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Hollywood Cripple: Black Panther & Mark Hamill Walk of Fame Star · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I heard some very disturbing news this week something I cannot actually even
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  believe it sounds very serious yeah welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy did you know Mark Hamill didn't
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  have a star oh on the Hollywood Walk of Fame yeah this baffles me really on the
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  Hollywood Walk of Fame the most important figures ever to be there and
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  the ones I can remember first were R2-D2 c3pio and Darth Vader putting their like
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  hands in concrete yeah I've just always assumed that
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  everyone from Star Wars was there somewhere if the metal people got one
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  surely the human people have already got one exactly this may shock You Luke Mark
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  Hamill's actually technically not that famous and also often is not considered
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  to be a very good actor I'll build on that Matt by pointing out that he's not really even
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  in much I mean he's really only in one movie well um in Jay and Silent Bob
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  Strike Back he does a cameo in that and they actually had to throw up in writing
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  hey kids it's Mark Hill cuz people didn't recognize him at test screenings
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  right so it I mean it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't have also
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  anyone can have one you've just got to pay for it yeah yeah that's the Dirty
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  Little Secret of it yeah so obviously somebody uh somebody in the Star Wars
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  Camp decided way back in the day that uh they'll buy three of them one for R2D2
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  C3 Po and one for Darth they would have spent a lot of money on those ones
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  because they're like pretty sure Harrison Ford probably got one at one
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  stage I saw well that's the thing he used to make jokes that he already had
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  one when he was making Star Wars because there's an actor from the 30s called
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  Harrison thought Ford that's what I was going to say there's someone someone
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  called Harrison Ford's got one I don't know if it's him though so I don't know
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  if he has his own like I don't know if does he have a real one or not there's
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  only a couple thousand of them like not everybody gets thousand no no no but
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  that's there's so many actors like cuz we go through celebrities a
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  lot um Harrison Ford does have one and he didn't get it till 2003
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  right yeah because you've got a if you want one I'll share this picture with
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  you uh of the inauguration because it looks like with us not the listeners how
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  can I share a picture with the listeners all right listeners everyone
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  send me your WhatsApp details I'm about to message you a picture you're going to
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  regret that look uh just look down under segments I've just posted in this
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  picture of what I can only assume is Harrison Ford and Ste Steven Spielberg
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  about to passionately kiss that's really what it looks like
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  well it looks like Harrison's about to go for the kiss I don't think Stephen's
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  up for St [ __ ] homophobe not in front of the camera is Harris he's what what
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  are you doing he's like just go with it you know you want
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  it but yeah if you're one of these Stars apparently you got to pay for it but
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  then not only that you've got to make a good case because they only give out a
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  certain number of them every year or something so you've got to kind of got
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  petition it basically yeah almost like running for office you've got to make a
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  good case for yourself well it's it's like when you want an Academy Award
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  nomination they don't just nominate people out of the blue you've got to
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  apply and you've got to do an awards campaign right spend a lot of money and
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  convince them that you deserve one I think they should also be every year
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  they decide whether or not they keep some and they should just start getting
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  rid of them as well that's your you think that about everything y they're
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  just chiseling off Charlie Chaplain cuz they're like [ __ ] it's been years since
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  he put out a movie yeah we did a we did a in-house as in in my house screening
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  of the room on Frid in house fing mat now calling movies e watches at home and
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  in-house screening we had a bunch of people around and we watched the room most of
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  them had never seen it before so there was a little bit of explanation required
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  listeners if you don't know what the room is uh look into it and if you're in
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  Sydney go see it at the Orum bit of room trivia in in order to be considered for
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  an Academy Award a film's got to be in theaters for like it 4 weeks or
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  something like that or 6 weeks um okay so something like that
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  there's a period of time that it must be in theaters and so uh Tommy waso the you
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  know the creator of the room paid a theater to just keep showing it for the
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  the required amount of time so that he could submit it and obviously he did not
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  receive an Academy Award
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  wow he he's not right the funny thing is
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  though playing for about a decade now right yeah yeah it may well be the
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  longest running like it sells out it when we went to uh a screening in London
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  and Tommy and Greg were there and it sold out and we had to line up down the
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  street to get in but that would be more so because of the signing one
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  and the appear movie sing apparently this happens all the time I mean you've
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  you've been uh down to the AUM screenings with us right it sells out
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  absolutely like they weren't there full house it's just it's just fun like yeah
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  and it wasn't like it was a oneoff screening they do it every Friday night
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  yeah it makes a lot of money the room yeah it's [ __ ] hilarious but he
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  already had money didn't he he did yeah that's how he did this yes he could just
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  pay people to do whatever he wanted yes how do I get money like that there's
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  some speculation in Greg's book about how he got the money but no one really
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  knows how he got it he does own a lot of real estate at Fisherman's Warf in San
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  Francisco that's how presumably how he keeps getting money other than but how he got that
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  property well don't know cuz he W he doesn't tell anyone anything if you ask
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  him where he's from he says America even though he sounds like he's clearly from
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  Eastern Europe but he says he's from uh
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  Louisiana he's not so just to jump back in the reason that we're talking about
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  Mark Hamill at all and the reason we're talking about him not having a star on
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  the Walk of Fame is because he now has one oh yeah he getting one is he got it
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  or he's getting one I don't think we actually did he's getting it on March 8th so
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  right so I'll be there for that will you
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  I wish oh you should should go and show your
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  support yeah what it's a bit late notice it's a bit far to go and then pop over
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  here to the other side of the country yeah like it's what I'd have to
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  organize it all and be there within a week oh no just over a week and a half
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  it's doable I'll ask Hannah cuz she would have to pay for it
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  right right more importantly because you're not allowed to have any of your
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  own money because you spend it Ono can't be trust how much actually can the
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  podcast pay for it we could put and uh no Matt Matt I'll allow with
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  this I think that you know if the patreon you know if the listeners want
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  to send Luke to Hollywood then they've just got to put their money where their
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  mouth is oh yeah in that sense in that case yes absolutely so everyone has to
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  do it very quickly though as it stands absolutely not but if that the situation
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  on the patreon or if you want to make a PayPal donation podcast at multip
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  nasm.com L to go to the uh creation of
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  mar hamel's star in the Walk of Fame go ahead probably won't be the creation of
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  it it'll probably just be them taking the teail off it and revealing it $2,000
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  I think would do it $2,000 yeah yeah that'll get you uh that'll get you there
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  and then here probably well I'm also thinking of commodation while I'm there
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  as well need combination here mate we got a very big bed and you can share it
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  I'm just I'm just I'm checking flights now I want to get there we've got his
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  hopes up I'll say I'll leave on the Tuesday we've got his hopes up now and
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  I'll come back on I'll I'll be say I'll come back on the
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  Friday all right search flights let's see how
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  much I reckon I can get a flight for about a thousand why am I in pounds
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  pounds doesn't help me I bet hey Luke in your head if you if
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  you did go you think it's going to be Mark Hamill a few of his close friends
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  than you is that yeah that's what I'm thinking too Luke's gonna Mark's gonna
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  be like oh okay there's uh someone here to support me yeah mate you going you
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  know I like
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  Mark um okay so T plane tickets would be
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  about $1,500 return yeah that's just to
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  get to La M mhm mhm is very
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  expensive so if we can get 2,000 I can yeah that should do me that's and I'll
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  stay somewhere really cheap for a few days oh just crash with
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  Mark I'm having fun with
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  Mark don't tell me you wouldn't like to just hang out for a weekend with Mark
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  yeah I mean look a former member of this podcast hung out with him for several
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  weeks back in the 80s that's true
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  that's very true while the dark days while we've got we've got some Star Wars
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  news I did not enjoy that stuff no that was a segment that will not be missed I
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  think even by the I'll say this the first episode of that segment was fine
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  oh yeah but uh beyond that it was uh it was just uh I mean when I say we won't
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  be missed I just mean from a legal perspective it's it's like of all the
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  things to worry about liable yeah all the things we've said on
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  this podcast I think that was that's top tier [ __ ] if there's a line and we
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  don't know what side we're on that's going to be the
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  Benchmark um so I joined up for a new social media thingy
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  right I'm trying to really cut down social media thingies I'm on I'll be
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  honest yeah well this is the one that everyone
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  on Instagram that I follow was going I've started this account go follow me
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  here yeah that's how I saw it too I was and then enough people were doing it
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  that I was like is this one of those things where if I don't get on it I'm
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  not going to get the brain fed name which is a requirement for me all right
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  tell me what this [ __ ] thing is then and I'll check it out what is it
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  Vero it's another Vero that's how I'm saying it that's how I say it v e r
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  Vero ver I say Vero it's fine um I can't actually work out how to
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  get my Pi profile on it but I have changed my name to [ __ ] 4 ver makes
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  sharing online more like real life
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  well I don't know fellas I I evidently you can do you can
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  share music M TVs books pictures I don't know how to share anything it looks nice
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  I don't sharing this with who are you going to share with what books you
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  read well I'd have to read a book STS we already have a podcast where we kind of
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  share what we're doing and what we like and and what we're watching
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  so that's the thing I feel like my my
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  social stuff happens here like my social media stuff I I have a maybe this is an
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  opportunity to come clean though like if if this is going to say replace Facebook
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  then maybe I'll start one of these and I'll only add you you guys and my
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  friends you know and that's it and not have a bunch of people I used to work
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  with that's pretty much our WhatsApp and Snapchat yeah so I'm not really sure why
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  I would need this yeah but didn't you hear Snapchat we already do that
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  Snapchat's dead didn't you hear yes someone told me it's dead but
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  not according to Snapchat no they what's it one of the one of the
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  Kardashians uh said that Snapchat was dead and it uh caused a massive stink
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  because the the people freaked out and started sing selling their their stock yeah their
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  shares and then the like the share price plummeted and it actually had a massive
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  effect on the business and they were like well this shouldn't be a thing
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  that's possible just because some dumb celebrity said something this is why I
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  hate the stock market that's why that's what you took away from kardian you hate
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  the St stock market yeah y That's why I hate
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  Bitcoin I'll stop you there Luke we have a whole jingle dedicated to you and the stock
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  [Music]
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  market so at some point when did we ever have that I don't remember I just
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  remember that it exists never been for the stock market I don't
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  think oh who
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  knows so Vero check it out I guess no don't check it out and uh just so you
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  guys know I'm not going to be on there so don't bother looking for me if
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  someone could tell me how to use it that would be
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  great podcast at multiple nasm.com or uh
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  Luke multiple nasm.com or is it [ __ ] as well probably I can't remember what
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  Alias is I set up for you no we're just we're just Luke but what don't give out
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  those ones I used those that email don't give out those on like it's a [ __ ] it's
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  going to take a [ __ ] genius to figure that
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  out I us that email
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  so I don't want dick pic sent to that email all right where do you want the
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  dick P sent yeah Snapchat [ __ ] 4 4 Snapchat's dead we just we just talked
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  about this Luke add Luke on Vero send him dick pic
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  yes I might be [ __ ] 4 on Vero now I'm not sure
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  it let me change my name so you're good at this computer stuff aren't you oh it
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  finally let me change my picture it has been uh it's been flaky
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  I've noticed I think just because they had a massive influx of people because
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  it seems to have hit critical mass because everyone on as you said everyone
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  on Instagram and everywhere else is like oh I signed up for this thing and so now
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  I think everybody's it's still yeah it's still in beta I've never heard of this I
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  I hadn't heard of it until the other day and then I noticed like at least more
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  and more people are just saying like I've created one like five people on the
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  same day were like oh I signed up for this thing and I was like I guess I
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  better see what it is no I'm interested just because I I
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  really don't like Facebook or Twitter I like Instagram you think this
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  might be different but Instagram is Facebook it's the same company yeah what
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  I'm what I'm worried about is a lot of people I follow on Instagram are making
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  these accounts and I am if they do move over to that I still want to be able to
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  see what they're posting yeah and I think a big part of it the
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  reason why people going cuz people hate that algorithm on Instagram that yes
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  shows all the photos out of order if we're moving over to this thing
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  I'll move over but I'm not happy about it it's fair well I don't know yet I've
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  I've created an account but I not done anything on it but I don't really do
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  anything on any other social media so I don't I don't know that you can have
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  like a business account or anything like that or in this case a podcast account
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  so we don't have a multiple nasm one uh yeah I don't know they haven't got
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  anything like that so it's just going to I'll create one later yeah
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  exactly we my at multiple email whatever it is the mysterious
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  [ __ ] email address we won't read out Luke has by the way mine is Dan at
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  multiple nerm that's yours my is Matt at multipl nerd gm.com you'll never figure
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  out what Luke's email address at multip nerd gm.com
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  is no we keep I'm keeping that a secret
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  all right well yeah I have to make you a new one
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  now you will uh I like my I need a
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  [ __ ] 4 One at G oh [ __ ] well done oh
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  everyone knows I'm crial 4 everywhere worried about LC at podcast Luke at mod
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  no I'm give about [ __ ] 4 Luke at podcast I like that L podcast don't
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  email me
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  yeah so I'm tired I've been up since 4
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  Star Wars Episode 9 mhm has an art
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  director that I'm excited about mhm it
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  also has a script that I'm
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  cautiously scared about look I've uh I've seen the script and I think uh I
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  was You' seen I was optimistic uh just by noticing that it wasn't written in
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  lead pencil on a yellow notepad so with a bunch of books on how to write a
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  script in the background that's a reference to the
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  prequel trilogy behind the scenes yeah
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  um so yeah look I'm glad JJ back find very strange that they've only just
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  written the script to me it's be something that
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  would have been worked out for a while now I'm sure they had the story figured
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  out yeah except that after the [ __ ] backlash from The Last Jedi I'm not
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  surprised that they went back to the drawing board
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  so oh guys I'm really struggling with something at the moment and
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  I I Matt I know you are too Luke I'm not even sure where you come down on this
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  because you've you've gone Rogue but I I don't think I like Star Wars
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  anymore yeah and I I decided we we talked a little bit on this podcast a
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  few weeks ago about how people are doing the ultimate Star Wars marathon which is
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  you watch the prequels in order um pausing between 2 and 3 to watch the
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  entire of the Clone Wars TV series Fu hell and uh then you continue on you
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  watch the the in between films I decided I was going to do that because I was
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  envious of these people that grew up during the prequel period and therefore
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  didn't have any kind of [ __ ] hatred for them and just accepted them as Star
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  Wars movies and had all this peripheral material like the like the series and so
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  I decided [ __ ] it I'm going to do it right mhm so last weekend I had some
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  time on my hands and I downloaded everything and I started watching how
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  far did you make it I got 10 minutes into the phantom menace
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  Luke this movie is unwatchable and and I think in my head I keep I keep
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  misremembering enough to think look it's it's not very good but it's okay it's
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  not [ __ ] okay it's [ __ ] termal
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  that's a very bad also level terribly it really has and so I didn't get through
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  that and then I didn't want to watch the second one because [ __ ] it it's in my
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  opinion it's even worse because it tries harder to be good and it's just as [ __ ]
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  so I've got no and so I I I okay fine I'll go for the Clone Wars TV series I
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  watched the first episode I mean guys I it's it's a kids cartoon series do you
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  know what I mean like like I don't know what I was expecting but I I think I was
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  expecting something with way more depth in it than it has right yeah and uh
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  actually even have to watch every single episode you can drop in and out the fact
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  that you can do that means like why am I watching this yeah also cartoons have
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  changed since we were kids they're [ __ ] kinetic now like there's just so
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  much [ __ ] happening on screen at the same time so dense [ __ ] man I couldn't
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  do it and uh so then I thought okay well I'll just I'll skip straight into uh
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  episode three then M and uh then I realized I had literally no
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  interest in watching that movie and then I thought about it and I thought about
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  how many Star Wars movies there are and the fact that I only like four of them
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  MH like four out of like 12 is not a
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  good average no it's
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  not so well that's I like more than that
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  I like Wars prequels I agree with you your prequels are a
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  should not exist the original trilogy yes Rogue Squadron
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  yes um the two Ewok movies yes [ __ ] off I love those movies no you don't [ __ ]
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  you you don't no you don't they're garbage no I love them if you love the
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  first one I will I will give it to you that okay maybe first one is a good one
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  the second one the you no way you love the not as good mate it's [ __ ] un
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  [Laughter] they kill everyone off it's I don't even
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  remember the first one is a good movie Caravan of Courage that that I do
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  rate I do remember that that's one with the big monster the big big guy yeah I
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  remember that from when I was a kid I don't try to make out that Endor isn't
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  just the forest Moon well it is but yeah but they go through a
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  desert well multiple that is not on that's why it got that's
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  why it got removed yeah everyone was like I don't understand how can a planet possibly
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  have more than one terrain and then of course the force awakens I did like the
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  last shedi I'm still I still haven't I still haven't watched it again I'm not
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  going to watch it again I'm not going to do it I have no interest I want to watch
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  an a an edited version where there's no Casino where there's no
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  women well you're a luck Le cuz [ __ ] W made
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  it such a [ __ ] weird thing to do know
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  no casino and priser dies don't just want the women edited
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  out you want them killed I want a version where they all
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  get [ __ ] raped and burned
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  Jesus but have you heard the next TR C I
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  think is you to come out and start next year
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  look episode 9 it's got some something I'm optimistic about it's going to look
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  pretty I think because JJ Abrams knows how to make it look like Star Wars and
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  it's got the art director from uh Blade Runner 2049 which was [ __ ]
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  beautiful so I I'm optimistic about that aspect of it I'm not optimistic about
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  the fact that JJ Abram says they've got a script which is good he was working on
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  it with Chris Tero who's Chris Tero well
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  he wrote uh Argo which uh was pretty
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  that's a good movie uh he also wrote Batman versus Superman dawn of Justice and Justice
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  League right okay that's oh no they thought that
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  was [ __ ] hell guys come
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  on co-wrote I will I guess yeah with JJ Abrams no I mean co-wrote Batman versus
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  Superman with David goyer and co-wrote Justice League with both Zack Snyder and
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  Jos Weeden but still I'm sort of hoping that he's just the guy that was there
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  and they did the rest of the writing and he just got a paycheck no I think it'
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  probably be the other way around I think he's the guy who actually wrote the
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  scripts and because the directors had a couple of ideas that ended up in the
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  final movie they got a co-writing credit yes so so yeah that would actually make
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  more sense but I can hope I maybe it'll be fine maybe you
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  know there's a many reasons why those films may have turned out a bit
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  [ __ ] so I don't know you know what wasn't
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  [ __ ] black panther wasn't [ __ ] oh you saw it
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  yeah has it been two weeks and by the time it comes out Yes
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  actually no I think it's been two weeks now all right so maybe or spoiler
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  warning black panther spoilers coming here's the thing I went into this with a
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  little bit of skepticism the the marketing for this was awful the trailer
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  was awful yeah agree with it made me it made me think that this was a movie I
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  just didn't want to see yep then it came out and everyone started saying it was
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  really good now that worried me a little
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  bit because the same thing happened with
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  uh Wonder Woman which is that uh if you liked it fair enough come and say you
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  liked it but anyone who didn't like it was too afraid to come out and say they
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  didn't like it and I thought the same thing was going to happen here and that
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  may be the case but I was prepared to hate it and I didn't cuz it was pretty
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  damn good yeah it's Marvel can somehow do these
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  movies well yeah why made a good point when we were waiting for it she said
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  that Marvel have gotten to a point now that when you're seeing a Marvel movie
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  the worst it can be is pretty good and she's right like when you go to see any
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  movie you're like this might be great it might be utter [ __ ] a Marvel movie you
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  know it's at least going to be pretty good yeah it'll be you'll be entertained
• 27:13
  for a couple of hours yeah yeah like I'm trying to think for me the worst one the
• 27:18
  worst Marvel movie is the little guy what's his name
• 27:24
  Ant-Man Ant-Man the little guy I wish it was called that
• 27:29
  but that's not like it wasn't [ __ ] offensively bad it just it was only it
• 27:33
  was only pretty good yeah yeah you're right I thought black panther was going
• 27:38
  to be the same see cuz the the the
• 27:43
  earth-based uh Marvel movies are all a
• 27:46
  bit seamy at this point I'm finding like I was thinking that as well I was
• 27:52
  starting to think cuz the last one I think the last one that came out that
• 27:55
  wasn't Earth one was what Civil War or something Civil War yeah Captain America
• 28:01
  and it was good War but it was it was good but that was that wasn't even a
• 28:04
  Captain America movie that was an Avengers movie so I'm glad that that
• 28:09
  black panther wasn't the same [ __ ] it was very different it was quite
• 28:14
  different actually uh in scale and everything it was kind of its own little
• 28:18
  thing over at the side this is probably the first Earth completely Earth
• 28:21
  Standalone movie that's been out in a while yes and then now they're
• 28:25
  escalating it all with infinity War which is good because it means you know
• 28:30
  it's it they're keeping it it's escalating and it seems like oh
• 28:35
  wow now they're all it's [ __ ] Guardians are going to be in there and
• 28:38
  it's all like space and spaceships and stuff but it's like well they have to do
• 28:42
  that otherwise it just be the same [ __ ] movie over and over again like
• 28:46
  really like how many Spider-Man movies have we seen they made one and they're
• 28:51
  like all right you got it Spider-Man all right now we're going to just do some
• 28:55
  new [ __ ] so I like that how long do you
• 28:59
  reckon it'll be before we see the Millennium Falcon flying in next to the
• 29:05
  Avengers oh at least 12 months yeah I asked qu and she was like it's not going
• 29:10
  to happen I said [ __ ] she's like well it's not going to happen in the next two
• 29:16
  years we will
• 29:19
  see so this movie Black
• 29:23
  Panther uh it goes into some stuff that I didn't expect it would
• 29:28
  which I liked I really liked that killmonger the bad guy with the awful name
• 29:35
  killmonger uh which they avoided saying as much as possible yeah there was a
• 29:39
  couple of names in this they avoided saying I don't know if you guys know the
• 29:42
  other one Matt do you know the other one I'm talking about what's the other one
• 29:46
  can't remember the uh the there was there's one particular
• 29:51
  character whose uh trophy animal is is a gorilla umbaku yeah so they use his his given
• 29:58
  name not his superhero name his given oh man yeah yeah right did they I didn't
• 30:03
  even know they said that did they say that at some point no they didn't but
• 30:06
  it's clearly manape oh yeah it's yeah it's definitely they've just made him
• 30:10
  into an actual person instead of an a
• 30:12
  gorilla yeah yeah um I like that kilmonger
• 30:18
  was not really a bad guy I loved that he
• 30:24
  I loved that I was in fact there was a long time in the film where I was like
• 30:29
  hang on a minute you're the bad guys he
• 30:32
  won and square yeah and and wait no you
• 30:37
  don't get to go back and cheat this is a
• 30:39
  hostile coup now plus he's morally right yes and but they they did go out of
• 30:46
  their way and I know I I felt like it kind of cheapened the whole thing a
• 30:50
  little bit but they did go out of their way to point out guys no no no no look
• 30:54
  he is a [ __ ] psycho so like because I feel like it
• 30:58
  maybe it was a little too ambiguous and they were like well let's make him also
• 31:01
  kill a bunch of people unnecessarily and then uh you know he's going to going to
• 31:06
  just send weapons out to to you know help the marginalized people rise up
• 31:11
  against their oppressors uh and trying to help marginalized people
• 31:17
  rise up against their oppressors is the bad guy yeah I was see him the whole
• 31:22
  time that's what I mean it's so but but he the way we got to make sure he does
• 31:26
  it in a way that people won't like like he was they were struggling a bit
• 31:30
  to make him into a bad guy if they were going to try to make people not like him
• 31:35
  why did they get the utterly [ __ ] Charming guy from Creed who's the new Rocky you know
• 31:42
  people were saying online oh it's you know they messed up because he wasn't
• 31:45
  really a bad guy and and blah kind stuff I'm like no I'm pretty sure that was the
• 31:48
  point yeah that's why I liked it yeah like Oh Black Panther you know at the
• 31:54
  end I can't believe he killed him because sorry spoiler
• 31:59
  well he because really like he shouldn't have but then it's like no that's the
• 32:04
  point I don't I don't feel that he killed him I feel he I mean he literally
• 32:07
  did but he defeated him and then he died
• 32:11
  he could have lived yeah well I
• 32:15
  suppose mhh but uh but no I did like the ending how it's cuz it's a joke you sort
• 32:21
  of make like wakanda they've got all this technology they've got all this
• 32:25
  money and everything but they Yep they're letting the AIDS get around and
• 32:31
  everything and they address it yeah I know I love this where they're talking
• 32:36
  about uh they're talking about refugees and he goes oh you don't want to let
• 32:40
  refugees in they'll just bring all their problems with them and they'll ruin our
• 32:43
  way of life I like [ __ ] all right yeah I
• 32:47
  hear that I hear that a lot here in the US yeah and then the ending you are no
• 32:53
  we're going to do something but what we don't know well open an Outreach Center
• 32:59
  in Oakland in California oh all right all right then yeah that that was
• 33:05
  that and you guys who were warriors are now just going to be teachers and
• 33:09
  administrators of this school like [ __ ] what oh what about all the
• 33:14
  people in Africa who need our help well let's just start in Oakland yeah uh cuz
• 33:19
  that's where the where people need us the most no I get why I do understand why
• 33:24
  they went there because that's where it all started and kill well in the comics
• 33:30
  you you don't think about it don't think about it that much it's yeah they're not
• 33:34
  making a big statement it's just that's yeah you know what I don't understand
• 33:37
  though uh and this is not about the film itself this is about film goers right so
• 33:41
  I saw this at the cinema and uh as soon as the
• 33:46
  movie ended half the people got up and left and it's like are you
• 33:51
  fuing this is your first Marvel movie you've been to then right okay half of
• 33:58
  you are still here fair enough then when the first inter credit sequence comes up
• 34:03
  and finishes then the other half leave and it's like
• 34:07
  what do you know nothing about Marvel yeah I have this theory about you know
• 34:14
  the end credit sequence when they're at the the UN or
• 34:17
  whatever like and then agent Ross AKA Martin Freeman is there with like a
• 34:21
  shitty in gr on his face yeah I have this theory that you know how like he's
• 34:25
  played out like he's a he's a good guy mhm CU he helps him out and everything
• 34:29
  right but it in he's at the casino for the arms deal right and he's kind of at
• 34:34
  odds with them and he's like no no no we we CIA is doing our thing and then uh
• 34:39
  and then he gets shot right when after they capture the Arms Dealer and he
• 34:45
  wakes up in wakanda he knows all about Kil Monga and what his tactics are he's
• 34:49
  like oh yeah he's doing that thing we do where he destabilizes countries and
• 34:52
  [ __ ] them up yeah I know all about it no one really says anything and then and
• 34:57
  then he helps them he helps the wakandans stop Kil Monga from arming all
• 35:02
  the black people so that they can overthrow all the white people and then
• 35:06
  at the end at the UN when tala is figuring out that they should help and
• 35:11
  he reveals that his plan is to open an Outreach Center in California Ross is
• 35:16
  there smiling and um I think he was thinking [ __ ] that was close yeah [ __ ]
• 35:21
  if that's what he's going to do then I have done my [ __ ] J thank
• 35:26
  God that a close call so maybe he's not such a good guy
• 35:32
  that's all I'm saying I just found it hard listening to
• 35:38
  his accent oh yeah it is odd seeing uh oh Martin Freeman with an American
• 35:44
  accent yeah that was just weird better than Benedict cumber
• 35:49
  batches I am Doctor Strange I am an American did I tell you guys about the
• 35:54
  cumber [ __ ] that I met what the
• 35:59
  what story is that a female cumber batch fan yes and I only I was on a I was on a
• 36:04
  shoot and uh we're shooting with this family and um one of one of the family
• 36:10
  is this 13-year-old girl and she was sitting next to me when um I had my
• 36:15
  coffee brought to me and she goes youe
• 36:20
  duh and I said yeah and she goes um do you take it black with Two Sugars and I
• 36:25
  was like no she's like oh that's how that's how Sherlock Holmes takes his
• 36:31
  coffee and I said oh okay do you know that do you you know how Sherlock Holmes
• 36:36
  takes his coffee and she goes oh I'm a cumber [ __ ] and I was like oh that's hilarious
• 36:43
  and adorable that is very cool black no sugar come on guys Sugar's unnecessary
• 36:48
  no black with two sugars is how he has it that's saying I'm saying that's what
• 36:52
  I'm saying you need to have it no sugar what you want the sugar for you you you
• 36:56
  need no coffee and just sugar just water with sugar oh hold the water hold the
• 37:02
  water black panther was was good that's not you know not my favorite movie ever
• 37:07
  but I really enjoyed it I was surprised too surprised me I like the look of it
• 37:11
  it looked different I like the costumes and the settings in wakanda made me wish
• 37:17
  I could pull that off I cannot no you can't Matt definitely pull off
• 37:22
  exactly some the visual effects in this were a little bit not good yeah like the
• 37:29
  rhinos and stuff at the end the Rhinos were terrible rhinos didn't bother me as
• 37:33
  much as some other stuff but yeah I me they weren't great even little things
• 37:38
  just some of the like backgrounds it was just so obvious what was green
• 37:42
  screen yes you know uh which I think some of the other movies don't look
• 37:49
  quite so fake yeah yeah well this guy I think the
• 37:54
  guy directed this he's done he does very personal films I think uh he he did some
• 38:01
  smaller scale stuff and I think he was a good choice cuz he handled the themes of
• 38:05
  it really well but I guess maybe this is this is his first kind of Blockbuster I
• 38:09
  think so maybe it's something to do with that but he did a good job he did a
• 38:12
  great job let him off the hook is what you're saying yeah I'm saying it's I'm
• 38:16
  sure coordinating a big [ __ ] movie like this is tough for someone who
• 38:20
  usually does kind of Indie stuff so yeah although I'll say this he directed Creed
• 38:25
  uh which was great yeah not a big special effects film though no that's
• 38:32
  true but anyway it's not his job to do the special effects technically
• 38:37
  so should be I mean I doubt he sat there and did him himself I'm pretty sure it
• 38:43
  was ilm so come on guys yeah speaking of which I was um I was
• 38:48
  playing squash uh last Monday night uh with what oh yeah I play Squash on
• 38:53
  Monday nights when did this happen I've been gone for about eight months now I
• 38:58
  guess how is this the first I've heard of you being
• 39:01
  active active sexually active like do any type of sport yeah no this is this
• 39:08
  is literally the first sport I've ever played uh but I do like squash I'm not
• 39:12
  bad at it actually so Luke yeah I uh I go running sometimes feel like maybe I
• 39:19
  should have mentioned this to you yeah yeah Luke's gon to be offed you didn't
• 39:22
  tell him but no I'm upset both dick have a weekly squash game with basically
• 39:28
  other guys who do my job at different places right so uh guys from different
• 39:33
  agencies and stuff and we're walking back one one of the guys from ilm we
• 39:37
  walking back to his car uh this Monday and he was like oh 3 weeks till deadline
• 39:42
  and I'm like oh yeah you working on something big and he just looked at me
• 39:45
  and like I didn't get it he was like um Infinity war and I'm like oh yeah
• 39:52
  obiously yeah that'll do it yeah l d friends in the high places huh
• 39:58
  spoilers for us working on no unfortunately not and I tried I
• 40:02
  tried I got spoilers for it go on go on they're going to lose all right they're
• 40:08
  not going to beat him in this movie they're going to need another movie well
• 40:11
  it certainly would uh put Infinity War part two at a disadvantage if they kill
• 40:16
  him in the first one exactly just going to be everyone going back to thew place
• 40:22
  the second one is a big piss up I hope uh I hope Panther's sister
• 40:28
  shows up in Infinity War she was a good character yeah she was great she was
• 40:32
  definitely do you see what I mean like she reminds me of the girl
• 40:36
  from Book of Mormon she just had that sort of a kind of I guess that sort of I
• 40:42
  don't know cuz she's
• 40:44
  black no it was just the sense of humor she had or just how her humor came
• 40:51
  across just reminded me of her yeah she's in an episode of black mirror as
• 40:55
  well yes yeah the black uh what is it the oh God the black Museum you better
• 41:00
  hope that's what it's called Matt why yep you really want to what it's called No it
• 41:06
  is it's called yeah I know it is so I started watching something else this
• 41:10
  week uh and this is something that Mt I know you would recommend so it's taken
• 41:14
  me a while to get round to it but I finally put on Twin Peaks the return
• 41:20
  ah and it didn't take long in the first episode to realize that I I just don't
• 41:27
  have the patience for David [ __ ] and when I was watching another
• 41:33
  [ __ ] backwards conversation I was like you know what you know what I'm I'm
• 41:38
  not going to do this did you get did you get up to douge mate I got up to scene
• 41:45
  two and turned it off oh wow well you made it further than I
• 41:51
  would no it's not for me I I I appreciate Twin Peaks for what it is but
• 41:57
  I wouldn't I wouldn't watch it again now and I not interested in watching the
• 42:03
  ramblings of an old madman so I'll leave it where it is in the
• 42:08
  past I'm on board with that with the ramblings of a Madman I like it yeah
• 42:13
  yeah I know you do I got well I'm sure I discussed it on here I got really angry
• 42:18
  at it at one point but then not angry enough to stop watching it in fact I was
• 42:25
  like H [ __ ] you I like
• 42:30
  this yeah though talk about movies you'll never get to see Jos weeden's not
• 42:34
  doing Batgirl anymore right so I guess
• 42:38
  uh I guess that drug addict child star can stop texting him
• 42:45
  now who's that what I forget her name
• 42:49
  uh Disney girl and that girl from the movie where a uh a jockey rides a
• 42:56
  zebra girl rides
• 43:00
  zebra you'll know her name when I say it girl rid
• 43:05
  zebra horse race
• 43:10
  movie racing stripes that's the name of the movie the actress
• 43:16
  is oh no no that was uh that was Hayden
• 43:22
  pentier that's not who I'm thinking of Lindsay Lohan is who I'm thinking of oh
• 43:28
  right oh she want to play she be texting him wants to apparently she she wants to
• 43:33
  be Batgirl and she has uh she has been spamming Jos Weeden demanding that he
• 43:40
  give her a screen test in
• 43:43
  Bat God she would be terrible
• 43:47
  yeah well she's just terrible anyway little be honest I haven't seen her in
• 43:53
  movies I've only seen her in horrible video vide of her drunk doing really
• 43:59
  crazy [ __ ] so maybe she's a good actress I have no idea people behaving people
• 44:03
  can behave awfully and then still be good actors I've come to learn so that's
• 44:07
  true they can but I'm trying to remember she hasn't been acting for a long time she did
• 44:13
  Herby is that what I'm think I'm trying to remember what I mistook for uh Racing
• 44:19
  Stripes I don't know she was in Herby I can't think CU Herby she was in Freaky
• 44:26
  Friday all right yeah look I haven't seen any
• 44:30
  of but apparently Jos Sweden uh you know he used to be kind of a a sort of
• 44:36
  feminist darling uh a while back uh and they really don't like out he was
• 44:42
  banging everyone yeah they don't like him much anymore I don't really know the
• 44:46
  details and I don't care to know but I don't know the details either but can do
• 44:50
  you have to stop being a feminist if you're banging people yeah
• 44:54
  maybe I don't think you should have to but I don't know the circumstances that
• 44:59
  he was begging people yeah I think you don't have to have I think
• 45:05
  you there very very uh you got to be very careful I think these days if you
• 45:11
  want to stay in in the in the group as far as [ __ ] yeah you do Cu uh yeah
• 45:17
  they'll kick you out for for all sorts of things that I was like oh all right
• 45:22
  yeah but they're kicking a lot of people out for very good reasons yes they are I'm not
• 45:28
  that was not not what my point was I
• 45:33
  know but I'm just saying they are also kick him out for yeah can't even touch a
• 45:38
  titty um without permission I'm out I've
• 45:44
  ruined it um but I'm sort of happy he's not
• 45:50
  doing a Batgirl movie why is
• 45:53
  that um cuz honestly I think he could do
• 45:57
  a great backy movie oh yeah so [ __ ] don't let him like he could if he was
• 46:01
  given free reign here you go go for it he can't do it in the DC Universe that
• 46:07
  exists now [ __ ] what DC Universe yeah
• 46:11
  exactly we've got ja as the Joker in some [ __ ] unrelated thing we've got
• 46:18
  like I think he would have to try this is why I think he struggled to find the
• 46:24
  story because that's why he said he he's not doing it he did he doesn't have a story yeah
• 46:30
  because cuz he does I I enjoy a lot of stuff he does try and take that and move it
• 46:36
  into the DC Universe in whatever way he he's already done a DC movie
• 46:43
  though yeah but I think he might have been doing that as a if you want the
• 46:48
  batg movie we need you to come and finish this I look I know that that's
• 46:51
  what he said he said that he couldn't find the story but I'm not I don't know
• 46:55
  if I believe that because it I don't believe it either because it's it's such
• 46:59
  a j weden movie and but but he is he has
• 47:04
  come under a lot of fire for I don't know what the whatever the
• 47:09
  [ __ ] he's been doing that made them mad at him about not being bagging CH yeah
• 47:13
  not being feminist enough but he there's also have no idea what he did
• 47:19
  I don't I don't know I don't care there's been a lot of controversy about
• 47:23
  uh the treatment of bar Gordon Batgirl
• 47:28
  in The Killing Joke cartoon that came out because they it got a bit
• 47:34
  rapy like it already was a bit rapy and apparently they made it worse raped
• 47:40
  people in that no she got raped I think I'm pretty sure that's what people look
• 47:45
  by the Yeah Jes and it got it was
• 47:50
  already a bit a bit bit on the nose in the comic apparently uh and then I like
• 47:56
  cuz I haven't seen the animated film but apparently it's even worse and then so a
• 47:59
  lot of people were like uh that's not on and now he's come
• 48:05
  under the microscope and he's going to be doing a movie about that character I
• 48:09
  feel like he was probably like you know what [ __ ] that I'm probably not do this
• 48:13
  right now yeah yeah look I'm on uh comicvine.com right now and there's been
• 48:17
  a user poll right so people can weigh in was Barbara Gordon sexually assaulted in
• 48:23
  The Killing Joke yes no or eh sort of
• 48:27
  um it's pretty close actually with 37%
• 48:31
  saying yes 30% saying no and 34% saying
• 48:35
  sort so I think that majority of people seem to
• 48:40
  agree uh that uh
• 48:45
  yeah there you go well that just I'm not even going to go there for
• 48:50
  that no so yeah I think it's a bit controversial and I think probably he
• 48:54
  was just like nah not going there I think he just wanted to distance
• 49:00
  himself from Batman and DC movies I'm sure it's probably a lot of those things
• 49:05
  all of that combined if I if I was him I wouldn't do it man DC need to get their
• 49:10
  [ __ ] together they do indeed cuz I think what Affleck is Affleck I think he's not
• 49:16
  even signed on for anymore is he he's out yeah oh did he did he actually drop
• 49:21
  out I know he was talking about it I read about it I feel like he's
• 49:27
  contractually obliged to do something else maybe not I think he that photo of the that
• 49:33
  was his last one he had to do or he might have one more but that photo of him the other
• 49:38
  week uh for the listeners who don't know there was a photo taken of Ben smoking
• 49:43
  it smoking a Dar which is a cigarette for non-australians outside the studio when
• 49:49
  they were like well like [ __ ] eight months deep into [ __ ] Justice League
• 49:54
  and it was all just [ __ ] hit the fan everywhere uh and he just clearly had
• 50:00
  let himself go and that's one of the apparently it's a dad bod Batman they're
• 50:05
  calling Batman in Justice League but it's just so but if you look back
• 50:10
  everyone's saying that's him now that was him a couple of years ago all that
• 50:15
  criticism came straight out look at Batman vers Superman right he clearly
• 50:20
  put in the effort because he was [ __ ]
• 50:23
  ripped in that movie and I'm I just and
• 50:29
  then for Justice League he was just like nah [ __ ] it and because I I read an
• 50:33
  article that said that Henry caval loves the you know the the the fitness regime
• 50:39
  that he has to go through for Superman Ben Affleck not so much [ __ ] Henry
• 50:45
  caval though is like a wet fish
• 50:51
  like Superman is such a character that teet on the edge of of
• 50:56
  boring at the best of times and to cast someone like Henry caval I mean he's
• 51:02
  handsome but [ __ ] me he has no personality you know I think the only
• 51:09
  person who was really trying in the Justice League was uh the flash he tried
• 51:14
  it too hard that kid was he really wanted to be remembered
• 51:20
  like like can you guys remember a single line that cyborg said in that movie just
• 51:25
  one line any any line cuz I [ __ ] ter I don't remember him at all if a cop
• 51:32
  asked me to do a sketch like I couldn't do it you know what I mean like I
• 51:36
  couldn't describe anything he wore said did the best the best performance in
• 51:43
  Justice League is from galado because when you think about it it's just like
• 51:47
  she was just wonder woman right but then and and with a bunch of Bad actors and
• 51:52
  she was just she was just great like she was fine like you know she's not didn't
• 51:57
  blow my mind in there but she when I think about all the good things and the
• 52:00
  bad things about it like I honestly don't even remember what
• 52:05
  she did in this movie either cuz she was just fine she was just fine you had
• 52:10
  Batman trying to call the shots he had flash being like goofy you had no one
• 52:14
  else doing anything and then you had Superman coming in and doing everything
• 52:17
  at the end I mean I hated that scene at the start with her at the bank robbery
• 52:21
  awful scene that was just awful but she wasn't awful no she's
• 52:27
  in the entire movie is when the Flash and Cyborg are digging up the
• 52:32
  grave forgot scene should not exist it
• 52:37
  would take the flash [ __ ] weird three seconds to dig up that entire grave such
• 52:41
  a weird movie no let's be honest the worst scene in the movie is the very
• 52:45
  first scene because for some reason the first scene in the movie they decided to
• 52:50
  make a closeup of Henry kev's CGI lips
• 52:54
  yeah so [ __ ] insane and didn't actually the people who did the special
• 53:00
  effects for most of the movie come out and go we don't know why they they did
• 53:04
  that because they gave that to another shudio to do that's not unusual though
• 53:08
  usually they do farm out different different themes or different types of
• 53:13
  effects to different to different houses but they were going like we we we could
• 53:17
  have done that and we would have done it a lot better yeah I bet they're saying
• 53:19
  that now people yeah I love that uh that
• 53:23
  they offered to CGI his mustache on for uh for the for was it for Ghost
• 53:30
  Protocol was it the missible they offered they said oh
• 53:37
  if he shaves it off we'll CGI back on and they sent them a bunch of test
• 53:40
  footage where they put a mustash on Henry cell in various
• 53:45
  films a I want to see that and and and
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  show yes Mark here I come hey Luke do you
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  play uh what is this flight Sim oh it's I think it's Microsoft Flight Sim do you
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  play Microsoft Flight Sim I have many years ago but I haven't for a while
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  while now did you buy any of these uh third party add-ons
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  for the flight SIM from a company called I flight do you know how much do you
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  know how much this add-on cost no
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  $100 right it's just for one plane yep so there is a there's a
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  company called flight Sim labs and they create add-ons uh for I believe it's for
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  Microsoft Flight Sim and where they add
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  new planes to the to the game or to the Sim and apparently they had a lot of
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  problems with people pirating their add-ons and releasing them onto the
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  Pirate Bay and to combat this they
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  decided to along with the installer for
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  this add-on they included a little application that dumps all of your
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  passwords out of uh Google Chrome and then sends it to
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  them yep and they're saying someone discovered this and was like what the
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  [ __ ] cuz that's actually very
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  illegal uh you can't do that H and so they've come out and they've said no no
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  no we were just targeting one person and he knows who he is
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  oh and that's that's whose passwords we were trying to get and then everyone's
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  like it doesn't matter you can't [ __ ] do
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  that so uh yeah so they're in a lot of [ __ ] cuz yeah there's some guy who's
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  cracking their add-ons and releasing on the Pirate Bay they think they know who
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  he is they said they have they have his name uh and apparently they said CU I I
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  don't know where these guys are based but apparently they don't understand how
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  the law Works they've said this tool has already been used to obtain information
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  that will be used in court against them and then uh I think the police will
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  probably inform them that you obtained Us tool is going to be used for
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  anything wow yeah except for a case brought against you this is the thing I
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  can sort of understand why people are pirating their mods cuz this whole one
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  came about side I thought Luke was going to come down [Laughter]
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  on the a CU this all came about from they they found it in the purchase when
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  people were buying the a 320x yes now to buy this plane
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  um I think to get the version four is
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  $140 right for one plane so you're saying that is ridiculous so you're
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  saying therefore it's okay to steal it I'm saying I can completely
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  understand why people are stealing this I want to know who's actually paying if
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  you were at the supermarket and they were like this loaf of this is the last
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  loaf of bread it's now $10 and you were like well that's too much money I'm just
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  going to take it yeah cuz I love it Luke your your example seems to think
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  that there's only two options stealing it or buying it there's a third option
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  that you can that everyone can do yes opt out opt not to do either of them
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  that's that's what you should that's what people should be doing and look
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  well that's I'm doing I'm not saying that I don't pirate things from time to
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  time but that all that what Dan just said is how everybody seems to think the
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  world works like I'm not going to I'm not going to pay to see Infinity War but
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  I do have to watch it so that's right so I'm now required to download it like
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  it's not really how it works no no just with this like cuz this
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  isn't for you to buy the game this is just an
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  add not the only that's really expensive in the world like every single day I
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  encounter things that I can't afford to buy and therefore just don't buy them
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  yeah you don't get to decide what is worthy and not worthy of selling oh no I
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  am deciding right now all right one plane in Microsoft flight simulator is
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  not worth $140 well not to you so don't buy it but somewhere there's a guy who
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  went worth every [ __ ] penny just because you've decided that doesn't mean
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  you can now steal it I'm saying I'm not stealing it but
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  and don't say and listeners don't write in and say it's not stealing cuz you
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  don't take the original away from the [ __ ] off I know I know downloading stuff isn't the
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  same as stealing it
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  it's stealing it's it's it's it's theft I'm not saying it's not but I'm saying
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  if these people wanted to make money all they would need to do is lower their
• 1:00:08
  price by I don't know to $10 and they would sell
• 1:00:14
  100 probably a th% more than what they have that may be true that may not I
• 1:00:18
  mean um these companies no true they maybe it's not though maybe they do
• 1:00:24
  because companies often you know adjust the price until they find the sweet spot
• 1:00:27
  where they get they're breaking the law to try and find someone who's cracking
• 1:00:31
  the game yeah I know that's foolish and also I mean look as much as I I'm joking
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  around about piracy it it doesn't have that much of an effect on sales they've
• 1:00:42
  proven this it does for these people's sales well no but that's what I'm saying
• 1:00:47
  is the people that are pirating this probably wouldn't have bought it as you just
• 1:00:51
  said like so I think people who would
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  have brought this have got a got I got oh it's $140 no I'll just go here and
• 1:01:01
  download it for free instead of going oh it's $10 yeah I'll get that you framing
• 1:01:06
  it so like oh I'll just download it over here where it's for free it's not it's
• 1:01:11
  that's not how it works that's that easy option yeah well I could pay for it why
• 1:01:17
  would I pay for it I'm also able to just get it for free over here but and then
• 1:01:21
  you're ignoring the fact that technically that's like morally
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  wrong like it's not a it's not a simple
• 1:01:29
  decision anyway I'm just you may be right it's $140 for a
• 1:01:36
  plane it's ridiculous well see I I wouldn't buy it
• 1:01:41
  anyway or download it I don't care about it I guess I don't no no I've never
• 1:01:45
  actually um paid more than the cost of a game for a flight simulator even though
• 1:01:50
  I know you can download a lot of add-ons and stuff but yeah now flight simulators
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  don't interest me actually a former member of our podcast
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  probably would have something to say about the list yeah he never played
• 1:02:04
  it but he would definitely have an opinion I brought him that game he
• 1:02:08
  begged me I purchased it for him he never played it I'll say one thing right
• 1:02:13
  I'm sure you would have opinion an opinion about the piracy of this thing
• 1:02:17
  but I actually don't know what it would be that's one of that's the magic of of
• 1:02:21
  Dave is that you never know I don't know what his opinion he'll definitely but
• 1:02:26
  what be will that be it could be anything but I also say what they did
• 1:02:33
  was also very wrong very wrong oh yeah
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  very wrong what uh I'm not I'm not defending what they did no this is very
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  foolish and uh I think they're going to end up in a lot of trouble over it well
• 1:02:48
  they already they already getting way more attention than
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  uh they probably yeah cuz the thing is they didn't even come out to say oh
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  sorry it was an accident or sorry we'll remove it right away and no no no we're
• 1:03:00
  doing it because of this yeah they said we did it on purpose and it's because of
• 1:03:03
  this and then everyone's like no no no you missed the point that this is
• 1:03:06
  illegal and you can't do it no no no we we did it for this reason yeah yeah
• 1:03:11
  don't don't worry your passwords are fine but this one person we're after
• 1:03:14
  that's that's why we did it yeah so don't worry it's fine it's cool okay
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  just give us $140 for a
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  repl sorry that's really pissed me off you don't you're not required to buy the
• 1:03:29
  plane Luke you don't have it's not like they're demanding the money from you if
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  you here they're like here's a thing we made we want $140 for it you're free to
• 1:03:39
  walk away from that transaction I I know but I just don't
• 1:03:45
  they feel dirty just asking for that I post to the people [ __ ]
• 1:03:51
  downloading it for free off the internet oh they're fine they don't
• 1:03:59
  care uh hey I buy all my stuff I really I really didn't think this was going to be
• 1:04:05
  Luke's angle on this I know Luke has gone
• 1:04:11
  Rogue exactly you don't know where I'm going to go these days I really thought
• 1:04:16
  Luke was anti-piracy well not anti-piracy let's be honest but
• 1:04:22
  maybe uh anti piracy I'm also not for or
• 1:04:28
  piracy your piracy neutral yes so you think I've always
• 1:04:34
  been a you give me something at a sensible price I'll pay for it you make
• 1:04:39
  it too hard or too expensive I will steal it from you I will think about
• 1:04:45
  [Laughter] it because it's not illegal to download
• 1:04:51
  stuff it's illegal to share it uh in your country in this country
• 1:04:56
  that is not the case in Australia that's where they can get you they can't get you for
• 1:05:03
  downloading stuff from The Pirate Bay they can get you for uploading stuff to
• 1:05:07
  The Pirate Bay or seeding on yeah but does that automatic but look here's the
• 1:05:10
  thing how can be the law like
• 1:05:16
  surely surely the creator of this or the the owner of this content can say
• 1:05:21
  whether or not it can be downloaded for free like that is a shortcoming it's not
• 1:05:25
  like you can say oh well uh I'll just change the law to for Australia so that
• 1:05:29
  you can just pirate anything you want all the time also you know L your moral
• 1:05:34
  Baseline now is Luke's moral Baseline now is what he can get away with within
• 1:05:40
  the confines of the law
• 1:05:44
  no it's not what I'm trying to get away with or anything like that at all I
• 1:05:50
  think piracy is wrong but I also think charging $140 for a [ __ ] PL is even
• 1:05:56
  more wrong so don't buy it I'm not but that means you don't get
• 1:06:01
  to have it at all that's that's what I'm say should even own the game no I know
• 1:06:05
  that but I'm just saying your argument there are no achievements so why would I
• 1:06:09
  have this what if it was like my horse and me3 and they were like is this going
• 1:06:13
  to be $200 and you really want those achievements but you're like I'm not
• 1:06:16
  paying $200 and there was somehow I know that this is not feasible but if there
• 1:06:20
  was a way that you could illegally obtain it for free and get the
• 1:06:23
  achievements would you do it I have never pirated a game for achievements
• 1:06:30
  and I never will I will always get dodging
• 1:06:36
  the and also I looked into it they were going to make it my horse of me3 but then it was
• 1:06:43
  cancelled hes
• 1:06:47
  up very upset that that n game never got
• 1:06:51
  made speaking of uh all to get out of you still playing uh yeah my horse
• 1:06:57
  Prince yeah he's uh he was making me breakfast yesterday did you get that oh
• 1:07:02
  he's making you breakfast I get [ __ ] I get [ __ ] text messages from him
• 1:07:05
  telling me how hungry he is oh I I turn that off I turn that
• 1:07:11
  off actually I sorry let let me go back when you say he was making you breakfast
• 1:07:17
  do you mean like after you spent the night at his house after you [ __ ] him
• 1:07:21
  no no after uh he he he spent the second
• 1:07:25
  day uh working out on treadmills I don't know if you've gotten up to that point
• 1:07:29
  yet not yet but uh yeah and after that he uh I guess I didn't really explain
• 1:07:36
  why but he he is now staying at my house uh and I woke up and he he was like good
• 1:07:41
  morning breakfast will be ready in a minute he was making um white rice miso
• 1:07:46
  soup and uh some kind of fish dish for breakfast uh and my character commented
• 1:07:52
  that she's never had that for breakfast before okay
• 1:07:56
  okay it's a [ __ ] weird game yeah yeah it is I'll be honest I'm not sure that
• 1:08:02
  I'm going to keep playing this you know really
• 1:08:07
  yes yeah I got out of it pretty you have to watch a lot of picking this up or uh
• 1:08:13
  playing a bit more of Conan Exiles probably opt for uh a latter you do have
• 1:08:18
  to watch a lot of ads when you're playing my horse and me my horse Prince
• 1:08:23
  sorry not my horse and me my horse PRS and me maybe they'll do yeah they'll do
• 1:08:27
  a crossover my horse and me no ads wait that's because you paid for the game
• 1:08:32
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