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Ep. 391 - Werewolves On Wheels (1971) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Friday Night's podcast. I'm your host Austin
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  Speaker 3: Proctor and joining me today for episode three ninety one.
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  Speaker 3: Is my good friend Derek Ferrera is my beautiful wife,
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  Speaker 3: Gabrielle Proctor. Hello, Hello, a guy.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 3: The emotional weight I have to carry around from not
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  Speaker 3: only making you watch this, Derek watched this, and anybody
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  Speaker 3: else who's listening to this episode. I have to just
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  Speaker 3: carry that around with me for the rest.
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  Speaker 1: It helps. We've definitely watched worst movies. This movie had faults,
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  Speaker 1: but not in the Jesus kind of way.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so we have two totally different views on this.
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  Speaker 1: It was a bad movie. I'm just saying that we've
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  Speaker 1: watched worse movies.
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  Speaker 3: And it pisses me off. We'll get into it today.
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  Speaker 3: On the last installment of July Anthropes Howl, we're discussing
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  Speaker 3: our wild card pick and boys. That's yep, that's right
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  Speaker 3: on the nose. Very wild Card Werewols on wheels from
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  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy one. I didn't write a witty one liner
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  Speaker 3: about this movie. The movie is just the joke itself.
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  Speaker 3: It's good God. Let's see where this lands on the
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  Speaker 3: nightmare index. I think it's gonna land. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: way down there.
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  Speaker 1: How sue you out.
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  Speaker 3: So before we move on to what is arguably one
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  Speaker 3: of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: say that lightly, let's talk about some things that we've
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  Speaker 3: watched recently that we did like, and then we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: end on something we did not like. Unfortunately, we just
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  Speaker 3: had like two back to back stinkers, which is never fun,
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  Speaker 3: and I desperately needed a palate cleanser. So I'm like
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  Speaker 3: right in the middle of Franken Hooker because I had
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  Speaker 3: to laugh or I part of me might have died.
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  Speaker 3: So what have you watched since we Since we last podcast,
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  Speaker 3: I've watched like all.
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  Speaker 1: Of this with you. Finally got to see Exit eight.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. We've been kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you to Alliance Entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we watched Curse together, always a delight.
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  Speaker 3: Which ultimately should have that's my wild card recommendation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was gonna be on the show for a wild card,
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  Speaker 3: but we've already both seen it and love it. So
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing with the wild card is no one's
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  Speaker 3: supposed to have seen it. That's why it's a wild card,
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  Speaker 3: because it's either going to be good or bad. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I will second that I did end up giving Cursed
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  Speaker 3: a bump up from a three to a four.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have been watching Oh that's what we got
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  Speaker 1: to watch tonight. We got to watch that next Spider
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  Speaker 1: Man because we've been rewatching this Spider Man's in preparation
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  Speaker 1: for the new movie, which I've heard great things about.
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  Speaker 1: Very excited. My two favorite heroes are Batman and Spider Man,
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  Speaker 1: and I know that they're the most popular. I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: But then yeah, I'm mostly kids movies and true crime
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  Speaker 1: with you currently trying to convince you to watch Mulan.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm so torn on baz Lerrman only because I
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  Speaker 3: know I but you know, you start with Romeo plus
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  Speaker 3: Juliet was You're either going to be very much into
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  Speaker 3: or very much not into. I'll let people decide where
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  Speaker 3: they think I'm at, and that you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, Mulan is a totally different bag.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same director.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a totally different bag.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's just if Romeo and Juliet is too much?
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  Speaker 1: And do you watch Strictly Ballroom because it's it was
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  Speaker 1: an older one of his films. It it's more toned down.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've still got some of that like exaggerated acting,
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  Speaker 1: which really just makes it so fun to watch, but
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  Speaker 1: it's much more compressed. There's not crazy amounts of stylized
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  Speaker 1: things outside of the ballroom dancing costumes. Now, if you
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  Speaker 1: liked how stylized Romeo and Juliet was, but the pacing
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  Speaker 1: maybe was just a little too jarring for you, but
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  Speaker 1: you really liked how he did set design, or I
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  Speaker 1: like how he chose his set designs, and like how
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  Speaker 1: it felt like its own little pocket world. Mulan Rouge
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  Speaker 1: tones it down a bit a bit. You've still got
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  Speaker 1: people who are really passionate, but they are passionate about
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  Speaker 1: throwing a musical on at the Mulan Rouge. And you've
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  Speaker 1: got a beautiful love story rolling through, uh that, and
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  Speaker 1: it's an original story. So I think Romeo and Juliette
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  Speaker 1: can really throw people off. I personally love it, but.
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  Speaker 3: What what I'm saying, there's there's the split right there.
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  Speaker 3: You love it or you hate it. And I when
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  Speaker 3: I remember when we were watching this like two minutes
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, are they going to be rhyming
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  Speaker 3: the whole time? And you said yes, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I give up or sorry not rhyming? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: They I mean they yeah. But I love that they
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  Speaker 1: did that because you still get what's going on. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that was baz Lerman's point, is he was
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  Speaker 1: trying to prove that you could still follow the movie
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  Speaker 1: without throwing it fully into modern language.
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  Speaker 3: Prove not for.
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  Speaker 1: Me, Yeah they don't. Everybody speaks pretty modern in mulan Ruge.
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  Speaker 3: It's like that episode of How Much Your Mother, where
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  Speaker 3: the entire episode they rhyme and two seconds into that episode.
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  Speaker 3: I skip it every time because I'll go fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. That's just my my adhd
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  Speaker 3: O c D alemento pe brain. So I don't remember
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  Speaker 3: where I stopped talking movie wise, last last episode. So,
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  Speaker 3: uh you we're in the twenty fourth Well, I know
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  Speaker 3: we talked about deep Water, right, we had to wait? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So then so then I'll talk about Dead Media because
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually the I've got an upcoming. I don't even
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  Speaker 3: know if I mentioned this yet. Shit, I'm so out
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  Speaker 3: of it. This movie literally fucked my brain so bad.
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  Speaker 3: So Dead Media is a new movie coming out this year,
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  Speaker 3: horror movie indie movie I spoke to the director recently
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  Speaker 3: after I watched set movie. It's a very good nineties
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  Speaker 3: nostalgia trip. It's got a movie in a movie. I
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  Speaker 3: think I did it. Oh, I did a TikTok on it.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'm all confused. Yeah, so you can go
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  Speaker 3: check out my you know, insta TikTok video on it.
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  Speaker 3: It's really good. And uh, not just saying that because
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  Speaker 3: I'm interviewing the director. If you've listened to this show before,
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  Speaker 3: you know that I you know, I picked movies that
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  Speaker 3: I enjoy and try to talk to people that made it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, dead Media. Uh, it's good time. It should
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  Speaker 3: be available for streaming by now. I think I'll have
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  Speaker 3: to check on that. I watched it. Got to catch
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  Speaker 3: up with my cult movie challenges here. I watched Invasion
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  Speaker 3: of the Body Snatchers for Rare Lust week. Good. If
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  Speaker 3: you're confused, don't worry, so am I. But rare Lust
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  Speaker 3: is an online archive, and it's a community dedicated to
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  Speaker 3: preserving and sharing rare, obscure, cult and vintage films, which
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  Speaker 3: are typically often hard to find mainstream mainstream streaming. So
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  Speaker 3: the og Body Snatchers from nineteen fifty six really good time,
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  Speaker 3: shockingly because you know how like The Blob and the Thing,
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  Speaker 3: the original movies aren't aren't like that great, but the
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  Speaker 3: eighties remakes are amazing. Yeah, like the original Fly was
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  Speaker 3: it was a great movie, and the remake by Cronenberg
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  Speaker 3: was ultimately better, I think. But this was actually really solid,
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  Speaker 3: so much so that I put on the remake directly
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  Speaker 3: after when you Were Out with the Kiddo and compared
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  Speaker 3: them like basically side by side, and they were very
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  Speaker 3: similar but obviously very different at the same time. But
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  Speaker 3: I ended up giving the original a four, where the
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  Speaker 3: new one, which we reviewed on this show is at
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  Speaker 3: a four and a half. But I was wildly impressed
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  Speaker 3: with the original. I want to show that to you
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  Speaker 3: at some point.
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  Speaker 1: God, I'd like to see it.
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  Speaker 3: Very good, especially for it being in the fifties. Watched Howell,
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  Speaker 3: which is a definitely an underrated a werewolf movie from
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  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. I believe it's from the UK. It only
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  Speaker 3: has a two point six, but I really enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: It's an entire train full of people that get I
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  Speaker 3: think they get stopped out. I can't remember what happens
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  Speaker 3: to the train, but they stopped in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the Yeah, they stop in the middle of nowhere and
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  Speaker 3: then like get invaded by fucking It's like trained to
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  Speaker 3: bussan except the train has stopped and there's werewolves. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so not like it at all. Uh yeah, so that
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  Speaker 3: one was good. Three and a half stars for Howell. Then, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you already talked about Jack's Back. What was my review
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  Speaker 3: for Jack's Back? Oh, that was a horror movie. That
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  Speaker 3: was such a strange movie. And then we watched Cursed.
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  Speaker 3: What was the We watched a couple of true crimes.
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  Speaker 3: What were they? I want to talk about them for
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  Speaker 3: a second. We watched Toxic the Love I haven't Toxic
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  Speaker 3: Love Story. I just haven't rated and reviewed them yet.
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  Speaker 3: That was a new, brand new one on.
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  Speaker 1: Netflix, right, Yes, that had just dropped on Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that one was crazy. Just everybody's the problem, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe not everybody, but okay, so two thirds of the
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  Speaker 1: people are the problem.
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  Speaker 3: My crazy matches you. That's all I can think about
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: is the Deadpool line. My crazy matches You're crazy. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, that deserved I think multiple episodes because
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  Speaker 3: they crammed so much into it.
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  Speaker 1: And that was what the part I didn't like is
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  Speaker 1: they crammed some stuff into it, they skipped over some things,
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  Speaker 1: and then I felt like we were kind of left
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  Speaker 1: hanging about some stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm starting to actually rate my documentaries by this one
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  Speaker 3: really was the deciding factor of like it was probably
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  Speaker 3: one of the wildest ones I've seen, but ultimately needed
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  Speaker 3: more time to breathe. It was they crammed so much in.
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  Speaker 1: There, and I see you that as the wildest and
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  Speaker 1: raise you the Kings of Tuplow.
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  Speaker 3: God.
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  Speaker 1: That was crime saga, all so wild. But again, they
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  Speaker 1: kind of dropped off some plot point, not plot points,
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  Speaker 1: but like things that were happening that they made parts of,
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  Speaker 1: like whole episodes around, and then just didn't really get
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  Speaker 1: around to how those things spanned out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminded me me very much of Tiger King.
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  Speaker 3: We're watching this, I'm like, this is about as as wild,
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  Speaker 3: Like the.
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  Speaker 1: Thing will be as wild as Tiger King.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying it just I was getting from the
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  Speaker 3: main guy with the conspiracy. Oh yeah, yeah, because like
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  Speaker 3: I was getting vibes of you know, Joe King from him,
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  Speaker 3: just with how bizarre he was. I love a good
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  Speaker 3: conspiracy theory, don't get me wrong, but man, this one
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  Speaker 3: was out there. And also I don't think it never
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  Speaker 3: got answered. I don't think the question ever got answered.
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  Speaker 3: So uh, and then we watched another one. What was
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  Speaker 3: the other one we watched? Was that the Mariah one?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you already talked about that.
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  Speaker 3: I thought we watched Okay, maybe I'm misremembering. No, no, Tupelo.
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  Speaker 3: And the other one took a while?
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  Speaker 1: Was it it was more episodes than it was three
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  Speaker 1: or four?
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  Speaker 3: Was that a new one for this year too?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty four. Okay, well, usually we kill more time than that,
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  Speaker 3: but there's no sense in wasting time because I want
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  Speaker 3: to get this discussion. This is one of the rare
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  Speaker 3: times I'm not excited to talk about a movie, but
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  Speaker 3: here we are, so I guess let's roll into the
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  Speaker 3: body count. This is also what happens when you're on
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  Speaker 3: back to back episodes. Because I couldn't make it work
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  Speaker 3: with other people.
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  Speaker 1: I've been watching Shit's Creak, so I don't have as
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  Speaker 1: many movies.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true. You're in a she or in
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  Speaker 3: a show. You did mention that, like last time when
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  Speaker 3: you were bragging about your stats, You're like I could
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  Speaker 3: get sucked into a show, and I am and you are. So.
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  Speaker 3: This is were Wolves on Wheels from nineteen seventy one,
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  Speaker 3: which came out November nineteenth of that year in the US.
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  Speaker 3: It is rated R for moderate sex and nudity, moderate
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  Speaker 3: violence and gore, mild profanity, moderate alcohol, drugs and smoking.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that's severe. They're drinking in almost every scene,
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  Speaker 3: and mild frightening and intense scenes. Thank god, it's only
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  Speaker 3: an hour and twenty minutes. Don't ask me why it's
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  Speaker 3: listed as only a horror movie. Was the horror in
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  Speaker 3: the room with us?
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  Speaker 1: There were those bits, then the times that sort of happened.
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  Speaker 3: Is it the trauma that I'm left with? Is that
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  Speaker 3: the horror?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the.
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  Speaker 3: Movie mentally abused me and I don't appreciate it. It's
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  Speaker 3: like a god directed by Michael Levis Skway, who only
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  Speaker 3: directed four other movies. I wonder why, and only one
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  Speaker 3: other movie has a poster. It's called Sweet Sugar from
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  Speaker 3: eineteen seventy two, written by David M. Kaufman. Forgot to
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  Speaker 3: check the relation to Lloyd Kaufman. Could you help me
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  Speaker 3: out on that, who also wrote three total movies, and
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  Speaker 3: the only other one with a poster on IMDb is
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  Speaker 3: called Girls on the Road nineteen seventy two, and the
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  Speaker 3: same thing goes for Michael Leviskway wrote three only one
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  Speaker 3: has a poster called Girls on the Road, composed by
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  Speaker 3: Don gear who also composed Sweet Sugar, and that is
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  Speaker 3: the extent of his credits. That's it. Cinematography by Isador Mankowski,
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  Speaker 3: who also did these skinnontography for Scream.
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  Speaker 1: There's no relation.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, no relation, Oh, no relation. Also did the cinematography
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  Speaker 3: for Scream, Blackula, Scream Carrie, although technically uncredited, and then
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  Speaker 3: the Muppet movie, so he took a huge step up.
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  Speaker 3: It's good for him. Edited by Peter Paraschelles, who also
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  Speaker 3: edited Don Quixote and seventeen other movies I haven't heard of.
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  Speaker 3: Then we have starring Steve Oliver as Adam, who's most
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  Speaker 3: famous for The Naked Zoo as Terry Shaw Okay, silence,
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  Speaker 3: just utter silence. Donna Anderson as Helen who is also
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: in count yorga Vampire as Donna. Okay, Jean Shallat as
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  Speaker 3: Taro even though everyone was calling him to Row, which
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  Speaker 3: pissed me the hell off. Not even pronouncing it right,
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: or am I pronouncing it wrong? It's Taro right, It's Taro.
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  Speaker 1: Also think it's really hilarious. They just like lost Boys
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  Speaker 1: this shit. We're gonna give you names based on that
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  Speaker 1: thing you're into.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. And he was also in Funny Enough The Velvet
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  Speaker 3: Vampire as Carl Stoker. Oh that was the other thing
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  Speaker 3: I forgot to talk about. Whatever, It's fine my other
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: cult movie challenge. I haven't raided yet. Uh. Billy Gray
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  Speaker 3: is Phil who was also in the original The Day
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  Speaker 3: of the Year Stood Still as Bobby Benson. Someone spent
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty five thousand dollars on this. I
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: don't even understand how it costs that much. It was
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: basically a dude in the back of his van getting
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: forty seven motorcycle montages. Worldwide box office grows of na
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  Speaker 3: probably because it didn't go to cinema. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: film in California, but every city had video commentary or
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  Speaker 3: desert sands underneath it, So I don't know what parts
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: of California because like literally every city listed had video commentary.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm a cool. You can watch this on two
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: WEE Pluto and Plex Movies that came out around the
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: same time. I never thought I would say I would
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: rather watch a clockwork Orange than another movie. But here
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: we are Dirty Harry, the French Connection, Harold and Maud, Cabaret,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: the Last Picture Show, Fiddler on the Roof, Macbeth, and
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Dracula Versus Frankenstein. Yes, Dracula Versus Frankenstein is a very
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: real movie.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen three of those.
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  Speaker 3: Clockwork Orange, Fiddler on the Roof and Cabre. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: was easy. That was I think that might have been
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  Speaker 3: the easiest one.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: One day, I'll get you to watch Fiddler on the Roof,
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  Speaker 1: but you have to be emotionally prepared for the back
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  Speaker 1: half of that movie.
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  Speaker 3: And have about a day and a half to watch it, because.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, the first half is so good, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like the songs are just you'll hear the songs
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  Speaker 1: and be like, oh, I've heard this before because they
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: like Even Gwen Stefani sampled a song when she was
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: going through a horror era that if I were say
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  Speaker 1: that again, the horror Harku, Yeah, where she had the
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  Speaker 1: four girls that she was treating like props instead of
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  Speaker 1: people to follow her around. The four Japanese girls. Sure
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  Speaker 1: when she did her solo career. Oh and she she
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: sampled if I were a rich man, if I were
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: a rich girl, that's that song. Obviously she changed the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: law of Lyricspence.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Boy for I can sell I can think of is
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: from saying not that.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so but it's it's really good. And one
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of the guys from Flash Gordon, not Flash, is in it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Oh he's the crazy scientist that shot Flash Gordon into space.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: He's a savior of the universe. Yeah, where were we?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: What started that?
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I was saying that one day I'll get you to
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: watch Fiddler on the Road.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, sorry, I'm telling you this brain is. This movie
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: has rotted my brain so much I don't know who
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I am anymore. I AMDB summary. Now I'm gonna give
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you two different ones. Right, I'm gonna give you the
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: one that's on IMDb, But then i'm gonna give you
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: the two B one because they're similar. So this one,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: it's a biker gang and it's leader fall prey to
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: a Satan worshiper and his cult. Okay, sure, that happens
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: about you know, ten minutes ten, but it's not really Okay,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Twob says a biker gang refuses to sacrifice a female
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: rider two devil worshiping monks, but she's been possessed anyway
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: and turns into a werewel every night fucking what.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, technically that is what happened, But refused is
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: a strong wrong implication. So I would say they rescued her,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: but like too late, I think would be more accurate.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: But they didn't actually refuse because they were unconscious.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, and then the letterbox one is entirely too long,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: so I'm not going to read that one. Let's move
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: on to the autopsy. Here, we are sitting across those
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: tables we've done many times. What are your overall thoughts?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Can you want me to just read my thoughts that
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I had over the course of the film.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because this is this is the rare time,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: rare only time that you've taken notes and I haven't
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: because this brain, this move keeps saying, this brain, this
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: movie turned my brain to fucking mush. I don't know.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I kind of want to pepper them out, but I
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: kind of want to hear you ramble them off. I
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: just feel like everything you're gonna say has a path
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: to go down probably so then just yeah, overall thoughts
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: for were wolves with that were wolves on wheels.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, So my first thought watching this was this is
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: an interesting plot idea. Not initially when it opened up,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, we're harassing the gas station
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: man who was very friendly to you for reasons. I like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I get the whole we're bad,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: we do what we want thing with biker gangs. But
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: if you're a dick to every gas station on the road,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they're not going to want to give you the gas.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And I feel like you need that to keep that
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: train a roll in, So you know, pick and choose
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: where you're going to be a dick.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: But wait, are you reading them?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not reading. I'm saying about how I felt
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: These are struck No, I'm just talking.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I haven't read any of this.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, good. I was like, are we not on the
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: same page?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: But now the the story idea of these bikers getting
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: shit faced kind of stumbling into this temple situation and unintentionally,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like unintentionally setting off this chain of events and having
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to deal with the consequences, that's a great idea. Yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I kept thinking the whole time. I can picture this
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: movie written so much better, because there were so many
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: parts throughout this film where I'm like, a conversation here
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: would have been really good, or developing this thing they're
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: doing would have been so great, but like they it
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: was so underdeveloped. I'm surprised that it was as coherent
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: as it was, which is saying a lot, because you really,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: if I hadn't read that blurb, I would have been
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: more confused.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I read the two B blurb see, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I read that after the movie and I was like,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: is that what was happening?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So because I had read that, it made more sense.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, I'm sure and everyone who watched it, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: assume on two be because Plutomplex Suck probably had the
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: same thing. I didn't read that until after because I
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: originally started it on my Blu ray. But there's no
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: fucking subtitles, and that's an immediate cell to get out
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: of my collection right off the bat. I need subtitles.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna put out a movie from a boutique
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: label and you don't minimum have subtitles, you're failing miserably.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: But that's a whole other conversation, so that that was
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: already an immediate cell because, like I said, I need subtitles,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So I just started watching it on two B so
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I could have subtitles. But I didn't bother reading the
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: synopsis because I figured it would be about the same
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: wildly different synopsis, synopsis, synopsises, whatever. So do you have
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: more to say? Okay, so not not great overall.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: No, it was mostly because the story was under developed
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and the dialogue was underdeveloped.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Not that the story stuff happened.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Nothing happened.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah they did. They got drunk, they had the whole
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Satan temple thing. Then they fuck off on their way.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: They're like, we're going out of town. We're gonna you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: try to deal with it. You get your first attack,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh shit, there must be something we need
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to move on somewhere else. Guy number two dies, uh.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Terreau there is like, hey, there's some freaky shit happening.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: The lead uh, the leader there blows them off or
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: blows him off and is like, no, you need to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: shut the fuck up about this.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: He's the only one that has like a normal names
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Adam right, yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh. Then they but then it really jumps to Okay, well,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: now we're going to prepare to fight whatever the fuck
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: this is. We don't even know what it is. So
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: stuff was happening. They were trying to outrun whatever, they
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: were trying to get away from whatever. It wasn't until
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the second thing that they're like, maybe there is some
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: weird shit going on. But again, because it was underwritten,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that wasn't extremely clear, and it also was under utilized.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of their plot points were heavily underutilized, and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: if they had built them up more, it would have
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: been more interesting. Because biker gang on the run from
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: something they don't realize is in their midst, or like
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to get away from things that they're
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: just brushing off as normal parts of living in where
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: they are. That's interesting. So yeah, stuff did happen. It
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: was just underdeveloped.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I guess agree to disagree because I guess I'm not
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: saying nothing happened in the sense of literally nothing happened,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: but when I when I'm watching a movie and I
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: can't I literally had no idea what was happening, Like
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I got it. Okay, they did something to Helen, yep,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that caused them to leave, But everything after that just
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: seemed to be like them bumbling around. I did not
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: get that they were trying to run from.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: It at all, because the first thing they say, oh,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: it must have been a coyote, let's go, And then
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the second time they're like, well, they didn't trip into
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the fire sober, so they're arguing about whether or not
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the second guy.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess the problem is is no one seems
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: concerned about anything because they're all drunk except for to Row.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And at one point Adam's like, you know, you're worrying
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: everybody with all this bullshit, And I'm like, are they worried?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Because I don't get a sense of I get more
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: of a sense of annoyance from the rest of the
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: gang than anything. Yeah.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: And Adam, on the other hand, is trying to keep
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: everybody chill because he's worried about his girlfriend. But the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: way they did it just like he didn't give a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: shit when in reality, like, if you really look at
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: what he's doing, he's scared. He doesn't know either, and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like that somebody's making everybody else scared, and
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: he's trying to put on a brave face for everybody
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: else because he doesn't know what the fuck's happening? Well,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: but underdeveloped character, underutilized scenes, and underutilized storyline. It makes
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it hard to really get into that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Well, and the fact that no one could act their
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: way out of a fucking paper bag. I mean, geez uh.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: The only one who didn't did was the girlfriend. She
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: she actually was.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Fine, which girlfriend, Helen?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Helen, Okay, she was doing fine.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: But for the most part, all the guys, their acting
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: was more wooden than fucking Captain Redbeard's peg leg if
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: he had one, Like, I mean, good lord. They were
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: all just so nonchalant about everything, getting drunk half the time,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't I don't know what's
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: going on here. This just seems like a movie about
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: motorcycle gang. It's like, there's no were wolves on wheels.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: There was were wolf on wheels. Yeah, there was one
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: were wolf on a bike at towards the end of
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the movie, and it was pitch black and couldn't see shit.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Ten out of ten.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did have to wait the whole movie to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: get to where the were wolves were on the bike.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: There was only one on a bike.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying because of how the are we spoiling
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the ending. Yeah, we always spoil every because when they
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: went to go fuck up the monks, they all got
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: changed into were wolves. You just never saw it. They're
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: literally like, we are one. They took thecri, the sacrament,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so to speak. Yeah, so it is implied at the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: end they're all fucking werewolves. Now yeah, no, I guess,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: which was like, oh shit, love that, except it's underdeveloped.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying we have like in werewolf makeup, we
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: got one. Yeah, yeah, sure there was werewolves on wheels
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: in the sense of not transformed. Have I even said
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: my overall thoughts yet?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I thought you were doing that? Have you not been
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: doing that?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that what they did it. You could
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: literally rewrite this without actually changing the plot points correct
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and make just a just a sick, fucking werewolf movie.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: And part of me is really tempted to do that
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: for no reason.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: No, what do you mean, for no reason? For to
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: live up to the title. If you're gonna have a
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: movie that's called were Wolves on Wheels? Give me were
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Wolves on Wheels?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Don't WANs the right to this. I need to talk
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to them so I can do a script.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: It's just you're not even living up to the name
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: of your own movie. That's crazy to me. Like, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the poster too. The poster of the movie is literally
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the last few minutes of the film. There's like a
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: snake wrapped around I mean, I wasn't expecting the werewolf
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: have a snake wrapped around him or her or whatever,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: But like the poster, I'm like, Yo, this is a
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: can't miss. How is this? How did you fuck this up?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I actually have like a lot of problems with that poster. One.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: There's no way she's hanging that way too. Yeah, she's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: got her if you zoom in on the skull, she's
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: got her little finger stuck up through the soft palate
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: through this.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Thing's no broad Stoke Stokes Stoker broad stroke. So if
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: you just look at it, I'm saying, like, when you
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: look at it, you're like werewolf on wheel, snake fucking
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: big cross.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has no neck. I couldn't get over this.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It's like, I guarantee you sorry. But I was like, yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: this poster's really cool. But it's like AI were like, oh,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: this is great, and then you zoom in on shit,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and then it's like this guarantee you. They drew this
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: whole motorcycle and guy in the background drew her first,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: drew him, realized they didn't have enough headspace between his
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: head and her hair, so they just didn't fucking draw
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: his neck in.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Let me see which one you're looking at, because mine
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: might be different. Oh no, mine's just blue.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, because like oh, and I think it's hilarious.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: This is the end of the movie right here.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this poster is very silly, like from a distance,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: cool close up.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: So I guess I don't even know if I've said
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: my overall thoughts. My overall thoughts on this movie is
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: is what what happened? I guess it's not even a thought,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: it's a question. I don't know what happened with this movie.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It had such potential. The title alone drew me in.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: The poster was another thing that drew me in, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: then this is what we got. It blows my mind
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: that they messed this up so bad. And I agree
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: with you for absolutely no reason at all other than
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: to just live up to the name of the movie.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I want to add this to the list of screenplays
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: that I want to tackle at some point. And actually
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: do wear wolves on wheels, because you're right, the base
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: idea fantastic. Everything up to the monastery, although I wasn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: in love with it, I was like, Okay, we're getting somewhere.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: And then the second they rescued Helen from monks who
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: were apparently Satanists, which I'm pretty sure that's a conflict
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: of interests, but I don't know. I don't know. I
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: was like, this is great, and then that's where you
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: need to You do the same basically the same intro,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: except maybe make the bikers a little more likable. Sure
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: they can be rough and tumbled, but not you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: being a dick. Also, the fact that Mouse described what
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming is his girlfriend or wife as mama. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: get it's you said it's a seventies colloquial term. Let's
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: pick a different one. Because when you introduce her as
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: mama and then you stick your face and her breasts,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking this, we're doing incests now. So that was
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: also very strange. Don't know what started that tangent, but
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I wanted to get it out before I forgot it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: But you literally go to the monastery and then just
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: you take instead of taking a left, you take a right,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: and you go down that path and develop it more
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: and you've got one hell of a story. But instead
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: you get thirteen motorcycle montages, a lot of a lot
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: of just sexual tension between all the men quite frankly,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: like I told you, and then completely like I don't
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: mean this in a derogatory way at all, but it
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: was like the gayest group of guys I've ever seen,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: and like I said, not in a bad way. It's like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure we're all gay here that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: One of my notes is actually there are lots of
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: men caressing each other, yeah, especially when no they're like
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: rolling and holding each other. And then one of the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I think one of the funnier scenes was one of
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the guys was laying there kind of drunk and the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: one sitting next to him, he's like, he says something,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: do you love me? Like, yeah, I love you, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: then he pretends to climb on top of him and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: try to make out with him, like he's joking around
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and I was like, this would have been
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: better if they actually it's actually make out, But you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it's fine.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there was more sexual sexual frustration and
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: tension there than that, you know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: There's more positive masculinity in that moment.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I mean it is, it is about positive masculinity, which
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: is interesting because you know, the seventies was full of
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a lot of very many things, so to have such
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: a kind of not gender fluidity, But like what am
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I trying to say here, like in a world where
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: with sexuality, I guess.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: No, it's not even sexual. It's not even sexual in nature.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: The fact that the because it's so non sexual. You've
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: got these men who are trying to act tough, trying
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to be tough, but when it's just them, they're comfortable
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: because they're they're they're family, they're comfortable being close to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: each other. They're comfortable being putting hands on each other,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like wrestling around, and it's all non sexual. So it's like, yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it was just like, wow, they are really rolling around
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: with each other. But really, if you look at it,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it is positive in that aspect because they're just being
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: close and they're being friends like and that doesn't really
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: get portrayed that often because guys keep a good foot
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: distance between each other at all times.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Oh man, you probably don't know this, you're not a guy.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: But when guys went to the movies in like the
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: early two thousands, back when you could pick your seats,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: you know, and they didn't have the app. There was
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: always that one seat buffer to make sure everyone in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: the theater knew that we weren't gay. Like that was
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: a thing we did.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: That's so stupid.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I mean that's the thing that me and
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: all my friends did. I don't know what that says
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: about me or if that was a normal thing, but
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: like it was always that one Like if me and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Spencer went to the movies back when we worked at
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the theater, one seat buffer, you know, like we're not together.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that was normal, but that is
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: something that was in my circles that was considered normal.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, which is funny because on the flip side, nowadays,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Heather and I just assume that other people assume that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: we're married to each other when we go out, because
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: we do look like we're married to each other and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: we're both wearing wedding rings.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and now I couldn't give a shit less, Like, yeah,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: now you don't care. It doesn't make sense to set
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: a fucking I want to talk to you and about
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: the movie.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You want to whisper in your ear.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to whispered, sweet, nothing's in your ear?
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: How am I supposed to do that? A seed over?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that was That's how like rooted in like homophobia.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: We were in the early two thousands. Oh, just a society.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: But for this movie to be so like like I said,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: like pro just whatever men.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're toxic in the way that they treat
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: other people and the way they have to the biker code,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: but like they still they're still weirdly affectionate with each other.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: And I say weirdly as in it's weird to see
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: because you don't.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Especially from the seventies. It's not. It's very very different
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: from what's normally happening in the seventies. The seventies were
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: full of you know, exploitation films and grind house films,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: and I'd say it has slight exploitation towards webmen because
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of women just ripping their tops
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: off for no reason.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's actually one of my notes.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Oh perfect, good, let's go right, let's let's segue into that.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Then I want to make a full nude movie, not
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: like porn where it's a normal film plot, everyone is
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: just nude. So maybe people will get desensitized to nudity
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: because between this and the nudity and that other movie
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that I oh, I forgot to talk about it figured
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you were going to review it and whatnot.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I am going to review it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But the whole like, let's show a shot of her
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: ass for what cause she's got an ass. Let's show
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: her tits? Why cause she's got tits? Okay, Jesus.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: There was so many shots of butts and I'm like, Okay,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: it's a great looking butt whatever, but like we just
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: just don't need to see it twenty seven times.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so just like between that and this, I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: was just like, God, I am just tired of nudity
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: for the sake of nudity. And I'm just like, I'm
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: gonna make an all nude film where the plot just
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: keeps like a normal film plot. Everyone just they're just
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: are no clothes. Maybe by the end everyone will get
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: over it because they're just bodies. Yeah, Like I told you,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I've told you many time. You take one life drawing
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: class and nudity ceases to have the same meaning to you.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: You go to one bath house and you're like, uh, yeah,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm new too. Whatever. Yeah, uh, it means nothing,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: but that was one of my notes for that. I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: also think the wedding dress thing was really underappreciated. Where
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: she gets up, where the girlfriend gets up Ellen. Yes,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Helen gets up from where they're all unconscious.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: M yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Also side note, wild move to just be eaten and
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: drinking stuff. Random monks just show up and hand you
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: hooded monks. Yeah, they're just like, here's some bread and
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: here's some wine. No, yeah, weird move on their part.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Very well, they weren't the brightest. But anyway, when Helen
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: gets up and starts running, and then it cuts back
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to the monks and it cuts back and she's running
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: in a wedding dress with the crowd flowers around her head,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and this idea that she's already starting this transformation, she's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: already locked in, she's ready to be the of Satan.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's actually really cool. And then she
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was nude and I was like, okay.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, I was like, oh, this is a cool shot.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, like I just just
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: up and down. I'm like, she's topless it yeah, okay,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: no top oh it's sheer and she has no underwear on. Okay,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: now we're just sexualizing this woman at this.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Point, which is the seventies.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: So well, yeah, and you know, the bras. I don't
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: think we're invented until you know, at least the nineties,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: because seventies and eighties or no one to wear in bras.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you saw the bras in the fifties
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and sixties, you'd know why.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I wouldn't want to wear those either.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I mean they look pretty, it look terrible, But yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: so I did think that was really cool. I just
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: wish they had done a little bit more with that,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like dragged, pulled that further into the ritual part and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the fact that she ends up backing it again, like
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: she is the icon for the ritual that they're being
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: forced into. That was I really enjoyed that, like her
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: being the actual essentially a statue at that point.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were definitely some cool shots in this movie
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The charcoal face thing was so bizarre though.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't get that. I was is this, I
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: thought that was the werewolf makeup and was like, uh, okay, it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Looks like they just smeared gray soot over their face
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and it just looked really patchy and not well done,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and that was bothering.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing at the end of the
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: movie when they're all sitting around and the camera goes
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: to each one of them and then they look at
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the camera like an eighties fucking sitcom. H they all
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: had something on their face and like these things. I
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: was like, is this indicating that they're werewolves? Is that
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: what this is? Because they don't make it very clear. Yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: But then they also attack the werewolves that that turn,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, is this werewolf on werewolf violins? What
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: the fuck is happening here?
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: What I think is what happened.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Is it's a lot of speculation.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: From the Helen bites Adam. Yeah, I know, I know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: so I think she made him a werewolf, but he
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: was not aware of that.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: He was an unaware wolf pretty much.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And I mean the reveal that he is a werewolf too,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: because you kind of figure she is, but the reveal
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: that he is too, I was like, oh shit, they're
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: both were wolves. Okay, cool, back.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Up, back up the reveal that he what I got
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: immediate Well, I guess if Yeah, I guess is you
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: at this point you don't. I was gonna say, if
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: if he if I knew he was because Helen bit him,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: then I guess she would have to be. But that
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: was so much more like vampiric because of the two bites.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So the way the bite was done was very confused.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Also, so what the fuck does devil worship have to
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: do with were wolves? That is?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: That is?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: That was one of the stronger issues for me. I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: think if they had kind of made up a god
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe there's some I know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: the pentagon. They had a pentagram, right, Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: That's more related to witchcraft, less specifically.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: The pentagram on the there's the pentagram in the original
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: wolf Man and then cursed this member that goes on
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: the hand. So I was like, okay, maybe we're to
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: do something with that. But it was something about being
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: the bride of Satan. I'm like, what is being the
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: bride of Satan have to do with licanthropy?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The tie like, there may
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: be like a road there, but I don't think it's
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: as close as that made it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: It's a but it's a bumpy road. Down in the
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: forest that I don't I don't really want to take
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: my car down.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to take some forks to get there,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: but you know, I also made a note that the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: ritual scene sounds like the middle part of the song,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the end by the doors, where it kind of sounds
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: like they're just kind of chilling into the instruments. And
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I'll play it for you later and you'd be like, yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: that's like that, because and if you've heard the song,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I once again, I actually wrote two notes about the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: wasted potential of this, so I said I could write
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: this better, and I said I can't get over the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: wasted potential. And yeah. Then I also thought it was
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: really funny that they poked him to death with fire.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, he did actually get up right off and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: explode somehow, but the fact that they were all just
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: kind of lightly jabbed him with fire was fucking hilarious.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he did get lit on fire.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but in this case, the bike crashed over here
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: and then over here he kind of exploded, and I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: thought that was freaking hilarious. But like I said, there's
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: so much of this where plot wise, you could keep
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: these plot part plot beats and just flesh them out
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and flesh the characters out and just have an absolutely
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: sick werewolf movie. They just didn't do that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Did you notice the part so Helen and Mouse get
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: attacked first, and they die and they bury him in
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: the sand that Helen.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Helen's the main chick, right.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Surely Shirley and Mouse. And then when yeah, when they're
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: getting attacked, I thought I saw like foreshadows. I thought
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: there was two were wolves or something. I don't know.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: But she gets the throat repped and throws her head
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: back and blood goes everywhere. Did you notice when later
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: in the movie someone else got their throat red, they
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: threw Shirley in there again. I'm like, guys, what did
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: they just reuse a shot? It was so strange.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I was more distracted by the fact when the hand
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: comes around that guy to rip his throat out, you
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: could see the wrinkling of the fabric for the arm,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and it was just a full on like puppet hand situation.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it really did look like just an over
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: exaggerated puppet hand. It was huge.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: The werewolf design was terrible.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: See that's where I disagree. I I not all of it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: We're talking one. I like the fact that it's bipedal.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I like that. I like the face because it kind
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: of vibes like the original wolf Man. I like the
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: pointed ears. The hands and the feet though were just
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: very straight, they were very bulky.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: They fell off with the design they'd filled a different design.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: They felt like two different designs. But like the face itself,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I really did enjoy and I was like, man, it
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: would have been cool to see so much more of this.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Uh No, full Moon mentioned no silver bullets burning them.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I guess works because that's how Helen dies. And I
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: thought Adam died too because he got lit on fire,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: but apparently he you know, stopped, dropped and rolled and
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: that worked, and then he got on a motorcycle to
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: literally jump off of a sand dune and explode, which
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: was which was pretty funny. Yeah it was, And at
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the time I didn't know that it was Helen. But
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: when she just picks that guy up and he yeats
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: him into the fire, I cackled so loud. I don't
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: know if you heard that. No, yeah, she just picks
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: him up and it's clearly a dummy, and she just
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: yat I'm like, that's fucking great. Like there's a little
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: pocket to this movie where I'm like, that's hilarious, Like
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: this is great, But overall, I'm like, you're not utilizing.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Like it's like back and heavy with exposition. There's like
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: no build up to anything. And the longer the movie
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: goes on, the more they start talking about it, which
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: you think would make sense, but in this case, I'm like,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: you haven't explained enough for me to keep up with
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: where we're at now.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: It's like I don't need you to actually give me
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: every detail, but uh detail Again, I'm really only following
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: this as well as I am because I read that blurb.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm wonder so let me see if I
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: can get this straight right. We got most of the
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: plot points here. The gang gets lost, they come across
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: the monks who welcome them with food and wine. They
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: all get drugged. Right. The Satanic cult leader picks one.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: He picks Helen, and you know that he takes the hair,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: which clearly there was no hair in his hair. I
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: love that scene when the guy is like taking the
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: hair and doing this, I'm like, oh, good, look no
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: hair and he puts it in his little thing. So
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I guess people, I've looked online and the Cold is
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: performing a black mass. Apparently that's what they were doing.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: What is a black mass? I didn't have time to
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: look it up because we went so quickly into this episode,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Like what is It's like mass but black like.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: But for Satan, which usually involves some sort of sacrifice
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: of some kind. So they're trying to sacrifice sacrificed a cat.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Oh god, I forgot about that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Such a weird random thing.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Like, look, I'm not a huge fan of cats, but geez,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: like he he he, I thought they killed a real
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: cat because he just cut him like in half and
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: that was blood going everywhere. So they interrupt this ceremony ritual,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: but it's too late. She's been cursed. So that's that's
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: like the connection I'm not getting is like, so if
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: they were going to sacrifice her, she just would have
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: been dead.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: No, they sacrificed the cat and then they were making
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: her into the bride.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's unclear whether or not they would have
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: ended up sacrificing her because they didn't have anything that
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: implied they were going to okay, or they were just
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: changing her because they bring her back later. They don't
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: sacrifice her then either she was just at the altar
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to make the other guys change and then they fuck
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: off into this.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is strange. Oh no, no, no, that's vampires, so sorry, no.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: But it is confusing that werewolf thing. They change literally
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: any given time. They're human for most of the night.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: There's no confirmation whether or not it has anything to
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: do with the werewolf with the moon or if it's
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: just Bill I fell asleep, so now were wolf.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that's what I'm saying. It's so unclear.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: There's not enough to connect the dots for me to
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: be like, this is exactly what happened, because it was
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I had a hard time following along this plot. And
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: that's exactly why I went to two B so I
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: could read what they were saying, because I couldn't, like
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: if I it's this movie from seventy one and the
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: audio is not the crispest or the cleanest. So it's like,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: that's why I need subtitles. And you know, I'm doing
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: my best, and like, Okay, they're just kind of sitting here.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: They're kind of sitting there trou At one point is
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: sitting with his arms out wide, you know, like his
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: mother taught him how to read cards, and he read
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: cards in the beginning and said we're all doomed or whatever.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I don't it's just I'm just I just wanted to
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: like this movie, have fun with it, but it couldn't
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: even deliver on its own name. And I feel like
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: that's the biggest flaw with this movie. I almost wanted
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: to give it a bump up in the rating because
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: it gave us werewolf on you know, like a werewolf
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: on a motorcycle. But I'm like, no, that's base level.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't be awarding points because it didn't for fifty
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: eight minutes and then it did. That doesn't make sense. Yeah,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: did you go through all your notes? Okay, we find
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: something else to talk about, because I want to try
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: and fill like ten more minutes here. Oh that's right,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: that's what I wanted to mention. We need to talk
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: about the desert scene where well, I mean sorry, sorry,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: they're driving through you know, back road in the desert
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden fog. Yeah, and then we
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: get to the end of that fog and there's a
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: random car and then they do this very weird shot
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: where the cameras at the back of the car and
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: they go in opposite directions, and I'm like, I don't
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: know what that was. And then all of a sudden,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: all the bikers are just in the middle of the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: sand dunes. Yeah, what happened there? I had to rewind
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: it because I was like, did I just fucking black out?
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I looked down for that part, and then I was like, wait,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: what all the girls are gone?
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, okay, yeah, and then they're just into sand
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: dunes and Adam's running around trying to figure out how
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: to get out of there. Okay, that didn't really make
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: any sort of sense at all, so I didn't. I didn't.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't get that. And then they somehow get back
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: on the road, and that's when Tirou and Adam have
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: that moment where I got again random points where I
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: laughed or Toro's like, we can't solve all our problem
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: with our fists, and then Adam just fucking haymakers him
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: in the side of the face to the point where
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: he's bleeding out the side of his head, and I
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, he solved that problem.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: And then they biked around some more and then they
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: had a fight, which I thought was funny. Is like, oh, guys,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: bike intermission before we get to fisticuffs.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, one, where did you come from? You were
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: laying on the ground when everyone left, was like.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Where the hell did he just come from? Was he
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: waiting for them somehow?
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah? And he didn't. He come from like the opposite
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: direction and just like tackled him off of his Like
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: what is going on? But again, let's I want to
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: go back to the monks too, because like monks are
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: are they traditionally they don't have they don't have sex,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: They're they're what is what is that called celibacy? They're
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: very pure, so they would not be Satanic worshippers, right, No.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: These are Satanic monks, not just like but is that then?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I know?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: But is that to use their wardrobe the exact same
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: wardrobe was a little confusing, however, not the first time
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I've seen that. So because I have seen and Buffy
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: They're the first evil has a lot of monks that
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: fight on it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: I guess these are just evil monks, Like do those
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: exist in movies and movies? So yeah, it's like I
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: didn't know there were satanic monks. I don't really know
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: how this curse works. Why were these bikers chosen? Was
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: it just random chance? You know, we see anyone else
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: can be infected. We didn't even get a freaking transfer. Well,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: we got kind of a transformation, you know. Adam falls
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: over and then just like pops up as full werewolves. Yeah.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: So when you don't have any rules, you don't really
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: necessarily have any stakes. You're not fleshing out these characters
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: enough for me to care about them, because every time
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: they interact with someone outside of the group, they're just
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: complete assholes to them. So it's like, why do I
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: like these people? I'm not really rooting for anybody except
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: for maybe Helen because I feel bad for her because
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: she was the one that got chosen by these monks
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: to be the bride of Satan, so I guess I'm
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: rooting for her. But then she just dies at the end.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: So it's like, well, there goes my favorite character, yep,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: snuffing her out right at the end.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: An doesn't die, she's just at the altar and then
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: they change and then they're gone. She's just kind of
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: standing there. She's kind of not dead so much as
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: she is not home.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Any did I miss something then, because both of them
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: got lit on fire.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: She was, Yeah, she was in a wedding dress. At
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the end of the movie, she was back in her
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: wedding dress, like standing at the altar or overlooking them
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: as they got changed and kind of like the lights
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: were on. But nobody's home.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, I guess they rolled around. I mean they were
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: in sand, so I guess they rolled around in the sand,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: and I just I just missed that. But I mean,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: this movie is an hour and twenty minutes, right, you
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: get the first glimpse of any sort of mon start
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: like thirty eight minutes in, and then you don't get
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: any ware wolf until about fifty eight minutes in, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: then you get the last five minutes of kind of
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: action packed. You know, I guess action, like the best
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: action of the movie. I don't know. It is such
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: a strange. It is such a strange movie. It's one
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: of those movies. It's like, it's all the wearof movies
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: this month have been highly rated by everybody, and this
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: is going to drag the entire month down with how
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: poorly rated it is by us, and then upsets me
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: because we were doing great with Wearwolf month. We were
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: coming off the kind of the low of Kai June
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: because it just got worse with every movie we did,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: and this movie has been a pretty ear This month
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: has been pretty strong, and then were Wolves on Wheels
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: had to come out and just do this. So yeah,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't really have much else to
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: say on this. This is gonna be a very short
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: episode and that's okay. I know.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I just was a short movie. It was an underdeveloped plot.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Sometimes there's not as much to say. And it's also
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: okay that it's not keeping up with the rest of
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the films, because the reality is not every film's a winner,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and you can't always have all the winners because who's
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about the ones that you should not watch?
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: That's true again, I just feel bad that people have
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: most likely watched this. I mean, hey, if you happen
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: to like this movie, that you know, that makes me happy.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: There is obviously an appeal for this movie because it's
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: got like a two seven like it doesn't have. Yes,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: it's not like a terrible rating. It's just mismarketed in
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: the way that they are. The name the poster is.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: It's not what you get you get motorcycle montages like
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I did like the beginning montage that was really cool,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: like they were doing tricks and standing up and I
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is fun. Okay. It kind of
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: established them, establishes them right off the bat as just
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: this rogue, fucking people. They gave me like nomadic vibes,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: like they were just out there living their best life,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: going to bars, getting drunk whatever. So I really did
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: like that opening. It was very it was fun. Yeah,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: and then you know, you know, ten twelve montages later
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: of them riding around with backing music. I'm like, all right,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: this just feels like an advertisement for Harley Davidson at
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: this point. So I mean, yeah, and it I try
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: to find the good and everything, and I know I've
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: said this is one of the worst movies I've seen
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: in quite some time, and it is true. Unfortunately, there's
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: it's so disconnected. It does not have enough built in lore,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: and mainly I think if it wasn't marketed as a well,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, Werewold's in it, but I'm saying if it wasn't,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You get an expectation in your head
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: when you see Werewolf in the title not even that, like, like,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: howel there's no it's no werewolf in the title, but
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: you know it's a werewolf movie.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: When you have werewolf in the title, you get a
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: certain specific idea in your head of things that should
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: be happening. None of those things are happening. So the
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: movie kind of shot itself in the foot because of
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: how it is presented to you, and then you go
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: watch it and you're like, this isn't even a werewolf movie. Yeah,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: it's it's confusing, you know.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the werewolf thing felt like almost an afterthought.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: It feels like there's more werewolf stuff happening in Van
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Helsing at this point. Oh there is, yeah, just like
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, there's google because there's yeah, because I
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: know there's vampires in that. There's werewolves obviously, even so
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: there's like there's like everything going on in there. They
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: mashed a whole bunch of ips together. So it's like,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: it just seems weird that a movie with werewolf in
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: the name. I mean, they delivered on the wheels part
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: for sure. There's a lot of wheels, for sure, a
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: lot of wheel I mean, no denying that, but you're right,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I really just want to take it from the monastery
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: and roll with it from there, because then you can,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: you know, you can do so much stuff with it. Also,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I do have a question, what was that scene when
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: they were walking into the monastery at the end and
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: seeing themselves in the hooded robes? Is that what was
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: going on?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I thought they were just looking at people other people.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Well, because they all walked in to do like they
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: all walked and raising something and then they saw someone
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: in a hooded robe, and I was like, are they
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: seeing themselves?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I thought that was them going under a trance like
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: they were going to attack, but they were already kind
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: of under the control. Monks really had activated that control.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: And I mean, you have this whole brotherhood too that
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: are I guess already wear wolves. They don't tell you
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: if the monks are werewolves, but.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: You can't think they are. No, No, I think they're
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: just servants of Satan.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: I really got to find the Satan werewolf connection because
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: if it's there, cool, But you did not make it
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: very apparent. Yeah, this is just one of those movies
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: where I'm not the target audience, and beyond not the
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: target audience. It just didn't It didn't do anything for me.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: So that's where I'm at with Werewolves on Wheels. Any
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: closing thoughts, feelings, opinions, noop, Yeah, I figured that so
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: my final thoughts here. Werewolves on movie is not a
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: good werewolf movie as it barely has any werewolf movie
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: at all going on. It feels exploitation ish and it's
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: built around, you know, like a very established horror like
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: horror monster, and they occasionally hint at the what the
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: movie could be throughout and before it ultimately just meanders
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: back to the bikers fucking around. The title itself is
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: great and the poster is great, but the film just
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: never lives up to any of that. So that's where
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I'm at. Also, Derek asked me to play. He sent
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: me over his thoughts since he was supposed to be
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: on this episode, so he has a thirty second and
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: a little clip of him saying his feelings and then
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: we'll move on.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: This movie gets one star for me, good sir, and
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you know that. I'm pretty sure this
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: was just an excuse to ride on motorcycles, but then
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: they decided they needed to add some sort of plot
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: to this motorcycle montage. There was one good scene, and
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: that is kind of sort of when they were transforming
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: the woman into that was that was kind of cool.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: But outside of that, this movie is a giant waste
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: of time and it is a motorcycle montage end of story.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: So there's steric thoughts on that. Let's move into the
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: final cut, all right, So taglines they met the Bride
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: of Satan. Life made them hard, The Devil made the monsters. Yeah, yeah,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: life made them hard. Okay, devil made the monsters. If
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: you're Harry, you belong on a motorbike. This gang thought
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: it was tough till it found a new type of hell. Well,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: the Bride of Satan Trivia. The bulk of the monks
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: were played by hippies from a local commune in California.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: That that sounds right. The gas station attendant out in
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: the desert was a local guy who the filmmaker persuaded
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: to play a small part in the movie. Also tracks.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, as soon as he was talking, I thought,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: he's really that dude. They must have gotten the guy
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: who owns the place.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The majority of the film was shot in various
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: locations without permits. Makes sense. You're in the middle of
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: the Desert and Severn Severn Darden improvised a lot of
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: his black Mass incantation yeah that tracks, and the quote
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: we all know how we're gonna die, baby, We're gonna
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: crash and burn is used by Rob Zombie and his
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: six in his song sick bubblegum Wow. So there you go.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Apparently he's a fan of this movie. Goose. There was
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: nothing of value outside of like continuity stuff, and I
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: don't care. So this is where it gets. Rough rated
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: four point three out of ten on IMDb, which is
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: equivalent to a two point one point five out of five.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: I have two point seven out of five on the letterbox,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: has a nil rating on the Tomato Meter, and twenty
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: four percent audience score. What did you give this?
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Two?
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Wow? Two? Okay, I give it a one. Yeah, So
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: that is man, this might be lower than Monster Seafood Wars.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Let's see one point nine to seven. I believe that
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: is just about I think Monster Seafood Wars because I
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: forgot to put it back on here is a one
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: point nine to one, but I will get with the
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: corrections department on that. So one point nine six out
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: of five good times Similar movies according to IMDb, we
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: have Don't Torture a Duckling, The Trip, The Slayer, Black Sabbath,
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: and the Brotherhood of Satan. That feels the most most fitting.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Similar movies according to the letterbox, we have The Devil's Reign, Psychomania,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: The Lords of Salem, Ghost Rider, Spirit of Revenge not
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: even the first one, and then House for a Thousand Corpses.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: So that's where we're at. Funny reviews. No, oh, you
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: really didn't get any No, I.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Finished it like four minutes before we recorded this. What
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: did you want from me?
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: All right, here we go.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Two stars from Cinema Void, Easy Rider now with seventy
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: percent more facial hair. Okay, that one didn't work for you?
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Got it? Got it? Got it? Two stars? Can film
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: survive the test of time on nothing but an amazing title?
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: And poster realizes he's logging Werewolves on wheels? Yes, but
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: you gave it two stars. So there's that. Five stars
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: from William hell Fire. Oh geez, one foot in heaven
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: and the other in hell. Do a little LSD with
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: the Devil movie movie.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I need to see what his Can you please look
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: up his?
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: It was top four? Oh, let's do it? I thought, yep, yep,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: all right, Top four. Okay, uh, children shouldn't play with
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: dead things?
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, mm hmm.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: From nineteen seventy two Godzilla, the Original, were Wolves on
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Wheels and the New York Ripper.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh that's.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: That's that's very special. But he at least gave back
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Rooms four to half stars, so he's got subtaste. That's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: oh man, I gotta follow him. That's that's some wild
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: shit where I think he might be the only person
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: with were wolves within damn it? Where wolves on Wheels
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: in in his top ten? I don't know, is there
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: is there a way you can like see no, damn it?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna follow him. It's so crazy because so
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: many people are giving this like four and a half stars,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: five stars, but yeah, one star, wildly one star from
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Jack wildly misleading. Where are the wolves get it?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I guess that's all I have. I don't know how
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: many reading, well, I don't know. You didn't get any.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you need to read twenty all right?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: I find one more one star from Zebra. The most
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: terrifying thing about this movie is that every song is
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: wildly offbeat. Jesus, Oh God, this movie is just gonna
• 1:01:10
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  Speaker 3: nineteen sixty three is our essential pick. It is on Prime, Apple, TV,
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  Speaker 3: Fandango and YouTube for three ninety nine. I find it
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: crazy that Hitchcock movie is that hard to find. Seems weird.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, for animalgus, we're not doing I said this before,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: We're not doing all crocodiles and sharks and shit. We're
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: doing animals that typically wouldn't be attacking, like birds. They
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: don't I mean, you know, you know anyways, So that's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be our essential pick for next month. I assume
• 1:02:19
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