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Best of Chuck & Buck 2-3 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's also a cracking ticket Tuesday. Sorry I didn't mention
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  Speaker 1: that every hour we'll be giving away tickets to an
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  Speaker 1: upcoming cracking game, and they will be in action tonight
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  Speaker 1: to take on the cracking and assume me the Ducks
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  Speaker 1: the Anaheim Mighty Ducks in Anaheim at seven o'clock. But
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  Speaker 1: we also had a major trade, one that we've been
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  Speaker 1: waiting on all off season, and so even though it's
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl week, it certainly cracks the agenda of topics
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  Speaker 1: of discussion here today, as the Mariners did acquire Brendan
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  Speaker 1: Donovan finally from the Saint Louis Cardinals yesterday, and they
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  Speaker 1: gave up a significant package in order to get him,
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  Speaker 1: giving away Ben Williamson and then two good prospects, maybe
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  Speaker 1: not our best, thank goodness, but two really good prospects,
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  Speaker 1: Jerangelo Saint Gee also Typeete, who is a guy that
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  Speaker 1: I kind of was looking forward to seeing his progress
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  Speaker 1: through the minor league system. And then also the Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Rays even had to throw in a piece plus
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  Speaker 1: a draft pick compensation. So Brendan Donovan ended up going
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  Speaker 1: for a pretty sizable package, but Bucky not nearly the
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  Speaker 1: package that Cardinal fans and Cardinal podcasters were suggesting that
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  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan is worth So that makes Mariner fans, I think,
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  Speaker 1: feel a lot better considering some of the names that
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  Speaker 1: were being thrown out there. I mean, these fools were
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  Speaker 1: like Kyle Rowley and Julio Rodriguez. What else are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna give us?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: And it ends up being Saint Gee and Pete and
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  Speaker 1: Ben Williamson and a draft pick in exchange for Brendan Donovan.
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  Speaker 3: What'd you think of the deal? I liked it.
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  Speaker 4: But then again, to me, it's I don't I have
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  Speaker 4: a hard time putting a bunch of high praise or
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  Speaker 4: a price tag or value on somebody that hasn't played
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  Speaker 4: even double a baseball. I mean, it's it's you can
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  Speaker 4: see stuff, you can project it, you can say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: look what it could be. And yet it's it's quite
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  Speaker 4: possible that either none of these kids that are going
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  Speaker 4: to the Cardinals are going to be great. Now, Brendan
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  Speaker 4: Donovan is not necessarily great, but he is most certainly
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  Speaker 4: a piece at the highest level that has proven he's
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  Speaker 4: highly capable of certain things. Right, He's not gonna be
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  Speaker 4: the next cowrole, He's not going to be Hulie Rodriguez,
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  Speaker 4: but he can play a bunch of different positions.
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  Speaker 3: He gets on base.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's just kind of a guy that you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the deeper stats kind of say, this
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  Speaker 4: is a guy that helps you win ball games. This
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  Speaker 4: is a guy that puts in positions to win and
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  Speaker 4: score more runs. And so, I mean, I like it.
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  Speaker 4: I was not super high on Jurangelo.
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  Speaker 3: I was not there.
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  Speaker 4: There was red flags when it comes to TYPEE now Typete,
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  Speaker 4: I think being both these guys are young, but TYPEE
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  Speaker 4: twenty years old, got some serious power, but strikes out
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  Speaker 4: at like over a thirty percent clip in a ball.
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  Speaker 4: That's a tough one for me. Now you can obviously
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  Speaker 4: from twenty years old, I was still in college. If
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  Speaker 4: you would have put me in professional baseball, I'd have
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  Speaker 4: struck out more than that, and eventually I learned how
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  Speaker 4: to put the ball in play better. So I'm not
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  Speaker 4: gonna I wouldn't write him off and be like I
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  Speaker 4: don't like him. So it's a great trade. I would
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  Speaker 4: just say, you're getting a proven commodity. You're getting something
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  Speaker 4: that you know is capable of helping your big league
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  Speaker 4: team for a couple projects. And and so it could
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  Speaker 4: come out in the watch that Ben Williamson goes on
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  Speaker 4: and has a you know, learns to to you know,
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  Speaker 4: be more impactful at the dish, and we know what
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  Speaker 4: he does defensively, that he has a great career for
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  Speaker 4: the Tampa Bay Rays, and these other two youngsters go
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  Speaker 4: on and have great careers, and you look back at
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  Speaker 4: it and go, we lost that trade, But right now,
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  Speaker 4: I think you definitely got what you know is more
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  Speaker 4: of a solid piece to help your team this year
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  Speaker 4: try to get over the hump and get to a
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  Speaker 4: World Series and possibly win it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more than I would have given up
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  Speaker 1: for him. I mean, if I just look at the trade,
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  Speaker 1: I don't look. I mean, it's a he's a good player,
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  Speaker 1: he does not have power, he does not have speed,
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  Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a defined position. And so for me,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know if Brendan Donald, I mean that
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  Speaker 1: kind of trade usually four prospects and two draft picks
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  Speaker 1: and between the in the second round.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the type of.
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  Speaker 1: Trade that you usually give for us bona fyte star
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  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that they did give up too much.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think that the Cardinals probably did
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  Speaker 1: win the trade, and I think most of what I'm
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  Speaker 1: reading that's the reaction pretty much across baseball that said,
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  Speaker 1: we have been asking this team to make win now
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  Speaker 1: moves for a while now, and it took them a
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  Speaker 1: while to start making them. And now they seem to
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  Speaker 1: be truly convinced that, yeah, that's where we're at as
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  Speaker 1: an organization. It took them a little while, but they
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  Speaker 1: seem to be truly convinced now that we're making moves
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  Speaker 1: to win a World Series. Here, we're in our World
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  Speaker 1: series window right now, and this makes you better right now,
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  Speaker 1: and it makes you better next year.
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  Speaker 3: So they yeah, I'd have signed off on it.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody would have handed it over to me, I'd say, ah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a pretty good deal for the Cardinals, but makes
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  Speaker 1: us better piece that we need.
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  Speaker 3: We need this guy, So I would have signed off
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  Speaker 3: on that.
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  Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I say, I say job, well done,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll and and look, I'm not that big of
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  Speaker 1: I think I've said throughout the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: Brendan Donovan is an asset. He would be a.
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  Speaker 1: Nice addition to the Seattle Mariners and would help them
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  Speaker 1: get even further.
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  Speaker 3: In the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people out there that
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  Speaker 1: are huge fans of this player, and clearly our general
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  Speaker 1: manager and our president are two of those people. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this was their number one target this offseason. They clearly
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  Speaker 1: liked him a lot better than Geno Suarez because they
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  Speaker 1: could have had Gino Suarez on a one year, fifteen
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  Speaker 1: million dollar deal without giving up any prospects, and they decided, no,
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  Speaker 1: we like this better.
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  Speaker 3: So they right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guarantee you they did some self lebrating
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  Speaker 1: last night, because this was a long process to pull
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  Speaker 1: this thing off, and they got the guy that they
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  Speaker 1: circled that they wanted to get this offseason.
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  Speaker 4: I suppose the way I mean, we've sat here for
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  Speaker 4: nearly a decade, you and I do in the show,
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  Speaker 4: and here are a lot of people that are very
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  Speaker 4: critical of the Mariners as an organization. The front office
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  Speaker 4: falling in love with the prospects. They don't want to
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  Speaker 4: make moves, They won't do anything free agency. Well, they're
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  Speaker 4: hamstrung to some degree and what their ownership wants them
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  Speaker 4: to do in free agency. They don't want to go
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  Speaker 4: out and spend some two hundred three hundred nowadays five hundred,
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  Speaker 4: seven hundred million dollar contract on guys. Fine, but then
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  Speaker 4: you have to build it from within, and you can't
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  Speaker 4: then clutch those like your most precious pearls because you
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  Speaker 4: don't have enough room for all the prospects in the
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  Speaker 4: big leagues. So you have to at one point end
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  Speaker 4: up shifting gears. You have to Okay, what do I want?
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  Speaker 4: And you focus on what do they bring to the table.
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  Speaker 4: What's the positives? Well, you acknowledge and recognize not a
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  Speaker 4: power guy, not a fast guy, Brendan Donovan, not a
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  Speaker 4: master of anything when it comes to defense, but he's
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  Speaker 4: a jack of all trades, master of none, type of
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  Speaker 4: a way. Yes, and on the flip side of it.
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  Speaker 4: Then when you start picking through they're sifting through your prospects,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, you were not getting Kate Anderson, don't even Emerson, No,
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  Speaker 4: you're not even just last keep their names out of
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  Speaker 4: your mouth. Yeah, okay, you don't even think about it.
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  Speaker 4: Now you want to talk about Ben Williamson. Okay, he's
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  Speaker 4: more than just a prospect. He's a guy has proven
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  Speaker 4: he can play one side of the game at the
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  Speaker 4: big league level. And yet there is for sure red
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  Speaker 4: flags about how hard he hits the ball or lack
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  Speaker 4: thereof uh and and if he's going to turn into something.
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  Speaker 4: And then the other two guys they haven't even played
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  Speaker 4: above a ball and you can say, okay, switch pitcher,
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  Speaker 4: but now we were thinking about just moving him to
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  Speaker 4: just a right handed pitcher, and he doesn't. He's not
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  Speaker 4: a top level guy just with one arm. It was
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  Speaker 4: the the intrigue with him, not that he's like not
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  Speaker 4: good and can't be a good big leaguer just right handed,
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  Speaker 4: but the intrigue was the reason he was the first
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  Speaker 4: round were what could you possibly do with this guy
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  Speaker 4: you can throw with both arms and then type and
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  Speaker 4: it's like you got to look at Okay, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 4: reason that they're interested, the reason that they took him
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  Speaker 4: is he's twenty years old and he has serious power.
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  Speaker 4: If he figures out out how to put the barrel
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  Speaker 4: on the ball more often, he might be a real
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  Speaker 4: big piece of this team. He might be the steel
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  Speaker 4: of the whole draft, of this whole trade. If he doesn't,
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  Speaker 4: he's not going to be a big league player for anyone.
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  Speaker 4: And so you have to be like, yeah, we built
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  Speaker 4: the farm system so we can use it for a
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  Speaker 4: piece like this, and this is a piece that basically
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  Speaker 4: the bottom line is what you just said, as well,
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  Speaker 4: you are better now at a big league level, even
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  Speaker 4: though you maybe gave up more than what he's worth or.
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  Speaker 3: More than you even wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe my guess is Suarez was either Plan B, maybe
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  Speaker 1: even planed C. And then once Plan B and Plan
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  Speaker 1: C went, I think the Mariners finally went to the
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals and gave through in a little bit more because
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  Speaker 1: then the very next day, after losing Suarez, finally the
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  Speaker 1: Donovan thing gets cemented. I don't think the Cardinals I
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  Speaker 1: don't think gained they did they gained a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of leverage. I don't think they called up the next
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  Speaker 1: day like, okay, we'll take the deal you've given us.
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  Speaker 1: They probably did throw it, probably sweetened it after Gino
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  Speaker 1: came off the board as a backup plan to what
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  Speaker 1: they were thinking about doing.
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  Speaker 3: The last thing I.
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  Speaker 1: Should mention and we will try to talk about this
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  Speaker 1: more later on in the show. I really do think
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  Speaker 1: spring Training this also is a move that won't impede
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  Speaker 1: the progress of Colt Emerson, the top prospect in the organization.
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  Speaker 3: I think spring.
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  Speaker 1: Training is really going to be a battle between Colt
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  Speaker 1: Emerson and Cole Young to be an opening day starter
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  Speaker 1: for this team on the infield, and the addition of
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  Speaker 1: Donovan means that Donovan can play third or second, whichever
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  Speaker 1: one doesn't end up winning that job in the spring.
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  Speaker 1: And if both of them ball out, and if both
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  Speaker 1: of them end up early in the season in your
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  Speaker 1: starting lineup, then Donovan has the flexibility.
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  Speaker 3: He could even play left.
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  Speaker 1: He could turn into that Ben Zobris super utility type
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  Speaker 1: that is in the lineup every day but doesn't play
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  Speaker 1: the same position every day.
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  Speaker 3: He could be that for you.
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  Speaker 1: And he could also be your DH of course, which
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  Speaker 1: is another avenue that they could go down. But finally
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  Speaker 1: it's done. The Mariners have Brendan Donovan Adam to the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if anyone's disputing that the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: got better yesterday for twenty twenty six. So we'll try
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  Speaker 1: to find some time talk more about it later on
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  Speaker 1: in the show. And Anders and I did a Stove
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  Speaker 1: podcast special Emergency one yesterday, so that's available to you
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  Speaker 1: at ninety three to three.
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  Speaker 3: Kjar dot com. Coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: Jesseman McIntyre was out at the Big Opening Night. Last
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  Speaker 1: night caught up with Reeke Woolan. We'll hear from Reek
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  Speaker 1: and talk about him behind his back. Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: Just the things that you know, the things that I
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  Speaker 5: learned when I was with Planting twenty three, just schrammatically
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  Speaker 5: and then getting to learn from him as a coach
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  Speaker 5: as well and as a person.
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  Speaker 6: Just the grit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he wakes up at insane hours.
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  Speaker 5: He gets to the facility at four four thirty in
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  Speaker 5: the morning and he's there later than anyone.
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  Speaker 6: He's just a he's a grinder.
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  Speaker 5: He loves football, and you know he's he's very honest
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  Speaker 5: and he's very uh forthcoming with his players that I think,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a lot of myself and a lot of
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  Speaker 5: the guys really appreciate about him.
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  Speaker 1: Has Sam Darnold talking about Clint Kobiak his OC maybe
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  Speaker 1: for the final time, his OC coming up on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: Just so happens to be Super Bowl sixty where we
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  Speaker 1: are broadcasting all week long. It is Chalking Back in
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  Speaker 1: the morning. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM
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  Speaker 1: live from San Francisco. Radio Row Greg Bell is going
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  Speaker 1: to be joining us here in about two minutes.
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  Speaker 3: But let us.
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  Speaker 1: Begin this hour with some headlines brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Frost Brew Corps Light Choose Chill. Sunday three point thirty
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  Speaker 1: kickoff here from Santa Clara, the Super Bowl, Seahawks versus Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: in so many ways to discuss it all week long,
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  Speaker 1: and certainly coming up with Greg Bell here in about
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  Speaker 1: a minute and a half.
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  Speaker 3: We also have news.
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  Speaker 1: Drake May says that for whatever reason, his flight to
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco healed his shoulder magically, so he sounds like
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  Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent and ready to go. Josh McDaniels'
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  Speaker 1: OC said it will not be an issue on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Roger Goodell spoke yesterday the commissioner always does the week
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  Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. He discussed the future of an
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  Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule and said that it's not imminent, but
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  Speaker 1: it is something that they would like to do eventually.
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  Speaker 1: The Rooney rule was also discussed after zero out of
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  Speaker 1: ten head coaches were head coaches were hired in this
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  Speaker 1: most recent cycle, and none of them were African Americans.
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks sale also, Roger Goodell shot that down, saying that
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  Speaker 1: he has neither fined the Seahawks in this process to
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  Speaker 1: try to find a new ownership group, and so that
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  Speaker 1: was clarified by the Commissioner yesterday as well.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk more about that with Greg coming up here
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  Speaker 3: in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cracking Ticket Tuesday, so be listening every hour
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  Speaker 1: for your chance to win some cracking tickets. They're taking
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  Speaker 1: on the Ducks tonight at seven o'clock. The NBA trading
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  Speaker 1: deadline is just three days away, and the Mariners finally
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  Speaker 1: completed their deal with the Saint Louis Cardinals to bring
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  Speaker 1: in Brendan Donovan, trading away a package that included slick
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  Speaker 1: third baseman Ben Williamson, also Durangelo Saint Gie the ambidextrius,
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  Speaker 1: former first round pick of the Mariners, and also another
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  Speaker 1: good prospect in Ty Pete. They also gave up a
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  Speaker 1: draft pick in that trade as well to bring in
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  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan, the vers tile cardinal, left handed hitter, second basement,
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  Speaker 1: third baseman, outfielder. He's won a Gold Glove as a
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  Speaker 1: utility man that is known.
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  Speaker 3: For his hit tool. We've already discussed it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll try to find some time to talk more about
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  Speaker 1: it coming up a little bit later on in the show,
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  Speaker 1: but right now it's time to talk to Seahawks football
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  Speaker 1: with our Seahawks insider Greg.
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  Speaker 7: Bell with the Bell Tolls.
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  Speaker 8: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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  Speaker 8: Now with twelfth Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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  Speaker 1: Bucky, I, like me and many others, Greg Bell loves
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  Speaker 1: Opening Night.
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  Speaker 3: It's his favorite thing to do is.
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  Speaker 1: To go wrestle with a bunch of reporters that don't
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  Speaker 1: follow sports and try to actually do his job.
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  Speaker 3: He loves it.
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  Speaker 1: He loves that empty and and Bravo and everybody is
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  Speaker 1: in his path between him and Sam Darnold to ask
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  Speaker 1: questions prior to the supermol.
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  Speaker 4: I am sure that there's probably he probably just walks
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  Speaker 4: around and takes it as a moment where.
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  Speaker 3: He can learn. Yeah, probably take some notes, take some.
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  Speaker 4: Notes and learn from those that have never done the
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  Speaker 4: job that he has done for decades. And it just
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  Speaker 4: probably goes up afterwards and just says, hey, how did
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  Speaker 4: you do that so well?
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  Speaker 3: Greg? Did we accurately describe that?
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  Speaker 2: Sort of? The thing is they aren't even journalists. They're
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  Speaker 2: just people off the street. They don't have credentials. I think,
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  Speaker 2: what's a journalist anymore? If you just have a phone,
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  Speaker 2: you're a journalist. But they they are journalists. Some are kids,
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  Speaker 2: some are people who are different walks away. I'd met
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  Speaker 2: a woman last night who was a very charming woman.
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  Speaker 2: She's and she was proud to tell me she just
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  Speaker 2: turned fifty, which made me feel old. She was wearing
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  Speaker 2: a Miss MS period of Louisiana beauty pageant satchet and
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  Speaker 2: I asked her what what is this all about? Because
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  Speaker 2: your beauty pageant keep not the stereotype, but you Miss
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  Speaker 2: you would think miss Miss Louisiana, but not a fifty
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  Speaker 2: year old MS. She said, she's an entrepreneurial Miss Louisiana.
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  Speaker 2: And she went on to tell me about how she
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  Speaker 2: got there and what she doe just well, okay, just
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. It's okay, I get it for what
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  Speaker 2: it's for. Yeah, very little value, but all entertainment. And
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  Speaker 2: I will say last night was weird the tableau of
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  Speaker 2: being in a giant warehouse room of a convention center
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  Speaker 2: rather than a sporting venue that those used to be
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  Speaker 2: at the football stadiums, at the game stadiums. When I
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  Speaker 2: first started covering Super Bowls twenty five years ago. They
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: held him on a Tuesday afternoon at two o'clock or
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: so in the stadium the game is when we played
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: it. It was your first chance to see the field tainted
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: with the logos. It was the players were wearing their
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl uniforms. About the pads of chorus. But you
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: usually just you'd sit in the stands and talk to
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the backup third string linebacker, just hanging out in the stands,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and then the stars had their podiums. It is totally changing.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Last night, by the way, was not the over the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: top weirdness that it usually is. Oh okay, it was
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit more subdued. The surge.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Did see Sam Darnold have a ham hat on? So
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: you're saying, that's pretty uh, run of the mill.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: That was the lead to my story.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Actually that was he wore a hat and that was
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: that Guillermo guy from the Jimmy Kimmel Show. His Jimmy,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Jim Kimmel's sidekick was and then he also gave him
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: a Mexican serape, a blanket to put on. The best
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: prop that they gave Donald, somebody gave him a Marble
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Man portrait, the Marble Man. I'm sure you guys have
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: talked about this. Yeah, Sam Donald's grandfather. It was the
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Marble Man the camera and they gave him a portrait
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: of the Marble Man. Except it wasn't his grandfather. It
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: was Sam Donald, his real face superimposed on the Marboro
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Man picture. And they handed him that and Donald was excited.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: He said, do I get to keep this? And they said, yeah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: this is of course. So Donald did the last thirty minutes
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: or so of his thing. He is the Marble Man
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: sitting at his feet right below the podium. Anyway, you
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: got it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: You got a better attitude about it than the doctor
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: z Paul Zimmerman used to have.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Oh I know, I know, I knew.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I covered Super Bowls with Paul Zimmerman. You can see
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the steam coming out of his ears.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: He was murder people.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I've gotten over myself about that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: But yeah, you're You're not the only one who came.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Up to me last night, teasing me because they know
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: how I truly feel about it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider, But what.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Did you get out of last night other than a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: ham hat story? Did you get anything tangible that is
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: going to affect possibly the game on Sunday?
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: I did.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak, to his credit, basically said I'm going to
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: be the Raiders coach. I'll deal with that Monday is
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: what he said. I'm all in on the game. I'm
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: all in on the Seahawks. I've worked all my life
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to get into this game and I'm not messing that up.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I asked him what the tangible distracted In a second
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: interview was last weekend they practiced Friday and Saturday, as
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know in Rent and Friday night, Mark Davis, the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Raiders owner, had dinner with him and I think it
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: was El Gaucho Help You. And then again on saturd
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: today he interviewed with the Raiders and the Cardinals in
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: one day when they were also having a practice, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I asked him what, unlike the previous first zoom interviews,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: how these second in person interviews that took away from
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: his preparation. He said, you know, what they didn't because
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I just winged it. I didn't prepare for the second
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: one because I was just myself and I did all
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the preparation in the summer. When you align what is
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: important to you and your values as if you became
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: a head coach, what your leaders, what your ethos would be,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: and how you articulate that in an interview. But to this,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I just was myself and I figured, if they don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: want to take me, this is not the job for me.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be myself and wing it. So that's
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: what he said. He didn't actually prepare much for the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: second interview that took away from his preparation. So, yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Drake May did say that about his shoulder, it's a
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: non issue. He also said that somebody asked him who
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: he's most proud of, and he went on a couple
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: of minutes about his mom, and that means really happy
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to hear a young, twenty something millionaire Super Bowl quarterback
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: talk about his mom sitting in the cold bleachers watching
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: all of his games, growing up in his siblings games,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and that even though he's reached this pinnacle of his
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: professional and sporting life, he'll never forget mom. And for
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: drabbing him to all the games. The my mom's ninety
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and just don't remember my name and memory care back
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: in Michigan, and I think about my mom a lot,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: and Greg May maybe go God, kids got it not
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to see Hawk fans group for Drake May on Sunday.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, nice, somebody feet are still on the yeah, I.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Mean the yeah, the idea of these guys are humans.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: As much as I think people in our industry are
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: just fans in general at times kind of just think
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: you're supposed to be here to entertain me, they still
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: actually have lives outside of me for us, So I'm
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: with you on that. And yet, uh, you know, it
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: does come down to the game time, and so just
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: arching feel what you get. I mean, there's a you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a bit of a circus that goes on around the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, and yet you have to kind of try
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: to stay in this the correct focus mode even though
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: extra stuff is being asked of you. So when you
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: see these guys, did any of it look like it
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: was wearing on any of them? Or did they look
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: more kind of excited to soak it all in.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: The ladder?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: By far for the Seahawks, it struck me that Mike
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: McDonald and those nonsense coach, the son of a West
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Point grad, an army man who yells if you're walking,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you're wrong to his guys and things like that, has
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: told that. The players told me last night. Mike McDonald
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: has told us to lean into this. That's how Donald
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: put it. Lean into the stupidity and the over the
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: top excess of the Super Bowl and the fun and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the media and the Kenny McIntosh stole Diamo's camera man's
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: camera and was walking around filming his teammates. Riek Wellen
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: took off the necklace that was around his neck and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: handed to the fans, screaming and chanting his name. John
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Shows Battist, the practice squad running back was in the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: podium that was facing the fans and they were asking
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: him Drake or Kendrick, and he went crazy trying to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: profess that he had Kendrick before Kendrick Lamar had any
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: of his twenty seven Grammys.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Don't you know that?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: They were all like, this is fun stuff, Let's have
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: fun with this, and more so than the other three
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl teams Seahawks I've covered like the Delizia Boomacors
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: had its personalities and Richard Sherman and Michael Bennett and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm just here so I don't get fine, Marshaun Lynch.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Those guys just took over the show because of the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: force of their personalities. This team doesn't have those personalities.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: But I thought from the bottom of the roster to
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the top of the undrafted rookies to the stars, they
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: were far more into the show of it and the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: scene of it. And they really embraced it last night,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and they said they all got that from a on
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that he told them when they get down here, look Sunday, Monday,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Tuesday is just for the media. It's just this crazy circuit.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Have fun with it, enjoy the accomplishment of getting here.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: We'll walk you down on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday with football.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: But he his normal cadence is that of a regular
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: season week because Tuesday is their normal day off. Anyway, Today,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: their Tuesday is going to be in the immedia thing
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: in the morning light of this morning at their team
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: hotel here in San Jose. But they're not going to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: be on the practice shield. And then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: they are. They're going to go into lockdown mode Wednesday,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Thursday Friday. Mason Richmond, the rookie backup tackle, was telling
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: me this that he told him we'll walk you down.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about focusing on the game. Let's get you
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: there there Wednesday. That enjoy it until then.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Greg bellis with us si owks Insider, joining us here
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: on chucking back in the mornings. And of course you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: could follow Greg throughout this entire Super Bowl weeking or
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: follow Greg all year along at GBL Seattle on X
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and the News Tribune dot com complete coverage of the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Seahawks and Super Bowl sixty. Another story yesterday was Roger
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Goodell speaking. He does that every year at the Super Bowl,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and he did touch upon the Seahawks sale potential sale
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: coming up, and also tried to clear up some misconceptions.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Tell us more about that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Well, let me treface it by saying, Roger Goodell is
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a stooge for the owners. He's hired by the owners.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: He's paid forty four million dollars a year by the owners.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So you take it with a one side of maybe
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: the truth and certainly the issue.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: The owners want.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks sold. They will, as I mentioned yesterday, will
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: establish a new valuation of all the NFL franchises under
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the new media rights teams, and that those media right
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: deals bringing eleven billion with a B dollars to the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: league each year. So the owners want to know what
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: their new value of their franchises are. They haven't had
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a sale since twenty twenty three. The Washington Commander is
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: just over six billion dollars. Is sale is going to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: lap back. It's going to probably pushed the ten billion
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: that is the NFL or the North American sports record
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the Lakers sale. So they let's set that aside. I'm
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: not convinced that the league didn't find or otherwise trying
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to pressure Jody Allen to sell. Whether Goodell says they
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: find him five million or not. You can think which
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you want of the Wall Street journal or journalists in general,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: but in general practice journalists and enterprises just don't go
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: around making up stories. So I don't think they didn't
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: vet their sources telling them that the league has fined
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the team. And for Goodell to say it didn't happen
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: didn't mean it didn't. But having said all that, the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: most the news wasn't Goodell's Google book, except at the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: very end when to our answer that Jody it's up
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to Jody Allen when the Ox team, which is true,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: but for the committed publicly state that to state the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: obvious reinforces that it's on her, not the league. But
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the news of it was after Bob Canota the seatut
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: of times, and I went up to Burke Cold, who
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't have been exactly appreciate us going right up
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to him as he was talking to his wife. But
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Burt Cold and the vice chair, I told Bob, we
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: may not get a chance to talk to anybody from
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: ownership to Jody Allen never talks to us, and they
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: may sell the team before we'd ever have a chance
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to talk to Burke Cold again. So I want to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: talk to him, and we know him and we see
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: him all the road games. And he was cordial enough,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: but he said my statement, our statement is we put
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: out our statement, which was, of course, the team is
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: not for sale. But they went on to say that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the Blazer. I asked him, when the Blazers say I
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: was going to close the Portland Trail Blazers, that Paul
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Haunts trust also off and he said in a couple
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: of months. I said to ysinking spring. Then he said, yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: laur that's still on track for the next couple of months.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: There's your time for when the Seahawks sale can begin.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Not that they'll wait till the actually full on closing
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: of the Blazers, but you could state, you could imagine
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and that the state attorneys aren't going to want to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: be doing a sale of the NBA team for four
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: billion dollars and a sale of their NFL team for
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: eight to ten billion dollars at the same time. So
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: when the reports came out that this is going to
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: be soon after the season, that's not entirely wrong. Soon
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: could be in April or May, because the season that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: started till September. So Cold kind of gave me without
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: giving it to me, the outline of when this thing
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: could happen. Then I asked them, is there anything in
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the state, because no one's read it except for Cold
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: and Jody Allen and the lawyers. Is there anything in
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the estate dictation from the Lake Paul Island that says
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: this team must be sold to a Seattle buyer and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: kept in the city. Is there anything contracts with that
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: says you can't move it, you buy it, you must
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: keep it. In Seattle, and he said, I'm not going
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to get into the details of that, but I will
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: tell you that the Allen family, since they bought the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: team in nineteen ninety seven, has committed the sports in
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: this region. He went on to talk about soccer even
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and they talked about even the World Cup back in
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven and bringing the World Cup to Seattle,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: which is why they built the stadium to the dimensions
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that they did international soccer with and length.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: And all of it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: He basically was telling me they ain't going anywhere. So
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: for any of the part of the fan base who
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: might be worried about that, I get no sense whatsoever
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that this sale is going to result in the move
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: of the franchise. To the contrary, the league wants to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: stay here. The Pacific Northwest is kind of the place
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: to be for rich billionaire people that can buy professional
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: sports teams, and they want to have the Amazon Microsoft
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest wealth. So the franchise is thriving. Really, the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: big change, like I told Ian on the area yesterday,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the big change is going to be for the people
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that work upstairs in that building that are on the
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: football side, because that's who a No owner could come
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: in and change the president, Chuck Arnold to come a guy,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the operations folks, the marketing. A new owner who has
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: made his money or her money somewhere else could bring
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: in their own people that do that. But a new
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: owner would be absolutely stupid to change the football side
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: because of how successful it is. You don't change the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: football side of the Super Bowl team just because you
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: bought a club. So they're not getting a Daniel Snyder
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: or Jerry Jones here.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: All right, well, great stuff, thank you, really appreciate it.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: More FaceTime would be nice while we're here in northern
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: California together.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, come on down.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: At ten am, come on down a whole day down
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: here as well.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe bucket and I'll make the trip down there.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go have the b bus every half hour.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Come on, well, we will see you. We will see
• 30:52
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• 30:55
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• 30:56
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• 30:57
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  Speaker 3: Happy super Bowl.
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  Speaker 7: Week, Gene, Happy super Bowl Week, Fellas. I'm sure it's great.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to getting there soon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. When do you get here Friday? Did you tell us?
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  Speaker 7: Yes? I do land Friday, and I hope to see.
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  Speaker 7: If not, maybe we'll get a quick selfie in the
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I at least like to yeah, at least like to
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 34:01
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• 34:04
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• 34:06
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• 34:09
  Speaker 1: game from an officials perspective, And let's go ahead and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: start with the crew itself. Tell us about Sean Smith
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and his crew. Are they going to screw this thing
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: up on Sunday?
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: No, I don't think so. Sewan is a really, really
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: good referee and has worked a lot of postseason stuff,
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: and I know, I know we'll have the crew ready
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: ready to work. So it's not a normal week. You
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: don't pretend it's a normal week, especially during the weekdays
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: here leading up to it. But the more the crew
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: will get together here and start into their pregame or
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: pre week preparation. They'll be ready to go, just get
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: the big ones this week.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: What goes into that tell us about pregame preparation for
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: What do you mean by that from an official standpoint, Well,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 7: When you do get the phone, it is a memorable call, right,
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's one of those times that you forever
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: remember when you get your Super Bowl call. And then
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: it depends on how many family members you have. In
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: my case with all the Italian family in mind, it
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: was the shock of getting tickets for twenty family members,
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: which is very very you know, depressing, but in all honesty,
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: when do you do get there and they'll get in
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: their midweek, you're you really dive into it, and you
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: do that through the most of the postseason. You should
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: be doing it through the entire season and postseason specific.
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: But it is team tendencies. It is team matchups. You know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: the flavor of those teams, the play you know, you're
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: you're going through multiple playlists or games and looking for trends, tendencies,
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: and then you go into the individual matchups and discussed
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: as individual massups with each of the crew members that
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: will be focused primarily in those areas. So there's a lot,
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: there's a lot to that and I think there, you know,
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: that's where the comfort level starts to set in. You're
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: starting to see those plays, discuss those matchups, and then
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: when you get out there Sunday, hopefully those same and
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: it's those same situations show themselves live, knowing that you
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: had spoken through them and prep for those and then
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: there's a level of comfort and confidence that goes with that.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: So it's a great week. It's a great week for
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: the families, it's a great week for the cruise. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: there's a ton of pressure and you understand that, you
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: embrace it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Geene, We've talked to you at length about your feelings
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: and your philosophy of you know, getting the whales, sketching
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: the whales and not the minnos is when you get
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: to the biggest game of them all, do you feel
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: like your counter part or your your your peers that
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: they all have kind of a little bit of that
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: as well, that they're not wanting to insert themselves in
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: the game unless they need to.
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you do, Bucky. I mean, you definitely
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: understand the moment. I mean, I know, another one of
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: those times in life that it froze. That it is
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: for all the viewers and everybody. It's right before that
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: kickoff takes place and you see the sixty seventy thousand
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: flash bulbs go off and you're kicking off the Super Bowl,
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: and I think your level of awareness, just your being
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: in that moment, it elevates again. And that's just a
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: human condition. I think it does for everyone that participates
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: in games of this magnitude. And I think that's kind
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: of what you trust is it's going to elevate me.
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: The fouls will jump out at you, just relaxed, free
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: through them. Players are going to play right to the edge.
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: They have to. They're playing for it all, and you
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: understand that. So you want to elevate yourself to just
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: digest this stuff. The foules will jump out, they'll show
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: themselves whenever they occur, and you just don't go seeking things.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Gene s ter Torres, when a CBS rules analysts and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: former NFL official, how many Super Bowls?
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: I was aldering at the Super Bowl forty four when
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: the Saints beat the Colts, and then I referred was
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: in white hat in Super Bowl fifty two when the
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles and the Philly Special defeated the Patriots in Minnesota.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, no matter, I mean it
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: really is, you don't really win.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: You can't win as an NFL official.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I don't remember one Super Bowl where at the end
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: of it they're like, you know who really had the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: best game? It was that Gens territor. Yeah, and Jean's
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: territor really did shine. I mean he was the real MVP.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Didn't blow a single call.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: But you do remember.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: The ones, especially in Seattle, where the officials played a
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: role in the game. I mean you're probably friends with
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Bill Levy. That's the famous one here in Seattle. I mean,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Seahawk fans still to this day just don't trust the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: officials when they get ready to play in a Super
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Bowl because of Bill Levy.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Does he still wear that to this day? Does he
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: does it?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I mean how much did it affect him that he
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: got so harshly criticized after that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Game was played.
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: You know, believe has passed in the last year and
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: a half or so, and it was a fantastic mentor
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: to me. It also is somebody that that I think
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: you know as a young referee, as a young official,
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: you always looked up to those experienced officials when you
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: got in the NFL didn't always have to be a referee.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: In my case, I kind of gravitated to them, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: not just to how good I thought they weren't managing
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: the games, the production of the games, the intensity, and
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: you're focused and trying to learn as much as you can.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: But then you watch them go through pressurized situations where
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: fraction of a reaction, a play that happens in a
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: second or two can basically define a good portion. Unfortunately,
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: in some cases, you know your entire career, so you
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: do embrace. Again, when I talk about the pressure of
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: it and the magnitude of these things, it kind of
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: goes to that, right And I know that when Bill
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: came around that following season to the training camps, naturally
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: there were questions that were asking of him, and you know,
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: I thought he was just a stand up individual. It
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: was a close play, it was not an easy play
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: to work on, a quick turnover or those situations. It's
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: madness out there in real time when the field flips
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: like that. But I think it's again, it's another great
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: lesson in life. You can work three hours of perfect
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: football and as you said, would not be recognized whatsoever,
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: and then as fate would have it, you can have
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: a reaction that happens within seconds that lives maybe beyond
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: your years. That's the pressure of this business. That's kind
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: of why you do it in some ways. So he
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: just was a great mentor and a great man as well.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I love the way you put that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: That's why you do it as the pressure, because then
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: you feel good when you do well under the pressure.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: We have nobody acknowledges that, yeah, you're.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Definitely not going to get a trophy at the end. Yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: you just kind of hope that the.
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: Best bunky, you know that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: That's kind of that's kind of the beauty of the profession,
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: to be perfectly honest, A lot too deep this morning,
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: but it is that, uh that ever wanting to be
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: putting yourself into an extremely uncomfortable situation, and truly the
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: goal was to manage that situation and then not be recognized.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: And as we move through this life and this you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: everybody wants to be click baited and seen on social
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: spaces and things. I lived through the evolution of that
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: as an official. But then the philosophy of putting yourself
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: in that situation to not be recognized, it was like
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: the ultimate goal. Those are the labels that officials kind
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: of truly do wear, right, I mean, that is kind
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: of what this is. And it's a deeper moment and
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: it should be because it is that. And then you
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: let the you let the the entertainers entertain, right, but
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: you just keep the thing on the track and let
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: the game evolve. And guess what, if you have to
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: interject yourself, then you do because that's what's right for
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: the game. So it does become a real big thing.
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: Those are the conversations that I know I'll be having
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: with the officials prepping into this week and and just
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: in life, because that's kind of what this is, and
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: you've got to embrace it and take ahead on.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: You know, you never hear the Tom Tom Brady step aside,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Bill Belicher step aside.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: It's time to rule the envy.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Most valuable official, come on up here, let's interview.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: You give you a trope? Is never going to say it,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: that's right. See, was there ever a time?
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I imagine many big moment for anyone in
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: any walk of life. There's some bigger moments and not
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: so big, and so nerves come along with that.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: You've discussed that a little bit.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Was there ever a time that you were especially nervous,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: whether it's walking out in the tunnel or or the
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: crunch time of the game when it's coming down to
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: the wire. Was there ever a time that you can
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: remember and what was that situation?
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: Like? One thousand percent and perfectly honest, I had close
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: to anxiety panic attack going through the simulation and then
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: the coin toss itself. When you live in an officials world,
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: it's a very unscripted life. I speak at dinners and
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: don't write anything on paper. I want to fill the room.
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: You want to react to the situation. That's what you're
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: kind of your DNA strand kind of put me in
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: at least. But then I had this scripted Super Bowl
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: presentation to do in front of one hundred and fifty
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: million people. In my case, I had a gentleman who
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: was a World War One veteran who was the honorary captain.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: I think I mispronounced his name five times. I believe
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: it was Willie Williams. I think I called him Woodrow Wilson,
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: used three different names to announce him right before Super
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: Bowl fifty two cointalk. I forgot to ask the Eagles
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: initially what they wanted to choose heads or tails and
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: handed the coin to the honorary captain. Who's night Gosh
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: for Perry Paganelli, my back judge, he stepped in and went,
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: WHOA hold on a minute, we need to ask the
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: Eagles heads or tails before we go through the rest
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: of this, so that moment will forever live with me
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: and I can see myself like yesterday showering going Willie Williams,
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: Willy Williams, not Woodrow Wilson, you know, all those things,
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: and then it hits you, you know. So once we
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: got through with the coin talks, it was all downhill
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: from there.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Coin is a tough part. That's awesome.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, you know.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: There is a lot of talk about Bill Belichick not
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: making the Hall of Fame and Robert Kraft, and I
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: won't ask you to weigh in on that, but there's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: only one NFL official in the Hall of Fame. Do
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you feel like, I mean, I'm not gonna put you
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: in the uncomfortable position to talk about yourself, but do
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you feel like since the officials are such a big
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: part of the game that the you guys should be
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: more represented in the NFL Hall of Fame.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for the question. Yes I do, and I
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: think if you look at the other major league sports
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: Baseball and basketball, they do have their percentage of those
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: individuals male and female that were great contributors to this
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: game through their life's journey through that portion of time.
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: And yes, I do really firmly believe now, as you
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: mentioned Art, the late Art McNally, who was the first
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: supervisor to put together the NFL when the Super Bowl
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: was formed, uh, and then build that staff and go
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: through that entire process, is the only official that is
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: recognized right now in the Hall of Fame. But you
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: know what, in our house, there's a Hall of fame
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: of officials that you know, there's a gentleman Jim Tunney
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: who just passed the first referee really to have a
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: microphone on TV and to be that bridge. And then
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: you had the great Terry Mark Bright who was an
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: amazing referee read cash and them as first down signals
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: and announcements. But yeah, we have our Hall of Fame.
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: I really wish that the National Football League would embrace that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: It's the thirty thirteam in this day and age, and
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: it should be treated as such a more humble opinion.
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: And these individuals, male and female, have done an awful
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: lot for this game in multiple ways. And I think
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: if you did again you talked about coach Bilichick. Look,
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: I was really fortunate to be on the field during
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: their tenure and their reign, right so I was in
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: great football games and their football people and the officials
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: are too. In that real integral sense, you know, that
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: was the respect factor that you wanted was to be
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: recognized and appreciated by the players, the coaches, and I
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: think it would be fitting that that then would culminate
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: at some point when there was a small section in Campton,
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: very small percentage, but understand.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: So Gene, I mean, everybody being human, I'm sure that
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: you guys don't want to take any preconceived notions or
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: previous interactions with a coach and you'd be that weighs
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: into how you're going to go about a game. But
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: I am just kind of curious if you've heard from where,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: if your what your opinion would be based on just
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: the two years that we've got to watch the Seahawks
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: head coach Mike McDonald interact with referees, Is it Is
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: it positive? Is there would do you remember times where
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: it was like, oh, like calling this guy's game again,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: and he's always on me about stuff and it makes
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: me kind of want to throw more flags on him.
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: Never wanted the show wore flags. And I think my
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: basketball background and having those eighty hoop games every year
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: and coaches that were way more animated right in the
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: college basketball intimate space of those arenas allowed me to
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: become somewhat of a psychologist for all of them. So
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: what I really tried to do, and yes, like quite honestly,
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: there were to let those Knights drive into a game
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: or arriving in the city thinking I've got two hours
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: of this tonight. You know, I've got to try to
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: manage some of this too. But I think it's very
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: wise to understand the makeup. Some coaches like to be
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: talked to, Some coaches don't want to be bothered. Some
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: coaches want to be informed on some of the detail.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Some don't want to be bothered whatsoever with that right,
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: But I think you do do those profiles. You want
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: to make that coach as comfortable as possible with that
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: percentage of the game where you're going to be directly
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: involved with him. So I do. I did do that,
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: and I think it's wise to do. And a coach
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: McDonald's teem's like a business guy. He looks like he
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: wants the information when it's pertinent to him, give him,
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: you know, give him the result, right or give him
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: the options. And I think that's how you navigate it right.
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: You don't want to go over to a coach and say, hey,
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: we have a fifteen yard follow in the defense, in
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: a five yard follow in the offense. If you do this,
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: then this you go to them and say, coach, you
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: want second to two or first or five right of
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: things of that nature. You get to them, you get out.
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: And I also think by watching coach and I haven't
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: didn't have the pleasure to have him when he was
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: a head coach in the league. If there's issues, you
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: address those, right. You want to let the coach know.
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: There's that little window during a game where you may
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: look at that coach during a TV timeout and say, listen,
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: twenty seven is close to the edge here. I don't
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: want to you know, we don't want to interject ourselves.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: I want to give you my information from what I'm
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: feeling out there, I'm passing it on to you, you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: tell them to just tone it to the little one
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: click lower and we're good to go. Right, That's where
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: I think you start now becoming that person that's managing
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: this not to help teams information. It's processing, it's it's
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: getting me what I need to do to do my
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: best and disseminating it back. And I think that's where
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: you go. And Coach seems like very very engaged in
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: that regard, and as most are.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: So are you going to hang out with this weekend?
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: Then ab a rup, I'm going to go right to
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: my hotel room and pull the blinds, turn the heater
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: up to eighty three, and enjoy some warm weather because
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: we're still like twenty five inches underground here in snow,
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: so not really sure yet. You know, we've got some
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: things to do. I'm gonna be with Kevin, Harlan, Kurt
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: Warner for some portion of this week and then naturally
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: for the game. So it's always great together with the
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: Westwood One family and spend some time with them, and
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: then quite honestly, you know, it's just to get out
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: a little bit and just feel it. There's nothing like it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: You guys know that the buzz that I'm sure is
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: already there on a Tuesday, it just grows every single day,
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: and then we get to the weekend in the beginning
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: of a Friday, Saturday prep and it just builds to
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: a place that it's a special thing. And so I'm
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: just looking forward to hopefully another memorable weekend.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Well, you'll be on our radio station again on Sunday,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: so we're covering the game from Westwood one, So we look.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Forward to that. Thank you, Jean.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we get to see you on Friday. If not,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: we'll do it another time.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: And you got it of a great week, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Here's somebody that actually has more at stake than.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Eric, how's it going in the morning, How
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  Speaker 3: are you doing? How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 1: You're you're a Super Bowl week, You're a few days
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  Speaker 1: away from the Super Bowl I mean, has that soaked
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  Speaker 1: in at all?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, the welcome event was pretty surreal yesterday, just like
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  Speaker 10: the sheer size of you know what's going on here
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  Speaker 10: kind of hit me. I was wondering when it was
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  Speaker 10: gonna hit me, but uh, yeah, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: How is this team different, man?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it feels different from the outside, but obviously
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  Speaker 4: not being in that locker room, you know, you can't
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  Speaker 4: really tell you've been around. I mean you've you've been
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  Speaker 4: in multiple different organizations. What is it that makes this
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  Speaker 4: team special and it has gotten you guys at this point?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, obviously we have a great roster.
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  Speaker 10: Of players, really talented individuals. I think one of our
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  Speaker 10: biggest edges is how close we are in the locker
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  Speaker 10: room outside the the building. You know, guys, I'll hang
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  Speaker 10: out with each other constantly, talking to each other, just
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  Speaker 10: like a group of best friends that are also really
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  Speaker 10: good athletes. So I think it's kind of an edge
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  Speaker 10: when you care about the guys you're playing for.
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  Speaker 3: I think, how much has A. J.
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  Speaker 1: Barner's trash talk helped this team win this year? What
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  Speaker 1: kind of impact has that had on your success this season?
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  Speaker 7: Man? Aj?
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  Speaker 10: Is just mentality overall? Is uh for the offense especially,
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  Speaker 10: he's a tone setter and uh, like I think a
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  Speaker 10: voice in the huddle.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 10: Sometimes you know, we got a lot of guys that
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  Speaker 10: are like cool, calm under under pressure, like not not
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  Speaker 10: as vocal as he is, and then.
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  Speaker 9: AJ will just pop in the.
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  Speaker 10: Huddle and and you know, get us fired.
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  Speaker 7: Up for the drive.
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  Speaker 9: It's it's a nice thing to have and you need.
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  Speaker 10: A guy like that on your team that is a
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  Speaker 10: tone setter. And uh, you know when I see a
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  Speaker 10: j setting the edge so you know, violently and aggressively,
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  Speaker 10: it's inspiring to me, uh to to you know, play
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  Speaker 10: at the same level. So uh, shout out to him
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  Speaker 10: for you know, taking on that role. That's just that's
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  Speaker 10: just really who he is. He's a tone setter on
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  Speaker 10: our offense. And uh, he's a he's a great player, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard he's he's got quite the game. Trash
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  Speaker 1: talk game as well. They talk about that quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: But I know you like him. It's clearly you respect him.
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  Speaker 1: I love him as a teammate in that tight end room.
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  Speaker 1: But have you ever just tap McDonald on the shoulder
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  Speaker 1: and said, hey, I can run that barnyard play. Give
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  Speaker 1: me a give me a quarterback sneak. Have you seen
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  Speaker 1: the guns that I've got, Let me get a shot
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  Speaker 1: at that.
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  Speaker 2: No, he does a great job.
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  Speaker 10: I worked it just in case, you know, something would
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  Speaker 10: happen to him. Oh, but but he does a great
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  Speaker 10: job with it.
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  Speaker 9: And uh, you know, he's just such.
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  Speaker 10: A huge, strong individual man, Like.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, that's his play.
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  Speaker 10: Regarding the trash talks, sometimes it's like it's kind of funny.
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  Speaker 10: In my past, I've been like, you know, I try
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  Speaker 10: to love up the defensive ends the edge.
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  Speaker 3: Of guys a little bit, you know.
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  Speaker 7: So there, you.
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  Speaker 10: Know, because those are some of the best athletes in
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  Speaker 10: the world, you know, and my job is to take
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  Speaker 10: care of them. It just has no regard for that.
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  Speaker 10: So I just kind of embraced it and like it is.
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  Speaker 7: What it is. We're rolling.
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  Speaker 4: Take me inside, man. I mean, you're getting to experience
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  Speaker 4: a super Bowl, you know. I mean I grew up
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  Speaker 4: I played baseball, and so yeah, I always had the
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  Speaker 4: dream of playing in the World Series, and you kind
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  Speaker 4: of go through that. And yet even when you get
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  Speaker 4: to the professional level, you don't necessarily expect or or
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  Speaker 4: know that you're going to get the opportunity to play
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  Speaker 4: in the big game.
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  Speaker 3: So take me inside. What's it like?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, is there a little Eric Soubert in there
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of looking around going, oh my gosh, this
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  Speaker 4: is a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 9: Definitely.
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  Speaker 10: I'm just trying to stay you know, present in the
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  Speaker 10: moment and taking like the little things, you know, because
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  Speaker 10: I feel like, if you're you know, just focus on Sunday.
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  Speaker 7: You're gonna miss a lot.
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  Speaker 10: So trying to treat it, you know, like a normal
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  Speaker 10: game prep week, but also you know, enjoy the moments
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  Speaker 10: that make this week special. There's definitely, you know, a
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  Speaker 10: part of me inside of me and it's like, man,
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  Speaker 10: this this is a super Bowl. This is this is awesome.
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  Speaker 10: But at the same time, you know, trying to get ready.
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  Speaker 10: So it's it's kind of balancing that and I think
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  Speaker 10: the team has done a really good job giving us
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  Speaker 10: resources to to manage it effectively.
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  Speaker 3: Were you ever little though?
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  Speaker 2: Were?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely was?
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  Speaker 10: No, definitely not.
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  Speaker 7: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was a late bloomer.
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  Speaker 10: Late bloomer in uh in college is when I started
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  Speaker 10: putting on size.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, Drake known for its NFL talent that
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  Speaker 1: it's cranked out there at Drake Yeah, you're a Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: Illinois guy. He's another Illinois guy. See see the connection.
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  Speaker 1: You could probably tell the connection that he and I
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  Speaker 1: had from the jump. Eric Saubert is with us right
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  Speaker 1: here on the Chuck and Buck in the morning. Do
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  Speaker 1: you really regret that year in San Francisco? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it seem silly now that you were a forty
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  Speaker 1: nine er at one point?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I never regret any of the years.
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  Speaker 10: You know, maybe made some good memories on our team.
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  Speaker 10: One thing I will say, you know, regarding this this
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  Speaker 10: power station next to their building. Oh, I've never I've
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  Speaker 10: never missed I've never really missed time before.
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  Speaker 9: H in a season, and you know, I come from
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  Speaker 9: San Francisco.
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  Speaker 10: To Seattle and I'm missing six games this year.
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  Speaker 9: It's just, you know, it's it's a little interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a little interesting.
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  Speaker 1: More investigation needs to take place, there, no question about it.
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  Speaker 1: You were also a New England Patriot for a little while.
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  Speaker 1: What are your memories of being on the wrong side
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  Speaker 1: of this matchup?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 6: I was.
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  Speaker 10: I was traded there in twenty nineteen and it was just,
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  Speaker 10: you know, a whirlwind. Honestly, at that point, I was
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  Speaker 10: still kind of in my formative years as an NFL
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  Speaker 10: player and uh really just trying to stay afloat in
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  Speaker 10: the league.
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  Speaker 9: You know, also some some good memories there, you.
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  Speaker 10: Know, getting to you know, meet and play under Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 10: Tom Brady, Like it's pretty cool as a as a
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  Speaker 10: young player, but like you know, no ill will towards
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  Speaker 10: them for that experience. It's you know, all these all
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  Speaker 10: these stops I've had.
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  Speaker 9: Are you know places you can learn from?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, obviously you're getting in.
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  Speaker 4: That's one of the beauties of kind of jumping around
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  Speaker 4: as you get a whole bunch of people to learn
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  Speaker 4: from one guy that this you know is probably going
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  Speaker 4: to be you and the rest of the Seahawks last time, uh,
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  Speaker 4: getting to learn from his Klinton Kubiak. It seems like
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  Speaker 4: he may be getting a big opportunity at the end
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  Speaker 4: of this season. What is he meant to you personally
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  Speaker 4: and what he could learn from him?
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  Speaker 10: Man, he's been everything as as offensive coordinator, he's been, uh,
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  Speaker 10: you know, such a leader for us, and he speaks
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  Speaker 10: so much positivity and life.
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  Speaker 9: Into our unit.
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  Speaker 10: And on top of that, just a ton of gratitude.
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  Speaker 10: And you know, the gratitude is uh you know, it's reciprocal,
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  Speaker 10: It's goes both ways. You know, we're all so grateful
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  Speaker 10: for him and super happy for him and his opportunity
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  Speaker 10: to you know, he's on top of being a you know,
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  Speaker 10: a great offensive mind, you know, he's he's a great
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  Speaker 10: person and he deserves uh, you know, uh, the next thing,
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  Speaker 10: the next steps coming in.
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  Speaker 1: And give us the same kind of scouting report for
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  Speaker 1: your quarterback, Sam Darnold, your year with him this year,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's had to dispel a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: critics out there. Give us a Eric Sauburn's sixty second
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  Speaker 1: breakdown of Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 10: You know I've been I've been talking Sam up all
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  Speaker 10: weekend or yesterday or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Sam is the man.
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  Speaker 9: He's one of my closest friends on the team.
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  Speaker 10: It's the guy you love playing with. He's a leader,
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  Speaker 10: he's a you know, a good good person, someone you
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  Speaker 10: can talk to and you know kind of you know,
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  Speaker 10: just he's a he's a Seahawks, He's what we are.
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  Speaker 10: And uh, you know, on top of that, you know,
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  Speaker 10: a great player that's that's led us as far and
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  Speaker 10: you know he's our guy.
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  Speaker 1: All right, how about this scenario super Bowl sixty on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: Uh goes into overtime and we just do that little
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  Speaker 1: slippery thing that you and Sam did uh to close
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  Speaker 1: out the Rams that one.
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  Speaker 3: What do how about closing out of super Bowl that way?
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  Speaker 3: What do you say?
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  Speaker 10: And that would be uh, a cherry on top of
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  Speaker 10: amazed already amazing season. You know, it might get some
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  Speaker 10: of the the twelves you know fired up, you think
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  Speaker 10: they should run.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. True, that's a great point.
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  Speaker 9: We gotta be careful with our game winning play.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's a great point. You bring up.
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  Speaker 1: Shame on me, all right, man, Well, hey, have the
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  Speaker 1: time of your life and best of luck on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate a few minutes of your time this morning.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I appreciate it, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Saubert joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 1: in the mornings as he's getting ready for.
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  Speaker 3: The Super Bowl. Yeah, you gotta be careful.
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  Speaker 1: With those plate decisions if you're a Seahawk with the
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  Speaker 1: game on the line from the one yard line. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you got to make sure that, you know, let's we've
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  Speaker 1: thought of everything.
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  Speaker 3: Let's think of everything all right.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next here on the radio program, we do
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  Speaker 1: counted down the seconds to Super Bowl sixty. And I
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  Speaker 1: love this aspect of this week. It's where you get
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  Speaker 1: to see face to face guys you've been talking to
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  Speaker 1: all season long, and sometimes you throw them on the
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  Speaker 3: So not only do we have our QB one Hugh
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  Speaker 3: Mike Sando is with us. I'm Mike. Oh, it's great
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  Speaker 3: to be here. Old times, happy super Bowl, Old times
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  Speaker 3: you and Hugh. You mean, and I used to.
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  Speaker 6: Be in studio and with KGr in the late nineties.
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  Speaker 11: Back spen a minute, right, yeah, right, and then we'd
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  Speaker 6: Andy yep, Hugh, I think was technically still in the
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  Speaker 6: league at that time, right, you were still throwing it.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know about all that, but let's not get
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  Speaker 11: carried away football nerd him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's great to have you with us, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: let's just chop it up.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just talk a little Super Bowl football here and Mike,
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  Speaker 1: our first conversation with you so far. But this matchup,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, now you had a little time to digest it.
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  Speaker 3: Are we getting ready for classic Super Bowl? Here? You think? Probably?
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  Speaker 6: I think the you know the I don't think any
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  Speaker 6: one of these teams has been blown out a bunch
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  Speaker 6: and I think New England is a team that you
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  Speaker 6: know you when you go in to play them. You
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  Speaker 6: don't necessarily you're not odd by them, but they just
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  Speaker 6: seem to they seem you seem to think more highly
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  Speaker 6: of them after you play him than before that. You know,
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  Speaker 6: they're just sort of a tough out. So well, one
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  Speaker 6: variable to me is drinke May's health and the shoulder.
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  Speaker 6: I think we'll learn more as we go along. I
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  Speaker 6: think that was a real injury he had in the game,
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  Speaker 6: and so that could be something that over the course
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  Speaker 6: of the game could become a factor. I think if
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  Speaker 6: any team pulls away, it's probably Seattle, but I expect
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  Speaker 6: it to be a good game.
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  Speaker 3: You have been.
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  Speaker 11: Exploring about Mike Vrabels some of some of his uh
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  Speaker 11: I don't know, antics and if we can call them that,
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  Speaker 11: Like like we were talking off Ara, I thought that
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  Speaker 11: was very fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: Let's uh yeah, let's let's chat about that.
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  Speaker 6: So remember when Belichick was coaching the team, there was
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: always it was always like, Okay, what are they up
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  Speaker 6: to that we don't know about it? Ernie Adams these
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  Speaker 6: mysterious figures and even when I think he blew it
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  Speaker 6: in the super not calling timeouts against stand that turned
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  Speaker 6: into all the mystique of BELICHICKI he knew all along
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  Speaker 6: this was going to happen. So Rabel, you know, obviously
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  Speaker 6: comes from that, and he, as somebody who doesn't call
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  Speaker 6: the plays in the games, has a whole strategy that's
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  Speaker 6: ahead of the rest of the league in terms of
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  Speaker 6: practiced tactics within the rules, but kind of not really
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  Speaker 6: within the rules. So here's some things that they do
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  Speaker 6: better than anyone else before.
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  Speaker 11: He said, tell him about you when he got the
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  Speaker 11: Coach of the year. Okay, well this is very fast.
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  Speaker 6: Interesting. So when Mike Rabel won Coach of the Year
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: with Tennessee in twenty twenty one, he goes up to
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  Speaker 6: that NFL on her stage to accept and you only
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: have about fifteen seconds to thank people whatever.
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  Speaker 3: He thanked five people.
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  Speaker 6: He thanked the owner of the team, his wife, Jen,
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  Speaker 6: his two sons, and he would also like to thank Stretch.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like Stretch is that his roommate from college or something. Huh,
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  Speaker 6: stretches Willie McCovey. Stretches is John Striker, who's a six
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  Speaker 6: foot seven vice president of strategy, and he's been with
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  Speaker 6: Rabel for all seven years. And so these guys, if
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  Speaker 6: you remember when they played New England in the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 6: are in the playoffs. At the end of the Brady run,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: remember when they run, they ran like a minute off
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  Speaker 6: the game clock with weird tactics when they were trying
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  Speaker 6: to punt. I think the Patriots are trying to punt.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: They had to change a rule because they found this
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  Speaker 6: loophole where you could kind of keep spamming this penalty
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  Speaker 6: or something, and the clock a whole minute went away,
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  Speaker 6: and they were like, this isn't the spirit right of
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  Speaker 6: the rules. So that's what he's all about. So fourth
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: and one, they have a great way of sort of
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: kind of subtly moving their defensive linemen to get you
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: to false start. So they lead the league in false
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: starts drawn on fourth and one, But not just all
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: the time. It's always like with the game on the line,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: time is when you do this, okay. And then the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: other one that won on the game against Denver is
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: the deliberately super slow substitution on defense. So the play
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: clock runs down. So if you go back to that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: play where still him through the pick with fifteen seconds
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: on the play clock, Denver had twelve guys in the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: huddle on the field and their eleventh guy goes out.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: That's kind of playing games with the defense. We don't
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: know what our personnel is. So a tight end comes off.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: The Patriots wait until that tight end gets all the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: way to the sideline before they substitute, right, So it's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: fifteen seconds on the play clock. Then Vrabel sends three big, lumbering,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: huge guys. They're jogging super slow on there. One of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: them turns back when he gets to the numbers on
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: the field, painted numbers. By the time they get out there,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: there's nine seconds in the play clock. Now the other
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: guy's got to run off, and they jog off, and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: the whole time, the Empire's standing there with his hand
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: on the balls and you can't snap it. You got
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: to let him substitute, right, Yeah, So he takes his
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: hand off the ball at five seconds. But now the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: umpire has to get to the offensive backfield. Remember they
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: moved where the empire is, so where does he go.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: He runs between the quarterback and the tailback who were
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: in the shotguns. So that's even more time where Stidham
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: can't practically snap the ball. By the time he snaps
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: the ball, he doesn't even notice that the corner moved
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: and he throws an interception. And so those are the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: little types of things. It's like, it's within there's gamesmanship
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: going on there. And so when you're in these really
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: close games, you know, one or two things like that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: could swing the game. And I think that that it's
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: not enough to make you good if you're not good,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: but if you're already a good team, those little margins
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: like that, when they're super well practiced, can give you
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: an edge, and they do it. A lot of teams
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: try it, but I think they're just more well well
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: executed on it.
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  Speaker 11: Do you think that Mike McDonald and the staff is
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 11: aware that vrabel is seeking these, you know, well out
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 11: of reaches.
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  Speaker 6: I wrote about it three years ago and all the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: people in the game management world know about it. So everyone,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: like the Seahawks have Ryan Aires as they're a game
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: management guy. Remember he got a game ball after the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: Indie game for reminding McDonald to call defensive timeouts before
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: the Colts were in field goal range. We were talking
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: about that too. You thought that was a no brainer,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: but it's really not in the league for until you
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: get closer to field goal range. Do you want to
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: when you're leading and and the other team's getting down
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: has the ball, you kind of want the time to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: run out on them until they get close enough that
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: you think they're going to for sure make a field goal.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: Then you want time for your offense.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: So they're very aware of all of those things, and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: it'll be an interesting meeting with the officials on the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: field ninety minutes before the game. That's when the coaches
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: kind of go down there and talk to the officials
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: and they say, hey, by the way, watch out. These
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: guys do this all the time.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: That happens before the game, and you go and talk
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: to those officials, and they scout all these officials in
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: the game. They know which umpire calls the most of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: this or that you know, and they got to be
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: prepared for all of that.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 11: Is there anybody that you've encountered through the years, be
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: it a coach or an owner or whatever, who just says,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 11: you know what, there may be an opportunity to exploit
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 11: the rules, but that's not the spirit. I don't like
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: the integrity of it. I don't want to be a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 11: part of that. Have you ever heard anybody talk like that.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: Well, I think that that would remind me of like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, John Shula, but there is somebody
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: Don Shula was like really against Belichick when he got
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: the Spagy thing member, he was taking a shot at them.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: But there is somebody there is, Yes, there is somebody
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: that may be Shula, but there are some coaches that
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: Joe Gibbs, Joe Gibbs I'm trying to think of. I
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: believe that Joe Gibbs would completely reject that.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, all right, yeah, Now what do you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: think you I mean that this coaching matchup in terms
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: of knocking it out of the park, I mean Seahawks
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Patriots most recent head coaching hires, it couldn't look like
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: more of it. Not a home run, a grand slam
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: from both of them. Both defensive minded, you know, both
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: seemingly tough as nails, both very they went over every
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: locker room that they seem to be with. What what's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: your favorite part about this coaching matchup here? Well, I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: think that there there's a little bit of a difference.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: I think vrabel In similar to to uh to Belichick.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: You know, he's the guy when you watch the tape.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 11: They they look they look like Belichick type defenses, and
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 11: and they really physic being physical. You know, everybody wants
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 11: you to be physical. But then you say, okay, well
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 11: are you losing any athleticism? You know, but if you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 11: really want to be physical, you're willing to lose some athleticism.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 11: And I think they have that some of that, like
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 11: on the edges and and what have you, Like you're
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 11: gonna you're gonna have to you know, smart and physical
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 11: is more important than really twitchy fast in the Belichick era.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: And so for sure, right, I mean, do you see
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: that Mike with.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: Their defensive end types, you know, the type of guys
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: yet and sometimes they'll just say, well, he's not really
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: you know, he's not Miles Garrett.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 11: Anyways, let's just have him chip you know, he'll hit
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 11: the back on the way out or if a tight
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 11: end on the way out, or even even it wouldn't
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 11: shock me if there was a play in the game
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 11: where on those occasions where Jackson Smith and Jigbow are
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 11: in those close formations, they might have an end just
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 11: you know, give a flip or give an elbow to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 11: JSN and be willing to not rest the passer, you know,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 11: until later.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: Absolutely. I think that one of the interesting things about
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: the coaching matchup or these hires is I see, typically
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: these two organizations have been big swing guys on the coaches,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: you know, to where they'd had Bill Parcells before. In
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: New England, they kind of did ah when they hired
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: Droud Mail. It's kind of like when Seattle had Jim
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: Mora for a year. They just it was a year
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: and then the owner just wants to go big and
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: so you bring in the big name Vaybel. What's interesting
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: for Seattle is that Mike McDonald really wasn't that. I mean,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: he is a he's a big he was a big
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: name in the hiring cycle, but he wasn't somebody who
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: had a track record before, right whereas we'd gone gone
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: from Pete Carroll, Mike Holmgren. I mean, those guys were
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: really Paul Allen going out there and getting the guys
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: who've already been kind of vetted. Yeah, there's not a
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: lot of there's not a lot of research that does
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: goes into hiring Holmegren. Right, Yeah, he's a ten year
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: coach who's great. So I think of that as an
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: interesting component of us. That is probably a little bit
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: more of John Schneider's fingerprints on this. Uh you know,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: you really finding a guy that he thinks he can
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: connect with as opposed to the I think John Sanders
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: a really good evaluator of people, and that is that
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: takes skill to do on your first on the coach
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: who hasn't been a coach before, you know what, you
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: know what I mean.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guy who's been a coach. That's why Jamal
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Adams was a peat decision.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: Well they they yeah, they swung on some of those though,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: but yes, the coach is involved in a lot of that.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: But but John would admit to they got a little
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: bit away from some of their fundamentals.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 11: Is there some truth to the idea of My sense
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 11: is that they really they were like, Okay, we got
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 11: Ben Johnson or Mike McDonald. We here, we got the
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 11: offensive genius to match with Shanahan and McVeigh to elevate
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 11: to that level on the offensive side, or we've got
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 11: Mike McDonald to be you know, the counter to that,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 11: you know, the equal brilliance.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: And and in a way it kind of reminds me.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 11: Of uh, you know, when Kevin Durant got drafted like
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 11: it was the It was the Blazers who had to
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 11: worry about, Okay, do we want Odin or or uh
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 11: and and and so so seattle'sit in there at the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 11: number two and it's like sweet, we you know, it's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 11: like whoever you didn't take? And then and then of
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 11: course you know, uh, history shows Durant was the much
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 11: better choice.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: But but my point in saying that is Seattle didn't.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 11: I don't think Seattle had an opportunity for Ben Johnson
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 11: can Ben Johnson wanted to stay at Detroit, and so
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 11: of the guys they wanted it was, it was McDonald.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Now it's worked out spectacularly, but you know, but I
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: think I.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: Think that McDonald made so much sense for Seattle for
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: a couple of reasons. One, I think there was a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: weariness with Pete's same old defense that didn't wasn't keeping
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: up with McVeigh and and Shanahan. I think they wanted
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: somebody to be able to combat that. And yeah, you'd
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: like to have McVay or shannon yourself to put pressure
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: on them. But I think I think there was a
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: real itch here in Seattle of watching loving what Pete
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: did for the whole program, but wishing they could have
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: a few more gears on defense. You got to you
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: got to get with the times. I mean, just a
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: little bit more uh uh scheme and an individual opponent
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: matchup and being just kindable. Yeah, have somebody who you
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: feel like when you go into play and game plan
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: McVeigh or game plan Shanahan that you're guys going to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: have some ideas that ye is going to match with
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: those guys.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 11: Mike Sannon with us, Mike, we love your your quarterback tiers.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 11: You put a lot a lot of work into it.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 11: You're talking to for those who don't know GM, GMS coaches, assistant.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Coaches, what have you?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, fifty coaches and fifty coaches.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 11: How you've been doing this long enough you can kind
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 11: of anticipate how Sam Darnold is going to be perceived
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 11: next this this summer.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: When you do the tiers, give it, give it.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: So yeah, so you know, so the way this the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: way this works. If your top tier you're carrying it
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: every week. So that's my home.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: How many cheers are there?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: There's there's effectively four or five would be not a starter,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: you know, So really your top tier is the elite
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: of the elite. The second tier is guys you can
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: do that some of the time, but not as consistently.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: I think if how many guys are in the top
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: tiers one.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: Tier one could be four to seven, just depending on
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: the era, like when Breeze and Bredi were playing with more.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: Tier two is gonna be maybe ten seven, eight nine,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: ten guys maybe, And so that Tier two is gonna
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: over the years would have had a lot of Matt
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: Ryan's and Romos and Dak Prescott's and there they're guys
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: that are really good quarterbacks, but they're notch below those
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: top guys. And then tier three is more like, uh, hey,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: you're probably gonna get paid. We think we can win
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: with you, but I think we would question if you
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: had a veteran Tier three where you could win it
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: all without having the Ravens two thousand defense. So over
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: the years, that would be like a Dalton, Andy Dalton
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: or or you know, Kirk Cousins kind of climbed a
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: little bit of that world of tiny bit but those
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: are the types of guys that you know, you don't
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: want to put on their shoulders too much. And then
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: Tier four is either you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick career back up,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: maybe starts half the season or hey, not enough information?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Where was Donald? And where do you expect?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: So Donald bottomed out in Tier four when he was
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: kind of a cast off, you know, and they're going
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: into this year, going to this year, he was in
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: three and people people kind of thought, Okay, let's see
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: it again. But before he goes to two, and I
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: think they saw it again, and he'll go to Tier
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: two and he'll be in that. I think if you
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: have taught Tier one or two, you feel like you
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: can go to the super Bowl with your guy. And
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: they've done that, so I think he'll be there and
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: may we'll go there too.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: What may well be one yet I don't think so.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: The way the tiers work with the coaches and executives
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: is they don't just overreact off of one year. They
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: kind of Okay, that was nice, Now let's see it
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: again when everyone's game planning for you and all of that.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: So it took and it can take some of those
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: guys a longer time.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 11: So okay, so get more detailed with us. If you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 11: had to pin the number on Sam Donald, I know
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 11: you say, you say, you say he's gonna be a
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 11: tier two. Yeah, but you know that's somewhere between six
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 11: and ten or eleven.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: So give us an exact number where you.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: Think I would think he could get near that top
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: ten range. So like usually you're the top ten, but
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: not in it. Maybe right around there, Dak Prescott's been
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: like tenth. Does he go to that level or is
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: Dak just more established in that world? And that's possible. Uh,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: it's possible that he would get a lot of two's,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: maybe low two. Maybe he's twelve, Maybe he's one, Mike maybe,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: but maybe maybe he's MVP the Super Bowl and plays
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: the same game last week and then there's a difference
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: seven or eight. Yeah, oh yeah, then he'll really go.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: I think people. I think there's a lot of people
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: with Sam Donald who liked him coming out, you know,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: and I think they'll get right back on seeing them
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: play like this.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Mike Sando, Hugh Millan with us U. Yeah, we're putting
• 1:19:50
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• 1:19:54
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• 1:19:58
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• 1:20:00
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  Speaker 4: Welcome everyone, Yeah, everyone, welcome in my courtroom. We will
• 1:20:48
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  Speaker 4: the end of this week. You have declared, I have
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  Speaker 3: Gabble gavel, gavel, gavel. I don't have my gavel.
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  Speaker 1: He will weigh in and whatever he says goes, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how Hugh handles that. All right, So here
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  Speaker 1: you go. First, one for you both to discuss. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to argue. If you agree, you agree whatever,
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  Speaker 1: just discuss openly and then the judge will take it
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  Speaker 1: from there.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, this is going to be a low scoring super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we talked about the head coaches.
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  Speaker 6: You're basically taking the under.
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  Speaker 11: You're saying under super Bowl over under forty five and
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  Speaker 11: a half now, isn't it forty six?
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  Speaker 3: I think forty and a half yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Significantly under low scoring, not like I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: just do.
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  Speaker 3: You asked the question and then you say the opinion first, Well,
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  Speaker 3: no kind of court.
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  Speaker 1: Room trying trying to order in the court or in
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  Speaker 1: the court trying to find what low scoring is. Not
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  Speaker 1: just like butted up against the under, but like it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be defensive battle here.
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  Speaker 3: Go for it here.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this isn't exactly the most they're a guest
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  Speaker 6: of honor. No, I don't think it'll be unusually low scoring.
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  Speaker 6: I think that there will be some fireworks in the game.
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  Speaker 6: I think we'll see potential big play on special teams
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  Speaker 6: maybe from Seattle that steals the possession for them, gets
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  Speaker 6: them out a little bit. Uh. And I think that
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  Speaker 6: they will Sanni will score closer to thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Points than twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, that is not low scoring to me. So
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna this has a chance to be muddied up.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's you look at the improvement of the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots defense.
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  Speaker 3: Your honner. Is that pejorative permitted in the courtroom?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, No, I see I see kind of things,
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  Speaker 11: you know, maybe some a quarter quarter and a half
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  Speaker 11: where Seattle the offensive lines having a little trouble with
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  Speaker 11: some of the pressures. And so I like the forty
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  Speaker 11: five under on the forty five and a half.
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  Speaker 6: So Seattle in their last two games scored forty one
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  Speaker 6: and thirty one, right, and then before that they had
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  Speaker 6: a low scoring game with the forty Niners that should
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  Speaker 6: have been thirty. I mean, I don't know how they
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  Speaker 6: didn't score thirty. They got twenty seven on Carolina, thirty
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  Speaker 6: eight on the Rams. You know, thirty seven Atlanta. They
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  Speaker 6: score a lot of points.
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  Speaker 11: Who's a better defense between Yeah, those teams you just said, No,
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  Speaker 11: of the of the teams you just said, Ramsdy nine Ers, Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: Who has the best defense? Yeah, I mean probably right now?
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  Speaker 3: The Patriots do.
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  Speaker 6: Right now. The Patriots been on a great run of
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  Speaker 6: really good defense. In fact, one of their best defensive
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  Speaker 6: runs statistically. I think it's their best one since the
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  Speaker 6: twenty nineteen season, when they again played a bunch of
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  Speaker 6: easy teams. Yeah, that's part of having great defense. I
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  Speaker 6: think Seattle's been able to do this against some good teams.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I like where Seattle's at. I think that it's a
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  Speaker 6: long game out there. It's a long game out there.
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  Speaker 4: Gabble, gabble, gabbl Just decide this is a rough one,
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  Speaker 4: because I think both of you actually have a point.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be muddied up. I think there's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be multiple punts. There's gonna be defensive minds and
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: schemes are going to turn you know, not allow the
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  Speaker 4: other team to move the chains. But I think there's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: gonna be explosive plays, probably more explosive place for the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna end up being low scoring.
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  Speaker 4: If low scoring is being brought up as significantly below
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  Speaker 4: what the over undrisk.
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  Speaker 6: Like, yeah, yeah, I think that the You know, when
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  Speaker 6: you look at New England, they're playing in that snowstorm,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: you got to throw that aside. You know, you're you're
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: deliberately playing a slow game, not even trying to take
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  Speaker 6: a risk.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be that type of
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  Speaker 6: a game for them.
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  Speaker 3: But look in this.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna be a snowstorm this week, and they've allowed twenty
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: six points in three playoff games. You know, So now
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  Speaker 6: I think this says a lot about the Chargers and
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: the Texans. Yeah, well in the weather and then for
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: in the weather, So don't think they did them. Yeah,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: that type of a game. And you look at them
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  Speaker 6: late down the year, they're playing Miami, they're playing the Jets.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Buffalo got thirty five of them on them
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  Speaker 6: in week four Week fifteen. You know, Baltimore got twenty
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  Speaker 6: four on them in week sixteen. I think when you
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  Speaker 6: look at some of those better teams they've played, there's
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  Speaker 6: just a lot of Giants and Bengals and Jets on
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: their schedule, you know, and some of those better teams scored,
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  Speaker 6: and I think Sale is the best team they probably played.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, It sounds like the old judge was kind
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  Speaker 1: of a little wishy washy with that.
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  Speaker 4: You wash your mouths my courtroommost be a little more
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: definitive with is really not one or the other?
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  Speaker 3: I ruled that they're both correct and both incorrect. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what's the next one? All right, next one?
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  Speaker 1: The Seahawks are set up better to go on a
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  Speaker 1: dynastic run with this team than they were in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 11: Hugh, I will say, yes, I agree with that. I
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  Speaker 11: think at twenty fifteen there was I think that that
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 11: team was being splintered by what it transpired with the
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  Speaker 11: goal line.
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  Speaker 3: I thought there was I think there were some leadership
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: issues in there.
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  Speaker 11: I think that the cover three the bait just dropped
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 11: Cover three was was you know, there was a lot
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 11: of teams that were doing it, and the Ripleys match
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 11: portions of the of the cover three and so proliferating
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 11: around the league, and so teams were practicing against it more,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 11: playing against it more. This Seattle is right now the
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 11: second youngest team in the NFL. They've got a twenty
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 11: eight year old quarterback under contract with right now the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 11: eighteenth highest contract that's going to probably drop on the
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 11: rankings in the next year or two. And they've got
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 11: I believe, seventy seven million under the cap. So I
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 11: think all those factors, and I think in McDonald they
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 11: have a guy that I just think is brighter. I
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 11: think he has more intellectual horsepower than Pete Carroll. So
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 11: if he's the defensive mastermind, I like the courtse that
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 11: he can navigate the adjustments over the next three four
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 11: to five years.
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  Speaker 6: Mike, So I like that because we know that the
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: twenty fifteen team didn't do that. Yeah, that makes easier.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: But I will say this, don't take ownership for granted,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: because they are going to have a new owner. And
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: they had great ownership initially with the Nordstrom family, and
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: they sold the team to a guy by the name
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: of Ken Barring, and it was lean ears with the owner.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: The owner can make it, the owner can dealiel everything.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: So I think we know whether we agree that the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: story should be coming out now or it's a planet store,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: you know, all these things that people are suspicious about, it's happening,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: and they're gonna sell the team, probably in the next
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: couple of years, I would say, for sure.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: So who do you get to buy the team?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: And are they gonna wake up after a tough loss
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: and be an unstable owner? I think we've the Paul
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: Allen era has been taken for granted. I remember I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: was covering the team before they got him, and when
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: they got him, they're suddenly hiring Mike Holmgren. I remember
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: going into I don't know, maybe the old PR offices
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: at the Seax at the time, and I was like, Wow,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: this is really happening. The Seahawks are getting Mike Holmgren,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: and it just seemed impossible that the Seahawks, for what
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: they had been for ten years, could do that. And
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: now it's like, oh, yeah, they get Pete Carroll. They
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: we take for granted. How good their are their ownerships?
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  Speaker 11: Okay, so agreed, So yes, so the Alans have been great?
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  Speaker 11: What is the probability any thing other than zero one
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 11: hundred is acceptable? What's the probability that they hire somebody
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 11: that and John Snyder doesn't want to work for that owner,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 11: because if John Snyder is running the football operation, isn't
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 11: aren't most of the bases covers?
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: I think most of the bases are covered. So what
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: they have really good leadership. You just don't know who's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: gonna buy the team, and hopefully the league does a
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: great job of vetting, but the dollar speaks in the end,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: and we've seen the worst case scenario is what happened
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: to the then Redskins. You know, when they had pretty
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: good ownership, They're going to Super Bowls with Joe Gibbs
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: and you're in nineteen ninety one, they had one of
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 6: the best teams in the history of the league, and
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: then pretty by the end of the decade. Like I
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: believe they I believe Nord Turner was the coach when
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: they when they when they changed it, he had like
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: one winning season and they didn't do anything for a
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: long time and it became a toxic thing. That's unlikely
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: you're gonna get a Snyder type of an owner, But
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: you're in a division with I think the Rams ownership's good.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: I think the forty nine ers ownership's good. So I
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  Speaker 6: would just say I agree with you. They're in better
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: shape to have a sustained dynasty than the other one
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: one is. But that's a point that needs to be
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: raised that no one's going to think about.
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  Speaker 11: But you think Schnyder just likely to likely to remain
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 11: the GM, right, he definitely is.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you're a fool if you're a new owner
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: and you come in and you change him.
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  Speaker 11: But they could be that Schnyder says, I don't want
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 11: to work for this guy anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's not how you know.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 11: The Husky's made a horrible decision with Troy dan It
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 11: and that that disrupted a lot of if.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: You have an impulsive owner. Weird stuff happened, and we
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: see these teams that are kind of but Tepper.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Is already locked in at Carolina. We don't have to worry, right, But.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: But they got that's a great example of what he
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: was talking about. Though. Tepper was a loose cannon all
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 6: all forever, and now he's not like you don't ever
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: hear about Tepper because they got some guys in the
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: front office to kind of manage up right. They they
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: Dan Morgan's there. They hired a guy from Kansas City
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: who's kind of an executive cap background, and I think
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: those guys have calmed him down. And so Seattle has
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: great leadership right now. But uh, that is a it's
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: just a consider if in ten years we're talking about
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: call this owners made a couple of weird moves here.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: And Chuck asked, twenty fifteen.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Remember now we were going back to twenty thirteen, maybe
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: that's even better.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: But I'm taking the question that face value.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 11: They had led the NFL in fewest points allowed in
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 11: twenty twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. So that was the last
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 11: of a four year run, which, by the way, the
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 11: only four year run in the Super Bowl era where.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: A team did that.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 11: Not the Steelers, the steel Curtain, not it Doomsay Defense,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 11: nobody else. But you knew it couldn't last forever, right,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 11: And so yeah, it felt like that was kind of
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 11: more closer to the end.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like this feel feels like it's closer to
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: the beginning.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm agree, Younger, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Gavel, Gavel, Gavel, I mean, I think you make a
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: good point about the ownership, and you have to recognize
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: that could change things.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Hopefully it doesn't.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: So putting that aside that if a normal owner comes in,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: they don't mess with the football operations, you are at
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: the beginning of something. You are at the beginning of
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: something that if you have to say dynasty, Okay, what
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: are we measuring? Amount of super Bowls? One amount of
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: super Bowl's gone to I am with you one hundred
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: percent on I do think that there is there's the
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: new sheriff in town. Mike McDonald has a has his
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: finger on the heartbeat of the Seattle Seahawks football players,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks city. He understands how to work with
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: today's athletes more than even a Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll's great,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: but we've all been around that old uncle. That's really fun.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: And after about twenty minutes of hanging out with Uncle Richard.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: You're like, all right in the backyard, Yeah, the pull
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: your finger joke got old Uncle Richard, you know what
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: So I think that there's a talking about I know
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: it's not a frog, uncle.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a barking tree spider. So funny.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: The fifteenth time, Oh now, I think I think you
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: are on the beginning of I mean, you've got to
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 6: He said, got kiss for you.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: Hear that, you know, after the heart.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: Kiss for you.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: I forgot about.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: That, stealing that on my kids would get that one
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: on Friday kid's wife.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had that very kiss for you. Period just
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: came out. Col Man. We just we're gonna dig until
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: we treasure.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: You know, in the courtroom, you're forced to be honest,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: you know, right, So all right, well, thank you boy.
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  Speaker 3: That was fun.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, you your honor, Mike Sando and the old judge
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