#609: How To Summon A UAP with Matt Pines

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast · Apr 21, 2025 · 2h 14m

Marty sits down with Matt Pines to discuss Skywatcher's efforts to gather empirical data on UAPs.

Matt Pines on Twitter: https://x.com/matthew_pines

Skywatcher: https://skywatcher.ai

Bitcoin Policy Summit: https://www.btcpolicysummit.org/

0:00 - Intro

0:37 - US disclosure posture

9:09 - Skywatcher

17:13 - Fold & Coinkite

18:44 - How the data is collected

23:33 - Unchained

24:02 - What attracts UAPs

35:40 - Consciousness

54:27 - Govt psychics

57:54 - Geopolitical implications & triple hockey stick

1:10:41 - AI

1:17:41 - Will Trump build China Lite?

1:30:32 - Exopolitics

1:37:09 - Is bitcoin…