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- 0:00It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition mister A Realta Show EPISOD
- 0:21number seven, nineteen November twenty third, twenty twenty three. This is your
- 0:26aw Pole Deer Recap and w WEE sur Robert Series, more Games, the
- 0:29Review and for addictions edition of ass R Team You. I am One Apple
- 0:36the Show. I Am Jack Peck joined every single week on call with Tomorrow
- 0:40on the Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey, Happy Thanksgiving, my Friend.
- 0:46Okay, you went with the most basic. I thought you're gonna ask me
- 0:51if I've ever drank somebody's blood. I thought You're gonna asking if I've ever
- 0:55worn a devil's mask. I thought you were asking if if I hear voices
- 0:59in my head? And you went with Happy Thanksgiving with Jeff, Happy thanks
- 1:03my friend, Happy Thanksgiving. You know, I think any other week I
- 1:07would have absolutely opened up with something along those lines. I like the Hangman
- 1:12page reference that you started off with because it freaked the hell out of me
- 1:15on Saturday night. But yeah, this is it's this is one of those
- 1:22shows we've done now for thirteen years of SRTU, starting off in twenty ten
- 1:27and once we switched over from Saturday to Thursdays, we have always done a
- 1:33Thanksgiving show. I've always said, if you need to get away from family
- 1:36for a little bit and you want to listen to two guys talk about professional
- 1:38wrestling for forty minutes to an hour, this is your cup of tea right
- 1:42now. And I don't know. This has always been like a good catapult
- 1:47for me for the Thanksgiving holiday, get the holiday season going, and slowly
- 1:53whine down the year. So I'm in a good festive holiday mood, doctor
- 1:57Tree, because it's one of my favorite, if not my favorite holiday now,
- 2:00Thanksgiving. And it's weird how we have it's everything's progressed as we lounch
- 2:06the show because for a while, Survivor series kind of became an afterthought for
- 2:09a little while, Like when the show first started, like that we weren't
- 2:13doing anything, you know, we didn't have war games, we weren't doing
- 2:15like we already had a battleground show, so it wasn't really brand bursts brand.
- 2:20It was kind of almost you know, Survivor Seris was having left in
- 2:23the background, and none of the other brands were really doing big Thanksgiving shows,
- 2:28so we would do our favorite tag teams or our best of our favorite
- 2:32Thanksgiving moments or things like that. So and then now we live in a
- 2:37world where it was like, oh, there's like four big there's all these
- 2:40companies running all these big wrestling shows on right around Thanksgiving. So we don't
- 2:46get to tell the fans the top five things that wrestling we're most thankful for
- 2:51because we have excuse me, preview up, the adictions and recaps. I'm
- 2:57so sorry about that. By bad like we talked about off air, but
- 3:02there's always recaps, previous predictions, everything else, and was I started to
- 3:06catch up the Jeff so he doesn't make me say this year, which he
- 3:09forgot about last year. So yeah, it's totally fine. It's we've kind
- 3:13of gone past it. I feel like we've been done that last like the
- 3:15three years of doing the prediction stuff and more or less just now something we
- 3:19can keep track of and has some fun. But yeah, I mean doctor
- 3:21Trey doing a ton of callbacks to I remember like five things that we were
- 3:24thankful for in professional wrestling that wasn't always a good show to put in the
- 3:30books for Thanksgiving or you know, things that are tied to Thanksgiving as wrestling
- 3:35fans, I always remember us telling the stories of for me, like Survivor
- 3:39Series ninety three was one of those shows that got me into professional wrestling.
- 3:45And how much you know Thanksgiving holiday was a big wrestling holiday, like they
- 3:51would do Survivor Series on Thanksgiving. Doctor Trey talking about watching wrestling with his
- 3:57grandmother, you know, during the Thanksgiving holidays, Like it's it's stuff like
- 4:00that that ties us all into this holiday professional Wrestlane. But like Doctor Trey
- 4:06said, there is a ton of stuff going on professional wrest right now sandwiched
- 4:11in between like a good Thanksgiving leftover. On Friday afternoon, two major pay
- 4:16per views from two different major United States companies. Let's start with aw full
- 4:21gear recap review. Doctor Trade came to us this past Saturday from the Key
- 4:25Of Forum in Inglewood, California. We had three pre show matches, the
- 4:30first being Eddie Kingston defeeding Jay Lethal to retain the ROH World Championship. We
- 4:35did not predict this one. This actually had a storyline leading into it,
- 4:39which is pretty cool to see, which is a theme for this entire show.
- 4:43I want to preface this all by saying that this was one of the
- 4:46better creatively booked shows that AW has done in some time, because there was
- 4:51a storyline tied to every single match, which there are times that AW does
- 4:57not do that. They just throw matches together and it makes you scratch you
- 5:00had, It makes you go like, why should I give a shit?
- 5:01So I want to preface it by saying that ed even with the pre show,
- 5:04I'm not a fan of ROH World CHAMPIONSIP being on the pre show zero
- 5:08Hour, but nonetheless, Eddie Kingston defeats Jay Lethal in a good, solid
- 5:12match what you expect from Kingston and Lethal, and it was an enjoyable start
- 5:15to the pre show Doctor Trey. Yeah, and even having a stokely Hathaway
- 5:18on commentary to help even build the story up even more as him being part
- 5:23of the board of director's for Ring of Honor, which I didn't know that
- 5:26was a thing, So it was nice. But yeah, it was a
- 5:30fun match. The only my only issue, and it's not with the match,
- 5:32it's kind of with the Continental Classic is after the match, Eddie Kingson
- 5:39threw his name in a half for that and now we're talking about the American
- 5:42Triple Crown Champion. I'm like, doesn't that then devalue the Ring of Honor
- 5:46title if this guy's willing to risk it to become the Continental Champion, Like,
- 5:51does that put that title even lower on the mantle. But that's just
- 5:56me being nitpicky about the hierarchy of professional wrestling titles is just ridiculous anyway.
- 6:00But the match yourself, it's fine. It was solid. You got to
- 6:02see you know, Stanham saying try to do the strut, which I thought
- 6:08was kind of was cute, but overall solid match which you would expect from
- 6:13two guys like Eddie Kingston and Jay Lethal. Yeah. I mean, there's
- 6:16so much to discuss there, the way that roh has been booked under Tony
- 6:19Kahan's ownership, even the Continental Championship, which when they first announced the Continental
- 6:27Classic, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool, and I
- 6:29thought that somebody was just getting in a championship like trophy like they do for
- 6:32the owen Hart Cup. But then when I've realized that it was another championship
- 6:38being added to aw that could be a show in itself. But I'm gonna
- 6:41digress from that right now and just get to the next match, which is
- 6:44Claudio cast and only defeating Buddy Murphy. We did not predict that one as
- 6:46well. My only issue with this match is that Claudio and Buddy should be
- 6:49on the main show, another enjoyable pre show match on zero hour Doctor try
- 6:56Yeah, and then you're watching a matching man. Why didn't WW do this
- 6:59do this match more often for these two guys, because, I mean,
- 7:02we all know Claudio. Claudio is the modern to me, is the modern
- 7:05day Lance Storm, like Lancethorm, a guy that, if you watch him
- 7:09wrestle, should have been a world champion multiple times, and just because of
- 7:13perceived promo skills or whatever, never got to that level. And then Buddy
- 7:17Matthews watching him work a singles match, you forget how good he is and
- 7:23how impressed with an athlete he is. So this was a really solid match
- 7:27up team two. I don't want to say young guys, because both these
- 7:30guys are ten fifteen, twenty year vets but maybe underappreciated talents in the world
- 7:34of professional wrestling. But like you said, like this could have been a
- 7:40main show card any other time. And also, you know what a four
- 7:46day build up to it? What? You know? It's it was a
- 7:47storyline, but it was a short storyline to get to the match, but
- 7:50the little bump at the end of the match sets it up so that maybe
- 7:54we get House of Black versus Blackpoole Combat Club, which that will be really
- 7:58fun. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff going on there
- 8:01that can come from this match. And again, like it was a zero
- 8:05R match, I was happy because it was free. And then the next
- 8:07match here, MJF and samoo Jo defeated Guns to retain the ROH World Tig
- 8:11Team Championship. This was the only match going into it that we did predict
- 8:15on zero hours and we both at MGF and samo Joe. I thought the
- 8:18match was fine and it helped set up the main show with the Andrey angle
- 8:20with MJF postmatch. My problem with this though, was I thought Samojo was
- 8:26going to be a friend to MJF until his title match and not just the
- 8:30tag team match the defendent titles at full gear. So the explanation of like
- 8:33I'm gonna protect you was confusing because I would have figured that Samojo would have
- 8:37come down, out, come out to make the save. That's being a
- 8:41nitpicky to me, and I don't know if this resonated with you, Doctor
- 8:46Trey. I had a lot of old school late nineties Sunday Night Heat vibes
- 8:52where WWE would have Sunday Night Heat before the pay per view and they would
- 8:56run an angle that made sense and carried itself through the rest of the pay
- 9:00per view. And that's what this did. Being nitpicky on the Samo Joe
- 9:03stuff aside, the storyline of mgf's injury going into the main show was really
- 9:09well done and really well executed. I did have a funny like haha moment
- 9:16that I'm sure has been picked up on Twitter. I really don't go on
- 9:18that platform anymore. But at the end of Zero Hour, where Adam Cole
- 9:24is saying to himself, like what am I going to do? He said
- 9:26it twice and they panned back and you could see the backstage area behind Adam
- 9:33Cole and who's walking down the steps, but one of the guns it looked
- 9:35like Austin gun. I'm like, oh shit that if you go back and
- 9:39watch Zero Hour unless they've edited out, I thought that was a very funny
- 9:43thing. You could see clearly see the tights of one of the guns,
- 9:46and you know, just to spend my disbelief. Nonetheless, match was fine.
- 9:52Samoa Joe angle was confusing. The injury angle was really well done.
- 9:58Doctor Treer thoughts, Yeah, my only issue with it is, you know,
- 10:01you're building up You've been building up bullet Clip Gold to be like this
- 10:05dominant, you know, pretty strong fashion. I kind of wanted the Guns
- 10:11to have I don't want to say a little bit, and maybe they got
- 10:13enough. I just felt like they didn't look strong enough in the match,
- 10:18and then they got their payback on the post match beating down. I'm with
- 10:20you. It confused me because they kept saying that Joe is helping MJF so
- 10:26that he can get a shot at MJF, you know, and that's how
- 10:30much. But that made me think that if Jay White won, Joe doesn't
- 10:33get a shot, and then so then why wouldn't Joe run into make the
- 10:39save when the Guns are beating down MJF. Because by weakening MJF, Joe
- 10:43might be losing his title shots. So that's why I got confused with it,
- 10:48and I was like, well, that doesn't make a lot of sense.
- 10:50And then like I think, like the injury angle, like you said,
- 10:54like that was old school, like we're going to tie this into the
- 10:56pay per view later tonight. Then you know, just MJF on the stretcher
- 11:01begged, don't let them take my title. Don't let them take my title,
- 11:05And I don't know about you. I was confused when MZF came down
- 11:07with only one Ring of Honor Tag Team title belt, because I was like,
- 11:11well, that just gives it away that the Guns aren't winning, because
- 11:15then you got to go track down the other belt to award it all.
- 11:18So that was also like just a little nitpiggy pin. But overall, like
- 11:22the match was good. I just wish the Guns had a little bit more
- 11:24offense. But that's also because right now, I think you and I can
- 11:26both agree that we're both kind of guns marks right now because they're very very
- 11:30entertaining. They have been very very entertaining. They've really grown on me as
- 11:33the time has gone on. Onto the main show. Here, Sting Darby
- 11:37Allen, Adam Copeland defeat Christian Cage, Lucasaurce and Nick Wayne. We had
- 11:41Sting's team both predicted to win. Nice opener to kick off the show.
- 11:45The crowd was really excited for this one and behind the match throughout I'm intrigued
- 11:48to see where Christian accidentally hitting Lucasaurs with the T and T Championship and then
- 11:52leaving them behind will play out moving forward. A Lucasaurus face turn feels like
- 11:56it's coming sooner rather than later. Let me preface again by saying, Doctor
- 12:01treynar recording this Tuesday night of Thanksgiving week. This show will probably be made
- 12:07available on Wednesday, So obviously Doctor Trannon are not watching ton of Mine on
- 12:11Wednesday night to see if there is any follow up from anything in aw Nonetheless,
- 12:15Doctor Trey Sting, Darby, Adam Copland get the victory. You got
- 12:18Adam Copeland in face paint as well, Like that was a nice little touch
- 12:22that reminded me of the old school NWAWCW, the dudes with attitudes or you
- 12:28know Sting's squadron, you know, and all the guys that do the face
- 12:33paint. That was a little bit homage to the throwback. The match himself
- 12:37was fine, nothing shocking or surprising other than you know, the Lucasaurus bump
- 12:41and then Christian walking out, by the way, what a great name for
- 12:45a stable the patriarchy. That was great, and that was like a little
- 12:48throwaway line that I think Nigel said towards the end of the match, like
- 12:52you know, what's Christia's cage would do with him walking out of the patriarchy.
- 12:54I was like, Oh, if that's a stable name, that's great.
- 12:58I love that it was on the Titan tron. See I'm watching it
- 13:03from my phone, so I couldn't see some of the finer like the smaller
- 13:07print stuff. So that was my That was my issue because I had to
- 13:11watch it that such a small screen. So but I love that it's great
- 13:13name. So and then why nobody canna be that name in all these years
- 13:18of professional wrestling baffles me. So I don't know if it's I don't know
- 13:22if we've got enough lucassaurus abuse to really dive into a full flinched face turn,
- 13:28because maybe his face turn is still a little too early considering his heel
- 13:33turn wasn't that long ago, so I still think people picture him as a
- 13:37baby face at time. So I think we need a little bit more of
- 13:41you. You have to, you have to really really abuse the monster before
- 13:45the monster turns to go off on his own, so that it's can vibes
- 13:48right, Yeah, yeah, it really is but it's like you got to
- 13:52beat on the monster more and more and make it more sympathetic. And I
- 13:54don't think we've got to the point where we feel bad for Lucasaurus yet.
- 13:58I think it's getting there. I think it's getting there, though, Doctor
- 14:00Try I do. I mean that choke slam onto the apron of Darby Allen,
- 14:03I'm like, I don't know. I think it feels bad for that
- 14:05guy that just literally tossed Darby like he was like a second potatoes. All
- 14:09it takes is like a really shitty heel, which Christian is though, or
- 14:13just like light them on fire. Sure gues you could do that too,
- 14:16and it always gets people sympathetic. Next match is Orange Casside defeating John Moxley
- 14:22to retain the aw International Championship. John Moxley, I had doctor trade Orange
- 14:26Cassidy. Fantastic match. I really enjoy seeing that. The dynamic that Moxley
- 14:31brings out a whole new side of Orange Cassady we typically never see. Cassidy
- 14:35going over clean on mox is a huge deal and well deserved for one of
- 14:37the best wrestlers this year in Orange Cassidy, Big Winford. Orange Cassidy Doctor
- 14:43Tracy defeats John Moxley. Yeah, and I love the way they booked it
- 14:46because you know Orange starting off strong and Moxley no selling it and then Moxley
- 14:52basically beating his ass for most of the match until you got the comeback.
- 14:56But then you thought you thought Ornge got the desperation in Cassidy get to win,
- 14:58like busting out red Rum, you know, throwing what like's like five
- 15:03or six Orange punches in a row and try and put Moxley down. Like
- 15:07it was a really compelling match. But also it just shows that Max is
- 15:09one of those guys that goes, hey, we need to elevate this guy,
- 15:13and the only way we can do it is make him give him depth
- 15:16to the character. We have to make him look that he can pull out
- 15:18the more physical side of his character. I also love Moxton Hawking is the
- 15:26Orch Cakes as well, Like that was kind of funny too. So overall,
- 15:30like really really good match, really strong match, and it sets up
- 15:33Orch Cassidy for another strong run and the now can move mox Claudio and Wheeler
- 15:37over to the Black cool comback, I mean over the House of Black if
- 15:39you want to go that round One of my favorite things about professional wrestling is
- 15:43when you see an established star and there's no title that there is a title,
- 15:46whatever the case may be, is in the background, but you see
- 15:50an established star helping elevate a star that you feel like, as a wrestling
- 15:54fan, could use some elevation. You saw that with the Moxley Orange Cassidy
- 16:00feud. You see it later on with Hangman at a Page getting more out
- 16:04of Swerve Strickland. You're seeing it in WWE right now, like very subtly.
- 16:08One of my favorite things in wrestling right now is these random Becky Lynch
- 16:12feuds where she's feuding with Tiagan Knox, she's feuding with Lyra Valkyrie, she's
- 16:18feuding with Zaia Lee and elevating their games. And that's what Moxley did.
- 16:22I really enjoy that aspect of professional wrestling when these established stars helped put over
- 16:26new talent to create new stars, and that's like the circle of life per
- 16:32se in professional wrestling. That's what we saw this past Saturday night with John
- 16:36Moxley taking the l against Orange Cassidy. Next match here is timeless Tony Storm
- 16:41defeating Karloshita to win the aw Women's World Championship. We both had time with
- 16:45Tony Storm. I feel bad for Shida because her last two title reigns have
- 16:48been met, but the decision to put the title on Tony makes sense,
- 16:52as she has so much momento and popularity lately. The finish was clunky and
- 16:56the match was fine, but they had a tough act following Cassidy. You
- 17:00know, she tried to put that pan down her I can't believe I'm saying
- 17:03this down her pants to do the hip attack, and even the announcers were
- 17:07laughing because she was having like wardrobe malfunctions. And then she'd went in the
- 17:11corner. Tony went halfway, then went back and then did the hip attack.
- 17:15It was very clunky but timeless. Tony Storms our new aw Women's World
- 17:19Champion. Doctor Trey. Yeah, not to mention when when Aubrey's counting the
- 17:22pinfall, her head is literally eight inches from the plate coming out of Tony
- 17:27Storm's bridges, as a Tas alluded to on the call. Yeah, the
- 17:33match yourself was The match yourself was decent. It's just the finish got really
- 17:37clucking. Cat took it away, and you know, this is this is
- 17:41match and the response to Timeless Tony Storm is one of those things I point
- 17:45out to young wrestlers who don't like gimmicks Like Tony Storm. You and I
- 17:52loved her in the May Young Classic through entire run, and it's this gimmick
- 17:59that has get Hurt to another level. And then you look at some of
- 18:02the like the you know, some of the people, we're like, you
- 18:03know, we miss bray White. It was the bray White gimmick. They
- 18:07gotta bo I'm gonna take this gimmick. Gotamo with these these crazy gimmicks that
- 18:10can establish another depth of the character, helps elevate the game, and it
- 18:15stands out because it's so different from what everybody else is doing. So in
- 18:21a world like AW or in the Superindependence where everybody's five ten, one hundred
- 18:25and ninety five pounds, sometimes you got to think outside of the box to
- 18:27really get a good crowd response. So I applaud Tony Storm for taking a
- 18:32risk because it's such a divergent character for what she's done for pretty much her
- 18:37entire career. But she's making it work and it's being very very successful.
- 18:41So outside of the Klucky Fish, I'm just happy for Tony Storm. And
- 18:45getting this character over. Next match here was Ricky Starks and Big Bill defeating
- 18:48LFI FTR and The King of the Black Throne and a four way tag team
- 18:52match, retaining aw World Tag Team Championship. I'm Ricky Starks, a Big
- 18:56Bill dot Trade FDR great. My only negative feedback is I think rustling fans
- 19:02are spoiled with the amount of tag team ladder matches we have seen the last
- 19:06twenty to twenty five years, which makes it harder to do anything we haven't
- 19:08seen before. Nonetheless, all eight men brought it and put on a great,
- 19:12heart hitting show for the fans on Saturday night. Ricky Stark's a Big
- 19:15Bell retaining made sense to me because then they needed a win like this for
- 19:19their title rate to continue growing. Doctor Trey, your thoughts on the fatal
- 19:22four way ladder match, Yeah, it's it's you're getting into the spots and
- 19:27wrestling where you're like, is anything or like to me, the most original
- 19:30spot in the entire match was just Malachi Black flipping the ladder back in the
- 19:37in the cash wheeler, like I'm like, oh crap, I've never seen
- 19:40somebody use the rope kind of like in that manner to the springboard the ladder
- 19:42back into somebody you know, but like you know, you see Brody Kane
- 19:47do that big godz obamb of Dealstico on the ladder and you're just like,
- 19:51eh, that look gruff. It's like we are kind of spoiled as to
- 19:56what we've seen over the last you know, twenty years when it comes the
- 19:59ladder matches. I mean the ladder match was it was good, it was
- 20:03solid, it was fun, it was entertaining. It works for Ricky Starks
- 20:06in Big Bill, so, like you said, establish their tag team run.
- 20:10But as much as I like Ricky Starks in Big Bill, I mean,
- 20:15given what happens later in the show, is is a Golden Jet Ricky
- 20:19Stark Big Bill match like a money drawing match? Yet I don't know.
- 20:23So that's that was kind of why I was leaning towards FDR, just because
- 20:26I thought that would be a bigger draw for the tag team division, but
- 20:30because I don't I don't really know if you need to keep building up new
- 20:33tag teams when you have so much depth in your tag team division. I
- 20:37guess it's kind of my thought process. I think at times the tag team
- 20:41division doesn't actually get executed correctly in my mind, Yeah, I mean,
- 20:45I mean when you look at you look at the card. I mean you
- 20:48like, in the last couple of shows, I mean you've had MTF beat
- 20:52an established tag team. You dow had MTF and Samoa Joe beat an established
- 20:56tag team, Omega and Jericho being established tag team, Ricky Stars and Big
- 21:02Bill beat three established tag teams. So these are a lot of these single
- 21:06stars being meshed together, and you're kind of diluting your tag team talent by
- 21:11doing so. So as much talent as they have, it's these single stars
- 21:17thrown together that are kind of dominating the division right now. Next match here
- 21:21is Julia Hart defeating Chris Statlander and sky Blue in a triple threat match to
- 21:25win the AWTBS Championship. Dot Trannon both had Julie Hard getting the victory.
- 21:30Solid triple threat match. Julia Hart and sky Blue have really raised their games
- 21:33and characters throughout the year, and Statlander, who is an established starr,
- 21:36helped get them over as equals. Again going back to what I said earlier
- 21:38in the show with Moxley and Lawrence Cassie. Another example this year with Chris
- 21:42Statlander working with sky Blue and Julia Hart. Julia Hart deserves the title as
- 21:48she has been very much improved in the ring, but I hate to see
- 21:49it come at the hands of Chris Statlander. Maybe this means stat Lander shifts
- 21:53are focused on the aw Women's World Championship coming out of this, as she
- 21:56didn't take the pin and a Julia Hart sky Blue feud continues forward, Doctor
- 22:03Trey, we have a new AWTBS champion and it's Julia Hart. Yeah,
- 22:07really happy for I thought the triple threat match was solid. I just I
- 22:11don't know. There are points this match where I thought it was like three
- 22:12versions of Rhea Ripley fighting each other. I guess, like everybody wants to
- 22:18be Gothic or just a badass right now. So like and I was trying
- 22:22to figure out the whole You're still trying to figure out the story between sky
- 22:25Blue and Julia Hart as well. So I'm with you. I think they
- 22:30should move stat Lander up into the main women's picture. Let Julia Hart,
- 22:33sky Blue, Willow Nightingale, Red, Velvet Green, Jello, anybody else
- 22:38in the vision that they want to throw in there that has a color food
- 22:41theme as well. Let them battle it out, let them kind of sort
- 22:45their characters out, because to me, the TBS title is your Women's Proving
- 22:48Ground Championship and then to move them up into the main picture. So but
- 22:52yeah, I'm really happy for Julia Hart because she may have progressed farther in
- 22:57a year than I have ever seen any other female wrestler do. Like she
- 23:02was god awful with Brian Pillman and Griff Garrison and now I actually enjoy watching
- 23:07her work a match. So that's just tremendous progress in twelve to eighteen months
- 23:14I've seen somebody do. Oh, she's been fantastic, one of the best
- 23:18Moon salts. I like the submission finisher they have there. What is that?
- 23:23Is it? Heartless? Heartless? Yes? Yeah, I mean that's
- 23:26a great like it's a almost looks like a Rings of Saturn type submission.
- 23:32Yeah, she's been really well improved. I'm very happy for Julia Hart winning
- 23:36the AWTVS Championship because she deserves it. She's been really really good the last
- 23:40couple of months. Newly married also yeah, Lee Johnson, right, yeah,
- 23:44yeah, somebody that I've worked a show with got to marry Julia Hart.
- 23:48So LEO. Part of me is a little sad. Hey you never
- 23:52know does try next match? Here is Swerve Strickland defeat and Hangman Adam Page
- 23:56in a Texas death match. We both had Hagman Adam paid to get the
- 24:00victory. Doctor Trey, what do you say about this one? It's a
- 24:03brutal, violent, legendary masterpiece, A top match in twenty twenty three,
- 24:10one of the most memorable AW matches since its inception. This feud has been
- 24:14short but extremely good. I didn't think Swerve Strickland could elevate his game,
- 24:18but then he does it again and again and again, and then does it
- 24:22again. Amazing performance by both men. Have put themselves through that type of
- 24:26human mutilation and punishment all for wrestling fans entertainment. There are several spots we
- 24:32could sit here and go I can't believe they did this. I can't believe
- 24:36they did that. Hangman Page drinking the blood, the barricade, pile driver
- 24:41Spot, pouring water over each of their heads so that the blood just like
- 24:47dripped like crazy off of their heads. What a match, Doctor Trey.
- 24:52Swerve Strickland, Hangman had a Page. If they don't get a standing ovation
- 24:56on Dynamite on Wednesday night. Then I don't know what's wrong with this wrestling
- 24:59fan them? Can this be Few to the year already? I mean,
- 25:03it's like jumped up so much. I mean in a short amount of time.
- 25:11I mean, I don't know if we've ever seen a few go from
- 25:14like zero to a thousand this quickly. I mean, and even even the
- 25:18even the Wrestle Dream match what maybe what didn't have the blood but was so
- 25:23hard hitting and so just action packed like these guys. The chemistry these two
- 25:29have pull off in such a short amount of time is incredible. I was
- 25:33waiting to hear your evaluation of the match because I've seen people knock this match
- 25:37because of the one spot, and I'm like, you take out the blood
- 25:42drinking spot, which I mean for all for health reasons, maybe isn't the
- 25:48best thing in the world, but you know this match is not good for
- 25:52health reasons, doctor try yeah, But you know, like everything else in
- 25:56this match was like incredible and hard hitting and you could feel the intensity.
- 26:02And you know, my only knock on this match wasn't even the bloodering spot.
- 26:07By the my knockings match is if either of these guys ever lose a
- 26:08match, cleanly in under twelve minutes. I'm gonna be like, what the
- 26:12hell, Like you've got staple barbed wired like you know, pile driven on
- 26:18a guard rail, took three buckshot lariats in a top rope detta Like you
- 26:23took all these things, they still kept fitting up and you know you're gonna
- 26:27get schoolboy Robot can't kick out, Like but you haven't. These guys better
- 26:32lose when he makes like four or five months Like It's just it was that
- 26:36level of almost insanity. It's like I I it's redefined the genre of what
- 26:44death I don't say death match wrestling because I don't put it in the same
- 26:48grouping as like some of those GCW guys do, like the God Bless Him.
- 26:55I love the death He's a good friend of mine, John White,
- 26:56Burdock's in the world and Nick gage Is. I don't classify this match in
- 27:02that light. To me, this is the old school versions of like the
- 27:07Dusty Rose totally blanded, I quit matches and just with a modern twist on
- 27:12it. Like it was brutal, it was physical, You felt the intensity.
- 27:18It suspended your disbelief because you wanted to see Hangman beat the hell at
- 27:22a swerve for the home invasion Agle, Like all the stuff came together and
- 27:26like this little perfect storm for this match, and I the part of me
- 27:30worries that it may be remembered for the blood drinking spot and not the intensity
- 27:36and the violence of the tortality that the other you know, twenty seven minutes
- 27:41of smash brought. Yeah, this is it's a memorable match. Yeah,
- 27:48does it get It gets brutal, right, it gets violent, and sometimes
- 27:52AW pushes the envelope a little bit too much, but I think you just
- 27:56kind of come used to it, right. I'm It's not my type of
- 28:00wrestling, but I respect it a lot ultimately, and I respect this match
- 28:04and I do think it's a top match in twenty twenty three. See what's
- 28:10weird as you go back to was it mox Ley Omega when they had the
- 28:14uh the Pepaisan chair of barb Wire, you know, remether one to talk
- 28:18about like that spiral. Yeah, it's like those matches felt like they did
- 28:23shit for the sake of doing stuff, where this match, with the way
- 28:29they presented it with the homeanvaate. Look if some guy walked into my house
- 28:33while I was at work, and was standing over little Samy Franklin and talking
- 28:37shit like, yeah, I'm gonna try to kill the guy, and that
- 28:41match. Because of that angle, it led to this match, and it
- 28:44made sense. So the brutality was not for the sake of brutality, but
- 28:48it was brutality for the stake of the storyline. And it reminded me of
- 28:53those action movies where the bad guy kills you know, John Wick's dog and
- 28:57John Wick goes on a rampage or spoiler alert, we're supposed to do that.
- 29:02You know that, I know, but I think we're on John Wick
- 29:03six now, so I think it's okay to spoil one. Oh fair.
- 29:07But it's like it's those old school action movies where something the villain does something
- 29:11to the guy's family and that guy goes on a rampage that gives revenge.
- 29:17So it was it's violence and brutality for the sake of the story, which
- 29:21in this light makes sense, where some of these other death matches we've seen
- 29:25it's been brutality for the sake of brutality or violence for the sake of violence,
- 29:29which to me, it diminishes this genre. No, it's it's a
- 29:33fair, it's it's fair. I get what you're saying. It's fair.
- 29:38Still very memorable, memorable match. It reminds me of those old I Quip
- 29:42matches, the old bull Rump matches when there was a long, lengthy feud
- 29:47and this was the way to blow it off. And those guys made you
- 29:51feel like they were literally trying to kill each other because of all the crap
- 29:53they've done to each other building up to it. It's just this, they
- 29:56condensed it down to like a two month period instead of six months or nine
- 30:02months like we used to do back in the old AWA W c W.
- 30:07I'm the match was surprising. I thought the result was more surprising. I
- 30:11did not foresee Swerve Strickland going to Zo on Hangman page in this feud.
- 30:15No, I really didn't either, especially when it's a Texas death match.
- 30:18But then, you know, getting Brian Cage involved, getting No involved kind
- 30:23of helped sell the finish because Nagas say they like Swerve one because of the
- 30:30help of Nana in Cage and it doesn't diminish Hangman too much. And then
- 30:37Hangman getting hung to finish the match was kind of cool as well. Mm
- 30:42hmm. Yeah, really well, really well done match for Strickland defeating Hangman
- 30:47Adam Page. Next match, year's the Golden Jets of feeding the Young Bucks
- 30:51as they get the Young Bucks aw tag team title shot. We both have
- 30:53thek Golden Jets getting the victory. Good storytelling throughout this match. They had
- 30:56a tough act to follow with Swerve and Hangman and did a good job.
- 31:00Still, I'm interest to see where things go with the Young Bucks after their
- 31:03post match meltdown. As reporters are staying there do for a heel turn along
- 31:07with Brandon Cutler, who has been their mouthpiece online since the match took place,
- 31:11and one on other one other unnamed personality, uh doctor, try the
- 31:15gold and Jets get the victory. Yeah, not to me, This was
- 31:19not a surprising finish, although I do like my storyline idea that the Kenny
- 31:26and Chris would just tag up at random Canadian shows and then the Bucks were
- 31:30like searching the Internet to try to find videos so they can take him to
- 31:33Quarter or something for it. But yeah, like, I don't know,
- 31:37the match was good, but maybe as expecting a little bit more because it
- 31:41is four of the best wrestlers in the world. I thought it was I
- 31:47thought it was good, but maybe I was just thing a little bit more.
- 31:49But having Dog calls on commentary also helped because he's like, You're like,
- 31:55just say to the guy, You're like, yeah, I really just
- 31:56want anybody to win other than Doug Kallaus. So I thought it was good
- 32:00and it'll be interesting for progressing because there's you know, when when does Kenny
- 32:06and Chris cash in, it does callous cost of the tag bells or is
- 32:09callous at starts at Big Bill into the Doug Kallas family because he does like
- 32:14he taking on uh people, parked Tide in that family role as well.
- 32:20And then finally here the main event, MJF defeats Jay White to win the
- 32:23AW World Championship. MGF was our pick for both from both of us in
- 32:28this match. I really enjoyed how the storyline played out from the zero hour
- 32:31pre show throughout the show up until the main event, with the MGF injury
- 32:35angle and Adam Cole filling in. At one point it was changed to Adam
- 32:37Cole versus Jay White, which was a nice little touch. The match itself
- 32:43was slow building, but the final ten minutes were really good. It's funny
- 32:45to see MGF acting like an eighties baby face at times, but he overcomes
- 32:49adversity by going back to his scumbag ways by cheating with the dynamite diamond ring
- 32:53to get the pin on Jay White. MGF reportedly hurt his shoulder and also
- 33:00dislocated his hip that needed to be popped back in after the failed announce your
- 33:05table spot elbow dropped from the top rope. Do't try your thoughts here.
- 33:09MJF defeats Jay White to retain the aw World Championship. So the matches up.
- 33:16When you said disokay, I thought you were saying he dislocated the pre
- 33:19show out when he did hit the recruit hip gride, like that would be
- 33:22a great way. Like it's like it the way an old lady pops a
- 33:24hip, you know she us emulated recruited. The hip just goes out.
- 33:28But like the matches up. I thought it was great old school storytelling,
- 33:30like you have an injury, you're selling the injury. I do like this
- 33:35weird, Like half the match, MJF is whole Cogan and then the second
- 33:40half of the match he turns into Rick Clair, Like yeah, the eighties
- 33:44baby face and then the eighties scumbag heel. By the end, it's like
- 33:49it's almost like he's having this like devil in Angel battle on his shoulders,
- 33:53deciding how he wins the match. The only thing I didn't like was the
- 33:58Adam Cole like, oh, we're gonna have an Adam Cole j White match,
- 34:02Like I didn't think you needed to do that, Like you could have.
- 34:06You could have done it mister Miyagi Daniel LaRusso style, where like you
- 34:09know they're about to award the belt to Jay White and you know, Adam
- 34:14Cole comes rushing out and like, no, m JFF wants to fight.
- 34:17M JFF wants to fight, and JAFF wants to fight, and you could
- 34:21have done that whole thing. It would tied into the eighties thingue. But
- 34:23like the illusion that you were to have Adam Cole actually get into a match
- 34:28I thought was kind of just dumb. And why the heck if he's getting
- 34:32into the ring, is britt Baker not running out to protect her husband from
- 34:36doing something so stupid us well, fiance, no, not even doctor Tree.
- 34:42We've been down this road. We've tried talking to Adam about this.
- 34:45Oh I missed it, My bad. Now this is awkward. I hope
- 34:50she's not listening. No, no, Nonetheless, M Jeff retains and it's
- 34:54still the EWE World Champion. I went seven and two, Doctor treit went
- 34:59seven two. In our predictions, I'm at one fifteen and forty one Doctor
- 35:02Trey, one O eight and forty eight. Event rating match the night I
- 35:07gave full gear of four point three. I thought it was a very very
- 35:09solid and fun and entertaining show. And my match the night Doctor Tray Swart
- 35:14Strickling hanging out a page I was at. I was at a four to
- 35:17four, so I was a little bit ahead of you. And the only
- 35:21reason I didn't go higher was because after four and a half almost five hours,
- 35:23I was kind of burning out. Yeah no, rightfully, So I
- 35:28mean, how is it zero hour? If it last ninety minutes, it's
- 35:32not an hour, then it's zero ninety or whatever. But yeah, my
- 35:37imagine that I was also Swerve in the Hangman page. That's that's gonna be
- 35:40like when we have great pay per views, there's always that one match that's
- 35:44going to stand out and will remember this match at five or ten years,
- 35:47which makes it stand out even more. Yeah, No, it was.
- 35:51It was amazing to both of us giving the show very high hopes. You
- 35:54know what's funny about everything, Doctor Trey collectively. I want to go back
- 35:58to what I said in the beginning of the show, where I want to
- 36:00give AW their flowers that I thought this was one of the best creatively built
- 36:04shows that they've done in a while, and it showed, and then it
- 36:07was executed very well on Saturday Night, which obviously gets you excited with AW
- 36:13because it's had its peaks and valleys throughout all of twenty twenty three, and
- 36:16hopefully they continue to ride this wave because last couple of shows that they've done
- 36:21for paper views have been very good from all out, all in Wrestle Dream,
- 36:24Full Gear. I think Full Gear to me is probably their best show
- 36:30that I've seen in twenty twenty three. Actually, I'm gonna check real quick
- 36:34if that actually is. I know it's my highest rated one Revolution was four
- 36:39point two three point nine from You and I, three point six to three
- 36:43point seven for Ben Door, four point zero three point eight all In,
- 36:46four point four from me, four point one from you All Out, three
- 36:51point nine from me, four point one from you, four point one,
- 36:53four point two from Wressel Dream and so Full Gear is your highest rate show
- 37:00and mine is still aw all in which which doesn't make sense. I did
- 37:06love that show, but Full Gear to me is like neck and neck with
- 37:08that show. Yeah, it just I just feel like they had a really
- 37:15good creative build towards it. But here's the conundrum I have to wrap this
- 37:21all up with Full Gear is I thought Dynamite and Collision and Rampage shows like
- 37:27individually or whatever, like they lack the enthusiasm and the excitement that they used
- 37:36to have, which makes those shows like at times hard to go through.
- 37:39But then there's like these little subtleties and it builds to a bigger story which
- 37:43then leads to the pay per view very well. But I just feel like
- 37:45Dynamite, Rampage Collision have not been that great lately, which is kind of
- 37:51strange because the creative going to the show made sense. The show is well
- 37:54executed, the pay per views have been very well executed, but the weekly
- 37:58programming to me kind kind of isn't where I'd like it to be as an
- 38:01AW fan. Does that make sense? Yeah, because I think one of
- 38:05my issues with the TV shows is they're not built like TV shows like there's
- 38:10not the cliffhanger, there's not the the reason to tune in, Like where
- 38:16they place the matches on the TV shows doesn't really match where they're going to
- 38:22place it on the pay per view card, and they don't put the same
- 38:29behind like ww's first match of the night or their main event or use their
- 38:32two biggest matches. It's usually one of the world title matches kicking off the
- 38:36show and then the other one's closing the show. So when they build those
- 38:38shows those shows, those matches are still featured in the main event of their
- 38:44respective shows, and so you understand the importance behind it, where you know,
- 38:49you may have the MJF segment you know early in the show, and
- 38:53then when you get to the you know therese like, well it is the
- 38:57MJF stuff with Roderick and Adam, and they white more important or less important.
- 39:01If you have Tony Storm and Hikishida closing out of store, like their
- 39:07structure is still in flux with their television shows, and then it kind of
- 39:12lessens the importance because with RAW or Smacked Down or NXT, there's like a
- 39:16build up to get to the close of the show, whereas think sometimes ADEW
- 39:22almost books it backwards, where they're starting high and then finishing low, if
- 39:25that makes sense. No, I hear what you're saying. Yeah, I
- 39:30think if they got the weekly programming a little bit more fine tuned, I
- 39:34think AW would be rolling again. But I will say late twenty twenty three,
- 39:38there should be a huge optimism right now that twenty twenty four will be
- 39:43a banner year for AW in my opinion, and more importantly so, one
- 39:47maybe two names are off that free agent wire now and signed to All Elite,
- 39:53which twenty twenty four is supposed to be a big year for professional wrestling
- 39:57signings, and AW has already gotten a jump. As we talked about in
- 40:01last weeks show, who will be that blockbuster signing? We felt that it
- 40:06was going, you know, will Ospray would be the signing that we would
- 40:08want to see. We felt like it would ultimately not be Will Ospray because
- 40:13he was due to be a free agent in February twenty twenty four. We
- 40:16felt like it would be Sammy Callahan. Instead. We got the twenty twenty
- 40:22four free agency wire and professional wrestling going a bit early, as Will Ospray
- 40:25is in fact All Elite Doctor Trey. He has signed a three year deal
- 40:30with the company. He will wrap up in New Japan in February twenty twenty
- 40:34four and then be All Elite. Will be based out of the UK during
- 40:37this time, which Pac also does, and he will be a weekly contributor
- 40:42to All Elite Wrestling for the next three years. To me, he is
- 40:44one of the best professional wrestlers on the planet right now. This is a
- 40:47huge get and a huge signing for All Elite Wrestling Doctor Trey. So I
- 40:52simply ask you in regard to the signing, did AW have an edge or
- 40:55is the WWE business model flawed for these big signings. AW they have the
- 41:01forbidden door. It gives wrestlers an opportunity to form a relationship with AW.
- 41:06The schedule in AW is more wrestler friendly than WWE. They have signed some
- 41:10big names over the years here, Jay White earlier this year. Now will
- 41:15Ospray is the AW business model when it comes to these big signings better and
- 41:22making the WA business model flawed for the big signings. If you're going off
- 41:29of do I want to sign with AW based on just what they do?
- 41:32Yeah? Probably because the schedules a lot lighter the pay is comparable, that's
- 41:39more guaranteed, and not hey at your merchandise sales factor into it. Things
- 41:45like that like w does like a lot of their guys. If I was
- 41:51going off like structuring my career, I'd still probably lean WE BUD if I.
- 41:54If I'm a guy that's in my mid you know, mid thirties looking
- 41:59to really establish myself and make a home. AWS a great place to start
- 42:04because I don't have to bump as much, I don't have to work as
- 42:07much, and I can still make really really good money and still be featured
- 42:09on multiple shows. So and when it comes to signing guys, they do
- 42:15have an edge because I'm pretty sure if a if WB went to will Ospray
- 42:19to offer a contract knowing that he was still under contract New Japana falla lawsuits
- 42:24with having that working relationship with AW I think aw can ask permission and they
- 42:30can negotiate in good faith. So aw Wood comes with things like that is
- 42:36going to have an edge on WWE when it comes to signing those international talents
- 42:39that filter through New Japan. Yeah, it seems like they had a very
- 42:44big edge for will Ospray. The rumors of will Ospray potentially going to WWE
- 42:47had picked up in the last month. We had me very intrigued. Heading
- 42:51in twenty twenty four. I felt like he made the right decision, Will
- 42:54Ospray to go all elite wrestling. He knows what it's like there. He
- 42:59has perform there plenty of times now, and I think he'll be a great
- 43:02addition to their roster. And actually I thought Dave Meltzer made a really good
- 43:08point in one of his reports that AW can offer Will Ospray an opportunity to
- 43:15be a world champion in twenty twenty four, something WWE cannot do. Probably
- 43:19in twenty twenty four, also all lead Wrestling heading into Wembley Stadium in the
- 43:23home backyard of Will lost Bray. I mean, let's put it down now.
- 43:27If you don't think Will Osprey is in some sort of world title match
- 43:30it all in in August twenty twenty four, I think you're out of your
- 43:34mind. And the only way that doesn't happen is if God forbid he gets
- 43:36hurt and is unavailable to perform that night. I would fully expect that Will
- 43:39Ospray is an AW world champion in twenty twenty four. This is a huge
- 43:43signing, huge get for them, great move for him to be performing in
- 43:46the United States promotions, and he still gets to have a relationship with the
- 43:50New Japan a little bit as well. So one big name down for twenty
- 43:55twenty four and another may be down for twenty twenty four as well as According
- 44:01to reports from Wrestling Hass, several w RE sources, have you never heard
- 44:07of that? No, I've never heard of wrestling Haws, But now it's
- 44:10going on my list of people check on. Yeah. No, no,
- 44:14they they do a really good The name is escaping me right now. Nick
- 44:19Cosman, he used to be a wrestling ink. Now he's opened up his
- 44:22own website, a Hoss of Wrestling. Okay, I just see. I
- 44:27was just picturing some big fat country red bag wrestlin Hoss Wrestling Hass. Okay,
- 44:34yeah, So House of Wrestling has said that several w RE sources believe
- 44:39MJF has quietly re signed with AW one higher up w source data that have
- 44:45been quote zero talks between the two sides. They further noted that the idea
- 44:49MGF is said to enter free agency imminently is a quote false narrative, and
- 44:53that they believe he has resigned into twenty twenty seven. I'm not surprised by
- 44:59this doctor Trey based on the way that he has been booked. I did
- 45:02feel like that everybody gunning for him could be leading towards maybe an exit from
- 45:07the company. He wasn't involved in any of the all in promotion promotional material
- 45:14for twenty twenty four where hes got people's spider sense is tingling a little bit.
- 45:17But I think you hear him in interviews and he's, you know,
- 45:22breaking a lot of kfabe and talking about how much he loves and appreciates all
- 45:24elite wrestling and how he wants to be the guy for the company, and
- 45:30it appears he is staying there, and this move surprises me. I think
- 45:36MJF is a WWE talent in an aw ring. He fits that Cody Rhodes,
- 45:42Jade Cargill, mold and mentality. I figured a guy like him,
- 45:49a guy like Ricky Starks, would also thrive in w WI and kind of
- 45:52would like the environment more. So this move is surprising, and that's of
- 46:00and it's also unfortunate because I thought the bidding war of twenty twenty four is
- 46:06gonna be a lot of fun. Yeah, they're like, on one hand,
- 46:09I am surprised because you know, why would I. It's like you
- 46:15and I are big baseball fans and you get that hot prospect who finally makes
- 46:17his debut with you know, the major league club, and then you find
- 46:22out he signed a you know, eight year contract that's gonna be wave alow
- 46:25market value, and you're like, dude, why didn't you just stick to
- 46:29you know, stick it out to the end of your contract. You can
- 46:30have maximized it. But then the flip side's true as well, where you
- 46:36get that guy who comes up to your system, you love him, you've
- 46:39bonded with him, and then all of a sudden he jumps to the Red
- 46:43Sox because they're gonna offer him two million more a year, and then you're
- 46:46like, what happened to loyalty? It's one of those weird things, like
- 46:49you look at a guy like m dam who kind of came not really out
- 46:52of nowhere on the independence, like he had a day, but he's grown
- 46:58in aw and he's sentence at the top of the ladder. So on the
- 47:02one hand, a guy like me would go, hey, stick it out
- 47:05for a few more months. Maximize your leverage, you get the best deal
- 47:08possible for you. But you know the other side is, look, this
- 47:12company invested in you and showing loyalty to you and let you be as creative
- 47:19as you've wanted to be, and you know you taking the deal shows your
- 47:24loyalty back to them. So it's almost like a damn if you do,
- 47:29damned if you don't. Because either way, if he had jumped at WV,
- 47:32people would be like, oh, how dare he leave AW for all
- 47:35the stuff they did for him? And then he says, you guys like
- 47:38you and me are like, he's probably a better fit in the WWE universe
- 47:44because MJF is a sports entertainer more than anything else, and he would be
- 47:47maximized to his best abilities. But you've got to give the kid credit for
- 47:53loyalty. And I mean is one of his best friends is Cody Rohase.
- 47:57He could have gone there and had a G eight spots, but he stayed
- 48:01loyal to Tony Kahan and showed you got faith in me, I got faith
- 48:06in you. So you have to give the kid credit for loyalty at least.
- 48:08No, I absolutely do. I do appreciate the loyalty there, and
- 48:14yeah, I mean I think this move works out very well for him obviously.
- 48:16It's just it's just a little bit surprising. And by the way,
- 48:20not to mention if it's only a three year deal. No, no,
- 48:22it's it's a four Well you're right, yeah, because I'm thinking twenty twenty
- 48:27three still, but yeah, it's a three year deal. It was a
- 48:29three year deal. Guess what, mjf's only twenty eight or twenty nine.
- 48:32When that contract's up, he could hit free agency again and then me hitting
- 48:39his prime. I mean when w BE comes a colleague. So it's not
- 48:45like this is his last contract. This is a chance for him to kind
- 48:47of No, I agree with you. But he's also said in interviews,
- 48:52which I do believe was not in character, that he is not looking to
- 48:55be in professional wrestling rather long either. I think he is looking at Holly
- 49:00Wood. Yeah, but then you look at you look at the Cody rosipproach
- 49:04where it's like, hey, let me take one shot at w B and
- 49:07see how it goes. Because if you want to go to Hollywood, WW
- 49:10is probably a better vehicle than AEW. So, I mean, like I
- 49:16said, he is twenty nine years old, he can sign a three year
- 49:19deal with WWEB thirty two if the end of that deal, and then decide
- 49:22if he wants to stay in wrestling, go back to AW or go into
- 49:25Hollywood. So he'd be he's in a great position no matter what because he's
- 49:32gonna have money, he's gonna have leverage and everything else. Like this kid's
- 49:37basically got He's basically like right now the Golden Goosa Professional Wrestling. I think
- 49:40for me as a baseball fan, here we are mid November baseball fans.
- 49:45We love the hot stove, love seeing where free agent science are going to
- 49:50go. And for the first time that I could ever remember professional wrestling history,
- 49:52it was looking like twenty twenty four was going to be a huge hot
- 49:55stole for professional wrestling. And now like arguably two of the biggest names,
- 50:00if not the two biggest names, are now off the radar with will Osbury
- 50:07signing with AW and reportedly mjf Re signing with AW. So we'll see heading
- 50:13twenty twenty four if it ever lives up to that hot soap potential that everybody's
- 50:16getting hyped up for because we had never seen this, especially with the way
- 50:21that the Internet ages and you know there was no like in ninety seven,
- 50:25two thousand and one. It wasn't. The internet wasn't what it is now.
- 50:29And I think to have that type of information at your fringing tips with
- 50:34news reporting and podcasting and this person go there, do they go here?
- 50:38And whining and dining and all good stuff would have been cool and different to
- 50:44say. Nonetheless, let's get into w Survivers Series War Games preview predictions.
- 50:49It comes to us this Saturday from the All State Arena in Rosemont, Illinois,
- 50:52will preview predict here the five matches, and then we will announce the
- 50:57holiday schedule and then let you go be on your merry way for your things
- 51:00skiving holiday. Here on this week's edition of SRTU Doc Trey, let's get
- 51:04to the first match here, Carlito taking on Santos Escobar, which is announced
- 51:07on Friday Night's Backdown. I like that these guys are getting the opportunity to
- 51:09perform. I'm gonna take Santos Escobar in this one. Who do you like?
- 51:15Yeah, I'm taking Santos Escobar with Cruise and Joaquin turning on the lwoo.
- 51:21Yeah, I'm with you on that. I like that's the rumors right
- 51:22now, there's gonna be like these separate factions, and I do feel like
- 51:27legato'dell Phantasma reunites. Here. Are we gonna get l w O red and
- 51:32LWO green? Yeah? I think so? Why not? Right? Yeah?
- 51:37Read and grew. Well, there's the Sometimes they're blue and red for
- 51:42the Puerto Rican flag. Sometimes they're red, white and green for the Mexico
- 51:45flag. There you go, gun Through Defensie Intercontinental Championship against the Miz Doctor
- 51:50Trey. Who do you like this one? I love the Mis, but
- 51:52I'm taking gun there to retain I am as well. But I think this
- 51:57is a match that the Miz earns Gunther's respect and support. I think that's
- 52:01the storyline heading in this one, and that's how I think it plays out
- 52:05true, where at the end of the match, Gunther is like pleased and
- 52:08respects the Miz at the end of it. Yeah, I did like the
- 52:13whole Like, I know I'm not fighting the Miss. I know I'm fighting
- 52:15Mike Mizana line from Raw the other night. Yeah No, there was a
- 52:19really good promo between the two guys. Next match year is Riea Ripley defending
- 52:22the Women's World Championship against Zoe Stark. I'm going to take Ria Ripley to
- 52:25retain. Yeah, I really want to pick Zoe and I think in a
- 52:30year this is where Zoe. I think a year from now Zoe wins this
- 52:32match, but right now I'm taking to Reea Ripley to retain as well.
- 52:36Next match year is the Women's War Games. Match is Bianca Bella, Charlotte
- 52:38Flairer, Shatzi, and Becky Lynch take on Damage Control Bailey, EO Sky,
- 52:43Oscar and Kyrie. Saying Tree, who do you like this one?
- 52:45I'm taking Shatzis, Charlotte, Becky and uh Bianca uh man that they have
- 52:52more name power. Plus I think this is where the rest of Damage Controlled
- 52:57kicks Bailey out coming out of this match. Yeah, that I'm taking Bianca,
- 53:01Charlotte, Shotsy and Becky as well, and I'm with you. I
- 53:04think that's the storyline in this one, is that this leads to Bailey being
- 53:07kicked out of Damage Control, which will be strange that she will be back
- 53:10as a babyface, possibly Doctor Trey. Yeah, and then it's a question
- 53:15of does Dakota stay with EO, Osca and Kyrie or does she get kicked
- 53:21out as well because she's injured. It's hard to kick somebody out who's injured,
- 53:23but then it's hard. She then becomes the fourth wheel in a sense,
- 53:29like one of these is not like the other three. So it's to
- 53:32be interesting what they do with Zakota Kai. I think she stays because she's
- 53:36kind of in their mouthpiece, so I could see that role being played out
- 53:38as she recovers some injury. I think to up your question is, does
- 53:43Bailey return to be the hugger? Ooh, maybe the high fiber. I
- 53:47don't know, but now that looks like you can get Bailey, Charlotte and
- 53:52Becky against EO, Kyrie and Oscar, which would be really really entertating few
- 53:57as well, or or Bianca Charlott, It and ba I think you're still
- 54:01go to end up a Bianca, end up a Jade at some point like
- 54:05this, Oh yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. I thought
- 54:07they were kind of teasing the whole Bailey hugger stuff because they all hugged on
- 54:10SmackDown and she said, I don't do this anymore, all right, haven't
- 54:14done it in a long time. And I was like, hmm, they
- 54:15got my Spider Sense tingling next batch here Men's Wargames match could Road Seth,
- 54:21Freaking Ronalds, Jay Uzo, Sammy Zay and they returning Randy Orton take on
- 54:27the Judgment Day Damian Priest, Finvaler, Dirty Dominic, Mysterio and JD McDonough,
- 54:30who are also joined by Drew McIntyre who is not part of the Judgment
- 54:34Day Doctor Trey, I will start on this one. I'm gonna take Cody,
- 54:37Seth, Jay, Sammy and Randy Orton winning this, and I foresee
- 54:42that this starts the cracks in the Judgment Day where they begin similar to the
- 54:47match we just discussed on the verge of kicking out Damian Priests and maybe he
- 54:52gets replaced by an eventual Drew McIntyre. So I've team Cody, Seth,
- 54:57Jay, Sammy and Randy Orton won in this one. See, I have
- 55:00a hard time with them because I picked the baby faces in the women's match,
- 55:04and typically they try to do one surprise. So I think I'll take
- 55:08Judgment Day because Drew turning is the cool new thing, even though Randy returnings
- 55:14up there, but I think I'll take I think I'll take Judgment Day just
- 55:17because like, I can't have two babyface teams win at Wargames, so I'll
- 55:22take Judgment day either win. Now, I hear you. I had a
- 55:24tough time making that call as well, but I gotta be different from you
- 55:29on least one match. Fair enough, fair enough. We will recap and
- 55:32review WW Survivor Series war Games on next week's edition of SRTU on November thirtieth.
- 55:38Speaking of upcoming editions of SRTU, we always do this on the Thanksgiving
- 55:43Said Special, the holiday schedule announcement Thursday December twenty first, our traditional we
- 55:50look back at our twenty twenty three Both Prediction Special Thursday December the twenty eighth.
- 55:55It is the last show of twenty twenty three, which is our annual
- 55:59two thousand, twenty three SRT Award Show Special, and then we kick off
- 56:02twenty twenty four on Thursday January fourth with our twenty twenty four Wrestling Preview show.
- 56:09I know aw World's End is going on during the SRT Award Show and
- 56:15the wrestling preview show, Doctor Trey and I will talk about this off air
- 56:22a little bit, but I have a feeling that we'll probably do either some
- 56:24sort of quick bonus editions of the podcast where we preview the show and then
- 56:29maybe predict it during the holiday schedule, or we may just throw them up
- 56:32on the Facebook and Twitter feeds of what our predictions are and then recap them
- 56:37at a later time after the wrestling preview show. So there you go,
- 56:40Doctor Trey. The holiday schedule has been announced. It's going to be here
- 56:45in less than four weeks, which is wild to think about. My friend,
- 56:50Yeah, it's weird, like this is the I don't know you like,
- 56:52this feels like the first normal year we've had in quite a while.
- 56:57Like in previous years they kind of like it becomes of the pandemic. It
- 57:00kind of felt like it made me drugged through a little longer. Twenty twenty
- 57:05three kind of flew by, So I guess this is also the showing that,
- 57:09hey, we're actually kind of back to normal now. But holiday schedule
- 57:15our favorite time of year because everybody knows how much I hate the Bull Prediction
- 57:19shows and I hate the recap from the Bull Prediction show, So looking forward
- 57:23to see how stupid I said it last year and how idiotic I'll be coming
- 57:27into twenty twenty four. Every year, I always enjoy When Doctor Trey brings
- 57:30up that he sounds like a redneck Termit the Frog. I mean, it's
- 57:34such a contrasting styles that I'm like, Wow, I did not see that
- 57:38one coming, but he catches me. Every time holiday schedule is upon us,
- 57:43folks, it's only a matter of weeks, which is insane. But
- 57:45twenty twenty three is coming to a close here in the next four to five
- 57:50weeks. Would that said, let's get a couple of plugs in spots out
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- 58:06Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at the Doctor Tray, And of course don't
- 58:09forget to follow a show on X at SRTU podcast. With that being said,
- 58:14what is going on in the one for world of Doctor tre Franklin this
- 58:16week? Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on X at
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- 58:23When you're on Facebook, check out Rocke City Championship Wrestling and Spartan Championship
- 58:28Wrestling to the shows I work with here in Alabama. As December second,
- 58:31Jeff is the seven year anniversary show of Rocket City Championship Wrestling, So we
- 58:37talk about time flying by like I was here. We were doing the show
- 58:40when Rocket City launched, and now we're hitting the seven year anniversary. So
- 58:45December second, seven year anniversion, which also means the Rocket City Rumble will
- 58:49be right around the first of January, which is also one of our favorite
- 58:52shows the year because dear Lord, we've had cameraman, crowd people, ballets,
- 58:59just everybody in the world has jumped into a rouble at one point or
- 59:01the other. I mean Conrad Top and Tons Shiovanni have come down and watched
- 59:05the Rubble. So it's one of our favorite shows of the year. So
- 59:07that was just coming up first of January. So seven years of Rockett Championship
- 59:10Wrestling, thirteen years of the Still Realtor Show, and neither of us have
- 59:15died yet, So thank you. Yeah, there's not on wood. Not
- 59:19on wood. I'm very thankful for that to wrap it all up with that
- 59:22said, thank you for making this part of your week. Thank you for
- 59:25making this part of your Thanksgiving holiday week for all those that celebrated. To
- 59:30everybody celebrating Thanksgiving Holiday, Enjoy the holiday, Enjoy the time, Enjoy the
- 59:34food, Enjoy the fun, Enjoy the family, Enjoy the professional wrestling.
- 59:37Nonetheless until next week. For doctor Trey Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. This
- 59:44is the Still Real Toes Show.