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Anthony Cumia | Sunday Night's WABC Radio Voice Joins the Morning Show Fold · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: To add to the mix, the best show on Sunday night,
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  Speaker 1: the best show maybe on radio, is Anthony Koumian. He
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  Speaker 1: joins us. Good morning, Anthony.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, gentlemen? This is very early for me.
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  Speaker 1: I bet it is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm usually still asleep at this hour, but... Great to
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  Speaker 3: be here. How are you guys doing this morning?
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  Speaker 4: We're in the studio, but we're still asleep.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to stay awake. What are you doing up
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  Speaker 1: so late? Why are you staying up so late?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just always up late. Always been a night owl.
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  Speaker 3: It gives me time to think without all the mucky
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  Speaker 3: muck going on in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. Nighttime, kind of dark.
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  Speaker 4: You texted me at midnight. I was still up. Oh, yeah, see?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you probably do more productive and constructive things. I do.
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  Speaker 3: Running businesses, making sure the station's running well, and I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: pretty much wasting time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm listening.
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  Speaker 5: I'm listening to the night, the night guys at night
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  Speaker 5: to make sure they keep me up. Cause the only
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  Speaker 5: way you get fired at night by not keeping me
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  Speaker 5: up by making, making me so bored that I fall asleep.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, geez. That's good to know. Sunday night.
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  Speaker 4: Don't make me fall asleep. Oh no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to write out of the box. Cause
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  Speaker 1: I know you worked down the hall from Howard Stern
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  Speaker 1: when you were at us all those years ago. And,
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  Speaker 1: What a crazy summer it's been for all the news
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  Speaker 1: around Howard. What do you make of all the layoffs,
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  Speaker 1: him doing just one show a week? Now he's got
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  Speaker 1: this deal with HBO where they're going to broadcast some
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  Speaker 1: of his radio show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, good for him, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: We were obviously never friends over the course of our
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  Speaker 3: careers together. We knocked heads a lot during the old
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  Speaker 3: FM radio days when he was at KROQ and we
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  Speaker 3: were at NBC. Or WNEW, sorry, NBC. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he got older. Look, you got to change your act
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. I mean, if he was still throwing
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  Speaker 3: bologna slices on naked women in his studio at 72
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  Speaker 3: years old. It could be an issue. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: people would really... It's called creepy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'd still watch it. You'd still watch that?
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  Speaker 2: Is that the Howard we all watch?
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  Speaker 6: I would still listen and watch.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, going down to one day a week and...
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  Speaker 3: Now he's got this HBO deal. He fired a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like the natural course.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is, he made his career saying a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things about other radio people, especially Don Imus over
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  Speaker 3: the course of the years. And I think what he's
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  Speaker 3: become now is way worse than Don Imus was as
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  Speaker 3: far as Howard, when he used to call him old
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  Speaker 3: and out of touch and irrelevant. And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the road that Howard's been on for for
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  Speaker 3: quite a few years lately. But look, he's still doing
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  Speaker 3: it locked in his house somewhere. He came out the
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  Speaker 3: other day. It was like Groundhog Day. Everyone was taking
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  Speaker 3: pictures of him. A Bigfoot sighting.
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  Speaker 2: He looked terrible, by the way. He did. He looked
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  Speaker 2: like a turtle without his shell on.
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  Speaker 6: I guess like some members of our Congress, sometimes it's
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  Speaker 6: time just to hang up the shoes, right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, if only. I was surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Like, why did Beth let him out of the house
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  Speaker 1: looking so, I mean, he was wearing these glasses that
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  Speaker 1: were kind of ill-fitting. I don't know if he has
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  Speaker 1: a wig, but his hair looked kind of strange. And
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  Speaker 1: he just looked, he looked old. He looked, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he looked older than he actually is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that's a wig either. Over
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  Speaker 3: the course of the years, a lot of people have
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  Speaker 3: speculated if he's wearing a wig, it kind of looks
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  Speaker 3: like one, but why would you go out with that
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  Speaker 3: wig on? It looks like a female impersonator from Vegas
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  Speaker 3: back in the 60s.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking he looked like his mom, actually, which
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  Speaker 1: would make sense.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know Michael wanted to ask you about
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  Speaker 1: more serious stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought we were going to do a serious
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  Speaker 6: show here, you know, not talking necessarily about Howard. I
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  Speaker 6: wanted to ask you your opinion on somebody who I
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  Speaker 6: actually had gotten to know over the years, Eric Swalwell.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And I wanted to get your take on it because, look,
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  Speaker 6: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he did.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely things that were wrong. But the thing that I'm
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  Speaker 6: most curious is he received funds from a Chinese spy.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm wondering how come it took so long before
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  Speaker 6: this information finally came out. And now that it's out,
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  Speaker 6: how come Republicans aren't even really capitalizing on it?
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  Speaker 3: I think they already look at him as a downed
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  Speaker 3: soldier for the left, for the Democrats. I'm amazed it
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  Speaker 3: took the alleged sexual misconduct to drive him out instead of, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: being with a Chinese spy. There's proof that he took
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  Speaker 3: money from China.
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  Speaker 2: And, like.
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  Speaker 3: Al Capone getting caught on tax evasion. None of that
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  Speaker 3: was relevant. Everybody said, well, nothing really happened. And it
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  Speaker 3: took some sexual allegations, which in this country seems to
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  Speaker 3: be the thing that gets people thrown out of office
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  Speaker 3: or fired from jobs and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: But I personally just don't appreciate the hypocrisy with him.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us more.
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  Speaker 3: Over the course of the years... He has jumped on
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  Speaker 3: that bandwagon with Trump and the alleged sexual misconduct and
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  Speaker 3: the lawfare that has been put against President Trump over
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  Speaker 3: the course of the years.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been the.
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  Speaker 3: Cheerleader, you know, right up there, facing the camera, spreading
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  Speaker 3: all those vicious lies about Trump.
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  Speaker 2: And then when it hits him... He's got excuses.
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  Speaker 3: The Democrats kind of rallied around him a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's been thrown to the wayside, though, for
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  Speaker 3: the most part. I mean, wasn't he a contender for 2028?
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And now he's a footnote in political history. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he's got any type of career left. What do
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  Speaker 3: you think about him?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think he's, in his mind, maybe thinking that
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  Speaker 6: there is a possibility that of a comeback. I don't
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  Speaker 6: see it either. But I'm with you on that as
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  Speaker 6: it relates to the hypocrisy. You know, I had President
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  Speaker 6: Trump on my show, When You Know You Know.
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  Speaker 2: The other day.
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  Speaker 6: And one of the things that he talked about is
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  Speaker 6: there's really two people that have had lawfare and the
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  Speaker 6: weaponization of Department of Justice thrown against them like never
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  Speaker 6: ever before seen in U.S. history. Him, of course, referring
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  Speaker 6: to both himself and me. And I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 6: I'm with you on that on the hypocrisy part. First
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  Speaker 6: of all, the guy had to have known that this
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  Speaker 6: Christine Fang, who was known as Fang Fang. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: anybody by the name of Fang Fang that sends you money,
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  Speaker 6: you really got to think twice, twice, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 6: to me, it doesn't make any sense at all. And
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  Speaker 6: then they're funneling money to your campaign. And you think
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  Speaker 6: you're not going to get caught. And then you're having
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  Speaker 6: all of these sexual relationships. And yet you're standing in
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  Speaker 6: front of the American people. During an impeachment trial, talking
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  Speaker 6: about how the person, the defendant in that case, is guilty.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to imagine that somebody can be so, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, what's the word, feckless in their thought process,
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  Speaker 6: that they can go ahead, talk to somebody else, knowing
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  Speaker 6: that they did worse, that they have done what they
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  Speaker 6: are accusing the other person of. I just find it,
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  Speaker 6: as you do, hypocrisy to the max.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, though, Michael? You look at.
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  Speaker 3: what has transpired over the course of the years with
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  Speaker 3: especially the Democrats. I hate to try to be so
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  Speaker 3: or to be so so partisan here, but especially with
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  Speaker 3: the Democrats. If you're someone like Swalwell and you your
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  Speaker 3: whole career, you've spent watching people getting away with everything.
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  Speaker 3: What stops you? And he's just one of many that
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  Speaker 3: are guilty of things. They fraud all types of misconduct.
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  Speaker 3: And nothing happens. We see these congressional hearings that pop
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  Speaker 3: up every so often.
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  Speaker 2: And we love it. We love the battle. Oh, he
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  Speaker 2: nailed him. Oh, boy, that guy's in trouble. And nothing
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  Speaker 2: comes of it.
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  Speaker 3: So why wouldn't you, as a politician, a young guy,
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  Speaker 3: go out there and reap the benefits of political office,
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  Speaker 3: even if you're at the very least skirting politics? some
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  Speaker 3: of the rules and as far as lawfare goes uh
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  Speaker 3: you see what's been happening with um who's that leticia
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  Speaker 3: james yep and uh the fact that they're looking into
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  Speaker 3: the cases that she brought against donald trump in new
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  Speaker 3: york and uh that it all turns out to be
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  Speaker 3: crap look it's all bs.
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  Speaker 6: Look anthony you know i was the key witness subpoenaed
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  Speaker 6: in that case to testify And one of the things
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  Speaker 6: that I had said from the very, very inception, as
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  Speaker 6: a subpoenaed witness, I will come there and I will speak.
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  Speaker 6: And they had all the documentation. They also had all
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  Speaker 6: of the corroborating testimony that they needed. The real question
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  Speaker 6: here was whether or not that case should have been
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  Speaker 6: brought in the first place, especially by an individual whose
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  Speaker 6: campaign platform was was designed within which to go after
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  Speaker 6: and to target one individual. And I don't care that
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  Speaker 6: that individual is Donald Trump, whether you like the guy
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  Speaker 6: or you hate the guy, completely irrelevant. No politician, especially
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  Speaker 6: not a DA or an attorney general, should ever go
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  Speaker 6: ahead and make their campaign platform about targeting a U.S. citizen,
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  Speaker 6: a civilian, or somebody who has political aspiration.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at her campaign platform. And it
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  Speaker 3: was based on, don't worry, we'll find a crime. And
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  Speaker 3: that is not the job of Letitia James to get
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  Speaker 3: out there and say, oh, you don't like this guy? Well,
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  Speaker 3: we'll stick something on them. And again, you have so
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  Speaker 3: many people in politics, DAs, judges that are ready, willing
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  Speaker 3: and able to put on their activist hat and go
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  Speaker 3: after people. They say that both sides do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: I think we've seen a lot more justice come out
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  Speaker 3: of judges that were appointed by Republicans and by Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Than we have.
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  Speaker 3: Judges that Soros paid for and that these Democrats who
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  Speaker 3: we've seen. They don't like the Constitution when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to people that they disagree with.
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  Speaker 6: But Anthony, even if they do, even if they do
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  Speaker 6: have it on both sides of the aisle, I take
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  Speaker 6: that as you do, with a grain of salt. I'm
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  Speaker 6: specifically talking about President Trump. When I turned around and
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  Speaker 6: I wrote that I felt compelled and pressured, I was subpoenaed.
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  Speaker 6: The left went absolutely batshit crazy. They went nuts beyond nuts.
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  Speaker 6: They didn't know what to do. I became canceled. They
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  Speaker 6: started attacking me left and right. I still get attacked
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  Speaker 6: every single day. The fact that you and I put
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  Speaker 6: out that little clip about the two of us going
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  Speaker 6: to be on the air together today and so on.
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  Speaker 6: If I show you the hate mail that I got,
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  Speaker 6: for what reason? Because I'm on radio, thanks to John
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  Speaker 6: Katsimatidis and WABC, that I'm speaking truth, that the truth
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  Speaker 6: doesn't comport to what they want it to be. The
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  Speaker 6: fact that I felt that I have emotions, that this
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  Speaker 6: is something that they find so atrocious that they what?
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  Speaker 6: That they need to change. hit me with every four-letter
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  Speaker 6: word that they can possibly muster in a 250-character text?
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  Speaker 2: Michael, Michael, Michael, welcome to radio. This is adorable.
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  Speaker 4: I love listening to this.
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  Speaker 2: Adorable. You know what, Anthony?
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  Speaker 6: I really don't like this.
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  Speaker 4: Adorable.
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  Speaker 6: There's nothing adorable.
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  Speaker 2: This has been my entire life on the air. This
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  Speaker 2: is what it means.
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  Speaker 6: But I understand why people don't like radio hosts.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations. It means, it means you're popular.
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  Speaker 6: My, I understand why people don't like you.
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  Speaker 3: Me.
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  Speaker 2: I am adorable.
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  Speaker 1: Do you read that nonsense anymore? Just stop reading all that.
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  Speaker 3: There are some things I read, you know, I'm active
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  Speaker 3: on social media platforms and whatnot, but, uh, Things like
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  Speaker 3: you really dig deep.
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  Speaker 2: Into Reddit and some of the other places that are
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  Speaker 2: just pure toxicity. You do not want to go there.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take people disagreeing with me and even throwing names,
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  Speaker 3: name calling and things like that. It's part and parcel
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  Speaker 3: of being a person that's on the air that people
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  Speaker 3: listen to and you give your opinions and you're going
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  Speaker 3: to get it back, man. And everything you've ever done
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  Speaker 3: in your life is now out there for them to
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  Speaker 3: use as fuel and fire to throw upon you, Michael.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing. You should do this, Michael, once
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  Speaker 1: in a while. I do this too often. Someone will
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  Speaker 1: write something really horrible, and so I'll go look and
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  Speaker 1: see who they are, And you'll find them, and it'll
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  Speaker 1: be a picture of them, like, holding their grandchild.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, this is the same individual who's writing these horrible
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  Speaker 1: things to me.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I start looking up the people, and then I
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  Speaker 6: go to their profile. Look, I'm freaking nuts. So let
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  Speaker 6: me be crystal clear.
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  Speaker 2: I am nuts.
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  Speaker 6: And that's why I'm up when I do at night. Like,
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  Speaker 6: at 4 o'clock, 5 o'clock, I start doom-scrolling myself. So
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  Speaker 6: I go ahead, and I start looking. And for whatever
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  Speaker 6: the reason may be, I go to the profile, and
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  Speaker 6: almost unanimously— They're Christian. They are Second Amendment people. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know why, but they always have some form of
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  Speaker 6: a Christian proverb that's in there. So I turn around
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  Speaker 6: and I go, and God bless you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about all you can do. Yeah, yeah. Don't engage.
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  Speaker 2: That's the worst thing you could do.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you're up at four in the morning
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  Speaker 1: reading all that nonsense.
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  Speaker 6: Well, what I also do is I take snapshots of them.
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  Speaker 6: I send them to Kevin, my executive producer. And I
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  Speaker 6: created a whole segment on my show, on my Sunday show,
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  Speaker 6: called Michael's Mailbag, where I actually read it. It's almost
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  Speaker 6: like when I was on Charlemagne's show and they have
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  Speaker 6: mean tweets. I actually go ahead and I read it.
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  Speaker 6: And I call them out. There's something with these people.
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  Speaker 6: It's a significant amount of homophobia. They say some of
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  Speaker 6: the most vile things, not just about me, but my family.
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  Speaker 6: And I can't understand having, I can't understand waking up
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  Speaker 6: first thing in the morning, reading that Michael Cohen is
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  Speaker 6: going to be on WABC taking over for Sid, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and that is enough to trigger them to write something
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  Speaker 6: as hateful as they do. There's something I think really
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  Speaker 6: mentally wrong with them.
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  Speaker 1: What are they writing? You got one right in front
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  Speaker 1: of you?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, of course I do. Oh, I'm curious.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, no, you jest, don't you? And I do have
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  Speaker 6: to be careful here.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 6: So I have this one guy named Edward Robson who
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  Speaker 6: goes ahead and writes. The fact that, again, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to take a very clean one here.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 6: So, folks, trust me, you're going to hear it on
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  Speaker 6: my show where I actually don't. But Edward Robson turns
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  Speaker 6: around and he writes, And no one gives an F.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Well, if that's true, why then eight more did you
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  Speaker 6: write after that? Because then this.
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  Speaker 2: Next one, right?
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  Speaker 6: You know, what in your defense? You can't be that
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  Speaker 6: smart to begin with. Oh, look. Then this is another one.
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  Speaker 6: And by the way, it's literally all like one hour.
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  Speaker 4: They were.
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  Speaker 6: Two minutes, three minutes, four minutes apart from one another. Oh, look, orange-lipped, well,
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  Speaker 6: I can't say that word, gobbler, Michael Cohen did stupid
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  Speaker 6: S today, and no one gives an F. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: this guy goes on and on. Well, I understand I'm
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  Speaker 6: not relevant to you in your life, but to have
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  Speaker 6: nine posts, Edward, makes absolutely no sense. There's something seriously
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  Speaker 6: wrong with you.
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  Speaker 3: You know what it is also? It's the access that
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  Speaker 3: people have to people. This never used to happen. You
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  Speaker 3: used to have to send a letter to the radio station,
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  Speaker 3: care of WABC Radio, Michael Cohen, and you'd have to
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  Speaker 3: open the letter, read it. Now everyone has instant access.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think Clark Gable ever had to read something
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  Speaker 3: that said, you suck, gone with the wind blows?
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  Speaker 2: It's too long.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's too long.
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  Speaker 3: That was back in a day when... agents, managers, publicists,
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  Speaker 3: they read everything. I don't even think the celebrities were
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  Speaker 3: touched by that stuff. Now everyone has access and everyone has.
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  Speaker 3: So am I supposed to now blame this on Chad? John, John,
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  Speaker 3: Chad should be protecting me.
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  Speaker 2: Protection.
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  Speaker 6: I need protection.
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  Speaker 4: I'm enjoying this conversation between the two of you.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I need, I need protection. I
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  Speaker 6: may have to, I may have to go to the streets.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: By the way, her security just texted us that, Kelly
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Laffo will be here at 9.05.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Anthony Cumia. And Anthony, I don't know about you, but
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes I get obsessed with some of these stupid trials,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and I'll watch them on TV or in TikTok form,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: more likely. And this one that I've been kind of
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: obsessed with lately is the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. This
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: is the mom who deliberately killed her three children. She
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: stabbed them. Have you been watching this?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, she has strangled them. It's a horrible, horrible story.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: But I think what really gave this story traction is
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: the support that she's getting from women, from mothers who
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: have come out, protested, I guess, or demonstrated on her behalf,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: holding their kids. This woman killed her three kids, but
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the defense is trying to get some type of insanity
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: plea that she was on prescription drugs that were given
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: to her by doctors who, um, obviously didn't know what
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: they were doing. She had medical and mental problems. And, uh, the,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: the way these women are rallying around her, look, you
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: can support the fact that the pharmaceutical industry, uh, isn't, uh, your,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: your best health isn't in there, uh, the top of,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: of what they're trying to do, but you don't have
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: to support a murderer in order to point out that
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: there are some issues with mental health and the pharmaceutical
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: industry in this country. But there they are, the usual suspects.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: We see them a lot at LGBTQ demonstrations and BLM demonstrations.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: They're just the usual suspects of lunatics. They're mental patients
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: and they're out there cheering on a woman who, that
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: murdered three of her children.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she claims, right, she was in this state
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: of psychosis That's, you know, started this whole thing, but
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I would think that they have to be in your
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: brain already. You know, other people have been in psychosis.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They haven't killed anybody. And then to take your own
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: three children. I'm not buying this whole argument.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm from the school of thought that if you murder anybody,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe if you walk in, you know, the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: old walk in on your, your wife, uh, with another
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: guy and you just lose your mind.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: There you go. You lose your mind. That's one thing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: But if you just, if you murder your kids or
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you just randomly murder people on the street, what have you, yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you're insane. That's not an excuse to get you off
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the hook.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: And the people have been saying with this case that, well,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: even if the defense works, she's going to be in
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: a mental institution for years and years. It's like, yeah,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: but they let people out of those things. We see
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: what John Hinckley he's walking around. He's he's painting. He's
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: selling his paintings. He's making music on on social media.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Have you ever listened to any of that music?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not good.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: He's trying to be Bob Dylan, but yeah, yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Bob Killen. He's not good. I'll tell you that. But
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you know what it is?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: They put him in these hospitals and the doctors, the
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: money that goes to these institutions, they want results. And
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the only results is, hey, we cured somebody. They can't
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: just lock them up. That's called prison, which is where
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: they should be. But when they put him in these hospitals,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: they end up saying, well, we did a great job.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: This person is no longer a danger. And they put
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: him back out there to perhaps hit you over the
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: head with a pipe or push you in front of
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: a subway. So, yeah, I'm not for that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I think regardless of what the verdict is with this woman,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: She should never see the free light of day.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was looking at this jury. So
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: now we're on day four. So you're already wondering, like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: what the hell is taking so long? And it's on
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: nine women and three men. So you would think that
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: would work out well for Lindsay Clancy in the end.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I read something, too, that some of the women on
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the jury were wearing pink when they came in, which
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of the supporters, the women that are supporters
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: wear pink, which would, I think, be a problem. But yeah, boy,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: when you're picking a jury, if you're her attorney and
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you get a majority woman jury in there, you've done
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: your job.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: That is for sure. I don't feel trial of the
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: century material here. No. This is one of those things.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: All right. It's interesting.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: But since OJ, people have been very interested in. trial
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: television shows legal shows these murder shows are huge women
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: love these things you go to a hotel if you
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: have your wife or girlfriend with you you come back
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: and all she's watching is murder death and mayhem it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: crazy they love them you're like what are you what
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: are you getting a few ideas Should I be worried?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Well, and they're unearthing these cases that, you know, nine
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: episodes where they lay out exactly how they carried out
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: this horrific crime.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: Well, you don't have to worry anymore because Nancy Grace
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: is now up in space taking a look at the stars.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Wait, I didn't hear this. Where is she?
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: There's a new telescope that just went up, which is
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: Nancy Grace. It was Nancy Grace, then I forget the
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: last name.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that gave me a head turn real quick.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: You and I both, all of a sudden, I'm like, wait,
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: Nancy Grace is now going to space?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: A bombshell today.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Who's going to turn around and now report on cases
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: like Lindsay Clancy?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm up in space now in a bombshell report.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, she is the worst.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I will have to say this because someone's going to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: call me out later. I worked on that show. I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: was a correspondent for a while. Oh, it says a lot.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Now I get it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: She'd be like, no, I'm lying. What do you think?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I've covered like every crazy
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: story out of New York. Somebody who carried their fetus
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: around in a purse and went shopping that day.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: And then you're going to get, and then you're going
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: to get, what's he doing? The Bob Dylan thing. One
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: of the things I want to.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Ask you that too, that I saw that I, the,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the governor, of course, governor Hochul. She's in this, you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: tough battle with Bruce Blakeman on the polls. Show her
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: up like eight, 10 points with what are we at?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: 10 weeks to go until election day. So Bruce has
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: got a lot of, uh... you know the makeup between
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: now and then if he wants to win this thing
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: so over the weekend you know here we are we're
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: what uh... we're ten days away from the twenty fifth
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: anniversary of the nine eleven attacks and she shows up
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: over the weekend wearing this head scarf as she visits
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the islamic uh... center cultural center uh... of new york
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: in queens and i just thought timing seemed to happen
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It really is insulting is what it is looking at
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: you know where america we love our freedoms and Freedom
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of religion, of course, is a cornerstone of this country.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, have some tact. It's not your religion,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Kathy Hochul. And to put on a headscarf, first of all, why?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: People aren't required to put on other religious garb when
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: they address certain religious groups. Why is that a thing?
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: It's a thing because... In Islam, women are second-class citizens,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: and men tell them what to do. And a woman
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: cannot speak in a room full of men without her
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: head covered. And for some reason, feminists, people that are
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: all rah-rah about women's rights, they have no qualms about
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: kowtowing to men in a religion that tell them to
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: do things. And I love it when they say, oh,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: it's empowering to wear a hajib.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It's empowering. Is it? It's like the women that say
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it's empowering to go on OnlyFans and take their clothes off.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's not empowering. It's embarrassing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And you're doing something that shows that you're weak. And again,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: so close to the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It's just bad. It's in bad taste.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And it's this 9-11 ceremony, right? So now you got her.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: She's going to be there. You got Mayor Mom Donnie,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: but he's not backing down. It doesn't matter if a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: million people sign that petition to ask him to stay away.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: He's going to show up, right? He's the sitting mayor
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of New York City, so they have the right to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: be there. You think about this lineup, right, of the newbies.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the people who were there, of course,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: during the attacks. He did an amazing job. But there
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: they are, and I feel like it's so insulting to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: these families who just want to have a ceremony that's
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: free of politics, and that's not going to happen.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: No, it's one of those things, you know, when obviously
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: 9-11 happened back in 2001, and then the subsequent anniversaries,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: the first year anniversary, very somber, very sad event, and
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: then the five-year anniversary. And I would think, I would
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: say to myself, what is 25 years going to look like?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I thought this many, many years ago. Will people forget?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: You know, never forget, and... Never in my wildest hallucinations
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: could I have imagined a Zoran Memdani being the mayor
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: of New York City.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: On the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have called that one in a thousand years,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: but here we are. And I think, you know, I
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: guess people do either forget or when enough years go by,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: there are people that don't remember in the first place.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: And they're of voting age, and they elect people like
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Zoran Mamdani to be mayor of New York.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Imagine, Anthony, what the spread would have been if you
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: had these betting sites years ago, like 10 years ago,
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: and you would have bet that moron Mamdani was going
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: to be the mayor of New York for the 25th
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: anniversary to highlight just the worst day, the worst day
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: that I think I can remember in almost my lifetime.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we all, you know, have that, you know, like
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the older generation when I was a kid remembered where
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: they were when they heard Kennedy was shot. And then
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: the generation before that remembered Pearl Harbor and where they
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: were when they heard that. And we were the generation
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: that remembered where we were when 9-11 happened. Sure. And,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: you know, those other events earlier in history, yeah, I
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: knew about them. I had a sense of how people felt.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't personal. This was personal, especially if you were.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: In New York.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: We couldn't get into the studio to do the show.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: We had to go out to Long Island and broadcast
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: from there. And then I drove. I lived in Brooklyn.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And just driving in, you could smell the buildings burning
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: for days and days on end.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: That happened.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: All the emergency service personnel that were being treated like heroes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: We see.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: emergency personnel first responders being treated like garbage out on
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the streets these days there were people that were out
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: there every day for months on end holding up signs
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: as the fire trucks went to and from their stations
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: to the the pile at ground zero to um search
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: and recovery and uh cleaning up and that's gone.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gone. I don't think it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: gone because we lived through this, right? And so I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: remember that. I remember stopping and applauding the flyer trucks
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and all that. But the real problem is there are
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: more Americans alive now who were not around for 9-11.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's a bigger deal than we haven't forgotten
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: because we lived through it. But there's more Americans now
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: who did not live through it. And so they relate
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to it maybe in the same way we relate to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor. Right, right.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: you do have to look at it that way it's
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: it's this this is personal for us this is.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Our pearl harbor or kennedy being shot kind of a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: thing uh but it it's.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: It's just too it's too raw yeah for the people
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: that had been there and saw everything and uh the
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the unbelievable loss of life and uh And our way
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: of life. I mean, you could draw a line pre-9-11
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and post-9-11. They were starkly different countries to be living in.
• 30:40
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  Speaker 2: What the heck is going on here?