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MINI SCROLL: Staples Baddie, Alix Earle addresses Bad Bunny backlash, Jake Paul "hacked" + JBC vs. Scooter Braun · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy and the digital space.
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  Every Monday through Thursday and sometimes Fridays.
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  I'm your host, Lauren Meisner, the founder of the youth digital
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  media brand Centennial World. Welcome back to Mini Scroll,
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  everyone. Welcome back to the studio.
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  I don't know if you guys could tell, but the episode that I
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  recorded from the hotel room on Tuesday, I was actually really
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  sick. But I didn't realize that I was
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  sick until like an hour after I recorded that.
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  And I came down with a horrible fever.
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  And then I was just sick. And I was watching the episode
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  back when I was editing it and I was like, why am I so like low
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  energy? What is going on here?
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  And then literally got a fever like an hour later.
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  So yes, if you're like, what is going on in this episode, that's
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  why. But yes, I'm still a little bit
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  sick, but I am definitely starting to feel a bit better.
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  But our trip to Melbourne was really good.
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  We got everything done that we wanted to.
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  We got to record all the episodes outside.
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  I think they were really good. I was a lot more chill in these
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  episodes than the first couple. You know, the first couple I
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  felt a little bit on edge. I wasn't sure like how much I
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  should be projecting outside to be recording, you know, outside
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  in the elements and stuff. So I think these next few
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  episodes of the series will be really good.
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  All right, let's get into the stories for today.
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  So the first story that I have for you guys, I'm not sure if
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  any of you guys have seen this because it's all happened just
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  in the past couple of days, but a Staples retail employee has
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  been going viral for their workplace content.
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  So an employee at Staples is going so viral right now for
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  documenting her experience working at the retailer and
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  giving them literally the best organic press ever.
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  The creator's name is Oblivion, but she calls herself the
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  Staples Baddie and she's a print specialist at the store.
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  For any listeners who are not based in North America, I don't
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  know if they have Staples anywhere else.
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  They don't have it here in Australia at least.
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  Staples is like an office supply store.
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  It's like office works here in Australia, but it's not just an
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  office supply store, according to Oblivion.
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  It is so much more. And that is what a lot of her
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  content is about. So part of what's made this
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  content so viral is that she vlogs herself at work and she
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  shows like different interesting things that you can do at
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  Staples that the average person probably doesn't know.
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  I feel like this segment literally sounds like an ad for
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  Staples, but I promise it's not. And I promise her content is
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  also not an ad for Staples. So it's interesting because like
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  I said, it's not an adverse Staples.
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  Like it's not corporate content, It's not on their account.
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  They're not paying her to make this content as far as we know.
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  It's genuine employee generated content.
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  She's in her uniform, she's at work and she's just like being
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  herself in her content. She's being so funny.
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  She's having such a good time and she is like low key
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  promoting Staples and she talks about how much she loves her job
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  so. It's come to my attention that
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  y'all don't really know the full scope of what Staples like does.
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  Like we can make ornaments, we can make mug shirts, backpack
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  science posters, whatever. You can need a banner that's
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  like 8 feet long shirt. Why not?
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  Let's do do anything. This is my favorite shack that
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  we got in the store. He's just gaming.
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  He's having the time of his life.
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  Anyways, you want a high quality projector by chance?
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  You need like a high quality projector that like turns and
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  like, oh, Oh yeah, let's make him a what happened?
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  Thinking how to do come in store or even online because you can
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  pick this stuff up same day if you order before noon or early
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  in the next morning or get it delivered.
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  How if you don't want to leave your house.
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  Got your picture? Could we print it off on some
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  sublimation paper? Fancy words.
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  Then once I trim this, I'm going to tape it on the mug.
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  As you can see, we've taped that on there.
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  Then we put it in the medieval torture device that you really
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  want to put your arm in, but you don't.
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  And no matter how much I tell myself it's going to be fine if
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  I grab it real quick. Got a pop up some hot gloves.
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  No, not now that I got a cool that is just going to sit there
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  for a while. And now all we got to do is peel
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  to reveal. So then she made a video a
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  couple of days ago talking about what the experience has been
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  like this past week since she went like totally viral.
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  And here is what she said about how she started this content.
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  I started out just like posting just kind of joke videos and
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  then I was like thinking to myself like how little certain
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  services get used and like I was kind of sad I'd never have done
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  them before honestly. Because like when you work there
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  you see all these options and shit and it's like, I want to do
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  that. But like when it comes to
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  something that's like multitudes of money, you're not just going
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  to play around with it because like what?
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  No, So I just was like come on y'all get some direct mail.
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  Let me we can print anything type shit just using fun words
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  and the first video I ever posted was I finna be in the
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  pram referencing the whole terrors world thing because I
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  haven't heard about it in a minute.
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  I was like OK, so like I feel like this would like revive
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  around a little and then I just kept posting and like being
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  myself because I don't know it was easy.
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  I would just put on the camera, just set up like I want to turn
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  it on and to start talking about different things about Staples,
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  random little things, whatever it may be, and having just fun
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  with it 'cause I was like, I don't really hear about Staples
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  services. I really wish I did more, and
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  I'm assuming other people do too.
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  I thought, I thought more people would cause like when I found
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  out all we could do at Staples, I was so floored.
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  I thought that was so cool. I'll be able to help people and
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  be like, yeah, we absolutely can't do that.
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  OK so her first video about Staples was posted on January
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  14th and it was literally just her saying if you need something
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  printed I've got you. And since then she's made 34
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  more video and her Staples content has reached over 18.3
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  million views total. But I wouldn't even say it's
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  like that reach that's been most impressive.
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  She is genuinely changing the way that people are thinking
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  about Staples from both the perspective of what they offer,
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  like I said, but also because of how corporate is seemingly
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  receiving this and responding to her content.
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  Especially after the whole Bauer situation.
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  This is a really good look for Staples because they are in her
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  comment section gassing her up. Apparently, they followed her
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  right away. Apparently, PR for, like, you
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  know, corporate reached out to her with positive words.
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  As far as we know, they haven't asked her to pull back or to
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  share less or to act differently in her videos or anything like
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  that, even though she is making this content, like, while she's
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  on the job, technically. So, yeah, it's been a really
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  positive response, it seems, from Staples corporate, at least
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  so far. And people are like, wow, this
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  is actually changing the way that I view Staples.
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  So this is a take from brand strategist Julie Terkel.
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  What I find so fascinating about it is that this employee is
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  solving a problem that Staples has had with their brand
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  perception for decades, which is that people only go into Staples
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  when they need things that are really boring, like paper and
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  toner, and they don't know all the exciting things that Staples
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  actually has in the store. So the Staples baddie is
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  highlighting all the fun things that you can have printed at
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  Staples, like these mugs. Apparently there are a whole
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  bunch of things that Staples can do in print, and this employee
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  is basically saying I've never been able to do them because
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  people don't come in the store and do all these fun things.
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  Now, I should add that about 15, maybe 20 years ago, I was hired
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  by Staples as a consultant to help them with this issue that
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  they have with their brand perception.
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  And at the time we were looking at adding licenses to bigger
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  categories like office furniture.
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  They ended up not doing it because they are very, very
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  careful about their brand image. But Staples does have a lot of
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  great licenses in the notebook and planners department.
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  The Staples baddie has pointed out about several of them and
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  highlighting all the features inside some of the notebooks and
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  planners that people may not see because they're not going into
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  Staples. And like Romeo and the Jingle
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  for Doctor Pepper, this creator's content is really
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  taking off. It'll be very interesting to see
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  whether Staples embraces this. And then I wanted to read some
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  of the comments that I feel like are making the biggest impact.
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  So one comment on a video from five days ago says, hey, so my
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  13 year old niece and her four friends woke me up at 7:00 AM to
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  ask me to take them to Staples to pick up the mugs.
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  They ordered at some point last night.
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  Where'd they get a credit card? No idea.
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  Is the store open yet? Certainly not.
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  So congratulations on your spokeswomanship and also why
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  someone else wrote I love seeing you low key enjoy the process of
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  the labor you perform next time before showing us.
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  Don't do free advertising for your job though.
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  From what I've seen, if they care at all, they'll punish you
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  down the line for it instead of thanking you.
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  And then she responded. I've been in contact with PR.
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  They love me. So Needless to say, it sounds
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  like she's basically single handedly changing the way that
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  young people think about Staples right now.
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  She's bringing people in store and she's giving them this
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  amazing PR. She needs to be the face of
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  Staples. They need to do like a big
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  digital campaign with her as the face, like as an ambassador.
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  I'm sure they have something in the works for her.
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  But people would lose their minds if they saw that she was
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  actually getting paid by Staples, Not just, you know, to
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  do her retail job, but in like an influencer capacity because
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  of all this genuine like organic ambassadorship that she's been
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  doing. I love it.
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  This is amazing employee generated content.
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  And I know that workplace and employee generated content is a
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  bit controversial. And I totally understand that
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  because I mean, we've talked about different case studies
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  here and there. But like the TBH skin care
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  situation where they had a bunch of employees in a video like the
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  Gen. Z boss and a mini TikTok, which
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  was like super harmless and fun. And then it landed on the
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  manosphere algorithm and Andrew Tate commented on it.
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  And then that got pushed out even more.
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  And it's like that is putting in theory like your employees at
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  risk. So I know it is a bit of like a
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  controversial strategy, but this one is seems to be completely
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  organic and the brand is not trying to squash it or control
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  it because I feel like that happens a lot.
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  OK, so the next story that I have for you guys today is I'm
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  going to cover a couple things that happened around influencers
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  and the halftime show, the Bad Bunny halftime show.
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  I know I touched on the halftime show on Tuesday, but I like
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  hadn't absorbed it yet. It had literally just happened.
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  And anyways, all this stuff has happened since then.
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  So I'm going to talk about how Alex Earl has addressed the
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  backlash around her participating in Bad Bunny's
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  halftime show. And then I'm also going to very
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  quickly talk about Jake Paul and how he claimed to get hacked on
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  Twitter after criticizing Bad Bunny's halftime show.
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  OK, so as we know Alex Earl, she was dancing during the
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  performance in the casita in that section of the halftime
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  show. She was dancing alongside big
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  names like Cardi B, Pedro Pascal, Jessica Alba.
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  Now, there has been a lot of backlash over this.
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  So many feel like Alex was kind of like a weird inclusion
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  because she's not connected to the music or the culture in any
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  meaningful way. I mean, at least as far as we
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  know. But more than that, people were
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  also upset because Alex has been, I suppose you could say,
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  intentionally ambiguous or even silent about where she stands on
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  many issues that Bad Bunny was highlighting through his
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  performance. Now, Alex is one of those
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  creators who is constantly accused of being MAGA, and for
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  good reason. Her family appears to be mega.
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  And she also did do this TikTok live that people bring up a lot
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  years ago where she said I used to be like, Oh yeah, go Trump,
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  obviously indicating that she used to support him.
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  However, as she's become a lot more famous, Alex has been quite
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  quiet on where she stands on things politically and also
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  where she stands on many social issues and human rights issues.
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  And I totally understand that people change and grow and I'm a
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  totally different person than I was 10 years ago.
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  So I, I totally understand that. I will say though, I think most
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  people, if they were like staunchly anti MAGA and anti
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  against everything that's going on right now and they were
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  constantly being accused of being MAGA by their audience,
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  they would probably let their audience know that that's not
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  the case. Anyways, Alex did respond to a
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  comment on her video about the Super Bowl.
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  So somebody wrote you've never once used your platform and
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  voice for the messages Bad Bunny sends.
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  This is unbelievable and undeserved.
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  And then Alex responded, I have pink heart.
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  And being invited to do this was such an incredible experience
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  and so special. The I have with the pink heart.
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  Does that not remind you guys of Donatella Versace with the heart
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  Like I have, I have, I don't know.
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  That just reminds me of Donatella Versace heart.
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  Like there's just something about that I have because it's
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  like so serious and this person is expressing distress around
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  like very real horrible things happening in the world right now
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  and in their country. And she's just like, I have
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  heart. OK.
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  So Alex, I assume what she's referring to is she did post
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  about ice in Minnesota recently. She re shared an infographic
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  that was a carousel about how to help in Minnesota.
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  So I assume that is what she's referencing here.
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  I guess with Alex, I think we need to let go of the fact that
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  like she is going to address any of this.
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  Like she may or may not be MAGA, she may or may not support ICE.
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  Like we don't really know where she stands on things.
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  And I think that's probably partly by design, right?
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  She doesn't want to isolate some of her fans, her followers,
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  whatever. And I'm sure that's like a
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  business decision. But I also think it's probably
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  because mostly what she stands for is herself.
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  She does foster dogs, and she did found that nonprofit in
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  Miami that provides meals for people in need.
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  So she aligns herself with those causes.
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  But I think when it comes to opportunities to further her
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  career, her wealth, her influence, she's going to take
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  them every time, even if they don't align with her politically
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  and socially and all of that. And I understand why a lot of
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  people can't accept that or can't forgive that.
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  Now, David Gruben, who is a Miami restaurateur, he works
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  with a lot of celebrities, including Bad Bunny.
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  There were already like rumors that he was the reason why Alex
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  got involved because I think he's producing their Netflix
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  show. I believe that was the
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  connection story. I didn't actually write that
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  down, but he told Page 6 that Alex was invited to the casita
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  because, quote, Bad Bunny wanted to be inclusive of all,
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  especially for the Casita. He wanted to show a little bit
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  of everything. And I think having her be the
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  face of Gen. Z and so much of America, I just
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  think it's a great thing. Do you guys think Alex Earl is
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  the face of America, of so much of America?
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  OK. And then the Jake Paul thing.
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  I really don't want to make this, like, a full story.
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  He's basically trying to pull like the whole my Twitter was
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  hacked thing. So he tweeted purposefully
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  turning off the halftime show. This was obviously during the
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  Super Bowl. Let's rally together and show
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  big corporations they can't just do whatever they want without
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  consequences, which equals viewership for them.
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  You are their benefit. Realize you have the power.
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  Turn off this half time a fake American citizen performing who
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  publicly hates America. I cannot support that.
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  So obviously that's incredibly bigoted and he was getting
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  backlash for that, but more so he was actually getting backlash
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  because he lives in Puerto Rico. So he was getting so much heat.
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  He then tweeted the problem with my tweet is the word fake being
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  misinterpreted. He's not a fake citizen,
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  obviously, because he's Puerto Rican and I love Puerto Rico and
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  all Americans who support the country more so is fake because
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  of his values and criticism of our great country.
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  That also didn't go over well. So then he tweeted to clarify, I
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  wasn't calling anyone a fake citizen because they're from
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  Puerto Rico. I live in Puerto Rico and I love
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  Puerto Rico. I've used my platform to support
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  Puerto Rico time and time again and always and will always do
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  so. But if you're publicly
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  criticizing ICE who are doing their job and openly hating on
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  America, I'm going to speak on it period.
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  That's the same reason I called out Hunter Hess.
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  If you benefit from a country and the platform it gives you,
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  but publicly disrespected at the same same time.
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  That's what I mean by being a fake citizen.
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  And I agree, love is more powerful than hate.
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  Love America. That's such a weird way to look
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  at this. Like you can't control where
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  you're born. So just because you're born in a
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  country where you don't align with everything going on
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  politically, socially, all of that, you shouldn't go after
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  your dreams and become a world famous singer because you're
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  benefiting from the American public, the American system, the
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  American dollar, whatever. You can't control that.
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  Only people who 100% agree with the government are allowed to
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  like chase their dreams and make it and benefit.
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  That is such a weird stance. OK, but again, it didn't go over
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  well. So then he tweeted, guys, I love
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  bad Bunny. I don't know what happened on my
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  Twitter last night. Question mark, question mark.
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  What the fuck? And then he changed his ex bio
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  to Benito #1 fan. All right, the last story that I
• 17:07
  have for you guys today, this is a mini scroll story.
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  If there was ever a mini scroll story.
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  A Justin Bieber fan account is alleging that Scooter Braun
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  manipulated her to control Justin.
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  So Lauren Portis, the owner of the iconic Justin Bieber update
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  account jbcrew.com, JBC for short, has come out about her
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  alleged experiences dealing with Scooter Braun.
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  For context, JBC was extremely influential and famous among
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  Stan, Twitter, and chronically online believers through the 20
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  tens. And to give you a bit of context
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  on just how powerful JBC was, Lauren and members of the JBC
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  social media team were invited to attend the iHeartRadio Awards
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  multiple times, as well as other award shows like the Billboard
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  Music Awards. Lauren was also repeatedly
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  tapped for interviews by media outlets such as MTV Brand Watch,
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  Capital FM, BBC Radio 1, Refinery 29, and more.
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  Lauren was also just thirteen years old when she created this
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  account and ended up building it to a whole social media team.
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  According to social stats that she has shared on LinkedIn,
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  across different social media platforms, JBC had reached over
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  1,000,000 followers total. Now she's in her mid to late 20s
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  and Lauren has taken a step back from the account, but she does
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  continue to post on social media about Justin Bieber.
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  Recently, she took to acts with this bombshell, so she shared an
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  alleged screenshot of a message from Scooter Braun, who was
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  obviously Justin's manager at the time.
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  The message read from Scooter allegedly put up an image of
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  Justin on stage holding someone's hand in caption.
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  Justin never lets us down. He is always there for us.
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  Love you Justin. To add more context, Lauren
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  wrote a throwback to when Scooter was trying to get me to
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  get Justin to. She didn't write not but I
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  assume she meant to say not cancel his tour back in 2017
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  lol. As in like trying to get a fan
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  account to make Justin feel guilty because he was about to
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  cancel the final fourteen shows of the purpose tour.
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  And obviously if this is true, this is incredibly exploitative
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  of Scooter with Justin. Which I guess is probably no
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  surprise from what we know about what Justin has to say about
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  Scooter and what we know about Scooter Braun from Taylor Swift
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  and just in general the industry.
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  However, it's also very exploitative of Lauren.
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  Like she was a teenage girl who would have done anything to get
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  close to her favorite artist and his manager, his world famous
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  manager, is messaging her and telling her to post things.
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  It's so crazy. If this is true, this is crazy.
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  And then she also took to her Instagram stories to share more
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  alleged interactions between herself and Scooter.
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  So she talked about how Scooter repeatedly said he would make
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  JVC quote an official fan account, which did not end up
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  happening. As she wrote quote, once a
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  businessman, always a businessman.
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  Everything was false promises with him.
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  Can't tell you how much he went on about.
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  I'll make you the official fan page.
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  She also alleged that Scooter was almost trying to control
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  what they were posting on JBC. She shared a screenshot of her
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  missed calls on her story writing quote.
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  When he was calling me and telling me to post things to
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  make Justin feel bad, he wanted us to post videos of little kids
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  being excited to see Justin on tour so he wouldn't cancel the
• 20:15
  tour. Now, other members of JBC have
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  gone on to corroborate Lauren's story and share their own
• 20:21
  experiences. For example, 1 user named Cindy
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  wrote quote. I was part of JBC when this
• 20:26
  happened and never thought this would see the light of day.
• 20:29
  The way he wanted us to post certain things to convince
• 20:31
  Justin to not cancel the tour since he followed us on IG was
• 20:34
  insane and still is to this day. Scooter has been trash.
• 20:37
  Another alleged member of JBC, Elena.
• 20:41
  She posted this on her Instagram.
• 20:43
  I think it is. Yeah.
• 20:43
  Her Instagram stories she wrote. For context.
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  If you don't know, I've been involved with JBC since around
• 20:48
  2014 ish. I honestly don't remember the
• 20:50
  exact year. I feel like some people are
• 20:52
  misconstruing Lauren's words, especially under the one
• 20:54
  Instagram post Scooter boasts. Definitely tried to control
• 20:57
  things that we posted for years. Any little thing we posted that
• 21:01
  he didn't like, he would immediately message us to take
• 21:03
  it down. But that doesn't mean that we
• 21:05
  always listened. If there was a seemingly logical
• 21:07
  reason behind it, yes we would delete the post.
• 21:10
  Otherwise we ignored him. There was ultimately no reason
• 21:12
  to listen to him. This applies to Scooter trying
• 21:15
  to get us to guilt trip JB and to continuing the purpose tour.
• 21:18
  It was a whole discussion we had and while we were almost all
• 21:20
  literal children at the time, we still knew it was wrong and
• 21:23
  didn't do it. Honestly I'm really impressed by
• 21:26
  the idea of a bunch of, you know, 141516 year olds getting
• 21:31
  messages from Scooter Braun. Like from somebody who is like
• 21:34
  literally the closest person to their favorite person in the
• 21:38
  world, Justin Bieber, and ignoring his request.
• 21:42
  I love that. What a power move.
• 21:44
  So yeah, safe to say the Beliebers are very much
• 21:46
  believing Lauren and the JVC crew.
• 21:49
  I guess I had never really thought about it that much, but
• 21:52
  it makes perfect sense that managers and people who work
• 21:56
  alongside these stars are working with these fan accounts.
• 22:00
  Or I wouldn't actually say working in many cases, probably
• 22:03
  feeding them information and manipulating them.
• 22:05
  And I suppose we saw similar things.
• 22:07
  Why do I have to bring everything back to Drama Geddon,
• 22:10
  my favorite topic. I we saw similar accusations
• 22:14
  around Armageddon where drama channels and even just like not
• 22:18
  even drama channels, but channels that covered like the
• 22:20
  influencer beauty space. We're getting allegedly fed
• 22:23
  information from some of the biggest players in all of these
• 22:26
  big feuds, right? And things that were happening
• 22:28
  on YouTube and all the drama and everything.
• 22:30
  And that was really shifting the narrative that we saw play out
• 22:34
  because of this alleged information that they were
• 22:37
  getting fed and they were taking it.
• 22:39
  Because of course, I want to be damning with like Jeffrey Star
• 22:41
  if I'm a huge fan of the space and I don't fully understand the
• 22:45
  harm that he's causing yet, you know, So I think it probably
• 22:48
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