Latest / District Territory / 5 players who must be back for the Nationals next year
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome back to the District Territory Podcast. I'm Eric Shellhouse
- 0:09Speaker 1: from Bat Boys Baseball and joining me today, Spencer Nussbaum
- 0:12Speaker 1: from The Athletic. The Nationals regular season is in the books,
- 0:15Speaker 1: 77 and 85, their final record. A 10-win improvement from
- 0:18Speaker 1: last season and there is hope heading into the offseason.
- 0:21Speaker 1: In today's episode, we're going to be talking about five
- 0:24Speaker 1: players that need to be returning to next season's team
- 0:27Speaker 1: to make a big impact. So starting off, Riley Cornelio,
- 0:30Speaker 1: this guy finished off strong in September. He had three
- 0:33Speaker 1: earned runs, nine hits across, six and two-thirds inning with
- 0:37Speaker 1: 20 strikeouts. And he had seven and two-thirds scoreless innings
- 0:41Speaker 1: in his three opener appearances, Spencer. He did have nine
- 0:45Speaker 1: walks across those performances, but there's a strong case for
- 0:49Speaker 1: him to return next season and be a part of
- 0:53Speaker 1: this Nationals rotation, given what he provided down the stretch there.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Riley's really interesting and he's kind of
- 1:00Speaker 2: one of these bubble cases that we'll be talking about
- 1:03Speaker 2: today where I think you could make the compelling argument
- 1:07Speaker 2: that he isn't on the roster. To me, part of
- 1:11Speaker 2: what fascinates me and I think why he should be
- 1:13Speaker 2: or at least why he's lined up to be heading
- 1:15Speaker 2: into next season in part is because it doesn't feel
- 1:19Speaker 2: like there's a whole lot left for him to learn
- 1:20Speaker 2: at AAA, right? You could argue, hey, potentially the command,
- 1:25Speaker 2: but I think a lot of what the Nationals want
- 1:27Speaker 2: to see out of him is performance in some of
- 1:30Speaker 2: these either tough roles or again potentially there isn't a
- 1:35Speaker 2: window open for him to be a starting pitcher right
- 1:38Speaker 2: and I think that with either one of those things
- 1:40Speaker 2: you want to see that up at the major league
- 1:42Speaker 2: level the strikeouts are really good the walks are too
- 1:46Speaker 2: high something that I know he's focused on working on
- 1:49Speaker 2: this offseason but I just look at him as someone
- 1:53Speaker 2: who the kind of you know fits the Nationals archetype
- 1:58Speaker 2: perfectly where he is probably a good walk away from
- 2:03Speaker 2: being a good major league pitcher. I think that that,
- 2:06Speaker 2: if we were thinking about the nationals from a year ago,
- 2:08Speaker 2: it was kind of the opposite where it's, this guy
- 2:09Speaker 2: is like, you know, an X amount of stuff away
- 2:12Speaker 2: from being a big league pitcher. But no, I really
- 2:15Speaker 2: like what he could potentially bring to next year's roster,
- 2:18Speaker 2: either as like a number five starter or as a
- 2:23Speaker 2: sort of opener, long reliever or, Not yet a leverage role,
- 2:29Speaker 2: but you have to figure he, Brad Lord, will be on,
- 2:34Speaker 2: will be competing for some sort of mix. And I
- 2:37Speaker 2: really like what Cornelio brings just from a stuff perspective
- 2:40Speaker 2: when the walks are down.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Yeah, he finished the season with 36 and two thirds
- 2:46Speaker 1: total innings, just the 29 walks. Not incredible, but 40 strikeouts.
- 2:51Speaker 1: The swing and miss is definitely there. And opponents hit
- 2:53Speaker 1: just 206 against him in his rookie season. Pretty good
- 2:57Speaker 1: stuff from Riley, I would say, overall. I like him,
- 3:01Speaker 1: like you said in the argument, for the starting rotation
- 3:03Speaker 1: next year. I think he is a lot more serviceable
- 3:06Speaker 1: in that opener role, and I like Will Dion for
- 3:10Speaker 1: the versatility that he can bring as a lefty out
- 3:12Speaker 1: of the bullpen, although we have seen at times, I guess,
- 3:15Speaker 1: where that has played well as a matchup at the
- 3:18Speaker 1: top of the lineup as well. Brad Lord really found
- 3:23Speaker 1: another gear in the– at the end of the season
- 3:26Speaker 1: there in his bulk outings out of the bullpen. And
- 3:29Speaker 1: to me, Cornelio is probably the best fit for that, uh,
- 3:32Speaker 1: that fifth rotation spot.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I still think I wouldn't want to make
- 3:38Speaker 2: that sort of, um, distinction yet. And it, cause it's
- 3:42Speaker 2: all stuff like I'm still thinking about that. I think
- 3:44Speaker 2: the nationals are still thinking about obviously, um, with another, whatever,
- 3:48Speaker 2: five months to go, um, walk out TBD, but, Yeah,
- 3:54Speaker 2: I mean, you think that you have those spots in
- 3:57Speaker 2: the rotation sorted out and potentially we'll be talking about
- 4:00Speaker 2: some of them coming up here. But you think about
- 4:04Speaker 2: potentially going with Cavalli, Early, Alvarez, and then it's TBD
- 4:12Speaker 2: behind that, right? You would hope they sign a starter
- 4:15Speaker 2: for agency. And then between a number of guys, whether
- 4:19Speaker 2: it's DJ Herz, Riley Cornelio, Harley and Susanna, um, Travis Sikora,
- 4:26Speaker 2: if he's healthy and just blows you out of the
- 4:28Speaker 2: water in spring training. Um, although maybe that one would
- 4:31Speaker 2: take a bit longer. Um, there are, you know, Jake Irvin, um,
- 4:36Speaker 2: if the team decides to bring him back, there are
- 4:39Speaker 2: a number of options where we're an off season away
- 4:41Speaker 2: from knowing for sure. Um, but I just kind of
- 4:44Speaker 2: like Riley and that sort of, um, Brad Lord with,
- 4:48Speaker 2: you know, more strikeouts and more walks. Um, I like
- 4:53Speaker 2: to see him potentially figuring it out on next year's roster.
- 4:58Speaker 1: We'll talk about Andrew Alvarez a little later in this episode,
- 5:01Speaker 1: but next up we're going to jump over to Andres Chaparro,
- 5:04Speaker 1: who was an absolute beast in the second half. This
- 5:07Speaker 1: dude had an OPS of 1-0-1-2 in the second half.
- 5:12Speaker 1: That's a full point and batted. 327 in September. He
- 5:16Speaker 1: had a career-high 83 games played in. He really found
- 5:20Speaker 1: himself emerging as the everyday player first baseman there down
- 5:23Speaker 1: the stretch, even though Yohani Morales had been called up.
- 5:27Speaker 1: I think he is a guy that they need to
- 5:29Speaker 1: have on the roster every single day next year for
- 5:32Speaker 1: the offensive production he brought to the table in the
- 5:34Speaker 1: second half. Right.
- 5:36Speaker 3: And we think about it.
- 5:37Speaker 2: He actually was on the opening day roster last year,
- 5:41Speaker 2: but he was optioned the day after he was on
- 5:43Speaker 2: the opening day roster.
- 5:44Speaker 3: They like the matchup.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Um, but they didn't really think he was, he was
- 5:48Speaker 2: ready to be an everyday player. Um, or candidly, like
- 5:51Speaker 2: even a, you know, platoon player, just, uh, raking against lefties.
- 5:56Speaker 2: What he became in the second half, um, almost finishing
- 6:00Speaker 2: the entire season with a higher RPS than James Wood.
- 6:03Speaker 2: They were neck and neck. Um, I think that, and I,
- 6:06Speaker 2: I put this out the other day. I think some
- 6:08Speaker 2: Nationals fans still view him as a platoon player. Um, I,
- 6:12Speaker 2: I guess theoretically I could understand that argument. Um, you know,
- 6:16Speaker 2: maybe wanting to see a larger sample, whatever it may be. Um,
- 6:20Speaker 2: but this guy raked and he, he raked from July on.
- 6:24Speaker 2: And for me, that's a large enough sample to say
- 6:26Speaker 2: he's in your opening day lineup. Um, whether it is
- 6:30Speaker 2: as your first baseman, whether it's as your DH, um,
- 6:34Speaker 2: potentially if the third base improves, and I know that's
- 6:36Speaker 2: a pretty big leap to make.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Um, but you know, theoretically, if you can.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Slide him between those two to three spots, um, it's
- 6:45Speaker 2: really hard to keep a guy with an OPS near
- 6:47Speaker 2: 900 lineup. Is that to say that I think he'll
- 6:51Speaker 2: run it back and have a 900 OPS next year?
- 6:53Speaker 3: I couldn't say that.
- 6:56Speaker 2: You know, I think if I were to guess what
- 6:57Speaker 2: their projections are next season, probably high 700s, low 800s.
- 7:03Speaker 2: But for a first base DH bat, that is exactly
- 7:07Speaker 2: kind of what you're looking for. And yeah, Yeah, I
- 7:12Speaker 2: candidly think he has earned the spot regardless of how
- 7:14Speaker 2: he performs in spring training just because of how good
- 7:17Speaker 2: the second half was. So, yeah, I think they have
- 7:20Speaker 2: to bring him back in some form or fashion and
- 7:23Speaker 2: work around him. Whereas I think, you know, a few
- 7:26Speaker 2: months ago I would have said, you know, work around
- 7:29Speaker 2: Louis or after the trade, work around, I mean, Malik
- 7:31Speaker 2: Ortiz or whatever.
- 7:33Speaker 3: No, I think that Chaparro has earned that spot.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. He was just a monster in the second
- 7:40Speaker 1: half after that July 17th game in Oakland, excuse me,
- 7:44Speaker 1: against the Athletics. Four for five with two home runs
- 7:48Speaker 1: and 10 total bases. And then they just hit another
- 7:51Speaker 1: gear from there. An incredible season for him overall. And yeah,
- 7:54Speaker 1: regardless of the output in spring training, I think he's
- 7:58Speaker 1: got to be a part of that roster come opening day.
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- 9:28Speaker 1: guy who had an awesome second half for the nationals,
- 9:31Speaker 1: Brady house. And, uh, he had a pretty respectable first
- 9:34Speaker 1: couple of weeks of the season. And then something just
- 9:36Speaker 1: sort of teetered off. He was demoted to triple a
- 9:39Speaker 1: on May 19th and recalled on July 26th. He also
- 9:43Speaker 1: demonstrated a lot more comfortability over there every day at
- 9:46Speaker 1: third base Spencer. Um, it seems like it is time
- 9:49Speaker 1: for him to take the reins and really become the
- 9:52Speaker 1: everyday third basement over there. Um, with the quality of
- 9:55Speaker 1: the at-bats he had in the second half.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a really.
- 10:01Speaker 2: compelling question, right? Because as you mentioned, the defense looked
- 10:06Speaker 2: a lot better in the second half. He is a
- 10:09Speaker 2: young player.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Who theoretically should be able to learn how to hit
- 10:15Speaker 3: right-handed pitching.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Um, but we also look at, you know, those numbers
- 10:19Speaker 2: on the right side of the screen, 586 OPS against
- 10:21Speaker 2: righties this year, um, is not good enough to be
- 10:24Speaker 2: an everyday bat. So, um, yeah, I think so much
- 10:28Speaker 2: about his at bats against righties. And I, I think
- 10:30Speaker 2: the underlying numbers, um, the under the hood stuff, so
- 10:33Speaker 2: to speak was better in the second half against righties. Um,
- 10:37Speaker 2: I think if we remember correctly, he hit that ball,
- 10:40Speaker 2: almost 500 feet, although it was brought back down to
- 10:43Speaker 2: about 445, if I'm remembering correctly, in a game at
- 10:48Speaker 2: home kind of late in the season. He showed exactly
- 10:52Speaker 2: kind of what he needed to to prove he should
- 10:55Speaker 2: at least get to start the season as the opening
- 10:58Speaker 2: day third baseman. What kind of fascinates me or will
- 11:03Speaker 2: at least interest me is how they figure playing time
- 11:06Speaker 2: over there, whether it is Um, you know, with him
- 11:10Speaker 2: and Vivas platooning, whether it is with him and some
- 11:13Speaker 2: free agent or traded left-handed bat platooning, whether they want
- 11:18Speaker 2: to split that up with him, uh, Yo-Yo Morales, Chaparro,
- 11:22Speaker 2: however they split it up. Um, I don't think he's
- 11:25Speaker 2: like solid as 162 games of your starting third baseman
- 11:31Speaker 2: next year. Um, I think I'd still need to see
- 11:33Speaker 2: a But you watch the at-bats in the second half.
- 11:38Speaker 2: You watch the defense, especially.
- 11:41Speaker 3: In the second half.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Just a lot more aggressive, confident, going into every pitch
- 11:49Speaker 2: in the field and at the plate with an approach.
- 11:53Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I think he's earned that spot. And
- 11:55Speaker 2: I am really compelled to see how maybe they figure
- 11:59Speaker 2: out what else third base looks like around him. Because, again,
- 12:02Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to have him playing all
- 12:04Speaker 2: 162 over there.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Yeah, there's certainly going to be interesting infield competition when
- 12:12Speaker 1: we get around to spring training, whenever that is next year,
- 12:16Speaker 1: given how Sabre King finished up his season, too. I
- 12:19Speaker 1: think we can't forget about him in this entire conversation.
- 12:22Speaker 1: But Brady is the Nationals' former first-round pick from 2021,
- 12:25Speaker 1: selected 11th overall. It really feels like next season could
- 12:29Speaker 1: be on to some really big things for him. Let's
- 12:34Speaker 1: go ahead and jump over to Andrew Alvarez as our
- 12:36Speaker 1: next candidate for returning to next season's Nationals roster. Man,
- 12:41Speaker 1: this dude was just nails down the stretch. He carried
- 12:43Speaker 1: a 2-8-7 ERA across his final seven starts, 114 strikeouts,
- 12:49Speaker 1: and 112 and two-thirds innings. He held opponents to a
- 12:52Speaker 1: 2-29 average and a 3-47 slugging. Outside of Cade Cavalli,
- 12:58Speaker 1: the Nationals seem to have some serious starting pitching with
- 13:02Speaker 1: Andrew Alvarez. He was bouncing out of the bullpen earlier
- 13:06Speaker 1: in the season and then sort of just slotted into
- 13:09Speaker 1: the rotation. And the rest of the second half was history.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Talk about, I guess, how he has earned the opportunity
- 13:16Speaker 1: to come back next season.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Yeah, you nailed it.
- 13:20Speaker 2: He was someone where they barely trusted him two times
- 13:22Speaker 2: through the order through I want to say the end
- 13:25Speaker 2: of July, whether, again, that was in AAA or up
- 13:29Speaker 2: in the big leagues. Once Foster Griffin was dealt and
- 13:33Speaker 2: someone who I should say had a big impact on
- 13:35Speaker 2: Andrew Alvarez's career in terms of game planning, preparation, mentality,
- 13:40Speaker 2: things of that nature, I think served him well. Yeah,
- 13:45Speaker 2: he was dynamite down the stretch. The walks are still
- 13:48Speaker 2: a big concern. I know he's striking out a batter
- 13:51Speaker 2: in inning, but I know the Nationals have a plan
- 13:54Speaker 2: to help Alvarez add velocity this offseason and they believe, hey,
- 13:59Speaker 2: if he's sitting, you know, 94, 95, honestly, instead of,
- 14:04Speaker 2: you know, 91 and a half, 92 and a half, 93,
- 14:09Speaker 2: just that extra tick of velocity could unlock his fastball.
- 14:13Speaker 2: It could unlock everything else in his game. He has
- 14:16Speaker 2: two breaking pitches that I know he was a little
- 14:19Speaker 2: wary heading into the season to throw consistently. Um, and
- 14:23Speaker 2: ever since he started doing it consistently became that sort
- 14:27Speaker 2: of pitcher, the nationals needed him to be, um, you know, I,
- 14:31Speaker 2: I think that he has close to locked up a
- 14:33Speaker 2: spot in next year's rotation. Um, maybe not to the
- 14:37Speaker 2: same degree that Cavalli and early have, um, but it
- 14:41Speaker 2: is at the very least penciled in there. Um, and that's, that's,
- 14:44Speaker 2: you know, important for a nationals team that I'm still
- 14:49Speaker 2: trying to figure out what I think about their starting
- 14:51Speaker 2: pitching depth. I feel like as a reporter, maybe I
- 14:53Speaker 2: should have a better handle on this. But I know
- 14:56Speaker 2: they have two really solid pieces at the top. I
- 14:59Speaker 2: know they have, you know, five to seven interesting-ish arms.
- 15:05Speaker 2: And I say interesting-ish meaning interesting, but I don't know
- 15:08Speaker 2: if they're ready in the back end. And then Alvarez
- 15:10Speaker 2: is kind of right in that middle. So, yeah, I
- 15:14Speaker 2: think he definitely has to be back with the way
- 15:16Speaker 2: that he pitched this year, the results. Yeah. But I'm
- 15:19Speaker 2: really fascinated to see what happens when he gets a
- 15:23Speaker 2: little more velocity because I think that that would be
- 15:25Speaker 2: a game changer.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Yeah. And as you mentioned there, after the trade deadline,
- 15:30Speaker 1: he got a lot more time in the rotation and
- 15:33Speaker 1: really had an incredible August. Finished that month with a
- 15:35Speaker 1: 245 ERA. Just couldn't get any run support. 0-3 record.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Really couldn't get much run support down the stretch. Hopefully
- 15:42Speaker 1: that changes going into next season. The final candidate we
- 15:46Speaker 1: are going to talk about for returning to next season's
- 15:48Speaker 1: roster are going to jump over to the bullpen. It
- 15:50Speaker 1: is Yovani Cruz. He was acquired in the Luis Garcia Jr. trade.
- 15:55Speaker 1: He picked up his first career saved on September 23rd
- 15:59Speaker 1: and provides some serious swing and miss with high VLO
- 16:02Speaker 1: at the back end of the bullpen. He also features
- 16:04Speaker 1: a slider-splitter combo. I think it is just a matter
- 16:08Speaker 1: of the control with him, Spencer, but he could be
- 16:11Speaker 1: serious swing and miss stuff in the late innings for
- 16:13Speaker 1: the Nationals next season.
- 16:15Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about this with him pretty regularly
- 16:19Speaker 2: down the stretch, asking him about his fastball command, which
- 16:22Speaker 2: got better in AAA, and asking him about his mentality,
- 16:26Speaker 2: which I think also got better in AAA, right? He
- 16:30Speaker 2: wasn't able to put his finger exactly on why, but
- 16:33Speaker 2: did find the transition after the trade difficult, just again
- 16:39Speaker 2: because of moving over to a new org, being asked
- 16:44Speaker 2: to do, if not different things, at least doing them
- 16:47Speaker 2: in a different.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Sphere, space, so to speak.
- 16:52Speaker 2: But once he did kind of lock in, you saw
- 16:53Speaker 2: in that Tigers series, for instance, if I'm remembering correctly. Yeah,
- 17:01Speaker 2: just kind of had it. And however you phrase that,
- 17:07Speaker 2: you know, I don't know exactly how to maybe put
- 17:09Speaker 2: in better words than that.
- 17:11Speaker 3: Um, but no, it felt like a, at least a seventh.
- 17:14Speaker 2: Inning guy, if not better because he's throws a hundred
- 17:17Speaker 2: because the slider is even better, um, because the splitter
- 17:21Speaker 2: is coming along, but the stuff is nasty. Um, it
- 17:24Speaker 2: is just kind of a mentality thing. But again, I
- 17:26Speaker 2: think that that is best learned, um, in the big leagues. And, um,
- 17:30Speaker 2: I should be crystal clear about this. I don't think
- 17:32Speaker 2: he needs to learn this and like a ninth inning
- 17:34Speaker 2: rule at the start of the year. I still think
- 17:36Speaker 2: the nationals need to go out and sign at least
- 17:39Speaker 2: two back end arms. in the back of their bullpen.
- 17:42Speaker 2: But if you slowly, you know, transition Cruz up, Hey,
- 17:45Speaker 2: here's your sixth inning guy who is, you know, blowing
- 17:49Speaker 2: the doors off someone who throws a hundred or getting
- 17:51Speaker 2: a starting pitcher out of trouble. Oh, he's, he's graduating
- 17:54Speaker 2: from that to the seventh from that to the eighth.
- 17:57Speaker 3: And then you kind of figure it out from there.
- 18:00Speaker 2: But has the, the, just the look and the stuff
- 18:03Speaker 2: of a big league.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Back end reliever.
- 18:06Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I think that he kind of has
- 18:08Speaker 2: to be, In that bullpen, even if there were some
- 18:10Speaker 2: people that might disagree and say, hey, he's best suited
- 18:14Speaker 2: off in AAA, I wouldn't see it that way.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see him come back and get
- 18:20Speaker 1: some innings in next season's Nationals bullpen. I want to
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- 18:47Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to throw in today's
- 18:49Speaker 1: episode before we head out?
- 18:52Speaker 2: No, I think that's all I got. Um, again, there
- 18:55Speaker 2: are so many fringe cases on this roster. Um, I'm
- 18:57Speaker 2: going to start to do some 40 man math over
- 18:59Speaker 2: the next couple of days, see what we've really got cooking. Um,
- 19:03Speaker 2: but there are a number of players who are kind
- 19:05Speaker 2: of on that bubble. And I think the five that
- 19:07Speaker 2: we just named, whether or not they're on the bubble have,
- 19:10Speaker 2: have earned a spot to, you know, be on the,
- 19:12Speaker 2: I should say the active roster, the 26th man next year.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Well, we look forward to, uh, The next installment where
- 19:21Speaker 1: we will go through five players who are not going
- 19:24Speaker 1: to be returning or in our eyes maybe should be
- 19:26Speaker 1: returning to AAA, have some more they need to work on,
- 19:29Speaker 1: develop on before next season. But enjoy the MLB postseason, everybody,
- 19:34Speaker 1: and take care of yourselves. See ya.