Latest / The Inspired Stories Podcast / How Post-COVID Hospitality Changed Everything: Kim Halloran's Industry Insights
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- 0:04Welcome to another edition of the Inspired Stories podcast,
- 0:07where leaders share their experiences so we can learn from
- 0:10their successes and be inspired by how they've overcome
- 0:13adversity. My name is Anthony Kotaspodi and
- 0:16today's guest is Kim Halloran, Managing Partner at The Capital
- 0:20Grille. This upscale dining restaurant,
- 0:22founded in 1990, is famous for its comfortable elegance, dry
- 0:26aged steaks, fresh seafood and award-winning wines.
- 0:30They create extraordinary dining experiences by focusing on
- 0:34exceptional ingredients and world class service.
- 0:38Kim has been with The Capital Girls since April 2010 and
- 0:41brings over 3 decades of experience and hospitality
- 0:44leadership. She has held leadership roles in
- 0:47notable restaurants, showcasing her strong background in
- 0:50restaurant operations, team management, and customer
- 0:53service. She actively supports local
- 0:56families as a child advocate and has joined groups addressing
- 0:59restaurant challenges during COVID-19.
- 1:02Additionally, Kim is a board member of the MRA, working
- 1:05closely with fellow hospitality leaders to enhance the dining
- 1:09experience throughout her community.
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- 1:54All right, back to our guest today, managing partner of the
- 1:56Capital Grill, Kim Halloran. Thanks for making the time to
- 1:59Share your story today. Absolutely nice to finally meet
- 2:03you. It's kind of in person.
- 2:05Yeah, let's go. This is going to be fun today.
- 2:07So how did you first get your start in the restaurant
- 2:10industry? How old were you?
- 2:12How did it unfold? So my first start I was I mean I
- 2:16like to say I started when I was 5.
- 2:18I used to operate a menu out of the house and cook for my mom
- 2:24and give my parents options. I kind of started then, but my
- 2:28actual first paying job was at Sonic, so we had moved to the
- 2:34Midwest, Kansas City's great get my first job and I'm at Sonic
- 2:422-3 nights a week. At that point.
- 2:44I'm too young to work, you know, too late and a few weeks and
- 2:47they said, hey, you want to make ten extra bucks a shift and wear
- 2:52roller skates. And at that point, $10 was king.
- 2:55So I was that girl cruising around on my roller skates,
- 2:59delivering sodas around the around the curb.
- 3:03And so from there, you were kind of hooked.
- 3:05You just did. You stay consistently in
- 3:08restaurants and hospitality. I stayed in restaurants.
- 3:11I don't know if I knew that it was my path until closer to when
- 3:18I turned 21. I remember a very eye opening
- 3:21moment. I had started waiting tables.
- 3:25Gilbert Robinson is a huge local restaurant group and Bristol was
- 3:30opening in Leawood and I had started working there as a
- 3:34server and the partner there, the GM who the manager that was
- 3:39running it was a female. And it was the first time I had
- 3:42worked for a woman in in that capacity.
- 3:45And she definitely motivated me and challenged me.
- 3:51And about a year or two into that, she left to go open a
- 3:58different restaurant. And I remember thinking to
- 4:01myself, you know, this is what I love to do, why don't I do this?
- 4:05And I left there to manage a small restaurant that was coming
- 4:09to the city. They've since and closed and
- 4:13moved on, but she was definitely who I looked up to and thought
- 4:18she's a stand up person. She leads a great team.
- 4:21I had never really thought of it.
- 4:23And then I moved into it and it was at that restaurant that they
- 4:28were building, the first Chipotle that was coming into
- 4:31the area and we had some random ridiculous story.
- 4:36I was in the dining room managing the floor and all of
- 4:39leadership for Chipotle before they were public.
- 4:43So this was the original crew were at that restaurant having
- 4:47dinner and a mouse went running across the floor.
- 4:52And Gretchen, who, you know, I later got to know very well,
- 4:56made eyes with me. And I remember I was so
- 4:59embarrassed. I thought, Oh my goodness, they
- 5:01think that we are. And so I approached the table
- 5:05and apologized profusely and I said, they're doing a lot of
- 5:08building next door to us. I'm so sorry.
- 5:11This never happens. It's never.
- 5:13And she laughed and said, well, that building is us.
- 5:16And you handled this so well. She said, you know, we want you
- 5:21with us. You're great, but I understand
- 5:24you have a job. But here's my card.
- 5:26And if you ever change your mind, I love your energy.
- 5:29And you know, we're opening dozens of restaurants in your
- 5:33city and growing and all of the things you want to hear as a
- 5:37young adult starting out in the industry.
- 5:41And I had made an alternate plan and decided to move shortly
- 5:46found out I was pregnant with our son.
- 5:50And so I called her and I said, I think I'm ready to make a
- 5:53change, but I'm having a baby, so let me get through this first
- 5:58stage. You know, I don't want to jump
- 6:00in with two feet when I might have 1 1/2 for a few days.
- 6:04And she said, you can come now or you can come later.
- 6:08We'll take you either way. And so we had our son.
- 6:12I waited a couple of months and I went and started working with
- 6:16them. And I opened multiple
- 6:19restaurants and, you know, kind of followed that career, which
- 6:22quick service is completely different than full service.
- 6:25And I loved it. I learned so much with that
- 6:28brand. And watching them evolve from a
- 6:30small, you know, passionate, artsy, cool burrito shop to
- 6:36something so grand was really cool.
- 6:39That's really fascinating and hysterical that this job
- 6:43opportunity came about because a little Mickey Mouse will call
- 6:47him running across the floor and the way that you handled it, had
- 6:51you had, were you the 1 interacting with them all
- 6:55evening or was that your first interaction with them was coming
- 6:58over to apologize for that mouse?
- 7:00That was the first they were, they were only there probably 5
- 7:04minutes. So I think the server had
- 7:05stopped by to greet them, but I had not had any interaction.
- 7:09And I mean thinking back, I think it was a group of seven or
- 7:128. So it was enough people that
- 7:15they all noticed it was good. And you handled that short
- 7:19interaction so well that they're like, hey, we want you part of
- 7:22the team. And so when you became part of
- 7:24the team, your role was what? And grew into what?
- 7:29So I was a store manager and quickly, I think because of my
- 7:36full service experience, I really kind of had my hands
- 7:40around all of it. And I started doing restaurant
- 7:43openings. I did multiple.
- 7:45I want 10 or 12 traveled around, you know, a day or two.
- 7:49One good thing with them is they never some restaurants take you
- 7:53away for months. They they would take you away
- 7:56for days at a time. And so it made it really
- 7:59convenient for me at that point to still do all the things and
- 8:05learn from them. So it was pretty awesome.
- 8:09Like you said, quick service is way different than full service.
- 8:12What is something key that you learned there at Chipotle that
- 8:16you're able to bring forward into the full service world, the
- 8:19capital girl today. I would say I look back at those
- 8:23days. I was so lucky to be there at
- 8:25the time I was. But the main thing I learned is
- 8:29how long does it take from when you walk in the front door until
- 8:34you leave? And was that time worth it,
- 8:39right. So throughput, right?
- 8:42That's kind of a quick service phrase and it really gets in
- 8:46your head when you look around. You don't ever lose that.
- 8:50The other thing that they did extremely well was cultivate
- 8:55relationships. So their teams, I taught English
- 8:59classes, we did, you know, family meal together on
- 9:04Saturdays, which we do at Capital Grill every day.
- 9:07But then when I had started with them, I had never worked in a
- 9:13place that was so passionate about their employees.
- 9:16And that was really cool to have a different type of role with my
- 9:21team. Besides a little bit more of a
- 9:24here's what I need you to do. OK, great.
- 9:26Thanks. High 5.
- 9:27So it encouraged us to look at our team more like people.
- 9:33And then how did that segue into an opportunity with Jake
- 9:37Gilbert's? So when we had our second child,
- 9:42about a year after, I said I think I want to get back into
- 9:46full service and it's time. I had great relationships with
- 9:51everybody. We had at that point gone public
- 9:54with Chipotle. So they were already seeing a
- 9:57lot of change. Some of the little things that I
- 10:00really loved were starting to change.
- 10:02So it felt like the right time and it was OK for me to go.
- 10:05And Jay Gilbert's is operated by the same company that I was with
- 10:11prior with Bristol. It's their sister brand, their
- 10:15steakhouse. So I went with them, you know,
- 10:18met with the leaders we had before, got back in, and then I
- 10:22was moved to Ohio. They had an opening for a
- 10:27managing partner. They had lost someone due to a
- 10:30lot of internal drama that was happening and they really felt
- 10:36like me going there or specifically a female would be
- 10:41helpful because they had an all male team and they were not
- 10:45getting through to the team based on what had happened.
- 10:49So we went up there and on. It was a great a great time.
- 10:55And I'll kind of read between the lines of maybe what unfolded
- 10:58there and kind of leave that where it is.
- 11:00But you know, you were there for a little more than four years
- 11:03and then somehow the door opened for you to join The Capital
- 11:07Grille and you've been there almost 16 years now.
- 11:10How did that opportunity come about?
- 11:13So if you go back in my story, I tell you about the leader that
- 11:18opened my eyes to wanting to be a tremendous leader.
- 11:21She retired from Darden after 30 years in December.
- 11:26So when The Capital Grille was looking for a manager, a dining
- 11:31room manager, my name had come up and I called Mary and it's
- 11:37the company she worked for. And she said, I want you to look
- 11:42up the tree of leaders and not just the person you work for,
- 11:47but their boss and above them and so on.
- 11:50And those are the people that are going to impact you every
- 11:53day. So think about where you are and
- 11:56think about where you're going and art.
- 11:58Is that the direction that you feel suits you?
- 12:02Are you putting your heart into something?
- 12:06And it was really powerful for me because that gave me the
- 12:10answer I needed, that I wanted to work for a company that was
- 12:13looking for some of the things that we have here at Darden.
- 12:19And obviously the growth and change that we see is always
- 12:25happening. But the people I work for and
- 12:28the leaders above in multiple layers, I believe in.
- 12:33And I believe that they truly are focused on what I'm focused
- 12:37on. And that to me, at the end of
- 12:38the day, I have a saying in the restaurant that I will work as
- 12:44hard for you as you will for me. And I need that commitment and
- 12:47you need it too. And I feel that way from my
- 12:50leaders as well. Can you say more about what it
- 12:54is that you have there? You found what you were looking
- 12:57for there. What is?
- 12:58There I'm looking for a culture that employees can come to work
- 13:07and thrive, that it's fair, it's respectful restaurants there,
- 13:13there's a lot of personality, there's guests coming in,
- 13:17there's people that we don't know, right.
- 13:20So we're kind of opening up the doors and taking what comes.
- 13:25So when you're surrounded by great people and you're given
- 13:29the opportunity to bring great people in, it gives you just a
- 13:34different a different power, a different edge on what we do.
- 13:39Not everything is black and white in restaurants.
- 13:43There's some Gray and learning through leaders who have done it
- 13:49for decades. You know, the the director I had
- 13:53when I started this role was the original opening partner of this
- 13:58restaurant. So the people they stay in, the
- 14:02culture is strong and it allows you to go a little bit farther
- 14:08in, a little bit reach a little bit farther.
- 14:12Even in the community, honestly, I think our guests are wine
- 14:16locker holders. They have a relationship with us
- 14:19that is special and people who haven't been here before, you
- 14:25know, they have an idea of what the picture is when they walk in
- 14:28the door that they're going to be taken care of.
- 14:30And for our team, they take great pride in it, just like I
- 14:37do. So for somebody who's never been
- 14:41to a Capital Girl location, paint us a picture.
- 14:45What's the customer experience like?
- 14:46What's the menu like? So you walk in the front door,
- 14:52it's beautiful lights and colors.
- 14:55You're greeted with a smile and really the feeling in the
- 14:58restaurant is comfortable. It's definitely elegant.
- 15:04It's a Country Club. You're coming in and everybody
- 15:08knows each other and there's a little bit of a positive energy.
- 15:13There's music in the background and you can sit in the lounge,
- 15:17which is a little more casual and lively, especially on a
- 15:20sports day or something. Kansas City's pretty active, but
- 15:25in the dining room, it's calmer. You have background music, but
- 15:29your server is going to really cater your dinner to what you
- 15:33want. So some people want to come in,
- 15:35have business and not a lot of interaction.
- 15:37And some people come in and they want to know the menu story.
- 15:40They want to know that our dry aged steaks are aged in house
- 15:45and butchered every morning and hand carved and grilled to put
- 15:48on their plate. Or that the pastry chef is here
- 15:52before anybody baking the pastries fresh for the day.
- 15:56So there's sides of it where you think, oh you just walk in the
- 16:02door and it's all ready. But we get to tell the story.
- 16:05When you come in, we can all stop by the table and tell you
- 16:09happy birthday or happy anniversary or make it special.
- 16:13But on the flip side, it's special for us.
- 16:16We have a great time when we're celebrating with people.
- 16:19It keeps it fun. So how many locations the
- 16:24capital girl now? We're just, we're just over 70.
- 16:29OK. And so you're managing partner
- 16:31specifically at the Kansas City location, is that right?
- 16:34I am, yes. Talk to me about the impact that
- 16:39you think COVID has had on the business, maybe the larger
- 16:43industry, and how you think it's kind of brought you back to your
- 16:46roots in a way. For me in the city, I was lucky
- 16:52enough to be on the board with the mayor when we were getting
- 16:55restaurants reopened. And I got to hear so much
- 16:59concern and so much excitement all at the same time, right?
- 17:04There was just a lot of fear and a lot of our industry, in my
- 17:09opinion, really had to make a decision.
- 17:13Do they want to do this or do they not, right?
- 17:16And so that crossroad was hard because so many industries did
- 17:20not have to make that choice right away.
- 17:22And we did. And I think that the employees
- 17:26who were back and working hard and together safely really
- 17:33pulled us together. It, I can't explain it in words,
- 17:37It was maybe more of a feeling, but just that team feeling and
- 17:42that camaraderie that everybody had with each other was very
- 17:45strong. And we came out of it a better
- 17:48team. But we also brought a few people
- 17:52in during that time that had left their cities.
- 17:55One of our servers, he came from New York, and he's just an
- 18:00incredible part of our team. He does restaurant openings.
- 18:03He's somed by trade. He's such a wine lover and
- 18:08advocate. But we would have never met him
- 18:11had his city not completely shut down.
- 18:14So there are. And there's another story of an
- 18:17employee from Chicago, But it just created such a different
- 18:23expectation and trust. On the flip side, they wanted to
- 18:26trust us that we were going to protect them, right?
- 18:29So that we weren't going to, you know, open the floodgates, that
- 18:34we were going to listen to the direction and follow it and do
- 18:37our best. But it just, it created a
- 18:40different layer of trust between us.
- 18:43Do you think it was just the fact that you all went through
- 18:46something incredibly difficult together, sort of, you know,
- 18:51like, almost like a, a retreat that like forces people into
- 18:54these kinds of situations to stress them out and, and that
- 18:58creates that that stronger bond. I think that that is part of it.
- 19:03And I think the other part that was kind of weird at the time is
- 19:06we were an essential worker and we very much felt that way that
- 19:11we had an ability to provide something, you know, as stores
- 19:16or other places were running out of food or whatever was
- 19:21happening. You know, we were in this
- 19:23category with nurses and police officers and in this important
- 19:29field. Now we're not here saving lives
- 19:33everyday. And I don't want to.
- 19:34I just want to serve a great dinner and pick a nice bottle of
- 19:37wine, help the team. But it also kept us in a really
- 19:43relevant category. And I don't know if everybody
- 19:48always under understood or felt that way, if that makes sense.
- 19:51You know, there's always that feeling of, oh, you're in
- 19:54restaurants, you know? Almost like it's that we don't
- 19:59like that's extra. Like that's a nice to have, not
- 20:03a must have. Sure.
- 20:05And it became more real, I guess I would say.
- 20:09I remember my mom saying to me one day, she said they're the
- 20:15people are so lucky to have you and have you go and open and get
- 20:19food, you know, because we were in here butchering steaks and
- 20:23selling them from day one, even if it was just to go just to get
- 20:28food, you know, out in the community.
- 20:30And of course, it's a business, right?
- 20:32But this is our city, and these are our people.
- 20:36Yeah, you feel a sense of responsibility.
- 20:39It's your community, their, your friends, your family, your
- 20:42neighbors. Yeah.
- 20:44You know, and you've, you, you talked about this before, but
- 20:46you've had a a hand in launching a lot of new locations for
- 20:51different restaurants you've been involved with.
- 20:53What strategies do you think are really important for generating
- 20:58excitement and success when you're opening a new location?
- 21:02Or maybe just introducing a new menu at an at an existing
- 21:04location? I think you have to have
- 21:07diversity. I think that you have to reach
- 21:12out to different people that are attracted to what you do for
- 21:17different reasons, whether that's, you know, menu
- 21:21diversity, team diversity. You're not going to include
- 21:27people if they don't feel like they already have a seat at the
- 21:31table. So seeking that out at the
- 21:34front, I guess by that I mean employees.
- 21:37I don't want everybody to be alike.
- 21:39I want personalities and ideas and they're all relevant.
- 21:44We may not all want to set the table the same way, right?
- 21:48But everybody respects each other, and finding a group of
- 21:52people that can come together or create a menu or put that to
- 21:58life is awesome. But their buzz and their
- 22:03excitement, it feeds into the guest.
- 22:06Absolutely. I mean, we opened four
- 22:10Chipotle's in a row back, I want to say in 2002 or three.
- 22:15And each one I opened, we beat the last one.
- 22:19And I think it's because we just kept getting better with our
- 22:22team. And I remember our SVP, Matt
- 22:25would walk in with exactly the coffee I liked and he, and he
- 22:30was always so awesome at reminding me, you take care of
- 22:33everyone else, I'm going to take care of you, right?
- 22:36So it's just one of those things that you create that energy.
- 22:41And you and I, we both know it. You walk into a business and you
- 22:45see, you know, deflated, frustrated employees.
- 22:49It's not exciting and not every day is rainbow and sun shines,
- 22:53but we all want to enjoy what we do.
- 22:56We want to have fun when we're here.
- 22:57Leave it at the door. You know, there's cool people
- 23:01coming in here with great stories that we don't know yet,
- 23:04so find them out. So what's so interesting about
- 23:07your answer there, Kim, is I was expecting some talk about the
- 23:13marketing aspect. Here's how we promote it.
- 23:16Here's how we get the word out. We run these ads here, we do
- 23:19this community event there. And I wonder maybe that's just
- 23:24sort of not traditionally been your role or maybe it has been
- 23:27part of your responsibility. But it's even more telling that
- 23:31you focus about You focused your answer on what's going on inside
- 23:34the four walls, how it is that you're building, motivating that
- 23:38team, taking care of them, getting them excited, getting
- 23:41them the tools that they need to be successful.
- 23:44Our team as a whole does marketing and outreach and
- 23:49without them, I'm just one person.
- 23:52My salesperson is one person. With my service team, you know,
- 23:57we're we're 60 that that's there's a lot in that and they
- 24:02have to share that excitement. They have to want that with you.
- 24:07You know, it's it's like watching the same ad over and
- 24:10over and you think to yourself, I've never used that company.
- 24:13Well, if 20 people are talking about it in different ways or
- 24:18through word of mouth or on a post Oregon various ways, it's
- 24:23going to create a little bit more excitement like you know
- 24:25what they had a great time. They can't stop talking about
- 24:28it, but that is going to motivate you to go more than you
- 24:32seeing something on paper. I think that I think that
- 24:36getting information out on events or you know, things that
- 24:42matter to your restaurant at that time are completely
- 24:44relevant, but the team being excited about it, it's
- 24:48completely different. Yeah, tell me what family meal
- 24:53is in the context of your team and why it's so important to
- 24:57you. So we do family meal every day
- 25:01at the restaurant, so midday, right?
- 25:03So you can stay after lunch or you can come in before your
- 25:07dinner. And I just think it's a way to
- 25:10nourish each other. We have a couple of guys.
- 25:14Well, Martha does it one day a week.
- 25:16But the guys, they really enjoy it and they actually will look
- 25:20and see who's working. You know, these two people don't
- 25:23eat pork. This person's vegetarian and
- 25:26they take pride in it, and I think that it's just a nice way
- 25:31to do something nice for the team.
- 25:35And whether they come in, you know, and sit together or they
- 25:39come in just to have something before the shift starts, I think
- 25:43it's just a way to show that we're committed to them and that
- 25:47the team wants to take care of each other honestly.
- 25:51Which I'm going to guess spills over in exactly the way that you
- 25:54guys treat your guests too, right?
- 25:56Noticing with your regulars or you know, even somebody new
- 26:00comes in just noticing something that's going on in that moment.
- 26:04What can you do to sort of elevate their dining experience?
- 26:08I, I'm sure that you have a long list of examples, could pull
- 26:13maybe one or two of a way that you or your team were able to
- 26:18really take somebody's dining experience and take it to
- 26:21another level just by giving attention to some of those
- 26:24details. I think that it's more than when
- 26:27they're just with us. You know, there's a story of a
- 26:30regular who comes in often and when he travels, he'll let me
- 26:35know where he's going so I can make him a reservation.
- 26:41And I do, but he's always greeted with a crushed ice
- 26:46kettle one martini because that's what he drinks.
- 26:49And it's just that it's the little things like that.
- 26:52I can tell you big stories. I can tell you engagement
- 26:56stories and photos. And team.
- 26:59I have team members that will cut flowers out of their garden
- 27:03to put on the table and make it special because they're regular.
- 27:07You know, it's a new mom or they're coming in for a girl's
- 27:11lunch. I mean, there's so many
- 27:13incredible stories, but what blows me away every day is
- 27:18sometimes it's the little things.
- 27:19They really matter. And I think that in life in
- 27:23general, we forget that sometimes.
- 27:26So when we're here, it's nice. Yeah, the the small things do
- 27:29mean a lot, but go ahead, give us one big example.
- 27:33Because those are fun to hear too.
- 27:35Well, we had a proposal and again, this was COVID time
- 27:40frame. So it was after COVID and
- 27:43everything had been pushed back. So, you know, there's this
- 27:47defeated bride and the family and they really were trying to
- 27:53make the most of it. I think everybody was and he had
- 27:57really gone to every level and we worked with him.
- 28:02We got a musician to come in and serenade her in the room so that
- 28:07she could just have this out of world experience.
- 28:11And I remember she just couldn't stop crying, right?
- 28:15Because finally something was great.
- 28:17But I remember all of us at the time were crying because we were
- 28:20so excited for her. You know, she's young, all cried
- 28:23talking about it, but she's young and this is the biggest
- 28:26day of her life. And he found a way.
- 28:30So he just started over. He proposed all over again.
- 28:33He made it super special and they did their rehearsal dinner
- 28:37here. They had a beautiful wedding.
- 28:39They've been married now four years.
- 28:41But it's cool because working with people to do something huge
- 28:48to change their life, it, it sticks with you forever.
- 28:53You know, they come in, they become part of the family.
- 28:55Yeah, yeah. Chills from that story.
- 28:57Thank you for sharing it. It's clear that mentorship is
- 29:01really important to you. You had a a really great mentor
- 29:05yourself coming up through the ranks.
- 29:08How is it that you're able to deliver mentorship?
- 29:12Can you maybe pull a specific example of the time that you've
- 29:15mentored one of your team members and how you saw it have
- 29:19a positive impact on them? I think that mentorship is what
- 29:24it's all about. I truly do.
- 29:26I think that if there isn't somebody to help you along the
- 29:29way, even if it's for a period of time, that you need to find
- 29:35somebody. So if you haven't found that
- 29:37person and that person can change that.
- 29:39You know, I talked about mine, I have others.
- 29:42But I think for me, I can talk about people I've helped become
- 29:47managers. I can talk about peers that are
- 29:49partners that I've helped through positive and negative
- 29:53situations. I can talk about relationships
- 29:56with my bosses. But I'll tell you the most
- 29:59important one was an hourly employee that worked for us
- 30:01about 10 years ago, and she was really struggling in her
- 30:06personal life. She was very kind and she was
- 30:10going to school for her Master. She's very intelligent, but she
- 30:14just could not hold it together. She couldn't.
- 30:17And all of the managers, the team, everybody was just over
- 30:23it. When are we going to get rid of
- 30:24her? This has to stop.
- 30:26And she would come in one day and everything was awesome.
- 30:30And the next day it was a mess. And I remember telling my boss I
- 30:34wasn't promoted yet, so I had to have been 13 years ago.
- 30:38Let's go back further. And I said, I want her to be my
- 30:43one-on-one until she gets better, and I'm going to work on
- 30:49it every week. And I did.
- 30:51And I met with her every week, and my only goal was for her to
- 30:55make it. And she did.
- 30:58And she turned that corner and she became incredible because
- 31:04she already was. But nobody believed in her.
- 31:06All she was hearing is what she was doing wrong, right?
- 31:10And so shifting it and looking at her situation different than
- 31:14everybody else made such a difference.
- 31:18And to this day, when we see each other, we don't talk often.
- 31:22She's thriving. She's got her master's degree,
- 31:25she's a lawyer, she's very successful.
- 31:28But her situation to me was really important because
- 31:33somebody, she came here for a reason and we hired her for a
- 31:36reason. We owed her the respect to try
- 31:39to make that great, right? That that's how I felt.
- 31:42And I think that sometimes it's just easy to dismiss people or
- 31:47walk away. I think that sometimes we have
- 31:50to lean into it. I have a manager right now.
- 31:54I remember 2-3 years ago before she became a manager, talking
- 32:01about her position. She was an hourly Hostess and
- 32:05she was incredible. And she was about to embark on
- 32:10buying a home by herself with her children, right?
- 32:14So looking at this new life that was going to be real for her.
- 32:17And I remember her looking at me saying, I need more skills, I
- 32:22need to know how to do things. And I said, OK, then we're going
- 32:28to do it all, top to bottom, every position until you
- 32:32understand every role. And she did.
- 32:35And she took it serious. She worked in the kitchen.
- 32:38She did everything and she loves it, but she's a dining room
- 32:42manager, she's passionate, she's caring.
- 32:45But I felt like in that moment that was an honest conversation,
- 32:49saying I'm walking in and doing great at the same thing every
- 32:52day. I don't know what I don't know.
- 32:56And I thought, I owe you that respect.
- 32:58You've been here so long you've never wanted to, but you do
- 33:02today. And because you do today, we're
- 33:04going to do it right. And so I think that sometimes
- 33:08the time's right and sometimes it's not.
- 33:10And so when you can be a mentor, when it's important, it matters.
- 33:16And not everybody wants to be mentored every bit every day.
- 33:19They don't want a story every day.
- 33:20They don't want you telling them, you know, all the reasons
- 33:23they can do it. They might not want it that day.
- 33:26So I want to go back to the woman that you made sort of your
- 33:30mission, that I, hey, I want this to be my one-on-one every
- 33:33week. What were you doing in those
- 33:36weekly meetings with her to help her bridge from where she was to
- 33:41where she ended up going? We started out by writing down
- 33:47what she was doing well and what she wasn't.
- 33:50The number one component that we had to get through was her
- 33:55seeing what we saw. You know it.
- 33:57It's like that story. I tell it all the time, but
- 34:02I'll, I'll say it in summary. If you have a tail, right, if
- 34:06someone says, hey, Anthony, you have a tail, you're going to be
- 34:10like, no, I don't. My boss would always, Bart would
- 34:13always tell me the story. But if you go upstairs and your
- 34:17family tells you and then you leave the office and you're at
- 34:21the coffee shop and everybody's looking at you, at some point
- 34:26you have to realize you might have a tail and maybe you can't
- 34:29see it, but everybody else does, right?
- 34:32So there's just that reality of how do we bridge what we see and
- 34:38what you see and how do we get on the same page?
- 34:41And I think in our industry, we feel like in restaurants,
- 34:45there's so much, you know, outside noise because we're
- 34:49dealing with the general public that what they say or what we
- 34:53see isn't always valid. It can be dismissed versus
- 34:57that's valid feedback. Thank you.
- 35:00I think that we're in this online social media world where
- 35:06we are given so much information that we don't know what to
- 35:10accept is reality or or just a story.
- 35:16And so for her it was sitting down and saying what do we need
- 35:21to do to do XYZ right? Don't make this bigger than
- 35:25dinner. And we just focused on that.
- 35:29We focused on what she needed to do here because outside of work
- 35:34was mayhem and it was just spilling in, so we had to really
- 35:37work on separating it. Sounds like there was at least a
- 35:42fair bit of positive affirmations as well.
- 35:44So not just raining down on the things that needed work on, but
- 35:49hey, let's shine a light on some of the things that you're doing
- 35:51well too, because everybody needs that competence boost when
- 35:54they're going through something hard.
- 35:56Well, and finding peers that could mentor her and she could
- 35:59work with was really helpful. Also surrounding her by people
- 36:03that were, you know, more pillars of the restaurant.
- 36:08So scheduling her on shifts where we knew she would be
- 36:12supported and just surrounding her with people a little more
- 36:16intentionally or putting her on a large table with, you know, a
- 36:21trainer or somebody who had more skill or ability at certain
- 36:25things helped her a lot. Kim, tell us about the child
- 36:30advocacy work that you do. So I, I think that years ago, I
- 36:37realized that we all have the ability to impact our community
- 36:42and through lots of life, right, you learned that sometimes you
- 36:47need somebody there to say, hey, this is what this child's trying
- 36:53to say, this is what they need. And I started Casa work and I
- 37:00remember even my husband went to my graduation.
- 37:03Sorry, what is Casa work? So Casa is court appointed,
- 37:09court appointed special advocate.
- 37:11So it's a liaison between a child that's been taken from
- 37:17their home for abuse or neglect and the court.
- 37:22So it's the person that meets with the child and make sure
- 37:27they have, you know, dental, books, clothes, that anything
- 37:32they need because they don't have parents at that time.
- 37:37And it was just, I don't know, it pulled to me because of life
- 37:42and people and what it was. But I felt like it's such a way
- 37:47to help, especially a voiceless child in a big, you know,
- 37:52courtroom who needs someone to say, I know that's what you're
- 37:56thinking and that's what you're thinking, but here's what we are
- 37:59thinking. And it was really impactful.
- 38:02And honestly, I would say the social workers and the judges I
- 38:06worked with showed me how important that role was.
- 38:11I felt like I made a personal impact on each child.
- 38:17How many children do you think you've worked with?
- 38:19Any idea? So my first family was 2, the
- 38:24second was 5, and then I had three others.
- 38:27So there I would be a total of about 15.
- 38:31OK, Is this work that you continue today or is this a
- 38:37previous season of life? It's a previous season.
- 38:41I'll definitely get back into it.
- 38:44I left it when I had gotten promoted here and so I moved on
- 38:51to doing some different things. But I've encouraged.
- 38:53I probably have 5 or 6 friends that do it and I kind of stay
- 38:56close to them as well as some of these girls that I met in the
- 39:02past. So, you know, once they leave
- 39:04the system, you have to remember, or at least I remember
- 39:08that they don't. You know, their parent is the
- 39:12judge and then they venture off and some of them are just alone.
- 39:16It's just them. So some of them are mothers now
- 39:19too, and some it's gone really great and some it has not.
- 39:23But you know, just to have a person if they need to talk.
- 39:28Well, it's really kind of you. Let's shift gears into talking
- 39:32about a serious challenge, Kim, that you've overcome in your
- 39:35life, whether it's personal or professional.
- 39:38How did you get through it and what did you learn in that
- 39:41process? You know, I, I look back and
- 39:48there's always this one pivotal time in my life and, and maybe
- 39:52it, This is why I did Casa work, but I'm very close with my
- 39:57parents. And when I was young, my parents
- 39:59divorced, and this was in the generation of divorce was not
- 40:05extremely common. Little did we know it was going
- 40:08to be, you know, everywhere. But we were kind of the first.
- 40:14My mom comes from a big family. She was the youngest.
- 40:18I was the youngest. And so here my stay at home mom
- 40:23is with my dad, and they don't know what to do.
- 40:26They've been together since high school.
- 40:28They've had kids, you know, they're in their mid 20s.
- 40:31And they made what I considered to be a huge mistake by asking
- 40:38each of us where we wanted to go.
- 40:41And so I went with my mom and my sister and brother went with my
- 40:45dad. And it was just a horrible
- 40:48decision. And I don't think, sorry mom,
- 40:52when you listen to this, you already know.
- 40:54But and dad too, I don't think they knew what they were doing
- 40:57because nobody was giving them the advice.
- 41:00Nobody was talking to the kids. They were so wrapped up and the
- 41:04moment that nobody was kind of taking a step back.
- 41:08But Fast forward years later, my parents remarried each other and
- 41:16they have a great marriage. And you know, they, I don't know
- 41:21what they would do without each other.
- 41:22My dad has stage 4 cancer. She takes great care of him.
- 41:25I mean, they, they're just great.
- 41:27But they had to go through this hard time, right?
- 41:31And we went through this hard time and I just have a very
- 41:35strong feeling that everybody deserves a second chance.
- 41:40You can come back from things, you can make it better, but you
- 41:45have to have the tools to do it right.
- 41:47You have to work hard towards it.
- 41:50You have to mend relationships. And you know it.
- 41:55It was a lot, but I look at everybody.
- 41:57My team guest. And I think you don't know their
- 42:01story. You don't know what they've been
- 42:03through. You don't know, you know, if
- 42:07they have a roof over their head or if they're bouncing from
- 42:11apartment to apartment with a mom who's never worked and
- 42:14you're sharing a bed or a couch at a friend's house.
- 42:17You know you're just figuring out ways to survive, right?
- 42:22But it also can teach you to thrive.
- 42:24It can teach you a difference. Or to look in the mirror and
- 42:28say, hey, I don't want that for myself.
- 42:32So what can I do to impact others?
- 42:34How can I help others have what they need to thrive, right?
- 42:40You just need somebody to kind of point you in that direction.
- 42:44And luckily I had some people who did.
- 42:46I had some mentors and hopefully I can mentor others and not all
- 42:50of them will be extreme or bad situations.
- 42:52Maybe it's getting their master's degree or doing
- 42:56something awesome. But sometimes you just need
- 42:59somebody to say, hey, you left there because of this, but you
- 43:04deserve a second chance. Let's focus on it.
- 43:07Let's, you know, overcome it and be great.
- 43:12Wow, that's quite a story. I appreciate you sharing that.
- 43:15Kim, I'm curious, as you were going through that, at what
- 43:19point did your parents remarry each other?
- 43:21How much longer down the road was that?
- 43:25About 8 years, OK, it's pretty significant time.
- 43:30So it, it's, it ended in elementary school, which I kind
- 43:34of thought that, you know, we didn't have two pennies to rub
- 43:38together. We were, you know, getting a
- 43:40Christmas tree donated from the neighbor, right?
- 43:43So there was hard times, but then they got back together,
- 43:49middle school, high school. So a lot of important years had
- 43:53happened. A lot of your formative years
- 43:56you were going through a lot of missing your dad, missing your
- 44:00siblings, struggling financially.
- 44:04And it sounds like it it puts you in this mindset of being
- 44:06able to understand and appreciate hard times other
- 44:09people are going through. And and you put it really well,
- 44:14you know, and you don't always know when somebody's going
- 44:16through a hard thing, right? You've got a lot of Co workers,
- 44:19a lot of people showing up. Maybe they're showing up late,
- 44:22maybe they're showing up in a bad mood.
- 44:23You don't know what it is that they were walking through that
- 44:27day. You don't know what's going on
- 44:30in their life. And you know, by giving them
- 44:32some grace and support, I think you know, probably a lot of
- 44:36people who look back at their time working with you and you
- 44:39know, with gratitude because of the the kind way in which you
- 44:43approach them. And I think you have to be
- 44:46careful with it. I think you have to be honest
- 44:50with the conversation of here's the expectation, right?
- 44:54We still have a business, but you're still a human being.
- 44:57And we can't forget that when we deal with people, that we're
- 45:01dealing with people. Do you ever find yourself
- 45:06getting involved or wanting to get involved with the struggles
- 45:10that are going on outside of the restaurant?
- 45:13Somebody has a particular situation in their home life
- 45:16that you know, it is hard to hear about, but is that
- 45:21something where you feel like it's stepping over the lines to
- 45:24to help there? You kind of keep to your domain
- 45:27inside the four walls. I am very resourceful, right?
- 45:32And I think that honestly, being a part of the Missouri
- 45:35Restaurant Association or the Kansas City Association, I've
- 45:39learned, yes, of course I want to help and I want to give
- 45:43resources. As a company, we have something
- 45:46called Days, which is Darden at your service.
- 45:49And it's a book of resources for our team, whether bankruptcy,
- 45:57divorce, depression, text, phone calls.
- 46:00And luckily for me, we have that in place so that I don't have to
- 46:05get too personally. Of course my team is going to
- 46:08call me at 11:00 at night in tears because something's going
- 46:12on and they trust me and they are.
- 46:15I'm the first person they thought of to call.
- 46:17Yes, I'm going to take that call.
- 46:19But I feel grateful that I can help them find the tools they
- 46:24need. And sometimes it's the opposite.
- 46:27They don't want me to know because they respect me so much
- 46:31or they see, you know, how hard we're all working and they feel
- 46:35like that's a distraction of a feel bad.
- 46:38And so sometimes having those tools helps to say, hey, team,
- 46:44maybe you don't want to call me and maybe you don't want to talk
- 46:46today. But here's all these things, you
- 46:50know, and we celebrate together, right?
- 46:54Weddings, babies, all of that. But some when you're going
- 46:59through something hard, you have to have a way to get it off your
- 47:04chest. There's no there's nobody
- 47:06listening to this or in this restaurant or eating here that
- 47:11doesn't have something going on that we can't see, you know, and
- 47:15I feel that way with guests. You know, an employee might say,
- 47:18oh, this table Kim, what is going on?
- 47:21I said, we don't know. They may have put their dog down
- 47:24today. They made like, let's give them
- 47:26the benefit. Let's start service.
- 47:29Let's get some food in their belly.
- 47:31Let's give them a toast. Let's see what they need.
- 47:34And it's interesting to see it shift right to watch them kind
- 47:38of release that stress over time because people walk in here
- 47:43with, you know, burdens, business acquisitions, you know,
- 47:47important things. You know, you hit on something
- 47:50important there that when you're going through something hard,
- 47:52you need a way to get it off your chest, right?
- 47:54You need somebody that you trust that you can open up to and get
- 47:58support from. When you were going through that
- 48:00really hard time of your parents splitting up, You know, your mom
- 48:04is obviously, you know, having her own hurt and pain and trying
- 48:08to navigate to where, where did you go for support?
- 48:10Who was there for you during that difficult time?
- 48:15Really nobody, not a lot of people.
- 48:17So my dad's mom, who was kind of our pillar, had passed.
- 48:21And I think that's when everything fell apart.
- 48:24But I do think that's why I became who I was.
- 48:27I became that middle person in so much of life of saying, OK,
- 48:33there has to be somebody looking at things rational because if
- 48:37it's not all this big, you know, and there was definitely people
- 48:41along the road who kind of leaned in.
- 48:45But I'll tell you, the people who pulled me out of not knowing
- 48:50what to do are the mentors I still have that said, hey, you
- 48:55can do this, you can do this, you can do that.
- 48:58And, and I don't think I thought of that, right, because I was so
- 49:03busy figuring out life. My husband and I bought our
- 49:07first house when we were 18. When I started working when I
- 49:11was 14, I just wanted a home. I wanted somewhere to go to say
- 49:15that was my home, right? That's it.
- 49:17That's all I wanted. So if that meant 2 jobs, three
- 49:20jobs, whatever I had to do, I was going to have a home and
- 49:23that was going to be it, right? So you think about those days
- 49:28and how important it was, but then you needed people there to
- 49:31say, OK, you're, you've been doing this.
- 49:34Have you thought about that? Because I hadn't, I had not
- 49:38thought about those things. I just knew I had to work and I
- 49:42know I wanted to work with great people, right?
- 49:44Like who I was as in my core stayed the same but I was lucky
- 49:49to find people to pull pieces out which was which was awesome.
- 49:54What's your superpower, Kim? Oh well, I I'm calm.
- 50:01I just think that I don't know if it's the empathy I have for
- 50:07people, you know, that I can feel highs and lows so much, but
- 50:12I just don't let things impact me greatly.
- 50:17I just don't think that it's rational, you know, I think that
- 50:20we're going to go through good, we're going to go through bad.
- 50:23You're allowed to feel and and I let those around me do that.
- 50:28But at the end of the day, I just think that giving back is
- 50:35who you are, what you give back to your community and the people
- 50:39around you or having, you know, safety.
- 50:42You can work for me and have a great job or you can come to my
- 50:46house, you know, if you're my neighbor's kids and have
- 50:48breakfast, you're always safe. You know, it's always going to
- 50:52be calm. I'm always going to earn your
- 50:56trust based on what I believe, right?
- 50:59So there's I think something to be said for that when you're
- 51:04just appreciative every day of who you're surrounded by.
- 51:09I mean, I think it's part being humble but also realizing
- 51:14sometimes people just need consistency and safety and
- 51:20structure. Now there's a lot of.
- 51:24And a nice steak, you know? But it all, it sounds silly, but
- 51:30it's true. I mean, it's just fun.
- 51:33Comfort food at its best. Huh.
- 51:34Yeah, I love to cook. Yeah, I love.
- 51:37And I pretty much only cook comfort food, so maybe that
- 51:41that's it. Kim, I've just got one more
- 51:44question for you, but before I ask it, I want to do a few
- 51:46things. Anyone who wants to get in touch
- 51:49with Kim directly, you can find her on LinkedIn.
- 51:51It's Kim Halloran. HA Double LORAN, search for Kim
- 51:57Halloran and the Capital grill. Grill has an E on the end of it,
- 52:00folks. We'll have links in the show
- 52:02notes, but in case you're listening and you can also find
- 52:05the brand at www.thatthecapitalgrill.com.
- 52:09Again, grill with an E on the on the end of it, the Capital
- 52:12grill.com. And as a reminder, if you want
- 52:15to get more employees access to benefits that won't hurt them
- 52:18financially and carries a financial upside for your
- 52:21company, reach out to add back benefits.com.
- 52:24Finally, if you take just a moment to leave us a comment or
- 52:27review on your favorite podcast app, we will be forever
- 52:30grateful. So last question for you, Kim,
- 52:33as we look to the future, a year from now, you and I reconnect
- 52:38and you are celebrating something big.
- 52:40What's that big thing you hope to be celebrating one year from
- 52:43today? Well, a year from today, I'll be
- 52:49state president for the Missouri Restaurant Association, so I'll
- 52:52have a chance to give back to this great industry that's given
- 52:55me so much and I'm so appreciative.
- 52:59I love, I love using my free time to give back to students
- 53:05and managers and peers alike. But I also hope to have people
- 53:12working under me that are building new lives for
- 53:15themselves, setting up goals and becoming restaurant managers and
- 53:20growing their career, as well as the managers that we have,
- 53:25helping them to become managing partners and run their own
- 53:28restaurants and, you know, plan for their next steps.
- 53:32I think that opportunity is incredible in anything that
- 53:38we're doing. So that's what I hope that
- 53:41everybody's moved forward, including myself.
- 53:44Kim Halloran from The Capital Grille.
- 53:47I'm going to be the first to thank you for sharing both your
- 53:49time and your story with us today.
- 53:50I really appreciate it. It was great.
- 53:53I appreciate you very much and it was nice to see you, see you
- 53:57on the screen. But anytime you're in Kansas
- 54:00City, I'd love to have you in. I appreciate that.
- 54:02I'm going to put that on my bucket list, folks.
- 54:05That's a wrap on another episode of the Inspired Stories podcast.
- 54:08Thanks for learning with us today.