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Ep. 233 ~ Interesting Tidbits · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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folks, burst up. We have a CIA document in February sixth, thankteen
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sixty seven concerning what's actually it's from the Director Domestic Contact Service, the Chief
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of New Orleans Office concerning Harlow Springer and his Cossack Cuba store want to live
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in Dictatur Street, New Orleans, Louisiana, in response to a telephone call
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at the office during the afternoon of February the first, nineteen sixty seven from
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subject requesting an interview. Painter Link of this office met with him at his
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places in business, the Clothing and Notions Store, in the morning. Stevy
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second. The attached document forwarded for retention was submitted by a subject as his
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outline, but it suggested plan to counteract the communist propaganda which subject states is
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being widely circulated throughout Latin America to the effect that Lee Harvey Oswald was only
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a pawn in a plot by US far right elements to assassinate President Kennedy.
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Now it's funny he wants to say that. Yet he's also doing the tour
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with General Walker and the Reverend Reverend was it Billie Joel Hargis or Bobby Joel
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Hargess extreme far white when they are white, it seems far right elements who
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are suspected by some to be behind the assassination of President Kennedy. Uh subject
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says that he gets this information mainly from the many Latin American crew members of
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the merchant ships and Latin American tourists whom he hurt, whom he serves in
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his store, that the US is losing this propaganda war which is causing serious
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and growing damage to them of the US President Johnson, Cia, the Pentagon,
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and the FBI throughout Latin America. He believes that any overtly sponsored effort
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of the port of the US government were conducted by North Americans would be ineffective,
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and that any such effort should be carried out by Latin American newsmen,
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preferably in Spanish and Portuguese and local idioms and accents, under the covert tutelage
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and supervision of the appropriate US government agencies. So what he's saying here is
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that they should be doing their own kind of anti propaganda, anti communist propaganda,
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and he wants the CIA to sponsor and use Latin American people, and
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they're Latin in American extens Yeah. Source also said that the New Orleans DA
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Jim Garrison excuse me can inducting his own investigation of Oswald's role in President Kennedy's
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assassination at the probable instigation of one Sam de Pino, whose business cards the
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subject has and which shows him to be a television newsman connected to the local
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ABC station w VUE Channel twelve and with screen Gems Broadcasting of Louisiana, Inc.
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In this connection, source said that he was interviewed by two men from
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the DA's office, whom he was unable to identify, and that a friend
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of his by the name of Kiroga that would be They've been subpoened and personally
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interrogated by Garrison. We believe that there is some truth in the allegation of
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the Garrison investigation and that the matter is under a discreet and sensitive investigation by
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the FBI. Let me repeat that sentence for you people. We the CIA
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believe that there is some truth in the allegation of the Garrison investigation, and
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that the matter is under a inscreet consensitive investigation by the FBI. M Yeah,
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that part all right. Next up, we have a FBI document dated
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April the first April Fools Day, nineteen sixty four from the Special Agent in
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Charge of New York to the eight HUVA Director of the FBI. UM On
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March twenty six, sixty four, AH, there was a somebody NY three
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nine four eight C reported that he had a conversation with Dt Lee Won three
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twenty sixty four in which Lee mentioned to the informant that he had turned over
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one correspondence regarding the desire of Lee Harvey Oswald to establish a chapter of the
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Fair Play for Cuba Committee in Dallas to the FBI. The informant indicated that
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Lee also related that statements concerning the assassination of President Kennedy by individuals previously active
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in the FPCC declare that the president was actually assassinated by Dallas police officer Tippett.
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Also that one week before the assassination, Patrollman Tippett, the head of
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the John Birch Society in Dallas, and an unnamed third party suggested by these
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FPCC individuals, as highly as possibly being Oswald, were together and Jack Ruby's
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nightclub. We also stated that while Oswald was an FPCC advocate, he had
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also joined a number of anti Castro movements and was there for in position to
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know everything that was going on on both sides of the issues involved. Well,
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I don't know where old VTL is getting his information about Kennedy actually being
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assassinated by Tippett. But all righty, then, in the immortal words of
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Jim Carrey, all right step. An FBI report furnished to Special Agent James
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O'Neill and James Wallace from a confidential informant. On the evening of January the
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sixteenth, nineteen sixty four, a dinner sponsored by Orange Finton Potito was held
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at Donot's Restaurant, Haines Road, Saint Petersburg, Florida. The dinner meeting
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was informal in nature and approximately forty one persons were in attendance. The source
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has identified Potito as a member of the National States Rights Party in the spring
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of nineteen sixty three, at which time Potito resigned while holding the office of
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National Organizer since that time, Petito has held his own meetings under various titles,
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all of which are non existent organizations. He is not known to have
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any national affiliation at the present time, although he is in contact with various
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leaders of right wing groups in the United States excuse me. In the course
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of his speech of some three hours following the dinner, Potito touched on the
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association between Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby. Potito identified Ruby real name Rubinstein,
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as a Communist Party Men member since team twenty nine, and through this
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connection, linked him to Oswald. He identified Oswald as a Communist through his
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association with the Fair Play for Keeber Committee. According to Petito, only two
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organizations knew the route of the parade in Dallas on November twenty second for any
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period of time prior to the parade, and these two were the United States
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Secret Service and the Dallas Police Department. Now Ruby had insinuated himself with the
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police department circle, obtained the route and arranged with Oswald to take a job
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at the State School building along the route to carry out the assassination, Tito
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said. The Surgeon General's report on the assassination stated that the first bullet entered
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the President's throat below the Adams Apple, clearly showing that two persons at least
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two persons were involved with the first shot being fired from the bridge across the
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parkway in front of the car. Further substantiate this, Petito said there was
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a bullet hole in the windshield of the President's car. Of course we've all
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heard that before, you know, But is it just a crack or was
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there a whole? I mean, I know at some point somebody said that
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they could stick their pencil through the hole after observing this a Parkland hospital.
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And of course there's some windshield fuckery, as we like to call it around
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here. I believe Douglas Wildon has done the most extensive research into the windshield
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of the President's limousine, and there was definitely some fickery. Who going on
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there believing people? All right? Next up? Uh, you know,
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we've always speculating how great it would be. You know, we have a
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lot of the CIA files, a lot of the FBI files, some Secret
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Service documents, not all of them, since they learned a lot of them.
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We always speculated how nice it will be to get the I and S
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documents pertaining de Lee Harvey Oswald well, they have an FBI file here just
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a memorandum to file from Asian Paul Wallet. December third, nineteen seventy five
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a telephone conversation with Wendell. Following up on yesterday's initial phone contact, I
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spoke with Roache this afternoon for about twenty minutes. He again was cooperative and
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agreed to the DC as long as it was cleared with his the period.
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Roach explained, but in nineteen sixty three he was in charge of the New
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Orleans Border Patrol Station, Station Senior, which was not in the Customs house
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building. The station reported directly to the New Orleans District Office, which at
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that time was run by Edward fuck Bob Brewer was then in charge of the
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b R section in the Regional Ionen's office in Richmond, Virginia. According to
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Roach, ion s's role is to determine who is an alien and prevent unauthorized
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border crossings. However, frequent additional requirements were levied upon ions, such as
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supplementing federal marshals in the instant areas. New Orleans was charged with the responsibility
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of surveilling various Cuban groups in New Orleans. Although Roach cannot specifically recall who
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initiated the requirement he assumed as it came through justice and stated that could be
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clearer on the details. Included in this surveillance was a group of nuts.
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No, you dirty minded people, not those kind of nuts, crazy people
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like David Ferry. Roach knew the details on Ferry, I e. His
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dismissal from Eastern Airlines, homosexual with reverse tendencies, nuttier than a fruitcake,
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in quotes, etc. He stated that Ferry's office, on a side street
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between Saint Charles and camp Will have a street map for him was under surveillance,
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although he never surveiled it. Another inspector drove him past it and identified
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it to him. That Lee Harvey Oswald was identified by I and S as
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an American when he first appeared on the New Orleans Streets scene, who does
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not recall the circumstances surrounding this identification, was seen going into the offices of
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Ferries Group, and Oswald was known to be one of the men in the
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group. Roach was aware that Ferries Group was anti Castro, that Ferry had
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a plane at the airport, and that it was believed that Ferry was going
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to take his brigade, which was being trained by a six foot x marine
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at Lake Country train to Cuba. Who further stated that Ferry like young men.
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It was known to give these guys all sorts of pills at the training
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camp and take movies of them. Wow okay. Roach stressed at the New
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Orleans Police Department, specifically the Intelligence Division and the East Medary's Arab's office had
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reports one fairies nutty group. He added that Garrison had something. I read
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his reports in the newspaper and they were correct. He received good intelligence information,
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whether he was using it for politics or not. Roach also noted that
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Garrison was all eyes and ears in the French quarter and that he had heard
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Serry was running when he was killed. Roach did not know one whether Oswald
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ever visited the training camp. Who about any organized crime tie in three about
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Oswald being arrested for getting into a fight, four about Oswald's alleged anti Cuban
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politics, five, whether Oswald had any contacts with other law enforcement and or
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intelligence agencies six of a restaurant called Pedro's seven specific dates for any facts described
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here in Roach himself and seeing Oswald on only one occasion when Oswald was handing
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out handbills at a point not too far to Examson squat, also not too
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far from the trademark. The most interesting occurrence was touched on by Roach.
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He related that Ron Smith happened to receive a call from the New Orleans Police
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Department, which at that time at Oswald and custody. Apparently Oswald would only
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speak Russian, and the New Orleans PD conducted that he was Russian. Smith
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went to the NPD, and Roach believes that he identified Oswald as an American
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citizen, and after calling his bluff, Oswald the peak in English. So
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we got mister Oswald, the funny guy over here, you know, holding
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the police and just speaking Russian. And they thinking they had themselves, they
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called themselves a real life kami Russian nod. I'm really American. H I
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got you guys, I'm speaking English. Yeah, So Stephen Oswald had a
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sense of humor, folks. Roach does not know if Smith filed a report,
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He did state that he talked to Smith about it two weeks ago,
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adding that he had no injection. So by telling Smith that he referred me
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to him, we generally discussed ions his record keeping. Apparently almost all of
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Roach's reports to cup were oral, thankfully, and not anal. He does
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not believe that any reports were written on the A formentioned points, with the
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exception of the levying of requirements on its. Roach had limited, if any
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contact with the Breeze or any other FBI or CI agent I knew him.
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He also told me that ion S did not have informant in these groups.
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No idea of anyone that had. I asked Rouch who else besides up Smith,
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and he was likely to have known about Oswald. I assume we can
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get ions records, he suggested Muscle Bruce Ions local Investigations office would have checked
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out Cubans in Dallas, but to get their agents lists. Two interesting asked
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up some documents about somebody that I've had a lot, not a lot of
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similar quests to cover or here on the show the CIA, I said,
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by the name of William George Valdin or all day, however you want to
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say it. So. FBI document dated November twenty seventh, nineteen sixty three.
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William George god A elephonically contacted his agent advised that he had heard Jack
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Ruby from Dallas had purchased paintings from one of Lorenzo Borenstein, who wasn't heard
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how he's somewhere in the five hundred block of Royal Street. All Day also
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stated that he did not know what dates Ruby bought these paintings. And that's
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about it for the FBI document taken by a special agent John Miller in New
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Orleans from November twenty, seventy sixty three. Again, so why is this
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guy interesting? Well, all September seventeenth, nineteen sixty three, Oswald visited
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the Mexican Consulate in New Orleans, where he was a sixteen gay tourist card
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number two four zero eighty five. The man whose tourists card was apparently issued
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directly before Oswaltz was William George Gaudette, who told the FBI on eleven twenty
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seven that he was a former employee of the CIA, impairing information garnered from
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Oswaltz and Cauday's tourist card applications. Two things are possibly significant. First,
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all of the nineteen people who appeared that the consulate on September seventeenths had their
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names listed in BC seventy five in the order of first name, middle last
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name, except for Oswald and Gaudett. The former's name was mistakenly inverted Harvey
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Oswald Lee in the latter's let's as Gaudette William George. This is probably innocent,
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as Oswald's inversion was plausibly explained by the bunching together of Harvey Oswald on
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his application, thus suggesting Lee was his last name, as Gaudette probably filled
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out his application Baudet William George, and he appeared before Oswald. This might
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have influenced a consulate employee to think Oswald's name was an inversion as well.
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Researchers are free to come up with other explanations from this coincidence. Another minor
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point is that of the nineteen people appearing on nine seventeen, only Gaudet,
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Oswald and one other person and Arthur C. Mason a six month tourist card
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listed tourist as the purpose of their trip. I guess the others were business
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or a vacation. Curiously enough, god Day's name appears in the hearings and
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exhibits on a completely different matter. Commission Document to eight eight zero NFBI report
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relates to William George Goldett telephone in the New Orleans FBI regarding Jack Ruby buying
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paintings from Lorenzo Bornstein and or New Orleans. So yeah, we uh we
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got that one. Um, this one is interesting. A little bit more
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on galdebt okay, and this comes from an interview of mister Golday Baldet I'll
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say both ways, get off my ass by Budge Finsterwal in nineteen seventy five.
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He writes that gall Day is now sixty seven years of age and in
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poor health. Sin I retired rights for local newspaper. During World War Deuce
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gall Day worked as a secret agent in Latin America for Nelson Rockafella, coordinator
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of Latin American affairs under FDR. He switched over to the CIA in nineteen
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forty seven and worked for them until nineteen sixty nine. During this time he
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published Latin American newsletter in Latin American Report, which he claims were one hundred
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percent commercial ventures and not CIA fronts. Okay, George. However, he
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traveled constantly in Latin America and combined his commercial work with the CIA. Assignments
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the Ladder, according to him, were basically uncompensated. H'carry George. Some
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expenses were paid up four f the CIA and done for patriotic purposes. There
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were three others in the New Orleans area who did likewise. Was one of
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them clay Shaw. There George all Day, as a right wingers, generally
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disliked names change. He kept the CIA activities very secret, not even Tony,
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his wife. He only told the FBI in nineteen sixty three. He
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told, never told anyone else. Latin American newsletter cost fifty teen dollars a
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week. Go damn, that's highway robbery in the sixties, Jesus. But
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the CIA and the KGB had an access and excess of twenty subscryptians and lord,
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which means that each of the subsidized no, which means that each of
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them subsidized all day to the tune of more than fifteen thousand dollars annually,
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which wasn't too bad in the sixties. So he was compensated in other ways,
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even if not directly. You know what I'm saying. As to the
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JFK sling, he believes the Warn report is a fairy tale which shall become
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completely unglued very soon. He believes that antichastro forces were involved, and personally
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believes that they had a right JFK. He thinks the plot was hatched soon
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after the Bay of Pigs and came to fruition in nineteen sixty three. As
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to happen the Mexican travel permit serially next to Oswald's, call Day explains that
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it was a complete the incidents and then he never met Oswald. He backs
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and yeah, he backs and fills on whether he flew to Maritta or Mexico
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City. What is more interest is the fact that he was interviewed three times
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by FBI about it. Before telling them anything, he checks with Bill,
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the CIA station chief in New Orleans, who in turn checks with Langley,
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and it has decided that call Day should answer questions regarding the Mexican trip,
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but nothing more, and FBI promises to keep gall Day's name to itself and
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save his cover. Apparently they did so until nineteen seventy two, when his
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name was inadvertently declassified. Galday says the FBI report about his having reported Ruby's
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buying paintings from Boringsteam, it is a complete fabrication. He didn't know either
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Bornstein or Ruby, and he wouldn't volunteer at the time of Day to the
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FBI, well that's that's goddamn odd right. Why would somebody, Why would
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somebody telephone and a tip to the FBI about some random Jack Ruby buying a
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painting in New Orleans? Once, that's weird. Well day. He says
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he never met Oswalt, and then he only observed him on a sea.
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In any event, he describes him as a miserable little creature who would do
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anything for money, like believes he was being financed by someone. Seriously doubts
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if he could have pulled off the rifle fire and Daily Plasma as LHA was
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terribly nervous and disorganized. So for somebody who doesn't know jack shit about Oswald,
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he's sure sounds like he knows a lot about Oswald, you know what
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I'm saying. Believes that LHO worked both sides of the Cuban street and quotes
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doesn't really admit to knowing what he was up to. Rumored to have an
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office in a building immediately across the street from the trademark. He knew that
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LHO went to Mexico by bus without DAT and drive and CIA set up in
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New Orleans in detail large offices with approximately redactive people similar to CIA set up
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in all ports, unmarked office and listed phones New Orleans office headed by Bill
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and quotes a lawyer prominent family Debutan daughter. Since learned that Bill is redacted
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and offices redacted. CIA New Orleans closed circuit. The Langley CIA only paid
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goll Day's special travel expenses when their tasks and be done on his regular trips.
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All Day was once flund to Langley to brief CIA on Latin American affairs.
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Laughs when he thinks of Rockefeller as head of a commission to study either
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the CIA or Dallas. Ferry New Lho and Shaw. But Shaw wasn't CIA
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and had nothing to do with Dallas. Okay, thanks e. Howard.
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Hunt knows more about Dallas than any other person he can think of. Hunt
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was God to the Cubans, and he is certain that the CIA sent Hunt
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out immediately after Dallas to see what he could find out about a quote human
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connection. All Day knows of Lho's cousin, Marilyn Merritt, and then diligence
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connection capacity says that Sergio or conscious Smith should be cross examined if alive and
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subpoena bull. Subpoena a bull. On June fifteenth, nineteen seventy eight,
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after Golday testified this committee that his last contact with the CIA was during the
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year nineteen sixty nine, though he has never formally terminated his relationship with the
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CIA. We just kind of stopped calling each other, you know, just
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kind of fell off, just a you know, grew apart, basically.
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M Mister Garday also testified concerning S Special Agent Miller's November twenty seven report,
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which were accorded Allday's agency affiliation. Calday stated he revealed his CI emplumentum after
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I checked out the CIA, and it was supposed to have been super classified.
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It was never to be released, and it was the circumstances the CIA
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gave me authority to tell the all. Day added that the head of the
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CIA in New Orleans was with me when I made it the disclosure call.
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Day testified that it travels to Merida, Mexico on September nineteenth and into Central
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and South America was not an intelligence related activity. Whatever he did state,
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I won't make a blanket statement. I did not. I just don't recall
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the Select Committee question mister Calday regarding his knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald, Well,
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they testified to practice the assassination. He did not know Oswald, but
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had observed him not from his office at the International Trademark in New Orleans,
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passing out fair play for Cuba pamphlets. I remember specifically that Lila Pinson,
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who worked for me, wanted me to talk to him and do a story
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on him. The man so impressed me that I was not interested in doing
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a story, and since I was, I'm sorry. The man so unimpressed
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me that I was not interested in doing a story, and since I was
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the boss, I said no. All Day further stated that he had observed
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Oswald in conversation with Guide Banister. I saw him Banister in deep conversation with
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Lee Harvey Oswald on a champ Street, right by the post office box.
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They were leaning over and talking, and it was an earnest conversation. What
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it was about, I don't know. All Day further testified that Oswald and
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Banister appeared to be acquainted with each other, and the Banister was requesting Oswald
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to do something for him. Call Day's only other knowledge of Oswald came through
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her friend named Ed Butler, who had conducted an interview for radio with Oswald,
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to which gall Day remembered listening to So there's our adventures in William gall
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day Land, folks. For somebody who doesn't know a lot, here there's
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a lot, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, here's a fun one.
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From January twenty eight, nineteen sixty four, CIA documentary informant advised that
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he had been in contact with one Manuel Noriega, communications man of the df
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AS in Mexico City. Noriega advised that won Gloria Sariago, a relative of
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Amalia Castilla Laedoon, sub Secretary Public Education, Mexico City, had crossed the
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border at the Radio Texas in late November of nineteen sixty three, and while
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talking to an American immigration officer who was shown a photograph of the subject.
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Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ribby both these individuals in the same photograph. The
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photo was supposedly taken in October sixty three. According to the third hand information,
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Gloria Tyaga is an employee of the Commercial Transports of Mexico City, phone
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number thirty Dash seventeen Dash eighty seven to this thing into resting. Next up,
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we have a now Joe Tannehill, who was a Ruby's trial lawyer,
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now. Joe Tannehill was inducted into the Crowd Lawyer Hall of Fame in twenty
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eighteen. And here's a quick two minutes induction ceremony for Joe Tanehill, back
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Ruby's Lawyer. You know I think this here it is. Joe Tannehill was
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born in nineteen fourteen. He attended the University of Texas before becoming a lawyer
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in Jasper, Texas. A former wrestler, Tanehill was six feet four and
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weighed over three hundred pounds. Joe Tannehill was a larger than life legal giant
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who, coming from humble beginnings, made it his life's work to be a
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people's lawyer, while earning international acclaim along the way. In nineteen thirty five,
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Tannahill enrolled at the University of Texas to study law, but graduated in
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nineteen forty one from the American University College of Law. During World War Two,
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Tannahill served in the Navy. After the war, he moved to Jasper
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to start a law practice with Joe Fisher. He practiced law in Jasper for
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more than half a century, but he also tried cases all across the country,
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including his highly publicized presence on the Jack Ruby defense team when in November
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nineteen sixty three he was employed by Jack Ruby as his attorney and worked with
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Melvin Belli on defending him against the charge of murdering Lee Harvey oswald Tonahill distinguished
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himself as a co founder of the American Trial Lawyers Association and went on to
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co found the Texas Trial Lawyers Association, where he served as president, as
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well as the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, International Academy of Trial Lawyers,
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and the International Society of Barristers. He was also a pioneer in worker
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protection, product liability, juror reform, and other areas. Joe's son,
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Joe Tannehill Jr. Said of his father, he worked hard on his cases
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and seemed to take them very personally. He lived the law and breathed it.
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What a lovely, lovely induction ceremony from mister Joe Tannehill. He was
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quoted as saying, I always hated to see my cases in because the experience
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was so exhilarating. All right, So this is an FBI document from the
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Las Vegas office to the Director of the FBI Jaka Hiva and Dallas, dated
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March seventeen sixty seven. This date, Howard Goodwin, Associate director of Sales
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at the Sahara Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, and former special Agent of
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the FBI, advised the American Trial Lawyers Association as presently conducting a seminar at
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the Sahara. Goodwin stated that in connection with this seminar, that Joe Tonnehill
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of jazz Per Texas and a co council and the Jack Ruby Case will hold
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a press conference at eleven am on March the eighteenth at the Sahara Hotel.
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That work television coverage has been arranged for this press conference, in addition to
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coverage by national press representatives. At this conference, Hannah Hill allegedly planned to
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disclose three items bearing on the death of Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby.
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Item one, Oswald died as a result of a shop brought and run by
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the improper administration of medications in the hospital in Dallas, Texas. An item
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too, the cancer from which Jack Ruby died so widespread that it had to
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have been artificially introduced into his body. The third item is to be disclosed,
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but the third item to be disclosed by Joe Tommy Hill is not known
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the good one yet The above is submitted to the Bureau in Dallas for information
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only. So apparently Tommy Hill had information that they actually the gunshot didn't kill
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Oswald. It was improper administration of medications in the hospital is what killed him.
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See it wasn't Jack Ruby. And that the cancer from which Jack Ruby
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died was so widespread that it had to have been artificially introduced into his body
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just had to be, had to be. According to the official record,
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Jack Ruby helled by what is it called an embolism due to lung cancer.
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Um Dallas Deputy Sheriff Albant exclaimed that Ruby told me, he said, well,
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they injected me for a cold. He said it was cancer sales.
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That's what he told me. Ruby did. I said, you don't believe
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that bullshit? He said, I damn sure do. One day, when
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I started to leave, Ruby shook hands with me and I just deal a
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piece of paper in boom. It was a note in which Ruby claimed that
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he was part of the conspiracy and then the roll was to silence Oswald.
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That long before Ruby died. According to an article in the London and The
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London Sunday Times. Yeah. Build psychiatrist Warner puter that the assassination was an
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active overthrowing the government, and then he knew who had President Kennedy killed.
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He added, I am doomed. I do not want to die. I'm
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not insane. I framed. It's still Oswald. Now. I've also read
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and tried to find where I found it, but it's very difficult to find.
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But that Ruby actually had cancer, I believe in the early sixties,
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and he knew it, and of course they treated him for it and every
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thing else, but he knew he was not long for this world. Um
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or maybe he didn't. I don't know how they viewed cancer back in the
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early sixties. That they viewed as a distance, they viewed as as something
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that was treatable, to say, oh man, you got cancer. Now,
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you know, here, take these vitamins and these pills, and you
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know, it'll keep you alive as long as we possibly can, but definitely
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it's going to get you. You know, you might have a couple of
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years. And maybe that's why Ruby was so working out every days, swimming
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at the buy, taking all these vitamins and pills to try to, you
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know, keep him going. Um, maybe it was that was because of
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his cancer diagnosis, But to say that, you know, he was injected
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with the rapid form of cancer, it's just is ridiculous. He always had
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the cancer in him, who just finally got him in nineteen sixty seven.
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Probably along with his you know, stress and anxiety and being prisoned for four
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years, probably wasn't very helpful to him because he probably can't get the proper
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medical care that he could have but he could have gotten had he not been
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inforce rated. That is often heard myth. See here George Faraldo, he
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is a former manager of the key West Airport, reported seeing Oswald and Ruby
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in the key West terminal going their way to Cuba with fair Play for Cuba
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Group, a former contract for the US Information Agency Serial Auto Audio and Photo
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Reconnaissance expert key West. So what this guy saying is Miami by Airtel dated
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eight twenty five, seventy six submitted an LHM reporting results of interview with George
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Farrado at Qwest, Florida. Farrado advised and in his elite for the In
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the late summer of sixty two or early sixty three, a group of persons
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known as Fair Played for Cuba, assemboled at the Qwest Airport while waiting the
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arrival of a Cuban transport aircraft. Farrado claims that Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey
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Oswald were in this group the plans and took those still photographs and movie film
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of this group. He alleges he mailed the movie film to Ralph Rennick,
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a news reporter in Miami, for whom he worked as a stringer, and
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he mailed the still film ground and below to the FBI headquarters. He stated
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he included a note in the envelope which stated only fair play for Cuba.
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Miami is continuing investigation. This advises Miami and Dallas of results of the indices,
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SIRT. So that would be interesting if we had photos and movies of
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Oswald and Ruby together that mysteriously disappeared. Shocker, all right. Next up,
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it's more fbis in view of the extensive inquiry into the revel hosting controversy
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during the assassination investigation, it does not believed further comment warranted as the facts
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of this matter still are well known to the Bureau. From the comments on
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page seventeen and twenty one concerning Oswald being known to the FBI it was likely
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re years will again question why the Dallas PD was not alerted to Oswald's presence
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in Dallas. The Bureau is well aware that the criteria for alerting the local
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police agencies to entertain individuals did not require such notification at the time of the
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assassination. On page forty six, Exhibit eleven, there's a photograph were reflecting
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officers examined an area for bullet fragments. One hunder Widchard states in part an
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FBI agent Griff Bill Decker and the Dallas Police officer inspect the area for bullet
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fragments and comments on page forty six that a bystander, James Tay, claimed
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to have been cut on their cheek by ricochet from a bullet which struck a
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curb, and that a visible mark was left on the curb, but was
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almost entirely ignored by the FBI until months later. Dallas teletype to Bureau in
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New Orleans dated well fifteen sixty seven, pointed out to the Bureau that Deputy
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Sheriff Buddy Walters, DA County Sheriff's office ceased and reportedly stated he was the
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individual appearing in the photograph rather than Sheriff Decker Dallas Air Telly Bureau dated twelve,
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nineteen sixty seven, pointed out that efforts to identify the alleged federal agent
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and such photograph were naked on page sixty one. Dallas Police Chief Jense Curry
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states that about ten months after the assassination, Dallas Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig discussed
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the shooting with mister Missus Arnold Rowland, and then Arnold Rowland indicated he had
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looked up at the Tennis school Book Depository window and noticed two men standing together
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in the window. One man was holding a rifle, standing with the other
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man a few feet back from the corner on the sixth floor. Curry states
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that mister and Missus Roland were then referred to the FBI, who interviewed them,
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but no statement about the second man or mentioned of an accomplice appeared in
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the FBI reports. The reports of Special Agent Mother Jimberling, dated November thirty
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or sixty three, reflect the interviews with Arnold Roland and also set forth background
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investigation concerning Roland. Next up December six, sixty three. Missus Tony Henderson,
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Graie Creek, Dallas, Texas, fronts the following information. One November
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twenty sec nineteen sixty three, at approximately twelve fifteen pm, who was standing
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on the east side of Llan Street, just north of Houston Street, awaiting
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the passing of the presidential motorcade. He said, shortly after she arrived,
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and just prior to the arrival of the motorcade, she recalls an ambulance arriving
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in department areas to pick him an individual and she understood an epileptic fit.
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Missus Henderson said, after the ambulance departed the area, he heard a woman
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in the Dallas County Records Building located in the southwest corner of Elmy Houston,
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Yale YEAH Woodman, which is the Dallas High School. Then she looked in
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the direction from which the Yale emanated, She said. She thereafter swung around
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and looked in the building in which she works, the building located on the
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southeast corner of Almany Houston, and thence around to the Textas school Book Depository
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building. She said she observed numerous people on the various floors looking out of
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the windows of the Texas school Book Depository falls. We saw two men on
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one of the upper floors of the building. She said she recalls one of
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the men had on a white shirt and one a dark shirt. She said
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only shibserve these men from the waist up and does not know what their other
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attire consistent of. She said these men were standing back from the window and
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she got the impression that they were working and yet looking out the window.
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Said he saw these men before the motorcade reached Houston and Elm, but doesn't
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have any idea how long it was prior to the motorcade arriving at that location.
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Who said she believed person in the white shirt had dark hair and was
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possibly a Mexican, but could have been a Negro as he appeared to be
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dark complexioned, and said she couldn't describe the other person other than the fact
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that he was taller or appeared taller than the aforementioned individual. Now just an
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aside here, folks, and this is just the spitballing, of course,
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you know, and in previous shows and through various other testimony and evidence and
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all of that jazz, you know, I think we've established that mister Bonnie
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Ray Williams, we know was up on the sixth floor like the school book
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depository. I believe he qualifies as a light skinned Negro and could possibly appear
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as a Mexican or no from you know, stair distance away. You know,
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you know, we know that guys owned admission. Ray was up on
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the sixth floor. Possibly it's like a twelve fifteen, twelve twenty five,
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which is when this woman and the rolland say that they saw two men up
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there in the window. Now, from photos of Bonnie Ray being arrested and
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stuffed unceremoniously in the back of the hop card, you know, the arrest
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of the floor crew, we see the Bonnie y Williams has on a dark
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shirt, and we know that Oswald was likely wearing a white T shirt that
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day, which is what several people said that he saw him working in.
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He probably had on a button up shirt. It probably took it off while
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he was working, so he was just in a white T shirt and he
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had dark hair. So my assumption is that possibly Henderson that these two individuals
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shirts mixed up and actually the the Negro had on the dark colored shirt and
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the white haired or the white dark haired man had on the white tshirt,
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which can give us Bonnie Ray being up on the sixth floor with Oswald or
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Inn Oswald or some other random white dude that looked like Oswald who may have
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told him, look, man, I'm going to kill the president when he
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goes by here. Your best bet would be to get the fuck out of
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here. You say anything, I'll fucking kill you. I know who you
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are, I know where your family lives. I will fucking kill you.
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And then Williams hottails it down the floor, tells these other two cats what
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he what he just saw, and then it goes down and they gets ed
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shitless. Take them up with some cockamamie ass story. I'm just saying it's
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not out of the realm of possibility, folks, you know, just saying,
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possibly could have happened, Barrett in my mind. Next up from the
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HSCA in March fifteenth, nineteen seventy eight, from an interview with Joseph Goulden.
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Goulden Robert Jensman interviewed Joseph Golden at his home concerning an article which Goulden
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wrote in the Philadelphia Inquirer the eighth, nineteen sixty three. A legend.
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At the FBI, they tried to recruit Lee Harvey Oswald as an informant In
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nineteen sixty three, Golden stated that he obtained the story from two sources,
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Dallas Deputy Sheriff Allen's Sweat, now deceased, in an individual he declined to
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identify. He did state that Alonzo Lonny Hunkins was not the source who had
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stated that he relied on the word of his sources and never obtained any other
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evidence substantiating the allegation. He believes that his sources were relied important the fact
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that the FBI agent James P. Hosty's telephone number was found in Oswald's notebook,
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and possibly on the fact that an informant number was found among Oswald's possessions
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after his arrest on November twenty two, nineteen sixty three, who had stated
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that his memory on these matters is unclear, left in arresting. Instead,
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we have a Secret Service memo random from November the tw nineteen sixty three,
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information obtained at the Dallas office. During the interview of the subject's wife,
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it would be my Marina. She advised that the FBI had contacted her about
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the location of her husband ten days prior to the assassination, and she had
1:00:22
told them that her husband worked in the building from which the president had been
1:00:25
killed. She also stated that she had been interviewed in October and leave the
1:00:31
same basic information to the FBI. I was at the police station. I
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engaged an FBI agent in conversation and found out that he was on the subversive
1:00:42
desk. He stated that Oswald had contacted who knows subversive agents about fifteen days
1:00:50
before the shooting, but the entire inflammation was top secret and he could not
1:00:54
tell us anymore, but he thought sure that the file would be turned over
1:00:59
to our chief. The wife also advised that she had seen the rifle that
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was used in the shooting at her home about three weeks before the shooting.
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She advised that she was a Castro supporter and Communist, and from the interview
1:01:15
it felt like she is still a hardcore communist. He stated that he had
1:01:21
never mentioned killing the president, but would not mention anything about shooting Connolly.
1:01:27
It stated that she did not know the man that killed her husband. It
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was felt by the interview that she was not telling the truth and still believes
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firmly in communism. William H. Patterson Special Agents, So there you haven't
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bay that ye oh, where oh, look at my African American over here,
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