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Geoff Schwartz on why Carolina Panthers legend Luke Kuechly is a HOF, Chiefs restructuring Mahomes' contract + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: God, this is Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 3: Of your hues.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to wo see from the Murdoch Chevrolet
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  Speaker 1: Studio of ESPN seven hundred ninety two one am.
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jeff Schwartz, a longtime NFL veteran and of
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  Speaker 1: course former Oregon duck, though we forgive him for that.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just tired of stupid people that flood my Twitter mentions.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like an onslaught of stupidity at all times.
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  Speaker 2: This is annoying.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. I'm just venting to you.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything it's specific that you well?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I saw John Rothstein College Basketball Extraordinaire tweet out
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  Speaker 3: that the new Big Ten teams Oregon Washington you see
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  Speaker 3: in the USC are struggling to play well on the road, right,
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  Speaker 3: and I noted that not a problem college football as much,
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  Speaker 3: and not a problem in women's college basketball is the
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Pac twelve teams are you see what?
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  Speaker 3: It's fantastic, right, USC is good, but Juju is hurt
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  Speaker 3: right now, and people are just like in my mention
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  Speaker 3: and so I said, the problem is the basketball team suck.
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  Speaker 3: You see, it's not good. Orgon's not good. Like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what you want from me. Well more than that,
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  Speaker 3: people just the dumb stuff. They say, you can't compare
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  Speaker 3: football and basketball. I'm not. I'm not really comparing. I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying that basketball teams are very bad. The football teams
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  Speaker 3: are much better, and they're better on the road. Like
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  Speaker 3: how surprising is that in sports? It's just stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like people purposely not getting the point. It
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  Speaker 3: just it makes me not want to interact on the internet,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't do as much as I used to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we tried to cure some of that from
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  Speaker 1: Jeff I did. He loved to feed the trolls online.
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  Speaker 3: I've stopped, I've thought, but even just replying to anyone's tweets,
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  Speaker 3: like trying to have any conversation, because you just get
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  Speaker 3: people that routinely just just don't get it or want
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  Speaker 3: to argue, or they're hypocrites or just you know, just
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  Speaker 3: crazy stuff, the same stuff as usual.
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  Speaker 2: I know this was already in the plans.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's wild to see the Seattle Seahawks up
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  Speaker 1: for sale right after winning a super Bowl championship. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I get it, the market price is probably never going
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  Speaker 1: to be higher than it is coming off to something
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  Speaker 1: like this.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think the sale is going to look
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  Speaker 2: like in the NFL?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking. It was announced I think before the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. This is the plan, right, and when Paul
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  Speaker 3: Allen passed, this has always been the plan, right to
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  Speaker 3: sell the team eventually. I don't think he wanted his
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  Speaker 3: team to run to run to run it and we
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  Speaker 3: know better time like the president, Right, the super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: is finished and and the parade has happened. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna go for a lot of money, right, I
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  Speaker 3: mean the evaluations I don't even I haven't seen what
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  Speaker 3: even the evaluation is is right now, have you seen
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  Speaker 3: the number for the evaluation?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: Seven billion, six billions somewhere around there. Right. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you get a stadium that's still in pretty good shape,
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  Speaker 3: even though it's sort of older for the NFL. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: you get a very rabid fan base, right, very good
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  Speaker 3: coaching staff, good general manager. There was a lot of positives,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to this, And I think one thing that's
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  Speaker 3: been interesting is, you know, the owners, the new owners
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL are like the richest of the rich.
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  Speaker 3: It was never sort of that way for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Used to kind of sort of piece it together. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you have a couple, a couple of groups buy a
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  Speaker 3: team together, and Sean now it is is absolutely just
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  Speaker 3: filthy rich owning these teams, right, And that's probably gonna
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  Speaker 3: happen again. So you're gonna add someone else to this
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  Speaker 3: environment too, you know, is independently wealthy, you know, doesn't
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  Speaker 3: need the NFL, but wants to add that to the portfolio.
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  Speaker 3: And I just hope it's a owner that wants to
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  Speaker 3: spend money, right, I mean, I think that you get
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  Speaker 3: in trouble with some of these owners that are very cheap.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's a salary cap in salary floor, I
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  Speaker 3: get it, but also cash spending, right, how much you
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  Speaker 3: wanted to actually spend now to pay your players? Right?
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  Speaker 3: Because typically the cash spending is how you win championships, right,
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  Speaker 3: you have to spend the cash now to win. You
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  Speaker 3: can certainly pay players in the salary cap system, but
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  Speaker 3: you can wait to pay them, right and sort of
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  Speaker 3: you know that that to me is is the is
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  Speaker 3: the issue. So Hopefully it's a good owner that wants
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  Speaker 3: to invest in the team and continue the you know,
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  Speaker 3: the sense if a lost success in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that the NFL office and maybe even
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  Speaker 1: the other owners are hoping that foreign money comes in
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  Speaker 1: here because they they're trying to make this an international league,
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  Speaker 1: an international product in a way that I don't think
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  Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense for NFL football. But the
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  Speaker 1: Niners just announced another international game in Mexico City.
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  Speaker 2: They're playing in Paris whatever I.
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  Speaker 3: Think they're playing. I thinkners are playing actually a game
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  Speaker 3: in Mexico City and in Australia this year.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a game in Melbourne, which I love Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: Might that'd be a fun one to go to. And
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, there it's going to be. They're hosting a
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  Speaker 1: game in Mexico City. So I the language on that
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  Speaker 1: made me think they agreed to have that be count
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  Speaker 1: as one of their home games.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, because of that, you have nine home
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  Speaker 3: games now in a given year, I think your teams
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  Speaker 3: are more willing to give one up to play in
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  Speaker 3: your national game. Right They just got those Super Bowl too,
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  Speaker 3: So maybe that was sort of the stipulation, like Hey, man,
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  Speaker 3: like you get those a Super Bowl, you got to
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  Speaker 3: play an extra game game internationally, some conserted Carrious. If
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  Speaker 3: that's part of the discussion when it comes to those things,
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  Speaker 3: I I would imagine it's got to be the right
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  Speaker 3: forem money. The NFL doesn't often have any morals, but
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  Speaker 3: I do think that the right money matters in this situation.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not going to like Saudi Arabian prints.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that, Like, I feel like that's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna happen, right, But if if a foreign business person
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  Speaker 3: or company wants to buy a team, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they'd be against that exactly, but I think it's gotta
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  Speaker 3: be the right type of foreign investments.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 1: The Rich Eisen had Luke Keigley on this morning and
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  Speaker 1: it was just a really, really great interview.
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  Speaker 2: He's obviously awesome.
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  Speaker 1: He's on the Carolina Radio broadcast now if I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 1: and just to he's one of those guys he's going
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  Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame and is kind of like
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  Speaker 1: as far as you can tell, like just a credit
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  Speaker 1: to the NFL. Credit to the Carolina Panthers to have
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  Speaker 1: a guy like that associator, at least in a public
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  Speaker 1: sense associated with your franchise.
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  Speaker 2: What were your experiences with Keekley?
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  Speaker 3: Like, so, I sort of I sort of missed a
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  Speaker 3: lot of his career. I was, I was out of
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  Speaker 3: Carolina before he got there, and I think we only
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  Speaker 3: played the Panthers once. But I know some of his
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  Speaker 3: friends and players that he played with, and they're friends
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  Speaker 3: of mine and I Marty Herney, I do a podcast
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  Speaker 3: with him called Shuffle of Drafted Luke Keikley. And then
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  Speaker 3: I think that the thing that you hear the most
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  Speaker 3: is just how good of a person he is. I
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  Speaker 3: was playing this to my son the other day about
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  Speaker 3: like the idea of being a good person and sometimes
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  Speaker 3: especially in your youth and maybe in you know, teenage years,
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  Speaker 3: you know, being the good guys you know looked at
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  Speaker 3: as like, you know, not cool to be right. And
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  Speaker 3: I told him, I'm like, dude, just continue to like
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  Speaker 3: be a good person, right, and it pays off again,
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  Speaker 3: I promise you. I promise you it will. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like a guy like Keickley, who was who
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  Speaker 3: was very talented as a football player, just being the
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  Speaker 3: person he was helped pay off in the end, right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, of course there are bad people in the
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, I would imagine, so, I mean there's
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  Speaker 3: a couple of criminals and whatnot, and and but just
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  Speaker 3: like him being a good person definitely is every story
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  Speaker 3: you hear from anyone, right, and then he was just
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  Speaker 3: amazing football player. I mean, just I've made this, I've
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  Speaker 3: said this before that there's different levels to this, Right,
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  Speaker 3: there's the Hall of Fame guys I played with on
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  Speaker 3: the plane with four of them, Adrian Peterson will get
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  Speaker 3: in and Steve Smith, Julis Peppers, and I think Eli
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  Speaker 3: Manner will get it at some point. And just to
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  Speaker 3: to the other three Peterson, Roger Peterson and Peppers and
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  Speaker 3: Steve Smith, and those guys are just otherworldly, right, Like
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  Speaker 3: there's just no explanation for how good of an athlete
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  Speaker 3: they are, how they recover from from injury, how they
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  Speaker 3: preper They just do it better thannyone else. They have
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  Speaker 3: just had this natural drive. Of course you have to
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  Speaker 3: hone those skills in the weight room and do the
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  Speaker 3: things you have to do to be good in the field.
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  Speaker 3: But like they're just they're just naturally better than all
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  Speaker 3: of us, right, and then there's like the next level.
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  Speaker 3: I've talked about this with Jordan Gross. He's the next level,
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  Speaker 3: right where multiple time pro bowler and you know, even
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  Speaker 3: a level from him to me or him to just
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  Speaker 3: an average start in the NFL, there's a huge drop off.
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  Speaker 3: And just the ability to to process and study and
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  Speaker 3: execute on the field and the focus that those guys
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  Speaker 3: have is unmatched. And he was one of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: My brother tells a story of Joe Thomas. We all
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  Speaker 3: know Joe Thomas, right, you know, Hall of Famer in
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. And when you punch as offensive lineman, right,
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  Speaker 3: you typically use your two hands, or you might use
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  Speaker 3: one hand at a time, right, independent punch, you know,
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  Speaker 3: punch with your right, punch of your left. Okay, same idea,
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  Speaker 3: you know, same ideas hitting anyone right. You don't hit
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  Speaker 3: anyone with two hands, simply one two, right, Okay. It's
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  Speaker 3: offensive line is like that a lot. And my brother
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  Speaker 3: said they were playing DeMarcus Ware when he was with
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  Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and DeMarcus Ware his thing as a defensive
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  Speaker 3: lineman was a one arm bull rush. Right, So when
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  Speaker 3: they when a defensive lineman rushes you. They can they
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  Speaker 3: can contact you with two arms, right, like a two
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  Speaker 3: arm bul rush or one arm and a one arm.
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  Speaker 3: It gives an advantage because you can be a little
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  Speaker 3: bit longer. Think about it, if you're just sitting here and
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  Speaker 3: if you put one arm out and you turn to
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  Speaker 3: the side a little bit, that extra distance to keep
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  Speaker 3: an offensive lineman off your body. Right. So a one
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  Speaker 3: arm bul rush is really hard to stop because they're
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  Speaker 3: often lower than you and that extra distance they get
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  Speaker 3: when they turn, you can't get your hands on them, right.
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  Speaker 3: And that was DeMarcus ware. He keeps one arm bullrush
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  Speaker 3: with the best of them. And Joe Thomas just decided
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  Speaker 3: that week he was gonna take his left hand, it's
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  Speaker 3: outside hand, and just punch and meet in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: DeMarcus wear his hand as it came to one on
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  Speaker 3: bull rush him. So as he went to bull rushing
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  Speaker 3: and he just would hit his hand in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the air. And he did it. He just did
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  Speaker 3: he just did it. Did it all again. But that's
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  Speaker 3: what we did. Mitch said that in the first quarter
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  Speaker 3: he went up to Joe and was like, how I
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  Speaker 3: was going I figured it out. I'll just I just
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  Speaker 3: I just punched his I just punched his hand. You
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  Speaker 3: can't bull rush me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this slow motion view of of another Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame level player kind of like cool, you just
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  Speaker 1: like you?
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  Speaker 3: You so like that's Keigley, right, Like he did things
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  Speaker 3: on the field that other guys can do. And one
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  Speaker 3: thing I appreciate about him being on the Hall of
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  Speaker 3: Fame is I am of the belief that as we
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  Speaker 3: get into some of these some of the the guys
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  Speaker 3: are gonna be eligible soon have a lot of good
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  Speaker 3: counting stats, right, rushing yards, passing yards, But are they
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  Speaker 3: really like Hall of Famer? Right? To me, longevity's great,
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  Speaker 3: But if you weren't the top of your position or
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  Speaker 3: close to it for any semblance of years of a
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  Speaker 3: twenty year career, I don't know if you're a Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Famer, I just don't. I just don't. Right, Like
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  Speaker 3: Frank Gore, eh okay, I mean you rust for a
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  Speaker 3: ton of yards, you played good for you, but like
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  Speaker 3: made one old Pro team in twenty years? Are you
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  Speaker 3: really a Hall of Famer? And Kickley played like eight years,
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  Speaker 3: but he was the best linebacker for seven of those
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  Speaker 3: eight years, And so I appreciate that we're starting to
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  Speaker 3: let guys in like that, like Antony Biselli a couple
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  Speaker 3: of years back, who was the best officed to tackle.
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  Speaker 3: Think about Basseli. He was the best officive tackle at
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  Speaker 3: a time when four other Hall of Fame left tackles
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  Speaker 3: were playing at the same time. Like that to me
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  Speaker 3: is hall of is a Hall of Famer and Luke
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  Speaker 3: Keickley played I think it was only eight years, but
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  Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer, So I'm glad he got in
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  Speaker 3: because of that too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, eight years in the league and uh a thousand
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  Speaker 1: tackles in those eight years, six hundred and ninety solo tackles,
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  Speaker 1: four hundred and two assisted tackles, seventy five tackles for loss.
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  Speaker 3: Tiny interceptions too, by the way, will a lot for linebacker?
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  Speaker 3: You had thirty non nineteen eighteen interceptions, Yeah, which an
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  Speaker 3: insane number of interceptions for a linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: Seven force fumbles touchdowns, Yeah, heck of a player.
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  Speaker 3: Those are crazy numbers for that position.
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  Speaker 1: Seven time Pro Bowler, five time All Pro, twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year and uh yeah, a guy
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  Speaker 1: who's going into the Hall of Fame despite only playing
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  Speaker 1: eight years. It's it's why he's he could still he's
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  Speaker 1: thirty four years old.
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  Speaker 3: You can still be playing.
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  Speaker 2: He could still be playing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can still be fighting if you wanted.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no do Look, there's actually there was
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  Speaker 1: just a you probably.
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  Speaker 3: Saw this, Yes, the Gena Toronto and.
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  Speaker 1: Gina Corondo and Ronda Rousier fighting. Gina Corano is a
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  Speaker 1: year older than me and hasn't fought in seventeen years.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm never going to rule it out.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody comes with a big bag, let's see, they
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  Speaker 1: would take ten more years since.
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  Speaker 2: My last fight.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So if someone comes to me when they're when
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  Speaker 1: I'm fifty two years old, they're like, we want to
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  Speaker 1: see you for the first time in seventeen years, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to rule it out.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff, Okay, who's just who's watching that fight? I got
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  Speaker 3: people are going to like namor to watch those two fights.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna watch it? I mean, I'm not, but you are.
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  Speaker 3: Is Gina Sono still blackball from Hollywood? Is that still
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  Speaker 3: a thing? No?
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  Speaker 1: No, she won her lawsuit against Disney and it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like they're going to try to find a way to
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  Speaker 1: get her back into the uh the Star.
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  Speaker 3: Wars universe oh, okay, I had no idea. Good for her. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's Hollywood liberal LEAs who'd want to be in.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind of like have your
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  Speaker 1: cake and eat it too for her because she just
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  Speaker 1: got a big fat check from the Disney Corporation for
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  Speaker 1: their wrongful black balling and termination from her, and they're
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  Speaker 1: just like, well, now that the lawsuit's over, we're looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to working with Gina again.
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  Speaker 2: What does she do for?
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  Speaker 3: What is? What was her role in in in Star Wars?
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  Speaker 2: She was man I love this because Jeff loves Star Wars.
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  Speaker 3: I watched that one. It was good.
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  Speaker 2: She played.
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  Speaker 1: She played like a side character in the Mandalorian series.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, she was Carra Dune.
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  Speaker 1: A former Imperial shock trooper who is now part of
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  Speaker 1: the rebellion.
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  Speaker 3: Surprised I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really surprised you didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen the trailer, the new trailer they put
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  Speaker 1: out for the Mandalorian and Grohu.
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  Speaker 3: Of course I have. I was looking up those those
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  Speaker 3: were real words or not, but they seem to be real.
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  Speaker 2: Your kids are gonna want to your kids are gonna want.
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  Speaker 3: To see that movie, Jeff, oh okay, I tell you,
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  Speaker 3: my son broke my heart last night, this tiny bit.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not he did actually do it, but he's wanted
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  Speaker 3: to watch The Office. Okay, he's eleven and a half
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  Speaker 3: and a friend of mine the other day brought up
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: that his kids started watching Office about that time, so
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, you know, I've watched every episode
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  Speaker 3: Office ten times. Like it's really it's not that bad
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  Speaker 3: for how he won't get the jokes for most part,
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  Speaker 3: but the rest of it he sort of will understand.
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  Speaker 3: And season one is pretty rough, all right, It's it's
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  Speaker 3: a tough it's tough. You have to like stick through
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  Speaker 3: it to get to the middle of season two basically,
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  Speaker 3: and then season three and to seven is like the
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  Speaker 3: best TV of all time. And it's like Norman just
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  Speaker 3: couldn't get through the first episode last night. I have
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  Speaker 3: to I think I have to say I wasn't watching
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  Speaker 3: with him. I think I have to watch with him
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  Speaker 3: because that will kind of maybe keep him more interested.
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  Speaker 3: The first The first season is tough, like it's not
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: you know, Michael Scott's different character. I think I thought
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: about just skipping the first season. Nothing that first season
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: really matters for the rest of the show other than
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: you see Michael Scott change and if someone is much
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: nicer spoiler alert. But I I was kind of bunned
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: that he was not into it. I thought he would be.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: The thing that I was blown away most when I
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: went back to rewatch the Office was how different Steve
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Carell looks in season one.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a podcast that Kevin Malone Brian Bungernder
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: he he does called like a Ore History of the Office.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: It's really it's like Totle episode and they talk a
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: lot about this about how they basically the first season
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: they made Michael Scott like way too angry of a
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: boss and like not a nice spirited person, right, and
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: then they changed the season two to make him They
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: put his hair forward because it was slipped back in
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: season one. Yeah, they put the hair forward, and then
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: they made him a nicer person. He still had the
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: same like sort of mess ups, but he was nicer.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: And they ended this interesting. They ended every episode with
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: something positive, like just something like something positive every episode,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: like to end every episode. And when you watch it
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: back like that season two moving on, it's did they
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: made him a much softer character and then the downs
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: didn't make him the first season was kind of dumb,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: and they decided, like, he's actually not dumb, he's actually
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: good at sales, which he was, you know for most
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: of the show. And if they put that in the
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: storyline as well. So it's a good listen, I listen
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: what we want to travel whatnot?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I think twice through. So it's a good it's a
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: good podcast.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It's the real distinction between the British Office and the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: American Office. Like the Ricky Gervay's character in the British
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Office is not likable ever, correct, He's like you just
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: but the reason you watch it is because he's cringey
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: in a hateable way and Michael Scott ends up being
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: cringy in a lovable way.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: But that's the difference between I think, you know, sort
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: of American meet you know, how we consume and like
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: our characters verus English, right, Like that's in England, that
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: works in America. They found it just doesn't work that
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: way all right.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Back to actual sports here, the Kansas City Chiefs are
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: restructuring Patrick mahomes contract.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: What does this mean is this like.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: A big picture oh crap, where our dynasty is crumbled
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and now we have to try to fix it. How
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: is it interpreted in the locker room and in NFL
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: circles when something like this is necessary for a franchise.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Well, there's seventy million over the cap. That's why they
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: did it. And so they're just moving money around to
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: afford a roster this season. So you know, he was
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I think he was going to be something like seventy
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: million dollars maybe the less movie fifty million over the cap.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: His cap fifty over the cap. Yeah, and his cap
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: number is like seventy eight million dollars a year. No,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: this is just them pushing money to a different year,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and you know the bill come to at some point,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: probably when the team is in as good. But you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Mom's hoff and injury, as you know, as we know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be healthy to start the season.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: But they certainly, I think, feel comfortable with where the
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: team's at. Travis kelce Is. I think they feel like
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: he's going to be back. Ray she Rice has got
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to go. I think that after today and the allegations
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: again of just terrible things. You know, he got in trouble.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Was it two years two years ago? Two years ago
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: with the speeding right, and got in a car crash
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: and left the scene of a car crash. And now
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: his former significant other is is talking to you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: suit him for in court for some really terrible things
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: she alleged. I mean, you can't have a young player
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: like that continually get in trouble. You just can't do it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: So they will need some some wide receivers. But they're
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: close to being a good look at AFC. I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: we saw this year no oz competitive is the NFC
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: right and the Chiefs. As long as you have Mahomes,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you're still in it. So I think they just view
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: this as another way to move money around and build
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: just a better team around Mahomes to you know, to
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: keep this thing going.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is very specific in the Venn diagram of
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: sports and dad life. Okay, yes, I love Christian McCaffrey
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the player. I Yes, Christian McCaffrey went on The Rich
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Eisend Show basically said he doesn't change or hasn't changed diapers.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, dude, that's not cool. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: don't like that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't like you as much now because I mean,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: he was like, I owe some diaper changes, but he's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: not going to make up for those lost diaper changes.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Why does he change a diaper?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: What?
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Why has he done it? Oh?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why hasn't he changed diapers?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Like? How is that?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: How is the dad thing handled in NFL locker rooms?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Like are you encouraged to be the good hands on
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: dad or is it like the macho culture of like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: this this is the nineteen fifties and leave that to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: your significant other, to your wife, like I need to know.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I just I just watched Mad Men through
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: again and it is really like striking, Like how the parents,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: the dads in that show, Like that's what life was,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I guess, probably right in the late sixties.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Like you just worry like kids didn't even know their dad.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you just like worked and do whatever you
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: wanted and just showed back up when it was time
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: to show back up at home. I mean, I think
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: most of us, you know, take as a responsibility. I don't.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I've never talked to my friends about it, but all
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: my friends, to my knowledge, are great parents. And of course,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you know, great parents can vary depending on who is
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: judging that, but I mean, my my friends and whatnot
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: seem like they're great parents. You know, we heard Joe
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Judge the other day and if you saw that, he
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: was testifying for It's a Chamblist, and he said something like, basically,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I tell the s and iff and others that their
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: you know, their their their husband or the boyfriend who's
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: playing that playing college football needs to sleep during the season,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: So don't bother them at all at nighttime. If for
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: for bottle, change bottle for feedings and change it. And
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I just, first of all, I think it's inappropriate for
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: a coach to talk to a spouse like that for right,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Like that should be the spouse's job, if anything. But
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I just I just kind of made me cringe a
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: little bit. I don't know, man, Look, certainly sleep as
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: important as we know we know sleep is important, right,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: there's no there's no doubt about that. But also that dude,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that that bonding time with your kids, like during that time,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: like that's just like an important bonding time, right Like,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: And I just feel like if you miss all of
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: that to say I'm never doing this, I need to
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: get ready to play football, I think you're missing a
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: lot of opportunities, Like for like Christo McCaffrey's missing opportunities
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: to be with his young child, right, and also like
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: you got you gotta help your spouse out. Man. I'm
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: sure they have help, but like it's still I felt that,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you know, you want your spouse to feel like you're connected,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: and you're doing this in a partnership, and if you
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: haven't change your diapers, what what partnership is that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It's the first thing I've disliked about Christian McCaffrey's entire
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: public image, persona, everything I've ever seen from him.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: We'll let him turn the WiFi off at night. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: thought that was a little odd.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: He turns the Wi Fi off at night?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Fred Warner said that because they were
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: talking about the you know, the electual substation, and he's like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: there's like Christians mccafree turns his WiFi off at night.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: He should And you shouldn't be using Bluetooth headphones either.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Anybody you use bluetooth headphones? You us wired headphones?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: At all times?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't have air pods. I won't
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: use air pods. I don't like I don't have any because, man,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want because Bluetooth is like radiation going through
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: your brain.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm partly gonna die from being obese if I have,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Bluetooth radiation, the nonchalant matter and where you just throw
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that out there is hilarious but also terrible.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, I just I'm just like, oh, okay,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I just I'm just like, maybe I just I should
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: worry about more things like that. I just I just don't.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I wasn't interesting though. My daughter has she had some
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: breeding problems where she just wasn't like able to like.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: It started this year in the fall. She wasn't able
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: to read. And she's in fourth grade. She's able to read,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: but she couldn't like follow, like line by line, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: she would skip a lot of words. And it's kind
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: of odd. And I took I took her to I
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: told my friend of mine who said her son the
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: same problem. You'd go to a vision doctor, a vision
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: developmental doctor. So we did, and bro it is fascinating.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: So her eyes like don't work with the rest of ours.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: So it's like a neurological thing like that she was
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: born with essentially, and so she's gonna she started yesterday
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: doing some green light therapy. So she wears these like
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: glasses and we have a light bulb and she just
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: looks through the almost like they look like three D glasses, right.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: And I watched she did yesterday at the doctor's office,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and I saw so when basically when you shine a
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: light in her eyes, her pupils get small and then
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: immediately get big, which I shouldn't do, right, they should
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: stay small. And so I watched that she did twenty
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: minutes of this, and then I saw her eyes did
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: it less right. So basically my point was like and
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the guy was telling me, the doctor was like, yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I used green light therapy like to help me go
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: sleep at night, to help me with my immune system.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna hop on some of those new trends if
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I if I can figure out if it's good or not.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Let's go, man, where I'm going to get a sauna?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I've I was I've been reading some stuff for those
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: just reading stuff about how saunas improve your heart health
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and reduce the likelihood of a myocardial infarction.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I one of my pet peeves put a pet peel
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and this is a very Larry David thing. I see
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: these influencers who like work out a couple hours a day,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: maybe thirty minutes a day hour like they have all
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: this recovery stuff at their house, sauna, norm attack cold home.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't need any of that. Can you stop? Please?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You just me stop?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: You only like it if professional athletes haven't.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think professional athletes.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Are you gate keeping on? Like the compression leggings.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I am gate keeping on compression leggings. Oh, compression leggings,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I don't I see personally, I don't like that stuff.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So maybe that's why I don't. Look. I'm not into it,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: but I don't work compression luggings, compression tights sure like
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: the short ones, well, sixtential ones.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Did you see the wolf dog that ran onto the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: cross country skiing event?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, I saw one video that I thought it was ai.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: That's real.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's a Czechoslovakian wolf dog. His name is Nasgul.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And I'll give you a dollar if you know where
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Nasgul comes from.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Sean, you know that I no know this answer. That's
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: why I offered you a do is it Star Wars? No,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: it's Lord of the Rings. Oh this is another nerdy thing. Yes,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: my son is still not watching Harry Potter. That's it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: For him.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: You know what, We'll get him there. He's eleven and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a half, twelve thirteen. That's the right time for him
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to get into Lord of the Rings.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: While we've been talking, I've been watching Finland and Switzerland
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: play hockey and I have a Finland wager of them
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to win. And they were down to nothing. It's now
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: two to two. Well all the time, they scored two
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: goals while we're talking.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm a little upset that the checks were not able
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to get Canada out of the tournament.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Earlier that was Canada did not play well and one anyways,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: the three on three was electric, buddy, people are angry.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: That's how they're they're they're determining these games at the end.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, it was for a non
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: ball nowheer like myself. Three on three looked like a lot.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: It was pretty fun to watch.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I've I've kept you over time again, which is just
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: something I do every time we bring to you. Have
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: nothing to do, so go play some video games or whatever.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Buddys talk to you later. That's Jeff Schwartz. He's the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: best