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I’M MORE OF A CHECKERS GUY! Solomon, Deadman Danny & Deadlock’s Increasing Kit Creep · Dadlock — A Deadlock Podcast for the Rest of Us

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Yarn, yarn, I'm bursting full of deadlock juice.
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It's leaking out of me. So much deadlock stuff
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is going on. I'm absolutely soaked. The worst
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intro imaginable. Well, there's a lot of stuff
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to talk about. You wanna hop in the van and get
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it started? Let's go, he's in the ignition. Yes,
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kids, get in the van! It is in fact October 14th
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2026 spooky season is upon us and there are two
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new characters in deadlock since last time we
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talked to the kids How you feeling yarn? Oh,
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I'm by the way, I'm Omni star And I'm joined
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by a man who clearly is in denial that he's lactose
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intolerant That's me, the fully lactose -able
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yard. You're saying you lactate? Is that what
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you're getting at? I said lactose -able. I'm
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able to eat lactose. And speaking about someone
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who's not calcium deficient, dead man Danny Solomon.
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I'm loving Solomon. I'm pretty lukewarm on our
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guy Danny. That's episode over. Credits roll.
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We're all allowed to be wrong about one of these
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characters, so this is yours. Now, keep in mind,
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not lukewarm on his whole vibe. His vibe is very
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good. Well, do you want to talk about Dead May
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Day first, or do you want to talk about Solomon?
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Because obviously, you know, Dead May Day just
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came out, so if we want to get into that first,
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we can get into it. Yeah, well, I mean, first
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off, I want to say Solomon is a character that
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puts things on the ground, right? I'm listening.
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And then... Deadman Danny is a character who
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never touches the ground. So obviously if I like
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Solomon I therefore Hate Deadman Danny. They're
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a match made in hell. Yes. Yes. Not well one
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of them just doesn't interact with the other
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ones damage at all with the way that the deadlock
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gods intended I guess but uh Solomon's so great.
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He's so interesting. He's like he's like a more
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methodical McGinnis mixed with a page kind of
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because he's doing a lot of this like oh he puts
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out his little support kind of he puts out his
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turret that he's able to use methodically and
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intentionally but then he also has these kind
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of page things where he's like he's just like
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a better page in a lot of ways I feel because
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his his armor that he or his little bubble that
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he gives to himself or other people is better.
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It also gives you the dynamo move of being able
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to stop damage coming in. You can dodge a bunch
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of ults. I think that his skill ceiling is honestly
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not as high as a lot of people have been saying.
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I think that he plays a lot like Paige to me.
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I think my problem with him from seeing, I haven't,
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I've only played him in the practice ranges and
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stuff like that. I have not. played him myself,
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but I've seen him played on on my team, another
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team, the other team, the only other team that's
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not my team. The and I will say there's two two
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problems I have visually. He clutters the fuck
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out of everything I'm looking at, like just so
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much shit everywhere. And that bothers me. I
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think he's a really cool character. I like his
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character design. And I like that he does chess
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stuff. But holy shit, I don't want my vision
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to constantly be full of tiles and pieces that
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are staying everywhere. And I don't know what
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the trade off is for that, but it's like it does
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bother me. And I think it's the straw in the
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camel's back for me personally on like the game
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becoming visually more noisy since the visual
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update to the map and stuff like that. So I'm
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wondering, I don't know, do you do you have any
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feelings about that stuff? Because I think it's
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kids cool. But I think that that part to me is
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the sticking point. I've got a simple fix for
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you. Just play him and then he doesn't clutter
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your screen. He clutters their screen. That's
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the easiest way. Well, then they have to have
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a draft pick in the game. They don't. I've been
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one tricking Solomon. The other thing he's he's
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played a lot in standard, it seems. I have not
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had a whole lot of trouble getting him in in
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ranked. I feel like his play rate in ranked.
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I haven't checked the play rates on stat locker,
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but I imagine he's not played that much. Well,
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so like when I first thought of this, you know,
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my reaction to this character. I kind of thought
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he was OP. This is purely based off of when he
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first got released and we saw his kid. Yeah.
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Right. And then in practice, I think people are
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still struggling with him. I think that he has
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a lot of weird hangups about whether or not he
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can do good. So then I'm like, OK, well, he's
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like the annoying early game. He spams you like
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fucked on early game. He's visually really noisy,
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but he's also seemingly not very actually like
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that busted. You know what I mean? No. Well,
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I think part of it's that Aido is one of like
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the pro players right now. He initially started
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to play him as a gun character because Solomon's
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gun is very good in lane, but it stops being
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good pretty quickly in terms of scaling. And
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so you've got a lot of people who are playing
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him as a gun character for a lot of the game.
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And he's just terrible like you. I've played
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probably nine games with him now. For me, I want
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to play him in situations that I would play McGinnis
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and page. So I'm sure, dude, honestly, Trophy
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Collector is good on him because he's going to
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he's going to be at the end of the game. If you
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show up to every rift fight, every midboss fight,
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he's going to have like 35 fucking assists. I
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regularly have 20 or more assists in games with
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them. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, he just
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is always nuts. So the rook, the rook literally
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goes forever. If like if it doesn't hit a wall,
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it literally will go forever. always comes back.
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So you set up these really like, especially on
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blue lane, he's just overpowered. Yeah. And he
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has all multiple times in a closed space back
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and forth. Yeah. So he's he's also kind of good
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in situations where Shiv would be good where
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like, you're in these little corners and you're
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doing that kind of stuff. In early game that
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his night, if he puts it on himself and kings
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himself. I mean, dude, you get like a I forget
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what it is for like 300 or 400. bubble but like
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he's literally just a higher skill ceiling page
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and he has some sort of McGinnis stuff like his
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alt is again it's like he's a perfect high skill
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ceiling utility support type character because
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his like think about page alt and think about
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McGinnis alt McGinnis alt you kind of lock down
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this little circle so you can stand outside of
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like a big objective and just kind of damage
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people perpetually And then think about page
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alt is like this long straight line that does
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like a knockup stunt. He has kind of both of
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those in his alt and he gets to hit it down three
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times. The alt is okay, dude. Especially when
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it's fully upgraded to the third tier or whatever,
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it's so strong with all the extra moves. So his
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biggest, everyone said this because it's true,
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but his biggest downside is that If the fight
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moves away from him, which it always does, he's
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just he kind of sucks a little bit. But there
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are certain fights in the game where you can't
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go anywhere. You have to be. It's a king of the
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hill. Like three different fights in this game
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are king of the hills. Basically, I my my main
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thought that I wish they would do is like, I
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wish I could destroy the pieces when I'm playing
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against him. Like if I shoot them enough or something
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like that, or I want them to be shorter. because
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like it just it feels busted right now when he
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can just move the shit out of his pieces early
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game and just like spam you way across like his
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range is really far from the beginning. Right.
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It's pretty far. Yeah. And he can just do it.
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And it's like, yeah, you can kind of have an
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idea of when he's going to do it again. But like
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it's it reminds me there's a character in League
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of Legends called Syndra that throws out these
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like gravity balls that she can leave around
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and then redirect them. You have to be careful
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to not like you're like, oh, I don't want to
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go in the way of the gravity ball. So when they
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move it, I You know, I'm like aware in my spatial
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awareness of, you know, not getting hit by this
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thing. But he's able to do it so often and especially
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even in the early game that I find it to be annoying.
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And it falls into that category of it's like
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it's not too broken that it should be just immediately
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nerfed like they did with like Ratt King's Ult
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or whatever. But it is something where I'm like,
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it's not fun. It's like spammy and annoying.
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And then the rest of this kid, I think is great.
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But yeah, I think that probably a fix for that
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would just be I like that he has a lot of range
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on stuff. I think that if you kill his range,
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you kill the sort of chess fantasy of it. I do
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think that if they just added more time in between
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his ability to move it, because it does feel
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like starting off early, even just like, like
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he wins every lane because he can just move those
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pieces. I forget what it is every three seconds
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or four seconds. Like that's crazy. Especially
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when. The downside to this is that you have to
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turn them off and re like put them back up again.
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If you're going to run and chase a fight, and
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that's every 12 seconds and then eight seconds
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late early game, you're not packing them up and
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put them anywhere. You're leaving them there
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the whole lanes period. So it's like the lane
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phase is just a W for him every time because
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he can move them every four seconds. And you
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know, I'll say this much. He's obviously based
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off like New York. Chess hustler master grandmaster
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character clearly doesn't need anything up his
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butt to do well at chest. So he's he's got he's
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got that going for him. And I think that he's
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probably one of the more he feels like a character
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that feels like a real person. You know what
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I mean? So he doesn't need anything up his butt
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to do. I did. It's no buzzing. He's against laying
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on you and it's just here. Yeah, I was gonna
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say at least like a love fence or whatever those
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things are called, love fence. Yeah, it's a Carl
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Magnuson reference, I believe. Because he got
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accused of cheating by having something shoved
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up his foot. By the way, I very much whisked
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it. Not to correct you twice in a row, but I
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wish his name was Carl Magnuson instead of Magnus
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Carlson. Whatever. I don't care. Hey, guys, I
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don't give a shit about chess. I'm not gonna
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lie. Email us with all your... I love this character.
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This character on TikTok and YouTube and all
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that stuff, when this character came out, every
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fucking random chess player that's never heard
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of Deadlock came out of the woodwork to make
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a video being like... Whoa, guys, because they
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also put in all the moves on his reality animation
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and everything. So like everyone comes out to
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just be like, this is so sick. And I'm like,
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you know, I love deadlock getting more support,
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but it is funny because I just the chess part
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for me. I know you play it. You like chess, but
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I I like deadlock. I don't know. Oh, yeah. I'm
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a checkers guy. I like to eat things. I like
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monster energy drinks. I'm a simple person. Like
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to eat glue. Yeah, I do. I think that. There
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was obviously like a Gotham Chess stream with
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deathy which was pretty I didn't watch the stream
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But I just like the fact that Gotham Chess is
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is like He's got his you know ear to the ground
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enough to be like there's something going on
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over here with Well, they put one of his moves
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in as one of the reload animations or one. Oh,
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yeah, that's right Yeah, which by the way, that's
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that shit's so cool like props to the character
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design team it like harps that stuff is just
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like that's Chef's kiss say money peak Well,
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it's like somebody I saw somebody on Reddit comment
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this it was like Solomon is for chess what graves
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is for skulls right if you look at the If you
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look at the character design, it's like because
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she kind of has like oh my god Look at her necklaces
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make a jack -o -lantern if you like, you know
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squint at them and look the right way and it's
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like he's the same way like somebody was putting
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out this part might just be racism. I don't know
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but somebody was looking at his hair and being
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like look There's chess pieces in the air as
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well. That's not what I thought you were going
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to say. That's I mean, maybe that's I mean, maybe,
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maybe if that's true, that's an amazing detail.
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If that's not true, that's an insane thing to
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just start being like, I'm seeing shapes in the
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hair. No, I mean, that's another level. But my
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girlfriend, she told me that because everyone
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was calling it a fro. And she was like, that's
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not a fro. And I was like, what I thought it
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was just like a kind of messy like like it looks
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like sort of the the fro somebody would have
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if they're like too much of a genius to like
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bother doing their hair and then she was like
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no that's called freeform and it's actually like
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an intentional hairstyle with like certain twists
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and whatever and I'm like oh well fuck me I mean
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people always joke about like the black characters
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having killmonger hair I will say that like he
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that's what I was trying to say is like visually
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he looks like a real person like he looks like
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a dude that you could run into on the street
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and I think that that is I can only name a few
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of the most deadly characters to me feel like
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they're tropes. You know what I mean? Like even
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like the new Baba nurse hero and all the new
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even violet. Like they all fit into kind of like
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a design category. This just feels like they
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plucked like a real actual person from the world
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and turned him into a game character and gave
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him. Yeah. Superpowers. And it looks like you
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went. It looks like you went to Central Park
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and found it like a guy from like the five percenters
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or whatever or like a chess club or something
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like that. And just like. put him in the game.
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Obviously, he's a little more like chess centered
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than a real person. In real life, you'd be a
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little disturbed talking to him because you'd
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be like, he'd be teaching about chess and you'd
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be like, you start to notice he has like chess
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rings in his shirt. Yeah, yeah. You mean you
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really like chess? What else do? He's like, my
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wife's name is chess. For those from the Mid
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-Atlantic, chess pie. That's a type of pie. Completely
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unrelated to the project the center of the ocean
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Yes, not the middle of the Atlantic silly man
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Well, I mean, I think he's really cool I wish
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that I hope that they maybe because I just think
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that there's so much visual clutter going on
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with some of the new characters in the new map
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I hope they find some way to simplify it a little
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bit But I do think that he's a really cool character
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and and I will say I underrated him He was like
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lower on my list originally. And now that he's
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out, I'm like, no, this is really cool. This
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is a cool guy. I'm not going to get into chess,
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but I will play him in deadlock. I he was my
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number one. I had 80 votes on him or 82 votes
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going into the thing. And yeah, man, I think
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he's proven to be the most interesting one. Rat
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King, very beginner friendly, very tanky. And
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he just shoots people and his fucking. Now, I
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think his bomb needs a fucking nerf at this point.
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And then, Baba, I will say, here's a place you
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were right. I thought Baba wasn't overpowered.
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Baba is just a fucking menace in all my ranked
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games. It's so bad. It's the two. It's 100 %
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the two. I mean, again, another visually noisy
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character with shit and smoke and everything
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flying off and her cue is really visually disruptive.
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but the two is just, they'll need to do something
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about it because it comes up really frequently.
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It's super overpowered. It's the combination.
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I play all these spirit characters and it's just
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like, now I get that they, you know, good game
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designers will kind of go, oh, what's the meta?
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Let's add a character that will kind of fuck
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with that meta. And the most famous example in
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my mind of this is Brigitte or Brigitte or whatever.
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from Overwatch, like, oh, you have a strong dive
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meta. How about the most anti dive support you
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could possibly imagine that's OP as fuck and
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ruin the game supposedly for X, Y, Z number of
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years, I guess, or whatever. But like it to me,
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I'm like she Baba can walk you down. She's pretty
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tanky. Baba Baba. She takes all your spirit.
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And I get that you can. parry and you can buy
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rebuttal and whatever. It's more of the the mental
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tax, the mental load of having to be like, not
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only am I trying to kill her, not only is she
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not losing any fucking health, but now I have
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to every couple of seconds parry or else I die.
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But it's like when you're under it's the early
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game, because like what I see is that they they
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get fed really early when they're not in my lane.
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Yeah. And like they because it never happens
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to me. I'm amazing. I did like the they like
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will go to under tower early game right like
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we're talking about like people just unlock their
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second ability and then they're spamming their
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heavy melee with the two enabled and it's they're
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hitting I mean first of all the towers and guardians
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and walkers in this game are a joke all things
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considered compared to other compared to like
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some of the other you know, MOBA experiences
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where, like, you can't go under tower at all,
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right? Baba can come, kadoosh, hit you, jump
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away. Huge AOE. You have to parry. There's no
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downside to her doing it whatsoever. And then
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not only that, but when she hits you with the
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very long and big one that's very quick and hard
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to dodge, she gets stronger for her, too. So
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it's like, yeah, it's crazy. It's definitely
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I wonder what they'll do, but it feels like it's
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a little too powerful, especially early game.
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Yeah, you mean she's interesting. It's definitely
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an interesting character design. I think that
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she's less interesting than Solomon, more interesting
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than Rat King. But just in terms of gameplay,
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mechanical. I would say, I mean, I've seen people
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play some crazy. I mean, the movement tech people
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are just doing that stuff. We talked about that
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being a thing that would pop off and like you
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see people literally flying across the map with
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Baba now. So I appreciate that they which, by
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the way. Only on a bench was not my top contender.
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Yes. Fastest character in the game. But here
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we are. Yeah. What? Watching her try to attack
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you under Walker and then like decide that it's
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not worth the time. But then your team is coming
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to chase her and she just puts everyone in the
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dust is one of the funniest. Just a bench running
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at top speed, jumping off of everything, flying
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away is very funny. Just sprinting. But do you
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want to talk a little bit about dead man Danny?
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Because I have I have thoughts. Well, I wanted
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to throw one more thing on to the Solomon pile
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I only move on because I'm because that there
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is a creator I think named rain I think maybe
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we could throw this in the description because
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this has been such a big part of Getting me better
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at playing Solomon. He put out a video recently
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Would you basically just change the key bind
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of your right click? I think you keep the right
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click which is when he's in his one you can hold
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right click and move it around, right? And it
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shows you kind of like a preview of where your
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bishop is gonna go. There's another way to do
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it, which is to make it so that your right click
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has two key binds, which is also scrolling up,
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which I know from many different first person
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shooter games, people use that as a way to bunny
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hop because it's the fastest, it has the fastest
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click basically. So you're not clicking and then.
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like letting your finger depress and then compress
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and then depress the button, you're just flicking.
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So I use this a lot on like, you know, like Marvel
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Rivals, Spider -Man and Bunnyhop and Counter
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-Strike type shit. With his, with his bishop,
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it makes it so that if it's in that little space,
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your bishop is just immediately where your cursor
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is. And that has made it so that I am getting
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like, my damage might have doubled on bishops
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because of that. So definitely shout out to Rain
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and also that making him more playable, because
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the way his stuff is set up now, you really wish
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that you could press a button individually for
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each of the pieces, because not only is it visually
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cluttering for everyone else, it does get pretty,
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like if I'm in Midboss and I have the queen,
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two bishops, the rooks are flying around, and
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I've got the knight and or king, to move myself
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or somebody else. It's just, I'm just moving
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everything at once. I'm just deciding in that
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moment, there's no, like he's supposed to be
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this character that's like so methodical and
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whatever, but in those fights, which because
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of his play style end up being the main fights
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he holds his alt for, it's just a clusterfuck.
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And I feel like that's not really how it was
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intended to be. So I think that they should make
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it so that you, Can change the key bind individually
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for each ability instead of just having right
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click be the thing that like moves all of them
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like Think of that like I press Q What if I can
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press Q again and that only moves the bishops
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then I can look at the Queen and still move the
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bishop You know what I mean? Yeah Anyway, so
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that aside though Danny. Oh, well, I was just
21:53
gonna say that the like I think that the all
21:58
the new characters so far have brought a level
22:02
of like interesting design, like new types of
22:06
playing the game and like changing the meta and
22:09
the dynamic and all that stuff. And I'm curious
22:11
to see what these are remaining to. We'll talk
22:14
about Danny in a second, but Violet and Nurse
22:16
Hero. I'm curious to see if they fall into like
22:18
a more simplistic system or if they're also going
22:21
to bloat because like. Honestly, I'll be frank
22:23
with Solomon. I had no idea. I thought there'd
22:26
be some chess stuff that he does. Maybe he has
22:28
pieces or something, whatever. I did not think
22:30
that he was going to be literally moving pieces
22:32
like he's on a chessboard and doing all this
22:34
stuff. I didn't think that Baba would be this
22:37
character with a lot of nuance. To her play style
22:41
like so I'm really impressed by this new tranche
22:43
of characters It's not to say that the other
22:44
characters are like super simple, but I am I
22:47
am pretty sure rise Although I guess not that
22:49
surprised because with the what is it? Is it
22:51
Hoppo as I say his name or? Hoppo Hoppo Hoppo
22:55
the from the risk of rain folks coming over and
22:59
being part of the character design team I think
23:01
is that that's confirmed or so, but I can't remember
23:03
if that was ever a thing that's confirmed totally
23:05
Yeah, like you can see if you play risk of rain
23:07
to or anything like that. You can just see the
23:10
one -to -one parallel, because all the character
23:12
archetypes in that game have really interesting,
23:14
unique ways of interacting. So you can definitely,
23:16
I feel like I'm seeing a lot of intriguing stuff
23:20
happening in the game, which is very cool. Yeah.
23:22
And speaking of, Dead Man Danny. Dead Man Danny,
23:26
the most boring character in the game. Boo, boo,
23:29
wrong opinion. Take him out back! They put in
23:34
the flying lady from Overwatch into this game
23:37
as well. The no, no, no, no. So first of all,
23:42
he's he does fly, which is I think is great.
23:44
I think that there's I have questions about the
23:46
flow of this kid and some of that stuff around
23:48
the flying. But he he feels like a League of
23:51
Legends character brought to life in a whole
23:53
new dimension for me personally. But like, yeah,
23:56
tell me what's your what's your beef besides
23:57
that? You hate the day. I think that I don't
24:02
think he's good and I think he's annoying. Now,
24:05
keep my. He's not bad. Like, I think he's a fine
24:08
character. I think his kit plays a little bit
24:15
like, okay, so he has his one or sorry, he has
24:20
his left click, which is, I mean, essentially
24:26
like a little bit of a charge up squirrel girl
24:30
or junk rat kind of a shot, like it does like
24:33
a little AOE thing the way Yamato's right click
24:35
does. And That's interesting and then I liked
24:40
it also he can click it without having to He
24:44
can click it without having to you know Make
24:47
it always this chart shot and that's essentially
24:49
to get souls still right? He can still get his
24:51
souls out Confirms I'm just not a massive fan
24:57
of flying characters. Like this is one of the
24:59
things that made me lose interest in in rivals
25:02
just that like It's just like his kid is a little
25:10
boring, like, and I think it's maybe a little
25:12
under -kitted. Every single person in my ranked
25:15
games, to be fair, I have not played him yet,
25:17
but the people in my ranked games, like, the
25:19
ult doesn't seem to do enough damage right now.
25:22
His gun doesn't seem to do enough damage. When
25:25
he's doing his, like, flying, he flies up with
25:28
one of his ability, his three, I think, controls
25:31
sort of a passive, controlling his flight. When
25:35
his flight meter goes all the way up, it goes
25:36
to like an overloaded type state. And then you
25:39
have to nose dive into the ground and do an AOE
25:43
explosion. Yes. But if you don't hit anybody,
25:46
you get stunned. Now, that's a really cool mechanic.
25:49
I think that's well thought out. But it doesn't
25:53
do enough damage when you hit it. And then also
25:56
when you don't hit it, you're you're just food
26:01
for people like you're just feeding. Right. So
26:04
I think that It's not an automatically bad kit.
26:06
I think that it's just not. It's to me, just
26:09
obviously not as well thought out as some of
26:12
the other characters in this, as you called it,
26:15
Tronch. I'm going to unroll. I'm unrolling my
26:18
scroll and I'm reading from the top. Yeah. A
26:20
thousand reasons on why I think you're completely
26:22
wrong. Please. So like from my perspective, like
26:27
he reminds me of a character from two characters
26:30
from League of Legends. One is Gnar and the other
26:33
one is I mean, so technically there's multiple
26:36
Rumble, Gnar and Tristana. And for people who
26:39
don't know, Tristana is a little tiny blue yordle
26:42
character who has giant cannon and she jetpacks
26:45
and lands on the ground and makes an AOE thing
26:47
and then has a bunch of abilities that do different
26:49
things. Obviously, the jetpacking stuff feels
26:51
familiar from that. Then Rumble has a flamethrower
26:56
and also an overheating meter. So very familiar
26:59
if you know, Dany has that flying jetpack over
27:02
overcharge status. and uh or overheated or whatever
27:05
they call it and then uh for gnar he also has
27:08
a rage meter where he kind of has different abilities
27:11
although i guess now that i think about it it's
27:12
it's slightly less that because he transforms
27:14
into a big thing or whatever kind of like silver
27:15
but it's similarly like the interactions change
27:19
when you're uh overheated right so now they think
27:23
about it's more like uh the rumble character
27:25
but the um the way that i see his kit working
27:28
is one they added in movement to his attacks
27:32
that you can bounce yourself like a straight
27:34
up like a rocket jump, which is sick. So you
27:37
can get a lot of interesting movement that way.
27:40
And he has a lot of AOE, right? Like a bunch
27:44
of AOE, a bunch of like if you manage that jet
27:47
pack level, you can trigger the ideas. Obviously,
27:49
you would want to trigger that overheating status
27:53
and then do that when you think you can land
27:55
an attack. Right. But he seems like he has potentially
27:58
a lot of like huge dive potential, right, with
28:01
his ult especially being a fucking suplex, which
28:03
is sick as fuck. Like the fact that he, I've
28:06
just been watching compilations of people just
28:08
suplexing every character that I find annoying
28:10
and I'm just like watching it being like, ah,
28:13
yes. And I'm like fully, if that character had
28:16
no other abilities and could just suplex from
28:18
the air, I'm fine with that. That's okay with
28:20
me. But I think he has a lot, I think he's...
28:24
an interesting character because I think he has
28:26
potential to do really well especially when you
28:28
start looking at like different interesting builds
28:30
to kind of work with his kit of like doing DOT
28:33
and all this other stuff and then also that he
28:36
can be this like really interesting dive character
28:39
that can maneuver in and you know there's a lot
28:42
of characters that can run away very quickly
28:44
now right but imagine Baba's running away you
28:48
know one third health you've Litter up. She's
28:51
completely grandma's on fire running away and
28:53
you fly up into the air dive bomber and then
28:56
suplex her before she can get away. That sounds
28:58
funny. You know what I mean? Like I can see it
28:59
coming together now. Disclosure like the full
29:02
disclosure. I have not played him in a game yet.
29:04
So this is purely based off of like digging around
29:06
with him in the sandbox or whatever and having
29:09
my fun with that. But I would I can see it coming
29:12
together. Like I see the vision. You know what
29:14
I mean? Here's how you'll get me to like them
29:16
and Danny. make Solomon's pieces, the squares
29:20
that they take up, make them go in perpetuity
29:23
toward the sky. All right? Each of his pieces
29:25
- You're just mad because you like Solomon and
29:27
he's in the air. Each of Solomon's pieces is
29:31
now 85 stories tall. That's how I'll enjoy Danny.
29:34
You'll have a character that you'll play against
29:36
a character in Lane that kicks your ass. You'll
29:37
be like, fuck it, that character's busted. They
29:40
keep shooting me. What the fuck, dude? This Abrams
29:43
won't stop meleeing me. I hate Abrams, he's so
29:47
busted. I do think that Dead Man Danny's numbers
29:53
need like, why is it that every character gets
29:56
to be broken except for Dead Man Danny? Every
29:58
character is broken on release except maybe Solomon
30:01
to a less lesser extent. He's just more like
30:04
overwhelming than he is overpowered. But Dead
30:06
Man Danny feels like actually underpowered. I
30:08
mean, like he's not he's not carrying any of
30:11
my games, at least. Yeah. I mean, I don't think
30:13
Solomon's carrying any games either. I think
30:14
Baba is Spamming a shit ton. I think that rat
30:18
king is doing a lot But I don't think any of
30:20
these characters are right when ranking first
30:22
came out He was actually busted right his alt
30:24
was too insane and whatever I think that it's
30:27
in a good place now in terms of balance like
30:28
I'm surprised at how well I think it's okay for
30:31
a character to come out and not be like completely
30:33
broken because I Playing all these games MOBA's
30:37
and character It's always fucking so annoying
30:39
when every new character that comes out is just
30:41
the newest most broken busted thing and they
30:44
don't fix it I appreciate that this game, they
30:47
make quicker changes to that stuff. But also
30:49
I'm fine with the character coming out and seeing
30:51
what the skill expression looks like. Where's
30:53
the ceiling? Where's the floor like that stuff?
30:55
People will figure it out quickly and they'll
30:57
adjust it like they've done a good job, I think,
31:00
on adjusting. I mean, we can talk about it in
31:03
a little bit with kind of like update about how
31:05
the game's feeling and all that stuff. But I
31:06
think that there's changes they need to make
31:08
to other characters that are in the older roster
31:11
that need help. But, yeah. Again, this is a Deadlock
31:15
podcast for the rest of us. Just nerf Hayes,
31:18
guys, come on, please. Like, I know that, you
31:21
know, fucking top 10 people in the game are like,
31:25
oh, bro, how do you have trouble with Hayes,
31:28
bro? It's like, well, we do, all right? Most
31:31
of the game is having trouble with Hayes, and
31:32
it's very easy to get value on the character,
31:34
right, so. Yeah, I mean, it's, we'll see what,
31:37
I really do wanna, like, I wanna let these characters
31:40
breathe and see what's. going on in the higher
31:43
yellow, the lower yellow and then figure like
31:45
because like I think that all of them are cool.
31:48
I'm I'm personally annoyed by the visual clutter
31:50
compared to like what we had before, which is
31:53
like a very much more straightforward, kind of
31:55
cleaner visual experience with the older map
31:58
and all that stuff. So it's maybe I'm getting
32:00
used to it. We'll see. But I think that I can
32:04
imagine Violet being another character that is
32:08
visually noisy as fuck, especially if. She's
32:10
putting like graffiti or art places and shooting
32:14
shit everywhere. Like there's a part of me that's
32:15
I'm like, I just don't know. Was it where they
32:17
just like, let's go for super loud visual slop.
32:20
Like that's like, yeah. And well, I have it.
32:25
I have an intuition that she's going to that
32:28
Violet will have some kind of split tune, like
32:30
paint the ground and that'd be sick mechanic.
32:32
But also that would it's that's where I fall
32:34
in. See, this is the problem with like all these
32:36
new characters. I'm like, dude. I like hats off
32:39
like a plot. They all look cool. They're like
32:42
super interesting. Their kids are really intriguing.
32:44
And then at the same time, I'm also just like,
32:47
oh, my fucking God, if this character shoots
32:49
shit, it's like the fucking squid from Mario
32:51
Kart or whatever. It's like shooting shit in
32:54
my face. It's like busting on my face and I can't
32:56
see anything. And it's just like, hey, you guys
32:57
like a deadlock. And I'm like, I can't fucking
32:59
see anything. I know I'm old, but like, you know
33:02
what I mean? I don't need fucking bifocals. I
33:04
want to be able to see the fucking game. Yeah.
33:08
Not me. I don't want to aim. I don't want to...
33:12
Every character should be Graves. 1266 Graves
33:15
fight. Yeah. You want to shoot an orb out that
33:18
just kills everyone. Yeah. Make... I mean, why
33:24
isn't Deadlock Marvel Rivals? That's my take.
33:26
Just more... Talk about a visually loud game.
33:28
Holy shit. Duh. No, I think that this... All
33:34
of this stuff is to say that, like, I can see
33:37
the game. You talked the last time about the
33:39
player count going up and stuff like that. I'm
33:40
seeing more people coming in and playing this
33:43
game than ever before. And I do think that, like,
33:45
the visual update, the new characters, the interesting
33:48
mechanics and all that stuff, it's certainly
33:50
making it harder for people to learn the game.
33:52
But I think you're getting a lot of people intrigued
33:55
at the very at the very least. Right. Of like,
33:57
what's going on with Deadlock? What is this game?
33:59
Which is, you know, as a huge Deadlock fan, I'm
34:03
fucking Jones by I think that that's great. More
34:05
more interest, the more love the better, right?
34:08
Yes, it will talk about dead man Danny and Solomon
34:12
as characters when we like because we'll do our
34:13
lore thing where we pick a character. But I think
34:17
visually dead man Danny is cool. I do think it's
34:20
interesting that he's another Fairfax shill that
34:23
he's like very obviously that's part of his character
34:25
that he's just like a salesperson type guy. And
34:30
yeah. I think it's cool. That guy that is being
34:33
a dead skeleton guy and like a jetpack outfit
34:36
with a mustache is pretty funny. I have issues
34:39
with so two parts of his design, I will say.
34:43
So I'll give one positive one negative. So start
34:47
out with positive. His light parry animation
34:50
is the best one in the game. I think it's a I
34:53
think it might actually be a an Austin Powers
34:57
reference. His foot comes up literally like parallel
35:03
with his neck all the way up. I think that's
35:06
just like hilarious. It's at least like old film
35:11
gag kind of a thing, right? Well, and I'm sorry,
35:14
good. And then the negative I would say. Actually,
35:20
do you want to get something in there before
35:21
negatives? No, no, I was just gonna add my own
35:24
fun thing. I'll go after you. All right, no fun.
35:28
I'm gonna find your second thing. Go on finish.
35:33
Well, actually, hold on. No, good. Right. Second
35:38
thing. This is so petty. But like, when you jump
35:43
into the air, when you use stamina to the left
35:48
and to the right, his jet pack has obviously
35:52
two rockets pointing downward. And the rockets
35:55
pointing downward make him go what direction
35:57
up right the way propulsion works. Now, when
36:02
he moves to the left and to the right, That is
36:06
the opposite. He has boosters on the left and
36:10
right of his jetpack. The boosters boost to the
36:13
right and then he moves to the right. Can we
36:16
just make it the opposite? It's such a small
36:20
thing, but it speaks again to the idea that this
36:23
character in my mind was a little bit rushed
36:24
going out the door. I have not seen that, I believe
36:28
you, but also the fact that you've noticed that
36:31
is hilarious to me. I don't know if I would've
36:34
caught that, but I'm curious to go check it out
36:37
now that you mentioned it. Yeah, I mean, I think
36:40
you'll notice it. By the way, it's not a big
36:42
deal, it's more just like, that's not right.
36:44
All right, okay, okay, settle down, Kerbal Space
36:47
Program. Calm the fuck down, all right, with
36:49
your rockets and shit. I like that he tiptoes
36:52
when you crouch walk. He gets off his jetpack
36:55
and he does all I do like that. It's hilarious.
36:58
That's actually very. And when you when you dash
37:01
with him forward, he like falls and slides on
37:03
the ground comedically. It's just very funny.
37:06
Yes. He's very, very good. I mean, it's character
37:11
design wise. I think that they absolutely cook.
37:13
I just love the idea of like this meal. You're
37:16
like. You're on Walker on your lane or whatever
37:19
in the jungle. And you're like, I got to look
37:21
out for, you know, dead man Danny flying overhead
37:23
or something. And you just hear and then it stops
37:27
suddenly and you're just like. And you're like
37:31
the most not subtle fucking skeleton gang or
37:37
whatever. Yeah, I mean, I think he's a cool character.
37:40
I don't give a shit about his rockets. I'm sure
37:42
they'll fix that stuff, but I'm not a pedantic
37:45
critic. Uh, like you yarn never happy you you
37:50
only like people who are solomon That's true.
37:54
Yep. You're doing every character should just
37:55
been solomon Um, why isn't this game the cast
38:00
of black panther? That's what I always say moving
38:04
on Uh the uh, I think that so we talked a lot
38:09
about uh, the two new characters Uh, there's
38:12
we can talk a little bit about like the game
38:13
and stuff like that But I just want to say about
38:16
the old characters because I made a comment some
38:18
of these characters this new map Feel like not
38:23
only are they getting like kind of effectively
38:25
nerf, but they just feel like they're they're
38:27
lagging behind some of the newer cast Do you
38:31
feel like anything stands out to you in that
38:32
direction? Um Do I feel like so? Say the premise
38:40
again. Do I feel like they are lagging behind
38:42
the previous cast in what regard? So like when
38:45
I play some of these the older characters I feel
38:48
like they are falling behind in the meta of like
38:50
what? characters can do and what is possible.
38:52
Like, I'll give you an example. Grey Talon, who
38:56
I used to play all the time. I haven't ranked
38:58
in my door. I have the most wins on Grey Talon.
39:01
He feels very hard to play. You almost have to
39:05
play him spirit at this point. But even then,
39:08
there's so much clutter on the map that getting
39:10
a clean shot from like far away is very hard
39:13
to do because it's not even like people are hiding
39:15
behind stuff. It's literally just shit in the
39:17
way of you aiming. your kind of like Q or your
39:20
one or whatever. And then same thing with the
39:22
bird. It's like there's so much more shit in
39:23
nooks and crannies that the bird becomes just
39:26
effectively less good, right? Yeah, I actually,
39:32
I mean, obviously I have my thoughts as a new
39:35
Solomon main on somebody like great talent who
39:38
loves to stay in the air. I think they should
39:41
nerf probably all movement above the ground.
39:44
Everyone's locked. No jumping. No more. Make
39:48
it Dota. I mean, really, no. But I think that
39:51
what you're saying is 100 percent true that like
39:53
I know that we had like a couple of weeks ago,
39:56
which people who have come to the game recently
39:58
won't know. But like Warden was insanely overpowered
40:02
because of a certain build like a couple of weeks
40:04
ago before the new update came out. It was like
40:06
a thousand years ago. It feels so long ago, but
40:09
he's so fucking boring. And he's one of the first
40:12
crap of characters, the first crap of characters
40:14
more like it. And he just feels like he just
40:18
calls. But now it's like he just feels like boring
40:22
as hell compared. Even Deadman Danny, I'm saying
40:24
is boring, is 500 times more interesting than
40:27
fucking, you know, at cab fucking cop guy, man.
40:33
If you go back to our first episode, we shit
40:35
on Warden for like a full half hour, I think.
40:38
But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't mind
40:43
simple characters. I think that Rat King is a
40:46
perfect example of how a character can be simple,
40:48
not be too visually cluttering and just interesting.
40:51
And I don't know. Yeah, it's power creep. It
40:55
happens in every one of these games as new characters
40:57
come out. I think every character gets everything.
41:01
To me, it's not. This is a phenomenon that I've
41:04
experienced in Dota and League, which is that
41:05
like And I think less so in Dota League League
41:08
is like egregious with this is that to me it's
41:11
not power creep. It's like kit creep, right?
41:15
Where it's like the all the kits become more.
41:18
And now you can say maybe this is like a one
41:20
to one with Hoppo coming on board or whatever.
41:22
But the kits in this game are getting more and
41:25
more complicated and egregious and like have
41:28
more expression and interesting things going
41:29
on. But by proxy, it's not just that other characters
41:33
are simple. It's like. They have less tools in
41:35
the toolkit, right? Like Ray Talon is to me feels
41:39
like he's really struggling because he's like
41:42
it's hard. It's there's more shit in the way.
41:44
It's harder to hit your shots. His alts less
41:45
like his alts harder to navigate around everything.
41:48
And then on top of that, he doesn't have like
41:50
a whole, you know, he has his traps and stuff
41:52
like that. But other than that, it's not like
41:54
he's doing a whole lot more. Right. You can catch
41:56
him out really easy. You have to play him in
41:59
the very. But then you have. Baba and Rat King
42:01
and Dead Man Danny and Solomon. Maybe Solomon
42:04
less so because he's not as exactly as mobile
42:06
as some of those other characters, but that can
42:08
do all this crazy stuff. They can be tanks. They
42:10
can do a shit ton of damage. They can get to
42:12
and from places really fast and buff their allies
42:14
like their capacity. Same thing with like this
42:19
is true of Graves too, right? Graves felt like
42:21
originally I was like, oh, Graves is like a utility
42:23
support character. She's going to be pushing
42:25
lanes and things like that, which she can do.
42:27
But also she's like an offensive powerhouse.
42:29
Right. What is what is Grey Talon's depth? Right.
42:33
He can do a spirit build or he can do a gun build.
42:36
And both of them have similar limitations at
42:38
this point. Right. And you just rather be playing
42:41
Vendicta at the end of the day. From my perspective,
42:43
anyway. Yeah, maybe. I think that's probably
42:45
true. I think that I think that a lot of characters
42:50
in this game pop off when they're fed and they
42:55
don't when they're not. And I think Grey Talon
42:57
is is hard. to play from behind, similar to like
43:02
Drifter or, you know, a lot of these characters.
43:04
There are a lot of characters that are not as
43:05
hard to play from behind. Right. Yeah. Well,
43:07
and I would also say that some of these characters
43:10
to these older characters, they just need a visual
43:11
update like badly. I mean, like really badly.
43:15
Yeah, especially. I mean, some of them are terrible.
43:18
Yeah. Luckily, they did. Yeah, luckily they did
43:22
put that in the the notes of the new patch was
43:25
like we Understand that the characters need an
43:28
update that is happening. It's not happening
43:30
right now and I'm glad that they said something
43:33
about it cuz it's like a lot of people were assuming
43:35
that everyone was getting a a lot of people were
43:38
assuming because of like leak channels that just
43:40
don't have any Reality to some of the leaks like
43:43
there's just some guy on Twitter said something
43:46
and then everyone's like see they're redoing
43:48
Yamato Everyone there was a leak that was like
43:52
they apparently I don't even know if it's true
43:54
valve supposedly hired this artist that did um
43:59
You know that like number one Deadlock mod for
44:04
Yamato's new skin or whatever and it looks great.
44:07
It is it does look really good. But um, they
44:10
were like they They hired that artist. So, of
44:13
course, we're gonna get Yamato's new and it's
44:15
like it's just we don't know what the Timeline
44:18
for any of this stuff is I assume great talent
44:20
will look great someday not right now. I Well,
44:24
there's a there's a couple days ago. There was
44:26
a whole back -and -forth online about changing
44:29
shifts face to be more handsome, which I People
44:33
are why? This is just from watching videos and
44:38
reading forum posts and read it and some of that
44:40
People in the lore he's supposed to be very attractive
44:43
and people think he doesn't look very attractive
44:46
Oh, and that's fair. If the lore says he's supposed
44:49
to be attractive, that's one thing. That's my
44:50
understanding of it. But I think that, first
44:53
of all, he looks kind of like a weird monkey
44:55
man to me more than anything else. He does, yeah.
44:57
I'm not sure what the intent was with that, but
44:59
he has a very ape -like kind of thing going on.
45:02
And he has that goofy -ass fucking hair. I almost
45:06
think it's funnier that people find him really
45:08
attractive and he's not objectively attractive
45:10
to our outside -the -game standards. Okay, like
45:13
this is a game where there's like fucking pile
45:15
of goo walking around like what this you're telling
45:17
this man Can't be handsome compared to a fucking
45:19
snake. I mean, okay. Look, I'm not saying that
45:21
viper. I think vipers beautiful so I shouldn't
45:24
Viper mains leave me alone. She's beautiful.
45:28
Um The uh, but yeah, I think that they need to
45:32
change Quick segue. I mean we're talking about
45:35
change the character models. Do you remember
45:37
the new superman movie had some like guy who's
45:39
supposed to be like It's like he's a real lady
45:41
killer. And then the actor is like four foot
45:44
five and like not that handsome and like skinny
45:47
and just like, I mean, I will have no idea who
45:50
you're talking about. There was a character in
45:52
the new Superman movie that is supposed to be
45:55
like an extremely handsome man and like literally
45:58
to the point where like, I think one or two different
46:01
like world class supermodels fall in love for
46:04
this guy who has like Writer's salary at the
46:06
fucking Daily Bugle or whatever the fucking oh
46:08
the Jimmy Olsen Yes, and it's like there's a
46:13
joke that was supposed to be a joke He was supposed
46:16
to be a joke, but dude also why can't the Shiv
46:19
thing just be a joke too? It's like he does look
46:21
ridiculous. I Wouldn't mind an update from in
46:25
general. I mean I used to I was manning Shiv
46:28
for a while and I I started to use that sort
46:30
of There's a mod that makes his arm gold and
46:34
his gun gold and his jacket and pants black.
46:37
He could definitely look cooler. I don't mind
46:41
the hair at all. I think it's hilarious. The
46:42
hair is just like 1950s Japanese mafia kind of
46:47
shit. Yeah, probably a giant huge pompadour kind
46:48
of thing. He looks like he rides a motorcycle
46:51
with really long handlebars. Yes, the chopper.
46:56
Yeah, exactly. And yeah, no. And also, by the
46:59
way, I think, you know, characters that need
47:01
a visual update way sooner than that are like
47:04
fucking great talent. Obviously, Sinclair, yummy
47:06
toes. Yeah. Fucking viscous. Yeah, I think I
47:11
personally think the viscous looks great, but
47:13
I I don't know. Maybe it's just because I I think
47:15
the whatever shader they put on the gelatinous
47:18
like I think looks really good. But, um. Yeah,
47:23
I mean, like, I'm curious to see what their timeline
47:25
is for that stuff, because, like, is it in the
47:28
next two months, three months, four months, or
47:30
are we talking about, like, a year from now they're
47:31
finally going to, like, write some of these characters,
47:33
right? As I guess it was Hoppo's condition for
47:35
coming on board, being like, I only get to make
47:37
new characters and I don't have to fix any of
47:38
the old ones, like. Which to be fair, I probably
47:42
would be like that, too, because I'm like, I
47:43
don't want to, you know, come in and just spend
47:45
all my time fixing other people's stuff or whatever.
47:47
But, like, I do want I love these. The older
47:49
roster has a lot of characters I love. and I
47:51
want them to be loved by the game and have a
47:54
little bit of a of a time to shine again. Is
47:59
there any other? I say forget them. Yeah, I'm
48:01
loose. That's cool. You just delete it. Delete
48:04
all of them. This game's got three characters.
48:07
That's it. Dead Man Danny, Solomon. I was going
48:11
to say to you, I'm surprised you said Dead Man
48:13
Danny. I was going to say Solomon, Solomon and
48:15
Solomon. I thought what you're going to say.
48:16
Yeah, please. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. It's just
48:18
chess now. It's not deadlock anymore. Now I can
48:21
finally call him solo man when they inevitably
48:25
create a auto chess battle game out of this Like
48:30
I can't wait to see what they do for Solomon
48:32
because I feel like saw the chess character in
48:34
an auto chess game feels like Easy win. Yeah,
48:38
what would they call it? What would they call
48:40
the like dude team battle tactics? Yeah fucking
48:43
in in League of Legends They call it teamfight
48:45
tactics and I think I don't remember the Dota
48:48
one. I'm pretty sure they just called it like
48:49
Dota Auto chess or whatever it was not inspired.
48:52
I remember being like pretty underwhelmed by
48:54
the name, but I think that We can get more creative.
48:58
I feel you'd call it like cursed Apple tactics
49:00
or something, right? Mm -hmm Cursed Apple tactics
49:05
cat. Yeah, you play deadlock cat, you know Valve
49:14
hire us we're available. I would love to quit
49:17
my day job of working for Johnny Apple seed Planting
49:20
all those seeds is hurting my fingers You know
49:24
the but like in terms of like the rest of the
49:27
game the meta and all that stuff You got me.
49:29
How you feeling? I mean, you know, I Think that
49:36
being in low elo is just painful. I'm getting
49:38
key player a lot, but I'm moving very slow It's
49:40
a two wins and then a loss and then two wins
49:42
and then a lot, you know, I mean, so that's happening
49:45
but um, I mean The game feels good. I'm having
49:49
people arguing each other a lot. My games just
49:51
in terms of like everyone's in brick, but it
49:54
is an extremely wide player base. Some people
49:56
have forty six games. Some people have fucking
49:58
five hundred games. Yeah. And so I'm not getting
50:01
into a lot of arguments because I've just decided
50:03
that I'm like I'm just in that sort of like improvement
50:07
mindset of if I'm if my team is losing and five
50:11
people on my team are doing horribly, I'm just
50:15
I'm thinking to myself, You know what? I'm going
50:17
to hit every bridge buff. I'm going to hit every
50:19
that like I'm I'm perfecting my little box roots
50:22
like I'm trying to have fun inside of a losing
50:24
game, but I'm having a lot of other people. My
50:27
team's like someone's arguing. They're all arguing
50:30
about like, who's taking all these boxes? What
50:32
the fuck? Why is always gone? There's no fucking
50:36
discuss with bullet bullets. We have a zero and
50:39
ten Abrams. So our, you know, two and nine dead
50:44
man Danny is like Abrams, what the fuck are you
50:47
doing, dude? What the fuck are you? You're never
50:49
an ATP. You know, it's kind of entertaining,
50:52
but it's also kind of fucking exhausting. Yeah.
50:55
Yeah. The game feels good, man. I feel like the
50:57
game generally feels really good. I'm playing
51:00
a lot of playing a lot of Shiv playing a lot
51:04
of Solomon. Very different experience with those
51:07
and then pocket. So those are character. All
51:10
three of those characters are characters that
51:12
I feel I can continue to improve on even in a
51:14
losing game. You know what I mean? That's true.
51:17
And I think the joy of getting MVP or key player
51:20
has fled me. Yeah, now I just want to get here.
51:24
I'm going to get up in ranker. I want to get
51:25
characters in the rank. And I will say, like,
51:28
it does change standard when you're like, I just
51:30
want two more wins on insert character. I've
51:33
decided to, you know, ascend into rank or whatever.
51:36
Also, by the way, I mean, just real quick, I
51:38
want to say that you and me talked about this
51:40
when we were playing the other day, but like
51:42
I think that they should not put brand new. League
51:46
of Legends, when a brand new character comes
51:48
out. There's usually a delay before they go into
51:50
ranked, if I remember correctly. But like, it's
51:52
nuts to just be like, here's this character that's
51:54
not balanced at all. Enjoy. They're in ranked
51:56
now. And by the way, anyone can play them. Yeah,
51:59
I do think that that's something I've had to
52:03
keep in mind. Like, ranked is a farce right now.
52:05
Like, I think that they're just, and this is
52:09
my assumption, but... They're just saying this
52:11
is a fucking play test, dude. Yeah, like they're
52:14
going in ranked. We don't give a fuck what and
52:17
have fun. And you know what? It's fine with me.
52:19
I don't like my rank is shit and it's not going
52:21
to be better until until matchmaking is either
52:26
fixed or characters are balanced or, you know,
52:28
we'll see. In every game, the reason why it bothers
52:30
me is because in every game, well, the reason
52:32
why it bothers me is because I have mental issues
52:33
and I'm too attached to this game. But the other
52:36
reason it bothers me chugs white monster energy
52:38
drink. The the other reason it bothers me is
52:42
because people use the their rank as like a way
52:47
to. be annoying to other people in game, but
52:49
also because like online like, yeah, I'm an attorney.
52:52
It's like some streamer, whoever, which, you
52:54
know, much love to all the people who make amazing
52:56
content. But like, you know, I I got up to like
53:00
right on the I got out of our con right before
53:03
they changed everything. And then I like they
53:05
changed the system. And I haven't played enough
53:07
to do much, but also it's become very grindy.
53:10
And you talk to people whether it's. who they're
53:13
quoting or what builds they're looking at and
53:15
all this stuff. And it's like, a turn is this,
53:17
a turn is that like all these top players and
53:19
whatever. And it just bums me out because I'm
53:21
like, this is such a broken system that anyone
53:23
puts this on their badge and is like, yeah, I'm
53:26
I'm in this rank or whatever. I'm really important.
53:28
It's like, no, it's a fucking broken early access
53:31
system. And it's like hilarious that you would
53:33
like put this as like a badge of honor to be
53:35
like, I'm on the top of this like busted and
53:38
biased system or whatever. Right. And. The other
53:41
part of it that I I want is like I normally get
53:46
to the top of whatever the highest part of like
53:48
a casual ranking system would be. So for some
53:50
games, it's like gold or platinum or something
53:52
like that. Very few games do I go over that limit
53:55
because that's where that's where it gets grindy
53:56
usually. Sure. Yeah. I fucking I just I hope
54:00
that when November comes because they've pushed
54:02
back the deadline for like the up the new season.
54:05
I hope that wouldn't I hope that's for a reason.
54:07
And that when the new system comes or they make
54:09
the change to the new season, they make some
54:11
changes because if they make none and they also,
54:14
you know, put us all back down further, it's
54:18
going to be fucking chaos and it'll make it very
54:21
hard to play. I love playing ranked. I like there
54:23
being a weight to winning and losing and being
54:26
rewarded and like seeing my shit go up and playing
54:28
higher performance games. You know what I mean?
54:31
Sure. I mean. I'm pretty much with you. I think
54:34
I probably like, I mean, I might have made it
54:36
to like silver or gold in Overwatch, but I was
54:38
also like fucking blackout drunk playing that
54:42
game a lot of the time. So it's like, you know,
54:45
none of these games are games that I'm like,
54:46
Oh, I just need to get to a higher end. It's
54:49
funny because deadlock is probably the game I've
54:51
taken the most seriously in terms of wanting
54:53
to rank up. And I have found myself putting in
54:57
more time in this game for less. Movement than
55:00
I did in a lot of other games. I also understand
55:03
a game like Marvel Rivals or one of these types
55:05
of games They're actually ranking you up with
55:07
a sub 50 % win rate. So like I don't want to
55:11
compare that system to Deadlock necessarily because
55:17
I hope there's more competitive integrity to
55:21
Deadlock I just have to kind of assume like I've
55:25
got like a thousand hours in the game. I'm explaining
55:28
like Very simple early game things to my teammates
55:32
that are in brick I am not supposed to be in
55:35
brick at this point and the the You know, I elo
55:40
hell is not real if you play enough games I think
55:44
because in the wash if you are a better player
55:47
and you're one of six Over the course of a thousand
55:50
games, you're gonna win more than lose and you'll
55:52
move out of your rank My only issue is that it
55:54
is just so painfully grindy. I don't really want
55:57
to play more than three games a day I really
55:59
don't. You know what I mean? I mean, I just want
56:01
to play a higher level. I want to play with people
56:02
who know what they're doing. Like when I get
56:04
that one game and I'm like playing with people
56:06
who have an idea of what the fuck they're doing,
56:08
it feels so good. Even win or lose. It just feels
56:11
great to be with people who are close to my level
56:13
or at my level or even above my level, whatever.
56:16
I I'm getting tired of having to I love teaching
56:19
people about the game, but I want it to be my
56:21
choice of when that happens. You know what I
56:23
mean? I don't want to be teaching people when
56:25
I'm in ranked and playing. And I'm explaining
56:28
like how basic systems of the game work. Right.
56:32
Sure. It's I don't know. Maybe I'm just really
56:35
cynical or just tired of it or something like
56:36
that. But that's definitely how it feels. We'll
56:39
see. I may feel differently about it if I am.
56:41
We were talking about possible deadlock streams
56:45
or these kind of things like, you know, we'll
56:47
see if I play more. Maybe it'll just be different.
56:50
But yeah, the game itself doesn't feel bad. I'm
56:53
actually feeling like my standard games are kind
56:55
of more Close than my like all of my ranked games
56:59
are like by 20 minutes. I pretty much know who's
57:02
gonna win. You know what I mean? We're either
57:05
destroying you enemy team or they're destroying
57:08
us. You know what I mean? It's it I think the
57:09
comeback mechanics need to be tuned a little
57:11
bit toward comebacks being more possible It feels
57:14
like whoever wins lane kind of just like if they're
57:17
if they like if you have a haze or a Wraith that
57:21
wins lane As long as they don't mess up horribly.
57:24
They pretty much just win the game I I don't
57:27
know if this is like this might be true. I if
57:30
it is true, I have no knowledge of it. That's
57:33
why I'm saying it. But in in some other games,
57:35
like when you get if there's a character that
57:38
like a player that dies over and over again,
57:40
when they die, the person who killed them gets
57:43
less souls from them because they're just. dying
57:45
over and over and over. And it's also supposed
57:47
to prevent people from farming and snowballing
57:51
too fast. And if you're like, oh, there's a guy
57:53
who's really terrible on the other team and he
57:54
keeps dying, he's not going to give up X amount
57:56
of souls every time he dies. Yeah. And then the
57:59
longer they're alive and whatever their soul
58:01
count that you get from killing them goes back
58:03
up. But I feel like right now it just feels like
58:06
you have one person on your team feeding and
58:08
it's just punishing to be like, oh, my God, this
58:10
fucking haze has. you know, 10 and 0 or whatever
58:13
the Shiv is like 10 and 0 at 10 minutes or 20
58:16
minutes or something crazy, right? Yeah, yeah.
58:19
No, so I think that that's not in this game.
58:21
I think what they do is if there is a fed person
58:25
on the other team, I think if you kill them,
58:28
they get a longer respawn timer and you get more
58:30
souls for killing them. I don't know that it's
58:32
true that I think you probably should have a
58:36
cap on like if somebody dies five times in five
58:38
minutes, like. Please give less souls to the
58:41
person killing them. Yeah, I I don't I mean,
58:45
I don't want to like just be like people who
58:47
suck shouldn't play the game. But I like I feel
58:49
like getting the rank system and ELO and MMR
58:52
stuff more tuned up. You just wouldn't have to
58:55
worry about this stuff as much. I mean, this
58:58
is this is not to me. It's not a problem of people
59:00
sucking like I sucked for 500 hours like really
59:03
badly. And I probably still suck in some of my
59:06
games, but. I'm not doing the kind of feeding
59:09
that is changing my games. Like I'm not doing
59:12
the kind of feeding anymore that just completely
59:16
puts a game to be one -sided like by the 10 minute
59:19
mark. You know what I mean? So it's, you know,
59:22
it is what it is. Hey, if you have a problem
59:24
feeding or you know someone who does, please
59:26
call the, please stop feeding hotline or email
59:30
us at deadlock .podcast at gmail .com. Also,
59:34
by the way, a friendly reminder that we do have
59:36
a discord with two people in it. To two very
59:42
passionate people. No, but we have it's me. It's
59:45
just me and you know, two very handsome gentlemen.
59:49
Their mother said so. And yeah, we could we're
59:53
building our little space up slowly and feel
59:57
free to go there and there's. places for you
59:59
to leave suggestions for the show and all that
1:00:00
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1:00:06
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1:00:08
we don't have a life. Just you and me in a cave,
1:00:14
just playing deadlock and or what are we in the
1:00:16
cabin? Right. We're in the cabin. Yes. Yes. But
1:00:19
yeah. So do you have any other thoughts about
1:00:21
like the, you know, main flow of the game right
1:00:23
now, how things are feeling? Or do you want to
1:00:24
move on to a little bit of deadlock lore? Brain
1:00:28
empty. I need deadlock lore. Do you want some
1:00:32
more deadlock lore? It's not Abrams. You'll have
1:00:39
to edit it. It's not. It's dead lore time. Spin
1:00:46
the wheel, Ryan! What? You're interrupting the
1:00:52
wheel. Who's answering this time? It's your turn
1:00:57
to guess. Okay, so I go back to spinning the
1:00:59
wheel that you really interrupted. Yeah. Yeah,
1:01:02
I have to grab it really hard with my hands.
1:01:04
No, I'm spinning it stop Weird wheels making
1:01:11
different sounds now Dead man Danny boom. Whoa.
1:01:22
What are the odd? I know what this shit's rigged
1:01:25
with the fuck He's just making it up with his
1:01:29
mouth. All right. This isn't a real wheel. So
1:01:34
Deadman Danny and not a lot of people know this,
1:01:38
but I'll come closer, kids. I'll actually give
1:01:42
you a little bit of not too close. Not not too
1:01:45
close. All right. Stay outside the personal bubble,
1:01:50
but come in as close as I want you to. Deadman
1:01:54
Danny is actually a time traveler. He's from
1:01:58
the 1970s. Radio Hour, the Dead Man Danny show.
1:02:04
And he also had a little bit of money inside
1:02:07
of Fairfax Industries, but that's a whole nother
1:02:09
story. Part of his thing was he was a late night
1:02:13
shock jock. And he would have girls come on his
1:02:17
show. And I think you know what they were doing.
1:02:23
They were telling stories of their travels to
1:02:28
France. Kissing on the lips. Yeah, so he's got
1:02:33
these girls that coming in, they're telling travel
1:02:36
stories, sometimes a little risque. You know
1:02:38
what I mean? He's gathering kind of a big fan
1:02:40
base. And this is the 70s. So it's all hookers
1:02:45
and blow and, and, you know, late 70s. Like,
1:02:51
did it? Yeah, they all they're smoking the the
1:02:54
ganj. There's rolling a spliff. And they he's
1:03:00
starting to get a little bit of trouble with
1:03:01
the law, right? The, you know, what do they call
1:03:04
it? The FCC. They're coming down on them. Reagan
1:03:09
administration's coming in as the 80s start hitting.
1:03:12
He's having a lot of trouble getting this product
1:03:15
to the people. They want to listen. There's no
1:03:17
such thing as a podcast. Lord knows that we would
1:03:21
be shut down. And so Ronald Reagan's like, get
1:03:24
this man off. The radio he keeps talking about
1:03:28
casting pods. podcast. I have no Reagan impression.
1:03:33
But yeah, that's the closest I got. I don't.
1:03:35
Yeah. And I want to believe that that's true.
1:03:39
That's something but and so how does he get out
1:03:44
of it? He goes to a mad scientist and says, Doc,
1:03:49
I need to get out of these charges remove all
1:03:52
of my muscles and skin. Right? That's by the
1:03:58
way exactly what I thought you I was like I really
1:04:00
hope that he gets his skeleton removed from his
1:04:02
body on purpose go on please yeah, and then Classic
1:04:08
kind of be careful what you wish for that ruins
1:04:11
his entire life his wife that he's cheating on
1:04:14
constantly leaves him the he can't even go to
1:04:18
his old blow dealer because he's like It's when
1:04:22
he sees his horrible visage and so He goes to,
1:04:26
you know, President Fairfax, whatever the fucking
1:04:29
guy's name is, Pocket's father, and he says,
1:04:32
I need to go back in time. I need to go back
1:04:34
to when that patron changed everything, right?
1:04:37
So then he gets in the time machine, he goes
1:04:39
back to Deadlock era, and then, voila, Deadman
1:04:45
Danny is in the game. That is... the cue, the
1:04:49
Billy Madison quote of, uh, that is the dumbest
1:04:52
thing I've ever heard. No, I, uh, I think that's
1:04:57
probably exactly what the lore is, right? Obviously,
1:04:59
uh, he's a time traveling. I think the trope
1:05:01
of a character being that they're a time traveler,
1:05:05
but only their skeleton was sent back. They're
1:05:07
sent to an animated skeleton and sent back as
1:05:09
I think, I haven't read the lore yet. I'm going
1:05:12
to read it to you in a second, but in no way,
1:05:14
shape or form. Do I think that that's the lore?
1:05:16
That should be the Laura of a character somewhere,
1:05:18
because that's hilarious. This just shows that
1:05:21
I have the least amount of time in game with
1:05:23
Danny to know what the fuck his story is So it
1:05:26
had to be completely made up. Well, he's I'll
1:05:28
tell you right now He's another one of these
1:05:29
characters that has a little bit more lore to
1:05:31
him Some of these characters have like three
1:05:32
sentences where they're like he he's a boss guy
1:05:35
who's got a cool gun Yeah, and he's wearing a
1:05:38
hat. He's the drifter, right? This is at least
1:05:42
we got like four little paragraphs here So let
1:05:45
me reveal you with his backstory the backstory
1:05:48
of dead man Danny. Ladies and gentlemen, in quotes,
1:05:53
I'm going to tell you a shocking secret, colon.
1:05:56
At Fairfax Industries, we know nothing about
1:05:59
safety. Now let me tell you something even more
1:06:01
shocking. That's a good thing. Now, in my tenure
1:06:05
here, I have been shot, stabbed, impaled, defenestrated,
1:06:08
blown up, atomized, and decapitated not once,
1:06:10
not twice, not thrice, but twice. That's right.
1:06:14
My head has been cut off enough times that I
1:06:16
had to use a made -up word to quantify it. But
1:06:20
I put myself through figurative and sometimes
1:06:23
literal hell because it's not enough to think
1:06:26
about how things go wrong We need to know how
1:06:29
things go wrong Now the demonstration you are
1:06:32
about to witness is extremely dangerous So sit
1:06:34
back put on your safety goggles and bear witness
1:06:37
to the miracle of flight courtesy of Fairfax
1:06:40
Industries and the Chimera mark one after a hyphen
1:06:45
that says, this description of Danny's opening
1:06:47
remarks at the Military Technology Expo has been
1:06:49
provided by Fairfax Industries. So he is a corporate
1:06:54
shill, literally, corporate shill the character.
1:06:59
Now I'm sort of getting that he's a little bit
1:07:01
like, what if, what's his name? The 1950s kind
1:07:08
of like, where's the American flag sort of colors?
1:07:13
motorcycle jumper. I'm forgetting his name. Evil
1:07:14
Knievel? Evil Knievel. Yeah, so he's sort of
1:07:17
like a what if Evil Knievel was a corporate shill
1:07:20
salesman, right? I'm not gonna lie. I knew that
1:07:22
he was kind of like a Fairfax Industries crony,
1:07:25
but I am a little bit disappointed that he is
1:07:27
just like the he is like the most egregious like
1:07:32
version of that. I think I don't know how I.
1:07:36
He's in. He's an arms dealer, right? I mean,
1:07:39
that's kind of. Yeah, I mean, we have that whole
1:07:41
bit. One of the last deadlock lower things we
1:07:44
did was McGinnis. And we were like, oh, shit,
1:07:45
she's actually pretty evil, all things considered.
1:07:48
Yeah. And you're like, oh, here's a no. I mean,
1:07:50
we know Fairfax industry is not a good place.
1:07:53
It's not a place that's doing good things in
1:07:55
the world. But like they are slowly building
1:07:57
it up into quite the evil entity here. Yeah.
1:08:04
That's so much cooler though. So he's actually
1:08:06
the evil Knievel test dummy corporate sort of
1:08:11
I mean Why is why are they testing on him though?
1:08:20
The guess that I'm getting is he's immortal in
1:08:22
some way and can't die because he also has a
1:08:24
voice line. I heard of ya I watched gameplay
1:08:27
where he was playing with vindicta and vindicta
1:08:29
He suplexes her and he's like that's where all
1:08:31
the times you've assassinated me Which I insinuates
1:08:36
obviously he has died many many times Yes, I
1:08:40
mean he he is the voice from the shop So it makes
1:08:42
sense that he is sort of like the corporate salesman
1:08:44
for their sort of wares, right? Cuz that is it
1:08:47
Fairfax industry that we're buying our items
1:08:49
as multiple sources If you go to the store, you
1:08:51
can see yeah. Yeah, so maybe the guns the gun
1:08:54
stuff is Fairfax maybe my so what something that's
1:08:57
interesting about this is that well first of
1:08:58
all There's a magic animating him. He's an animated
1:09:01
skeleton slash can't die person who keeps going
1:09:03
back to life What the real question is, what
1:09:06
kind of magic is it hearing and allowing him
1:09:08
to grow a mustache on his face? Or is he gluing
1:09:12
a fake mustache onto his skull? Because it's
1:09:15
growing gluing one on. Yeah. Does he have eyebrows?
1:09:19
Yeah. Does he have pubic hair? We don't know.
1:09:22
We should know. Please answer. Definitely has
1:09:24
pubic hair, but probably not. If you would like
1:09:26
to leak us information about whether or not Deadman
1:09:29
Danny has pubic hair, please email the. And the
1:09:34
thing I was going to say is that I know that
1:09:36
it's usually something that's illuminated in
1:09:38
the billions of voice lines that they have in
1:09:40
this game. But I would love in the lower section,
1:09:43
the backstory section, if they explained their
1:09:45
desire and reason for participating in the ritual,
1:09:49
because they all some of them very clearly have
1:09:53
reasons. And I'm kind of like, what the fuck
1:09:55
is this dude's reason? You know what I mean?
1:09:56
Like, he seems like he's just a shill. Is he
1:09:58
there to just sell products? He doesn't have
1:09:59
a reason. Because if so, that's hilarious. But
1:10:01
I would like to know. I mean, I maintain that
1:10:03
he wants his skin and muscles back. I bet you
1:10:06
that has something to do with it. You would just
1:10:07
fucking die again. He's obviously a very reckless
1:10:09
person. This is a true situation where I'm like,
1:10:13
I think it's fine the way it is, but I think
1:10:15
they should consider your pitch. I think that
1:10:19
my pitch was great. I think that my rat king
1:10:20
pitches or I mean, dude, why? Each of these characters
1:10:25
needs a wish. That's the main thing animating
1:10:28
their reason for being fighting for the patrons
1:10:31
thing, right? Yeah, maybe he actually is fine
1:10:36
with this and his thing is he wants Fairfax's
1:10:39
market share to grow this year. I will say some
1:10:42
of the other voice lines I've heard from him,
1:10:44
they feel like confused slightly. Like there's
1:10:46
one about Paradox buying stuff from him and he's
1:10:48
like, your money is no good here. You steal from
1:10:51
corporations or whatever. And I'm like, that's
1:10:53
not what an arms dealer would say. No, but he
1:10:57
is like he's he's on the books arm dealer like
1:10:59
it sounds like Fairfax is selling to the US government
1:11:02
That's why I mean this is going back into my
1:11:03
Reagan pitch from earlier, right? Yeah, no, I've
1:11:16
seen this movie. Yeah, I think he's a I I think
1:11:20
his character Backstory is not my favorite. I
1:11:23
think it's creative and interesting I It's not
1:11:26
my personal backstory where I'm like, Oh, dude,
1:11:28
this guy's fucking sick. But I do love his character
1:11:31
design. So that and his animations are hilarious.
1:11:33
So to me at all. No, I think he sucks. Least
1:11:37
interesting character to come out in this tranche
1:11:39
here. I can't wait. I want you to get hate mail.
1:11:42
I know that many people are not going to defend
1:11:43
him because he's not like a good character or
1:11:46
some like cool guy. But like, I hope that I hope
1:11:48
we start getting our first hate mail letters
1:11:50
to you. Yes, I'm also being a little facetious,
1:11:54
like he's fucking awesome. All these characters
1:11:56
are awesome. But, you know, it's fun to to hate
1:12:00
him. So I hate. Yarn just wants a character that's
1:12:02
just a pair of feet. Just a pair of feet with
1:12:06
tits on them. Oh, God. Coming as a surprise new
1:12:11
character. It's the broker, actually. That's
1:12:13
what they come out of this. The pair of dudes
1:12:16
with feet. What is this? Marvel? Yeah, no kidding.
1:12:23
So. go on what about you've heard of mcginnis
1:12:29
you've heard of mcgunnis what about mcgoonis
1:12:32
dead or locked would you like to see these characters
1:12:35
dead or would you like to see yourself locking
1:12:38
lips with them this is a hate kill fuck wait
1:12:43
no what is it marry kill kiss what am i embrace
1:12:47
hug and lick uh touch and hold cry and sniff
1:12:55
but we're getting rid of marrying and we're all
1:12:57
about killing and foot yeah there you go you
1:13:00
got it um dead or locked so this uh tranche of
1:13:07
dead or locked is going to be do you like that
1:13:11
i said tranche again tranche tranche yeah that's
1:13:15
the name of the boot with feet character yes
1:13:18
tranche oh god why does that fit so well you
1:13:23
It'll have just as deep and interesting a backstory
1:13:26
as most other deadlock characters. Four paragraphs
1:13:29
of nothing. No, by the way, again, we're joking.
1:13:33
We love this game, but Valve, please employ us.
1:13:37
So let's spin the wheel. Yamato or Paradox? We
1:13:45
already did Paradox. Yamato or Abrams? Okay,
1:13:52
look. What the fuck? No, no, let me, let me,
1:13:55
let me look through it. Let me look through it.
1:13:56
No, I want to do that one. I want to do that
1:13:58
one. You want to do that one? By the way, just
1:14:01
so you guys know, nobody knows this except for
1:14:03
me. For Omni, Abrams is like looking in the mirror.
1:14:10
So this is an easy one. Yeah, you have a very
1:14:14
similar build to Abrams. Do I want to kiss a
1:14:16
porcelain doll or the most handsome man I've
1:14:18
ever seen in my life? Big and blue with his big
1:14:21
strong hands. Yeah, I'm locking lips with Abrams.
1:14:24
This is the quickest fucking Dead or Locked ever.
1:14:28
That's good. That's good, honestly, because we're
1:14:29
going along this episode. Yeah, the lingering...
1:14:32
Here, let me set the scene. You come home, you
1:14:35
worked a long day, but you know who worked even
1:14:37
longer? Everyone's favorite detective private
1:14:40
eye, whatever the fuck Abrams is. He comes in,
1:14:43
oh, hey, babe. And you're just like, oh, I put
1:14:46
dinner on the table. It's ready for you. And
1:14:48
he goes, oh. And he comes behind you, puts his
1:14:50
big blue hands on your shoulders, and just comes
1:14:52
in for a kiss. You can smell the slight cigarette
1:14:55
smell from him smoking his fucking cigarettes
1:14:58
that he rolled himself of the cheapest possible
1:15:00
tobacco. And he goes, I've had a long day of
1:15:04
investigating sexual misconducts. He puts his
1:15:07
giant magic book on the table. It makes a big
1:15:09
thud. He puts his gun on the other side and he
1:15:11
eats the fucking What is Salisbury steak or whatever
1:15:14
fucking slop you made him? Oh, he acts like it's
1:15:16
the most delicious thing in the world because
1:15:18
you know what he fucking loves you and He he's
1:15:21
he slaps his hand on his lap. He goes, maybe
1:15:23
have a seat you sit on a big huge big huge blue
1:15:28
leg and you just snuggle him as he eats your
1:15:31
food and Yeah, your life is literally perfect.
1:15:34
I've described to heaven And Yamato is like a
1:15:37
weird fucking Cold porcelain doll character.
1:15:40
Yeah, no question dead a forehead forehead monster
1:15:44
Do I want to engage with a giant mechanical?
1:15:48
Haunted doll assassin or do I want to have the
1:15:51
most handsomest man? Forever yeah obvious easy
1:15:55
choice Abrams boom by the way within with a He
1:16:00
also has a Tie that doesn't work for his period
1:16:05
piece. He's got like a cool late 2000s skinny
1:16:09
tie from like, you know a pop punk band and he's
1:16:13
wearing it in 1920 whatever the fuck. It's probably
1:16:15
not a skinny tie. He's fucking huge He's just
1:16:19
massive Yeah, it's like those uh, it's like those
1:16:22
pictures of the like shack like holding a fucking
1:16:26
can of coke and like two fingers Imagine having
1:16:29
a relationship with the Hulk But he's blue, wears
1:16:33
formal wear, has a job, and doesn't have the
1:16:36
mental intelligence of a three -year -old. Easy
1:16:39
choice. Easy choice. Done. I mean, he's got to
1:16:42
be Hellboy inspired, right? I mean, that's how
1:16:45
it feels to me. But he has the big gun and everything,
1:16:47
the big revolver. I love Hellboy so much. So
1:16:51
even more reason. Abrams is a great character.
1:16:53
Who would you pick? Probably the opposite, because
1:16:58
I'm a straight man and the Abrams My only worry
1:17:02
here is that I wouldn't be able to kill Abrams
1:17:04
because he looks like he's about 700 pounds more
1:17:06
muscular than me. So maybe I could, I would probably
1:17:11
have to use my boy ass to. You're dead. You're
1:17:15
dead. My dad. I would have to like use my feminine
1:17:24
wares on him and then choke him out with his
1:17:26
fucking skinny tie. Yeah, I think I'm going for
1:17:31
the doll because That's true, but I don't think
1:17:38
I'm gonna fare a lot better with Yamato so I
1:17:39
might as well Fuck the my last fuck might as
1:17:43
well be with a first of all. It's a kiss on the
1:17:44
lips. Calm down. No one's what And I I'm gonna
1:17:52
go on a limit. I'm a toad only has one pair of
1:17:54
lips given the No, it's all about kissing and
1:17:57
fucking. We're starting with kissing. We're getting
1:17:59
to... Kissing and fucking. I meant to say killing
1:18:03
and fucking, which is the whole premise of dead
1:18:05
or locked, right? But I don't know. I mean, one
1:18:08
thing I will say, after having sex with Yamato,
1:18:11
I'm going to want Abrams to kill me, I think.
1:18:15
I'm going to want to be dead. We got to go back
1:18:17
on this. I know that you're escalating it, but
1:18:19
we are locking lips with the person. And we don't,
1:18:22
because some of these people, we don't even know
1:18:23
what intercourse would look like. Listen, we're
1:18:26
not gonna do graves. There's a couple like lips.
1:18:29
Okay, calm down, but also I'm not gonna lock
1:18:31
lips with a 14 year old anyways Okay, let's just
1:18:34
we'll leave out some characters Yamato is a full
1:18:37
-grown doll woman and Probably will psychologically
1:18:41
damage me looking at that. I'm gonna go back
1:18:43
and annotate that you hope Yes, yes. Yes. Yes
1:18:48
But yeah, I think that that's um I'm looking
1:18:53
at Venator. He's kind of a handsome man, right?
1:18:55
And then we're getting the goon slop character.
1:18:58
By the way, not what I would have expected from
1:19:01
the community. We got in all of the weird fucking
1:19:05
characters. We got in an old woman and now the
1:19:08
two attractive women are the last characters
1:19:11
to get voted in. Like, deadlock as a community,
1:19:14
big W. Knocked it out of the park. I mean, the
1:19:17
Goon stuff was obviously just, it felt like a
1:19:19
joke to me, because Violet is so far away from
1:19:21
actually being a Goon character. Nurse Hero,
1:19:24
I think would have been picked sooner if it wasn't,
1:19:26
I think people don't get excited about Healers
1:19:28
the way that I get excited about Healers. Hey
1:19:31
-o. No, but I do think that both of these characters,
1:19:34
I mean, dude, literally, both of these characters
1:19:37
have fucking smocks on. They're not Goon characters.
1:19:40
I just meant like women of an age where people
1:19:43
would be like, You know, objectifying probably.
1:19:47
Look, this is one of those times where all these
1:19:50
characters come out and you see how things shake
1:19:51
out. People are like, oh, Solomon's cool, Rat
1:19:54
King, Ha Ha Rats, lots of voice lines. And then
1:19:58
Baba, obviously cute, adorable, lots of great
1:20:01
character lines as well. Pigeons. Violet probably
1:20:05
is going to have some cool personality, I imagine.
1:20:07
Nurse Hero to me is going to come out and blow
1:20:10
all these fucking characters out of the water
1:20:12
in terms of the number of images and artworks
1:20:15
created, posted to DVNR and rule 34 and on X
1:20:19
or wherever else you fucking look at that shit.
1:20:22
And she's going to have to be her caked up stepping
1:20:25
on people. And that's going to be the Internet
1:20:28
for a day, if not more longer. Certainly my Internet,
1:20:31
my browser background for the owners making them.
1:20:35
Gunners make the mods. All right. No, but she
1:20:39
has a lot her character looking at her. She has
1:20:42
so much personality, like even her cufflinks
1:20:44
or like whatever's going on there is like weird,
1:20:47
like evil, interesting shape. And she's got the
1:20:50
fucking her like. Her fucking satchel has like
1:20:55
the beholder's eye on it. So maybe that's like
1:20:58
a sentient weird thing. Dude, she looks sweet.
1:21:01
I just fucking hope that we don't get a revival
1:21:04
Mercy mechanic in this game. I'm so sad. I mean,
1:21:07
you have her thing literally says strict, terrifying
1:21:10
savior. So I'm going to go ahead and say that
1:21:12
you should expect that to come because I have
1:21:14
a feeling she's going to ask me to revive. I
1:21:16
don't care about revise as much. I think that
1:21:18
you can. I mean, we already have read you. Right.
1:21:20
We already have cheat death. Like there's already
1:21:21
these things going on. There should be another.
1:21:23
radio of Cheetahs, Victor. But I'm surprised
1:21:27
that she didn't. I'm not totally surprised she
1:21:29
didn't get picked sooner, but I am surprised
1:21:32
that she's so far down the list, I guess, because
1:21:34
I like it like she's interesting visually, very
1:21:39
distinctive. Yeah. And I like I'm really wondering
1:21:42
what her kid is going to be similar to Solomon,
1:21:44
where I'm like, I couldn't possibly imagine.
1:21:47
Yes, I can guess she's going to heal people and
1:21:49
whatever. But I have a feeling she feels like.
1:21:51
a little bit Healy, but also maybe does some
1:21:54
kind of damage DOT stuff, like interesting utility
1:21:56
stuff. So I'm kind of curious to see what that
1:21:59
ends up looking like. I'm very excited to talk
1:22:01
about that next week. Yes, dude, 100 percent.
1:22:05
She'll definitely be out next week. Like I think
1:22:08
Violet is last, I would assume. I think they'll
1:22:11
both be fun to talk about, because I think that
1:22:13
whatever Violet is, I have to imagine that it'll
1:22:15
be really unique. I mean, I see my actual issue
1:22:19
with Violet. If that character comes out and
1:22:23
she is not super fucking interesting, it literally
1:22:26
says ambitious, nimble, creative, if the gameplay
1:22:28
of Violet is not creative and interesting, I
1:22:31
will be so disappointed, and I think a lot of
1:22:33
other people will too, because you have fucking
1:22:35
chess man literally doing chess in the game.
1:22:38
Yeah, I'm telling you, it's gonna be Super Mario
1:22:41
Sunshine, it's gonna be Splatoon, it's gonna
1:22:43
be AOEs on the ground painting things, she's
1:22:46
gonna be throwing papers in the air, I bet you
1:22:48
she's. I bet you she's more interesting gameplay
1:22:51
wise than my fucking I'm going to my quote earlier
1:22:53
about the squid and Mario Kart is going to go
1:22:57
through about shit. It's fucking getting jizzed
1:22:59
on my face. The disrespect to this game show.
1:23:03
Just fucking right squirting noises and just
1:23:06
your screen gets covered in goo. Thanks, Violet.
1:23:10
Yeah. I guess you're the real person to thank
1:23:13
for that. So what else you playing? Mostly with
1:23:19
myself. I'm drawing. I do art for people who
1:23:24
don't know. I do doodles and I do all the art
1:23:26
for the thumbnails and stuff like that. So I've
1:23:28
been doodling a lot and I've been playing. I
1:23:32
got a steam frame and I've been playing Beat
1:23:34
Saber again. That cardio. Oh, dad's need cardio.
1:23:38
Otherwise you die at 30. So I've been doing I
1:23:45
bought some packs and some custom tracks and
1:23:47
I've been. I've been doing a lot of beat sabering
1:23:50
that a headset does not last long. It's like
1:23:53
an hour and a half of battery life, which is
1:23:55
insane. Oh, really? It sucks. I mean, the two
1:23:58
the most recent like wireless headsets are like
1:24:01
that where they just have no battery life. So
1:24:02
I used to be very passionate about VR. I used
1:24:05
to like work in VR development stuff and it just
1:24:09
it's so sad to see like we haven't really gotten
1:24:11
that far. Like it's got it's better than ever,
1:24:14
but it's still like way behind. There's like
1:24:16
five games worth playing in total, which is like
1:24:18
nuts. What about you? Little Street Fighter six.
1:24:26
Yeah, I have my I, you know, I'm adults in Maine,
1:24:31
so that's always just something more stuff to
1:24:33
get better at. Just fun zoning people out. And
1:24:37
it's fun because so I started with JP in that
1:24:41
game and I got a really high MMR or like for
1:24:45
me, it's high and. And then I placed with Dalsim
1:24:50
and I got very low because he's just a very difficult
1:24:53
character. The fun with that though, is that
1:24:55
I am better than the people I'm playing. So I'm
1:24:57
just rising really easily. And I'm just beating
1:24:59
the shit out of people with Dalsim once I figured
1:25:01
him out. But yeah, that's pretty much it. And
1:25:03
honestly, not even that often. Like when I get
1:25:06
sick of losing in Deadlock because of teammates,
1:25:09
I go to a game where I am the only one who carries
1:25:13
myself or loses the games, right? And it's very
1:25:16
fun to just like... Even when I lose, I'm kind
1:25:19
of like, shit, how can I get in on Akuma? How
1:25:24
can I get in on Sagat or one of these characters
1:25:26
that kind of seems to do everything I don't?
1:25:30
You excited for the Street Fighter movie coming
1:25:31
out? I'm excited for it. I'm honestly not like
1:25:36
a big old head with Street Fighter stuff. I always
1:25:38
loved Smash Bros as far as fighting games go.
1:25:42
Kind of was in on Power Stone as a kid, but like...
1:25:45
Yeah, I don't have like a huge history with any
1:25:47
of these characters So I know people are mad
1:25:49
about XYZ people being cast to me. It just looks
1:25:52
like a fun movie It looks like a lot of a lot
1:25:54
of good imagery colors. Yeah. Well, the other
1:25:57
thing I'd say is that you are kind of doing a
1:26:01
little bit of streaming on the side as yarn and
1:26:05
We're gonna update the discord to notify when
1:26:08
we stream and do anything live So if anyone wants
1:26:11
to join us if you're still listening By the way,
1:26:14
statistically, I think like 60 % of people drop
1:26:18
off after we've finished our last deadlock segment.
1:26:21
And then this part is just the part where it's
1:26:24
just you and me and then like maybe two other
1:26:26
people listening to us talk about whatever the
1:26:27
fuck we're doing with our day. But if you're
1:26:30
a cool person and you want to be extra cool,
1:26:32
come say hello if we're streaming or something
1:26:34
like that. Because, you know, we're playing some
1:26:36
deadlock. We're doing some other, playing other
1:26:39
games and things like that, having fun. doing
1:26:41
dad stuff, hanging out, smelling weird, sitting
1:26:46
on the couch snoring, those things. I still have
1:26:48
no kids, but Dan Lok is a good name for podcast.
1:26:51
Well, once they go into the hole, you don't call
1:26:53
them children anymore, right? They're just they're
1:26:55
things that you have in the hole. That's what
1:26:57
you say. Yeah, I assume you mean like the Harry
1:27:01
Potter like little place you put them. You know,
1:27:04
you have a literal pit out in your backyard that
1:27:06
you put all of your offspring and that you disregard.
1:27:12
Very disconcerting, very disconcerting, very
1:27:14
worrisome. Call CPS! Child pit security, they
1:27:18
keep getting out! Alright, well, as always, dads
1:27:24
never say goodbye. Not for real, they only say
1:27:26
it at the end of a podcast. So we're gonna go
1:27:28
get some stuff at the store, right, Yarn? Cigarettes.
1:27:33
Yeah, get back in the van! And we'll see you
1:27:36
later, bye bye! Bye. differently abled human
1:28:09
potato he deserves to eat real human food his
1:28:14
own best friend a very talk -to -lip man picked
1:28:17
him up and brought him to the human zoo human
1:28:21
zoo human potato there you go yeah there's your
1:28:27
stable you can be an attraction to see everyone
1:28:32
will laugh and learn human zoo that's where they're
1:28:38
gonna put you in the human zoo that's where you
1:28:45
deserve to be don't worry they'll take care of
1:28:48
your needs