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Is L.A. Guns Officially a Tribute Band? The Shitter Session Exposed! + Throwback · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_01: Hi, I'm Andy Scott from Sweet and you're watching CMS TV.
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SPEAKER_03: From the vicious circle release that is L.A.
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SPEAKER_03: Guns with Long Time Dead.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: Apparently, L.A.
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SPEAKER_03: Guns played a show, and Tracy played it from a bathroom.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that is correct.
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SPEAKER_03: I have plenty to say on this.
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SPEAKER_03: I hope you're securing your friendship.
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SPEAKER_03: You know what?
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not worried about it at all.
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SPEAKER_03: Cause this is a fucking Bush league bitch move.
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SPEAKER_03: Anyway,
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SPEAKER_03: you look at this,
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SPEAKER_03: sorry,
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SPEAKER_03: but now,
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SPEAKER_03: now here's the,
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you know the whole premise of the gig or whatever,
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SPEAKER_03: but I've got,
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SPEAKER_03: uh,
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SPEAKER_03: I've got the story pulled up,
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SPEAKER_03: but you know,
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SPEAKER_03: I'll tell the premise and then you can read the story.
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SPEAKER_03: Sounds fine.
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SPEAKER_03: As I've heard,
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SPEAKER_03: because I've heard from a bunch of people that are in the know,
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SPEAKER_03: a lot of different things.
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SPEAKER_03: So the basic story is they were playing in Plano,
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SPEAKER_03: Texas,
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SPEAKER_03: and they played a day gig,
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SPEAKER_03: and it's fucking hot in Texas.
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And Tracy,
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the fucking libtard that he is,
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is now somehow having anxiety attacks from heat.
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SPEAKER_03: If it gets to be too hot,
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SPEAKER_03: He has anxiety attacks and can't perform.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, I have heard this.
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SPEAKER_03: The former founding member and former saxophonist,
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SPEAKER_03: woodwind player for Chicago,
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SPEAKER_03: Walter Perizader,
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SPEAKER_03: he had the same thing.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: They, during some of the, later on in the,
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SPEAKER_03: You know,
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SPEAKER_03: in the history of Chicago,
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SPEAKER_03: he would not play a lot of the shows where it was a hot show.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: he had played maybe half the shows during the tour,
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SPEAKER_03: but he had an anxiety issue when it came to the heat.
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SPEAKER_03: So he had a stand-in.
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SPEAKER_03: So why is this?
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happening with tracy guns why can't he lord knows they've had
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15 fucking guitarists
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in in la guns you're gonna tell me they couldn't find one guy
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to stand in because
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it was too hot for the mighty guns well it's tracy i guess i
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don't know i don't
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know the answer i just know i've heard of that i i know that
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that's a real thing
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i'm not saying it's not a real thing what i'm saying is 35
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years of playing gigs
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SPEAKER_03: yeah
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If it's such a real thing,
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and this is my main bitch about the whole thing.
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SPEAKER_03: If it's such a real thing,
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SPEAKER_03: why are you booking a fucking show in the end of June in Plano,
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SPEAKER_03: Texas in the daytime?
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SPEAKER_03: Outdoors.
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SPEAKER_03: Maybe it's just a matter of making money.
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SPEAKER_03: This is a paying gig.
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SPEAKER_03: We've got to pay our bills, whatever the case may be.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know the answer.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: That that's exactly what I'm thinking.
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SPEAKER_03: It is, is that he doesn't have any money has to make his nut.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, do you think these guys have any money?
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think they do.
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SPEAKER_03: No, certainly not.
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SPEAKER_03: But I know this,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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who else was probably having panic attacks from being out in
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the heat four times as
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SPEAKER_03: long as Tracy,
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SPEAKER_03: the goddamn fans.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But they're not performing.
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SPEAKER_03: They're standing there watching.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: For four times as long.
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SPEAKER_03: Four times as long.
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SPEAKER_03: They're not getting any money back.
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So the way this worked out,
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Tracy found this bathroom that's next to the stage.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: And I have a picture of it.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me find it.
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SPEAKER_03: Here it is.
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SPEAKER_03: There's the bathroom right next to the stage.
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SPEAKER_03: I see that.
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SPEAKER_03: So there it is.
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SPEAKER_03: I see it's made out of a shipping container.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there you go.
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SPEAKER_03: Maybe you shipped it there.
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SPEAKER_03: I could have.
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SPEAKER_03: Did you ship to Plano, Texas?
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SPEAKER_03: But so Tracy's tucked away in this bathroom while the band is on stage.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: So let me forward to some other pictures here.
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SPEAKER_03: So here is what Tracy decided makes more sense.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me go to this picture.
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SPEAKER_03: So there's Tracy.
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SPEAKER_03: He's got his effects rig on the floor.
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SPEAKER_03: He's got his monitor up there.
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SPEAKER_03: That must have been a very echoey little room in there.
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SPEAKER_03: Of course, but at least it was cool, right?
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SPEAKER_03: So I have so many problems with this.
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SPEAKER_03: This is a straight ripoff of the fans.
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SPEAKER_03: Any way you look at this, this is a ripoff.
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SPEAKER_03: Now,
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SPEAKER_03: from what I was told,
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now I was not there and I have not found any video to confirm
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or deny this,
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SPEAKER_03: but from what I was told,
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there's no video of Tracy playing live that was broadcast like
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on the screen.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Because there's, I think it's, see, there's the screen.
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SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: they did not broadcast Tracy playing on that screen.
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Basically you have these guys over here and a big hole where
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Tracy would be.
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So,
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so he's not playing,
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he's playing,
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but the band,
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the band is out there in the fucking heat.
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SPEAKER_03: If you were a fan, if you were an LA guns fan, which you are,
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SPEAKER_03: What would you think if you got this?
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SPEAKER_03: And they said, oh, it's too hot for Tracy.
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SPEAKER_03: He's going to play from the shitter.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, again, I don't know how they announced it.
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SPEAKER_03: Did they say he's playing in the bathroom?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they announced that.
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I'm just following up here just to see what,
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you know,
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the lay of the land,
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as it were.
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SPEAKER_03: Now, you've been around bands.
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SPEAKER_03: You've been around this band.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have.
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SPEAKER_03: Phil.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't know who these other guys.
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SPEAKER_03: I know the drummer is Sean Duncan from Armored Saint.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know this current lineup.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, I know Phil and I know Tracy pretty well.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
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SPEAKER_03: What do you think Phil,
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SPEAKER_03: old British guy,
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SPEAKER_03: what do you think he thinks when his guitar player says,
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SPEAKER_03: yeah,
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SPEAKER_03: it's too hot for me.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm going to go sit in the shitter and play.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what?
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SPEAKER_03: I know Phil well enough that he doesn't like to rock the boat.
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He he's not,
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he's a get along to,
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you know,
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go along to get along kind of guy.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: So you think he's good with it?
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I,
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you know,
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the thing is,
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is he may not agree with it,
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but,
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but he won't be vocal about it.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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He's just happy to be there and he's just happy that fans still
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come out to see
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SPEAKER_03: them and he's still happy.
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SPEAKER_03: He's got a gig.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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that's his attitude now from what i another thing that i heard
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tracy played a
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guitar solo from the bathroom a solo okay what do these guys do
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while tracy's
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SPEAKER_03: playing the solo
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SPEAKER_03: They exit the stage, maybe.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, did the bassist and the drummer play along?
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SPEAKER_03: Did the second guitarist, did they play along?
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SPEAKER_03: Or was it just Tracy only?
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I know this.
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SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't be happy.
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SPEAKER_03: I would not be happy if I was a fan.
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SPEAKER_03: And all of a sudden they're like,
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SPEAKER_03: okay,
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SPEAKER_03: here's Tracy guns and the stage emptied and you just heard,
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SPEAKER_03: would you be happy with that?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, it would be weird.
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SPEAKER_03: I would say that.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying is, would you be happy with that?
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SPEAKER_03: No,
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SPEAKER_03: because you're just like,
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SPEAKER_03: well,
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SPEAKER_03: am I listening to a real performance or is this a recorded thing or,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: what is it?
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SPEAKER_03: Now, another thing that I heard from this gig.
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i have i had my spies at this gig you've heard a lot of things
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i've had quite a few
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calls and texts and stuff about this gig and you inform me who
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who these who these
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informants are i will inform you but i will not inform the
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public uh where's neely
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SPEAKER_03: here neely um
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can understand that.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I get that.
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SPEAKER_03: Those are the two that I've heard from.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: So, another thing that I heard.
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SPEAKER_03: So, Tracy's in the shitter.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: He's in the bathroom.
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SPEAKER_03: Faster Pussycat played in front of them.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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And now they can't get into the shower after playing a show in
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110 degree heat.
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SPEAKER_03: Because Tracy has the bathroom.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: And he's playing his show from the bathroom.
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So these guys have to get into,
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I don't know if they're on a bus or a minivan.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't know how much money Faster Pussycat makes these days.
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SPEAKER_03: I highly doubt they had a bus.
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SPEAKER_03: Nobody has a bus these days.
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SPEAKER_03: Everybody does fly-ins.
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SPEAKER_03: And I have a feeling that they probably had a hotel.
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SPEAKER_03: So they probably had to go back to the hotel and shower up or whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm sure they did.
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SPEAKER_03: I know this, though.
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Would you want to get into a bus with four guys that just
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sweated for 45 minutes on a stage?
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SPEAKER_03: That's part of the gig, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's not, though.
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If the guy from the next band wasn't hogging the fucking
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bathroom,
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they could have cleaned up.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you bathroom hog.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, he's taking up the fucking bathroom.
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SPEAKER_03: And that's the only bathroom there?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, it's probably the only one with a shower.
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SPEAKER_03: It's probably the backstage area.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know, man.
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SPEAKER_03: It's a mess.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, let me read the story here.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, go ahead, because I got plenty more to say.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, fair enough.
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SPEAKER_03: On Thursday,
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SPEAKER_03: June 23rd,
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SPEAKER_03: LA Guns guitarist Tracy Guns performed his band's entire set in Plano,
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SPEAKER_03: Texas from the backstage bathroom.
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The 56-year-old guitarist explained the unique situation on
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social media posts prior to the gig.
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SPEAKER_03: He wrote, a lot of people know I have a panic disorder.
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SPEAKER_03: I know that to be a fact.
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SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not arguing that he does.
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I'm saying don't book a fucking gig if you know you have this,
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don't fuck your fans.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh, well I have it in 95% under control.
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SPEAKER_03: Heat is the remaining trigger and I simply cannot play on the heat,
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SPEAKER_03: but we found a solution for today's show.
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I will be playing in a comfy bathroom directly behind the stage
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where the air,
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SPEAKER_03: where there is air conditioning.
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SPEAKER_03: I will do an Instagram live stream during the set.
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If you all need to watch me play,
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I apologize for this,
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for my crazy brain.
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SPEAKER_03: For the concert,
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LA Guns roadies ran cable to the nearby bathroom where Guns set
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audio equipment up
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SPEAKER_03: so he could listen to and perform with his bandmates on stage.
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LA Guns bassist Johnny Martin came up with the idea to have
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Tracy play from the bathroom.
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SPEAKER_03: So you can blame Johnny Martin.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I blame the whole band for doing this.
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SPEAKER_03: For explaining in a social media post,
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Tracy wasn't going to play the show at all because his anxiety
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is still pretty
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SPEAKER_03: prevalent.
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He said to me that he wasn't going to do the show because the
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heat was just too
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SPEAKER_03: unbearable to his condition.
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SPEAKER_03: And that was the right decision to not play the show.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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And that we'll just have Ace Vaughn Johnson,
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LA Gunn's other guitarist cover his parts.
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SPEAKER_03: So basically us play as a four piece.
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SPEAKER_03: I propose that we find an air conditioned spot near the stage and voila,
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SPEAKER_03: here we are much better than him opting out altogether.
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SPEAKER_03: Wrong.
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SPEAKER_03: Fucking genius.
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SPEAKER_03: Wrong.
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SPEAKER_03: This is not much better.
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SPEAKER_03: This is way worse.
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Dude,
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for the integrity of your band,
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is this not the most embarrassing thing ever?
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SPEAKER_03: Come on.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't find it embarrassing.
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SPEAKER_03: Some people look at it a different way,
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and I have a feeling that some of your bias here is just
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because of your thoughts
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SPEAKER_03: on Tracy.
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SPEAKER_03: I can't stand Tracy.
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I'll be the first one to admit I was thrilled when I saw this
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story because of my
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SPEAKER_03: disgust for this fucking guy.
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SPEAKER_03: But see, here's the thing.
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When it comes to people and their compassion,
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you know,
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they don't have the same bias as you do.
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SPEAKER_03: So they don't, they don't look at this as he's ripping us off, man.
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SPEAKER_03: It's just like, oh man, I hate to be Tracy guns.
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SPEAKER_03: Glad he figured out a way of being able to still perform.
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SPEAKER_03: Nope.
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SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not giving them that.
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SPEAKER_00: Why do any shows?
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SPEAKER_03: Why do any shows then?
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SPEAKER_03: Why book shows in the fucking summer?
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SPEAKER_03: He's got summer gigs booked all the way through fucking August.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but they're not all as hot as Texas.
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SPEAKER_03: So don't book Texas.
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SPEAKER_03: He said he's had this for 35 years.
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SPEAKER_03: But it's part of the package tour.
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SPEAKER_03: They're on a package tour.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I noticed they didn't refund the fucking meet and greets.
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SPEAKER_03: I noticed somehow he found a way to show up for the meet and greets.
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SPEAKER_03: But they probably did it in like a...
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SPEAKER_03: a room or a tent or something.
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SPEAKER_03: He was able to come up on the stage to say, thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: He was able to come up on the stage to wave goodbye.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, but, but,
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being guitarist and moving around and doing physicality and you
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know under the hot
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lights as well as the heat of the and again i this this is all
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subjective me i read
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something like this i'm just like oh okay cool and then i move
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on yeah you on the
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SPEAKER_03: other hand it's like i want to drive a stake in this fucking
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SPEAKER_03: Fucking right I do.
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SPEAKER_03: You're like a girl woman screaming about abortion.
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SPEAKER_03: I am.
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SPEAKER_03: I absolutely am.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'll tell you exactly why.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me find it here.
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SPEAKER_03: There was a show.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know what these shows cost.
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SPEAKER_03: I honestly don't.
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SPEAKER_03: But there's a like show.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me share this screen right now with you.
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SPEAKER_03: Share this.
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SPEAKER_03: This is a show that's coming up.
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SPEAKER_03: It's Winger and Warrant and a bunch of other bands.
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SPEAKER_03: Whoever Don's bodyguard is, his band is on this.
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SPEAKER_03: Garden of Eden?
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: It's some dude that knows Don.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: Anyway, it doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_03: The basic gig is Warrant, Winger, and a bunch of fucking other bands.
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SPEAKER_03: $90.
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SPEAKER_03: $90 fucking bucks.
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SPEAKER_03: Tom Kiefer...
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LA Guns and fucking Faster Pussycat,
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that's got to be in that similar range,
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doesn't it?
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SPEAKER_03: Between $60 and $90?
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SPEAKER_03: I would say you're probably correct.
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If I spent $60 to $90 and I'm standing out in the fucking sun
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and every other band
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SPEAKER_03: guy on every other band can stand out in the fucking sun,
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SPEAKER_03: And play their gig.
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But this entitled douchebag fucking says,
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oh,
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I'm going to go sit in the bathroom.
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SPEAKER_03: And he's the namesake of the band.
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SPEAKER_03: That is fucking bullshit, man.
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SPEAKER_03: That's bullshit.
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SPEAKER_03: You can't tell me that's not bullshit.
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If he was Johnny Martin or Ace Vaughn Johnson,
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okay,
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go play in the fucking bathroom.
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SPEAKER_03: Nobody knows who you are.
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SPEAKER_03: Well,
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so when Tommy Lee got off the drums kit and had Tommy Clufetta
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spill in with him
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SPEAKER_03: because he was unable to perform.
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SPEAKER_03: Should have canceled the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Really?
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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You're paying for a Motley Crue reunion and you're getting four
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fucking songs?
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SPEAKER_03: Fuck you.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: fucking $5,000 a ticket.
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SPEAKER_03: You cancel that gig, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_03: You cancel the,
17:20
SPEAKER_03: if you're banned,
17:21
SPEAKER_03: if the main members in a band like LA guns can't show up,
17:26
SPEAKER_03: then you cancel the gig end of story.
17:29
SPEAKER_03: There's no way around it.
17:30
SPEAKER_03: What if Tom Kiefer said it's too hot?
17:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, Tom Kiefer is the guy at the band.
17:35
SPEAKER_03: He's the, he's the main focus of the band.
17:39
is tracy guns to la guns well phil lewis and and steve reilly
17:44
carried on la guns
17:46
without tracy guns yeah i know but the band's not called la
17:49
lewis i understand but
17:51
they went under la guns regardless of that for for decades yeah
17:56
without tracy in
17:57
SPEAKER_03: the
17:57
SPEAKER_03: I understand.
17:57
SPEAKER_03: So that makes it acceptable that he fucked the band previously?
18:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying that it isn't really about the namesake.
18:05
SPEAKER_03: It's about the songs and the performance.
18:09
SPEAKER_03: Tracy wasn't part of LA Guns for a long time,
18:12
but yet still people came out to see LA Guns as long as Phil
18:16
Lewis was singing.
18:17
SPEAKER_03: But not like they do now.
18:18
SPEAKER_03: What do you mean?
18:21
SPEAKER_03: I mean, now they have a bigger draw because it's Phil and Tracy.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, of course.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: But Tracy's not playing.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: He's sitting in the shitter.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: But you're going to blame him for one show?
18:32
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I am.
18:33
SPEAKER_03: Cancel the show.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: I'm absolutely... I would be furious.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: Dude...
18:39
i'm looking at the whole picture i know you're looking at it oh
18:42
it's one show it's
18:42
no big deal there's fucking there's 1500 people there that
18:46
shelled out their money
18:48
to see fucking tracy goddamn guns as part of the package as
18:52
part of the package but
18:54
probably i'm going to guess a good majority of people who are
18:59
there are there to
19:00
SPEAKER_03: see tom keefer perform cinderella songs
19:03
fair enough but if they were on the edge if they were on the if
19:06
they were teetering
19:07
and they were like well la guns is going to be there too i'll
19:10
fucking go see tracy
19:11
guns in that same weird 80s way that people will go see a
19:16
docking show these days
19:17
because lynch is going to play those three songs on the stage
19:20
with don you know
19:22
SPEAKER_03: it's it's in that same vein and this guy's sitting out no
19:28
SPEAKER_03: And when I say he's sitting on the shitter, I'll show you the video.
19:31
SPEAKER_03: He's literally sitting on the shitter.
19:33
SPEAKER_03: Oh, there's a convenience stool in there.
19:38
SPEAKER_03: The convenience stool was sitting on the stool.
19:41
SPEAKER_03: He's a fucking shit sandwich.
19:44
SPEAKER_03: So funny.
19:46
SPEAKER_03: He's a dude.
19:47
SPEAKER_03: It's not acceptable.
19:48
SPEAKER_03: No way.
19:50
SPEAKER_03: It's not acceptable to you.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: It's, it's not acceptable to more than me.
19:54
SPEAKER_03: And I know that to be a hundred percent true.
19:57
I know from people that I've heard,
19:59
the Tom Kiefer people were not happy about this.
20:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm sure.
20:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure.
20:04
But,
20:04
you know,
20:05
again,
20:05
and I'm not making excuses for it or saying it's acceptable.
20:08
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying, what are you going to do?
20:11
SPEAKER_03: You're going to say,
20:11
SPEAKER_03: well,
20:11
we're just pulling out of this show because the heat is just
20:14
too much for my
20:15
SPEAKER_03: anxiety.
20:16
SPEAKER_03: But they had another solution.
20:18
SPEAKER_03: They didn't take it.
20:19
SPEAKER_03: Just play the gig without Tracy.
20:22
SPEAKER_03: But the thing is, essentially, they did play the gig without Tracy.
20:27
SPEAKER_03: But they made a point that, well, he's in the bathroom playing.
20:30
SPEAKER_03: That's just sad.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: Well, again, they said, well, we could play it as a four-piece.
20:36
Well,
20:36
essentially,
20:37
from a visual standpoint,
20:39
they did play it as a four-piece.
20:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
20:41
SPEAKER_03: and they should have gone with that instead of saying,
20:43
SPEAKER_03: well,
20:43
this guy's a goddamn superhero because all this fucking he's so
20:48
fucking brave with
20:49
SPEAKER_03: his way of dealing with the anxiety in the air.
20:52
SPEAKER_03: Fuck you.
20:53
SPEAKER_03: Fuck your anxiety.
20:55
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to hear it.
20:56
SPEAKER_03: You sat in a shitter and fucked your fans.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: Admit it.
20:59
So if they played the show sans Tracy and he stayed at the
21:04
hotel or whatever.
21:05
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't have a problem with it.
21:07
SPEAKER_03: But because he was at the gig and he played,
21:10
SPEAKER_03: but he still had the visual effect of the four piece without him,
21:15
SPEAKER_03: you had a problem with that.
21:16
SPEAKER_03: I absolutely correct it.
21:18
absolutely correct you're about as rational as the
21:22
anti-abortion i don't care i
21:24
don't care he's the namesake of the band and he's there and
21:28
he's taking meet and
21:29
greet money he's taking meet and greet money 500 bucks a hit
21:35
500 for the meet and
21:38
greets i don't know that that's the cost but even if it's a
21:41
hundred dollars did he
21:42
SPEAKER_03: meet the fans
21:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
21:44
I guess they lined him up with the urinal and fucking traded a
21:47
urinal cake for an
21:48
SPEAKER_03: autograph,
21:49
SPEAKER_03: probably.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: But you're saying,
21:51
the way that you're trying to phrase this is that he took meet
21:55
and greet money,
21:56
SPEAKER_03: but he didn't show up to do the meet and greet.
21:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying that if I owned that venue,
22:02
SPEAKER_03: I paid for those five guys to get up on a stage and perform.
22:06
SPEAKER_03: Not to have them perform in the fucking bathroom.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: Why even get off the fucking bus?
22:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, see, here's the thing.
22:14
SPEAKER_03: In one breath,
22:15
it would be fine if he didn't play at all and they played as a
22:19
four-piece without
22:21
SPEAKER_03: Tracy.
22:21
SPEAKER_03: Correct.
22:22
Tracy was there and he did play,
22:25
but visually you didn't see him,
22:27
so that's a problem.
22:28
SPEAKER_03: No, that's not the exact reason that that's a problem.
22:31
SPEAKER_03: I agree with the sentiment there, but it's not why it's a problem.
22:36
Why it's a problem is because there's a certain expectation
22:40
when you're going to
22:41
SPEAKER_03: see a band that the band is going to perform on stage.
22:47
SPEAKER_03: Part of the concert experience is seeing the guys.
22:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
22:51
SPEAKER_03: but you said you would be fine if Tracy didn't perform at all,
22:55
SPEAKER_03: but the other four dudes did.
22:57
SPEAKER_03: I would because that's more of an accepted practice.
23:00
SPEAKER_03: It's an accepted practice.
23:01
SPEAKER_03: How many bands go and do this without like,
23:04
SPEAKER_03: Oh,
23:04
SPEAKER_03: so-and-so's out because they got COVID or whatever,
23:06
SPEAKER_03: but they carry on.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: But the thing is,
23:08
SPEAKER_03: is that whether Tracy was there or was not there,
23:12
SPEAKER_03: the fans got the same visual of four dudes on stage playing LA gun songs,
23:18
SPEAKER_03: which you're fine with if Tracy wasn't there,
23:20
SPEAKER_03: but Tracy was there,
23:22
but they're still getting the exact same visual with four dudes
23:25
on the stage and
23:26
SPEAKER_03: Dude,
23:27
SPEAKER_03: if you were doing your job,
23:29
SPEAKER_03: if you were working at your place,
23:31
SPEAKER_03: and your bathroom was just more comfortable for you,
23:35
SPEAKER_03: and you went in and told your bosses,
23:37
SPEAKER_03: well,
23:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to go sit in the bathroom and take calls today.
23:40
SPEAKER_03: Your bosses would be like,
23:41
SPEAKER_03: the fuck you are,
23:42
SPEAKER_03: sit at your desk,
23:43
SPEAKER_03: because that's where you do your job.
23:45
SPEAKER_03: The way you're framing this is as if he was a prima donna.
23:48
SPEAKER_03: He is being a prima donna.
23:50
SPEAKER_03: No, no, I disagree.
23:51
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
23:53
SPEAKER_03: No,
23:54
SPEAKER_03: he's not saying,
23:55
SPEAKER_03: I can't perform with the band because I'm a prima donna and I need air
24:00
SPEAKER_03: conditioning.
24:01
SPEAKER_03: He's saying,
24:02
SPEAKER_03: I have an issue that is preventing me from being on stage,
24:07
SPEAKER_03: but the solution is,
24:09
SPEAKER_03: if I can play here,
24:10
SPEAKER_03: I can still play and still give you a,
24:13
SPEAKER_03: you know,
24:13
SPEAKER_00: play.
24:13
SPEAKER_03: That's not a solution.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: It is a solution.
24:15
SPEAKER_03: It's not.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: Well, then why not just stay home and fucking pipe it in?
24:19
SPEAKER_03: Why not do it over fucking Zoom?
24:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:23
SPEAKER_03: I honestly,
24:24
what is the difference between doing it from his home and zoom
24:27
and doing it from 20
24:28
SPEAKER_03: feet away?
24:29
SPEAKER_03: If it's not on the screen anyway, what difference does it make?
24:32
Well,
24:32
I think you should be more angry at Johnny Martin for coming up
24:36
with that solution.
24:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm angry at all of them.
24:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm angry.
24:39
SPEAKER_03: I'm angry at all.
24:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm especially angry at Tracy because this is bullshit.
24:43
SPEAKER_03: Don't play the show.
24:45
SPEAKER_03: Don't book gigs in fucking Texas.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: So,
24:48
SPEAKER_03: so again,
24:49
SPEAKER_03: I just want to reiterate if he,
24:51
if he stayed at the hotel and the other four dudes went out
24:56
there and perform their
24:57
SPEAKER_03: obligation,
24:58
SPEAKER_03: that would have been perfectly fine.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: Yes, absolutely.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: Correct.
25:05
SPEAKER_03: I just can't figure out the rationale behind that at all.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: Because it's fucking...
25:14
There's a certain expectation of what a performance is that
25:18
you're paying for at a
25:19
SPEAKER_03: concert.
25:20
SPEAKER_03: But the expectation is that Tracy Guns would be there,
25:24
SPEAKER_03: but if he stayed at the hotel and didn't show up at all,
25:28
SPEAKER_03: isn't the expectation still blown?
25:30
SPEAKER_03: No.
25:32
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, but it's less blown because it happens more.
25:34
SPEAKER_03: It happens more.
25:39
SPEAKER_03: As long as we've been watching shows, it's happened.
25:43
SPEAKER_03: This guy can't make it.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: He's sick.
25:45
SPEAKER_03: That guy can't make it.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: He's sick.
25:48
SPEAKER_03: It's never happened.
25:50
SPEAKER_03: Well, this guy's too hot, so he has to sit in the bathroom and play.
25:55
SPEAKER_03: But it's not a matter in this case and just taking things at face value.
26:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm too hot.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: You guys take the hot stage.
26:07
I'm going to go in where it's nice and comfy because I'm just a
26:10
prima donna.
26:11
SPEAKER_03: But if,
26:12
if you were to take this at face value and accept the fact that
26:16
Tracy has an
26:18
SPEAKER_03: anxiety disorder that's triggered by heat.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
26:23
SPEAKER_03: He's got some medical issue that needs to be handled differently than
26:29
but he still is willing to try to perform,
26:32
and he does,
26:33
but you have a problem with that.
26:35
SPEAKER_03: I absolutely do.
26:36
SPEAKER_03: Don't fucking book it.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: He should never have booked the show in the first place.
26:42
SPEAKER_03: But,
26:42
SPEAKER_03: but if it,
26:43
SPEAKER_03: it's not a matter of him booking the show,
26:45
SPEAKER_03: it's me on part of a package that happened to swing through Plano,
26:49
SPEAKER_03: Texas,
26:50
SPEAKER_03: which is an outdoor gig,
26:51
SPEAKER_03: which is hot.
26:52
SPEAKER_03: And there's never,
26:53
SPEAKER_03: ever in the history of package tours,
26:56
SPEAKER_03: there's never been a show where it's like,
26:58
SPEAKER_03: well,
26:59
SPEAKER_03: this band isn't playing this show.
27:02
SPEAKER_03: It's rare.
27:03
SPEAKER_03: But it happens.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: It does happen.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: And it should have happened here.
27:07
SPEAKER_03: They should have had enough fly in to play this goddamn gig.
27:11
There's no acceptable way that accepting the namesake of the
27:17
fucking band playing
27:18
SPEAKER_03: from the shitter is a fucking acceptable answer.
27:22
SPEAKER_03: There's no way you're going to convince me of this.
27:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm not trying to convince you.
27:26
SPEAKER_03: I'm just trying to figure out your rationale that...
27:30
The four dudes minus Tracy would be fine to see,
27:34
and it's not ripping off the fans.
27:35
But if Tracy did play the show,
27:38
but he wasn't seen playing the show,
27:41
then that's a ripoff.
27:42
SPEAKER_03: It is.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: It's a ripoff because it's a fucking bad parody of a band.
27:47
SPEAKER_03: All right.
27:47
SPEAKER_03: It's a bad parody of a concert.
27:50
SPEAKER_03: Is it a bad look?
27:51
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
27:52
SPEAKER_03: Is it ridiculous?
27:55
SPEAKER_03: Again, I'm just trying to play the devil's advocate here.
27:58
SPEAKER_03: The devil you know.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: That's a good look.
28:03
SPEAKER_03: No,
28:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying that you're,
28:05
SPEAKER_03: you're,
28:05
SPEAKER_03: you're,
28:07
SPEAKER_03: and I don't see a shower in there,
28:09
SPEAKER_03: but it might be over here.
28:10
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
28:11
SPEAKER_03: Maybe it's not.
28:11
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: Just telling you what I heard.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: All right.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: So, again, too much personal vendetta involved in your viewpoint.
28:24
SPEAKER_03: I don't think so.
28:25
SPEAKER_03: I think if this was anybody else, I'd have the same problem with it.
28:31
SPEAKER_03: If this was – if the Poison show at the stadium tour –
28:37
SPEAKER_03: And,
28:37
SPEAKER_03: you know,
28:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't like anybody in Poison especially,
28:40
SPEAKER_03: but I don't really have any problem with Ricky Rocket.
28:42
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
28:43
If Ricky Rocket set up his drum kit in the bathroom and was
28:49
playing from the
28:49
SPEAKER_03: bathroom,
28:50
SPEAKER_03: I would have as much of a problem with that.
28:53
SPEAKER_03: You can't play from the bathroom.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:56
SPEAKER_03: You can't do it.
28:58
SPEAKER_03: Obviously he did.
28:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:00
SPEAKER_03: And, and it's an embarrassment.
29:01
SPEAKER_03: It's just,
29:02
SPEAKER_03: it's yet again,
29:04
SPEAKER_03: Tracy lowering the fucking expectation and the standard that is LA guns.
29:11
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, but Tracy's done that over the years, over and over again.
29:14
SPEAKER_03: When he brought in Delana,
29:16
SPEAKER_03: when he quit the band,
29:17
SPEAKER_03: when he brought in Chris Von Dahl,
29:19
SPEAKER_03: when he brought in Marty Casey,
29:21
when he started his own version of LA Guns to compete with the
29:24
other version of LA
29:25
SPEAKER_03: Guns.
29:26
SPEAKER_03: Tracy does whatever the fuck Tracy wants to do.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: I will agree with that.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: And in this case, Tracy didn't want to deal with the heat.
29:33
SPEAKER_03: So he just fucking said, fuck you guys.
29:36
SPEAKER_03: You go deal with the heat.
29:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to sit in the shitter and play.
29:41
SPEAKER_03: Well, again, apparently that wasn't his idea.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: Whether it was or it wasn't, he did it.
29:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he did it.
29:50
SPEAKER_03: Because he's a trooper, man.
29:53
SPEAKER_03: No, he's an unprofessional douche.
29:56
SPEAKER_03: That's what he is, an unprofessional douche.
29:59
SPEAKER_03: All right.
30:00
SPEAKER_03: Dude, you don't think he's the namesake of LA Guns?
30:05
SPEAKER_03: He is.
30:06
I'm just trying to say that you're making more of this than
30:08
what it really is.
30:10
SPEAKER_03: Okay,
30:10
SPEAKER_03: so then you'd be okay if Tom Kiefer's band got out there,
30:14
SPEAKER_03: but Tom was in the bathroom,
30:16
SPEAKER_03: you'd be okay with it.
30:17
SPEAKER_03: No, Tom is the focal point of that band.
30:22
SPEAKER_03: Tracy Guns is not the focal point.
30:25
SPEAKER_03: As far as I'm concerned,
30:27
SPEAKER_03: Phil Lewis has proven over the years without Tracy,
30:32
SPEAKER_03: he can still bring the LA Guns music.
30:35
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SPEAKER_03: You'd be okay with that?
31:57
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying I don't know what the circumstances are.
32:01
SPEAKER_03: It's a circumstantial thing.
32:03
If it was just like I'm a prima donna and I don't want to play
32:07
in the heat just
32:08
SPEAKER_03: because I don't want to play in the heat,
32:10
SPEAKER_03: that's one thing.
32:12
SPEAKER_03: I can't believe that you don't think that they should cancel the gig.
32:15
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think they should.
32:16
Well,
32:17
again,
32:18
they might be contractually obligated to play because of this
32:22
package tour.
32:23
SPEAKER_03: They signed on to play this package tour.
32:27
SPEAKER_03: So they have to perform.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: Man.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, fuck that.
32:33
SPEAKER_03: Didn't perform without the guy.
32:36
SPEAKER_03: What would they do if Phil was too hot?
32:39
SPEAKER_03: Would that be?
32:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay, let's do that.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: If, if it was Phil instead of Tracy, is that, is that acceptable?
32:45
SPEAKER_03: Is what acceptable?
32:47
SPEAKER_03: If Phil's in the shit or singing.
32:49
SPEAKER_03: No, because he's kind of the focal point of the band.
32:54
SPEAKER_03: He's every bit, he's no more important than Tracy guns in LA guns.
32:58
SPEAKER_03: Tracy, Tracy is a name.
33:01
SPEAKER_03: He's not the focal point.
33:02
SPEAKER_03: We had Stacy blades playing the Tracy part in LA guns forever.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: And nobody went to those shows.
33:10
SPEAKER_03: That's not true.
33:10
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure that they did as many shows or did audience-wise as L.A.
33:17
SPEAKER_03: Guns, as this current version of L.A.
33:20
SPEAKER_03: Guns.
33:20
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure when L.A.
33:23
SPEAKER_03: Guns, when Tracy and Phil got back together, what, five or six years ago?
33:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:28
SPEAKER_03: There was more of an interest then.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: But now, not so much.
33:33
SPEAKER_03: I just think that that mystique has worn off a while ago.
33:39
all right when they first we got back together and they were
33:42
doing shows it was
33:43
just like oh shit bill and tracy are playing again i'm sure
33:47
that that was more
33:49
interesting but here we are five maybe even six years removed
33:52
now that they've been
33:53
playing together three four albums yeah at least three albums
33:57
yeah not so much
33:58
anymore i think it's just like okay it's bella guns it's you
34:01
know it's bella de
34:03
SPEAKER_03: jane
34:03
SPEAKER_03: Well,
34:04
then why don't they just rent a porta potty and strap an air
34:06
conditioner to it and
34:07
SPEAKER_03: stick it on stage so that the fucking mighty Tracy guns is comfortable.
34:11
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure that they're not playing hot places every single day.
34:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:15
SPEAKER_03: Because why would there be heat in the fucking summer?
34:18
SPEAKER_03: No plane.
34:21
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I have.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: I know it's hot.
34:23
SPEAKER_03: I know it.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: I know it's 110 degrees.
34:25
SPEAKER_03: I get it in the middle.
34:27
SPEAKER_03: It's like playing Las Vegas in the middle of July or August.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: Well, they have Florida gigs coming up.
34:35
SPEAKER_03: It's fucking hot in July in Florida.
34:38
SPEAKER_03: Trust me, I know.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: So what's he going to do then?
34:41
SPEAKER_03: Well, are they playing outdoor venues?
34:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure they are in Florida.
34:45
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if they are or not.
34:47
SPEAKER_03: What's with this Kiefer tour?
34:49
SPEAKER_03: It's probably the same types of venues all across.
34:52
SPEAKER_03: Some of them are indoors.
34:53
SPEAKER_03: Some of them are outdoors.
34:54
SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
34:56
SPEAKER_03: Personally, I don't have an issue with this.
34:58
SPEAKER_03: I think it's kind of, I think it's odd.
35:01
SPEAKER_03: Obviously it's a very odd situation.
35:04
SPEAKER_03: It's a weird situation.
35:07
SPEAKER_03: Do I think that they should have pulled out of the show?
35:11
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think they should have pulled out.
35:14
SPEAKER_03: I think Phil,
35:15
SPEAKER_03: who is the sound of LA guns,
35:18
SPEAKER_03: as far as the sound is concerned,
35:21
SPEAKER_03: as long as he's able to perform,
35:23
SPEAKER_03: I think fans are fine.
35:27
SPEAKER_03: I disagree on the most harshest way possible.
35:34
SPEAKER_03: This is the kind of shit you cancel shows for.
35:38
SPEAKER_03: If it's an illness, you cancel the show.
35:42
SPEAKER_03: If he can't perform as he's supposed to perform...
35:49
SPEAKER_03: He's not supposed to.
35:51
Part of playing a concert in the history of concerts has never
35:56
been playing it from
35:57
SPEAKER_03: the bathroom next to the stage.
35:59
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's a new twist.
36:06
SPEAKER_03: Holy shit.
36:06
SPEAKER_03: The Tidy Bowl tour.
36:08
SPEAKER_03: Stop it.
36:10
SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
36:12
SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
36:13
SPEAKER_03: This is just sad, man.
36:15
SPEAKER_03: It's just sad.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: I look, I never agree.
36:19
SPEAKER_03: And you know, this with the fucking chat room guys, they hate LA guns.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: And I,
36:23
SPEAKER_03: and I never agree with that as much as,
36:26
SPEAKER_03: as,
36:27
SPEAKER_03: and you know,
36:27
SPEAKER_03: this to be true as much as I do not like Tracy.
36:31
And there's a long history there between me and Tracy that I
36:35
don't like him.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: I've never once said music sucks.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: Never have I said that on this show.
36:42
SPEAKER_03: Have I?
36:43
SPEAKER_03: No.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: And never.
36:45
SPEAKER_03: I'm a fan of what he does.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm a fan of LA guns.
36:49
I've seen LA guns like you 20,
36:51
20,
36:51
whatever times seen them a bunch of times.
36:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm a,
36:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm a fan of what they do,
36:58
SPEAKER_03: but in this case,
37:00
SPEAKER_03: I cannot,
37:01
SPEAKER_03: cannot on any level justify this as anything,
37:05
SPEAKER_03: but a lame cash grab.
37:10
SPEAKER_03: It's a lame cash grab.
37:13
SPEAKER_03: It's embarrassing.
37:14
SPEAKER_03: It makes the tour look bad.
37:16
SPEAKER_03: It makes the band look bad.
37:19
SPEAKER_03: It's pathetic.
37:22
SPEAKER_03: It's just a pathetic thing.
37:24
SPEAKER_03: I know you don't agree, but that's okay.
37:29
SPEAKER_03: That's okay.
37:31
SPEAKER_03: I just can't get over the thought that
37:39
SPEAKER_03: acceptable for guys without Tracy playing without Tracy,
37:44
SPEAKER_03: not acceptable for guys playing with Tracy,
37:47
SPEAKER_03: but Tracy isn't seeing.
37:48
SPEAKER_03: And I'm going to show you why I'm going to make a point.
37:51
SPEAKER_03: See that picture right there.
37:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:53
SPEAKER_03: That's a random picture.
37:55
SPEAKER_03: That's four guys playing without Tracy.
37:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:58
SPEAKER_03: That looks like it looks like a show.
38:01
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: And they got that show.
38:03
That's what people are seeing because obviously somebody took
38:06
that picture.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:08
SPEAKER_03: That's a concert.
38:10
Not,
38:12
oh,
38:12
well,
38:12
there's also another guy that's fucking sitting in the bathroom
38:15
playing.
38:15
SPEAKER_03: How about the guy who plays keyboard behind the...
38:21
SPEAKER_03: Like Jeff Nichols or whatever used to before he died.
38:25
SPEAKER_03: Behind the curtain.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't like that either.
38:27
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: Never have.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: I've always thought, put him out there on the stage.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: He's making noise.
38:32
SPEAKER_03: You think we don't hear the goddamn keyboards?
38:34
Yeah,
38:34
I think Derek Sherinian was one of those guys who played behind
38:38
the curtain all the time.
38:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:41
SPEAKER_03: Put him on the fucking stage.
38:43
SPEAKER_03: This is no different than backing tracks at this point,
38:45
but just record what you're going to play and fucking play the
38:48
fucking tracks.
38:50
SPEAKER_03: Sync it to the drums and just have it play.
38:53
making the tour look pathetic by playing from the bathroom and
38:57
then making a
38:58
SPEAKER_03: fucking social media ass of yourself.
39:01
SPEAKER_03: Here I am.
39:02
SPEAKER_03: Instagram people.
39:04
SPEAKER_03: You can watch me here.
39:05
The fans that are there can't watch them there unless they stop
39:09
watching the stage
39:10
SPEAKER_03: to watch their fucking Instagram.
39:13
SPEAKER_03: But the people at home that didn't pay for the show,
39:15
SPEAKER_03: get a bonus that the fans that are there don't get right.
39:19
SPEAKER_03: That's fucking bullshit too.
39:23
SPEAKER_03: It's bullshit all the way around.
39:24
SPEAKER_03: Well,
39:25
SPEAKER_03: this,
39:25
SPEAKER_03: this is what boils down to,
39:28
SPEAKER_03: you know,
39:28
SPEAKER_03: relying on,
39:29
SPEAKER_03: um,
39:30
SPEAKER_03: what do you want to call,
39:32
SPEAKER_03: um,
39:35
SPEAKER_03: current technology.
39:38
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
39:38
SPEAKER_03: And then this goes back to your comment a few minutes ago about,
39:41
SPEAKER_03: well,
39:42
SPEAKER_03: why don't you just stay at home and just zoom it in?
39:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
39:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude, I mean, he might as well have.
39:50
SPEAKER_03: If it's too hot for him, stay home.
39:53
Was he hoping for that off chance that Plano,
39:56
Texas was going to be cool at the end of June?
39:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, who knows?
39:59
SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
40:01
SPEAKER_03: I think you can pretty much deduce that it ain't going to be.
40:04
But I don't think anybody sat there and looked at the tour
40:07
schedule and go,
40:08
SPEAKER_03: well,
40:08
SPEAKER_03: this place is going to be hot,
40:09
SPEAKER_03: but this place not so much.
40:11
SPEAKER_03: This one is hot.
40:12
SPEAKER_03: I can't play this show.
40:13
SPEAKER_03: All right.
40:14
SPEAKER_03: Stop, stop, stop.
40:16
SPEAKER_03: You're wrong.
40:16
SPEAKER_03: And I'm going to tell you why you're wrong.
40:18
SPEAKER_03: All right.
40:18
SPEAKER_03: Tell me why.
40:19
SPEAKER_03: Because this guy says he's had this anxiety disorder for his whole life.
40:22
So,
40:23
you know,
40:24
if you had a disorder and it was triggered by something like
40:30
weather,
40:31
SPEAKER_03: You would be locked in on what is that going to be?
40:35
SPEAKER_03: Well, am I going to be able to do that?
40:38
SPEAKER_03: Well, again, did he perform the show?
40:40
SPEAKER_03: Yes or no?
40:42
SPEAKER_03: I say no.
40:44
SPEAKER_03: You don't think so?
40:45
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't.
40:46
SPEAKER_03: He sat in the bathroom.
40:47
SPEAKER_03: So he did not play the guitar or perform during the show.
40:51
SPEAKER_03: He played the guitar.
40:52
SPEAKER_03: He did not perform.
40:53
SPEAKER_03: No, he played the guitar.
40:56
SPEAKER_03: Playing guitar is not a performance.
40:57
SPEAKER_03: No.
40:58
SPEAKER_03: No, not at a concert standing still.
41:01
SPEAKER_03: Even Mick Mars moves.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: So, so visually you have the problem with it.
41:09
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
41:09
SPEAKER_03: He didn't perform a concert.
41:12
SPEAKER_03: He did the equivalent of working in the studio.
41:14
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
41:17
SPEAKER_03: So, so a studio performance is not a performance.
41:21
SPEAKER_03: It's not a concert.
41:23
SPEAKER_03: I didn't say that performance.
41:24
SPEAKER_03: I didn't say concert.
41:25
SPEAKER_03: I said performance.
41:26
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
41:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
41:28
SPEAKER_03: It's a performance, I guess.
41:29
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
41:31
SPEAKER_03: It ain't, it ain't what these fine folks in Plano paid for though.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: They paid for a concert.
41:35
SPEAKER_03: Right.
41:37
SPEAKER_03: So funny.
41:39
SPEAKER_03: This would annoy me no matter who the goddamn band is.
41:43
SPEAKER_03: I know it's easy because it's Tracy who I don't like,
41:46
SPEAKER_03: and I know you think that that is 1,000% fueling my fire on this.
41:50
SPEAKER_03: I would be the same way with anybody.
41:52
SPEAKER_03: I think it fuels some of your bias, I do.
41:56
SPEAKER_03: It may, but I don't care who the band was.
41:59
SPEAKER_03: I would be mad.
42:01
SPEAKER_03: Let's talk about Paul D'Anno.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
42:05
act the wheelchair stuff exactly is that a problem for you yes
42:10
absolutely is
42:12
absolutely when axl rose broke his foot and they put him out
42:15
there on the fucking
42:16
stool that's a problem for me okay when dave grohl broke his
42:20
foot cancel the shows
42:23
SPEAKER_03: you can't do the job you're not doing the job
42:30
SPEAKER_03: This is a job and the job is getting out there no matter what the fucking
42:33
SPEAKER_03: temperature is and playing the show.
42:36
SPEAKER_03: We watched Def Leppard last week playing a goddamn hurricane.
42:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were playing in the rain.
42:42
SPEAKER_03: You know, what do you think was more dangerous?
42:44
SPEAKER_03: The heat or the fucking lightning?
42:46
SPEAKER_03: Probably the lightning.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: And they showed up and manned up.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: They did their shit.
42:52
SPEAKER_03: This guy sits in the bathroom and hides.
42:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:56
SPEAKER_03: Fucking pussy.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:58
SPEAKER_03: And another, like you've never seen a stage with big fans on a stage.
43:02
You couldn't put a big fan right there in front of Tracy to try
43:04
and keep them cooled down.
43:06
SPEAKER_03: Who was it?
43:07
SPEAKER_03: I think it was kiss that can't remember.
43:12
SPEAKER_03: It was years ago.
43:13
SPEAKER_03: Somebody correct me if I'm wrong,
43:15
but I think kiss like paid some absorbent amount of money to
43:21
have some kind of like
43:22
SPEAKER_03: big,
43:23
SPEAKER_03: uh,
43:24
air conditioning units to play us to play a show or something
43:29
like that because it
43:31
was really really hot sure and they they they had these big air
43:36
conditioning units
43:38
blowing on the stage because you know the fans just weren't
43:40
going to do it for them
43:41
they had to have something a little more you know uh something
43:46
to really cool the
43:47
SPEAKER_03: stage off and they brought in big ac units or some shit
43:51
SPEAKER_03: All right, here's another one.
43:55
SPEAKER_03: You got me going crazy on this.
43:58
SPEAKER_03: Guns N' Roses.
43:59
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: If Slash said it was too hot, that's acceptable?
44:07
SPEAKER_03: Now, Guns N' Roses is Axl Rose.
44:10
SPEAKER_03: He's the main guy.
44:11
He's the main guy that survived the band even when Slash was
44:16
off being Slash's steak pit.
44:19
SPEAKER_03: So if Slash was in the shitter...
44:22
SPEAKER_03: You'd be okay with that.
44:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, again, it's one of those subjective things.
44:27
Is there something wrong with him or is he just in the shitter
44:31
just because he
44:31
SPEAKER_03: wants to be in the shitter?
44:32
SPEAKER_03: Because he has heat anxiety.
44:34
SPEAKER_03: Same as Tracy.
44:35
SPEAKER_03: Same exact thing.
44:36
SPEAKER_03: You'd be okay with slack.
44:38
SPEAKER_03: What I'm trying to tell you from a fan perspective.
44:42
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
44:42
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
44:43
SPEAKER_03: not,
44:43
SPEAKER_03: not an insider perspective,
44:45
SPEAKER_03: not somebody who's jaded to the industry like you and myself,
44:50
SPEAKER_03: but from a fan perspective,
44:53
SPEAKER_03: There are a lot of people out there who would go, man, what a trooper.
44:58
Even though he was having these issues,
45:01
he still showed up and played the show.
45:03
SPEAKER_03: A lot of people would think that.
45:06
SPEAKER_03: And I'm not saying you would accept that.
45:08
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying there are a lot of fans out there that just,
45:11
it's like all the people who went to see Genesis with Phil
45:14
Collins all crumpled up
45:16
SPEAKER_03: in a chair.
45:17
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
45:17
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to stop you right there.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: What did you and I say about that?
45:21
We didn't like it because visually it was unpleasant to see
45:25
Phil because we felt sorry for him.
45:28
SPEAKER_03: How many times did you and I both say, just stop this?
45:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it was bad.
45:34
Because it was very uncomfortable to see Phil all just crumpled
45:41
up in a chair,
45:42
SPEAKER_03: looking all pathetic like Uncle June.
45:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:47
SPEAKER_03: Did he sound okay?
45:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he sounded okay, but he looked pathetic.
45:52
SPEAKER_03: And sitting in the bathroom doesn't look pathetic?
45:56
SPEAKER_03: You didn't see him sitting in the bathroom, did you?
45:59
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm saying Tracy.
46:01
SPEAKER_03: No,
46:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying,
46:03
SPEAKER_03: again,
46:03
SPEAKER_03: you didn't see Tracy sitting in the bathroom crumpled up in a chair,
46:07
SPEAKER_03: did you?
46:08
No,
46:08
but you saw him in the bathroom sitting on the shitter if you
46:11
had Instagram.
46:14
SPEAKER_03: Do you have any of that video?
46:16
SPEAKER_03: Of course, I certainly do.
46:17
SPEAKER_03: Let's see it.
46:19
SPEAKER_03: Let's pull that right up here.
46:20
SPEAKER_03: Hold, please.
46:22
SPEAKER_03: Where is that video?
46:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh, can't do that.
46:31
SPEAKER_03: Share.
46:32
SPEAKER_03: Share screen.
46:33
SPEAKER_03: Upper tab.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: Watch.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
46:37
SPEAKER_03: Here's the mighty shitter guns.
46:46
SPEAKER_01: You want something fast?
46:49
SPEAKER_01: You want something heavy?
46:52
SPEAKER_01: Alrighty then.
46:54
Let's have the mother...
46:55
Do you want something cooled down from the bathroom?
46:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah!
47:01
SPEAKER_01: Fucking speed!
47:03
SPEAKER_01: Tracy Gump!
47:41
really did he played really well again what the only thing
47:51
that's missing here as
47:53
far as the concert is concerned is visual uh confirmation or
48:01
performance that's it
48:02
SPEAKER_03: yeah but if if this was one of the off guys if this was ace von johnson
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48:30
SPEAKER_03: Fine.
48:31
SPEAKER_03: But it's not.
48:32
SPEAKER_03: It's Tracy Guns from L.A.
48:34
SPEAKER_03: Guns.
48:35
So,
48:36
again,
48:36
should he have just not performed at all and just said,
48:40
yeah,
48:40
I'm sick?
48:41
SPEAKER_03: I think that's what they,
48:42
SPEAKER_03: I think that,
48:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
48:44
SPEAKER_03: if I was making the decisions,
48:47
SPEAKER_03: I would cancel the gig for L.A.
48:49
SPEAKER_03: Guns as a whole.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: All right.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: So they should breach their contractual duty and bow out.
48:57
SPEAKER_03: I think,
48:58
SPEAKER_03: and I don't know this to be true,
48:59
SPEAKER_03: I guess we'd have to see the contract to know,
49:02
SPEAKER_03: but if there's a legitimate fucking health issue,
49:06
SPEAKER_03: you can cancel a gig.
49:07
SPEAKER_03: All right.
49:08
Did Phil deliver the music or the songs the way people wanted
49:13
to hear them?
49:14
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
49:15
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
49:16
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
49:17
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
49:17
people might've wanted to see Phil fucking wrap his pirate hand
49:21
around Tracy's
49:22
SPEAKER_03: shoulder at some point.
49:26
SPEAKER_03: Or see him interact with Tracy guns on stage.
49:29
SPEAKER_03: Right.
49:29
SPEAKER_03: Cause that's what LA guns has always been.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: Right.
49:32
SPEAKER_03: But so, but they did get LA guns music.
49:34
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
49:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
49:36
SPEAKER_03: So then bring a tribute band.
49:37
SPEAKER_03: What difference does it make?
49:39
If you can let this guy play and not be seen,
49:41
then why do you even need them?
49:43
SPEAKER_03: Well,
49:43
SPEAKER_03: why not get Tom Kiefer's guy to fucking get out there and play,
49:47
SPEAKER_03: but you act like this is the whole tour.
49:49
SPEAKER_03: I don't care if it's one show or another.
49:52
SPEAKER_03: There's a thousand people that paid money and got fucked.
49:54
SPEAKER_03: They're very unforgiving.
49:56
SPEAKER_03: I am.
49:57
SPEAKER_03: All right.
49:58
SPEAKER_03: Fair enough.
49:58
SPEAKER_03: I absolutely am.
49:59
SPEAKER_03: Just like with the fucking Genesis thing that you just brought up.
50:04
SPEAKER_03: What did I say the minute that they announced the Cleveland show?
50:06
SPEAKER_03: You asked me on the show if I would go, and I said, absolutely not.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: That's not Genesis.
50:13
SPEAKER_03: That guy sitting in a fucking office chair is not Genesis.
50:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:19
SPEAKER_03: So I'm not going to accept it from anybody.
50:21
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to accept.
50:22
These guys are getting paid good money to fucking play these
50:25
goddamn shows.
50:26
SPEAKER_03: So play it on the stage where you belong.
50:31
SPEAKER_03: Nobody wants to see a goddamn sink in the fucking video.
50:38
SPEAKER_03: Come on, man.
50:39
SPEAKER_03: All right.
50:40
SPEAKER_03: Well, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.
50:43
SPEAKER_03: We are because there's no way I would accept this.
50:47
SPEAKER_03: No way.
50:50
SPEAKER_03: This is horrendous.
50:52
It's so funny.
50:53
SPEAKER_03: It's embarrassing.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: Screw Tracy guns.
50:58
SPEAKER_03: He's a fucking cunt anyway.
50:59
SPEAKER_03: Ah, so funny.
51:00
SPEAKER_03: All right.
51:02
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, that's Tracy guns.
51:04
SPEAKER_03: All right.
51:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh, uh, why PC PC sent us a, an email.
51:13
SPEAKER_03: He was wondering if the chat was down or something.
51:16
SPEAKER_03: It looks fine to me.
51:17
SPEAKER_03: That's up.
51:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
51:18
SPEAKER_03: It looks,
51:19
SPEAKER_03: Working for everybody.
51:21
SPEAKER_03: I see everybody in there.
51:23
SPEAKER_03: Reboot your computer, PC.
51:25
SPEAKER_03: Apparently so.
51:27
SPEAKER_03: All right.
51:28
SPEAKER_03: Well, that concludes the paid version of the CMS, the Wednesday version.
51:34
SPEAKER_03: You hear Chris's rage and he feels ripped off and cheated.
51:41
SPEAKER_03: I do.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't.
51:43
SPEAKER_03: He's all cheated and shit.
51:45
SPEAKER_03: I feel for my friends in Plano.
51:48
SPEAKER_03: I feel for them.
51:50
SPEAKER_03: You don't have any friends in Plano.
51:52
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't.
51:53
SPEAKER_03: Why would I?
51:54
SPEAKER_03: It's too fucking hot there.
51:55
See,
51:56
unlike Tracy Guns,
51:57
I won't fucking say I'm going to come there and sit in the
51:59
bathroom.
52:00
SPEAKER_03: Right.
52:01
SPEAKER_03: I won't sell people that I'm going to come and show up and perform.
52:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm just going to stay home.
52:06
SPEAKER_03: He did perform.
52:07
SPEAKER_03: He just didn't do it in front of people.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: No, he fucking did a studio session.
52:12
SPEAKER_03: Totally different.
52:13
SPEAKER_03: He still performed.
52:15
SPEAKER_03: No, he didn't.
52:16
SPEAKER_03: He just played.
52:18
SPEAKER_03: There's a difference.
52:20
If I pick up my phone and I play fucking whatever game is on my
52:25
phone,
52:25
that's not a performance.
52:26
SPEAKER_03: It's me playing.
52:28
SPEAKER_03: Right.
52:29
SPEAKER_03: He's playing.
52:30
SPEAKER_03: He's not performing.
52:32
SPEAKER_03: Right.
52:32
SPEAKER_03: So he played the gig.
52:34
SPEAKER_03: He didn't perform.
52:35
SPEAKER_03: He played, though.
52:37
If you ask me how many people performed at that show from LA
52:40
Guns,
52:41
I say four.
52:42
Four.
52:46
SPEAKER_03: Four.
52:49
SPEAKER_03: no chance i'm i'm not giving on this one not doing it not doing it no
52:58
SPEAKER_03: All right.
52:59
SPEAKER_03: Well, let's take a break.
53:01
SPEAKER_03: What should we play?
53:02
SPEAKER_03: Do you got something in mind?
53:04
SPEAKER_03: Let's go with, let me see what I got here.
53:07
SPEAKER_03: I know what I want to hear.
53:09
SPEAKER_03: I have been hooked this week, and this is an album that I bought this.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: You probably bought this too.
53:14
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure you have it in that monster collection behind you.
53:17
SPEAKER_03: And for some reason,
53:18
SPEAKER_03: I never listened to it for 30 fucking years,
53:20
SPEAKER_03: but now I can't stop listening to it.
53:23
SPEAKER_03: Did you ever listen to this album, Fire and Gasoline by Steve Jones?
53:29
no it's fucking awesome it's um it's like he did like a bunch
53:36
of stuff out of the
53:37
sex pistols isn't he from the sex pistols yeah yeah but he did
53:41
like one rock album
53:42
that wasn't any good called no mercy okay then he did this fire
53:46
and gasoline which
53:46
SPEAKER_03: is his metal album okay it kicks ass all right
53:51
So there's a song on it with Axl Rose singing called I Did You
53:54
Know Wrong.
53:55
SPEAKER_03: And I can't believe in 1989,
53:56
neither one of us knew that there was an Axl Rose vocaled song
54:01
from Steve Jones.
54:02
SPEAKER_03: Well,
54:02
SPEAKER_03: I know that he played,
54:03
SPEAKER_03: you know,
54:03
SPEAKER_03: Axl sang with Hanoi Rocks guy,
54:08
SPEAKER_03: and he also played with Alice Cooper.
54:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, Steve Jones, dude, I'm going to recommend this to you, like,
54:14
tomorrow or monday or whatever when you're going to work i got
54:18
it pulled up here no
54:19
no not not just tonight i'm saying because you know who else
54:22
plays on this a lot
54:23
there's like three or four songs is your guy ian asbury is that
54:27
right he sings like
54:28
three or four of the tunes all right cool it's a good record i
54:32
don't know how i let
54:33
this one slide through and never really listen to it because i
54:37
owned it i i own a
54:38
SPEAKER_03: physical of it but just never listened to it but
54:41
okay i've been listening to it for about a month it is fucking
54:44
really good nice all
54:46
right well i will give it a listen i have it pulled up here i
54:50
see it's good songs
54:51
on it so yeah good stuff all right well here is steve jones
54:57
with i did you know
54:58
SPEAKER_03: wrong exclusively here
55:37
SPEAKER_03: Hey, this is Rachel Bohm from Skid Row, and you are watching CMS-TV.
55:47
SPEAKER_03: Hail and kill, caller.
55:57
SPEAKER_03: You're on the air.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: It's vivo.com slash official Ryan Harmon.
56:01
SPEAKER_01: Get it right, please.
56:02
SPEAKER_03: What is it?
56:02
SPEAKER_03: Facial Ryan Harmon?
56:03
SPEAKER_03: Official.
56:04
SPEAKER_03: Do you want to get facial?
56:06
SPEAKER_03: Official.
56:08
SPEAKER_03: Oh, official.
56:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
56:10
SPEAKER_03: I had to use that since somebody else had taken Ryan Harmon.
56:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: See, this is what you're called, not sticking to the point.
56:17
SPEAKER_03: It is sticking to the point.
56:20
SPEAKER_03: No, you're rambling.
56:22
SPEAKER_03: No.
56:23
SPEAKER_03: No one cares that somebody else took the name.
56:26
SPEAKER_03: I'm explaining.
56:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because you're not sticking to the point.
56:30
SPEAKER_03: We don't care.
56:30
SPEAKER_01: So?
56:33
SPEAKER_03: So?
56:33
SPEAKER_03: Click.
56:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay, fine.
56:36
SPEAKER_01: Click.
56:39
SPEAKER_03: God.
56:46
SPEAKER_03: That kid, I tell you.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean, seriously, he can't be that dense.
56:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, can he?
56:54
SPEAKER_03: Come on, really?
56:55
SPEAKER_03: He's out to prove you wrong, my friend.
56:57
SPEAKER_03: He's out to prove you wrong.
56:58
SPEAKER_03: Let's listen to this.
57:00
SPEAKER_03: All right.
57:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, no, here it comes again.
57:12
Heaven and hell with us tonight on Rockland,
57:14
the entire band to take your calls.
57:16
SPEAKER_03: And first up from Lamar, Arkansas, we welcome Ryan.
57:19
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Ryan.
57:19
SPEAKER_03: How's it going?
57:21
SPEAKER_03: Hi, guys.
57:22
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Ryan.
57:22
SPEAKER_00: How are you doing?
57:23
SPEAKER_03: Hello.
57:25
My question to you all is when you guys were going into the
57:28
studio to make your new
57:29
SPEAKER_03: CD,
57:31
did you feel that you need to bring something new to the table
57:33
sound-wise,
57:34
or did you feel like you need to go back to the old sound or a
57:37
little bit of both?
57:38
SPEAKER_03: Could you explain that, please?
57:41
SPEAKER_00: Who would like to jump into that one?
57:42
SPEAKER_00: Me?
57:45
You know,
57:45
we didn't really have any preconceived ideas about this at all,
57:48
Ryan.
57:49
SPEAKER_00: I think we've always known what we are and what we were going to be.
57:52
We all really think the same way when it comes to writing and
57:55
what we want it to sound like.
57:57
SPEAKER_00: So it was just a natural process.
57:59
What we had to offer was what you hear on this album,
58:02
and really not a lot more.
58:03
SPEAKER_00: We weren't trying to capture anything from the past or do anything new.
58:07
SPEAKER_00: Whatever you hear, it just came out that way.
58:09
SPEAKER_00: We had used a bit newer technology with Pro Tools.
58:13
SPEAKER_00: We hadn't done a lot of digital recording.
58:15
SPEAKER_00: In fact, this was the first digital recording that we've done.
58:18
SPEAKER_00: And perhaps that has a little bit to do with it,
58:20
SPEAKER_00: but it was just what we felt we could create,
58:23
SPEAKER_00: and that's what you hear.
58:24
SPEAKER_03: To me, it reflects who you are and what you're about.
58:26
SPEAKER_03: It is.
58:27
SPEAKER_03: I think everyone makes a statement.
58:29
SPEAKER_03: Great observation there.
58:31
SPEAKER_03: And I made kind of a validation.
58:33
SPEAKER_03: He always adds so much to the conversation.
58:36
SPEAKER_03: You ever notice that?
58:37
SPEAKER_03: I will say RH sounded more intelligent than Bob Colbert.
58:41
SPEAKER_03: I know.
58:41
SPEAKER_03: It's just a reflection of who you are.
58:44
SPEAKER_03: Really?
58:44
Since we're the guys writing the music and performing,
58:47
it's a reflection of who we are?
58:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's usually how it works.
58:50
It's usually not a reflection of who they are when somebody
58:54
writes a song there,
58:55
Bob.
58:56
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for your insight.
58:58
SPEAKER_03: Don't get me wrong.
58:59
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate the fact that Bob is doing us almost 30 years, but come on.
59:03
SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
59:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm just going to say it.
59:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't appreciate it.
59:06
SPEAKER_03: It's where you live.
59:08
SPEAKER_03: It's that simple.
59:10
SPEAKER_03: If you live in the right place and you stay with it long enough,
59:12
SPEAKER_03: you'll get attention because that guy is a horrific interviewer.
59:17
We've gone up and down the road with Eddie Trunk as far as
59:21
should Eddie be there
59:22
SPEAKER_03: and should Eddie not be there.
59:23
SPEAKER_03: And I will say that Eddie...
59:26
SPEAKER_03: While it may not be the kind of style that you and I do,
59:30
SPEAKER_03: the same brand of show that we do,
59:32
SPEAKER_03: for what he does,
59:33
SPEAKER_03: he's pretty good at it.
59:35
SPEAKER_03: Bob Coburn stinks.
59:38
SPEAKER_03: Has for 30 years.
59:39
SPEAKER_03: I've been listening to his shit for 30 years, and it's always been shit.
59:43
SPEAKER_03: It's been shit from day one.
59:45
SPEAKER_03: Dude, I remember the first time I listened to this guy.
59:49
See,
59:49
I actually remember listening to Rockline all the way back the
59:53
first time.
59:54
SPEAKER_03: Remember when they used to play like most of the album, too?
59:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the show used to be like three hours, I think.
1:00:00
Yeah,
1:00:00
and they would play like eight of ten songs or whatever from
1:00:03
the album.
1:00:04
And the first one I ever listened to,
1:00:06
this is how I remember,
1:00:09
it was Journeys Raised on Radio.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_03: And I stayed up late at night to listen to this dumb show.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_03: And he was a hack then, too.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_03: So, Steve, is it tough to sing those songs with that high voice?
1:00:22
SPEAKER_03: No, stupid.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_03: It's simple.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_03: That's why everybody does it.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_03: It's fucking Larry King of Metal.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_03: Look at jalapeno Pope.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_03: Bob rules and we're just jealous.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_03: I'm not jealous.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_03: I'd like to have a 30-year run.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_03: But aside from a 30-year run,
1:00:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm glad I don't have one interview that's as hack and shit as that.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_03: Just turn on DVE and leave us alone there, jalapeno.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_03: Just turn on the police band radio and listen for your name, stupid.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_03: Shut up, you convict.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think you guys knocked it out of the park.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_00: Do you, Bob?
1:01:01
SPEAKER_03: Really?
1:01:02
SPEAKER_03: Corey, you're on Rockline with Heaven and Hell.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_03: That was his shining moment.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_03: He's right up there with Tammy now.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_03: He's better than Tammy.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_03: I'll give RH credit, as much as I like to smash him in his teeth.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, he actually had a pretty good question there.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_03: Not bad.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_03: He was right, direct, precise, and to the point.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_03: Too bad he can't do that when he calls this show.
1:01:24
How funny is it that two people that are associated with the
1:01:27
classic metal show got through
1:01:30
SPEAKER_03: It's a rock line.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_03: It's great.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_03: RH is the new.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Don.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_03: RH is the new Tammy.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_03: Do you have that handy?
1:01:42
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_03: Let me pull it up here real quick.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: I just want to hear that stupid.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Don.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Tammy.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Tammy.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_03: Just disgusted that one of his stalkers got through.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: Hail and kill, Collar.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_03: You're on the air.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: You know how Bob gets the joke?
1:01:58
SPEAKER_03: Oh, Jesus.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_01: Hi, Don.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_01: This is Tammy.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_01: I love you, Don.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_03: I love all that that you do,
1:02:08
SPEAKER_03: and I feel your pain in your music,
1:02:11
SPEAKER_03: and I know you're going through a lot of changes now,
1:02:14
SPEAKER_03: as all are.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_03: I just wish you would feel me on this.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_03: You know, I'd buy all your t-shirts, you know, the Dawkins t-shirts.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_03: I was just wondering in the song Alone Again,
1:02:25
SPEAKER_03: were you referring to anyone in particular in that song?
1:02:36
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you've got to love that.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_03: Tammy.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_03: I am loving this.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Rev.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_03: Me too.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Don.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_01: I love you, Don.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, I love you.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_01: And I wish you'd call me back.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_01: No, I can't.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_01: Love you, bye.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_03: Love you, bye.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_03: Holy shit.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_03: I forgot how funny that was.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_03: It's hysterical.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_03: Tammy.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_03: Tammy.
1:03:33
Remember when we had Don on the show and I played that audio
1:03:37
for him and he was
1:03:38
SPEAKER_03: just like,
1:03:39
SPEAKER_03: all right,
1:03:39
SPEAKER_03: enough.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_03: Turn it off.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: He was absolutely disgusted.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_03: He was just so put out with that.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_03: He was like, Jesus, why are my friends with you two dicks?
1:03:49
SPEAKER_03: It's just like, all right, enough.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_03: I get it.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_03: I get it.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_03: You're the girls parked out in front of my gated community.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: I got it.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_03: Oof.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, my God.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_03: Imagine running into a Tammy in every city.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_03: And you know that's what it is.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's basically what he said.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_03: He said,
1:04:08
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:04:08
that's the only thing he doesn't like about his job is the fact
1:04:13
that there is like
1:04:14
SPEAKER_03: a Tammy or two in every city.
1:04:17
Well,
1:04:17
you know,
1:04:18
thinking about it now,
1:04:19
I mean,
1:04:20
RH was on Rockline and so was Tammy.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_03: I wonder if it's because they use the same phone.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_03: They both live in the trailer park, so...
1:04:29
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, it could very well be.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_03: Maybe Tammy is RH's toothless mom.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_03: Could be.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_03: You can just hear it in her voice.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_03: She's like a smoker, and I bet you she's got some missing teeth.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_03: Oh, probably.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_03: She's the mom in Gilbert Grape.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_03: What's eating Gilbert Grape?
1:04:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's the mom.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, no kidding.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_03: You could just hear that in her voice.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_03: Oof.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_03: Too funny.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Don.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh, boy.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm seeing if I have any more Tammy clips.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I just wish you had the original phone call somewhere.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_03: Do you have that somewhere?
1:05:05
SPEAKER_03: No, I do that.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_03: Play the original phone call.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_03: That's good stuff.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_03: Let me find it.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_03: I'm looking through the clips here.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_03: I just can't remember what I titled it.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_03: I know it's like Tammy calls or something like that.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_02: Hey, you, why are you watching this with commercials?
1:05:24
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1:05:28
SPEAKER_02: Become of the IP today on Locals, Substack, or Rumble Premium.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_02: Stop waiting.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_03: I wish that some more people would accidentally call us.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_03: We haven't had an accidental phone call in a while.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's funny.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_03: It is funny.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_03: Speaking of that, have you called through the message line lately?
1:05:51
SPEAKER_03: What is the message line?
1:05:52
SPEAKER_03: You know,
1:05:53
SPEAKER_03: not our message line,
1:05:54
SPEAKER_03: the other message line,
1:05:55
SPEAKER_03: the one where,
1:05:56
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:05:57
SPEAKER_03: you know what I'm talking about.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_03: You know, the one that belongs to a certain band, a hotline.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_03: Oh, oh, I haven't logged in in a long time.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_03: I could, though.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_03: Let's see what this.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_03: I got something here.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_03: Hail and kill caller.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_03: You're on the air.
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SPEAKER_03: Sorry, we lost connection there.
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SPEAKER_03: I tried calling you in a minute.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, that was that message to Don.
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SPEAKER_03: The guy who called in and wanted to leave a message for Don.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, let's hear it.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_03: Let's hear that one.
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SPEAKER_03: Hail and kill, caller.
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SPEAKER_03: You're on the air.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, we lost connection there.
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SPEAKER_00: I tried calling you in a minute ago.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, what can we do for you?
1:06:37
SPEAKER_00: Well,
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SPEAKER_00: before we get off,
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: I know it's good about how this part is my favorite song or everything,
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SPEAKER_00: but
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to cut it short, okay, because I know your guys are busy.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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But basically,
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I just want to send a little message because Dawkins is my
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favorite band.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: If you guys ever see Don again,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not going all tammy psycho or everything because I heard that chick.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's weird.
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SPEAKER_00: But basically, it's a thank you message to Don.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Isn't he coming to a town near you?
1:07:11
SPEAKER_00: Now, I've already seen the Nashville concert just to see him.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been trying to pass this along to him.
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SPEAKER_00: This is just a big thank you to him for two songs.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Breaking the Chains,
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SPEAKER_00: because it got me over in my first love,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: being free and everything.
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SPEAKER_00: It got me over that in Heaven Sent,
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SPEAKER_00: because my second love,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like she wasn't the one.
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SPEAKER_00: So wait a minute, dude.
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SPEAKER_00: Hold on, dude.
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So you want me to go up to a 55-year-old man and thank him for
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helping another man
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SPEAKER_03: get over his loves?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, nothing.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you fucking high?
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_03: I forgot how funny that is.
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SPEAKER_03: Are you fucking high?
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SPEAKER_03: Are you fucking high?
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I'm just saying that really from the heart,
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you know,
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that's really what got me into Dokken.
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SPEAKER_00: Really?
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I was having a hard time,
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and now I found Dokken,
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and that's what got me into hair metal.
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Do you really think Dokken was a real hair metal band,
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or did they just have that image?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's what people put them as.
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Like,
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when I go to work,
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and I say,
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listen,
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Dokken,
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people go,
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you know,
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they're hair metal.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't care.
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SPEAKER_02: I love them.
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SPEAKER_03: That's okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Dude, you're killing me.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_03: I like you guys, too.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_03: You guys are awesome.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_03: Thanks, man.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_03: Hell and kill.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_03: Hell and kill.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_03: And fuck you, pal.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: See you.
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SPEAKER_03: Jesus.
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SPEAKER_03: I forgot how funny that was.
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Could you call Don and thank him for getting me through my
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first lost loves?
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SPEAKER_03: Ugh.
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SPEAKER_03: Ugh.
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SPEAKER_03: That is too funny.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm from a dude, no less.
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SPEAKER_03: That's worse than Tammy.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, Jesus.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_03: This message is for Don Dockin.
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SPEAKER_03: This is Tammy.
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SPEAKER_03: My number is... I've left many messages.
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SPEAKER_03: I really wish you would call me because I think...
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Did I miss you at the Queensryche show in SF at the Fillmore in
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February?
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SPEAKER_03: I believe you might have been doing a speedy signing after the show,
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SPEAKER_03: and I had to leave you before the show was over,
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SPEAKER_03: and I really wanted to meet you.
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SPEAKER_03: If you called me on the phone,
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SPEAKER_03: that would really be cool because that would make up for,
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SPEAKER_03: like,
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SPEAKER_03: not meeting you that night.
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And I want you to know that I'm probably one of the very few
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people that really
1:09:52
SPEAKER_03: give a damn about your music.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, such as your 1990 CD, Crash and Burn.
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SPEAKER_03: I love that song.
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And the 95 dysfunctional CD that,
1:10:06
you know,
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that most people don't even know.
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SPEAKER_03: aren't even familiar with.
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SPEAKER_03: I love all that that you do,
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SPEAKER_03: and I feel your pain in your music,
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SPEAKER_03: and I know you're going through a lot of changes now,
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SPEAKER_03: as we all are,
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SPEAKER_03: and I love you,
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SPEAKER_03: Dawn,
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SPEAKER_03: and I just wish you would feel me on this,
1:10:24
SPEAKER_03: because I really,
1:10:26
SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: I buy all your t-shirts,
1:10:29
SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: the Dockin t-shirts,
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SPEAKER_03: and,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: I buy your CDs,
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SPEAKER_03: and I wish you'd care enough to maybe even
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SPEAKER_03: Call me back because,
1:10:39
SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: I love you and your music,
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SPEAKER_03: and I'm a dedicated fan,
1:10:44
SPEAKER_03: and I just want you to know that.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_03: So I know this sounds like a bunch of drama to you.
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SPEAKER_03: This is crazy, but maybe something will sink in.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_01: Love you.
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SPEAKER_01: Bye.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_01: Shit.
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SPEAKER_03: Dude, let's call her.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_03: It's been a year.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_03: Wow, that is crazy.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_03: Why don't you just call her and say,
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SPEAKER_03: hey,
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SPEAKER_03: it's WDKN,
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SPEAKER_03: and Tammy,
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SPEAKER_03: we're going to put you on the phone with Don Dockin.
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SPEAKER_03: Are you ready?
1:11:16
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't want to do that.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_03: We heard your call, and we want to help.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
1:11:22
SPEAKER_03: That's why Ben... Live via satellite, it's Rockline.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_00: Funny show.
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SPEAKER_00: We had nothing else to do.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_00: Let's go do it.
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So we went to the show and we heard all these other,
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I never got into drugs in the 80s.
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SPEAKER_03: Strikes again and then your calls are coming next on Rockline.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing great, brother.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_03: How you doing?
1:11:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing great.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_03: I thought I could call through there and find her call.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't have that.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_03: Isolated.
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SPEAKER_03: Too funny.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_03: Oh, my God.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_03: I just forgot how funny that stuff was.
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SPEAKER_03: Good shit.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
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