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KickAround #430 - "American Soccer's Third Rail" · The Ticket Sportsradio 1310 and 96.7 FM

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  Speaker 1: It's time for the Kick Around the tickets weekly show
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  Speaker 1: guys who can never go the full ninety Andy Swift
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  Speaker 1: and Peter Wilton already own this. Hangs it up.
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  Speaker 2: Let the goal kick it the Oh my godness, grazers,
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  Speaker 2: this is unbelievable. I'm diving ahead of the Joven show
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  Speaker 2: is ever right now. He's got to hold just four o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: He's achieved of incredible things and his carebit even he
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  Speaker 2: hasn't seen anything like this. That goal means that Ben
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  Speaker 2: fake out are gonna head into the.
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  Speaker 1: Top twenty four. Anything better than a goalkeeper goal scored
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  Speaker 1: at the death.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know you tell me, I asked you when
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  Speaker 3: it happened?
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  Speaker 1: You did. Hi to Helpy Ones and welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Kick Around back in the natural habitat of Saturday two
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  Speaker 1: to four here on the Sport Radio of ninety six
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  Speaker 1: dot seven FM and thirteen ten a M. Where you
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  Speaker 1: the good P one sits around talk soccer and all
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  Speaker 1: that implies. Hey, it's me Peter, and to my left,
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  Speaker 1: to your right, it's the world's most interesting man, Andy
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  Speaker 1: gold the swift.
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  Speaker 3: Two things. The number one one is h did you
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  Speaker 3: hear the call like a from Portugal of the goal
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  Speaker 3: we just played?
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  Speaker 1: I probably have. I've seen so many different versions of
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  Speaker 1: German call.
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  Speaker 3: Really, yes, was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, really, you know why the German call was so big?
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  Speaker 3: Just because it was a soccer moment, man, man boy,
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  Speaker 3: it was, and it wasn't just a soccer it was
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  Speaker 3: as one of the soccer moments. By the way, I'll
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  Speaker 3: be right here if you need me, Uh, just give
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  Speaker 3: me a few seconds. Heads up, I'll put my head,
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  Speaker 3: the phone back on and turn the mic on, but
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  Speaker 3: I won't leave you. I'll be in the studio. So
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  Speaker 3: have a good show, Peter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Liverpool is playing Newcastle as we speak at anfield,
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  Speaker 1: which means I will largely be doing today's show solo.
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  Speaker 1: Good luck. Thanks Andy. Okay, we have it on two
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  Speaker 1: of the four TVs. Would you like it on all
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  Speaker 1: four TVs? Okay, I'll switch it over when we go
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  Speaker 1: to break. We do have a lots to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: We will get into the final week of group games
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  Speaker 1: in the Champions League. That happened this week, lots of drama.
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  Speaker 1: I still wonder if this is a better setup or not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still not care.
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  Speaker 3: You're not enjoy down save it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just save it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well you asked.
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  Speaker 1: The other big news this week was stuff we've been
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  Speaker 1: waiting for for a while from USL United Soccer Leagues,
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  Speaker 1: as they are finally getting around to telling us the
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  Speaker 1: details about this new USL Premiere League they're going to
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  Speaker 1: launch in twenty twenty eight. Now, that seems like a
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  Speaker 1: fur piece off, but Andy and I have some thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and questions and we'll get into that and discuss it
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  Speaker 1: in more detail. And the reason why I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of you will care is because part of that is, yes,
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  Speaker 1: a topic of the third rail of soccer known as
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  Speaker 1: promotion angation. But first let's get into the most serious
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  Speaker 1: and important of all of the soccer segments. So along
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  Speaker 1: with the results in the Champions League and the USL news,
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  Speaker 1: let's just quickly run through the scoreboard of the day,
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  Speaker 1: because I do think it's worth getting into the issue
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  Speaker 1: of what is going on with Wrexham. Wrexham one again today,
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  Speaker 1: my dear friend Andy. Yeah, and maybe I am not
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  Speaker 1: doing anybody a favor by keeping up with Reximum. People
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  Speaker 1: are beaten by it, but I'm sorry. If Wrexham gets
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  Speaker 1: promoted into the Premier League, that is a that has
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  Speaker 1: got to be one of the biggest stories in all
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  Speaker 1: of sport.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think a lot of people are keeping
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  Speaker 3: up because they became a popular team here Stateside. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they were playing at Sheffield Wednesday at this morning, Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: this morning? How coolill it? I think if I was
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  Speaker 1: going to start a soccer team, I think I would
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  Speaker 1: name it after a day of the week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah FC Tuesday ago, or just like Dallas Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or Friday Dallas. How about that Dallas Friday, Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Soccer Club Friday. Not a bad idea anyway. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Rex Saturday night, Dallas Saturday Night, Saturday Night, Dallas. I
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  Speaker 1: kind of dig it, all right? Uh? They won their
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  Speaker 1: game today one nothing and yes, now they hold on
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  Speaker 1: to that sixth promotion play in spot on forty seven points.
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  Speaker 1: That puts them a year nine points out from one
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  Speaker 1: of the automatic spots where Middlesbrough is. So keep mind
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  Speaker 1: of that. Over in Spanish, La Liga interesting today as
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  Speaker 1: Villa Reale and Atletico Madrid both drew their games, which
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  Speaker 1: means they the gap between them and Barcelona and Real
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  Speaker 1: Madrid is considerable seven and ten points. Barcelona is playing
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  Speaker 1: LJA as we speak. They just kicked off and they
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  Speaker 1: have a one point lead over Real Madrid, who plays
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  Speaker 1: Rya Volcano tomorrow, who are in sixteenth place. Well done
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  Speaker 1: over in the Italy. Thank you? What the pronunciation?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, I'm pretty proud of myself. Study over in the Italy. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the game today of note, Napoli beat Fjor and Our
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  Speaker 1: our Fior and Tina today two to one to stay
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  Speaker 1: in third place. They're five points off the top. Now
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  Speaker 1: the reason why I also find this interesting.
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  Speaker 3: You're proud to be a Fiorentina fan.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, because in the last few days, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I had forgotten that Roco Camisio. Camisio was
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  Speaker 1: the owner and president of Fiorentina, and he was tied
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  Speaker 1: into the Cosmos and he was part of the big
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit against the federation. He passed away a couple weeks
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  Speaker 1: ago and his son is now running Fiorentina, and I
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  Speaker 1: kind of wish I had pulled the audio because he
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  Speaker 1: posted what is has to be like a ten minute
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  Speaker 1: talk that he put on. It's just him in front
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  Speaker 1: of a camera wearing kind of a purplish a viola
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  Speaker 1: suit and shirt with the Fiorentina pin.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't even listen to what he says, which
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  Speaker 3: is rather interesting in itself, if you just watch his
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  Speaker 3: facial expressions. Yes, they're kind of very gangster, you aren't they.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And here's the deal, and I'll retweet it so
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  Speaker 1: everybody can watch it for themselves. But the reason why
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  Speaker 1: this this speech is of note because he goes into
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing about kind of honoring his father and
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  Speaker 1: how great the fans have been, and how his family
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  Speaker 1: is committed to making Fiorentina a great club despite the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they are in a relegation zone and bettering
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  Speaker 1: the stadium and naming the new training facility after his dad.
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  Speaker 1: The the reason why the video is interesting is because
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  Speaker 1: his entire presentation style is a weird dead ringer for
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  Speaker 1: our current president.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the mannerisms, the way he's speaking.
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  Speaker 1: The pacing, the tone, its cadences. It's like he has
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  Speaker 1: done nothing but watch Trump's speeches for the last ten
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  Speaker 1: years and has somehow absorbed it and he's decided that's
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  Speaker 1: his presentation style. It would not surprise me to find
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  Speaker 1: out that he was doing a Trump impression as a bit,
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  Speaker 1: because it's such a Trump kind of of speaking and
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  Speaker 1: handholding Ingestrer.
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  Speaker 3: If you if you bring the volume down and you
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  Speaker 3: just watch his facial expressions, I think he was serious.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is just how I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't. I don't. He was genuine and sincere, and he
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  Speaker 1: was appreciative and just.
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  Speaker 3: Incredibly very strange.
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  Speaker 1: Over in the Bundesliga, big result today is Bayern Munich
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  Speaker 1: was held to a two to two draw versus Hamburger.
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  Speaker 1: They stay in first place six points ahead. Lever Cusen
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  Speaker 1: beat Frankfurt today three to one, and Leipzig lost to Monster.
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  Speaker 1: The Hamburgers and the Frankfurters. No, Hamburger tied, Hamburger tied,
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  Speaker 1: frankfur lost, the hot Dog lost to lever Cusin. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and so there you go. Let's see. So that's uh,
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  Speaker 1: the scoreboard that I wanted to get into. The other
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  Speaker 1: thing I wanted to get into is about the US
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  Speaker 1: men's national team because our very own Morosio Mauricio Pochettino
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  Speaker 1: caught a bit of heat this week. Are you aware
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  Speaker 1: of how he has been criticized about his comments reacting
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  Speaker 1: to Tim Waya's comments about ticket prices.
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  Speaker 3: Because Tim Waya was standing up for the people right
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  Speaker 3: and saying ticket prices are too high, and I think
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  Speaker 3: what Pochettino was saying, I mean he criticized them for
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  Speaker 3: saying that. I think what Pochettina's just trying to say
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  Speaker 3: is like, hey, guys, just focus on the task at hand,
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  Speaker 3: which is getting ready for World CD.
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  Speaker 1: The quote is, first of all, I think players need
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  Speaker 1: to talk on the pitch playing football, not outside of
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  Speaker 1: It's not Tim's duty to evaluate the price of the ticket,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's also my job. My duty is to
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  Speaker 1: prepare the team, the US men's national team and the
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  Speaker 1: best way to perform. We're not politicians. We are sport
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  Speaker 1: people that we can only talk about our job. And
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  Speaker 1: I think if FIFA does something or take some decision,
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  Speaker 1: they know why and it is their responsibility to explain why.
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  Speaker 1: It is not about us to provide our opinion. Our
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  Speaker 1: responsibility is to perform, m play and perform on the pitch,
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  Speaker 1: and then the people that are in charge of the federation,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he can give his opinion, but I am the
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  Speaker 1: head coach of the federation.
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  Speaker 3: You think he's just trying to save a yellow card
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  Speaker 3: here or there.
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  Speaker 1: No, you know, throw this piece in because he got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of flack, lots of lots of criticism from
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  Speaker 1: the different you know, punditry out there, with the exception
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  Speaker 1: of one right one Carly Lloyd.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought, I you're gonna think it was lawless.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was the it was the female. It was
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  Speaker 1: Carly Lloyd who said, you know what, He's right, players
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  Speaker 1: need to just worry about playing the game.
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  Speaker 3: But but I do think there's you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think anybody needs to be silenced, but you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: about to uh play in a World Cup, representing your country,
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  Speaker 3: in your country, you know, eliminate noise a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And just I would say this is also maybe a
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  Speaker 1: bit preventive in his part, because I do think we
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  Speaker 1: get yeah, because I think as we get closer to
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  Speaker 1: the tournament, more of this stuff's gonna come up, especially
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  Speaker 1: some of the political stuff. That's I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: good point because the team has gone a long way,
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  Speaker 1: I think in terms of performances and how they're being
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  Speaker 1: received by the American soccer fan in general. Andy, are
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  Speaker 1: you paying attention.
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  Speaker 3: To the radio? Okay, yeah, I got one eye there
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  Speaker 3: and one eye there, so that's two eyes there, but
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  Speaker 3: one ear to you.
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  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think I think that's a really really good point.
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  Speaker 3: Actually is as he is, he is.
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  Speaker 1: He's like trying to put a tap on it now
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  Speaker 1: because I throw out it. Because when they all get
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  Speaker 1: back here to the States, it's just gonna get worse,
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  Speaker 1: Like the questions are going to get harder and all
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  Speaker 1: of that's going to get more severe. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: about the national team was the move of one Alex Freeman,
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  Speaker 1: who was sold from Orlando City to Via Real this week. Now, he,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, has been starring as a right back
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  Speaker 1: for the US men's national team. With oh oh Sergenio
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  Speaker 1: dest being injured for a long time, Freeman it was
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  Speaker 1: left up to to play right back for the team,
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  Speaker 1: right and he got better as it went on, and
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  Speaker 1: now he's gonna go play in La Liga with Villa Real.
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  Speaker 1: I do think the timing is interesting because he's clearly
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  Speaker 1: a guy that is vying for time with the national team,
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  Speaker 1: playing in a World Cup, and also from his own
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  Speaker 1: personal career. Making the decision to leave MLS to go overseas,
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  Speaker 1: he may not play as much in the lead up tea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're top four. I mean they're in the
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  Speaker 3: hunt for Champions League spots. So this is a legit side.
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  Speaker 1: I do do you spend you won't be spread. I
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  Speaker 1: spend time thinking about how players handle their professional career
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  Speaker 1: mixed with their national team responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think that's a legit thing to think about
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  Speaker 3: as you approach a World Cup, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And he says he called Pochettino and asked him if
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  Speaker 1: he did and Pochettino's like, look, you know, you can't
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  Speaker 1: blame the guy for wanting to make a move. And
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully it'll work out and doesn't keep him from playing.
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  Speaker 1: Although dest is likely the starter, they're gonna need Alex
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  Speaker 1: Freeman to be successful, especially as a fill in or
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  Speaker 1: something over in the Premier League. Jack Grealish is likely
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  Speaker 1: to miss the rest of the season due to a
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  Speaker 1: furt a foot injury.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big blow to Everton because he was he
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  Speaker 3: had been making a big difference, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but they got a pretty positive result today and
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  Speaker 1: the other thing that is a big move and they
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  Speaker 1: had lars today, but barely. Yes, we don't have lars today.
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  Speaker 1: I am curious as history action to find out that
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  Speaker 1: one Oscar Bob, his fellow Norwegian, has been sold from
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  Speaker 1: man City to Fulham.
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  Speaker 3: Good move for Fulham and Fulham is.
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  Speaker 1: A good move Oscar Bob.
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  Speaker 3: Well he's going to play and Fulham is.
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  Speaker 1: What three points they play United? Yeah? Yeah, there are
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  Speaker 1: four points behind United in fourth place?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, correct, yeah, fifth place as Chelsea went today. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: oh true, yes, but still that Premier League will get
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  Speaker 3: five Champions League they're so far und coefficient that they're
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  Speaker 3: going to get five spots.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It dawned on me. I had all these
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and things to talk about with the man U
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  Speaker 1: Fulham game, and that's one that I didn't throw in there.
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  Speaker 1: Will Oscar Bob play in the game tomorrow? Yeah? Interesting
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  Speaker 1: and make it more.
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  Speaker 3: You can think about it till we talk about it
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  Speaker 3: a little bit later.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we can do that. Yes, okay, well that's going
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  Speaker 1: to do it for headlines today. Let's take a break,
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  Speaker 1: we come back, let's get into the big day in
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  Speaker 1: the Premier League and Chelsea turns it around. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about it next here on the kick Around. Oh, welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the kick Around. I think we may have
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  Speaker 1: just lost Andrew for the rest of the show, as
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  Speaker 1: Newcastle has taken a one to ohero lead at anfield
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  Speaker 1: over his Liverpool and it had to have been the
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  Speaker 1: most punishable face in the pres League. That scored it too,
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon, who I don't think he's scored quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was just wondering. I was asking Lars
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  Speaker 1: this question the last time Anthony Gordon had scored a goal,
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  Speaker 1: and it had been a bit.
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  Speaker 3: So I blame me because just as he's dropping the
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  Speaker 3: forty that includes something about Liverpool, that's when they get
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  Speaker 3: scored on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, ea, your fault for blame here, I'm looking to
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  Speaker 1: place blame somewhere here.
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  Speaker 3: He's just throwing because it's surely not our crappy defense man.
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  Speaker 1: We oh stopping that is ironic. I read something about
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  Speaker 1: Liverpool right as they scored. Yes, it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: funny for sure. All right, let's get into now. So yes,
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  Speaker 1: just we're gonna do a whole segment about the Premier League.
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  Speaker 1: Newcastle is playing Liverpool right now. It's another one of
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  Speaker 1: these annoying two o'clock games. Why are they playing games
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  Speaker 1: at two o'clock on a Saturday If you were.
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  Speaker 3: Telling me, off, are you like those six thirty am
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  Speaker 3: the people in California think about those four thirty am
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  Speaker 3: games there.
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  Speaker 1: Let me show you exactly how much I care about
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  Speaker 1: and Pacific time.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not what you tell me when you travel
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  Speaker 3: over there, say how much you wish you could move
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  Speaker 3: there and this and that?
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  Speaker 1: How you like to be true? I mean sure I
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  Speaker 1: like all those things. I just don't want to So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: there's no six thirty game this morning. It's this another noise.
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  Speaker 1: But you know we were talking about this during the break,
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  Speaker 1: which is maybe there's something to the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: want to pick up more West Coast viewers.
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  Speaker 3: But this is the Premier League.
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  Speaker 1: But it's also primetime on Saturday night and in England now.
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  Speaker 3: So they're like, oh, we'll gain a few more US based.
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  Speaker 1: They'll gain a lot more. I mean they do get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money from s yes, yeah, so maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's a win win. They get nighttime viewership in England
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  Speaker 1: and they get West Coast viewers. I guess it's just
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  Speaker 1: inconvenient for us doing a two pm show on a Saturday. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: while you're trying to watch your team play. Let's dial
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  Speaker 1: up the Premier League.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, we're going to talk about USL, but
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  Speaker 3: you know who's gonna well we'll talk about in that segment,
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  Speaker 3: but head of ops for Premier League I think is
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  Speaker 3: headed to USL.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that guy's name? I think he's already there.
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  Speaker 3: No, he's gonna at at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Oh is that when he's moving? Okay, yeah, we can
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  Speaker 1: talk about that then. So I don't know if everybody
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  Speaker 1: was watching. The game that started at eleven thirty was nuts.
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  Speaker 1: So Chelsea at Stanford Bridge hosting west Ham and that
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  Speaker 1: that first half from Chelsea is pretty much quintessential. The
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  Speaker 1: thing that I think has been driving Chelsea less since
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  Speaker 1: they sucked and they were really bad. They were bad.
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  Speaker 3: They were not playing like defending world champions should play like.
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  Speaker 1: That's right there, the World champions. I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: So my question is, well, first off, I want to
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  Speaker 1: take two steps back because the other thing that's weird
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: about today is that NBC and Peacock are not their
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: studio show is not originating from New Jersey, and it
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't ever Becca Lowe, and it doesn't have Tim Howard or.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Childer smug John Champion.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Doing this show from Sky Sports in London with John
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Champion as the host, and it's Graham Lessau in.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Uh another guy's name?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Is it? The arsenal guy that is always what's his name?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I always forget anyway, So the three of them look
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: like they've been stuck in a corner at the Sky
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Sports studio and it's very lucy, goosey and wheels off. Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Plus, I know a lot of people love John Champion.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I just think he's so smart. I love John Champion.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: You don't like John Champion. I mean he's no Peter Drewry,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: but I know, no, Peter drew is the best. He is.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Peter Drewy is the best. So first off, the whole
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: production is very wheels off today. They all feel very
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: disconnected and they're like they've thrown it why. It's like, okay,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: what's your theory is why they're doing this for London?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Isn't Rebecca Lowe hosting the Olympics?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: This is what I think it is.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So she's not available.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm assuming a lot of the NBC Sports people
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: are stuck now on Olympic assignment. Right exactly.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: And you know, and I don't know if weather factored
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: and why they couldn't use a studio in the northeast.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I doubt it, but you know, because they got.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if because at some point they said
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: something about, uh, this would be the first for a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: few weeks of them doing this, So that's what. Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So I'm assuming Rebecca and the NBC crew were all
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: tied up on Olympics and so now they're going to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: move Premier League coverage on Saturdays and Sundays to Sky Sports.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Now we can look forward to this.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so this gets now I'm going to take
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: two steps forward and go into this Chelsea game because
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Chelsea were terrible in the first time.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: They got booed off the field west Ham.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: West Ham, a team fighting to not get relegated. We're
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: up not one, but two to nothing at halftime at
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Stanford Bridge. The last time I think they said I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: think I heard them say this, so I'm going to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: repeat it. The last time Chelsea came back to win
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: at home in a Premier League game after going down
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to nothing was nineteen eighty seven. No, so at halftime.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Now this ties into my questions about the studio show.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Did you happen to watch the half time?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Did you have to know?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, so at halftime Graham Lassoe, John Champion and the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: third guy's name is going to escape me forever.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: You want to know why I didn't listen to them,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: because that's when I drove up here and I listened
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: to the Funhouse instead.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a good one, You're a good ticket employee. Man,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen the NBC show go
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in as hard as they did on Granacho.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: On a player, or on specifically I mean specifically talking
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: about but man, not only did they say this was
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: one of the worst performances they've ever seen seen out
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: of a Premier league player, grahamla Soe was saying this
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the Chelsea.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Guy just from that first half. From the first half,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: they actually went through and took highlights low lights and
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like did graphic circles around Garnacho and showed how he
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: wasn't tracking back and how he wasn't he was jogging
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and not sprinting.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Did you I mean, was it just him or was
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: it a clae Well?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I think Chelsea were bad all the way around, but
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Garnacho had a part in both of the goals, Like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: both those goals came from his side of the field,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't And you know what, look as a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: guy that was used to play for my team, I've
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: seen him do this before. He just doesn't look like
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he's trying very hard. And I've never seen them go
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: in on a player as hard as they did on
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Garnacho today. Yes, and that then ties back to my question,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: which is would they have done that had the studio
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: show originated from New Jersey with Rebecca Low and Tim
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Howard and whoever the third part.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: They would have probably criticized, but not to that extent
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: and that detail.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It was. It was kind of shocking now, of course
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: almost I.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Was going to say, think, think about what happened in
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the locker room, if if, if, if the studio hosts that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: He probably got Yeah, they predicted that he would be
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: yanked at halftime, and he was Senior made a bunch
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: of changes and sure enough, almost on cue and very predictably,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Chelsea not only fought back to tie the game, but
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: ended up winning the game in added time. Enzo Fernandez
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: scored in the ninety second minute to win the game
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: for Chelsea three to two and keep them comfortably up
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: in the top five of the league.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Let's talk West ham for a little bit, because I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: do feel bad for the Hammers. I think they were
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: They were bad last year, remember and I no identity
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: and sloppy and and and I think this year under Spirito,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: under Nuno, they've they've really improved. They they they look good.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: At times, but they just haven't gotten results. And then
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I looked it up.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: They've won four of their nineteen games under him.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've We've been good.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just don't feel they're a team that
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: is that like, they're not as bad as their place
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: at the on the table.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Do you They've been pretty crummy. And I think that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: switching watched them. Yeah, you probably haven't watched him very much,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and I haven't watched a ton of it, but I've
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: watched enough to know that they've been in bad form
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and to the point where I thought they were going
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to fire Nuno too. Now they've made some acquisitions. They
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: got Tusty Castellanos, the guy that used to play at
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: NYCFC and East played pretty well for them. They've got
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a drama Adama Traore, the muscle guy. Yeah, he's playing
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: for the almost he almost got in a fight today.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So west Ham end up losing that game three too.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Chelsea up to fourth place and west Ham stuck in
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: eighteenth after winning their last two games in the Premier League.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: The other one Arsenal. On the heels of losing to
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Manchester United alarmingly last week. They go to Leeds and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Ellen Road today and get a very comprehensive for nothing
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: when over leads. You know, four different goal scorers Gokerez
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: scored today. I'm starting to get really annoyed by the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: goal celebration. But the hand mask. Yeah, I don't know
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: why that annoys me, but I find it annoying.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Did you see the second goal?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: The own goal?
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: The own goal is that I was going to ask,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: is that considered an own goal when the goalie bats
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: it in his own goal?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Yes? That is yes, Okay, that is annoy Yes.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: The annoying thing about that own goal, that which came
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: off a corner kick, is that Arsenal is the best
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: team in the world in this century at corner kicks. Right, Yes,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: how are teams still not preparing.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: For because I will tell you that the secret sauce
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: behind Arsenal's ability to convert corner kicks is almost one
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: hundred percent reliant on Sokka and well not Socca today
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: because he came up to Lemon. The pregame is declan
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Rice's ability to serve that ball in exactly where it
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: needs to be in the melee that they're creating in
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the box there, and I think Arsenal's just getting away
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: with stuff. It's their version of the tush push.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: They didn't have anything to do with that second goal though,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: and you're saying he wanted to place it right there,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: and that was all chaos on the part of the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: defense because they know what's coming, right, and then they
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: get all.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Like everybody knows what's coming. When Arsenal said for a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: corner kick, it's not a secret, it is a thing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So Arsenal end up winning four nothing today. They sit
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: in first. They have a eight point I think that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: is yes, seven or eight point lead over City who
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: play tomorrow seven. Excuse me, I can't do math, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: leads now sit in sixteenth. On twenty six the other
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: results of the day, Brighton got a very late grasping
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of ever, let me start over. Brighton threw away a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: game against Everton is Everton scored in the ninety seventh minute.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Beto on his birthday scored on a junk ball in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the box to tie the game one to one, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Brighton threw that one away. Brighton now on thirteen and
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: thirteenth on thirty one points and Everton uh up to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: eighth goodness gracious on thirty four.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I'm about to be have life without Grealish. Now I'm
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: moving forward.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Well, they got it. They got it done today on
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the road without Jackie jack and then Wolves lost again
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: today at home to Bournemouth to nothing. By the way Bournemouth.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I was worried about Bournemouth after selling Somnio. They are
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: undefeated in their last fourth since selling that. Okay, the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: reel has got them screwed together. Croopy is a baller.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Wolves is not as bad as one win and twenty
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: four matches, right, I don't feel like I'm not.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: No, I would say to me, looks better than west
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Ham does.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. Fair.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Of the three teams in the relegation zone, I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Wolves have been the one where like, okay, they're this
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: close to breaking through, but they've lost so many games
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to start the season. They'll never get out of this.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: So there you go. There are the results in the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Premier League today. Let's take a break. When we come back,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: well preview tomorrow's games, and yes, maybe we'll talk a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: little Manchester United next on the kick around. Nice finish, Andy, congratulations.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I need to compliment on you because the setup of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: this studio is the TVs showing the Liverpool Newcastle game
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: are behind me. I'm not looking at them, Andy is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: And while I kind of goofed on him at the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: beginning of the segment because Newcastle scored to open the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: segment and take a one nothing lead, somehow you did
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: not react or give up the fact that while I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: was prattling on about other things, Liverpool scored not once,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: but twice. It's emotional control. It's hard.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: It's hard not to grimace when your team goes down
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: at home early in the game, which is what I did.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: What what you noticed, right, But then when we went up,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: when we tied it, and then we went up, We
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: we Liverpool nation, We are all in this together. You
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: don't want to get too high, you don't want to
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: get too up because forty five minutes remain. But I
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: do feel like our season could have turned around.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Walk through now, walk on through the rain. Okay, walk on,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: walk on on, walk.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: On such a Liverpool fan. Yes, Liverpool is at the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: half leading Newcastle two to one on a forty first
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and forty third minute goals by Ekateke with his freshly
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: platinum blonde hair. All right, tomorrow a nice set of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: games for everybody to dive into. Aston Villa hosting Brentford
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Villa in third place. Unai Emery's got this team cooking,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: playing well in the Champions League.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I think we can now say that Villa's legit. And
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: remember they got off to a poor start and a
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: lot of people are like, oh see, Villa's done. It
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: was just a two year thing.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: This and that Whoa's got him going right? No, look,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I we've I've talked a lot about this. I think
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: that the he's more with less, yes, and uh you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: so we'll see how the season finishes out for them,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: very very nice finish. Let's think they're a lock for
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: top four. Uh oh yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Brentford,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, was had that really disappointing result
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: against Nottingham Forest the other day. In fact, they've lost
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: their last two. Kind of a shocking turn. And events
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that Brentford has been so good, the fact that they
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: lost to in a row kind of caught me off guard.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Nottingham Forest is hosting Crystal Palace. Poor Crystal Palace. I
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: feel so bad for them. Nottingham Forest.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: On the other day, I don't feel bad for Nottingham Forest.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Well, they're undefeated in their last three. They've won two
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of their last three games, and you know, they're playing
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: way better.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: They're skirting the relegation zone.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Their igor scoring some nice goals. He scored a really
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: nice goal in Europe. Yeah on Thursday. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: yeah he did. And so the other game tomorrow. The
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: two other games tomorrow, first off, Manchester United hosting Fulham.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: So this is a new era. Hey, I I didn't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: get my paper this week. What was the result of
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that Manchester United Arsenal game on Sunday? I didn't get
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: my paper. I don't know the score.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I think I think United one.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: They Oh that's right, I think I heard something about that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they won? Was it three three two three? Two?
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Look I was rooting for United. Well, of course
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: you were, okay, so I had you know, you are,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: and I say it's the new era because your new coach, interim,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: whatever caretaker is that the he has in two matches
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: led the team to victories over Arsenal and City. Is
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: this the greatest start of any coach with any team
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: in the history of soccer.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Have you actually gone back and looked at the results
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: he got when he was the interim the last time?
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: No, no, tell me, he's.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Run, he's beaten. I think he's go back. I don't
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: remember off the top of my head, but there is
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: a often repeated stat that Carrick's run as manager now
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: twice interrom is loaded up of like five or six
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: games of him beating some of the biggest managers and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: teams in.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: The What does Anderson have to do to get hired
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: on as a manager?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So here's we were in this exact same position with
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: only gunnarsol Shire and we made the mistake of keeping
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: him on. And here's here's the thing before Okay, go ahead,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna say.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: You're saying now it was a mistake where last week
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: with Lars you said, you know, things could have been
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: a little different had they gone Ronaldo he was actually
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: doing a good job.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: And well they got yeah, okay, so let me quest
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: let me qualify it. The one thing happened after another,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the Ronaldo thing is what screwed up Skullshire's run ultimately
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: with United the last time.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Krick on the other hand, I am totally up for
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to become full time manager of this team, but I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: also think it behooves them to wait till the end
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: of the season a see how that goes, and b
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: find out who else becomes available.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: You know what, who is to get a manager that
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: gets some results.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Right, Because and Lars has brought this up, which is
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: it there? There is a difference between setting the team
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: up in the way that they've played these two games,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: just two games, and then also being a team that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: can get results to the point that you are winning
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the Premier the Premiership and also competing for the biggest
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: trophies in Europe. And I think the question remains is
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: what Keric is doing now a sustainable model or something
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that can work on the long term.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Or said that's the question mark with any coach who
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: you know this, but if they wait, like in the past,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: they've been able to go out who they want to get.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I mean the United job is one of the premier jobs.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: It is, But I do think this is the market
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: because the marketplace is going to be different this summer.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: What leads you to believe that their decision making is
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: going to be any better in terms of who they
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: get as a manager.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So this United in the last twelve years have a
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: marked history of winning big games against big clubs. They've
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: won a year European Cup, They've won FA Cup, They've
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: won the League's Cup, They've beaten pep multiple times. They've
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: beaten you know, other big names in the Premier League.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: They've done. Hold on, let me finish you ask me
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a question of answering it. Where they have fallen short
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: or in these games like hosting Fulham, losing to Bourne myth?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: So what I was going to say, losing against it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: So the answer to your question is can we just
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: wait and see how the next fifteen games go before
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: we start anointing a guy a manager full time?
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Just wait so you can find a manager one day
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: that can beat Fulham and.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Forest great right exactly, So if you know, what does
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the value of beating Arsenal at Arsenal and City at home? Mean?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: If you can't beat Fulham tomorrow. Okay, your next four matches, Okay,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: this is very important at home Fulham, right at home,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Spurs correct Road, west Ham Yep, Road Everton Yep. Now
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I would tell you all four of those games, all
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: four of those winnable. Get par I agree, Okay, Fullham,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: it is good. Actually, Okay, so there's twelve points on
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the table. They should I, in my opinion, get at
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: least eleven of those ten of those points, like three
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: wins in a draw, just being reasonable. Now, I think
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of people will tell you you should be
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: getting all twelve. Yeah, full them is a tough game.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I also do at home. Here's the other thing that's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: really weird right now. A lot of people are freaking
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: out that Dorgu is hurt, like he pulled up lame,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: pulled a hamstring. He's out for like ten weeks. When
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: did we suddenly decide dog is such a critical and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: important part of this team that to me also seems
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit weird. Who's saying that?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: The fan base?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fans are like, oh no, we don't have Dorgu.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: He scored that banger against Arsenal, and he scored against
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Newcastle and he's played so well as a left wing.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, man base is back and engaged.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Be happy about that because your team right now is
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: in a Champions League spot.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Did you know that they're in fifth, which is a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Champions League spot? Probably yes, So you know two of.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Three are going to be in Champions League. One is
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: out Chelsea United Liverpool. Two of those three likely make.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: One out one of them. Yes. Now. The other thing
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: is I said earlier that I had forgot to put
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: into the calculation of United in Fulham tomorrow is Oscar
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Bob has signed from City to Fulham, and I'm curious
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: to see if he slots in Fulham is largely healthy
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Munez I think is still out in another players out,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: but the addition of Oscar Bob I think makes them
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a better team. Marco Silva is a really good coach,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and I don't think this game is going to be
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: easy tomorrow.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: That's what I've been saying.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were just giving us a pass
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to a Champions League spot.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying Carricks should be considered here.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Second. Okay, if he loses to Fulham at home tomorrow,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: do you still feel the same way.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, so the other game, didn't you just go get Marien.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: You'll get out of the way.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: The other game tomorrow, Tottenham hosting City. I think this
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: game is interesting too. Pep needs a result to keep
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: up with Arsenal Man. Thomas Frank needs a win in
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the worst possible way.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: This is an interesting one because if he doesn't win
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: at home against City tomorrow, he's he's on the edge, right,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's like a bad resist.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: They won a Champions League and there they made the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: which we'll talk about. Yeah, we'll talk about that.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Losing at home, but you lose against City, I don't
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: know if that's enough to move him.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: My thing with Tottenham is the following And I've said
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: this to Lars, and Lars dismisses out of hand. He
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: thinks he's done with the Thomas Frank experience.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was clear when we spoke to him
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: last week.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I would say, if you go through and look, Tottenham
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: currently has the largest number of injuries. I think not
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: only do they have the largest total number, I think
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: they had the largest number of significant injuries. Lacking Madison, Koulishevsky,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: several other players that I think are really critical, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I believe in Thomas Frank enough that if he had
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: all of his parts, Tottenham would not be in the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: position they're in today.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: So you feel you have a better grasp on Spurs
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: than Lars.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I think Lars is coming at it from a fan,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: from an emotional Spursy place.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And of like you get with United.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And my question is who are you going to go
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: out and get except him? Because I exactly that's my point. Well,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: but my other because I would say Tottenham is in
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the same situation that the United is in, which is
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: if you're going to change the manager, you might as
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: well wait until the market completely reveals itself. And after
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the summer in the World Cup. And then on Monday
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Sunderland is hosting Burnley on Monday. So there's your rest
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: of the run in in the Premier League. Would you
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: like to make predictions tomorrow on tomorrow's games?
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I want you to predict United against Fulham. That's the
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: only prediction I worry about you think tomorrow.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: This is my honest answer to that question. To two. Really, yep, okay,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Fulham are not a bad side, They're a very good team. Yes,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Harry Wilson will hit a banger on you man.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: They're like three or four points out of.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: If they win. If they win the game tomorrow, there'll
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: be one point behind United for fifth. Yeah, so there
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you go. All right. EA is in my year yelling
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: at me to take a break. So we will do
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that when we come back. It was an amazing week
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: in the Champions League. We will dive into it next year.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: On the kick around, you understanding, So you're coming to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Dallas for the World Cup. What possibly could you be
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: doing to fill your time? We'll get into those juicy
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: details coming up in World Cup nerd happening in about
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or so. Here on the Kickerround, Welcome back
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: to the soccer show of Record here on little Ticket.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: The World Cup is near Andy. I'm so excited about this,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: so very very.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Exciting to watch some games.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch all the games, Okay, all of
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the four games, yes, even the third place game. Yes.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Remind me. I want to talk about the kickoff times
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: here in Dallas, because Ika, something I thought about this.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I had not put two seconds a thought of it,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and suddenly it dawned on me I probably should know that.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: And when I looked at it. I was a bit surprised.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that, all right. Champions League finished
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: up its group stage this week on Wednesday, all of
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the games, okay, so let's have this. Let's is playing
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: eighteen games at the exact same time A good idea?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Is it? Eighteen games?
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Eighteenth? Yeah?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Thirty six times?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: That good? Good math?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Andy, Yeah, it is. It does make it a little
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: bit hard to follow. But because it is single table
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: and everybody's competing against everybody, they have to play them
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: at the same time, right, so that other teams don't
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: have competitive advantage of knowing results.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: But am I incorrect in saying? And that when it
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: was the previous setup, they broke that up over two days.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they were in groups, so the only the
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: only times that you matter was within your team.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So then yes, So they played some games on Tuesday
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and the rest of them on Wednesday.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: And they even staggered on that last day.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And I think it was at halftime of Wednesday's barrage
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: of Champions League games, I get a text from Andy,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: who is clearly frustrated by Paramount Plus's Galazzo show, and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that's passively aggressively brags to me that he's now converting
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: over to one of his other languages and will be watching.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: The Univision Mexican They take a little bit more Mexican
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: and other Spanish language Spanish language broadcast. So yeah, because
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: they take they take coverage a little bit more seriously. Man,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a goof show that that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think they're trying to have fun with it,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: but I also think the top I do think trying.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: So you'll have to tell me what is the difference
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: between how Galazo show covers eighteen games? Does TD? Does
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Univision have a wrap around?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: No, they don't have the similar wrap around show.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: How do they do it?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: They focus on a game and then go to goals.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like goal rush. So what game had
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the equivalent of goal rush?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: So what was? I think they had Barcelona that was
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: their focus on.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if I remember, or maybe that was the Madrid
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: game actually okay, which ended up being one of the
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: big games. I don't know, it's just the approach is
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: a little different, that's all.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I'd love to check it out. I just don't.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, well that's you know, that's on you, so uh no,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: you can't watch Paramount. So just what I finally did?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I just put it on Paramount, but I put it
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: on the Liverpool match and just listen to it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I just I put it on the wrap around
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the Galazo Show and I just muted it. Okay, that's all.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: That's probably the best way to watch that show is
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to put it on mute.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: And what's the woman host? She's like the one voice
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: of reason and that, and she's funny and she just
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: goes along with the goofiness.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It's her name? Oh oh the studio host? Yeah, Kate Kate. Yes,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: she's good, she's amazing.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: If you take her out of that, it is like
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: a disaster.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, it would be a kindergarten, right, yes.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: So but this format is fun because I don't know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: it was a seventy fifth minute all across the board,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: all games and things were lots of things were up
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: in the air, including does Madrid stay in the top eight?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Do all the English teams stay in the top eight?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Do some of them not? Do only half go? Who's in?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Who's out?
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Barcelona was in out?
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many different things to unpacked. I do
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: think in honor of our good friend, Lars. We should
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: spend the first thing talking about Bodo Glimpse because that
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: is such a part of the it is. But ultimately,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Boto Glimp getting a result at Athletico Madrid, which I
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: think they're like only the second team ever to get
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a Champions League win. Uh that is not a Spanish
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: side or some weird stat like Boto Glimp going to
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: that place and getting a win is significant. And then
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: also qualifying as they have is of note. And Lars
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I heard Lars really, you know a lot of people
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: were calling on Lars to kind of talk about this
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: because obviously it's the team from his motherland, and I
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: thought Lars based inside the Arctic circle bar Way, yes,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: based outside, you know. I think Lars very smartly pointed
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: out a few things that really make this special. One
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: is that it's a The eleven starting players on the team,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: nine of them are Norwegians, and Lars points out that
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Bodoglimp has done a very good job of finding Norwegian
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: players who have gone off to play in the Bundesliga
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: or La Liga or other big leagues and just not
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: cut it or didn't like it, and gotten them to
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: come back to play in Norway and that has really
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: powered them as a team.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Because they have a little bit of experience with this
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: whole kind of Yes.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: And the other crazy note about Bodoglimpt is they're currently
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: out of season. Remember in the in the Norwegian season,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: they play the old MLS, you know, the old MLS
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: or the current MLS calendar, which is they're out of
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: season until I think next month or later in February.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: They don't want to play in the snow, so they
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: don't want to play in the snow. So they have
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: not played a league game since late or late November
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: early December, which is a big deal.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I just wonder how the team trains,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: if they train in Norway or if they're.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I think they do find camp somewhere else. So finishing
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: up this window by beating City at home and then
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: going on the road to Spain and winning a game
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: against Atletico Madrid is a huge accomplishment.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: And by the way, Atletico had to get a result
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: because they wanted to finish top eight or they had
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: a chance to finish top eight as well, so it
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: wasn't like they weren't trying, right, And had they won
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: that game. Had Madrid won that game, they likely would
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: have finished top eight.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: And for the troubles Bodo Glimp now has to play
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: inter Milan.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the leaders their season, this was their season, advancing
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: here that this is their year. They're good.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: The amount of money they'll make just forgetting this far
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and playing these two play in games or playoff games
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: is massive and congratulations to them. Car Bag finishing and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: qualifying is a huge deal. They get Newcastle in the
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: in the knockout stage. The other knockout playoff.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Games not considered a strong sucker.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: That's why it's a big deal. You said it like
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: you were drunk. Monaco gets PSGs Francis and don't forget
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: PSG had to play playoffs last year and won the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: whole damn thing, so don't count them. Galatasarai gets Ventis
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and Weston McKenny. Benfica gets Real Madrid. So after besting
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Real Madrid with the double, okay, explain it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: No, no, you can explain it. Heading into the match, Real
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Madrid needed a result in order to finish top eight
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: and get a bye.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Benfica was fighting for their lives.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: They need just to stay in the tournament.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: They needed to win and hope for goal difference.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, So going into the very very late stage, while
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: they have a three to two lead over Real Madrid,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: they are not in. They are not in. They are
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a goal short and they need a goal. And they
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: are the last of the games still being played because
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: their game had drug out for so long. It was
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: the final of the eighteen games that was still being played,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: so all eyes were on Portugal.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And Madrid is going for a goal because they need
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: to tie to get in the top eight.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Sure, okay, So they get all the way down to
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the ninety hundredth minute of the game, Benfica gets a
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: corner kick.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Shit, and then the camera rolls to Marina.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: What does he do?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: He says, go on, keeper points at his goalkeeper, and
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: his goalkeeper runs all the way up and I'll be
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: damned if it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Wasn't a corner kick. I think it was a free kick.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: A free kick. The keeper heads it in to win
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the game at the death, and it was a really
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: nice hdder it was.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: And you know they on social media you could see
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: angles taken by fans, all different angles, reaction inside the stadium.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you did this. I listened to
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: the goal call from Portugal, from Germany, other countries, we
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: played the one from England.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I think we played the English. It was yeah, yeah,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the English.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Right, fantastic moment. Man. And like we said, I don't
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: know if there's a more exciting thing that happens in soccer,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: then the goalkeeper scoring at the death got to be
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: the most rare to win the game.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, winning a game at the death in itself
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: is rare, but to have your goalkeeper score it is
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: like the ultimate of rarities.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Now this is where it leads into this week because Mourinho,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: they score that goal, referee blows the whistle.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Game over.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: You know what Mourinho does ass he goes in front
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: of the Real Madrid bench.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: It just does this.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you show this on radio.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is a audible only medium. Yeah, he was
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: shaking his fist, he was celebrating it, and he had
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: to apologize. And who do they draw next round? Yeah?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: So Benfica gets Real Madrid.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: So you just gave him locker room.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: He just did. You just put the screws to his
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: former team. Now they're going to put the screws to him.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Is there any way, Real Madrid does zero zero, So
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: would you take your portfolio and put it on Real
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Madrid to best Benfica in this seventh playoff round. The
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: other one Brusia Dortmund gets Atalanta, car bag gets Newcastle.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: As I said, Club Bruges will be facing off against
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Atletico Madrid, Boto Glimpt gets first place, Sarria team enter
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Milan and Olympiakos and buyer Levercusa.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: And the other story is that five of the six
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Premier League teams advanced on the buy right, So five
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: of the eight teams getting a buye are Premier League.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of talk about this because of the obvious
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: narrative that it indicates the thing that we've been talking
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: about for a while, which is eventually Premier League clubs
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: having so much money, so much more money than other
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: European clubs in TV is eventually going to catch up.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: And I I think we're seeing that a little bit
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: to a degree. Yes, But you know what, English teams
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: need to start winning these competitions for it to really
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: mean something. Yeah, not just Champions League but Europa League
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: and Conference League. They've got to start winning those on
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the on it with some sort of consistency for me
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: to feel like it's a I.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Don't know man. Okay, fair that ultimately the goal is
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: the trophy. But you know what, one of the funniest
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: things I saw this week or read this week was
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Lars a tweet by Lars where he says, understandable how
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: the big European teams now want to play or are
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: asking for the Super League because you know they don't
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: want to face teams.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Like Budo Glen Right, Yeah, exactly. I thought the other
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: thing that I somebody brought this up. It may have
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: been Nicky Bandini. I heard mention, this is part of
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: my problem with this schedule and the way this Whiss
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: model works out is the imbalance in some of the
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: games because if you are a Premier League team, you
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: are exempt from playing other Premier League teams. Okay, So
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: she pointed out the fact that if you go look
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: at Tottenham's schedule through the group stage, it's pretty lightweight
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: because they don't have to play other Premier League teams.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And that is especially when you get loaded up with
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: six English teams in a particular.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: So you're gonna you're by default you're gonna get teams
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: that are a little bit weaker, right, I think that's
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: what the.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Just in this type, in this in this model. But
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I also think it comes with advantages. I think that
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of what happened on Wednesday was truly really exciting.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: But I don't I think there are pros and cons
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to each of the each of the systems. I just
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: don't can't figure out which one I prefer.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, you've had two years now to think about it,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: and you're a nerd that thinks about these things.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Rubber match it after a third Okay, so just so
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: before we go, Opta has Arsenal. By the way, the
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: team that I originally predicted to win the Champions League.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: They are the favorite at twenty nine point eight percent
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to win the Champions League. Bayern Munich in second on
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: fourteen point nine City third at ten point five percent.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Look who Andy's Liverpool floating around in fourth place at
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: eight point nine percent, Chelsea in fifth at seven five
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: and goes down.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: How do you put the World Champions below Liverpool when
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Liverpool is not even top four Right now?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: In England, Boto glimped twenty second at zero percent chance
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to Champions League.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: They're seasons made I mean, they're just the fact that
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: they got this far.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Good times. All right, Well, those games
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: will pick up here. When are those games late?
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I believe?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Okay, Yeah, so we'll catch
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: back up with those when they kick off. We'll take
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: a break when we come back. It's I'm for World
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Cup NERD here on the Kick Around. So something interesting
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: that I think the good Kick around listener's been waiting for.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Peter and Andy talk promotion, relegation.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: What speak for yourself I'm laying.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Now, and the introduction of the USL Premier League. We'll
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: talk about that in great detail coming up in about
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes to finish out the show here on the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Kick Around. All right, So Andy, I'm curious did you
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: happen to read an email that I sent you earlier
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: this week? Did you read the email I sent this
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: week to you?
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Probably not If it was you that sent it to me,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: that's so sad. Did it's ay from Peter it and
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: then I didn't read it?
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sure no. I sent an email to you and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: kat Oh with the times.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we talked about the times you and I
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: already had.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: We talked I included you because I thought it was
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: it was important.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: But we already talked about the time, but.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I also brought it up and now I'm fine. I'm
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: trying to find it. Now I can't find it because
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the kickoff times for the games here in Dallas are interesting.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: They're not like I was worried because we're going to
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: be doing a nightly show on the ticket as we
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: always do during the World Cup at seven PM, that
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: we'd end up butting into a bunch of games out
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: at at and T and it doesn't work out that way.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Like the majority of the games here in Dallas all
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: kick off anywhere from noon until like six pm. I
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: think we have one game that will be going on
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: while we're on the air, and then there's one night
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: where the game kicks off at nine pm.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that the games across all venues for
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: this World Cup, I mean they're all over the map.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: And so so I was just looking at it from
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: on a ailea basis how it'll affect the show because
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: we are you know, there will be days when we
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: were when we have the show during some games. But
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about it from just the Dallas perspective
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: which allows us to go to games.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Then right, well, that's kind of the other thing I
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: was wondering is is now are we going to have
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the ability to go to games this Yeah, this time around.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: That would be great if, in fact we could pull
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: that off. So anyway, it is time for World Cup, nerd,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to So here's the thing. Earlier this week,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: to give Andy credit, he disclosed he didn't want to
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: get caught with ticket non disclosure.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: EA.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: He wanted to give everybody, me in particular, the heads up.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just because I thought it'd bank for an interesting segment.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: That was the impetition.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I thought you were trying to avoid being accused of
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: ticket yeah closure.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, also because you got me.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Uh So Andy was featured a feature a story all
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: about Andy.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: About I don't think so, in the.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Great American Soccer periodical Soccer America.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, that was nice.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: It was a World Cup article. It was just.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Asking me some questions about my opinions about World Cup
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: related topics. But one of the topics, and this is
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: what I wanted to talk about because I wanted to
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: get your thoughts on it. One of the things that
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: they asked me about is what I would tell those
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: coming to visit Dallas from abroad, other parts of the US,
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: but more particularly, more particularly those that come from outside
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: of the country.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Things to do in Dallas are Argentinian guests, are Japanese guests,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Our Dutch guest, Croatian, Croatian guests, Britz will come, English,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Britz will be coming, yes.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: And some unknown country that we don't know yet and
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: we won't know until March. But not to mention Austrians
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: one in Germany and George you got Granada ghana right, yes, anyway,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: So and it's an interesting it's a you know, and
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: I always I put my you know, I like to
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: travel and I put my travel hat on. It's like, okay,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: if I were traveling somewhere what you know, and I
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: gravitate to food, and I don't know if you agreed
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: with me, and I said, you know, the three pillars
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: of Texas cuisine are Texas steak text, mex and barbecue,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: you have to agree with that, Like, yeah, when Mars
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: came the three places swanky steakhouse and you took what.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: What what what? What steakhouse did we go to?
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Well? Can we say yeah? Albernets, Albert right, and it's
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: the scene and all that.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: And I took him to Rafa's, my favorite Text Mex place,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: and we took him to Cadillac for barbecue.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: One of the top barbecue places, and Lars wanted to
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: move here. Yeah, well he I don't think he He
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: was polite about text Mex.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: He was like, it was interesting. I think text Mex
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: threw him off a little bit.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: But he loved the steak and he loved the barbecue.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Did he love the barbecue?
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: And my point with barbecue in the story was I do.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: And I know the Carolinas and the Deep South and
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Missouri and Kansas all they have their barbecue opinions. But
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I do think we have the best barbecue in the
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: country because I think the smoking process eliminates the need
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: for sweet sauces and all that, and you just eat
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: the meat and it's really good. But that got me
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: thinking about something else, and that is that a lot
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: of people from this area resent and and so then
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I have to think, Okay, from a tourist perspective, what
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: makes our area unique? Right? Okay, Because when you travel somewhere,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: you want to see what is unique about the place
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: you're traveling to.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: And you can't find other places.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people in Dallas for Worth resent
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: that we are looked at as like, you know, honky tonk,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Western culture all that, but you know, and for Worth
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: embraces it.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dallas not as much.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: And I know people aren't riding horses or wearing their
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: cowboy hats. But honestly, if you come to Dallas Fort Worth,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: it is a modern city, good arts culture, good food scene,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: live music. But those are things you can get in
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: other cities, other modern cities in the world and in
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: the US. But one thing that is very unique to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: our area is the Western culture. And so if you
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: come from abroad, enjoy that a little.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Bit and go out and how do you And but
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: if somebody said, hey, Peter, I want to come to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth and enjoy the Western culture short of
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: sending them to the stockyards, I don't know what that is. Well,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: my point was, do go out there. This is what
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: are doing between games.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Do go out there, but then also enjoy what Dallas
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: has to offer in its modern environment and with its
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: walking neighborhoods. And I think if you just explore and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: get to meet the people, they don't have to wear
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: cowboy hats and ride horses for it to for for
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: you to for you to assure some of the Texas culture,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: and I need some of that cuisine we mentioned.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it is I hadn't really thought about this,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: but you're right, because people are going to ask you
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: and me and other people. Okay, I'm coming to Dallas
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: because I'm coming to a couple of games. What do
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I do? And I would feel a little cliche by
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: saying go to the Stockyards, but I do think that's important.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I think going to see where else, especially if you
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: can go to the Kimball while you're out there, because
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: that's such a fantastic museum. And I do think fort
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Worth in many ways gets short changed in the scheme
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: of things because it's always Dallas. Well, yeah, everything is
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: always Dallas, and Fort Worth is such a cool place
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and there's so many cool things in Fort Worth to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: go absorb. But I also would assume a lot of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: people coming over here, like many people who travel, like
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: to experience shopping, and Dallas is a really good place
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: to go high level shop. Go to North Park, one
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: of the last remaining like legitimately Malls, No North Park.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Is Yeah, it's it's a I'm a I'm a mall
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: nerd and it's very Dallas, and it is extremely Dallas,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: and the other one, I mean, I think it's kind
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: of weird.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: But Highland Park Village in its own way is kind
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: of a experience.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: And that was my point too, that I said, uh,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: go identify and I listed somebody identify some of these areas,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: some of these neighborhoods where you go and and enjoy
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: the micro local culture.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Bishop of Arts, Trinity Groves, Bishop Arts Deep. Yeah,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of little places like that that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I think are going to work out and prosper. Now,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: this also raises a really interesting thing that you and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I have talked about, because I I'm just gonna speak
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: for me. I had worked under the assumption that because
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Dallas and Fort Worth had lined up and defined multiple
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: locations for national teams to base themselves from this area,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I just assumed that Frisco and Mansfield and whatever the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: other ones are, we're all going to get snatched up quickly,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: especially by those teams that are playing multiple games here
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: in the group stage. Well, here we are. And while
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: none of them I think have officially been announced lots
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: of national teams have already indicated that they have chosen
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: their locations. Germany has chosen.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: A play and that was a first indication when Germany
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: chose North Carolina, nothing to do with any venue that
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: they were even playing in, right, And some others came
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: out and yeah, so there's resils.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Up in New York, I think somewhere, and lo and behold,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: none of the Dallas Fort Worth locations have been even
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: hinted at for any of them beyond what you and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I beyond what I've said, which is, while I assume
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Argentina will take Frisco just because it's such a perfect
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: facility for a team playing two games here.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: And they what privacy is important to them, so you know,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: who knows everything that eventually makes a national team decide
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: where they're going in a base camp.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: It will be weird if we don't end up with
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: one of the big national teams and we end up
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: with Senegalgueira, well, one of the smaller national teams. But
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I do think part of the reason beyond privacy, because
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: if if Argentina was really worried about privacy, they could
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: pick the Mansfield location. I mean, that would just be
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: as as private as any other location in the United
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: States because it's so far out there and it's going
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: to be brand new and et cetera, et cetera. But
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's because everybody just assumes it's going to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: be a billion degrees and they don't want to have
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: to train.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: That heat is a factor here, and it does if.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: And I hadn't even thought about that.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: If you base camp, if you base camp for a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: base camping means you are somewhere for an extended period
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: of time, and we know that heat affects you if
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: you're training in it over an extended period time. Does
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: it as opposed to this in and out right?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Because for a long time people thought it was the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: other way around. Oh, home field advantage.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Right, That's why the Rangers didn't win the World Series
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: until they got an indoor See. Oh, now you're baseball expert. Excellent? Yeah, so,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: uh so, have you put together Andy Swift's official restaurant
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: fiver for DFW visiting?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: No, we should, uh, we should create one for Lars
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: since he's going to join us, right.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Lars is going to be living here for
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: six weeks. Who have we pawned Lars off Ontol because
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: he can't stay at mine. Is he staying at your house?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: No, he's welcome to, but he's gonna have to deal
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: with my very crazy doggie. So I don't think he'll
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: love He loves dogs, so do I. So do you?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: My dogs a special, special, special need.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Buppy dog. He's just a little anxious nippy.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: Inside the house. Outside the house, he's like, Uh, everybody's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: friends really, So.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: If anybody would like to have Lars Sivertston stay at
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: their house, contact me. We'll see if we can't throw
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: a deal. Oh my god, you're throwing it out there. Wow. No,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I think I know where. I think I know. But
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: maybe we can get a deal, like I can, you know,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: save some money, put him up at a p one's house.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Let's just what about the W right here, Let's just
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: put him up there.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I don't we don't have the budget. Yeah, the budget
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: was the budget for the for everything was approved this
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: week and we do not have w budget. Let me
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: put it that way, sir. We might have over there
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: on Harry Hins Circle in budget, but not the w content.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. There's world cup NERD.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: When we come back. It has taken many years for
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: us to finally do it, but here it is Andy
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: and Peter's hard and fast stance on promotion and relegation
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and all that implies. Next on The Kick Around with
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: a Fun and the Invasions bird House this Wednesday morning
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: at eleven thirty on Sports Radio ninety sixty seven and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: thirteen ten their ticket you have survived to a final
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: segment of today's episode of The Kick Around. Congratulations to you.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: We will be back next week though close. In fact,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I think we're doing shows up until ticket Stock. Yeah,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: in February. By the way, I haven't told you this,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: but I volunteered us to do an appearance.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Oh you didn't assume that I was already opting to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: be out of town.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: And were got to ask us to do anything ticket Stock.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Thanks for checking with me first.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I'm always curious why famous athletes sell off their stuff,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: especially when they're not very old. Debt okay, John Terry,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Chelsea famous spend money. He had a big option.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: He wants to buy a yacht.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's got debt to pay. John Terry sold fifty
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: different items in an auction recently. He gathered, including buyer's premiums.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Just make think of the number that you think. So
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: fifty items, what do you think the total of one
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand, six hundred and ninety five thousand dollars And
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: it include a photo matched Messy Barcelona jersey from the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: group stage in six against Chelsea.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Was it signed by mess It was?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: It was not. What do you think it's sold for?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Guess the message jersey? Yeah from six Heyday two thousand.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Eighty three thousand and he also sold a Ronaldo jersey
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: from when they played against United Or in the Premier League. No, no, not,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: oh the fake Ronaldo okay R seven. That one went
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: for one thousand and fifty uh one hundred fifty dollars. Yes.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: He also sold off a non Ree jersey for ninety
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: eight thousand, and a Bufon keeper jersey from Juventus. Yeah,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: cigarette burns in with twenty two thousand. But here's the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: weird one. He sold off a bunch of his trophies.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Like I guess players get player replica trophies.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Man, he sold off a two thousand and seven replica
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: player FA Cup Champion trophy and it sold for twenty
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars. Wow, isn't that crazy. Yeah, I hope
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: everything's okay with John.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: No explanation doesn't say okay.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: And oh wait, okay, it does say this unspecified portion
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: of the proceeds will go towards the John Terry Foundation,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: which benefits disadvantage the world in the United Kingdom.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: It's the world fun.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: No, just John Terry Foundation.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, not the world, not.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: The World fun No, not Andy Swift's personal Oh come on,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: that was food pantry. We mentioned this earlier in the show.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: The big one of the big headlines of the week,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and we've been waiting for this for a while. Is
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: you know back several months ago, USL announced that they
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: had been given the green light to launch their own
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  Speaker 1: first division league, but the details of what that would
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  Speaker 1: look like had not yet arrived, and the only thing
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  Speaker 1: they had pimped because this is the clickbait, which is
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: it would include some form of promotion relegation. Well, this
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: week we got many more details in a press release.
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  Speaker 1: In a press release. We still have a ton of questions.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know if you've promoted
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  Speaker 3: this or sent it out, but you wrote something on
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: substack and I read it because you sent it to me.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought it was.
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  Speaker 3: Really good, and you make some you make some excellent points.
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  Speaker 3: So I would encourage you, Peter, to promote it and
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  Speaker 3: send that out and let others share in your knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: I will click, I will tweet the link out, okay,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: and you can also just it's on Twitter. Just I'll
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  Speaker 1: put it out there. It's just it's free. My substack
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  Speaker 1: is free. Nobody wants to pay for my money.
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  Speaker 3: People. I think you offered me two dollars if I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: would read it first. But you make some really good points,
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  Speaker 3: very fair balanced, its objective, I think, and it and
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  Speaker 3: what I like is that you took the tone of
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  Speaker 3: somebody that has been following the game here in this
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  Speaker 3: country for a bit, and following a professional league for
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: a bit, right, and professional leagues we have leagues, right,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: not just MLS but other well soccer.
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  Speaker 1: Many things that have happened to me in my life
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: at my advanced age, our advanced age is the reality,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the realization that my perspective, our perspective as gen X,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: is different from other generations that didn't experience what you
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: and I did as kids in the United States back
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties, which where no soccer which well,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: two things. One, we watched the league of our youth,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: the NASL, devour itself, and then we had this extended
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: period of time where we had no professionals, just indoor soccer.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, right, yeah, as I said, no professional soccer, right,
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  Speaker 1: So and so that to me has largely informed my
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  Speaker 1: willingness to be more accepting of the structure of Major
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  Speaker 1: League Soccer.
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  Speaker 3: So before yeah, and let's go, let's you make five
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: good points, five points that you outlined in your and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: your story before we do again, let's, in a very
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: simple way, just let the p one know what the
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  Speaker 3: USL has said. They have said. They have said that
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  Speaker 3: starting in twenty twenty eight, they are going to receive
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  Speaker 3: Division I status from USSF.
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  Speaker 1: Which, in the eyes of US Soccer is sanctioning equal
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  Speaker 1: to are on the same level as Major League Soccer.
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  Speaker 3: Right, so they can be another Division one league. And
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  Speaker 3: they're saying they're going to launch this league in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Eight, correct, Okay. Now, part of the reason why I'm
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  Speaker 1: personally excited by this, as many of you know, we
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  Speaker 1: already know here in Dallas specific we have a club
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  Speaker 1: launching in USL next year in twenty twenty seven at
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Letco Dallas, which will start in the USL Championship. Right,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: many people don't know this, but it is not a
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: secret that we anticipate in the coming months, if not weeks,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: there will be another team announced which will be playing
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: at Farrington Field in Fort Worth.
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  Speaker 3: So a Terrent County team as well. And terror they
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  Speaker 3: going to want to be a Division one.
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  Speaker 1: The idea is that I believe now you know everybody
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  Speaker 1: is hedging on this, but I suspect the idea is
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  Speaker 1: that USL Premier, which is they are now officially calling
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: that to you and I for always it calling it
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: that Andy will feature a DFW Darby from the jump,
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  Speaker 1: and when I think about that, that really grabs my attention.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, it's great, but I think a lot not
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people, but I think some and those
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  Speaker 3: especially those that like promotion relegation, assume this. This structure
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  Speaker 3: is going to have promotion relegation. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: Division one. It's going to be right up there with
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  Speaker 3: MLS now And you are here to tell everybody why not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the first and foremost you have to remember Major
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: League Soccer has a thirty year head start and that
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  Speaker 1: is a significant thing that is not going to be
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  Speaker 1: easily overcome. So there are five things that I've broken
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  Speaker 1: out in this article that I think are important to
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  Speaker 1: think of, and this is the easiest way for me
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: to parse it into bite sized chunks. First off, currently
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  Speaker 1: USL does not have a working collect of Bargaining agreement.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Their previous CBA expired at the end of the twenty
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  Speaker 1: five season. They have been negotiating a new one for
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: quite a bit of time, and it has gotten as
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: it always does no matter what the sport is, it's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: always contentious. But the twenty six seasons are a bit
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: at risk at this moment because they have not completed
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  Speaker 1: the CBA.
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  Speaker 3: The important point to gather from this point, this particular item,
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  Speaker 3: is that even if they reach an agreement, the minimum
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: salary would probably be in the fifty to sixty thousand range. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, this is all kind of like other people
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  Speaker 1: digging through and pulling stuff out, But the thing that
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: stood out to me was that there is an indicator
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  Speaker 1: that the amount of money that the Players Association is
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  Speaker 1: hoping to get for a minimum salary for a USL
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  Speaker 1: premier player as a starter is just a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more than half than what an MLS reserve player currently
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  Speaker 1: makes today.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the significant point.
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  Speaker 1: That's the market decater to me as to where we
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  Speaker 1: can start to begin to understand what this is going
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  Speaker 1: to look like when it begins to come.
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  Speaker 3: And the kind of top talent they're going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to draw.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. Okay, the second thing, and I didn't even know
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  Speaker 1: this about USL until recently, which is, you know a
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: lot of people love to pick on Major League Soccer
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: by claiming its clubs are affiliates or franchises and it's
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: this closed model of pay for play. Well, I'm here
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: to break the news that USL is essentially the exact
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: same thing. Teams are in USL because they pay an
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: expansion fee to get there. The expansion fees are as
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: much as twenty million dollars for the championship. It's five
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: million dollars for USL one, and it's a little less
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: than one hundred thousand for League two, and.
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  Speaker 3: That goes one hundred percent of it goes to the
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: private entity, for profit entity that is USL, and they
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: keep it all.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: So the difference between MLS and USL is that MLS
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: is a self sustaining structure designed to help protect and
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: foster and nurture all of the clubs financially through revenue sharing.
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  Speaker 1: USL has very little of that. USL revenue shares only
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: the money currently that they raise through advertising, sponsorships and
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  Speaker 1: TV deals. And when you break all that number down
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  Speaker 1: between the fifty percent that the league keeps and the
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: fifty percent they split up, it represents less than a
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: half million dollars for each and every club. Yeah, so
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: a couple of things here.
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  Speaker 3: One is that doesn't leave a lot of money for
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: the clubs, and they're relying solely on ticket sales and
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: it's and sponsorship. What league, successful professional sports league, any
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: sport in the world is successful without real television money.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: No where clubs can actually generate a decent MindUP income
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: to survive.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. And the assumption is USL will get some sort
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: of substantial TV deal at some point and revenue share it.
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  Speaker 1: And well, they revenue share that part, So the advertising,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: sponsorship and TV deal is part of the fifty percent
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  Speaker 1: revenue share they do. What they don't share are the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: expansion fees last year. As an example, you can take
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: the two teams they added to the Championship, and the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: four teams they added to League one represents about sixty
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: five million dollars of income for the USL, and none
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: of that, to the best of my understanding, got trickled
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  Speaker 1: down to the clubs. The clubs are one hundred percent
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: self reliant, well not one hundred percent, but essentially reliant
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: on their own profit and stability financially as an entity.
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  Speaker 3: And they and the player signings are one hundred percent
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: of their cost. Yes, so that this is significant. Again
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  Speaker 3: it is okay.
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  Speaker 1: So the third thing is an open question that I
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  Speaker 1: think they still have to spend some time defining, which
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  Speaker 1: is how are they going to populate this new Premier
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: League Because they stayed in the statement in the press release,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: they state that they intend to have eventually twenty teams
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: in the Premier League and twenty teams in the Championship,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: but they admit at launch either or both could be
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: as few as twelve. Now, how they're going to figure
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: out how they even if it's just the twelve teams
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: in the Premier League, where are those teams coming from?
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Are they twelve teams from the current Championship? Probably not.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a bunch of new
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: teams that don't even exist today that get announced that
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: will get promoted in there. But the other interesting question
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: is is it made up exclusively of teams willing to
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: pay the freight, the entry, the expansion fee to get
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  Speaker 1: in or will the champion, will the team that wins
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty seven USLC get promoted, or would we
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  Speaker 1: also have a scenario where a team that ends up
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  Speaker 1: in twelfth in twenty twenty seven USLC end up playing
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: in the Premier League the following year because they're willing
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: to pay the.
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  Speaker 3: Freight, right, Or you don't get promoted because you're not,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: or you're exactly do we really have promotion relegation if
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: all those things are in play?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's another interesting up. Yeah, they have to.
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  Speaker 1: So the next one, and this is really the one
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  Speaker 1: that I think is the most important and problematic, which
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: is the stadium issue. There are twenty four current USL
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Championship teams currently. Of the twenty four and this is
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: very important. Only four of the twenty four play in
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  Speaker 1: a stadium that meets US Soccer's minimum capacity requirements for
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: a Division one team and league. Every league in the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: world has minimum standards, the Bundesliga, La Liga, all of them,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: and all of them tend to be about fifteen thousand
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: and there's a reason for that. US Soccer also has this,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: so I assume, like everybody, US Soccer will give a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: series of exemptions and grace periods. But my question isn't
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: just about what happens in twenty eight, twenty nine to thirty,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: but as you get into the twenty thirties, what is
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: the reality of clubs currently to be able to build
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: either modify their existing structures, go out and build an
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: entire new stadium or move to another stadium in their
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: market that allows them to meet this require them at
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand steats. And I do think this becomes a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: more and more interesting question when you dig into the
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: fact you look at a team like Tulsa right now
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: that's playing in League One, Well, where's tall If Tulsa
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: it gets to be really good, how are they ever
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: going to be able to pay the money to build
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: a stadium as that's a requirement.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: Does that mean that a club like Tulsa will never
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: be able to get to the premiere the vision?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly? I mean, here's the crazy this is the most
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: extreme example of that. So we have Dallas for Earth
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: we've talked about, but in twenty twenty seven, there's a
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: new team coming to town to play in USL one
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: in Salina. Yes, they're called Rodeo sc.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Western Culture. There you go, Bam, they're playing.
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  Speaker 1: They're lined up to play in the brand new Salina
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: High School Stadium. What if that team is so good
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: it gets promoted to the Championship. What if it's so
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: good it gets promoted to the Premier League kind of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: like Wrexham. Okay, you begin to understand. Okay, And ultimately
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I think the most important part that needs to happen
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: is that I think that it is it is absolutely
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: required that both the league and the individual clubs develop
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: and communicate a clear narrative of expectation setting, because what
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: I think is what we're about to get is way
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: different than the difference between English Premier and English Championship.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be closer to what we're
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: currently seeing in the women's game in the United States
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: and the difference between the long standing NWSL and USL's
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: own new first tier women's league, the Super League, which
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Dallas Trinity plays.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good comparison. I think you're the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: best line here was Apathy is worse than disappointment or
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: criticism in a way, because apathy means that you're just
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: like you don't even care at least when you're gonna
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: criticize it. Yeah, there's some emotional and some care about it.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's really important that the league and the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: teams begin to communicate that they that fans, the rank
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: and file soccer fans in this country should not anticipate
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: that this premiere, this pyramid isn't going to be completely open.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: They're going to have guardrails in place with promotion and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: relegation to start off, to help protect teams, and the
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: level of play just isn't going to be the same.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: It is going to be different.
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  Speaker 3: And do they have internal expectations? Those are important.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's an interesting question. Those
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: are all things we have to find out. I want
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: this to succeed. I think this will be good for everybody,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: but I think there is a lot of heavy lifting
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: that both the clubs and the league have to do
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: to make this successful and make sure that people don't
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: walk into this thinking it's going to be something way
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: better than Major League soccer and find out that it's not,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: at least initially.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: Much more of the means THEAH than what was in
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: that glossy press release.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's early going, man, I mean you.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Know, I'm sure they've thought up a little bit.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I would hope, so, I would hope so we'll be
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: able to check it out. Athletico Dallas launches in like
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: eighteen months in the twenty twenty seven season, So we'll
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: get to Hotton Bowl near you, at the Cotton Bowl
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: near you. All Right, there we go. Thanks to Kambla
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Fata for doing tickers, EA for producing in Tremel for
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: running the board. I do believe we're back next week.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Pee Ones, thanks for listening. We love and adore you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: going out there, get stuck in and when your fifties