, Tom Tom Brady, how do how do
36:49
Speaker 1: you put Jet Tom Brady to have the career that
36:51
Speaker 1: he has has had in the National Football League. You
36:54
Speaker 1: can't until you get your opportunity. And finally Joe Barrow
36:58
Speaker 1: got his opportunity. What what do you are? It's an
37:00
Speaker 1: ask for It's an opportunity. And when opportunity knocks, you
37:03
Speaker 1: open the door. He normally opened it. He kicked it in.
37:07
Speaker 1: I mean, greatest greatest season in college football in history,
37:11
Speaker 1: and I always talked about it before. You look at
37:13
Speaker 1: the college, the College, the SEC championship game, and then
37:17
Speaker 1: the two games in the in the playoffs, including in
37:20
Speaker 1: the National Championship game in the NCAA. Those three games,
37:24
Speaker 1: sixteen touchdowns rushed to two more, no fumbles, no interceptions.
37:30
Speaker 1: All I can say with those nine inch hands, he
37:32
Speaker 1: didn't turn it over. He has two hands on the football.
37:37
Speaker 1: He knows, he knows how to protect the football. And
37:40
Speaker 1: this is playing at the highest level of football in
37:42
Speaker 1: the SEC. And then the best teams you know, in
37:45
Speaker 1: the in the tournament to win the NC Double A championship.
37:48
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I've got people that know
37:51
Speaker 1: a lot more about quarterback in the need that I've
37:53
Speaker 1: talked to. When they watched Jafe, they say it might
37:54
Speaker 1: have been the perfect, most perfect season they've ever seen
37:59
Speaker 1: a quarterback hal h at any level of football, and that,
38:02
Speaker 1: you know, that's saying something. Sorry to disappoint you. Aj
38:05
Speaker 1: Lap remains all in on Joe Burrow. All right, We've
38:10
Speaker 1: got a bunch of questions from people about the offensive line,
38:13
Speaker 1: Scott CM, Michael Alexander, and others. I'll kind of condense
38:17
Speaker 1: it into what Scott wrote. He asked, have the Bengals
38:21
Speaker 1: done enough with the offensive line and free agency where
38:24
Speaker 1: they can draft somebody to complete the job of turning
38:27
Speaker 1: that group around. Yeah? I do. I think that. I
38:32
Speaker 1: think that, you know, you look at a lot of
38:34
Speaker 1: things that have that have gone on there. The eleventh
38:37
Speaker 1: pick in the draft didn't play a snap last year
38:39
Speaker 1: obviously due to injury, is going to be back, you know. Um,
38:44
Speaker 1: he's that other guys that that stepped up during the
38:48
Speaker 1: course of the season and made themselves h you know,
38:52
Speaker 1: made made themselves some money and are going to be
38:54
Speaker 1: in the in the track Johnson in the competition that
38:57
Speaker 1: the right tackles as I think he's gonna got up
39:00
Speaker 1: big and uh, you know, and makes some noise there. Um,
39:05
Speaker 1: Xavier will be competing a guard with Redmond and Jordan.
39:08
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the offensive line is gonna look
39:11
Speaker 1: a lot different. Could have a different right tackle, could
39:13
Speaker 1: have it's gonna have a different right guard. I'll have
39:16
Speaker 1: the same center it price plates excuse me, Jordan plays
39:20
Speaker 1: from left guard team Billy Price. His dead guys be
39:24
Speaker 1: battling and out probably for that that particular spot, you know.
39:28
Speaker 1: And then then you get you get your eleventh pick
39:31
Speaker 1: of the draft. Like having two number ones this year,
39:34
Speaker 1: you have a first round draft pick just outside of
39:37
Speaker 1: the top ten. It's gonna be lining up at the
39:39
Speaker 1: left tackle position. So both your tackles could be different.
39:43
Speaker 1: Your right guard's gonna be different at sixty percent of
39:46
Speaker 1: your offensive line right there. So I'm thinking that that
39:50
Speaker 1: they've done done quite a bit, and um, you know,
39:53
Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince are going to take a look at obviously.
39:55
Speaker 1: I mean, they've they've got they've got options there, and
39:58
Speaker 1: I think the draft they will Um expend at least
40:02
Speaker 1: to pick I think on the offensive line, William asks
40:07
Speaker 1: if there's any chance the Bengals signed Jason Peters to
40:10
Speaker 1: play right tackle. Tim asks, if there's any chance that
40:14
Speaker 1: the Bengals acquire Trent Williams to play right tackle. I
40:18
Speaker 1: think with what the money they've spent, I don't. I
40:21
Speaker 1: don't think they've got the money to do it. I
40:23
Speaker 1: really don't. Um, I don't. I don't necessarily you know,
40:28
Speaker 1: see that to be the to be the case. I
40:30
Speaker 1: don't think those and unless there's a huge deal to
40:33
Speaker 1: be had, you know, unless free agency, uh, if if
40:38
Speaker 1: those guys were of value what they're uh, what they're
40:44
Speaker 1: presenting right now, they'd already be teams knocking doors down.
40:48
Speaker 1: And you I don't know, I don't know exactly what's happening.
40:51
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of talks going on. And
40:53
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Bengals were one of the
40:55
Speaker 1: teams that initially you know, Gutton talks about those players.
40:58
Speaker 1: But UM, you know the thing that the thing that
41:01
Speaker 1: you do have to remember is, you know, Trent Williams
41:06
Speaker 1: in particular company, he's a serious injury that we're talking
41:09
Speaker 1: about now. You know, is he gonna be one hundred
41:11
Speaker 1: percent from this, you know, cancers, tumor on his head, um,
41:16
Speaker 1: you know that that Sometimes sometimes you just you just
41:21
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, where where is there's gonna be
41:26
Speaker 1: X number of years in a career, and what's going
41:28
Speaker 1: to take you down the backside slope of that that
41:32
Speaker 1: career and when is it going to happen? Both of
41:35
Speaker 1: them are are a little bit long in the tooth.
41:37
Speaker 1: To me, I would I would feel a little bit
41:40
Speaker 1: better about Trent Williams. I guess maybe I I've seen
41:44
Speaker 1: him play. I mean, he was the most athletic, dominant
41:48
Speaker 1: lyman I saw playing college for a good number of years.
41:51
Speaker 1: When he was in Oklahoma, he was he was unbelievable,
41:54
Speaker 1: unbelievable when he was playing there. Just a stud. Got
41:59
Speaker 1: a ton of questions about the thirty third pick in
42:02
Speaker 1: the draft. I'll had condense it down to a couple.
42:05
Speaker 1: Dum pointed out that on a previous podcast, you had
42:08
Speaker 1: suggested that you thought the Bengals were likely to go
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Speaker 1: with the best defensive player on the board at number
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Speaker 1: thirty three. Do you still feel that way in light
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Speaker 1: of the free agent acquisitions and similar thought from O
42:19
Speaker 1: b With all the defensive additions in free agency, are
42:22
Speaker 1: we going offense with the first three picks? Well, I,
42:28
Speaker 1: like I said before, I still think that they have
42:31
Speaker 1: to get another linebacker, more than one. They have to
42:35
Speaker 1: get another starting linebacker, another sam backer. Now is he
42:40
Speaker 1: would he be the best guy? You know? A guy
42:42
Speaker 1: like oh, Logan Wilson out of Wyoming. Is you know
42:47
Speaker 1: somebody that I think is a good player, Zach Bond.
42:51
Speaker 1: Both of these guys were at the Senior Bowl. I
42:53
Speaker 1: thought both of these guys were really good linebackers, really
42:56
Speaker 1: good players. You know, Zach Bond was a high school
42:59
Speaker 1: quarterback one time. And you know, I remember when I
43:02
Speaker 1: was playing at Syracuse, Jolly Perturno would take high school
43:04
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and converted the linebacker. And they're always great players,
43:08
Speaker 1: you know, big body guys that filled out and had
43:10
Speaker 1: great football sense and instincts. And I think Zach Bond
43:14
Speaker 1: has got a little bit of that out of Wisconsin.
43:16
Speaker 1: And Logan Wilson's a foreign a tackle guy. You know,
43:19
Speaker 1: he went to UH College at while he's one hundred
43:22
Speaker 1: and ninety five pound defensive back, wide receiver and now
43:25
Speaker 1: he's like two fifty and six two two fifty and
43:28
Speaker 1: he's you know, three year captains. So I'm not still
43:32
Speaker 1: if if those guys, if thirty three is too rich,
43:36
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe move back, if one of those
43:39
Speaker 1: two guys is going to be there later in the
43:41
Speaker 1: second round, moved back, pick up an additional draft pick
43:45
Speaker 1: and take take one of them there and move one
43:48
Speaker 1: of those guys or another guy at linebacker or any
43:50
Speaker 1: other person they may have evaluated higher than that. I
43:53
Speaker 1: do think that linebacker will be paid attention to in
43:57
Speaker 1: the draft. Other than that, I do think that to
44:00
Speaker 1: go offensive line and wide receiver, you know, wide receiver draft,
44:04
Speaker 1: it's the It's as deep as there's been in many,
44:07
Speaker 1: many years. And I do think at some point in time,
44:09
Speaker 1: there's gonna be in any one of the rounds, particularly
44:12
Speaker 1: because like we talked about so many times day, and
44:15
Speaker 1: they're so high, they're so high every round. It's gonna
44:17
Speaker 1: be every time they reshuffled their board. Damn, I can't
44:20
Speaker 1: believe that receiver is still there. And then people are
44:22
Speaker 1: gonna be calling them, you know, to you and you know,
44:25
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know if they'd be going off to
44:26
Speaker 1: the same receiver the Bengals that targeted, but you know,
44:29
Speaker 1: having that first tick in every round is a good
44:32
Speaker 1: place to be. And uh, and you're gonna be able
44:35
Speaker 1: to get whoever slid when they reshuffle their boards after
44:39
Speaker 1: that round is done, you know you're gonna have the
44:41
Speaker 1: first crack at it. So I'm sure there will be
44:45
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at some point that they're gonna say,
44:47
Speaker 1: we can't pass on this guy. But you know that
44:51
Speaker 1: every every Bengal fan is probably feeling the same way.
44:55
Speaker 1: Is this year that Adrian Ross, excuse me, John Ross
44:59
Speaker 1: and he Jay Green play significant number snaps together on
45:03
Speaker 1: the field at the same time. It hasn't happened. I mean,
45:07
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. And then Tyler Boyd, you know, I
45:10
Speaker 1: mean that if they can Tyler Boyd obviously has giving
45:13
Speaker 1: them a lot of good. If they can have that
45:15
Speaker 1: those three guys just for one year, particularly with a
45:19
Speaker 1: new quarterback, potentially you know, coming into the mix man
45:23
Speaker 1: make all the difference in the world. You know. But um,
45:26
Speaker 1: if you can improve that line back, that wide receiver position,
45:29
Speaker 1: and that's the best player on the board at thirty
45:32
Speaker 1: three and you can't move back, do it? Do it?
45:34
Speaker 1: You always take the best player? Well, there two more
45:37
Speaker 1: of these from the audience from Kadiki. How many draft
45:40
Speaker 1: picks will the Bengals wind up with? That's a great question.
45:45
Speaker 1: I think more than seven. I'm I'm I'm almost hoping
45:49
Speaker 1: that it's closer than nine. I'd I'd like to see
45:53
Speaker 1: him come come away with nine draft picks in this
45:55
Speaker 1: year's draft. That that would uh, you know that that
45:58
Speaker 1: could make some sense to me? All right? Final ask
46:03
Speaker 1: lap question. This one comes from Daniel not Horde. With
46:09
Speaker 1: linebacker issues, would there be any thought of bringing back
46:14
Speaker 1: Vontes Perfect, Boy, I don't see it. I really don't
46:20
Speaker 1: see that. I was just gonna go with no, yeah,
46:24
Speaker 1: I did. That would be a you know, in in
46:26
Speaker 1: this in this year or football, like we said before, Um,
46:30
Speaker 1: it's you know, you're playing with two linebackers a lot.
46:33
Speaker 1: And Vontz obviously he was one of those two linebackers
46:36
Speaker 1: a good part of his career here and since Nattie.
46:39
Speaker 1: But I mean he's you know, he he's getting longer
46:41
Speaker 1: in the tooth and h I just I just don't
46:45
Speaker 1: see it. I think that, uh, I think that they
46:47
Speaker 1: need to then they need to get some young bodies
46:50
Speaker 1: in here they can run and uh and go that way.
46:54
Speaker 1: That's that's the way the National Football League's going. Everybody
46:56
Speaker 1: is everybody's trying to spread you out in isolation space.
47:00
Speaker 1: And uh, the linebacker position, there's not there's not a
47:03
Speaker 1: whole lot of uh, you know, Dicktka's rain Nichkey, you know,
47:08
Speaker 1: you know numbers downhill knock your block off linebackers in
47:12
Speaker 1: this league anymore? All right? I look forward to when
47:17
Speaker 1: we can do this sitting side by side in our
47:19
Speaker 1: cubicles as opposed to long distance. I hear you, Dan,
47:24
Speaker 1: I hope uh, I hope you and the Horde family
47:27
Speaker 1: are all staying staying healthy and happy and uh getting
47:30
Speaker 1: through this the best you possibly can. Same to you.
47:33
Speaker 1: Careful and hopeful are my slogans. I like it. I
47:38
Speaker 1: like it. There's no no doubt about it. And I'll
47:40
Speaker 1: tell you though it is boring, isn't it holy? It's unbelievable.
47:46
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about stir crazy. I mean I've
47:49
Speaker 1: got I have fanny fatigue. Man, I get to get
47:52
Speaker 1: up and move start moving around a little bit more. Man,
47:55
Speaker 1: I got f squared fanny fatigue disease. I don't want
47:57
Speaker 1: to haul one of the worst symptoms of home confinement,
48:03
Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Thanks all right, Dan, have a great one.
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