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Ginther and thoughts on Epstein · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: I railed yesterday regarding this, once again the ridiculous nature
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  Speaker 1: of the city of Columbus. And we lost a young
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  Speaker 1: man for the fourth of July weekend, seventeen years old,
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  Speaker 1: killed at a party in a Airbnb or I guess
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  Speaker 1: something along those lines on Wilson Avenue. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: on my Facebook page, you saw one of the last
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  Speaker 1: things I posted last night, as I am getting so
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  Speaker 1: blasted fed up with the way things are run in
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  Speaker 1: this city. The mayor. The mayor speaks out, and what
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  Speaker 1: are they speaking about. They didn't speak about going after
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  Speaker 1: the criminals who perpetrated the crimes, who fired the shots,
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  Speaker 1: who killed the young man. He's talking about ordinances regarding
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  Speaker 1: the bed and breakfast business in central Ohio. So we
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  Speaker 1: can't control the crime or the criminals. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: find new race regulations for people that have the airbnbs. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's our answer. As I put out there last night,
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  Speaker 1: this makes as much sense as banning brought worst after
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  Speaker 1: ten pm to cut short North violence. This has nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do. But their first answer is always legislation to
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  Speaker 1: go after somebody who might have a few bucks in
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  Speaker 1: their pocket so they can either feed them, fire them,
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  Speaker 1: find them or you know, charge them membership or something.
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  Speaker 1: That's always the answer in this city. Anymore, someone is dead,
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  Speaker 1: people got scared, shot injured, bad people or persons did
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  Speaker 1: bad things, and instead of talking about the crime and
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  Speaker 1: the criminals, his instinct is to talk about getting ordinances
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  Speaker 1: past regulating the airbnbs in Columbus, Ohio. That is a big, giant,
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  Speaker 1: full color picture of exactly what is wrong with my
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  Speaker 1: hometown in twenty twenty five. It's almost like you're implying
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't care. It's not a matter of caring. It's
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  Speaker 1: a matter of not take your head out of there
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  Speaker 1: and bring it out here in the real world, is
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We cannot keep ordinancing ourselves. This is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: As I said, the comparison between the Short North violence
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  Speaker 1: we had that shooting. Ten people shot in the Short North.
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  Speaker 1: What was his reaction, No food trucks after ten pm?
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna curb the violence that I'm sorry, that is
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  Speaker 1: so disconnected from anything resembling reality. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: what to think of it. This reaction much the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've made fun of the the food cart thing.
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  Speaker 1: For you have to make fun of it. Otherwise you
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  Speaker 1: cry right, just the absurdity of it. If I had
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  Speaker 1: grown up somewhere else, maybe it would be easier. But
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  Speaker 1: I've grown up here, and I've got a couple of people.
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  Speaker 1: One of them sent messages last night who was one
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  Speaker 1: of the mayor's former teachers, and I was talking with
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  Speaker 1: that teacher about the fact that there's somebody else on
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  Speaker 1: my social media who was one of my former teachers,
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  Speaker 1: who was also one of his former teachers. He had
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  Speaker 1: me at Westmore and Mayor Ginther was one of his
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  Speaker 1: students at Dominion Junior High School up there by the
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  Speaker 1: Park of Roses, And that particular teacher, he's so kind hearted,
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  Speaker 1: he's still he still believed. You know, if you and
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  Speaker 1: Ernie just sat down, I think you'd find a lot
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  Speaker 1: of common ground. No, sir, we would not. We would not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to burst that bubble, and I appreciate what
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  Speaker 1: you did for me as my teacher when I was
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  Speaker 1: in school and the good human being that you are.
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  Speaker 1: But no, as long as more laws, more regulations, more fees,
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  Speaker 1: more fines is your answer to every blasted thing that happens.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of arresting bad guys and putting them in jail
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  Speaker 1: that we have nothing in common, and for him to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna call the judge over this. This
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  Speaker 1: bus station, which by the way, is still open over
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  Speaker 1: on Wilson Road, what's that been seven eight months? That's
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  Speaker 1: been a long time since. Yeah, we're closing this thing down.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even a bus station. It's a gas station
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  Speaker 1: where the people sit outside and wait on the bus.
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  Speaker 1: Then there's all kinds of areas over there. I actually
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  Speaker 1: pointed it out, put a video up on Facebook. Right
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  Speaker 1: up there at BroadOn Wilson the old Kroger store at
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  Speaker 1: the Great Western Shopping Center. Before Kroger moved to the
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  Speaker 1: west side of Wilson Road, they had a store on
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  Speaker 1: the east side, next to the restaurant depot. That is
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  Speaker 1: plenty big to be a bus station. You've got plenty
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  Speaker 1: of park in a giant unused parking lot. You could
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  Speaker 1: have ticketing and seating and waiting areas and rest facilities
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  Speaker 1: and lockers and everything else in that old Kroger building.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of letting it sit there empty doing nothing. It
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  Speaker 1: would make so much more sense to have a bus
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  Speaker 1: station there. Plus you still have easy access to I
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  Speaker 1: seventy and I two seventy and six seventy and three
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  Speaker 1: point fifteen From there, it's perfect, perfect, But six or
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  Speaker 1: seven months have gone by since they that we need
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  Speaker 1: them to move now that it's still there, which is
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  Speaker 1: another sad statement. More you know, pounding your fist and
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  Speaker 1: saying here's what needs to be done, but you don't
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  Speaker 1: get it done. As of yesterday it hadn't been done.
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  Speaker 1: What phone calls have you made? You called Judge Mingo,
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  Speaker 1: Have you called the people that own that Kroger building
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  Speaker 1: and the bus station people and said, hey, well, let's
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  Speaker 1: get you guys at the table. When's the last time
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  Speaker 1: you were, you know, in one of these neighborhoods where
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about ordinancing things that didn't involve reporters or
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  Speaker 1: cameras or some sort of pr when's the last time
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  Speaker 1: you just got in the car and came out to
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  Speaker 1: see what's going on on the south side, See what
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  Speaker 1: the Parsons Avenue is looking like, See what the west
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  Speaker 1: side is looking like. No occasion, no vote, getting no
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  Speaker 1: picture taken, just going out into your city feeling it,
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  Speaker 1: touching it, smelling it, being afraid of it. In a
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  Speaker 1: lot of cases, because that's the way we live every day.
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  Speaker 1: We can't ordinance our way out of things. So sad
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  Speaker 1: that this is what we become. A two one, nine
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  Speaker 1: and eight six A two one WTVN is my number, Roger,
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  Speaker 1: You're on six ten double TV and hight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chuck, if you wanted to get back into the
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  Speaker 2: f scene thing a little bit. I had heard the
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  Speaker 2: tail end of what you and Mark were talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Pam Bondi said that there was no client list, but
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  Speaker 2: what about the flight logs or passenger list whatever they
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  Speaker 2: call them. I don't I'm not an aviation expert.
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  Speaker 1: But she also said there was a client list. There
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  Speaker 1: was a client list, and Cash Bettel was going to
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  Speaker 1: have it to her on Monday, and then she was
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  Speaker 1: gonna she was going to subpoena the FBI if she
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  Speaker 1: had to. She wanted that list. And now there's no
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  Speaker 1: client list. So I'm telling you, man, it's smoking mirrors,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of people covering their own butts.
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  Speaker 2: WHOA, Well, I didn't hear that part of what you
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  Speaker 2: were saying. But this is another category of information that
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  Speaker 2: I thought might be available to all of us. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if a regulations, but I would think it.
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  Speaker 2: Even though it's this private jet you took down the
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  Speaker 2: air back and forth to the island, I think you
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  Speaker 2: still would have had to have a list of passengers,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in case something happened. So why can't we
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  Speaker 2: all get that information? Why can't that information being released,
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  Speaker 2: all the passenger lists of all the flights that Epstein
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  Speaker 2: took on the Lilita Express. I think somebody ought to
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  Speaker 2: ask Pambondi that, or maybe somebody who knows more than
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  Speaker 2: you and I could could talk about that. But that's
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  Speaker 2: something I've always wondered about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and again, as I was saying earlier, for him
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  Speaker 1: to allegedly have killed himself, this is what we're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to swallow. He killed himself, he was facing all these charges,
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  Speaker 1: he'd been arrested. He killed himself, and now, Roger, what
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  Speaker 1: we're hearing is we got nothing. Well, if that's the case,
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  Speaker 1: why would he have killed himself? Yeah, that doesn't follow.
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  Speaker 1: If he knew he hadn't done anything, there was no
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  Speaker 1: evidence against him. Why would this billionaire, with all these
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  Speaker 1: connections and a fairly bright human being, why would he
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  Speaker 1: have killed himself? He would have just waited it out.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not what this picture is not. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like you, I'm really disappointed that they haven't
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  Speaker 2: done more about this, and it does look very very suspicious.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of other things they've done, right, but this
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  Speaker 2: does look does look suspicious. But I can't argue with that.
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  Speaker 2: I can't defend him. You know, we don't know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things, do.
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  Speaker 1: We, absolutely And I'm hoping, you know, as I told
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  Speaker 1: Mark earlier, Man, I'm my chips are still on Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and I get let's give him a couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm hoping he comes out and goes, Okay, now
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  Speaker 1: we've handled everything we needed to handle in Texas. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get to this. This is garbage. How do we not
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  Speaker 1: have proof? Either heads are rolling, jobs are lost, or
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get this crap on my desk in
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  Speaker 1: the old office right now. I know. I love it,
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  Speaker 1: That's what I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see that because I you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think all of us believe that that he didn't make
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  Speaker 2: any of those trips. There may have been pictures of
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  Speaker 2: him with epscene. I think maybe I've seen one, but
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  Speaker 2: he broke it off with him, you know, many many
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  Speaker 2: years ago. So but he still may have friends, you know,
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  Speaker 2: close friends. I mean, I hate to think that about Trump,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, God knows who all made those trips,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, there may be all kinds of people. That's
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  Speaker 2: why i'd like to see I think they should be
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  Speaker 2: able to show everybody those uh uh passenger lists. You
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  Speaker 2: know that that doesn't I don't see why that's not
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  Speaker 2: privileged information. I don't see why that should be kept
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  Speaker 2: private and not exposed for all the American people. And
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  Speaker 2: then we can at least start looking at the names
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  Speaker 2: and count I mean, there's there's a story unconfirmed. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: you know, way back when they started a slick, Willy
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  Speaker 2: was on about five or six of those, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, the pictures don't bother me as much
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  Speaker 1: as I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Have been confirmed or not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I mean there's I've seen a couple of
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  Speaker 1: pictures of Epstein at parties or whatever and Trump was buying.
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  Speaker 1: But I can tell you right now, if you go
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  Speaker 1: look on social media, you will find me and buddy
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  Speaker 1: buddy pictures with former mayor Mike Coleman, with Democrat State
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  Speaker 1: Legislature member Hersseel Craig, probably a couple on there with
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  Speaker 1: very Left legislate leader Charlie Tavares. I've had friends over
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  Speaker 1: the years. That doesn't mean I'm complicit with them. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean I've become a liberal. I've been at events
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  Speaker 1: with them and you know, you stand, Hey, take a picture.
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  Speaker 1: We're here. So the pictures don't bother me. But I
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  Speaker 1: think there's plenty of proof out there to be had,
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that it seems to get swept under
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  Speaker 1: the rug right now is really bugging me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, and I think a lot of us.
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  Speaker 2: They got a lot of things done in Congress. Thank god,
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  Speaker 2: that's all good, but this thing still looks dirty.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, thanks Chuck, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: For what you do. Thank you for the call, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. It's what is it? Don't ask me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It could be any
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  Speaker 1: number of things, any number of people, any number of
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  Speaker 1: reasons why all of this suddenly is nothing. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a conspiracy theorist to the point where I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, aliens are involved. I think there's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of politicians covering each other. But that's all.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Way too many rumors out there, and I'm telling them
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  Speaker 1: all the way back. Look you ever, the Democrats, who
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  Speaker 1: black voters seem to love largely because of jfk and
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy, because of the civil rights actions that they took,
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  Speaker 1: because they lost their lives in pursuit of increase of
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  Speaker 1: civil rights in this country for non white people, so
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  Speaker 1: they became iconic. The thing of it is is, if
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  Speaker 1: you look at everything John F. Kennedy said and did
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  Speaker 1: as a politician, not just president, but as a politician,
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  Speaker 1: he'll sound a whole hell of a lot more like
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump to you than he will Joe Biden. He
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  Speaker 1: would be, I believe firmly a Republican by today's standards.
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  Speaker 1: Ask not what your country can do for you, what
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  Speaker 1: you can do for your country. That is a conservative mindset.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how the Democrats think. They want to know
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  Speaker 1: what you country can do for you. How you gonna
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  Speaker 1: give me that universal basic income? How you gonna pay
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  Speaker 1: my house for me? How are you gonna pay for
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  Speaker 1: my groceries for me? That allegiance to those two Kennedys
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  Speaker 1: translated into an allegiance to the Democrat Party, And for
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  Speaker 1: people who can honestly say that, well, because of the
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy's I should be a Democrat. You know, Google's a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful thing. Man, Go go search out the Lyndon B.
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  Speaker 1: Johnson tapes, JFK's vice president. Listen to what he had
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  Speaker 1: to say about your votes and once once they got
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  Speaker 1: your votes, they got you. Listen to the language he used.
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  Speaker 1: Not very complimentary, not very flattering, not acceptable, but Gulstover,
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  Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. We can get one
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  Speaker 1: more in here, Lee. We got about a minute. You're
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  Speaker 1: on six to ten WTVN.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Chuck, I love what you do. I like your
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  Speaker 3: local flavor for SHO. I had a comment about I
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  Speaker 3: wondered premire Andy Genta. He's just my call than two
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  Speaker 3: point bottom line in the story. I remember Coleman, you
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  Speaker 3: know where he ran the city, and he was doing
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  Speaker 3: about the same thing. He wasn't quite as unlikable as
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  Speaker 3: if I can say that as near AGENTA. But he's
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  Speaker 3: doing the exact same things as that Coleman did, and
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  Speaker 3: the Democrats are still running the city council.
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  Speaker 2: To this day.
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  Speaker 1: I will give Mike Coleman credit for this. He was
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  Speaker 1: more of a consensus person, whereas Andy Ginther seems to
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  Speaker 1: be very much a dictator. This is my way, my rules.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the big cheese, I'm the head cheese, I'm the boss.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I'm going to do. Whereas Mike Coleman,
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  Speaker 1: but even if I disagreed with him, he had a
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  Speaker 1: tendency to get out into the community and talk to
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  Speaker 1: people and get some input before taking his positions.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was much more likable. Andy's like the new
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  Speaker 3: generation of Democrat winning the city and that's about what
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  Speaker 3: most of the Democrats are doing around the country.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you'll get a chance to vote for him again
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  Speaker 1: because he says he's running for mayor again Lee, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, might want to get in line early for that.