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Hour 1: The MLB Draft is over! Who were the Rebs & Dogs able to retain?.. Plus, Steve Deace joins the show. · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have a couple of guests on Today Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: This may sound weird, but when a big athletic director
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  Speaker 2: is going to get fired, Ward Manual's going to get
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  Speaker 2: fired at Michigan or it's uh, we're gonna have Steve
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  Speaker 2: dayson at Michigan podcast. He's actually been one of our
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  Speaker 2: for Michigan. It's it's a big brand. So we can
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  Speaker 2: talk about Ohio State, Michigan, and you know, Miami and
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  Speaker 2: Southern cal Oregon a couple others. But uh, you don't
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  Speaker 2: ever know who's going to take a spot, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's something that we want to hit.
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  Speaker 2: And somehow, through all their dysfunction, Michigan's been able to
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  Speaker 2: win a national championship in football and a national championship
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  Speaker 2: in basketball. Now Dusty May just left maybe he knew
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  Speaker 2: something now. He also had a good opportunity to go
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  Speaker 2: to Mavericks. I mean, I understand Michigan is a good,
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  Speaker 2: big school, big brand. But when the NBA calls, you're like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I'll let y'all handle everything. Just give me the put
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  Speaker 2: Now that's a little bit also, you don't know what
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  Speaker 2: front office is going to give you, but you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to worry about nil budget and all that. So
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a Yin yang deal. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: But for our listeners, Dusty May was there, successful basketball coach,
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  Speaker 2: and he just left to go to the NBA. And
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  Speaker 2: Harball just left go the NFL a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all know that, And they had to fire Sharon Moore.
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  Speaker 2: Last year they hired Kyle Whittingham from Utah. He had
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  Speaker 2: been at Utah since urban Meyer left Utah. Those two
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  Speaker 2: blow me away. Kyle Whittingham had just left Utah and
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  Speaker 2: had been there since urban Meyer left Utah to go
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  Speaker 2: to Florida, kind of like Mike Gundy had been at
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State since Les Miles left Oklahoma State to go
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  Speaker 2: to LA. That's a long time. That's crazy this day
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  Speaker 2: and age, no more of you know, Joe Paterno's, Bobby
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  Speaker 2: Bowden's guys that stay places. Gosh, thirty forty years plus.
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  Speaker 2: He's been there since I was late ten, yeah, or
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  Speaker 2: like twelve, yeah, something right around there. Right, absolutely. I
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  Speaker 2: mean so you know when Urban left to go to Florida. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean Kyle got bumped in one. He won the
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  Speaker 2: whole time out there. They were G five forever and
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  Speaker 2: then they got into the Pac twelve and now they're
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  Speaker 2: in the Big twelve. Yeah. Anyway, Whittingham's a hell of
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  Speaker 2: a coach. I think he'll I think he'll do well.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of unrest at Michigan now with
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  Speaker 2: the I guess the scandal and investigation that broke over
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  Speaker 2: the week. I think this has been going on for
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  Speaker 2: a while. But Ross Dellenser among others, ok It and
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  Speaker 2: Steve Dace at Michigan Podcast is going to come on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he's been really good over the years on
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  Speaker 2: hardball and co make. I mean, he's a big ten guy, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he just totally threw the Big ten under
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  Speaker 2: the bus when they got cued and pulled their season
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  Speaker 2: others that are getting great money. And you know we
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  Speaker 2: had others get get drafted too, So it's I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's can you imagine we all dream of that as
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  Speaker 2: a kid. When you play football, basketball, or baseball, you
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  Speaker 2: dream about wearing a pro jersey. You do whoever it is,
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs, Taylor Raide, Royals, you know, Ben Davis, Rockies,
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  Speaker 2: and the list goes on and on. So who was
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  Speaker 2: your team? Was it always Boston or was there somebody
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  Speaker 2: else when you were little Socks White Sox? No, it
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  Speaker 2: was Red Sox. Uh okay, yeah, just because of Manny
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  Speaker 2: straight Manny unbelievable, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was Indians for a couple of years, because
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  Speaker 2: because of Manny, Jim Tomey and Alamoar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I remember those teams. You know, in the mid nineties,
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  Speaker 2: they were battling the Braves and they'd battle well, the
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  Speaker 2: Yankees and other teams to get there. In fact, they
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  Speaker 2: may have squared off with the Mariners. When Griffy Junior
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  Speaker 2: and a Rod And and those cats were there. They
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  Speaker 2: they did. I don't think they went, but I think
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  Speaker 2: they made an ac Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they went to the World Series either. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: Griffy eventually went to the Reds. As you know, but yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: mine growing up Mmmm Cubs, then Braves, who was like
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  Speaker 2: a b I wasn't a Yankees fan. Red Sox was later.
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  Speaker 2: That was once uh Kurt Shilling got there, and then
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  Speaker 2: off spur from having one pair of shorts whenever I
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  Speaker 2: shorts man. My first Cleveland Indians is Eddie Murray. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he told about a day ago though I had his
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  Speaker 2: uh baseball cards? You switch hit that well? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: athletic department's been dysfunctional, but they win championships and so
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  Speaker 2: it's like people have still been able to celebrate even
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  Speaker 2: through them tripping all over themselves. You know, John Harball,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jim Harball, Johnson, New York. That would be
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  Speaker 2: Jim Harball national championship coach for the Michigan Wolverines. And
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  Speaker 2: then Dusty May with the title this year in hoops
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  Speaker 2: and he's with the Mavericks, right, So Harball moved on
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  Speaker 2: to the Chargers, Dusty May moved on to the Maps.
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  Speaker 2: But we've got a you know, an investigation into Sharon
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  Speaker 2: Moore who got fired last year at Michigan. Okay, and
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  Speaker 2: then they hired Kyle Whittingham. That kind of worked out
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  Speaker 2: for them because Sharon wasn't gonna work out anyway. And
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham is a legit, big time coach who did
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  Speaker 2: a great job at a place that's you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: not Alabama or LSU or Ohio State. And he won
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of games for years and years and years
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  Speaker 2: at Utah. Dealt Rosstellinger with Yahoo says he did confirm
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  Speaker 2: in his article here manuals this is Ward Manual athletic
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  Speaker 2: director at Michigan. Ward Manual's future is in doubt and
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  Speaker 2: that a board meeting schedule for Thursday when that happened,
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  Speaker 2: is just a matter of how they're going negotiate it
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  Speaker 2: all out. You know, it looks like he's got a
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  Speaker 2: severance package. I think he could retire without being fired
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  Speaker 2: and probably get the thirty six month severance package, or
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  Speaker 2: they'll say we're not gonna pay you that much, we'll
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  Speaker 2: pay you some of it. I think it's two million
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  Speaker 2: a year or two million plus from what I read
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  Speaker 2: last night. I think that was CBS Sports. I'll have
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  Speaker 2: to go back and look here in a minute, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so there there's some back and
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  Speaker 2: forth here as to how this could play out with
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  Speaker 2: the Michigan Wolverines Ward Manual afletic director or maybe not
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  Speaker 2: even be anymore. But doesn't look like long. And was
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  Speaker 2: there a cover up? Is what people are asking because
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  Speaker 2: Sharon Moore was fooling around, and you know, now it's
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  Speaker 2: worth noting Michigan reportedly paid twelve million dollars for this
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  Speaker 2: investigation to the Chicago Law firm of Jenner and Block.
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  Speaker 2: So back in December, they conducted an open ended review
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  Speaker 2: of their athletics department the wake of Sharon Moore firing,
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  Speaker 2: slash arrests. And that review is now done and it
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  Speaker 2: looks like Ward Manual didn't do something right and boom.
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  Speaker 2: So that'll be one of the bigger jobs. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the top ten job in the country. They're huge, I
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  Speaker 2: mean the Monster alumni. But y'all know the Drill Monster
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  Speaker 2: alumni base, plenty of money all that stuff. So in
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten, there's two money conferences. We have two
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  Speaker 2: power super leagues. People talk about super leagues. I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: we already have two super leagues. It's called the SEC
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  Speaker 2: and the Big Ten. We have two super leagues. And
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  Speaker 2: but anyway, someone man's gonna make a mistake and get
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  Speaker 2: paid multiple bill If there's not an out then then
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  Speaker 2: he will. Nowadays, I think we'll have a lot more
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  Speaker 2: Steve Days, Michigan Insider will have a lot more to
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  Speaker 2: offer in about well. In the next segment, just Ross
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  Speaker 2: by York and his way to the top baby failing upwards. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean Ross Bjork is at Ohio State. That's arguably
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  Speaker 2: the best job in the country. And that's incredible considering
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  Speaker 2: Ole miss and really, what do you do it? A
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  Speaker 2: and M. But but hey, give him credit. He's making
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  Speaker 2: two million dollars a year running an athletic department that
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  Speaker 2: is that is on cruise control. Because that's a beast too.
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  Speaker 2: And there, remember I referenced Ohio State in LSU and Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: They're the only game in town in their state. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: other than pro sports that didn't get any account the
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  Speaker 2: Reds and the Browns and they're still the only one. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're the winner. Sure, I know the Cavs
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  Speaker 2: turn it around a little bit so on, but you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, the Reds have decided to poop
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  Speaker 2: They like drafting in the top five best part of
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  Speaker 2: me for saying that they don't like winning. It's like
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi State football, they don't like winning. You know, Let's
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  Speaker 2: to make big time plays for the Pittsburgh Pirates, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: that is good to see. But go with the home
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: team farm Bureau Insurance. Bundle your auto and home and
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: save with your local farm Bureau insurance agent. Let me
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: go over the players that were drafted. We got it
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: all right. We will switch gears. We're gonna talk a
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: little Michigan Wolverine Athletic Department, and we're gonna welcome in
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Steve Dace at Michigan Podcast. He's joined us several times
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: over the years. Certain things going on, and Steve Das,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: you're plugged into Michigan for a while. Now, did you
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: see Athletic Director Ward Manuals Auster coming or did this
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: catch you off guard?
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't catch me off guard at all. I thought
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: it was fifty to fifty and it was going to
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: be pretty much tied to whether the Page Shriver report
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: was going to come out or not, the Athletic director
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: investigation or the athletic department investigation that was initiated back
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: in January, which Ward helped himself to initiate, by the way.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: But I figured it was going to be tied to
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: whether that report bo ever came out or not, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: kind of you know, it's just it's very interesting to
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: watch universities consider themselves paragons of progressive virtue, like the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: University of no Again, it's very interesting to watch them
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: operate because, you know, we had a former president here,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Mark Schlissel, who tried to use every ounce of power
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: he had to shut down the twenty twenty college football
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: season during COVID to demonstrate as a medical professional, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: his virtue and concern for the student athletes. At the
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: same time, he was carrying on an ilsted affair with
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: a supportin at the university and eventually lost his job.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Something that's kind of page one in the Manuel at
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: the university. And it'll do the it will always do
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the right thing once it is eventually forced to. And
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: that's kind of been how it's operated now for a
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: couple of decades on multiple fronts. It's really been sadly
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: how things have operated kind of pretty much since bo
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: died in two thousand and six. Wow, And I and
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I think that that's a couple of decades now, you know.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And so I think it was going to come down
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: to this report. If the report was going to be
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: forced out, then I thought Ward would be forced out.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: If they could bury the report, then he could probably
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: survive a little bit longer. She's going to force the
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: report out. She's got a foil lawsuit going on against
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: the university. Michigan loses. These foil lossters like all the time,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: they always try to bury stuff like this, and this
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: time it's going to come out. And I think that
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: you're seeing an embattled group board of regents in the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: state now trying to get ahead of it. And they're
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: negotiating a buyout, which essentially are probably the terms of
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Ward's NDA. We're being honest and let's just all move on.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: So Steve Days, Michigan Insider on the Farm Bureau Insurance
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: guest line. They fired Sharon More last year through all
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: of those you know, indiscretions, and then they hired Kyle Whittingham,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and as Steve Days said, they signed on and block.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: A law firm out of Chicago paid twelve million to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: do this open investigation of the athletic Department and evidently
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Ward manual did X, Y and Z wrong. Do you
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: believe that he will I saw the thirty six month
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: buy out. Do you believe that he will receive his
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: buy out? Or there's enough in the report investigation to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: get Michigan off the hook of whatever that is, two
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: million plus a year.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I think that Ward. I think Ward will be given
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: ample compensation for both the momentous success that Michigan had
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: at times in all kinds of sports. I think every
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: sport at Michigan's won a Big Ten championship or thereabouts
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: since he came on board. I think he'll be given
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: financial recognition. I'll put it for the success that's been
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: demonstrated on the field of play, and also for his
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: ongoing assistance and not being a material witness I think
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: is likely going to happen.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So I wish, you know, for Michigan
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: to be you just said it, for Michigan to be
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: as dysfunctional as they are at times, both academically and athletically,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and a powerhouse at the same time. And yet when
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: national titles in sports that matter like hardball and football
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and Dusty May in basketball. I mean, that's what's incredible
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to me, Steve. Does that surprise you considering everything you know?
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean it does, But is it really incredible to you?
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: But Bo, you're in the sec You guys have done
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: this all our lives, you know, I mean, you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: so I think what's different is you guys are just
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: more honest, all right. And there's no there's no virtue
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: signaling in your neck of the woods about this, and
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: there's at least some honor among fees. I guess I'll
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: put it, you know, a prison code up here. I
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: think that what's what makes this really much more unlikable
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: when the school like Michigan does it, frankly, is again
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: they want to parade around progressive virtue and then at
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: the same time they then want to maybe go right
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: up to you know, not up to quite the line
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: that you know, an Alabama would have gone to, you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: or in the eighties and nineties or a myriad of
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: SEC programs, and then claim, okay, because we didn't go
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: over that line with how much better a people we are,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and and and and and and that's just that's it's
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: a croc. And what's what's sad about it is number one,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: the there's just an immense amount of high quality student
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: athletes that come out of the Michigan programs, you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: which you're what You're not gonna find it. There's been
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: so many problems surrounding that twenty twenty three football team,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: none of them really involved any of the players, they're
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: almost all upstanding guys. They're almost all very likable guys.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, Blake Koram Is, you know, his nickname could
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: be son in law. Like every father in America wants
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: their daughter to bring Blake koram home for a husband. Okay,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: you know for a bow and a lot of the
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: hits that Michigan has taken are for guys like Matt Weiss,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: how he passed any betting process to be a total creeper,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and yet he wasn't good at his job, you know.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, if a Penn State's gould to look the
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: other way at Jerry Sandusky for decades, Jerry Sandusky was
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: once one of the best defensive coordinators in college football.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Michigan's doing this for guys like LaTroy Lewis, who gets
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: found out after he leaves to go join the Atlanta Falcons.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: For Matt Weiss, who even players on the team thought
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: was odd and weird and offered nothing and no idea
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: where he came from or what he was doing. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: they actually had a better offense after he got busted
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and had his title taken away from him. You know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: it was very clear watching the product on the field
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: last year they were going to go nine to three
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: just because they were that much physically more talented than
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: nine opponents. When they played three teams that could punch back,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: they completely fell apart. And yet Sharon Moore would still
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: be the coach here right now if Page had not
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: come forward, which is got to blow your mind. Okay,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: And so one thing about Michigan is Michigan is great
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: at producing greatness and great for taking hits to its
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: reputation for people who frankly just aren't worth it. And
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: it's been Juwan Howard. How many times was he permitted
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: to act out while we're going like seventeen and fourteen
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: in the regular season? Why why? It's really just truly,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: it's just truly mystifying. And it makes you kind of
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: think that if they ever actually took maybe some of
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: their own talking points more seriously about being leaders and
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: best and demanding their autocracy and high performance and integrity
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: along with those resources. I mean, you noted, how with
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: how good we do and we're not doing that much
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: better would be if we actually did so, Yes.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Steve Dace, Michigan Insider, Uh, they're going to fire their
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: athletic director this week, and they fired their football coach
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: last year who was involved in a scandal. Now, the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: interesting thing part of this is they upgraded massively. Kyle
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Whittingham can flat out coach uh. I mean, he did
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: an incredible job at Utah, which is not Michigan or
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Georgia or so on, and they're still Michigan. They trip
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: over really good coaches. I mean, Dusty May just left
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: for the Mavericks have to winning a national title. So dysfunctional,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: yet still always going to bring in talented players because
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: of the brand in the massive alumni based Steve Das
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: on the Farm Bureau Insurance guest line. So, how did
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you just kind of walked us through a couple of
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: things with the Michigan football program. How is somebody who
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: loves the Michigan Wolverines. How do you look at Jim
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Harball after his tenure in Michigan and everything that he
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: gave y'all, that was great, but then some of the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: turmoil and scandals.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing I would say about Jim and I
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: could care less about Burgergate or any o. The rest
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: of that. I just don't care, and neither does anybody else.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that stuff was blown
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: out of proportion because Jim was the most high profile
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: person messaging things about we need to create a transfer
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: portal player compensation at the time that the NCA was
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: in its death rows trying to fight that stuff. And
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I just think the NCA largely detested him. But what
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I would fallt Jim for and I think that this
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: was done wrong in the Connor Stallion's affair also is
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: instead of saying things like I don't recall if I
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: bought those kids a burger after the Wisconsin game when
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: they came up here for on that when they can
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: when them and their families came up here to show
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: support for me when I was very in battled and
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: there was talks about getting rid of me during the
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: COVID season, I don't recall if I bought them a
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: burger at breakfast at at one of the m spots
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: the next day, what I fault him for, because that's
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the kind of stuff. You know, I don't be a
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: very provocative leader. And then when when the system comes
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: back at you for trying to confront it, then try to,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: you know, use some political legalies. Okay, When I when
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I would have would have been very fascinating and should
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: it would have been way more preferable, is if Chim
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: would have just simply said, hell, yeah, okay, you guys
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: won't do anything to police all these under the table.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: As for years, I got to find I got to
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I've got to figure out what I could possibly do
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: right to recruit when I've got Clemson calling Rashaun gary
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Go' signing day just as he's about to go on
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: ESPN to announce his commitment and offered him four hundred
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: grand all right to to you know, to sign to
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: switch his commitment five minutes after two years of recruiting.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe goes down the drain. You bet your ass. I'm
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: trying to find every last advantage I can because you
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: guys don't enforce your own rules, so I don't owe
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you Jack Squatt. In other words, my point is there
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: were opportunities here to own the moment. I thought that,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I thought that the condor Stallion's case should have never
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: ever been argued on any grounds other than what rule
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: here was actually broken? What rule? It's not against the
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: rules to steal signs? And yet this whole thing is
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: called a sign stealing scandal, So what was the rule.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Oh well, people went there in person. So in other words,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: people walk into a stadium in a public event utilizing device.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Is that everyone in the stadium currently has. That's your
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: big scandal. You're so now everybody that sits in there
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: with a phone and put and puts any amount of
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: film that they just up on a Twitter feed or
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: a website, which a million people do every week, that's
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: now an NCAA violation. I mean, my point being is
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: there was there were moments here to call to mister
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Smith goes to Washington, the system and Michigan. Michigan failed
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: to do that every single time, and then and and
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: and and tried to hide behind like legal ease and
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: get cute with it and find you know, you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: a fanciful attempts to you know, uh uh, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: to put massagic and then ended up just harming its
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: own integrity in those situations all the more when I
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: thought what they should have done is actually challenge the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: merits of the system in and of itself, and I
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: thought they would have become I think, you know, in
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: many more respects more full hero okay than than scandal.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: But they didn't do that, And maybe now we're learning.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: One of the reasons that they didn't do that that
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: there were other things happening under the under the under
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: our noses we didn't know about, like what was really
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: going on in Sharon Moore's private life and things of
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: that nature. Right, And so you know, I work in
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: politics full time, and I can just tell everybody in
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: your audience when a politician, I don't sure what party
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: they're from, when there's an obvious principled play to make,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: and they won't make it, I can promise you it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: ninety nine percent because there's something else going on in
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: their lives and they're in their campaigns that they don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: want to come out, and so they don't think they
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: have the moral standing to do this. So they're trying
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: rather than being exposed somewhere else, and so they're attempting
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: to find to be cute in a way that obviously
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: isn't going to be successful. And I think ultimately that's
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: what happened here at Michigan is there were it's not
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: the stuff upfront conor Burger Gate that you know shows
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: like yours around the country talk about. That was that
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: was essentially the undoing of a reputation here but it's
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: the stuff that came out later, like about Sharon Moore,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: that was really the real In Matt Weiss, those things
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: were the real problems and the real reasons why they
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: didn't take a more forthright stance against those things, those
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: other things than in the grand scheme of things. All right,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: whether it's stealing signs or paying burgers to a kid
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: for buying burgers for a kid at breakfast the morning
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: after an illicit recruiting trip, that stuff doesn't do, isn't
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean Jack Squatt, but it became quite meaningful
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: because of the stuff we found out later was actually
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: going on underneath the surface.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, And so Michigan will make a new hire. It's
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: one of the it's a top ten job in the
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: country and things, and you do have a better football
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: coach and things will march on the.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Perfect time to do this now. But we have a
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: grown man, an adult. He can essentially be the associate
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: ad in charge of football for the next you know,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: twelve to twenty four months, so Michigan can find the
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: new president, the new ad. You have a basketball coach
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: who has really no contract at all, and an extremely
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: talented roster still This has got to be a top
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: ten starting five in college basketball next season. The entire
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: roster that Dusty recruited is intact, so you know you'll
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: get he'll get a chance to prove himself. I mean,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: if he can't at least get to the second weekend
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: to the nca Tournament and a top four double by
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: finish in the Big Ten with this roster, then he's
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Mike Boyton who failed at Oklahoma State. And you just
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: move on very quickly and it's painless and doesn't cost
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: you anything. So this is really kind of the ideal
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: time to reassess your athletic department, fumigate the last remaining places,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: and bring in your new general. I mean, Michigan will
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: fail up here, just like what happened with Sharon Moore.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: That's going to end up being the most successful sex
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: scandal in the history of American enterprise. I mean, we
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: upgraded from Sharon Moore to a guy bounce to the
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame with a major chip on his shoulder,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: and we're going to really upgrade here at athletic director too.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: So it is amazing. Sometimes Michigan will still manage to
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: fail out.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Incredible. Steve Dace at Michigan Podcast on Twitter. Michigan Insider
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: on the Out of Bounds Show. Steve, thanks so much, man.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Hope you're having a good summer. We'll talk soon.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: You got a brother, God bless he's awesome.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Steve Dace, Michigan Insider on the Out of Bound Show.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Michigan will fire their athletic director if they haven't already
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: this week after a twelve million dollar investigation into their
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: athletic department by law firm in Chicago because of what
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: happened last year with the Sharon Moore paid Shivers scandal
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and then eventual lawsuit from paid Shivers. Okay, and so
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Sharon Moore is gone. You all know that, Not that
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you ever really got to know him. He was only
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: there for five minutes. Harball left to go the Chargers.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: They promoted from within. He wasn't ready, Plus he had
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: all this stuff going on. Now. Dace does make a
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: good point about failing up on this thing. They just
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: brought in a Hall of Fame coach and a guy
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: named Kyle Whittingham from Utah who has been witting at
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Utah since urban Meyer left Utah to go to Florida.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I mean He's just a dude, big, big trench play guy.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Y'all know when you did watch Utah, some of you never,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: some of you occasionally, but they were I mean, physical, sound,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, offensive line. You had a lot of
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: sec right mojo and blood in their program. I mean
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: he believed in physicality and and kicking your you know
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: what and all that stuff. So I think, I mean,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Michigan's always going to be the number two recruiter in
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: the Big ten majority of the time. Every now and
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: then maybe the number one now and then maybe the
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: number three, depending on what Penn State's doing. But right
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna be in the top one percent of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: football recruiting every year. They can knock down a number
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: four or number eight class in with their eyes closed,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and they've got more money than God. So and they
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: won with all that dysfunction and you know, the driven
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: by progressive virtues and all that stuff because of who
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: they are. And Harball is one of the best ever
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: coach college football. I mean he won at San Diego,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: not San Diego State. Harball won at San Diego. They
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: had no scholarships. He went to Stanford. They were awful.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: The twenty years prior to his arrival. He won. Now
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: they're awful again. You see the tie. He goes to Michigan.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: They can never get over the hump in the modern
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: day Okay, I throw out the ninety seven thing. They
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: can never get over the hump in modern day football.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: And then he beats Ohio State three times in a row,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: one time where he wasn't the coach because of nonsense stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was the Connor Stallion stuff, or maybe
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: it was Burger Gate, I don't remember which one where
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  Speaker 2: he got held. Remember he got held early in the
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: year for two games, and then he got held late
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  Speaker 2: in the year. Anyway, they went on to go undefeated
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  Speaker 2: and win the national championship. So a little bit of
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: dysfunction in ann Arbor, ann Arbor. We'll see where it leads.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: We'll get back into Mississippi State Old Miss Steve Robertson
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: will join us at nine thirty late in the show
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: last segment. He'll join us on the Farm Bureau Insurance
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: guest line. I'm your host bo Bounds on the out
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  Speaker 2: of Bounds ship.