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Ian Furness 11/5 H1: Ross Tucker, QB issues and a lackluster intro and a visit from Gregg Bell! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light Cold
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  Speaker 2: as the Rockies. Big news continues to be the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: quarterback situation. Sam Darnold out Sunday against the Cardinals. Drew
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  Speaker 2: Locke hopefully will start. Expected, but maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Milrow will back up, and they signed Adrian Martinez
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  Speaker 2: to the practice squad. That's a red flag, folks, by
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  Speaker 2: the way. They did not sign a third quarterback last
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  Speaker 2: time around. If you think that the Locke injury is
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  Speaker 2: just nonsense, think again. Another quarterback change in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz will get the start for the Vikings on
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  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football against the Bills. Kyler Murray's got an
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  Speaker 2: owie on his hamstring. That may be a soft benching.
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  Speaker 4: It may be.
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  Speaker 2: That may be. We'll see. Mike Holmgren nominated in the
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  Speaker 2: coaching category for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The
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  Speaker 2: other nominees are Bill Belichick, Mike Shanahan, Tom Coughlin, and
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  Speaker 2: Dan Rees. I love Holmgren. We all do. If Belichick
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  Speaker 2: doesn't get in, there's a problem.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the unfortunate thing. But we need Belichick to
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  Speaker 4: get in.
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  Speaker 2: So then we can move on to Mike hopefully next year. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Maddie Beneers came through for the crack in an OT
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  Speaker 2: last night. They beat the Flames 2-1. I have no
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  Speaker 2: voice left.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, so good, though.
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  Speaker 2: It was a heck of a game.
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  Speaker 4: Your call on TV, spectacular, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: M's introduced new manager Jason Kanzler, who's actually at the
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  Speaker 2: game last night. to the media, as was, he's there
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  Speaker 2: with Julio and Cal.
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  Speaker 4: I did see Julio and Cal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kanzler was in the suite. He just didn't
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  Speaker 2: get the cue to come out for our TV show. Ah,
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  Speaker 2: got it. Live Golf is done. We're going to get
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  Speaker 2: into that, you and me later.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to Ross Tucker.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Ian's Daily Dose of NFL Football with
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  Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast and
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  Speaker 1: NFL color analyst for both CBS and Westwood One, who
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  Speaker 1: here's Ian with Ross Tucker.
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  Speaker 2: Well, indeed, you follow him at Ross Tucker NFL everywhere
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  Speaker 2: on social media. He does everything. Podcasts for football. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a little help for you if you want to
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  Speaker 2: go and join our friends at the Snoqualmie Casino Sportsbook.
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  Speaker 2: He'll help you out with that stuff as well. He's
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  Speaker 2: busy again tonight. He's got Jags and Ravens on Westwood 1.
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  Speaker 2: You can hear that game right here on 93.3 KJR FM,
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  Speaker 2: 515 kickoff Pacific time. Ross will be on the call.
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  Speaker 2: Then he'll be with the Broncos and the Panthers. That's
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  Speaker 2: a good game on Sunday. CBS as well. Man, you've
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  Speaker 2: got a busy weekend. How are you, my friend?
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  Speaker 5: I am doing awesome.
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  Speaker 6: I'm in a car on my way to Baltimore right now,
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  Speaker 6: ready for phase one.
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  Speaker 2: Phase one of two this weekend. Are you playing quarterback
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  Speaker 2: for the Ravens?
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm not, although it's unfortunate because I had the
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  Speaker 6: Ravens and the Bills on Sunday for CBS, and so
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  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson getting hurt on the first play is kind of,
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  Speaker 6: coming back to bite me twice he got me uh
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  Speaker 6: that that injury got me sunday for the rest of
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  Speaker 6: that game which you can appreciate this ian i mean
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  Speaker 6: that was probably going to be you know the biggest
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  Speaker 6: or coolest game i've.
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  Speaker 5: Called you know oh yeah lamar.
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  Speaker 6: Jackson mvp and the ravens josh allen mvp and the
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  Speaker 6: bills and unfortunately it's the worst part of football that
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  Speaker 6: people get injured.
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  Speaker 5: And so It wasn't meant to be. Had to adjust.
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  Speaker 5: That's part of broadcasting as well. But now I'm ready.
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm ready for tonight, certainly.
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  Speaker 6: And thankfully, I'm a big Pennsylvania guy, so I already
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  Speaker 6: am very familiar with Joe Finiano, and I like the
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  Speaker 6: fact that the Ravens have traded for Jacoby Brissett. He
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  Speaker 6: won't play tonight, but at least the mindset, I feel like,
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  Speaker 6: that the message it sends to the rest of the team,
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  Speaker 6: I think, is a good one.
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  Speaker 2: I was just going to ask you, as we look
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  Speaker 2: around the league, there's, I mean, Minnesota, the Giants, Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to go through the list. Tampa had issues. Atlanta, Arizona, Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Mariota has played. Philadelphia, that's three-quarters of the NFC alone
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  Speaker 2: have had quarterback injuries so far this year, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking through about half of the AFC. So we're looking
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  Speaker 2: at well over half the league has had that. Is
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  Speaker 2: this a strange year? I know that they want to
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  Speaker 2: protect the quarterbacks, and then people get mad when they
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  Speaker 2: do protect the quarterbacks, but boy, Ross, the most important
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  Speaker 2: position in sports is taking a beating this year.
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  Speaker 6: I don't really think it's that different than other years.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe it is.
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  Speaker 6: I think maybe Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts being out
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  Speaker 6: for the year, that's probably a little bit different than.
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  Speaker 5: What we're used to. I do feel like on some.
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  Speaker 6: Level, though, every year there's some station I go on
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  Speaker 6: or someone says, man, it feels like there's more quarterback
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  Speaker 6: injuries than usual. So I do think that There are
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  Speaker 6: quarterback injuries every year. I do think that they try
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  Speaker 6: very hard to keep guys healthy, but it's not easy.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that's the goal of the other team is
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  Speaker 6: to try to hit the quarterback as hard as they can. Obviously,
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  Speaker 6: you guys are seeing that with Sam Darnold now out
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  Speaker 6: a second time with a different injury. You know, the
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  Speaker 6: way I always look at it, Ian, is it just
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  Speaker 6: makes a guy like Josh Allen all the more impressive.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Monday night, will be his 144th consecutive start,
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  Speaker 6: which is just insane when you watch the way he plays.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you can almost see.
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  Speaker 6: That if it was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, but
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  Speaker 6: with the way Josh Allen plays, there's no way he
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  Speaker 6: should have been able to play in this many games
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  Speaker 6: in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Just, I mean... You need a little bit of luck,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, as a former player. But you also,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the way he's put together and how physical
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  Speaker 2: he is. But it is remarkable because it's not like
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  Speaker 2: he just stands back there and gets hit like some guys.
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  Speaker 2: He takes– hell, he initiates contact, doesn't he, Ross? Like
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  Speaker 2: that guy initiates contact.
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  Speaker 5: He dishes it out.
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  Speaker 6: And he told me in one of these games that
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  Speaker 6: this is the lightest he's been in the NFL. Wow.
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  Speaker 6: He's only 233. Only 231 pounds, although only, I guess,
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  Speaker 6: is relative. That's still pretty big. But yeah, I do
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  Speaker 6: think there's something to sort of his mentality and him
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  Speaker 6: attacking them rather than letting them attack him.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's something to that.
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  Speaker 2: I look back, you know, your co-worker at CBS, as
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  Speaker 2: you were saying that, I had to look it up
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  Speaker 2: because I was pretty sure this was the case. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson in his 10 years in Seattle, he didn't
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  Speaker 2: miss a game until his 10th year. And he missed
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  Speaker 2: two that year. I mean, Russ was, I always, that
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  Speaker 2: was one thing with, you know, we can all say
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  Speaker 2: what we want to say about Russ out here and
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  Speaker 2: how things end and all that. That dude was a warrior.
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  Speaker 2: I covered a couple games, I covered a game in
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  Speaker 2: LA once where he had his ankle was done. And
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  Speaker 2: that dude, you know what I loved about him? He
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  Speaker 2: taped up both ankles. So when he's warming up, like
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  Speaker 2: heavily taped. So like, even though the Rams knew which
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  Speaker 2: one it was, he's trying to trick them. Like he's always, but,
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  Speaker 2: but that dude played through a lot of stuff. It's
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  Speaker 2: just hard. Like, I mean, you know, there's a difference
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  Speaker 2: between what being hurt and an injury, right? There's a,
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  Speaker 2: there is a difference like, like Sam Donald can't play.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a little different than say a soft tissue.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you can try to fight through it, but there
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  Speaker 2: is a difference. You went through it. I'm sure during
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  Speaker 2: your career.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: That's part of the reason why I said on today's
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  Speaker 6: Ross Tucker football podcast how much I love the trade
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  Speaker 6: for Jacoby Brissett for the Ravens. I understand that there
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  Speaker 6: are probably some fans that are saying, listen, we're not
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  Speaker 6: going to make the Super Bowl anyway. We might as
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  Speaker 6: well lose and get a better draft pick.
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, there's really not.
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  Speaker 6: That much evidence that picking eighth instead of fifth or
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  Speaker 6: 12th instead of ninth is really that much of a difference.
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  Speaker 5: Right. You know, a lot of times, you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: kind of a crap shoot. We all know that that's
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  Speaker 5: number one.
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  Speaker 6: And then number two, though, you're asking guys to go
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  Speaker 6: out there and put their body on the line. You're
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  Speaker 6: asking guys to play with injuries and play in pain
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  Speaker 6: to not at least give them a chance to win
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  Speaker 6: the game.
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  Speaker 5: A realistic chance.
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  Speaker 6: I think that really erodes the trust between an organization
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  Speaker 6: and a player.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the culture of the franchise.
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  Speaker 6: I like the move by the Ravens quite a bit
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  Speaker 6: to bring in Brissette because he's good enough that they
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  Speaker 6: could go on a run and they can still make
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  Speaker 6: the playoffs and feel like they have a shot at
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  Speaker 6: this thing.
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  Speaker 5: Although now I'm actually curious.
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  Speaker 6: Now that you kind of referenced it, what is sort
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  Speaker 6: of the, if I was walking around Seattle and asking
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  Speaker 6: them about Russell Wilson, what would be the common sentiment?
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  Speaker 2: It didn't end well. I think the there's still the
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  Speaker 2: great appreciation. I think if you talk to a real fan,
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  Speaker 2: great appreciation for what he did, this team doesn't. And, and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I I'll, I'll tell you why in a second,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, I've been critical of the guys that
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  Speaker 2: covered the team, you know, every day and on the road,
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  Speaker 2: like I did back then. And others would, would tell
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  Speaker 2: you there's some things behind the scenes that he did. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that, I mean, he flat out tried to
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  Speaker 2: get both John and Pete fired and went up to
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  Speaker 2: Jody and said that he got some people let go
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  Speaker 2: in the, Strength, conditioning, nutrition, staff, things like that. But
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  Speaker 2: that was at the end of his career. They don't
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  Speaker 2: win in 2013 without Russell Wilson. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 2: just look back at some of the games, some of
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  Speaker 2: the plays he made, they don't get to the Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl in 2014. We know what happened, but they don't
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  Speaker 2: get there. without the heroics against Green Bay. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: someday he'll be truly welcomed back, I think, in this town.
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  Speaker 2: When he was traded, it was just it was time. Ross,
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  Speaker 2: it was just time. It was just time to move on.
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  Speaker 2: The Russell Wilson experience wasn't just Russ, the quarterback, the
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  Speaker 2: humble kid out of North Carolina State and Wisconsin anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It had changed. There was an entourage. And we don't
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  Speaker 2: deal with that stuff out here very well. But I
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  Speaker 2: think there's an appreciation for Russ. And probably he's, I
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  Speaker 2: would say this, he's probably underappreciated in a sense from
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  Speaker 2: that Super Bowl championship team and so forth because of
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  Speaker 2: the LOB and what that defense was and all the
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  Speaker 2: big personalities there. And I think, unfortunately, he gets a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of the blame, too, for what happened on
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  Speaker 2: that ill-fated play against the Patriots. And you can make
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  Speaker 2: an argument all day long, back and forth, whether it
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  Speaker 2: was okay to throw there. It just wasn't okay to
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  Speaker 2: throw that ball and worry through it. But I think
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  Speaker 2: he's a very complicated figure in Seattle sports history, is
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  Speaker 2: what I'd say.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just curious, just kind of the way
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  Speaker 6: you had said that. I always kind of wondered that. Because, obviously,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it took them to unprecedented heights.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and he did. And we're just talking
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  Speaker 2: about this. If you don't have the quarterback, it's really
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  Speaker 2: hard to get to those heights along the way. And
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  Speaker 2: we're dealing with it here right now. I want to,
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  Speaker 2: as Bill Belichick would always say, it's time to move
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  Speaker 2: on to Arizona, time to move on to the next game.
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  Speaker 2: But I do want to get your thoughts just in general.
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  Speaker 2: Last Monday, Seattle and Chicago. And Chicago had a dominant
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  Speaker 2: win over Seattle. This is a week after Seattle has
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  Speaker 2: a dominant win over Kansas City. What are your takeaways
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  Speaker 2: for both the Bears as far as what they look
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  Speaker 2: like in the NFC and the Seahawks after a great
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  Speaker 2: week and then not such a great week? What are
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  Speaker 2: your takeaways from those two teams?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'll start with the Bears.
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  Speaker 5: They look awesome. They're loaded.
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  Speaker 6: They're doing the right thing, which is they have a
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  Speaker 6: really talented young quarterback on a rookie contract, so they
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  Speaker 6: are going they're going for it. And it's not just him,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Luther burden, Colston Loveland. They have a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of guys that look like core players that they are
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  Speaker 6: going to want to extend and pay big money to
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  Speaker 6: that are on rookie contracts. And so they're trying to
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  Speaker 6: maximize that by going out and getting Jeffrey Simmons.
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  Speaker 5: And everybody saw what I had seen.
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  Speaker 6: Calling a bunch of Titans games the last couple of
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  Speaker 6: years that, that guy is absolute hell on wheels and.
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  Speaker 5: You better be ready to roll.
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  Speaker 6: So I think it's not just the fact that they
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  Speaker 6: got him. I think, you know, and what he does
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  Speaker 6: inside the white lines, I think every bit as impressive
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  Speaker 6: is what it does for the locker room, what it
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  Speaker 6: does for sort of the psyche of the team, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, they believe in us.
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  Speaker 6: They think we can really do something and, and, just
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  Speaker 6: the swagger that the defense went out there with.
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  Speaker 5: They, they got a real shot at this thing. There's
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  Speaker 5: no question.
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  Speaker 6: And then conversely, you know, for the Seahawks, that was rough.
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  Speaker 6: You know, that, that was rough on a lot of levels.
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  Speaker 6: It felt like the bears came in there to make
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  Speaker 6: a statement, whereas it felt like the Seahawks were still
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  Speaker 6: sort of happy about how well they had played the
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  Speaker 6: week before against the chiefs and, stuffing Kenneth Walker and
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  Speaker 6: winning that game.
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  Speaker 5: It just didn't feel like they were ready to roll.
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  Speaker 6: And the bears were, and we saw the results, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the bears are coming off a Thursday night game. So
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  Speaker 6: that had extra time to rest, extra time to prepare.
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  Speaker 6: They brought in Jeffrey Simmons and felt like Seattle ran
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  Speaker 6: into a little bit of a buzzsaw there. And also
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  Speaker 6: Darnold was hurt early.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that affected him. He never looked comfortable
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  Speaker 5: in the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Felt like he was always a little jitterish and, That's
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  Speaker 6: not a good way to play.
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  Speaker 2: Walk us through an NFL practice. They kick us out
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  Speaker 2: after about five minutes, and I say five minutes after
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  Speaker 2: basically some stretching starts. So we have no idea in season...
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  Speaker 2: really under Pete and certainly under Mike McDonald, what takes
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  Speaker 2: place in terms of reps. But right now, Drew Locke
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  Speaker 2: is listed as limited. I don't think there's any doubt
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  Speaker 2: that his elbow is a significant problem.
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  Speaker 3: He's been the No.
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  Speaker 2: 3 guy the last two weeks, inactive, emergency quarterback only.
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  Speaker 2: Unlike when Darnold got hurt the first time this year,
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  Speaker 2: they did not bring a third quarterback in. They did
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  Speaker 2: this week. They brought in the Martinez kid, I think,
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  Speaker 2: from Kansas State or wherever he's from, from the UFL,
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  Speaker 2: to be in there with Jalen Milrow and Locke. Locke
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  Speaker 2: was limited, and who knows what that means. So what
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  Speaker 2: does a practice look like in terms of reps for
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  Speaker 2: these two quarterbacks? You've been it, you've seen it, and
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  Speaker 2: how troubling is that if you've got a quarterback that
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  Speaker 2: isn't taking a lot of reps in practice this week,
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  Speaker 2: and you're maybe hoping he still plays if that elbow
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  Speaker 2: feels better?
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  Speaker 6: Well, the good news, I would say, is that Locke
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  Speaker 6: has been there for a while and has played already
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  Speaker 6: this year, and they probably have a real comfort level
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  Speaker 6: with what he'll give them, and his offensive acumen in
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  Speaker 6: the new system. I will say, though, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: best guys I've been around, they like to practice. They
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  Speaker 6: want to practice. You know, Tom Brady wanted those reps.
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  Speaker 6: I've heard Peyton Manning wanted those reps. They want every
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  Speaker 6: single rep they can. Depending on the team, the starter
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  Speaker 6: gets all of them, or maybe the number two guy
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  Speaker 6: gets one. But, you know, the starter's not getting hit,
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  Speaker 6: so there's no real threat there of injury. And then
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  Speaker 6: it's a situation where you want to make sure you
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  Speaker 6: only get, a lot of times, one look at this
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  Speaker 6: play against that defense, and you want to make sure
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  Speaker 6: the guy gets the look. So it's heavily, heavily weighted
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  Speaker 6: to the starting quarterback situation. But I don't know where
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  Speaker 6: Drew's elbow is or if he can even take those reps.
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  Speaker 6: That's the part of it that I think is really,
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  Speaker 6: really fascinating in this situation. By the way, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if you saw, but I think I just saw
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: that they released it. But next week, I've got Raider
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: Seahawks for CBS.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, nice.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Good. Yeah, that'll be awesome. That'll be a real deep
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: dive into that. into the Seahawks next week. We'll see.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: What are you hearing in terms of Darnold's injury and
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: just how bad it is?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, here's the odd thing. This is where, again,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I hate when I hear people and there's a couple
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: national media guys going, oh, it's a soft benching. I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: hate that because here are the things that jumped out
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: at me. And I mentioned the third quarterback they're bringing
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: in on the practice squad so he can do the
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: practice squad or the scout team reps. And honestly, they'll
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: probably elevate him on game day if they're worried at
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: all about about Locks Elbow and Milrow. You don't want
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: to be left in the lurch. But the thing that's
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: odd is, so McDonald comes out yesterday and he says, unprompted, unprompted,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: he says, yeah, Sam's out this week. He got hurt.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: He got hurt. He got hit on that first play
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: or the second play of the game, Kyler Gordon's blitz,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and he smoked him. That rib injury, I think you're right.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I think that affected him during the game. But he
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: said the real injury was the quad, and that happened
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: on the last play of the game. Ross, there's no
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: reason for them to announce he's out. like on Wednesday,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: especially because if they would have just said DNP quad,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: we would have said, okay, well, he's hurt. And that happens,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: and you don't worry about a practice report until you
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: get to Friday. So I thought it was odd. Maybe
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: it's a little more severe than normal, and I just
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: thought the whole thing seemed odd. Why would they offer
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: that up? There's been a lot of guys that didn't play,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: but we don't find out they're not playing until Friday, right?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So that part's kind of interesting to me.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah. You know, I guess the thought process is usually
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: when it's the starting quarterback, that has a way of
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: leaking out anyway.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right. And maybe they wanted to get ahead of it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: You know, some receiver or O-lineman tells their agent, the
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: agent wants to curry favor with Schefter or Rappaport, so
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: they tell them, you know. Usually when it's the quarterback
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: gets out anyway, but I understand your point.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: That is interesting, and that would be something I might
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: ask Mike next week.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And that's why we have you on. You get to
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: talk to Mike next week. All right, a couple quick
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: thoughts before they go. I know you've got to get
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: out of here. Your game tonight, Jags and the Ravens.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: We talked about Baltimore with the quarterback situation. And, hey,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: they're 4-4. It's not like this team is sitting there
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: at 2-6. They're 4-4, but they have a really good
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville team coming in. And Trevor Lawrence playing at a
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: high level. What are you looking for tonight as we
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: take a listen here on Westwood One with your call
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: tonight here on KJR?
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Well, I do think it'll end up being closer than
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: what people think.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: It's a Thursday night game. The Ravens are the home team.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: You know, Finiano's getting whatever reps they have this week.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: The plan is for him, whatever his skill set is. So,
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: and you know, there is something there with psychologically, you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: when teams maybe don't play their best, when they are
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: going against a backup quarterback or in this case third
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: string quarterback so that's certainly an aspect of it that
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: i'm going to be keeping my eyes on is just
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: exactly what they get out of you know um.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: The jaguars but they.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Have a really really good team they looked awesome on
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: sunday i think the jaguars eventually pull away but i
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: don't think it's i don't think it's a blowout.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Final thing for you. I know you're not on the call,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: but I just... at the schedule. Bills and Vikings, you've
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: done a lot of Bills games. 6-1 Buffalo, 6-1 Minnesota.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is going to be the starting quarterback on Monday.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think that takes too much of the luster away.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: A competent guy along the way. That's a heavyweight title
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: fight on a Monday night football. What are your thoughts there?
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Awesome. Yeah, I mean, nice job by the NFL schedule, guys.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Two best records. You've got the best offense against the
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: best defense. And obviously Wentz being out there instead of
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Kyler Murray certainly adds a little intrigue to this thing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I saw, we'll talk to you next week, getting ready
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: for Seahawks Raiders. If you missed it, Ross is on
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that call for CBS next week. He's got a terrific
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: game this week, though, as well, with the Cardinals and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the Broncos and the Panthers, I should say, on CBS.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But you'll hear him right here on KGR. You get
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: double duty on KGR tonight with us, and then 5.15
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Pacific time, Jags and Ravens. Have a great call. We'll
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: talk to you next week, Ross. Tell folks about where
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: they can find you on social media and all the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: fun stuff you've got going on.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you so much, Ian. Really appreciate it. Always
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: at Ross Tucker NFL. We'll see what the Ravens press
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: box food is. For big games, they usually have crab cakes.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know if this is considered a big game.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: It's a primetime game. Maybe in honor of Joe Fignano,
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: it'll be something Italian. We'll see.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: They've got a great Italian district down there in Baltimore, too,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: so go check that out. All right, my friend. We'll
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: talk to you soon. Thanks, Ross.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: All right, see you.
• 21:17
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• 21:20
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• 21:24
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• 21:27
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• 21:32
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• 21:36
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• 21:39
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• 21:41
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• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't ask him. I don't think he's had a
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Seahawks game yet this year.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think he has. I think you're right.
• 21:48
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• 21:58
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• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Back with more. We'll kind of get the show set up. Normally,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Ross is on our second segment at noon on Thursdays,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: but he's got some stuff going on with, obviously, Thursday
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Night Football. So we'll get things ready to go next.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Interesting note came out in the world of TV ratings,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: if you care about such things. Monday Night Football's game
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: with the Bears and the Seahawks a couple days ago.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that one.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want to, but we do.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: 16.4 million viewers. That ranks as Monday Night Football's most
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: watched ESPN-only game since November 2019. It's a span of
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: 76 games. You know, for a while they were also
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: on ABC, right? But yeah, the most since then. Pretty cool.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Pretty cool.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Pretty cool.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Pretty cool. Welcome back. We'll kind of reset the show. Normally, again,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't like to always start with a guest right
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: off the get-go. We had two today just to get
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Ross's schedule in there. Fun thing coming up at 2
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: o'clock today. So we'll get your text at 49451. If
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you haven't sent one yet, wait until later on because
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: we just take the first few that come in right
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: at 12 o'clock. And then we'll get some more of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the last ones, Ashley, a little later. filter through those
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and get those coming up at, uh, at 2 PM today.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And then, uh, Steve Palazzolo is going to join us
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: at one. Uh, Greg's going to jump on us. Greg
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Bell's going to jump on with us here at 1245
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: and we'll get his thoughts. He was just there, uh,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: or he is there at the, the Virginia Mason Athletic
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Center today, uh, Drew Locke and DeMarcus Lawrence speaking. So
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: we'll get the latest from Greg on all of that
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: coming up in just a couple of minutes. The, you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and Ross is right. I'm sure he's right that, you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you look around the league and maybe it's just normally, uh,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: That's the case with all these teams with quarterback issues
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: and injuries, but it feels like maybe it's more teams
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that are good.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way I should have phrased it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: You know, Philadelphia's not good. They're 2-6. They're the, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: right now, the worst record in the NFC.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Think about that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia's got the worst record in the NFC. New Orleans
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: is 2-5, so, I mean, they're effectively the same, but
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: they're worse. And Washington's 2-4-1. Everyone else has at least
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: three wins. But Philadelphia's got the Jalen Hurts injury, and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that's brutal. You know, Washington, Jaden Daniels has been in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and out of the lineup. Arizona, Arizona's not so much injuries.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: They just have issues.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Arizona issues.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Far be it for me to argue with Ross. And
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: what Jacoby Percet probably gives Baltimore more than they have
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: right now. But, boy, that's not a huge upgrade. Atlanta's
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the Michael Penix injury at the start of the year.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: And he.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: He didn't like rain, which is weird. Did he not
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: play in Seattle?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I thought so. I remember being at Husky games and
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: cheering my ass off.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: I thought so.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Very loud.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I thought so.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe we didn't have a lot of rainy games that year,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: but I will say that rain was pretty bad.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, there was no completions on the Buccaneers side.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: No.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: So both quarterbacks were struggling.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: They were both bad. Yeah. And it was tough. Seattle,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the Giants, Minnesota have all also had quarterback issues this season.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: And you look through the other conference along the way, Uh,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you know, it's, it's Cleveland's gone through, now they're on
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Shadur Sanders. Mm-hmm. Um, you can make an argument that
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the Raiders probably should move on from Kirk Cousins, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: that's not a problem. Baltimore is on his third quarterback. Um, Indianapolis,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones missed some time. And even when he has
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: been in there, he hasn't been good, but he has
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: missed time with an injury. And, uh, the Chargers, they're
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: just a disaster. So yeah, it's a bunch of teams
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: that have had all kinds of issues with the quarterbacks. Uh,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: but I, here in Seattle, you, you sign a Drew Locke.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It's almost... In some ways, we've talked about this before
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: with our college guys and like Stuart Mandel and stuff.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: In college, you sign guys oftentimes, Ashley, in the day
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of NIL, you better have a quality backup.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Like you better have a quality backup. And, you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Washington's season has, I don't want to say it's gone
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: off the rails. You know, they could still finish with, say, what,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: eight or nine wins. they're not going to the playoffs.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: So when you're a top 17 team in the preseason, your,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: your expectations are probably go to the playoff, right?
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: That's that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: And so, but DeMond getting hurt and they thought they
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: had a guy on Elijah Brown, and then he actually
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: goes and has to be the guy and he wasn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: the guy. Uh, so, you know, you look at what's
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: going on in Ohio state, they're one loss away from
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: missing the playoffs and you can point squarely at Julian
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: saying being hurt. That's, that would be the reason why.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's, it's a, Right? Big factor.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: If Oregon doesn't make the playoffs, and believe it or not,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: if you missed our show yesterday with Mandel, Oregon still
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: has a shot to get in.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Which is insane. I mean, I feel like I've counted
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: them out.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: We all have.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: We should have.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Not only have we, we should have along the way. Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: But where did their season go south? Well, they had
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: a bad play call, or that's one thing. But in
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: addition to that, the Dante Moore injury.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Somehow UCLA— You need.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: To overlook that one.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Especially because they had Dylan Raiola, so you thought they
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: had a good backup.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And he wasn't. Now he is. Now maybe that was
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator situation.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe. Maybe, right?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Along the way. They got three losses, and I know
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: people are like, how do they have— You just look
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: at where the rankings are in the college football playoff.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: If they win, and if they beat Ohio State, they
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: got a chance.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: You got a chance.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Elimination game there. So yeah, the quarterback position's a tough one.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. Well, at some point today,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: we'll get a little bit more into Jason Kanzler yesterday.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: We didn't get a ton of time to do it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: When I was at Climate Pledge last night in between periods,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: talking to some of the other media members, some guys
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: that were down there. I don't know what the fan,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: like I looked at the text line last night before
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I left here at three o'clock. And the overriding theme
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know if negative might be too strong a word.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You were looking at him too. It just felt like
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: people were less than excited, less than enthused.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know what a guy could say. I said
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: it myself. I thought he had an underwhelming press conference.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: And I said afterwards, I was like, I don't even
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: know what to think about that. What to take away.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: There was nothing to take away.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: If you want good visuals, he was at the hockey
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: game last night in a luxury suite with Cal and Julio.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That's a good start.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Like build that relationship with probably those two guys, number
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: one and number two. And I don't know who number
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: one is. I don't even know who number two is.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: And then you might as well bring in Naylor too.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he might have, I don't know, Josh may
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: have been there. He's almost there. I was going to say,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: he loves that. He's at almost every game. He's got
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: season tickets that are down on the glass, though. But
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: if he was there, I'm sure he would have been
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: up there. They showed one shot. We had one shot
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: of the press of the suite, and it was Julio
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and Cal. And then Kanzler kind of walks down at
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the end. It's like, dude, missed your cue.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were supposed to be there already, bro.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: We needed you to be there, buddy. Let's go. Let's go.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was, I said it, the promo's running.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: We need to give the guy a chance.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it was underwhelming and we have
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: fun with the whole, his first line of it's tough.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Softie lost his collective soul.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Softie did not think that was real at all. He
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: was like, there's no way.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And in fairness, we clipped it, right? Because he said
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: more right after it's tough.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But we had to have fun with it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Along the way.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: We'll check in with Greg Bell next. In the one
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: o'clock hour after we talked to Steve Palazzolo, Tim Booth
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: had a story in the Times today again about the Sonics.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Most of the governor is going to meet with the NBA.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I've got.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Probably too many thoughts to share on that particular subject,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: but I will. We'll do that because I think there's a.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I think you hear stuff like that and go, oh,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: here we– there's so much going on right now. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the problem is it's really quiet. There's a lot going
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: on behind the scenes, but it's really quiet. We'll try
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to kind of sift through some of that nonsense coming
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: up at 1.30 today with the NBA, daily power play,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and then, of course, our guy, Brandon Funston, all coming
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: up in 9.3.3 KHR FM. all right uh you know
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: we could just try to go sift through a bunch
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of sound bites and podium stuff and all that or
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: to find out what was set out at the seahawks
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: headquarters today ahead of their practice coming up here shortly
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: or i could just go back and check in with
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: greg bell Our own Greg Bell, 10 to 12, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: of course on the website you can read all his
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: stuff now here on KJR and find out what was
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: said and have him tell us, and that's probably a
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: better way to do it. So here he is back.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: He's only been off for not even an hour's time,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: but he's back with us, buddy. How are you?
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Anything for you, Ian. I'm good. Yeah, the news of
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Drew Locke is that he said his elbow's fine and
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: that he's letting it rip in practice, that it felt
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: good to let it rip in his words yesterday in practice,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the right elbow, the throwing elbow that he injured three
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: weeks ago. He said until then he didn't practice. He
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: didn't throw much in practice. He did throw during individual
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: drills last week when he again was inactive in the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: emergency third quarterback against the Bears Monday night. But in
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: his mind, he's all ready to go. He's starting Sunday,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and in his mind, no restriction. He said, hey, if
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: the training staff wants to dial me back here at
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the end of the week, that's up to them. But
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I'm full go ready to rip it.
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  Speaker 2: Did he give any indication of what the injury was?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Was it just sometimes you get the dead arm? Did
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: he give you any indication?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It sounds like it was more than just the dead arm,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: but he just said, I had an injury to my
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: right arm, and he smiled. He wouldn't elaborate on what
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the injury was. It's in the elbow. Hugh, who's had
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: that injury, Hugh Millen, our quarterback on KJR, has surmised
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: it might be a ligament inside the elbow, an injury
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: that he has had in the past. He said it's
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: something that if that's what it is, And Hugh Mellon
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: was saying on our roundtable this morning, that's not something
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: you would inject with a painkiller. It wouldn't help it,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and it could potentially rip it right off the bone,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and that would be the end of his season. So
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: he wasn't clear on that, and he's smart enough not
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: to say exactly what it was. But he thinks he's
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: full go, ready to go, and doesn't think he's going
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: to be restricted at all on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's good. So that's some good news there. We're
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: going to talk more about that with Steve Palazzolo coming up.
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  Speaker 5: He's a beast.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Our guy from the 33rd team in Check the Mic
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: podcast actually was a baseball pitcher in the minors. He
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: got up to the AAA level, and he had all
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: kinds of elbow issues, and we'll talk about that as
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: well with him, too, coming up. But before I get there,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I saw DeMarcus Lawrence spoke as well. I'm curious about
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: what he had to say for a defense that the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: red zone isn't very good. Listen, the Bears scored a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: lot of points, but in fairness— They also had some
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: long drives against Seattle. They did have a couple, one
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: half a field and one short field, but they did
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: put the ball and had two double-digit drives in terms
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: of plays. So what did DeMarcus Lawrence say about the defense?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, including 17 plays and eight and a half minutes
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: to start the game. It just bludgeoned them. We asked
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: him specifically about the red zone. Of the last 17
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: trips opponents have made inside the Seahawks' 20-yard line, they've
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: scored touchdowns on 15 of them. The Seahawks are dead
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: last in the NFL in red zone defense if you
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: judge it by how many times a team scores a touchdown. And,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: of course, those are four-point plays, right? You either turn
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: them back for a field goal or they score touchdowns.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: And a couple four-point plays, a couple failures, and make
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: threes become sevens, you lose the game. That's eight and
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: 12 points you're losing. That's how big the red zone
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: defense is. And when we asked them about that, DeMarcus
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Lawrence said, teams are attacking my C-gap. Of course, that's
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: the gap outside the center toward the tight end. I've
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: got to heighten my awareness and be playing better football
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: in the red zone. Then I asked him about the
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: third and nine play, the wide receiver lateral to Kalief Raymond,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: where he just took off past everybody for the 39-yard
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: game that essentially ended the game. It was 20-17 in
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. If the Seahawks get a stop there,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: they get the ball back with momentum and a chance
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: to win. 27-17 game over and I noticed that on
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: that play Lawrence was unblocked because the linemen were running
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the screen out to the side so they left him
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: unblocked and that he leaped and almost batted down the
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: pass so I said how close were you to knocking
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: down Williams's pass he's not close in fact I need
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: to stick my foot in the ground turn around and
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: go get Raymond before he starts running That's on me.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do it. I failed on that play. That's
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: why it was a 39-yard game. And I was sitting
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: there thinking, Ian, this sounds like when I used to
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: be a Major League Baseball beat writer, and after a loss,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: some veteran would go sit in the middle of the
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: clubhouse and wear it for the entire team and keep
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: the heat off the rest of the veteran teammates that
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: they didn't have to answer questions about failures. I'll own
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: this one. And that was DeMarcus Lawrence today. He basically said,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to own this, even though probably all of
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: the problems are not his fault. But that's what a
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: 34-year-old Super Bowl champion now, an All-Pro, in his 14th season,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: that's what he does. And so that was an accountability.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Veteranism from DeMarcus Lawrence.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I like it. And the accountability is important. There's no
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: doubt about that. The red zone defense, though, it's not
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: just him.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: No, it's not.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And that has to be a concern. I mean, it
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: has to be a concern. It's just weird with it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the brilliance that is Mike McDonald as a defensive coach,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: that that 32 is next to that red zone defense
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: stat in ranking in the NFL.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: It's probably the.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Most galling thing that drives him nuts most about this
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: team right now, I would think.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I would think you're right on with that. I saw
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Gray Zabel spoke, too. What did we hear from him?
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: He said that he, he didn't quite use the word underestimated,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: but he said that the move from left guard to
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: right guard in the middle of game week, in the
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: middle of the season, was the most challenging thing he's
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: ever done in his football life. He said, I'm not
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: going to downplay how good that Jeffrey Simmons was for
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the Bears inside on the line of scrimmage, and I'm
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: also not going to downplay how bad I was. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: he said that it was like trying to write right-handed
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: after you spent your whole life, or at least your
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: last couple years, writing left-handed. It's going to be messy, ugly,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: and it's going to take a while before the writing
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: looks good. And he said that his foot placement was wrong,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: he was using the wrong hands. Basically, Ian, he was thinking.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And we know in any sport, if you're thinking you're slower,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: especially on a line of scrimmage, if you're thinking you're
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: slow off the ball and you're going to get beat
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: by an all-pro across from you, and that's what happened.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: So you would think he's going to be faster this
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: game against Arizona. He's also not going to be facing
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Jason Simmons or Jeffrey Simmons on Sunday, and that's going
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: to help him too. But more accountability from him. And
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: he said, hey, there's no excuses in this league. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: get it. They brought in an all-pro. They moved me over.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I got to get it right. But he did say
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: it was maybe, when I asked him, was it a
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: bigger challenge than you thought?
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: He said, yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it just, any offensive lineman you talk
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: to says that. And the fact that, I mean, I
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: know people try to downplay it and everything else. You
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: were going to upgrade at left guard, and at some
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: point you're upgrading at right guard. It just wasn't going
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: to happen, snap of the fingers, over the course of
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: two or three days.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Would you agree? No.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: It's bad timing for the Seahawks that Jeffrey Simmons was
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the guy that Zabel had to go against the first
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: game he got moved. But you're not going to not
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: move him because of that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: You're not going to not bench him, and not to
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: mention that Anthony Bradford's been injured and was limited in
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: practices last week as well. So that was, as Mike
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: McDonnell would call it, the cost of doing business. It
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: just cost him a lot on the line of scrimmage
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: because Simmons was the opponent.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I know you've got some stuff coming up on the website, 933kgr. com.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: What else did you learn out there today before you
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: head outside?
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: That Jalen Miller is getting ones reps, that Drew Locke
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: thinks that Milrow has progressed quite a bit in the
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: short amount of time, even within this season, as far
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: as preparation and learning.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: And Locke said he is too. He said that he's
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: a much better quarterback in his time management during a
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: week preparing for games since he was starting in September.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: And that he also said, I thought it was interesting
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: when I asked him, did you know Sam Darnold had
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: cracked a rib on the second play? He said, I
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: didn't know that specifically, but I knew something was wrong.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: He said, he asked Brady Henderson, are you married? And
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Of course, the one guy in the room who wasn't
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: or hasn't been. He said, no. And he said, well,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: do you have a girlfriend for a long time?
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: He said, well, yeah.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Well, you know when she's upset and she didn't even
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: have to say anything, you know. That's kind of how
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I am with Sam Darnold, Locke said. He said, I've
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: been with him every moment in the last couple years,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: and I know watching every snap and every practice rep
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: when something's not right. And he said it was obvious
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: early in the game something wasn't right with him. But
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: he credited him for soldiering on and playing anyway. Then
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: that raises the question, should they have removed Darnold from
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: the game. He only completed 50% of his passes, the
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: season low, and if Drew Locke knew it, maybe someone
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: on the coaching staff knew it, but because Drew Locke
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: was not available, he was the emergency third quarterback, that
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: made it an entirely different proposition that he would have
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: to throw Jalen Milrow into a game that you're in
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: in the first half. I got the reading between the
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: lines that if Drew Locke was healthy and available, he
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: might have come into the game during the game on
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Monday night.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Wow. Crazy.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Well, they share the misery of quarterback injuries with about
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: half the league.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: At least it's not an undrafted rookie starting for Seattle
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: on Sunday like Baltimore's got.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Right, and you've got Arizona coming in, and despite the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Minshew magic of the world and all that kind of
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: fun stuff, your defense alone over the next two weeks
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: should win you two games.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: No matter who the quarterback. is, the Seahawks should be
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: 6-4 going into the bye, and then you've got 19
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: days off. For Sam Darnold to rest these injuries to play,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: they start the game on November 28th at San Francisco.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: All right. On 933kdr. com, Greg Bell's got his Seahawks Insider
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: information up there for you. Go check it out. Of course,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: his show tomorrow back on the air at 10 o'clock
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: in the morning. We'll let you go until then. You've
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: done your due diligence for the day. I thank you.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, sir.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: There you go. Greg Bell, he's on the roundtable this morning.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: He's in his own show, 10 to 12. I just
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: saw there's a bunch of guys at the podium, a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: bunch of news coming out, and I'd just rather get
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Greg on than try to decipher through all of it ourselves.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: He's there.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: He's there.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: He's there.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Let's use him.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Let's lean on our guy, Greg Bell. We'll take a break.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Come back.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Steve Palazzolo. We'll lean on him. All things around the
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: NFL next.