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3/10/26: Trump Threatens 'Fury' On Iran, Israel Panics, Iran Rejects Ceasefire · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 1: we do.
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  Speaker 2: Trump gave a very head scratching press conference yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: We'll break that down for you. Also, Israel is.
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  Speaker 2: Leaking that maybe they've had enough, maybe they'd like a
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  Speaker 2: ceasfire at least for now. Aurano is signaling they want
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  Speaker 2: to keep going at least until the midterm. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about everybody's strategy and where everybody is in this
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  Speaker 2: war at this point. Brandan Wikert is also going to
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  Speaker 2: join us to break down the interceptor math and the
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  Speaker 2: damage that has been done to US raidars and the
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  Speaker 2: significance of that.
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  Speaker 3: As the war grinds.
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  Speaker 2: On, Trump is urging oil tanker pilots to risk their
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  Speaker 2: lives to traverse the straight of horror moves as oil
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  Speaker 2: concerns continue to escalate and sort of dominate this conflict.
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  Speaker 2: We also have one non around block here, although I
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  Speaker 2: would argue they continue to be linked some new Epstein revelations,
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  Speaker 2: including new details about a potential cover up. Apparently guards
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  Speaker 2: were discussing a cover up. There were some interesting Google searches,
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  Speaker 2: some interesting money transfers to one of these prison guards.
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  Speaker 2: And also those secret interviews of a Trump accuser that
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  Speaker 2: were hidden have now been made public and one journalist
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  Speaker 2: was able to verify some of the details, corroborate some
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  Speaker 2: of the personal details that were offered in one of
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  Speaker 2: those interviews. These are obviously shocking revelations, so we will
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  Speaker 2: break that down for you as well.
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  Speaker 1: us at such a critical time like this. As Krystal said,
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  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and start here with the Trump press conference.
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  Speaker 1: So Trump made a major announcement just to set the
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  Speaker 1: stage for everybody. Yesterday, oil prices had gone sky high,
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  Speaker 1: they had come down a bit, the markets were down.
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  Speaker 1: Right around three pm, right before the markets closed, Trump calls,
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  Speaker 1: or it was called by a CBS News reporter, and
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  Speaker 1: he said that the war will be over very soon. Immediately,
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  Speaker 1: the S and P five hundred shot up, oil prices
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  Speaker 1: rocketed down. Everybody was so excited. The taco is coming.
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  Speaker 1: And then he took to the stage and yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: not really what we got at all. Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 4: They were separate, and but everybody said the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you win.
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  Speaker 5: We will.
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  Speaker 4: We've already won in many ways, but we haven't won enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, please, thank you, thank you. Mister president.
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  Speaker 2: You've said the war is quote very complete, but your
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  Speaker 2: defense secretary says, this is just the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: So which is it and how long should Americans be?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 4: I think both the beginning. It's the beginning of building
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  Speaker 4: a new country. But they certainly they have no navy,
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  Speaker 4: they have no air force, they have no anti aircraft equipment.
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  Speaker 4: It's all been blown up. They have no radar, they
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  Speaker 4: have no telecommunications, and they have no leadership. It's all gone.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, you could look at that statement. Could
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  Speaker 4: we could call it a tremendous success right now as
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  Speaker 4: we leave here, I could call it, or we could
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  Speaker 4: go further. And we're going to go further. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: they've said this about a lot of things. Go as
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  Speaker 4: the president could do some of this shit I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, true, yeah, certainly, true, definitely not a compliment. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and put a two B please Eric up
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  Speaker 1: on the screen just to show people again, how you
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  Speaker 1: know any idea of some sort of taco Trump always
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  Speaker 1: chickens out, as originally coined by Senator Chuck Schumer, now
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  Speaker 1: become a Wall Street journal and or trader term has
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  Speaker 1: completely been dispelled so late last night, Trump issues this missive.
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  Speaker 1: If Iran does anything that stops the flow of oil
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  Speaker 1: within the strait of Horror Moves, they will be hit
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  Speaker 1: by the United States of America twenty times harder than
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  Speaker 1: they have been hit thus far. Additionally, we will take
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  Speaker 1: out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible
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  Speaker 1: for Iran to ever be built back as a nation again. Death,
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  Speaker 1: fire and fury will rain upon them. But I hope
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  Speaker 1: and pray it does not happen. This is a gift
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  Speaker 1: from the United States of America to China and all
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  Speaker 1: those nations that heavily use the horror Moves straight. Hopefully,
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  Speaker 1: it is a gesture we great appreciated. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: your attention to this matter. So fire and fury watchers,
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  Speaker 1: it's back fire and fury, of course, originally coined in
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen in that exchange between Trump and what did
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  Speaker 1: he call Kim Jong un rocketman?
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  Speaker 3: The rocket rocket man?
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, nine years since all that happened, feels like yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: But just to give people context, this is all indicative
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  Speaker 1: of a panicking administration over these rising energy prices. So
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  Speaker 1: while oil as of this morning it's trading around ninety
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  Speaker 1: dollars a barrel, it was all the way up to
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  Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty yesterday. Extremely volatile. Everybody, of course,
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  Speaker 1: hanging on every word of the president. But regardless, it's
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  Speaker 1: still up some thirty forty percent from when the war began.
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  Speaker 1: Just some last week. They are trying to find some
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  Speaker 1: sort of off ramp. Let's go ahead and put a
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  Speaker 1: two up there, or sorry, a one b up here
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  Speaker 1: on the screen. This is a Wall Street Journal story
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  Speaker 1: breaking late last night. What it says, as you guys
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  Speaker 1: can see in front of you, is that some of
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  Speaker 1: Trump's advisors in recent days have encouraged him to articulate
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  Speaker 1: a plan to extract the US from the war with Iran,
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  Speaker 1: make the case that the military had largely achieved its objectives.
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  Speaker 1: While many in the president's conservative base still support the operation,
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  Speaker 1: some of his advisors have privately expressed concerns that a
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  Speaker 1: longer war could deplete that support, so they're talking about
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  Speaker 1: political backlash, which again I actually think at this point
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  Speaker 1: is the least of their problems, because just this morning
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  Speaker 1: we hear from the United Arab Emirates that one of
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  Speaker 1: the largest refineries in the entire country, in the entire
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  Speaker 1: Middle East is now on fire, and they're like, hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: please stop circulating rumor, but yes, we are trying to
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  Speaker 1: contain far a fire. I love the vague nature which
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  Speaker 1: they released it, Like when Saudi Arabia said incoming missiles
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  Speaker 1: into Dahron, please don't panic, and I was like, Doron
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  Speaker 1: is where Saudi Aramcoin is, so maybe we should panic.
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  Speaker 1: Same here with the UAE. We know multiple targets were
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  Speaker 1: struck overnight all across both Iran, which we're going to
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  Speaker 1: show you in a little bit, and this morning we're
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  Speaker 1: already waking up to the news that's more significant oil
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  Speaker 1: infrastructure has been hit. So the war continues to widen.
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  Speaker 1: I think what the advisors are pointing to is that
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  Speaker 1: they can see gas prices look maybe not one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty even ninety. I mean, it's high, is very high,
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  Speaker 1: and the only reason I think that it's currently trading
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  Speaker 1: around ninety right now. Is that, and we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: this in a little bit, is that the G seven
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  Speaker 1: nations have decided that basically that they will they're open
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  Speaker 1: to releasing probably you know, thirty percent of what's already
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  Speaker 1: been lost of the entire strategic petroleum reserve from all
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  Speaker 1: across the world out into the open market to try
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  Speaker 1: and lay those fears same the S and P five hundreds.
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  Speaker 1: As far as I know, how so far.
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  Speaker 3: It's down a little bit, features down a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit, but not you know, all the way back to
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  Speaker 1: where it was. But the point is is that they
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  Speaker 1: saw this indication as Trump is open to some sort
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  Speaker 1: of offering, but traders have no idea, so you could
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  Speaker 1: see extreme volatility happen. I mean, if you ask me
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  Speaker 1: fire and fury, that's a cell signal.
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  Speaker 3: That's just me well what it's I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Trump's actions yesterday were obviously just a good old fashion
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  Speaker 2: market manipulation. He saw things going south in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the stock market, he saw things going north in.
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  Speaker 3: Terms of the oil prices.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I got to do something about this because
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  Speaker 2: I got to buy myself some time here as much
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  Speaker 2: time as I can. So he, you know, calls up
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  Speaker 2: this reporter says, oh, we're pretty much done, schedules a
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  Speaker 2: press conference for after the market's closed to be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you can say that we're done, but also we're just beginning.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of both at the same time. Somehow, my
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  Speaker 2: read of the situation is he actually would like to
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  Speaker 2: taco and listen to the aids and find some sort
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  Speaker 2: of way out of this, but he's trapped because if
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  Speaker 2: he now like declares mission accomplished and tries to walk away,
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians have been very consistent in saying we're not done.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, you don't get to say when this is over,
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  Speaker 2: because we know we learned our lesson from the Twelve
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  Speaker 2: Day War. We're not doing a ceasefire with you now
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  Speaker 2: until you have felt the pain. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: more about some of the specifics of what the Iranians
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  Speaker 2: are saying, you know, when we get to that portion.
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  Speaker 2: But so he knows if he tries to walk away
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  Speaker 2: there is a very very strong likelihood. But in his
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  Speaker 2: you know, intelligence reports are probably telling him this too,
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  Speaker 2: that the Iranians continue to strike, and so then you
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  Speaker 2: just look incredibly weak. So you know, I think his
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  Speaker 2: aids are it's incredible that they're already leaking to the
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  Speaker 2: press like this is not going well. We want to
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  Speaker 2: find a way out of this thing. I think that
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  Speaker 2: also was probably a signal to the markets, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that they're trying to put out there of like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're trying to get out.
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  Speaker 3: Of this, guys.
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  Speaker 2: But this is what we have been talking about. This
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  Speaker 2: is this is the prediction we've been making from the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of this that once you get into this escalatory cycle,
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  Speaker 2: it's not so easy as just putting up the mission
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  Speaker 2: accomplished banner and saying we're going to walk away. So
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  Speaker 2: that's my read of what is going on here. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think also obviously they're putting out all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of bluster. You hear Trump there, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: they have no more navy, they have no more air force,
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  Speaker 2: they have no more leaders, et cetera, et cetera. They're
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  Speaker 2: basically defeated. You know, we've effectively declared victory here, even
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  Speaker 2: though we're going to keep going. But this leak from
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  Speaker 2: his aide shows that behind the scenes, the picture is
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  Speaker 2: far less rosy, and there are great concerns both in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the economic fallo, the military damage, and the
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  Speaker 2: political fallout.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give you headlines from just the last thirty
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  Speaker 1: five minutes. Al Jazeerra correspondent explosion following sirens in northern
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  Speaker 1: Tel Aviv. A'll Upbar correspondent, Lebanese Army soldier killed in
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  Speaker 1: the conflict with Israel, Abu Dhabi authorities, fire broke out
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  Speaker 1: in the Ros industrial complex, and then another Lebanese Army
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  Speaker 1: soldier was killed. And explosions in Doha, Qatar and as
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  Speaker 1: well as the UA. So there you go. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is all just in the last thirty forty five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: You're ready for this week on the show.
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  Speaker 2: A top Iranian security official tells Trump be careful not
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  Speaker 2: to get eliminated yourself. So this is the kind of
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  Speaker 2: rhetoric that you know is coming from the Iranians, as
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  Speaker 2: that sound like people who want to back down their leader.
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  Speaker 2: Now is the dude, who's mom, dad, wife and son
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  Speaker 2: you just murdered?
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  Speaker 1: So you think your relatives in there too?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's yeah, other yeah, children, relatives to whatever. They Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all mass murdered. You think he's in a conciliatory mood?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he's ready to shake hands and say okay,
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  Speaker 2: well let's uh, you know, let's go back to the
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  Speaker 2: negotiating table.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. And by the way, you know.
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  Speaker 2: With this sort of rudder, which is extreme, can you
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  Speaker 2: really complain when you just assassinated their head of state
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  Speaker 2: and are openly threading the new one? I mean, Trump
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  Speaker 2: got asked about I don't think we've pulled the clip.
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  Speaker 2: But Trump got asked, hey, you know, are you thinking
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  Speaker 2: of killing the new Supreme Leaner. He's like, yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 2: if he doesn't comply, yeah, we may do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He kept that open and you can already see how
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  Speaker 1: that is working. Now again, we just want to stick
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  Speaker 1: to show you the American press. Part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: we're so happy by the people who watch this show.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm watching this press conference yesterday. My wife's mad
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  Speaker 1: at me because I'm not being able to help out
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  Speaker 1: with the baby. It's late at night at aka like
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  Speaker 1: six pm, and I'm like, okay, you know, let's get
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  Speaker 1: some good questions in here. And this is the shit
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  Speaker 1: that I hear. You sear some reporter out there who goes, wait,
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  Speaker 1: but if you do, Taco, then aren't you letting down
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian people. Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 2: You promise the Iranian people you would help them, but
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like you're willing to end this fight after
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  Speaker 2: your military objectives have wrapped up.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that in a betrayal?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I help them. I'd like to if they can behave,
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  Speaker 4: but they've been very menacing. You know, they're great people.
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  Speaker 4: They have an amazing population. It's an amazing smart, brilliant, energetic.
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  Speaker 4: They have a great point. I'd love to help them,
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  Speaker 4: but they have to be in a system that allows
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  Speaker 4: them to be helped.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the only adversarial the journalism that we occasionally
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  Speaker 1: get is a reporter being like but if you end it,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't that stop helping the Iranian people. You want to
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  Speaker 1: see how we're helping out the Iranian people. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to a three. Let's show some of this stuff from
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  Speaker 1: last night. By the way, the president in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of a speech is talking about how, oh, if Iran
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  Speaker 1: doesn't capitulate, we're going to go after their energy grid. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: in the video that you all just saw, that was
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  Speaker 1: a strike in the middle of Tehran where you see
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  Speaker 1: that massive flash which analysts are indicating is a power
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  Speaker 1: transformer which caused a massive blackout across the entire city.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at this, it's out of a movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's literally out of a movie in four
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  Speaker 1: K video where all of us just get to see
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  Speaker 1: what happenings with some of these explosions. So that's apparently
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  Speaker 1: how we're helping the Iranian people, the great people of Iran,
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  Speaker 1: who are just going to rally around the American flag
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  Speaker 1: and greet us in the Israelis as liberators. Meanwhile, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, as all indications go forward, A five put
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  Speaker 1: this up here on the screen. More confirmation of everything
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  Speaker 1: that we warned you about yesterday. Capturing Iran's highly enriched
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  Speaker 1: uranium would require a large US ground force, sources say.
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  Speaker 1: So the President continues to weigh that special operation which
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  Speaker 1: would go in and capture all of this nuclear material,
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  Speaker 1: and it would make sense, right cris Loo, because that's
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  Speaker 1: an easy mission accomplished. Well, what did we tell you
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  Speaker 1: all yesterday? You can't just send in small team of
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  Speaker 1: Delta Force. They know you're coming. That's why the eighty
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  Speaker 1: second Airborne has currently been put unnotice and is awaiting orders,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: and they can deploy anywhere in the world in like
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  Speaker 1: seventy two hours. This is the exact reason is that
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do so, it would require Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the Delta guys are go in it, but somebody's got
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  Speaker 1: to protect them. So you're going to need all these
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  Speaker 1: air assets, you need large ground force around the area.
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  Speaker 1: The Iranians know that you're coming, they turn it into
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  Speaker 1: a complete death trap. If there have any you know,
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  Speaker 1: IQ left in their leadership and in their military. So
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  Speaker 1: that's why it would require more. And then who knows
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  Speaker 1: how many people are going to get killed in that
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  Speaker 1: type of mission. And it would be some sort of
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  Speaker 1: I think that would be their way of saying mission
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  Speaker 1: a compress is that they would knock it over, but
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  Speaker 1: it would have to end on the same note. If
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  Speaker 1: this is the way that it's going to go down
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  Speaker 1: the way that Afghanistan did. And look, you know you
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  Speaker 1: and I were supported of the decision to get out
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  Speaker 1: of Afghanistan, but you can't deny it was an abject disaster,
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  Speaker 1: right and that yet thirteen Marines were blown up by
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  Speaker 1: some ISIS bomber who were right there at the end,
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  Speaker 1: and it's sunk a decent part of Trump's presidency, it
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  Speaker 1: looked like or sorry Biden's presidency, it looked like a
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  Speaker 1: quagmire and a disaster, and that's that's pretty much how
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  Speaker 1: this is looking right now. For the plan to have
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  Speaker 1: all of these forces on the.
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  Speaker 2: Ground, well, and not only would it require all of
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  Speaker 2: these forces, I mean to say it would be risky
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  Speaker 2: is really to undersell it. One of the analysts that
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: they interviewed here said the logistics and risk involved would
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: be prohibitive, meaning that this isn't just risky, this is
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: practically a wish. You're talking about an operation that would require,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: you know, require air cover, require security, require these guys
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: on the ground, and then you have to find where
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: this material even is. They have some idea the thought
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: is that it's still buried, you know, at Isfahan, and
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: that you'd have to be able to access it through
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: these tunnels. I mean, that's and that's why I think
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: they haven't gone forward with this yet because it's just
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: such an insanely risky, difficult mission. You're begging for scores
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: of US service members to either be captured or killed.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: So you know, the the quote unquote easy mission accomplished
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: moment is not going to be easy whatsoever, and could
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: only further deepen and entrench this conflict, not to mention,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: kill a bunch of Americans. So that is the landscape
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: that they're ultimately looking at here. You know, there's another development.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I'm curious when you think of this saga, This is
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you know, a little hard to parts. This comes from
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Barack Revied. We could put this up on the screen.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Trump apparently spoke with Putin. This is a six claiming
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: that they discussed an end to the Iran war in
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: a phone call. The Kremlin says that the Russian president
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: presented a proposal. You know, it was the Russians who originally,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: you know, leaked the the fact that this phone call happened,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: and then clearly the White House gave some details to
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Barak Revied. But this comes to miss reports that Russia
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: has been helping Iran quite a bit with intelligence, which
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: is crucial. I mean, we've been doing the same thing
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: with Ukraine in terms of yeah, yeah, for years and
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: you know, certainly in the context of the of you know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: after Russia invaded Ukraine, and that has been incredibly important
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: for the Ukrainians and their ability to sustain you know,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: the lines, the battle lines that they've been able to
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: sustain their ability to target, including targeting within Russia that
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: has all been enabled by US, and Russia reportedly is
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: doing the same for Iran, which is why, you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: there have been a bunch of reports, including from our
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: friends at drop site, that the US was shocked by
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: some of the targeting, including the ability to know where
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: service members were, which hotel rooms, our service members we're
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: staying in, and other personnel we're staying in.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: So you know, that's the backstory here.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: So to have this conversation happening right now is you know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: it's an interesting development.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Well, there was another piece of the press conference where
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Trump did not get specific, but he said we'll be
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: removing sanctions from some countries for oil. It's obviously you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: it's right after a call with Putin. Now listen, I'm
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: not for the oil sanctions, so I don't care. But
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: if you're one of those neo cons who's been beating
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: their chest for Ukraine you want to cut off Russian oil,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: how much of an idiot do you look like that? Now?
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Well, India already got their waivered.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe you got their waiver from Russian, I.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Mean, which is insane that they need such.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: A right or whatever.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Couldn't be pathetic on there.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But all right, so let's put that to the side.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So now Trump and Putin are in a long phone
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: call and Putin, I mean, what you think he's not
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: gonna sweet. He's like, hey, you want to bring the
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: price of oil down, I'll help you. Just take some
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: of these sanctions off. No worries, it's all good. We
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: can even move towards a peace settlement in Ukraine. Meanwhile,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Kremlin war coffers are going up like this. If you
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there's one of his advisors, Putin's advisors, he's on Twitter.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You guys should really go and follow them. His name
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: is Kirol something I forget. He's out. He's very open
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: about it. He's like, thank you United States. One hundred
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: dollars per barrel. This is the best thing that's ever
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: happened to us over at the Kremlin. We can use
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: this to our advantage. You've just taken out a significant
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: chunk of the global supply. He's like, oh, we're going
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to use all this money to kill the Ukrainian Nazis.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: That's how they talk, right, So they're open. You just
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: massively empowered the Russians. Another huge piece of news about
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: South Korea. I'll save that for our talk with Brandon.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's literally breaking right now, it's absolutely shocking. But the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: last thing I did want, of course, to note, is
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: about this strike on the girls school, the elementary school,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: where Trump, again I could not believe that this was
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: actually happening. Where a reporter I think it was Manu
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Raju over at CNN. He's a pretty good reporter and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: he's like, hey, so what happened with this Tomahawk missile?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: A video and it shows hitting a girls school and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Trump goes, well, a lot of people have Tomahawk missiles,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: including Iran. I'm not joking, that's what he said. Let's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: take a listen.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Missile striking.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: A Tomahawk missile likely destroyed that Iranian girls' school.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So will the Americans? Will the US accept any responsibility?
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Well, I haven't seen it, and I will say that
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: the Tomahawk, which is one of the most powerful weapons around,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: is used by you know, he's sold and used by
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: other countries, you know that. And whether it's Iran who
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: also has some Tomahawks, they wish they had more. But
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: whether it's Iran or somebody else, the fact that a tomahawk.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: A Tomahawk is very generic. It's sold to other countries,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: but that's being investigated right now.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Super generic missile. Only the United States, Britain, and Australia have.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Even Israel does not have these things.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Right, So, I mean, it's like, I mean, I'm not
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I'm laughing, but I'm not laughing, Like that's an insane
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: thing to say. And actually reporter confronted him later on.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It was great Sean McCree shout out over the New
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: York Times. Been a fan of his for a long time,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and he was like, why are you the only person
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in your government saying that Iran has a Tomahawk missas Like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not even your own secretary of Defense says that, And
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: he goes, well, we're investigating it, and I'll live with
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: whatever the report was. So even he walked it back
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: in the immediate term.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: McCree was like, you're saying that Iran somehow got a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Tomahawk missile and bombed their own school. No one else
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: is saying that. Why are you the only person that's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: saying that? And then Trump backbattles to like, well, there's
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: an investigation. I mean, just unbelievable bullshit. That even Pete
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: egseth Is you know, has enough shame that he won't
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: go along with so they default to like, oh, it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: an investigation, and you know this has been like it
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: should be, and it is a massive scandal. It should
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: be an even bigger scandal. But I've seen even you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Laura Ingram is like there needs to be answers to this,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: like how did this happen?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Because the other.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Piece is, you know, best case scenario, it's just a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: horrific mistake. But then you're like, why was it a
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: double tap strike? Then how did that happen? And then
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the other question obviously is was this an AI generated target?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: That why this occurred?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Because there was another instance where they bombed something called
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: police Park.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Now this may have been.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: The Israelis, because it's been largely the Israelis who have
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: been bombing the you know, the police stations, just trying
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: to completely break down any sort of civil order and
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: create the you know, Foamon, the conditions for this you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: imaginary uprising, same thing that they did in Gaza, by
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the way, when they were trying to get the people
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: to rise up against waws.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Obviously that never happened either.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: But in any case, in the context of botoming all
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: these police stations, they bombed something called police.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Park, which is literally just a park.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: So what seemed to indicate potentially, you know, AI was
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: just generating like anything that says police, let's just bomb that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: There was no intensive human review to find out you're
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: literally bombing like a playground in a soccer field or
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: something like that, And so they go forward with that
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: like how did this happen? Because bombing in an elementary
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: school where you have one hundred and sixty eight girls
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: who are now murdered and more than a dozen of
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: their teachers who are now murdered on the very first
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: day of the world of the war is a moral atrocity.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And it also you know, we're going to show you
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: some of the hardening of nationalists sentiment within the country.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Like when you see your little children being murdered at
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the hands of this you know, enemy government that attacked
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: you on the legally attacked you on the blue and
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: killed your leader, et cetera. You know, how do you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: think that's going to make people feel? It's going to
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: make them much more committed to want to fight and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: die for the cause of their country. So you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: just disgusting for Trump to lie and is so honestly,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: so disrespectful to the people of the world and the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: people of this country to think we're just going to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: buy this bullshit. You know, I'm sure his cult members will,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: but the rest of the country is going to look
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: at this and be like that is utter and complete garbage.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Should be horrified by it. I also think that it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a massive disservice to the military. It's one of those
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: where we had a culture originally, and again you can
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: say a lot of bad things about Iraq and Afghanistan,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but generally there was a culture and I covered many
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: of these. Yeah, when you did something like this, you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: were gonna pay.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It was a scandal.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: There was going to be a real investigation. There were
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: likely to be some kind of consequences.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And the thing is is that and think about this too.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Now you've got the person who probably fired the tomahawk.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: They've got to live with this forever. The only way
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that they should be able to live with it is
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to know that there's accountability up the chain of command.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Because again, the individual sailors or any of other people
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: who fired these they don't know, they're just programming things,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you know, from the Pentagon. Who in the Pentagon created
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the strike package? What was the process where the strike
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: package happened? Remember my Lie? I mean we did a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: whole after action thing on the my Lie massacre or
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: any of the atrocities, the kun't Dou's hospital. I read
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the whole report. You can you can google it. You
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: can go and read it for yourself. You want to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: know the step by step process. It used to be
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: one where we would take this stuff very seriously. Now
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I was, oh, it was Iran. I mean again the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: way that you know that it wasn't because I even
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: saw some cope, not even cope. But somebody said, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: one alternative, which is or even more horrifying, is that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: whenever we struck Iran previously, that they were able to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: acquire a dud Tomhawk missile. And I was like, I'm
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: pretty sure that that didn't happen. There would but if
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it did, that would be as much of a scandal,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you know. At the same time, but beyond like all
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: of this.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so far fast, pretty purpose.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: It has to be fired and create you know, It's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like it's not so simple. It's just like getting a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Tomhawk missile. But the whole point around for our military
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: culture is one where you don't want to encourage cover
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: up or you know, or make it so that you
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: don't acknowledge these types of incidents, because we know from
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: our long history that would only encourage and institutionalize a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: bad process, and that's not what we want. It's counter
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: toward strategic games, our tactical aames obviously, and also one
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight people are one hundred and sixty
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: eight little girls are literally dead. It's it's insane not
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to mention what seven US soldiers. I just saw the news.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You know, one of those guys who they're claiming one
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of those guys you were claiming had to help died
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of at heltical NYPD, father of six children, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: coming back and in a coffin like it's it's the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: worst possible thing for all of these people who are involved.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Last I was just gonna say to your point about
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you know, look, obviously I have long term critiques of
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the US military and you know, the lack of care
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: for civilians and all of that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, the first.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Like big video that WikiLeaks published was the Collateral murderer
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: video which showed an Apache helicopter targeting you know, journalists
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: and civilians, and that was a massive scandal, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: and so you know, I think partly too what has
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: happened here is with all of us watching the Gaza
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: genocide happen on our timelines, they do think that they
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: can just get away with anything. And now you see
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the US directly copying the Israeli tactics of Okay, if
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: we do, if we spark a little public outrage, we'll
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: just say, you know, oh, we don't know, maybe it
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: was them. Maybe first we'll try, oh, maybe it was
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: actually the Iranians who bombed their own elementary school. See
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: if people will buy that, and if they won't, then
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you say, oh, there'll be an investigation, and then you
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: just you know, let the news cycle move on.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And that's where we are.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Last thing we want to show you was this report
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: from inside of Iran. Doctor Mohammad Moran, now again he
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: joined John Kirkau. We always give the caveat. He's very
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: pro regime. He has sources, though, so we try to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: try to show show you all sides of the conflict.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: He says that Iran wants to wait until the midterms
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: are over in order to keep this war going as
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: long as possible. Let's take a listen.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: I've been informed today by a significant political figure that
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: Iran plans to continue this war until the midterms in
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: the United States.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: And.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: They will. They are planning to make the United force
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: the United As to leave. And the more this war escalates,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: the darker it becomes for US allies across the region.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: For the Arab family dictatorships in the Persian Gulf, this
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: if it continues for much longer, they won't survive. Remember
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: these are all dictatorships, family dictatorships, and the passport holders
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: in these small entities are sometimes ten to fifteen percent
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: of the whole population. So in the Emirates you have
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: one point four million people who are amortis the rest
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: ten million or so. I guess they're they're they're there.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: But if the state collapses, those slaves and in the
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: indentured servants and the underclass, they may have something to
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: say about the future of Emirates or Patar or Kuwait.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: So you could see, they're the strategic calculus from side.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing, you don't even really need to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: trust him. I think you just need to look at
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: their public statements. We're not going to surrender the going
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: after President Trump in retaliation for some sort of fire
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and fury. I also think everyone should really pay attention
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to all of our interviews with doctor Treja Parsi, because
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he was dead on before the war and he's been
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: dead on since. And he's like, look, if they end
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the war right now, they're going to be very weak.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And they believe too in their hearts that the Twelve
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Day War ending was a disaster because it gave the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Israelis in the US time to rearm before they hit
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: them again. How could they possibly have any assurance that
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: they won't get hit again after we bomb them twice twice,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that we've launched wars with them after, you know, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: under the cover of diplomacy, you would never trust that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: ever again. The only way to make any sort of
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: trust is to inflict maximum damage for as long as possible,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: try and destroy the global economy, like that's their one
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: chance at being able to survive. You've got the new Ayahtola,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Who's I mean? I can't even give you the list
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: of how many relatives this guy is dead. I read
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a profile of him yesterday. We really don't know much
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: about him. We only heard his voice once apparently in
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: public in twenty twenty four, but the only propaganda video
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of him released is cleaning his gun during the iron
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I Rock War. Not great. Also, somebody who had apparently
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: long fostered relations with the IRGC and tried to put
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: down or you know, bolster some of the hardline factions
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: during protest in nine. So you've got the ideological component,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the fact that his you know, his father has been killed,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: his wife, his daughter or sorry, his son, one of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: his children who is killed in this strike. And you're like, oh, man,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like we're dealing with somebody. If anything, this is the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: guy who's going to repeal a Fatland nuclear weapons You
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: could understand from a psychological personal perspective and in ideological
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you've used those two things together, what would you do?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And a tactical perspective they for this is from their
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: own strategic perspective, they should have pursued a nuke that
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: would have been a desserent. I mean, so you know
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: there have been many hardliners who have you know, pushed
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: in that direction, but it has not happened, I think
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: predominantly because of the fatoua that was issued by the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: now dead Isatola, And so yeah, you could easily see
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and think of the insanity of that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Think of the insanity of that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: So one of the many stated goals of this whole
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: war is to prevent them from getting from acquiring a
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. And there is a very strong possibility you've
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: just made it more likely that they will pursue a
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, not less. Last thing to your point about
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Tree to Party, I just wanted to read his analysis.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: He posted about the Trump press conference, which was, as
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: we said, all over the place. He said, Trump's all
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: over the place press or appears to have had two
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: key objectives. A call the markets by signaling the conflict
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: may student be over because it had been so quote
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: unquote successful, And b prepare the ground for Trump ending
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the war through a unilateral declaration of victory. Though ending
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a war that never should have starred in the first place,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: rather than finding endlessly in the pursuit of an illusory
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: victory as the US didn't have Afghanistan, is the right move,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it will not be as easy as Trump appears to think.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Tehran also has a vote, and there is little to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: suggest that it will agree that the war is over,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: and then he goes on to talk more about the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Iranian perspective. But that is really the bottom line here.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Even if Trump wants to taco, and there are some
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: indications here that he and his advisors are trying to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: look for a way to taco, which would be great,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: even if he does that, he may be already in
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: a trap. The Iranians do not seem to be in
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: any mood to back down. So that is the lay
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: of the land as of today. It is, you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: looks like we are in an escalation trap. Looks like
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: this thing is only expanding, only going to get more
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: dead lee, only going to grind on further into you
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: know what, may end up being sort of war of
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: attrition where you know, that's why we're going to talk
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to Brandon Wikert later on. You know what lasts longer
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: our interceptors or their drones, which they're able, by the way,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to continuously manufacture, which one is willing to bear more pain.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: The Iranians, for whom this is literally existential in terms
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: of both their lives and their country, Or the Americans
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: who do not even want this war and are not
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: interested in paying any sort of price for it. You know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I think most Americans probably sort of like the idea of, oh,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the Iranians are bad, let's overflip throw their regime, but
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: they do not support this and they're not willing to
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: bear much of any cost in order to accomplish the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: ever shifting goals articulated by the Trump regim.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Let's move on to Israel.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got, you know, sort of a parallel
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: story here going on from the Israelis, where we just
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: talked about how some of Trump's aids are leaking to
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the press, like we're trying to figure out how to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: get out of this thing. Well, the Israelis are apparently
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: leaking to David Ignatius, who's known to be very like
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: tied in with the deep state over at the Washington
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Post that they are also concerned. So this is worth
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: taking note of with interest. Put this up on the screen.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So the headline is Israeli officials are growing concerned. A
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: bombing campaign nearing its military goals in Iran leaves the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: hardest questions unanswered. A few senior officials in Israel are
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: starting to voice concern about the escalating open ended attack
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: on Iran and suggesting possible exit ramps that might halt
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the war before it further damages the region and the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: global economy. Talk of an endgame is early, and a
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: decision about whether to stop the attacks rests largely with
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: President Talton Trump. That's not what he said, by the way,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in any case, who continues to seek all out victory.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: But in a telephone conversation Sunday, a senior Israeli official
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: familiar with the planning and strategy for the want Ron
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: war discussed alternatives to Trump's call for unconditional surrender. Official
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: requested anonymity, So that is kind of the line coming
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: out from these Israeli officials is, look, our bases are
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: taking you know, direct hits. We're gonna talk later about
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the radars that have been damaged. You know, our golf
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: allies are really unhappy in a variety of ways.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that as well.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: But the Israelis are taking active fire in their country,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and we really don't have a clear view of just
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: how much damage has been done. But they have to
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: be looking at the same innerce math that we've been
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: talking about in the context of this war that we
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: talked about in the context of the Twelve Day War
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and going, I'm not sure how much we are able
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: or willing to sustain, so they may be you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: reportedly after the Twelve Day War was really the Israelis
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: who were the ones who said, let's call this quits
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: for now, you know, let's come to some sort of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: a ceasefire, let's end these hostilities for now. Over precisely
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: some of these same concerns, and I think soccer they
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: would probably be happy adopting effectively like a mow the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: lawn strategy, like what they've done in Gaza for years
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and years, where you go in, destabilize, blow a bunch
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: of shit up, you know, make it impossible for the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: country of Iran to grow and thrive and succeed, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: create a bunch of chaos, and then once the price
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: gets too much to bear for you, or public sentiment
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: starts to turn. Global sentiment. It should be clear the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Israeli public is very much on board with this war,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: but once global sentiment starts to okay, then we'll we'll
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll stop for now and then will go
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: back in at a future time. That seems to be
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: what they're aiming for. But of course, you know, this
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: is subject to the same problem that the Trumpian logic
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: of you know, if Trump wants to taco is subject
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to as well, which is that they there is another
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: party to this. And the Iranians seem to have learned
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: a lesson from the Twelve Day War. They seem to
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: regret having agreed to that cease fire then, which just
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: allowed the Israelis and the Americans to rebuild and re
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: equip so that they could come back in with an
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: even more aggressive illegal war.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, what I see in terms of
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the Israeli strategy is more of an acknowledgment of the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: widening of the conflict. Where I really do It does
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: seem to me that the Israelis in the US actually
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: believed a lot of their own bs that they wouldn't
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: strike elements of the Gulf. They just thought that this
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: is a nightmare scenario. Same with the closure of the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Straits of Hormuz. It was one of those like tail
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: end risks, but not something that was really from what
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they were thinking, would happen. I mean. Ignacious even writes
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: that the bombing campaign was nearing the point of achieving
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: its military objectives. But what they find is that, of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: course we wish to topple the regime, but that's not
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the only endgame. This is the Israeli Once the major
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: military targets have been eliminated, Israel would have achieved its goals.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Iran won't surrender, but it can send messages to accept
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a ceasefire within US conditions. But what that ignores is
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: how the Iranians are going to respond number one, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: they've already gone for the max strategy. But two, I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: think what they're also saying from the Israeli perspective is
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, man, now we're tied at the hip
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: here with the United States, with Trump, we're tied at
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the hip. Obviously with them, they want to declare this
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: some sort of regime change, but they're also learning as
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: we continue to see their strikes all over Israel. I. Mean, look,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the war has already widened. Israeli soldiers have even been killed.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Now with Hesbola, they're having to expand into Lebanon. And
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: what they like, as you said, is having the boogeyman exists.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But if they actually go forward, then what are they
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: going to do? They can't rile up their whole population
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: every few years and say, oh, well, we have to
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: go bomb them because of their nuclear threat. If they
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: actually did replace the regime, then they would have first
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of all, we'd have to live with their consequences, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: people could see how much of a nightmare that it's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: all become. But I think more than anything, this is
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: probably more about munitions math, and it's about defense readiness
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and the reality of a long war and what it's
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: all going to look like.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Well, and there were also some indications before Trump kicked off.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: This war that it was the Israelis.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Again, this was some reporting that came out, you know, Yahoo,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: come to know visit Trump in December, and it looks
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: like that's when they made.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: The decision like, okay, we're going to go to war
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and all.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, all the negotiations were totally fake, as
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: evidenced by the fact that they sent two guys who
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: really didn't know what they were talking about in order
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to lead these alleged negotiations. And of course, while you're
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: in the midst of these negotiations and the Iranians have
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: just given up more concessions than they have ever had,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: that's the moment when you choose to actually start the war.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: But in any case, there was reporting that it was
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: actually the Israelis that were like, way, we were not
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: ready to start yet, and the US moved even more
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: firepower into the region, moved another carrier strike group into
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the region, and so the alleged diplomacy was to kind
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of run out the clock so that the war could
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: start at a time when we would be somewhat more prepared.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Just imagine how disasters.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: This would have been if it started even earlier, when
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: we were less prepared, given what a disaster it already is.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, the Israelis are the ones taking
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the direct hits in their country, and so they've now
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: realized that I don't know if they ever believe they
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: probably didn't, that if they decapitated the regime that the
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: whole thing would collapse. But once that has not come
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: to fruition, there's no signs that you're going to have
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: some sort of you.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Know, regime change.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: The Kurds are like, we're not getting involved here, You're
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: you know, not looking at civil war conditions at this point.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Then the next best option.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: For Israel is to say, okay, well, we blew up
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a bunch of shit. You know, Iran has paid a price.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: We'll back off for now, and then we'll come back later.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: You know, we'll do the same thing. We got Trump
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: in office for a few more years we can, you know,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: later on, we'll talk them into this again. We'll once
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: again threaten to strike heron if he doesn't well once again,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you know, talk about how they're rebuilding the nuclear program.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: By the way, that might be true now all given
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the logic that we have created, it gives them every
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: incentive to go in that direction. So I think that's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: some of the calculus there. At the same time, we
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: wanted to take a look at our friend Lindsey Graham,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: who we covered yesterday, you know, reporting about We already
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: knew he was very influential in terms of pushing for
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: this war. This is a near lifelong dream at this point.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: There is no one happier, I think, on the planet
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: right now than this bloodthirsty ghoul. And so he was,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you know, making the rounds over on Fox News yesterday,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: just talking about how much he is committed to Israel,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: how much he loves Israel, et cetera.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a listen to that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: All the anti seminis to all the isolationists, I don't believe.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Forget it. I'm not with you, I'm with Israel. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: will be with Israel to our dying day. They're the
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: best ally we could hope for. So we have a
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: commander in chief in President Trump, who I think is
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Ronald W. Reagan plus plus plus.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: God bless is right.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: We should move all our stuff to Israel.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Thank you, God bless is should be of all our
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: stuff to Israel. I'll be with Israel to my dying day.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a United States senator. Him and
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Ted Cruz both ound there are just openly admitting that
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: this is their number one priority. Calling Trump Ronald Reagan
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: plus is also really something. And it's important to play
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: these comments and understand this man's mindset because he has
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: been very influential. He had a plan to push Trump
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: in this direction. Again, Trump's a big boy. This is
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: his fault ultimately, and the reporting is that he ended
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: up being pretty enthusiastic about going in this direction. But
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham has been there making the case routinely religiously
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: for years now at this point, and so in a
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: lot of ways, you know, he is he is driving
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: this trainer. At least he is incredibly important in terms
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: of why we ended up being this whole.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: It's twenty Magus like, come, President Trump, please keep Lindsey
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Graham off the air. He's hurting your case. I'm like, no, no, no, no,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: He's the only fucker whos canelling us all the truth, Okay,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that he's in here with a blood relationship with They
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: have got some like Angelina, Jolie, Billy Bob Thornton wearing
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: each other's blood around their necks, some satanic ritual that's
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: going on between the two of them. I don't you know,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: we'll only speculate, but that's what's really going on with
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: old Lindsay and Israel. But that's that's the truth. You know.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Yesterday Lewer Ingram even had Ted Cruz on her show
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and she's like, you don't think it's a little weird
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: that Lindsay Graham is going over to Israel and she know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: coordinating with their intelligence agencies on how to pressure the president. Well,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: he loves America, that's what Ted Cruz, because he loves America. No,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. He even said at one point in the interview,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: He's like I'm going back to South Carolina to convince
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: them to send their sons and daughters to the Mid East.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I am just like God.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: But luck Yeah, and look, people of South Carolina. At
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: this point, you guys have had plenty of chances. I
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: don't know what the hell you guys are doing down there,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: But you know, the real point that remains is that
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: we are in some suicidal blood packed with this country.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: A significant part of our electorate is either compromised or ideological.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: For him, I do think it's ideological one because he's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: been saying.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: From column A little from column B.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, who knows, right, But
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I mean he's been saying in for twenty thirty years
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: like this is his entire worldview. But it does demonstrate
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the you know, what we're all into. And the Israelis
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: may say to David Ignatius that they're a little worried,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: but their calculus is always escalate, escalate, escalate, escalate. And
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you can also see how in the Gulf we are
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: dramatically losing a lot of our allies, like let's go
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and put to the next one, please be three good example.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: So you have the UAE, which says that the Emirates
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: reaffirms their commitment not to allow their airspace, territory waters
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to be used for any military actions against Iran. Now
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it's not even true, right, because you can already see
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: that there has obviously been you know, a lot of
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: launchers and other things, who knows, even with their own base.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: But what they're trying to do is signal to Iran
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: that they have nothing to do with this. You've also
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: had multiple instances now where the U is upset with
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Israel because they're saying, oh, hey, ISRAELI stop trying to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: leak that we are responsible for some attack on a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: desalination plan, and even the Iranians are responding. Recently, the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Pentagon posted a picture of some missile batteries that were
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: in the desert, and the Iranian foreign minister was like,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: thank you for confirming that you have these weapons on
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: their soil, which is the exact reason that we are
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: striking you.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: But the point Trump and his pressery yesterday said that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Golf Indras States had launched attacks, right.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows if that's true or not. Probably
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: true if you ask me. But let's go to the
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: next part because this is very interesting. This was passed
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: around everywhere and referenced it a little bit in our show.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Is this UAE billionaire who has been accusing the US
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: of dragging the region into the war and rejecting calls
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: from the Gulf States to join. He'd gave this long
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: missive I'm sure you saw it, criticized Trump, who authorized
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you to drag our region into war? And as I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: explained yesterday, there's no such thing as like an independent
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: billionaire in these countries, like you only speak and you
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: do it twice, especially if the government is like, yeah, man,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: go ahead. All of your you know, it's like China,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: like business is part of the state. That's literally how
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: they wield all of their power. It's all in, it's
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: intertwined for their own national interests. He is giving you know,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: these long like Bill Ackman style essays about how bad
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: America's decision is, how dangerous it is, how they've weakened
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: their country, how they have to question their alliances, how
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: they're not going to join you know, the Gulf the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: rest of the Golf States and being dragged in. It's
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the last all they want is for this conflict to end.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: And you can see why I mean look at this map.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one, guys, just to show
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you all. I mean, look at I mean to describe
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: this as not a regional a slash global war at
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: this point is preposterous. If you're watching our show, look
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: at the arrows of all of the different countries that
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: have either been attacked or been backed by or sorry
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: attacked by the United States, Israel, whether they've been bombed,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: whether Iran has bombed them, the type of rockets, the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: number of strikes, and we're talking about thousands at this
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: point of munitions that have all crossed all of these
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: different borders just in the span of what like ten
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: days that we've gone now so far, I believe that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the number is now twenty different countries that are now
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: directly or indirectly involved in this conflict. It's completely I mean,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it's gone literally global cypersts. Obviously, the French, the entire
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: French navy is on its way right now down to
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the Middle East. It's literally a catastrophe and it's only
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: been ten days. Yeas crazy.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Well, and to go back to our friend Lindsay Graham,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know who this man thinks he is, but
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: he's out there directly like threatening Saudi Arabian offering them
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: certain defense agreements if they go along and fully participate
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: in the bombing campaign.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: This is B two. Let's go and take a listen
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I only do my friends in Saudi Arabia.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: I've been your biggest champion. I think the Crown Prince
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: has taken Saudi Arabia in a completely different direction, in
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: a good way. But here's what I want to say
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: to Saudi Arabia to night. I'm willing to do a
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: mutual defense agreement with your country to give you protection
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: and perpetuity. Under the agreement I've been pushing and I
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: hope we can continue to talk about if you're attacked
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: by Ran, we would go to war for you.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Who are you?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I said, you said that you're.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Not like, you're not the president, you're not in the cabinet,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: you're not the Secretary of War, you're not the secretary
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: of State. You're now freelancing offering defense agreements to various countries.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: And I think the Saudi piece, though, is really important.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I understand why he's so upset about it because there
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: was some reporting that Saudi was low key or high
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: key interested in this war, supportive of this war. I
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: don't know whether that's true or not. The Saudi's denied it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: It could have been, you know, a sort of a
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: planted story. But in any case, they have a long
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: term rivalry with Iran, so they also stand to benefit
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: if Iran and if the Iranian government is weakened.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: But at the same.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Respect, you know, they are feeling very exposed. They don't
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: want their country to continue to be attacked. And so
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: even Saudi Arabia, which of course has been a very solid,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: long time ally of the US, probably our biggest, you know,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: one of our biggest allies in the region, our biggest
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: outside of Israel, if they're even doing the calculus of
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: like I don't know if we really want to be
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: involved with this, that shows you the thinking here and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: for i Ran, you know, winning this war for Iran
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: just means survival, right That's the ultimate goal, is just
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: surviving the onslaught and being able to continue with this
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: particular governmental regime. That's what winning looks like. But the
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: bigger aspirational goal would be to push the US out
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: of some of these countries in the region, And you know,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: it seems far fetched at this point. But if you're Saudi,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: if you're UAE in particular, and you're looking at the
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: fact that you thought you were getting protection from the
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: US and instead it's made you a target, well that
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: is going to change your calculus. That is going to
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: change how you're thinking about your relationship with this country
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: and what you're getting out of it. There was that
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: wasn't a Saudi analyst. It went on you know, Al
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Jazeera and was like was like, they're protect They're not
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: protecting us, They're protecting the Israelis. That's their number one priority.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And again that wouldn't have been said if it was
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: not sort of permitted in greenlit by the government. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: they're feeling very exposed. They're begging to be able to
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: buy more interceptors. We're like not in We've like ghosted them,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: not answering their phone calls. Sorry, we don't have any
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: available to sell you. And if we did, we would
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: you know, prioritize Israel over you. And they are feeling
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: like we instead of getting protection to the US, we
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: have been destroyed. And for you know, for UAE Dubai,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: like these places are not going to recover all these
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: influencers who brought in all these wealthy expats. They are
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: all fleeing, leaving their dogs behind by the way, which
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: disgusting to you know, tying them to just like dropping
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: them off at shelters that are overfull and tying them
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: to lampposts and whatever and just abandoning them there. But
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: in any case, they're all fleeing. The brand damage that
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Dubai and these other locales are sustaining is going to
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: be irreparable. I mean, you're talking about generations before that
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: goes back to the image that it had previously. So yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I understand why he's upset because this is not the
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: reaction that he wanted from these Gulf states as they
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: recalculate exactly what they're doing with their US defense partnerships.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: It is scary. One of the things I've been holding this.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: We're but to talk about this with Brandon Wiker, but
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: just to give you some more global picture, just this morning,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: South Korea and the United States confirming that significant parts
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of their THAD batteries those interceptors will be taken from
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the South Korean Peninsula for the Middle East, in addition
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: to Patriot interceptors all across the Indo Pacific region. So
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: we have burned through five point six billion in munitions
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: in two days, the first two days of the war.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Five point six billion dollars the munitions disaster. We will
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: never know the full picture because they're just going to
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: classify it to hell. Look at the actions. When you
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: start pulling stuff out of South Korea, that means you've
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: burned through the stockpile to the point where you think
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: it's going to be critical and you're going to have
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to use it one more week. It's been only been
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: ten days and we already have to do this. How
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: are we going to We're going to fight a war
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: with China? I mean, well, that's the that's the like
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the joke of this entire thing.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Forget about it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, and that also underscores that we've been talking about, Okay,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: roughly a billion dollars a day to fund.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: This that's not even true.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Definitely, what is that if you're.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Talking about just five point six billion in just munitions.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, God only knows what oil costs.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: During the war in Afghanistan, the estimate was that for
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: every soldier down range it was one million dollars in
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: order to keep them, and we had one hundred thousand
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: or some people. So you could do the math and
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: on how that works out, but it is, it is
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: such a nightmare for defense readiness for all these allies.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: This is going to seriously rewrite the entire way. A
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: lot of countries look at us, and it was all preventable.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: That's the craziest by choice, literal choice preventable. All right,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: let's get to Iran.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: All right, so we've covered the Americans, cover the Israelis.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about how the Iranians are thinking about this war.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Right now, CNN has a reporter on the ground who
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: was able to interview a top foreign policy advisor to
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: the Iyatola about their war aims and how they're looking
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: at things at this point. Let's take a listen to that.
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: So the United States, it's drastically degraded the Iranian military,
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: the capabilities as far as missiles, it's concerned, drones is concerned.
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: How much longer can you do this?
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: That is one of the false narratives that the United
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: States government is producing. Iranian military is quite strong, as
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: you see, because they have the motivation, they have the
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: arms that they need, which are producing Iran as a
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: matter of we are not dependent on any other country
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: for weapons on.
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: Arms, So your side is ready for a long war
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: if the United States and Israel choose that. Do you
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: consider this an existential threat to the Islamic Republic.
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: It is an extensional threat today is from the Republic,
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: and therefore we have to say it's full might as
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: we are doing now.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: Is your side seeking or will you seek a ceasefire?
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: With the United States at this point in time and
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: with Israel.
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: I don't see any room for diplomacy anymore because DONALDS
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: Frum have been deceiving others and not keeping his promises,
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: and we experienced this in two times of negotiations that
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: while we were nicaged in negotiation.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I mean that last part there is just in controvertible
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: fact that we have repeatedly used the promise as of
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: diplomacy as a ruse and a cover to actually commit
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: acts of war. So you know, it's not surprising that's
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: the way they're thinking about it. And of course the Iranians,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you know, they want to project strength, they wanted project stability.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: That is all in their interest. And of course you
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: should take any mine official, whether it's ours, the Israelis,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: or the Iranians with a million grains of salt. But
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I think that the logic is pretty straightforward. They just
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: need to survive. They understand they cannot allow Israel and
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: the US to walk away now having sustained some blow.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: But nothing really significant.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: You know, American consumers are not super feeling the pain
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: at the pump quite yet. The markets are volatile, but
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: they're just sort of roiling rain.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: You haven't had a huge collapse.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: You have not had enough pain to deter either the
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: US or America from doing this or sorry, the US
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: or Israel. They're one and the same at this point,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I guess, from doing the same thing again. And so
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I believe them when they say, look, we are locked
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: in for a long war. This is what we are planning,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: and so listen. They have surely sustained significant blows, right.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I think the Navy has been significantly degraded. I think
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: we have hit a lot of the visible missile launching sites.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I think we've all seeing the images of Tehran, these
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: apocalyptic images that you know, effectively carpet bombing. The number
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: of sites, thousands of targets hit, et cetera. So I'm
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: not saying they haven't been hit hard, but they are
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: fighting an asymmetric war where what we have to do
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: is I mean, the goals are shifting on a daily basis.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: We got a new list of supposed goals this morning
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: in this press conference. But what we have to do
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: requires extraordinary acts, including very likely putting ground troops on,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: you know, inside of Iran in order to you know,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: grab the loose nuclear material or foem and some sort
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: of regime change or whatever. And all they have to
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: do is hold on and make the price unbearably high.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: For us and for the Israel.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: It's a fight of survival versus a fight basically of
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: choice of convenience. It's like a side quest basically. Yeah,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: that's right at this point. I mean, and that's why
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I use legacy, and Trump's legacy, Israel's existential biblical fantasies.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Israel's like Third Temple fantasies. But for us, I mean,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: for me, seven killed too many. For them, they've lost
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: over one thousand people. They barely even blinking an eye.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, we remember, if you roll the tape, we
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: were like, look, guys, they are prepared to take ninety
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: percent casualties at the top. They are ready to fight
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: to the death. I do not think that we understand.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: We haven't fought an enemy like that, well actually recently
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: with the Taliban, but like really at a large industrial
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: scale since Vietnam, to like really understand what it means. Remember,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: we won the tactical war in Vietnam. Every time I
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: make the joke about mac V Tehran, the joke is
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: that it's called Military Assistance Command Vietnam, and this what
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: they would do in the Vietnam Wars. Today, we killed
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty VC in the firm and we
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: dropped X amount of bombs, the same amount of bombs
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that we dropped on Dresden some twenty years ago in America.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Was like wow, yeah, like we killed two hundred and fifty.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Statistics were all fake, but the point was like did
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: it work? No, I mean, we ended up losing the
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: war in Vietnam. We dropped x amount of munitions in
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Operation Rolling Thunder than the tire Second World War, and
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: everyone was like wow, like, look at us taking the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: fight to North Vietnam and the North Vietnam ameers were like,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: we don't care. We'll take a million casualties and we're
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: just gonna keep fighting. They're like, this is a war
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: of colonialism to the death, and whatever it takes, no
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: matter what, we will outlast you until our you know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: their leader literally died and they kept the war going forever.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: They won that war. That's all you have to do. Survive, survive,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and ultimately that's how you're able to beat you know,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: the same with Afghanistan, not just US Soviet Union. How
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: did the Soviet Union, I wouldn't say it broke their back,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: but it really hurt them with their ten year long engagement.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: They blew the shit out of that country. And you know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: if you think Israel is unrestrained, the Soviets fought that
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: way in Afghanistan. They didn't care at all. They murdered
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: women and children, bombing campaigns, helicopter d brutal, brutal stuff.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: They still lost, right, and that was just the Taliban,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: that was just generic Moujahadeen funded by the United States.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: So you can see the storybook, you know, for all
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: of this over the years, which is why for them.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: That's another thing, why do we not give credit to
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: our enemies, like we look at them as barbarian you know, idiots,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: or say in one of the you know, like all
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: the stuff I grew up in the mid two thousands
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: hearing about these people. The current Iyatola, he speaks fluent English.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: If you're wondering, do you hear that guy too? These
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: people are very well educated. They're not, you know, stupid.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: They've studied us for a long time. Forty seven years
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: that we're always talking about, Well that's forty seven years
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: of us studying them in forty seven years of them
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: studying us. These are highly educated people who have thought
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a lot about their collective defense. Now listen, I'm not
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: going to defend every decision they make. I think they
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: made a lot of screw ups along the way, but
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: we are where we are. Like, you have to respect
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: your enemy and the people who you are fighting.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: And it is very clear after only ten days that
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: this has not gone the way that we thought it would,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: and that they have operated not just militarily but strategically.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Their you know, their ability to draw the whole region
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: into a conflict, to plunge into global chaos was exactly
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: what you would do if you're trying to fight asymmetric war.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Even the drone program. You have to give credit where
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: it's due. They studied the environment, and they go, Okay,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of money. What's there, you know,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: critical Where can we strike them in an asymmetric fashion?
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Billion dollar bad system. Ah, We'll create these drones and
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: they will battle test them in Ukraine with our Russian friends,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and we'll get years and years of targeting data and
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: see how they can get shot down and refine the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: process and all that. I mean, that's a smart military strategy.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: That's what you do when you're expecting a conflict with
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: the West. And obviously that has been the number one
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: problem that we face now on the battlefield. So you
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: have to respect these people because if you don't, you're
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: going to fall into some propaganda you know, effort or whatever,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and that's how you end up with tons of casualties.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Well, and I do want to emphasize the military top
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: brass new that this would be a problem, right, They
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: understood that there were incredible vulnerabilities here for the US.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: They at least had some sense, seemingly. I mean they,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: you know, were leaking to a number of newspapers exactly
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: some of the problems that we have in fact encounter.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: But I think you know, because you have Trump who
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: has this messianic view of himself and who feels like, oh,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: all the experts told me that I couldn't do X
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: and Y and Z, and I did it anyway, and
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I was proven right.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: He just was not.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: He did not want to hear it, and he wouldn't
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: hear it. He thought, oh, well, you know, I had
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: all these people warning that it would be a disaster
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: in Venezuela, and it went so well. And all these
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: people warning, all these Panicans warning before the Twelve Day
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: War in Iran, and look at what a glorious success
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: that was and how I got to have my mission
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: accomplished moment. So I'm just going to go back in.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: And by the way, my friend BB is telling me
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: that this is going to go great. So we're going
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: to do it all over again. And I think to
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: your point, you know, the internal view of the Iranians
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: is that they are not stupid, that they are you know,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: an adversary that is capable of larning and strategic thought, etc.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: What is sold to the American people is that they're
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: just crazy, you know, theocratic mad men, and so they're
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: it's totally irrational and you can't deal with them, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I think Trump, because he's a stupid and uneducated person,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: basically bought the public story about what the Iranian government was.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: And again I'm sure is being fed that by Lindsay
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Graham and by bb Net, Nahoo, et cetera. And so
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: he comes in like a bowl in a china shop
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: and now has found himself in a trap that he
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: cannot figure out how to get out of. And you know,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: one of I think the probably tactical mistakes from the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Americans and the Israelis was assassinating the Iatola.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: We could put C two up on the screen.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: There were gigantic celebrations in the street in Tehran celebrating
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: the you know, the naming of the new Ayatola, of course,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: the son of the previous Ayatola. And so quite contrary
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: to the idea that there was going to be some
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: uprising against the government and that this government would fall,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: in fact you've had the predictable opposite impact, which is
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: a hardening of nationalists sentiment. Now that doesn't mean there
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: aren't still plenty of people in Iran who are not
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: happy with the you know, Islamic theocratic regime, who would
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: like ultimately some sort of different form of government. But
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: right now you and your family and your country are
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: under attack. Of course there's going to be a rally
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: around the flag effect. Of course that is going to happen.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: And that's much more of what we're seeing, at least
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: manifesting visibly in the streets is a hardening and a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: support for the existing government. Trump floated, Hey, maybe, you know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll assassinate this new guy as well. You know,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't play ball with us, which of course
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: he's not going to, they could well do that. They
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: could well accomplish that. You think that that's going to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: be the end of the you know, this particular Iranian regime.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: No, of course not. They would just appoint a new one.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: And you know, you know this is the case because
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: you see how they operated with Hamas, the number of
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: times that they killed, you know, all the senior leadership,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: whether they were political leadership or military leadership.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Did that destroy Hamas?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: No, and the Iranians are much better funded and are
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: much more sort of deeply entrenched frankly than Hamas's. You
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: can see with Hesbula as well, they thought Hesbela was
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: dead and gone. I think the Israeli public thought basically
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: HESBUL after the whole deeper attack.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: That that was it, end of story.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Heswell is able to fight back against the Israeli incursion
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: into Lebanon right now, and the Israelis the IDF on
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  Speaker 2: the ground are sustaining some significant blows at the hands
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  Speaker 2: of HESBLA right now. So were they set back? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Was there a time period were they're extremely weakened?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely? Are they as strong as they were before? Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Are they still able to exist as as a coherent
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  Speaker 2: organization and strike some blows against you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And the Iranians are much better equipped to sustain
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  Speaker 2: these blows than either of those organizations.
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  Speaker 1: That's all very very true. Last thing I think C
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  Speaker 1: four let's put this up there on the screen from
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  Speaker 1: drop site, they spoke with Iranian officials, senior official there
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  Speaker 1: saying it is unlikely Iran would accept any temporary deal
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  Speaker 1: that leaves open the possibility that another war could be
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  Speaker 1: launched in the near future. Iran will not accept any
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  Speaker 1: ceasefire at this stage because what is pursuing is not
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  Speaker 1: a mere end to hostilities, which canon will be easily
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  Speaker 1: broken by Israel in the US, but it determs restoring
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  Speaker 1: outcome that creates the conditions for lasting, enforceable settlement. The
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  Speaker 1: strategic logic is it holding out now despite the cost,
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  Speaker 1: is the precondition for an agreement that actually holds. So look,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we box them in to a single corner,
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  Speaker 1: and when you do that, you can't You just have
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  Speaker 1: to sit there and take the pain for as long
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  Speaker 1: as possible and hope that the other side gives out.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think it's coming.
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  Speaker 2: And they want to give us a taste of our
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  Speaker 2: own medicine in terms of the economic warfare that we've
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  Speaker 2: been waging against them for decades. They know that they
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  Speaker 2: have control over this incredibly important strategic choke point. Now
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be very damaging to their economy
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  Speaker 2: as well, but again for them, it's ex istential. For us,
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  Speaker 2: we don't even want to be doing this. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're like, look, two hundred dollars a barrel or well
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  Speaker 2: you want that, Let's keep going, keep doing it, Let's
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  Speaker 2: continue in this direction because we are going to make
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  Speaker 2: you pay.
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  Speaker 3: And I just will you know, remind that we.
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  Speaker 2: Played earlier that side of a professor who has some
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  Speaker 2: contacts within the Iranian government, who was based in Tehran,
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  Speaker 2: saying we want to be in this at least until
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  Speaker 2: the mid terms. They want there to be an economic price,
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  Speaker 2: devastating economic price. But all of us, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: all of you out there are going to pay, and
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  Speaker 2: the entire world, frankly is going to pay. They want
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  Speaker 2: there to be a devastating economic price and a devastating
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  Speaker 2: political price for this president and his party.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what they're committed to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to Brandon Wiker. He's a great military analyst,
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  Speaker 1: break down everything that's happening with Iran. Let's get to it.