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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Police Report That Exposed Him (Part 1-4) (11/7/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: In this episode we're going to begin taking a look
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  Speaker 1: at the original Palm Beach Police Report. And there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of redaction still in this report and that's because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them have to do with underage girls.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get to it. The original report. Reported by
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  Speaker 1: Michelle Pagan. Entered by Laura D. Orejero. On 3-14-2005, I
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  Speaker 1: received a call from a woman who did not wish
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  Speaker 1: to identify herself, later identified as redacted. She stated that
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  Speaker 1: her 14-year-old stepdaughter, later identified as redacted, possibly may have
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  Speaker 1: been molested in Palm Beach by a wealthy man. According
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  Speaker 1: to redacted, she learned of the possible molestation by a
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  Speaker 1: third party. She explained that she had received a call
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  Speaker 1: from the mother of her stepdaughter's friend. The mother claimed
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  Speaker 1: to have overheard a conversation between her daughter and a
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  Speaker 1: male friend. They were talking about Redacted. The conversation was
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  Speaker 1: about how Redacted had met with a 45-year-old man and
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  Speaker 1: had sex with him and was paid for it. I
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  Speaker 1: advised Redacted that I would like to meet with her
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  Speaker 1: to obtain a more detailed statement and facts. Redacted stated
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  Speaker 1: she did not know what to do and had to
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  Speaker 1: discuss the matter with her husband. At this point, Redacted
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  Speaker 1: did not provide me with a callback number or any
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  Speaker 1: other information and She stated that she would contact me
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  Speaker 1: once she had spoken with her husband and Redacted's mother.
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  Speaker 1: On March 14, 2005, I received a call from Mr.
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  Speaker 1: and Mrs. Redacted. They stated it was all right to
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  Speaker 1: speak to their daughter, Redacted via cell phone, Redacted. Her mother, Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: had been made aware of the case. They agreed to
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  Speaker 1: meet at the police department later this date. On 3-14-2005, Mr. Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: accompanied by his wife, Redacted, came to the Palm Beach
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  Speaker 1: Police Department, where they advised me that they believe that
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  Speaker 1: their 14-year-old daughter may have had some type of sexual
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  Speaker 1: relationship with an older man who resided in Palm Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Neither knew the suspect's name or address. Both stated that
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  Speaker 1: their daughter did not talk to them about the incident,
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  Speaker 1: nor would she admit to it. Redacted identified his daughter
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  Speaker 1: as Redacted White female, date of birth, redacted, resides with
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  Speaker 1: her biological mother, redacted, redacted, and is a twin. And
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  Speaker 1: her sister, redacted, resides with Mr. Redacted. Both redacted and
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  Speaker 1: redacted are currently attending redacted school, which is an involuntary
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  Speaker 1: admitted juvenile educational facility. Redacted stays at the facility during
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  Speaker 1: the week and comes home on the weekend. According to redacted,
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  Speaker 1: she was admitted to the school because of disciplinary problems
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  Speaker 1: that recently escalated. The facility also coordinates with families to
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  Speaker 1: provide one-on-one as well as family counseling. According to Ms. Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: she believes the incident occurred on Sunday, February 6, 2005.
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  Speaker 1: A friend of Redacted's named Haley picked her up at
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  Speaker 1: their house and left. They believe Haley initiated the relationship
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  Speaker 1: with the older gentleman, though they do not have any proof.
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  Speaker 1: Haley lives close by with her mother. Ms. Redacted further
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  Speaker 1: explained that Redacted was introduced to Haley by Redacted, a
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  Speaker 1: boy she was dating, goes to Redacted and plays baseball. Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted continued that on Sunday, Haley picked up Redacted and
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  Speaker 1: drove to Palm Beach where they met the man. Supposedly,
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  Speaker 1: the man had a lot of money and often has
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  Speaker 1: young girls come over to his house. Haley offers these
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  Speaker 1: girls a way to make fast cash. The man starts
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  Speaker 1: with a massage. If he likes them, he keeps them
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  Speaker 1: around and does more. The Redacted did not have any
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  Speaker 1: information on Haley other than she lives on Redacted, the
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  Speaker 1: last house on the right side, the north side. Miss
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  Speaker 1: Redacted talked of a conversation that she had had with Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: the mother of Redacted, a former friend of Redacted's. She
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  Speaker 1: found it strange that they were no longer friends until
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  Speaker 1: she received the call from her mother telling her of
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  Speaker 1: the conversation she overheard between Redacted and a boy named Redacted.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Redacted told me of an incident that occurred on
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  Speaker 1: 2-9-2005 Redacted got into a fight at school. Redacted, Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted's assistant principal, found over $ 300 in her purse. She
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  Speaker 1: gave a different explanation for the large sum of money. Initially,
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  Speaker 1: the school administration thought it was drug-related, but then dismissed
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  Speaker 1: the claim. Since that day, Redacted did not return to school.
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  Speaker 1: She ran away Thursday, 2-10, or Friday, 2-11, and returned
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  Speaker 1: to her mother's house later that night after midnight. It
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  Speaker 1: was not until after Redacted received the call from Redacted's
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  Speaker 1: mother that Redacted and that she learned that Redacted was
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  Speaker 1: the girl that got into the fight with Redacted. The
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  Speaker 1: fight was instigated when Redacted accused Redacted of being a prostitute. Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: who has legal joint custody of his daughter, Redacted signed
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  Speaker 1: the affidavit of prosecution indicating that he wished to prosecute
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  Speaker 1: against the inappropriate sexual behavior with his 14-year-old daughter. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted stated, that he had no objections with our agency
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  Speaker 1: speaking with his daughter about the incident. Mr. Redacted stated
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  Speaker 1: that Redacted's mother, Redacted is aware of all the allegations
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  Speaker 1: and also willing to cooperate. According to Ms. Redacted, she
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  Speaker 1: does not believe her daughter had any additional contact with
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  Speaker 1: the suspect as she was with her mother and placed
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  Speaker 1: into Redacted. I contacted the school board police who provided
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  Speaker 1: me the information for a whole block of Redacted, West
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  Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Florida. Checking the school board records for redacted
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  Speaker 1: and redacted, there was no disciplinary record found. I was
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  Speaker 1: advised if no disciplinary action was taken for a fight,
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  Speaker 1: such as an expulsion or detention, the incident may not
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  Speaker 1: have been recorded. This was at the discretion of the
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  Speaker 1: individual's school security and the principal. On 3-15-2005, I called
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  Speaker 1: the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office and left a message
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  Speaker 1: for PBSP Sergeant Chris Keene, Child Abuse Unit. On 3-15-2005,
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  Speaker 1: I went to Redacted, where I met with White Female Redacted.
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  Speaker 1: Also present was Redacted's therapist. During an audio-taped interview, I
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  Speaker 1: spoke with Redacted about the allegations that were made. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: initially denied. Anything that had happened only admitting to going
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  Speaker 1: with Haley, later identified as Haley Robson, to Palm Beach
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  Speaker 1: to pick up money, Robson was owed. Redacted identified Haley
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  Speaker 1: Robson as the cousin of her former boyfriend, Redacted. She
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  Speaker 1: ultimately admitted to knowing that Robson worked for a wealthy
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  Speaker 1: man and possibly did sexual favors for him. She also
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  Speaker 1: admitted that Robson had offered her an opportunity to make
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  Speaker 1: some money. Redacted identified Robson's boss as a white male
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  Speaker 1: named Jeff who lives in Palm Beach, later positively identified
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  Speaker 1: as Jeffrey Epstein. Redacted explained that she was first approached
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  Speaker 1: by Robson to go to Jeff's house when they were
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  Speaker 1: at Redacted's house. According to Redacted, she was not sure
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  Speaker 1: exactly what was going on with Robson, but agreed to
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  Speaker 1: go with her. Redacted's boyfriend became angry when he heard
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  Speaker 1: Robson inviting Redacted to accompany her. Redacted believed it was
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  Speaker 1: to pick up money the man owed Robson. Redacted stated
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  Speaker 1: Robson told her that she would pick her up at
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  Speaker 1: her house on Sunday. Redacted was not sure of the
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  Speaker 1: exact dates but knew it was a Sunday. According to Redacted, Robson,
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  Speaker 1: alongside with an unknown, possibly Hispanic female, picked her up
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  Speaker 1: at her father's house on Redacted, Redacted told her father
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  Speaker 1: that they were going shopping. It was later confirmed by
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  Speaker 1: Redacted that Robson picked his daughter up. According to Mr. Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: Robson picked her up in a truck. Robson drove Redacted
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  Speaker 1: along with the unknown female to Palm Beach. Sometime on
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  Speaker 1: the way there, a conversation occurred between Robson and Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: whereby Robson told Redacted that if Jeff asked her Redacted's age,
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  Speaker 1: she should say she was 18. Redacted recalled that Jeff's
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  Speaker 1: house was on a dead-end street. All three girls walked
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  Speaker 1: up a driveway past what appeared to be a small
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  Speaker 1: guard or security room. In fact, Redacted recalled a male
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  Speaker 1: approaching them asking what they wanted. Robson stated that they
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  Speaker 1: were there to see Jeff. The mail allowed them to
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  Speaker 1: continue walking up to the house. Redacted stated that the
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  Speaker 1: man told them that Epstein was not there, but he
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  Speaker 1: was expected back. He allowed them to enter the house
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  Speaker 1: via the kitchen. He offered them something to drink while
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  Speaker 1: they waited inside. Shortly after, Epstein and a woman described
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  Speaker 1: as white with blonde hair entered the kitchen. Redacted believed
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  Speaker 1: the woman was Epstein's assistant and added that the woman
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  Speaker 1: did not seem friendly and kept her responses short and direct.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein introduced himself to Redacted as Jeff. Redacted got the
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  Speaker 1: impression that Epstein and Robson's friend knew each other. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: described Epstein as being approximately 45 years old, a long face,
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  Speaker 1: and bushy eyebrows with graying hair. Robson and Epstein left
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen leaving Redacted and Robson's friend alone in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 1: They returned a short time later. They all spoke briefly
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen. While speaking to me, Redacted became upset
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  Speaker 1: and started to cry. Redacted stated the woman instructed her
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  Speaker 1: to follow her upstairs, which she did. According to Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: the woman led her to a room that had a
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  Speaker 1: massage table in it. The woman started to fix up
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  Speaker 1: the room, putting the covers on the table and taking
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  Speaker 1: lotions out. She then told Redacted that Epstein would be
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  Speaker 1: up in a second. The woman left the room and
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  Speaker 1: soon after, Epstein walked in and told Redacted to take
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  Speaker 1: off her clothes. As Redacted was telling me, What had happened,
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  Speaker 1: she looked away from me and with a pointed finger
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  Speaker 1: repeatedly pressed into her thigh. Redacted stated he was stern
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  Speaker 1: and he told her to take off her clothes. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: said she did not know what to do as she
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  Speaker 1: was the only one there. Redacted took off her shirt,
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  Speaker 1: leaving her bra on. Epstein, dressed in a towel, told
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  Speaker 1: her to take off everything. Redacted stated she removed her pants,
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  Speaker 1: leaving her thong panties on. Epstein then instructed her to
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  Speaker 1: give him a massage pointing to a specific location for
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  Speaker 1: her to use. Epstein laid on the table, face down.
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  Speaker 1: As Redacted began to give Epstein the massage, he told
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  Speaker 1: her to get on his back. Redacted stated that she
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  Speaker 1: straddled herself on Epstein's back. Redacted stated her exposed buttocks
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  Speaker 1: was touching Epstein's bare buttocks. As Redacted was giving Epstein
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  Speaker 1: a massage, he turned around and whacked off and later
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  Speaker 1: explained that whacking off was masturbating. Redacted stated she was
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  Speaker 1: disgusted by Epstein's actions but did not say anything. According
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  Speaker 1: to Redacted, Epstein told her that she had a really
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  Speaker 1: hot body. Epstein excused himself and went to the bathroom
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  Speaker 1: where she believed he masturbated again. Epstein returned to the
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  Speaker 1: room and told Redacted that he was done and gave
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  Speaker 1: her $ 300. They went back downstairs where they met Robson.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein said goodbye and they left. Robson asked how did
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  Speaker 1: it go and asked what did she, Redacted, do. When
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  Speaker 1: Redacted told Robson that Epstein asked for a massage, Robson
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  Speaker 1: allegedly stated, I know. Redacted stated that they then went shopping.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted stated Robson also got paid, but that she did
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  Speaker 1: not know why, since she was confident that Robson did
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  Speaker 1: not do anything. Redacted described Epstein's house as a two-story
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  Speaker 1: pink house with a Cadillac Escalade parked in the driveway.
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  Speaker 1: There were gates leading into the property. From the kitchen,
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  Speaker 1: redacted recalled walking up a flight of stairs lined with
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  Speaker 1: photographs to a room. Upon entering the room, there was
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  Speaker 1: a large bathroom to the right. Redacted recalled a hot
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  Speaker 1: pink and green sofa in that room. There was a
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  Speaker 1: door on each side of the sofa. Redacted recalled there
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  Speaker 1: being murals of a naked woman in the room, as
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  Speaker 1: well as several photographs of naked women on the shelf.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted stated Epstein did not change in front of her,
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  Speaker 1: but did take off his towel, exposing himself. Redacted recalled
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  Speaker 1: Epstein being hairy, especially on his chest. Epstein also had
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  Speaker 1: a hairline that continued to his buttocks. Redacted admitted to
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  Speaker 1: seeing his penis. I asked her if she knew what
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: being circumcised meant, and she stated no. Redacted then said
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  Speaker 1: that she thought that Epstein was on steroids because he
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  Speaker 1: was a really built guy and his wee-wee was very tiny.
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  Speaker 1: Hold up a minute here. Hang on. Back up a minute.
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  Speaker 1: His wee-wee was very tiny. Let's just say that one
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  Speaker 1: more time to get it on the record. His wee-wee
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  Speaker 1: was very tiny. She meant penis. Redacted stated Epstein exposed
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  Speaker 1: himself when he took off his towel and placed it
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  Speaker 1: on the floor as he laid down on the table.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted said Epstein was specific in his instructions to her
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  Speaker 1: on how to massage, telling her to go clockwise, etc.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted recalled that Epstein got up from the table and
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  Speaker 1: went to the bathroom, where she heard him making what
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  Speaker 1: she believed to be sexual-type noises. Moaning. He then returned
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  Speaker 1: to the room, where he again laid down on the table.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein then turned over and instructed Redacted to massage his boobs.
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  Speaker 1: As she did this, Epstein continued to make moaning noises.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted resumed massaging his chest area. Redacted was now standing
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  Speaker 1: on the ground. Epstein turned to his side and, with
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  Speaker 1: a towel on the ground, started to rub his penis
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  Speaker 1: in an up-and-down motion. Get your barf bags out, folks.
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  Speaker 1: Holy shit. Redacted stated Epstein held on to the small
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  Speaker 1: of her back as he massaged his chest, back and
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  Speaker 1: shoulders area. Redacted recalled Epstein ejaculating because he had to
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  Speaker 1: use a towel to wipe himself as he got off
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  Speaker 1: the table. Redacted also recalled Epstein having a noticeable freckle
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  Speaker 1: on his chest. All right, folks, we're going to wrap
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  Speaker 1: up with episode one right here. And in the next episode,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to pick up where we left off. All
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  Speaker 1: of the information that goes with this episode can be
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: found in the description box. What's up everyone and welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're picking
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  Speaker 1: back up where we left off with that Palm Beach
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  Speaker 1: police report. So get them barf bags ready, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: need them. Epstein then left the room and Redacted got dressed.
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  Speaker 1: She went back downstairs where she met Haley and the
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  Speaker 1: unknown white female. Redacted admitted to getting paid $ 300 in
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  Speaker 1: cash from Epstein before they left. Epstein asked Redacted to
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  Speaker 1: leave her phone number. As they were leaving the house,
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  Speaker 1: Haley asked Redacted what had happened and how much she
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  Speaker 1: was paid. Redacted stated Haley seemed upset or jealous when
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  Speaker 1: she told her that she received $ 300. Haley stated she
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  Speaker 1: received only $ 200 that day. Redacted stated that she believed
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  Speaker 1: Haley was paid $ 200 for bringing her. Robson told Redacted
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  Speaker 1: that if they do this every Saturday, they could be rich.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted agreed. They then went shopping, though she is not
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  Speaker 1: sure where, possibly at TJ Maxx or Marshalls. Redacted stated
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  Speaker 1: she had never saw Robson again as she got into
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  Speaker 1: a fight at school. She had not spoken with Robson
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  Speaker 1: either as her mother took away her cell phone. I
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  Speaker 1: asked Redacted if she was aware of any video equipment
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  Speaker 1: while she was in the room, and she stated no.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted stated, that she was afraid that Robson would retaliate
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  Speaker 1: against her or her family if she ever went to
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  Speaker 1: the police regarding the incident. Redacted stated that her father's
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: vehicle was recently vandalized. Redacted admitted to telling Redacted what
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: had happened with Epstein, according to Redacted, became angry and upset,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: punching a hole in the wall. Redacted guessed that it
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: was Redacted who told Redacted about the incident, and now
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: there were rumors in school about Redacted and what she
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  Speaker 1: did with Epstein. I then talked to Redacted about truth
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  Speaker 1: and lying. We talked about the color sweater she was wearing.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted denied having sexual intercourse with Epstein. She denied touching
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  Speaker 1: his penis. Redacted again admitted to observing Epstein masturbate. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: agreed to cooperating with the police department and placing a
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  Speaker 1: phone call to Robson in a controlled setting. I met
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  Speaker 1: with Ms. Redacted and advised her of the families as
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  Speaker 1: well as Redacted's willingness to cooperate with the investigation. Copies
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  Speaker 1: of this interview were placed into evidence. I made contact
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  Speaker 1: with Redacted's mother of Redacted. I advised her briefly of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: my investigation. She was aware of the incident and stated
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  Speaker 1: that she overheard a portion of a conversation that her
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: daughter was having with a boy named Redacted. Redacted stated
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  Speaker 1: that it was her opinion that both girls liked Redacted
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  Speaker 1: and Redacted recalled hearing her daughter calling Redacted a whore.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted admitted that she did not listen to the entire
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  Speaker 1: conversation and but did confront her daughter about it later.
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  Speaker 1: She told her mother that something to the effect that
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Redacted had slept with an older man for money. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: stated that she would not object to me speaking with
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: her daughter. It was Redacted's belief that everyone in the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: school may have known about this because of the fight
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that her daughter, Redacted and Redacted, had gotten into. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: reminded Redacted that this was an ongoing investigation and requested
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  Speaker 1: she not discuss the fact that I had contacted her.
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  Speaker 1: She agreed. On the 16th of March, 2005, PBSO Sergeant
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  Speaker 1: Chris Keene left a message that was returning my call.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke with Keene and discussed the case with him
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  Speaker 1: and inquired if he had any open allegations or cases
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  Speaker 1: where the suspect resided in Palm Beach. Keene stated he
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  Speaker 1: was unaware of any. Keene offered any assistance if needed.
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  Speaker 1: Keene stated it was his experience that due to the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: age of the parties involved, it would be difficult to
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  Speaker 1: interview them and expect the investigation to remain confidential. Because
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  Speaker 1: of the time delay, there was no need for the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: victim to be taken to a medical facility for a
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: physical for the purpose of obtaining evidence. There was also
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: no need to take her to a CPT as she
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: was already in juvenile facility with an assigned therapist. in
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  Speaker 1: which coordinating a day and time to obtain internet and
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  Speaker 1: obtained a photo of Epstein to be used in a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: photo lineup, I met with redacted, at which time she
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: viewed the photo lineup, she immediately recognized Epstein and pointed
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  Speaker 1: to him in position 5. Redacted signed the photo line
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  Speaker 1: up under Epstein's picture. This signed lineup was placed into evidence.
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  Speaker 1: On 3-18-2005, I met with redacted at her residence for
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the purpose of placing a control call to Haley Robson.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Redacted spoke with Robson and asked if she could arrange
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: another meeting with Jeff. Robson stated that she would have
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to call him and make the arrangements. A copy of
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  Speaker 1: this conversation was placed into evidence. On 3-19-2005, I spoke
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  Speaker 1: with Redacted and Redacted and was advised that Redacted left
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the state to visit with her aunt and uncle. Redacted
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: is scheduled to return to Florida on 3-17-2005. 3-21-2005. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: coordinated with PB, BSF Unit, and OC Van to initiate
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: surveillance on 358 El Brío Way. On 3-21-2005, coordinated with
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Detective Lee regarding trash pulls from 358 El Brío. On
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: this same date, I called Redacted to schedule an appointment
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to speak with Redacted. She stated the school guidance counselor
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: was reluctant to have police present at the school. I
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: assured her that I would respond to the school in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: civilian clothes and an unmarked vehicle. redacted called me back
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and advised that I did not need to make an
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: appointment to see Redacted. I received a return phone call
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: from Redacted stating that Redacted would be attending the family
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: therapy sessions with Redacted. I received messages from Redacted I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: conducted a computer query on Epstein. The results of this
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: query indicated the most recent driver license on file for
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Epstein was for the state of Florida, which had expired.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: A cross-reference of Epstein's residence, 358 El Brio, Palm Beach,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: revealed the following affiliated names, Nadia Marcinkova, Mark L. Epstein,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Ghislaine N. Maxwell. A computer query for both returned no history.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: On 3-23-2005, I spoke with Redacted's cell phone. Redacted, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: requested that she did not discuss the incident with anyone,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: including her daughter, Redacted, as I did not want the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: investigation compromised. I was told at this time that Redacted
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and Redacted had not been getting along due to the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: fact that Redacted has decided to continue living with her father.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: On 329, I placed telephone calls to both the Redacted
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and Redacted residences requesting to speak with them regarding... the investigation.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I received return phone calls from Ms. Redacted and Ms.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Redacted and advised them that I would be contacting Redacted's
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: family therapist to coordinate a time to meet with Redacted.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: This was at the request of both Redacted and Ms.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Redacted that Redacted's strict classroom and therapy schedule be disrupted
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: as little as possible. I also updated them to my
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: investigation thus far. Both Redacted and Redacted stated they had
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: no objection to my meeting with Redacted and speaking with Ms. Redacted.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: She identified the cell phone number of Redacted as being
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the number assigned to Redacted. Ms. Redacted had no objection
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and provided consent to giving it to the police department
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: for the use of placing controlled phone calls from it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated the phone had been taken away from Redacted
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: as part of her punishment for not doing well in school.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: According to Redacted, Redacted used to be an excellent student,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: but in the past two months has become irritable, verbally
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: abusive to the family, and has run away. Redacted stated
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: her daughter's recent behavior is opposite of what she normally is.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated they are going through family therapy sessions with
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the school, but none of this had come up. Arrangements
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: were made for Detective Captain Gudger to retrieve the cell
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: phone from Redacted at her place of employment. I called
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Redacted and Redacted and requested to speak with Ms. Redacted.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Upon speaking with Ms. Redacted, she advised me that she
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: was in the middle of therapy sessions and would call
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: me back once the sessions were completed. Ms. Redacted stated
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the sessions should be concluded by 7 p.m. At approximately
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: 8 p.m., I had called Ms. Redacted, at which time
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I left a message on her voicemail requesting a return
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: phone call. I spoke with Ms. Redacted and advised her
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that I did not meet with her daughter and that
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I would again attempt to coordinate a time with the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: counselors so not to disrupt the school schedule. Redacted had
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: no objections. Shortly after speaking with Ms. Redacted, I received
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a call from Ms. Redacted. I explained the situation and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: requested a time to meet with Redacted, reviewed Redacted's schedule,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and advised that Redacted would be available after 3 p.m.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: On 3-30-2005, I met with Ms. Redacted and Redacted at Redacted.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I reminded Redacted of her conversation with Robson. During this time,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Redacted initiated a conversation with me in which she admitted
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that she was not telling me everything that had happened
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: during the time she was alone with Epstein. According to Redacted,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: while she and Epstein were alone on the second floor,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Epstein used a purple vibrator to massage her vaginal area.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated, There was no penetration as the vibrator was
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: on top of her underwear. I asked Redacted if Epstein
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: ever asked her age and she stated he had. Redacted
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: stated she told him she was 18. When Epstein asked
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: what school she was in, Redacted responded that she was
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: in 12th grade at Wellington. During the course of this incident,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated Epstein told her that Haley had worked for
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: him for years. We then continued with the control call
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to Robson at approximately 3.35 p.m. Redacted, from her cell phone,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: made a call to Robson's home. Robson was not home.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Redacted was told that Haley Robson was working a double
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and could be reached on her cell phone. Redacted, Haley
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Robson is employed at the Olive Garden restaurant located on
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Forest Hills Boulevard in Wellington. Redacted called Robson. During the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: conversation between Haley Robson and Redacted, Robson asked Redacted what happened.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: stating that she had heard rumors that Redacted was going
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to press charges. Robson asked if they, meaning Redacted's parents,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: knew about Jeffrey. Robson claimed to have heard that Redacted's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: father had found out about Epstein. Redacted told Robson that
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: her parents did not know anything about Epstein. Robson told
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Redacted that Epstein needed someone to work tomorrow and asked
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: if she was available. Robson stated that she would call
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Epstein and then call Redacted back. During the course of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: these conversations with Redacted, she would, at times, appear to
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: be articulate and well-spoken. She would then start to act
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: in an immature manner by looking around, not paying attention,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: drawing on paper. Redacted would offer me a high-five whenever
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: she claimed to have told me the truth in the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: details of the afternoon at Epstein's house. Redacted would sit
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: in the chair with her knees propped up to her
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: chest as she admitted that she did not tell me
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: all the details of her encounter with Epstein during our
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: first meeting. As a means of positive reinforcement, I would
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: high-five redacted. On the 31st of March 2005, subpoena requests
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: for T-Mobile Wireless redacted and Singular Wireless redacted Robson redacted
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: phone numbers were drafted. On 4-1-2005, I met with members
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of PBBSF unit for the purpose of conducting surveillance on
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: 358 El Brío Way. Cross-reference supplement. On 4-1-2005, I met
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: with Detective Crowell of the Palm Beach Police Department who
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: provided me a copy of the concealed weapons permit for Mr. Epstein.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: It revealed Epstein had a valid permit. There was no
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: current photo attached to the renewal notice. On this same date,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I queried various different websites for possible identification of the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: purple item retrieved from the trash pull from 358 El Brio.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: The item was similar in description as the one described
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: by Redacted and used by Epstein. I made contact with SpicyGear.com
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and spoke with owner John. I emailed a photograph of
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the item for his opinion. He identified the items as
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a jelly anal wand of some sort. The item is
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: easily available at sex shops in South Florida. On 4-6-2005,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I conducted business queries into Epstein utilizing the internet. I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: located articles relating to financial reports. There was no local history.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: On 4-1-2005 through 4-3-2005, with the assistance of BSF, there
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was continued surveillance on the property. On 4-4-2005, I obtained
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a copy of a voicemail message dated 3-31 and 4-1
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: from Haley Robson to Redacted. A female identifying herself as
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Haley states that she could pick up Redacted and take
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: her to Epstein's house for an 11 o'clock appointment. A
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: copy of this was placed into evidence. All right, folks,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up with part two right there,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and then the next episode we'll pick up where we
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: left off. All the information that goes with this episode
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: we're going to continue on taking a look at the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach police report from the first initial investigation into
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. So let's dive right back in. 4-5-25. A
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: trash pull was conducted at 358 El Brío Way by
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Detective Lee and me. There were several messages written on
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: various forms of papers. There was a message from Haley
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: indicating redacted 11 o'clock. The following was additional information obtained
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: from the trash retrieved from 358 El Brío Way. Jean-Luc,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: 6-20 a.m. David, redacted. Sarah Kellan, redacted. Redacted, redacted, and redacted. Haley,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a message receipt dated 4-4 at 1-0-5, redacted. She is
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: looking to speak to you, redacted. On 4-6-2005, I faxed
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: subpoena requests to S.A. Mingdahl's office for Epstein, Robson, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: redacted's phone records. Redacted's phone records and redacted's phone records.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: On 4-6-2005, I called Redacted Extension Redacted and spoke with
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Principal Redacted. He confirmed that they had a student by
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that name, and he requested a written request prior to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: releasing any additional information. On the same date, I faxed
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: a request for a student and parent information on Redacted,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and I advised Redacted that due to this being an
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: open investigation, he was not to discuss the matter with anyone.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: On 4-8-2005, I received a message from Redacted providing me
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the following information. Redacted. date of birth, Redacted, Wellington, Florida, Redacted,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: parent's name, Redacted. Detective Lee provided me with trash obtained
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: from 358 El Brio 446-4705. The following information was retrieved.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Jet Aviation, Redacted itinerary, indicating a departure date of 4-5-2005
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: at 4 p.m., with an arrival in New York City
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of 6-15 p.m. Flight Crew Captain David Rogers, Co-Captain Larry Vesoski,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Flight Engineer Larry Morrison, Call Sign N6-08-JE. A note stating,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: By J, Thank you redacted handwritten notes and messages, 11-Glen-1230-Chicken
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: redacted for September B & J big screen, times 8, redacted,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: works Sunday and Monday after school, left message for redacted,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: redacted and redacted works 4-9 on Monday and Tuesday, leaves
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: school at 11.30am, redacted will be here tomorrow at 10.30am,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: missed business, redacted redacted, there was no trash for 4-8-0-5.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: So that's all the stuff that they yanked out of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the trash when they did that trash pull. 4-22-05. I
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: received the results of a subpoena request from Bell South
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: for Redacted. The results only provided subscriber information. I contacted
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Alice Grant Investigative Subpoena Compliance Center, who stated the request
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: was not complete and the results would be sent to
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: me as soon as the query was finished. Cross-referencing the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: names Redacted and Redacted, as well as phone numbers, which
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: were obtained from message notes via Trash Pulls, I identified
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the before-mentioned individuals as being acquainted with someone at 358
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: El Brio, redacted, date of birth, 1984, Florida, driver license
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: number redacted and redacted, date of birth, 1986, Florida, driver's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: license redacted, and both are above the legal age of consent.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: On 5-3-2005, I spoke with redacted and updated her on
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the investigation. Redacted stated that She was doing well in
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the school. Her contact with the outside is limited as
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: they do not have access to the phones. Redacted comes
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: home on weekends and she is not allowed to go
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: anywhere alone. On 5-11-2005, I made arrangements to meet with
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Redacted and Redacted. On Thursday, 5-12-05, I spoke with Redacted
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: regarding the case. They will be moving to GA in
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: July 2005. They will be very busy over the next
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: few weeks, but would be available via phone. We'll coordinate
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a date to meet to discuss the matter further. During
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: this week, I conducted surveillance at Epstein's residence and at
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the airport, but there was nothing to indicate that Epstein
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: was in town. Due to conflicting appointments, rescheduled until 6-2-2005
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to meet with Ms. Redacted. I also spoke with Redacted
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and updated her to the investigations. On 6-2-2005, I met
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: with Redacted and Redacted, and Redacted advised that she could
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: be reached via her cell phone until she is able
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to provide me with her new contact information. I also
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: received a message from Redacted, attempted to call back but
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the line was busy. June 14, 2005, I received information
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that Epstein's plane was at Jet Aviation. I spoke with
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Detective Lee regarding surveillance. I called the Olive Garden and
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: asked for Haley Robson. I was advised she was not
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: working today. This would indicate that Robson was still employed there.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: On 7-7-2005, I faxed a subpoena request to S.A. Minghal's
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: office for Epstein, Robson, and redacted its phone records, phone numbers,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: redacted and redacted. The original subpoena request only provides subscribed
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and billing information. On 7-20-2005, I conducted a trash pull
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: arranged by OFC Officer Lee inside... There were miscellaneous papers
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: with phone numbers and names. There were miscellaneous female hygiene
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: products in the trash. Based on a prior AutoTrack report
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: done on 358 El Brío, a possible subject residing at
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the residence is Nadia Marcinkova. Marcinkova fit the description provided
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: by officers who had conducted surveillance in the area of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: a female seen entering and leaving the residence. On 7-21-05-2011,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I received the Deuces Techum dated 7-18-05, which was clerked
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: by ASO. On 7-26-2005, I received the results of the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Bell South subpoena. On 8-4-05, I received DHL Express from
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: T-Mobile with the results of the query. I spoke with
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a redacted who confirmed that redacted was still living out
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of state. It appeared that all was going well. I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: left a message for redacted at redacteds. On 8-8-2005, I
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: received the results of singular cell phone subpoena during the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: week of 9-8-2005. I checked 358 El Brio and the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach International Airport, but there was no direct indication
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: that Epstein was in town. On 9-8-2005, I reviewed the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: case notes of this file as the case will be
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: turned over to Detective Rakari. On 9-11-2005, while on patrol,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I conducted a check at Epstein's residence and found that
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it still had the hurricane shutters on. On a drive
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: by the Palm Beach International Airport later that afternoon, I
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: did not observe Epstein's plane. On 9-14-2005, I conducted a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: check at the Palm Beach International Airport, but did not
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: see Epstein's plane. On 9-19-2005, I spoke with Redacted to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: keep her updated and to find out if there was
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: any change of address or phone numbers for Redacted, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I was told no. I left a message for Redacted
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: at Redacted's in order to provide her with Detective Rakari's information.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And then now we move on to Detective Rakari and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: his narrative as far as being the detective in charge.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: On September 19th, 2005, I met with Officer Pagan and
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: received the information pertaining to this case. Members of the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: burglary strike force had previously been conducting surveillance on both
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Epstein and Robson. Officer Munyon was assigned to monitor the
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Epstein home and Sergeant Sorge and Officer Minot were assigned
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to monitor Robson. Both teams provided a surveillance log that
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: will be placed into the attachment file. Detective Dawson was
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: assigned to relieve Officer Munyon at 4 p.m. He informed
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: me that at approximately 8 p.m. Epstein had left for
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the airport. and his private jet was sitting on the tarmac.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Epstein's private vehicle drove to the jet and unloaded packages
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: into the jet. It appeared that Epstein left the country
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: at this time. Surveillance will continue to determine when Epstein
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: will return. Report by Parkinson Gregory On Friday, September 23, 2005,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: at approximately 1.45 p.m., I began to copy a tape
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: microcassette under case number 05-368 and property number 05-243, tape
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: number 1. I placed the tape in the telex copy
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: at approximately 1.5 through the tape. The tape wrapped around
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the spindle and became locked and stretched the tape. I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: examined it and determined that it was in the best
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: interest to leave it as it is, as a prior
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: copy had been made and turned over to Sgt. Frick.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I immediately took the tape to Sergeant Frick and allowed
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: him to examine it and then obtained the copy from
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: him and Detective Ricari and brought the copy of the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: tape down and made a copy for him based on that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: The tape was placed back in the original container and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: is retained in the evidence bag under the previously mentioned
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: property number of 05-243. It is not advisable to attempt
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: to copy this tape as further damage could result to
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the recorded material and there is an existing copy anyway.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: The next statement is by Parkinson once again. On 3-24-05
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: at 11 p.m., a copy of tape number 2, case
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: number 05-294, had been made for Detective Pagan by evidence
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: specialist Annette Badger. The copy was turned over to Detective Ricari.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: On Friday, 9-23-05 at approximately 2-15 p.m., I was in
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the process of reproducing audio tapes, micro and standard, to
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: standard size when it was discovered in the test review
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: process that tape number two was blank. I notified Sergeant
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Frick and Detective Ricari. I was informed that they had
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a prior copy and I could use it to make
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: a master tape. I did so and when reviewing and
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: signing the evidence sheet, I noticed evidence specialist Badger had
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: written number two as blank. I obtained that copy from
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Detective Ricari and made a new copy on a standard
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: size tape. The new copy was placed in the evidence
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: bag Under property number 05-294 with the blank tape. Alright folks,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up this episode right here. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: in the next episode, we're going to pick up where
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: we left off. All of the information that goes with
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: this episode can be found in the description box. What's
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to continue taking a look at
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that Palm Beach police report from the original Epstein Chronicles. arrest.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And to do that, we're picking back up with the
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: narrative of Joseph Ricari. Copies of the tapes that were
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: submitted into evidence were requested. Additionally, trash pulls were started
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: on September 21st, 2005. Sergeant Czarski made telephone contact with
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Tony Higgins, supervisor of the sanitation department, and requested that
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: trash be collected at the Epstein house located at 358
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: El Brío in Palm Beach. Sergeant Czarski. met with sanitation
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: worker Jeff Williams and observed him enter this property at
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: 358 El Brío. Shortly thereafter, Williams exited the property and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: placed the three white trash bags in the empty well
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: in the rear of the truck. Williams then drove away,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: where he met with Sergeant Sosarsky, who removed the bags
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: from the well and placed them into one large black
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: trash bag. The bag was returned to the police station
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: where I was waiting for him. Upon his arrival, we
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: inspected the bags where several notes and papers were found.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: These notes contained names of girls with times, and additionally,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: there was a note from Redacted and Redacted to Jeffrey
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Epstein on a notepad, which stated, for a good time,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: call Redacted and Redacted at Redacted. Also, there was another
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: telephone number on the note. Redacted also found was a
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: written note which stated Redacted cannot come at 7 p.m.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: tomorrow because of soccer. These items were written on notepads
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that contain Jeffrey Epstein on the bottom of the notes.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: These items were placed into evidence. For future follow-up, I
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: requested subpoenas for subscriber information on the telephone numbers listed
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: above on the note from Redacted and Redacted. The cellular telephone,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Redacted and Redacted, are both assigned to Singular Cellular Service.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Other notes were found within the trash on Jeffrey Epstein's pad,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: papers that contain telephone numbers. One note had redacted with
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: redacted service. Another sheet had written redacted, which is assigned
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: to Bell South Telecommunications. The subpoenas were picked up and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: submitted to Singular and Bell South Telecommunications for subscriber information.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: On September 22, 2005, I was informed by Sergeant Czarski
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that there would be no trash pickup as it was
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: recycle pickup day. A request for copies of the micro
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and standard-sized cassettes were requested from Crime Scene to familiarize
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: myself with the interviews conducted. On September 23, 2005, the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: tapes were received and I began to become familiar with
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the interviews that were conducted. Detective Kroll had met with Tom,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: a Palm Beach sanitation worker, Jeff Williams and observed him
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: enter the property of 358 El Brio. Shortly thereafter, Williams
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: exited the property and placed the three white trash bags
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: in the empty well in the rear of the truck.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Williams then drove away, where he met with Detective Kroll,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: who removed the bags from the well and placed them
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: into one large black trash bag. The bag was returned
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to the police station, where I was waiting for him.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Upon his arrival, we inspected the bags, where several notes
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and papers were found. The notes will be inspected for
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: future use. The items collected were placed into evidence. It
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: became evident that some of the recordings were recorded with
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: background noise and some interference. The calls most affected were
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the control phone calls from the victim to the suspect,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Haley Robson. I obtained the graphic equalizer and discovered that
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: the calls are able to be legible with the use
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: of the equalizer by lowering the background noise and increasing
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: voice gain. I also learned that a tape was broken
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: during the copying of the tape. I returned the copy
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of the tape marked property number 05-243 to have it
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: copied to have an original in evidence and a working
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: copy with the file. Upon researching the file, it was
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: discovered that the suspect Haley Robson's cellular calls were subpoenaed incorrectly.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: The suspect's telephone number was redacted and the original request
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: was for redacted. I requested the information through singular cellular
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: service from February 2005 through the present. The purpose was
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to have a record of Robson making calls to the victim,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, and the frequency of the calls. The request
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: was submitted to the state attorney's office. The investigation continues.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: The next narrative is from Curtis Crowell, who's one of
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the other detectives. On or about September 23, 2005, at approximately...
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: 0915 hours, I responded to 358 El Brio and met
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: with PB sanitation worker Jeff Williams. Williams had been previously
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: notified to assist in trash pulls at the residence of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, 358 El Brio, Palm Beach, Florida. I observed
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Williams enter the driveway of 358 El Brio and remove
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: several plastic bags of trash and place the contents into
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the back of an empty sanitation truck. I then followed
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Williams to the predetermined location and seized the trash from
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the truck. The trash was transported to the Palm Beach
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Police Department, where I began sifting through its contents. There
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: was a total of four white, in-color plastic bags, and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: each contained documentation and correspondence from 358 El Brio and
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. All documents of evidentiary value were removed and
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: turned over to Detective Ricari for follow-up. On or about
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: September 26, 2005, At approximately 0900 hours, I responded to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: 358 El Brio and met with PB sanitation worker Jesse Jones.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Jones had previously been notified to assist in trash pulls
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: at the residence of Jeffrey Epstein, 358 El Brio, Palm Beach, Florida.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I observed Jones enter the driveway of 358 El Brio
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: where no trash was located within the receptacles. I left
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the area without incident and notified Detective Ricari to that effect.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: On or about September 27, 2005, at approximately 0915 hours,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I responded to 358 El Brio and met with PB
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: sanitation worker Jesse Jones. I observed Jones enter the driveway
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of 358 El Brio and remove one plastic bag of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: trash and place it in the back of an empty
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: sanitation truck. I then followed Jones to a predetermined location
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and seized the trash from the truck. The trash was
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: transported to the Palm Beach Police Department where I began
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: sifting through its contents. There was a total of one white,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: in-color plastic bag, which contained correspondence for 358 El Brio.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: All documents of evidentiary value were removed and turned over
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: to Detective Ricari for follow-up. On or about Monday, October 3rd, 2005,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: at approximately 0915 hours, I responded to 358 El Brio
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and met with PB sanitation worker Jeff Williams. I observed
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Williams enter the driveway of 358 El Brio and remove
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: several plastic bags and trash and place the contents into
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the back of an empty sanitation truck. I then followed
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Williams to a predetermined location and seized the trash from
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: the truck. The trash was transported to the Palm Beach
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Police Department where I began sifting through its contents. There
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: was a total of seven white in-color plastic bags with
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: red tie and one black in-color bag which contained two white,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: in-color plastic bags with a red tie. Each of the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: bags contained documentation and correspondence for 358 El Brio and
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Inside one of the white, in-color bags, I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: located a broken piece of a hard plastic or clear
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: acrylic stick, which was shaped with small ridges. This device
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: is commonly used as a sexual toy, which is inserted
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: into the vagina or the anus for stimulation. This item,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: along with all documents of evidentiary value, were removed and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: turned over to Detective Rakari for follow-up. On or about Tuesday,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: October 4, 2005, at approximately 0928, I responded to 358
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: El Brío and met with PB Sanitation worker Jeff Williams.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I observed Williams enter the driveway of 358 El Brío
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and remove several plastic bags of trash and place the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: contents into the side well of the sanitation truck. This
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: side of the truck is separate from the rear of
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the truck and does not come into contact with the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: other trash. I then followed Williams to a predetermined location
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: and seized the trash from the truck. The trash was
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: transported to the Palm Beach Police Department where I began
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: sifting through its contents. There was a total of two white,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: in-color plastic bags which were tied at the top. Each
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: of the bags contained documentation and correspondence for 358 El
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Brio and Jeffrey Epstein. All documents of evidentiary value were
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: removed and turned over to Detective Ricari for follow-up. On
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: or about Wednesday, October 5, 2005, at approximately 0928, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: responded to 358 El Brío and met with PB Sanitation
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Worker Jeff Williams. I observed Williams enter the driveway of
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: 358 El Brío and remove several plastic bags and place
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the contents into the bed of the sanitation truck. I
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: then followed Williams to a predetermined location and seized the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: trash from the truck. The trash was transported to the
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach Police Department, where I began sifting through its
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: contents with assistance from Detective Rakari. There were a total
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of two bags, one of which was white in color
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and tied in a knot at the top, and the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: other was a black in color bag, which contained two
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: white in color trash bags, a with loose debris. Each
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: of the bags contained documentation and correspondence for 358 El
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Brio and Jeffrey Epstein. All documents of evidentiary value were
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: removed and turned over to Detective Ricari for follow-up. Now
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: we're bouncing back to Detective Ricari and his narrative. I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: met with Detective Kroll and requested further assistance to maintain
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: trash collections at Epstein's residence at 358 Elbrio Road. On
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: October 3, 2005, at approximately 10.30 a.m., I was contacted
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: by Sergeant Frick to respond to the Palm Beach Police Station.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Detective Kroll had observed Jeff Epstein riding his bicycle on
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: South County Road. Upon my arrival, I met with Sergeant Frick,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: who advised as Epstein was currently in town. We interviewed
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: redacted as to her involvement with Epstein and that the
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: girls that are brought to his house as we were
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to interview redacted in the county outside of our jurisdiction.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I contacted the state attorney's office investigative division and I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: made contact with assistant supervisor investigator Carlos Ortiz. I requested
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: assistance to interview redacted as the interview may occur in
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the county outside The supervisor Ortiz assigned investigator Mike Waits
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to assist us at the location and the interview of Redacted.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Detective Dix had responded to the address of Redacted and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: viewed her vehicle parked in the driveway. Redacted's vehicle, a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: red Plymouth neon bearing Redacted, was parked in the driveway
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: of Redacted in Loxahatchee. Sergeant Frick and I responded to
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the 120th Avenue and awaited to the arrival of investigator
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Mike Waits. Upon his arrival, He was briefed that should
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: she wish to be interviewed within her home, he would
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: be needed. However, should Redacted agree to return to the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: police station for further questioning, he would not be needed.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Sergeant Frick and I knocked on the door and met
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: with Redacted and Redacted and was told that we were
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: investigating a claim involving Jeffrey Epstein of El Brio in
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach. Redacted was asked if she wanted to accompany
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: us back to the police station for further questioning. She
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: was also told, that at the conclusion of the interview,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: she would be returned home. She agreed and wished to
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: change her clothes prior to accompanying us back to the
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: police station. At the conclusion of her changing clothes, she
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: advised she was ready to go. I thanked investigator Waits
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and advised she was going to voluntarily return to the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: police station. Upon entry into the unmarked detective vehicle, I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: placed a tape recorder within the vehicle to record any
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: conversation within the vehicle. During the ride back to the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: police station, Redacted advised she is attending Palm Beach Community
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: College at the Palm Beach Gardens campus and is majoring
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: in journalism. Upon our arrival at the police station, Redacted
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: was brought to the interview room in the detective bureau.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I explained to Redacted that I appreciated her willingness to
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: assist us and informed her that should she desire to
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: leave at any time, she may do so. I further
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: explained the interview room door is only closed for privacy.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated she understood. During the tape-sworn interview, Redacted was
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: asked how she came in contact with Epstein. Redacted stated
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: back when she turned 17 years of age, she was
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: approached by a friend in the Canopy Beach Resort in
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Rivera Beach. Redacted was asked if she wanted to make
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: some money. She was told that she would have to
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: provide a massage and should make $ 200. Redacted thought about
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the offer and agreed to meet with Jeffrey Epstein. redacted
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: unknown last name, and redacted unknown last name picked her up,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: and she was taken to Epstein's house. Upon her arrival
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: at the house, she was introduced to Epstein in the
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: kitchen of the house. She was also introduced to a
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: white female known to her as Sarah. She was led
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: upstairs to the main bedroom, known to her as Jeff
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Epstein's bedroom. Sarah arranged the massage table and covered the
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: table with a sheet. She brought out the massage oils
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and laid them next to the massage bed Sarah then
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: left the room and informed her Jeff would be in
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: in a minute. Jeff entered the bedroom wearing only a towel.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: He lay on the table, on his stomach, and picked
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: massage oil for Redacted to rub on him. During the massage,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated, he tried to touch me and I stopped him.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I asked how he tried to touch her. He grabbed
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: her buttocks and she felt uncomfortable. Redacted also stated Epstein
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: has a vibrator which is large and white in color.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Redacted told Epstein, I'll massage you, but I don't want
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: to be touched. Redacted stated she performed the massage naked.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: At the conclusion of the massage, Epstein paid $ 200 for
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: the massage. He explained, I know you're not comfortable, but
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I'll pay you if you bring some girls. He told
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: her the younger the better. Redacted stated she once tried
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to bring a 23-year-old female, and Epstein stated that the
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: female was too old. Redacted was asked how many girls
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: she brought in total to Epstein. Redacted stated six that
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: she can remember. Redacted stated she brought redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: and the victim in this case. I asked redacted which
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: one was the youngest. Redacted advised the victim was the youngest.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated every girl she brought knew what to expect
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: when they arrived, when they told they would provide a massage,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: possibly naked, and some touching. I asked her if the
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: victim was aware. She stated every girl she brought knew
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: what to expect. She explained she knew the victim wanted
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: to make money. She approached the victim and explained she
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: was going to work for Jeff. Alright folks, we're going
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to wrap up right there. And in the next episode,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: we're going to pick up where we left off. All
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: of the information that goes with this episode can be
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: found in the description box.