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The homosexual abuse cult within Christian college culture that inspired his screenplay, The Immortals · Tom Althouse Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: So you're looking for a photo of or a connection
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: of doctor Harry Sova and the motor home. I'll call
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: it for today because I don't want to dive into
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: it scenario and how we can connect that to Pat Robertson.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: So we put through over here on Claude because Claude
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: is fun. Can I find a photo of doctor Harry Sova,
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  Speaker 1: who we know? I know when I started talking to
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  Speaker 1: you that he was still at Liberty University as communications
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  Speaker 1: I believe department chair director, right, and this was in
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: like twenty two three, right, So it comes back and
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  Speaker 1: it says I found a fair amount about doctor Harry
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: Silva's teaching career. He's communications and advertising professor with long
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: varied background. He studied at University of Wisconsin, Madison, Indiana University,
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  Speaker 1: and Ohio University, and then taught his first semester at
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  Speaker 1: cal State Fullerton before leaving academia to run a Christian
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  Speaker 1: advertising agency with clients like Disney Hotels, Campus Crusade, and Carrier.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what Carrier is? No? I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what Carrier is. I know what Campus Crusade is.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have you yes? I do. Had some bad
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  Speaker 3: run ins with them. Do you want to talk about
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  Speaker 3: that Disney though, Disney, That's incredible because I mean, there's
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  Speaker 3: so much going on here. Disney was where he took
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  Speaker 3: his motor home and allegedly had his first victim, Dedie Henderson,
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  Speaker 3: where he had sexual involvement, salt whatever at Disney World.
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  Speaker 3: So and Disney also, I did the professors from CBM
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  Speaker 3: on a trip. Gradus paid for trip after I was
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  Speaker 3: thrown out after the assault on me by Harry Silves,
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  Speaker 3: repeat offender. They allowed him to take his motor home
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  Speaker 3: down to Disney and all the professors that were involved
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  Speaker 3: in the cover up got to go to Disney World
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  Speaker 3: on Michael Eisner's ticket. So of Disney. So it's just
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, So now we see you because pat Robertson, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: sex rings connected between Disney and pat Robertson.
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  Speaker 1: So to the people like on on on threads, they say,
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: where did I get just dropped off? If you're just
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: tuning in. Tom Wildhouse wrote the screenplay for The Matrix.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: He had a scenario that caused him to have enough
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  Speaker 1: trauma to write that we're discussing the roots of that trauma,
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  Speaker 1: and that trauma was he was a student at it
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  Speaker 1: was Regent University.
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  Speaker 3: Right, well, at the time was CBN University. They changed
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  Speaker 3: the name theater, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And CBN And so Pat Robertson is connec to the
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  Speaker 1: CBN and Regent University network.
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  Speaker 3: How well, he's the executive everything of it. His family
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  Speaker 3: owns it, so he's like, yeah, he's the one that
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  Speaker 3: created it, owns it everything. Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network,
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  Speaker 3: it's like up there with the christ Cathedral everything else.
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  Speaker 3: He's like the leading or was the leading televangelist.
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  Speaker 1: And he had televangelism because he had seven hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Club right, that's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, Andy ran for president m hmm twice.
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  Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty eight. He was he put the bid
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  Speaker 3: in and that's when I was at his university and
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  Speaker 3: at his network, and he was grooming me to be
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  Speaker 3: the face of the Christian Coalition to help that succeed.
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  Speaker 3: But instead I was taken on a trip by doctor
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  Speaker 3: Harry Silva, who told me all in his motor home
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  Speaker 3: to DC, told me all about the sex ring. I
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  Speaker 3: was roofed there, assaulted everything because he said he thought
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  Speaker 3: I was gay because I had a beard and I
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  Speaker 3: was in the drama department, so he thought I was
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  Speaker 3: gay on that trip, spilled everything to try to get
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: me to go along with it, saying that that's where
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  Speaker 3: it comes to. A Presbyterian church comes in, where he said,
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  Speaker 3: the pastor, David.
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  Speaker 2: Anderson, what you have on your website?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that whole resume that the pastor interim says,
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  Speaker 1: because the former pastors slept with Pat Robertson and we're
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  Speaker 1: talking a male.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, doctor, and that's why they call him Thomas A.
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  Speaker 3: Anderson and Matrix and so yeah, and so doctor Harry
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  Speaker 3: Silva was spilling all this on the organization. And that's
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  Speaker 3: why the interrogation scene actually comes from the president's meeting
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  Speaker 3: at Roberts's grad school, where I was called in to
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  Speaker 3: share what happened on the trip. And that's where the
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  Speaker 3: interrogation scene comes in, Matrix, because they were grilling me
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  Speaker 3: to know exactly what I learned from Sova on that trip.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't care about the sexual assault. They only cared
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  Speaker 3: about what did he tell you about the sex ring?
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  Speaker 3: What did he tell you about CBN? What do you
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  Speaker 3: tell you about Pat Roberson's involvement? What do you tell
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  Speaker 3: you about And when I mentioned Kensl Presbyterian Church. I
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  Speaker 3: was finished. They didn't want that ever to come out.
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  Speaker 2: It shows the organization of it, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: And I yelling that's what you know. Harry Sova had
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  Speaker 3: said on the trip, you tell anybody, we'll both go down.
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  Speaker 3: Well he made sure I went down, even though I
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  Speaker 3: was ordered to attend this meeting and say what was shared?
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  Speaker 2: So let's so let's pause there. This was what year?
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  Speaker 3: This is nineteen eighty eight?
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  Speaker 1: And this is so you had you had your motor
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  Speaker 1: home and roofie rape experience in what year?
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  Speaker 3: And Cherry Hill Trailer Park.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in Washington Street Hill Trailer Park, you said, and
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  Speaker 1: that's on the outskirts or in DC?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you say?
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  Speaker 3: Drop?
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  Speaker 1: And is this a Did you know at the time
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  Speaker 1: that this was something other people had said after it
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  Speaker 1: happened to you, or had you heard anybody else?
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  Speaker 3: El, I had no idea there was a sex ring
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  Speaker 3: going on. I had been Silva on the trip told
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  Speaker 3: me about this. Robert Shield, Bob Shiel, who was a
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  Speaker 3: former Catholic priest. You know, talk about stereotype, but he was.
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  Speaker 3: He said that Bob Shiel had had me at his
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  Speaker 3: pool parties and things like this, and was giving me
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  Speaker 3: positions in news sighted CBM because he wanted me to
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  Speaker 3: be his boy in that sex ring. And Harry Silva
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  Speaker 3: was explaining this to me on the trip and said,
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  Speaker 3: now he'd be so mad that you're my boy. And
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  Speaker 3: he said that you know this basically that's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: He talked about how this faculty would go to hot
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  Speaker 3: tub things and the women were nothing to look at,
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  Speaker 3: there'd be naked parties in the hot tub, and that
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  Speaker 3: I was being brought into this sex ring. So he
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  Speaker 3: was going to have me be his and only those
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  Speaker 3: students that were going to be attached to certain professors
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  Speaker 3: in this capacity would make it. Because Robertson's organization was
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  Speaker 3: going to be revealed because this Kempsville Presbyterian Church pastor
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  Speaker 3: coming forward and revealing to his congregation that the sex
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  Speaker 3: ring existed, that he had had sex with Pat Robertson,
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  Speaker 3: and the president of c University then changed to Regent
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  Speaker 3: University after I had come forward. So what's interesting is
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  Speaker 3: this they got away with conjoling or getting the congregation.
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  Speaker 3: It comes hill not to talk because David Geyertson, the
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  Speaker 3: pr person for Pat Robertson, was put in charge as
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  Speaker 3: an interim pastor of that congregation for a whole year.
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  Speaker 3: The pr person was in charge to make sure that
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  Speaker 3: the congregation ever talked by telling him they would drag
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  Speaker 3: the church for the Mud if it ever got out.
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  Speaker 3: David Anderson was removed to Duck, North Carolina, and they
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  Speaker 3: called it a moral failure. In Geyerson's resume, it reads
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  Speaker 3: that the pastor conducted a moral failure, I guess by
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  Speaker 3: coming forward to his congregation and confessing. So they finally
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  Speaker 3: found after a year someone to keep its quiet and
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  Speaker 3: keep it going and have these sessions where congregations would
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  Speaker 3: be meeting different people, even the kids, to realize how
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  Speaker 3: important it is never to share about what David Anderson
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  Speaker 3: shared his congregation, which is really wild because then you
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  Speaker 3: see how it becomes Thomas A. Anderson and the matrix.
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  Speaker 3: After Robertson did not want my screenplay that was whispering
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  Speaker 3: through art about my experiences, as you said, with that
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  Speaker 3: president's meeting, the sexual assault, all that stuff. That's why
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  Speaker 3: at Warner Brothers, Wachowsky stuck in Thomas A. Anderson because
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  Speaker 3: of David Anderson, who was the pastor, tied our names together,
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  Speaker 3: which goes back to the sexual assault where Sova told
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  Speaker 3: me everything about the sex ring. That's rubbing it in
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  Speaker 3: my face as the author. So to find out that
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  Speaker 3: he had these kind of connections with Disney all along
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  Speaker 3: is mind blowing because so connections with Disney.
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  Speaker 2: This is where this is where because he.
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  Speaker 3: Had said they shared the sex ring. He said that
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  Speaker 3: Sva said that Disney was part of it. With Robertson's organization,
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  Speaker 3: they trade, they were connected.
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  Speaker 2: How is Disney and Warner Brothers connected at that time? Ah.
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  Speaker 3: What Robertson did was he had through David Geyerson. If
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  Speaker 3: you look at David Gardson's resume, he has all these
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  Speaker 3: mentoring projects and positions out in California Hollywood. So he's
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  Speaker 3: got not only his PR person in charge of the
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  Speaker 3: cover up of the sex rang through Dave, through that
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  Speaker 3: Chemstville Presbyterian Church confession covering that up. He's also using
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  Speaker 3: his Robertson as using his head of PR David Garrison,
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  Speaker 3: also to be the conduit in connection to Hollywood and Disney.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how these professors is actually this adjunct professor
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  Speaker 3: named ned Vankovic and his wife who was a model
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  Speaker 3: manager who took me under her wing after I lost
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  Speaker 3: every thing to manage with her or be an assistant.
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  Speaker 3: They got top positions at Universal Studios Story Development Department
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  Speaker 3: and Disney's Story Development Department because of that influencing connection
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  Speaker 3: between David Gartson and Disney, David garts in Universal Studios,
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  Speaker 3: David Gardson in all those other studios. But I never
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  Speaker 3: had the connection before that. You just discovered. That's just
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  Speaker 3: blowing me away that Sova also had that Disney connection,
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  Speaker 3: which makes it clear why they were able to celebrate
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  Speaker 3: the destruction of one more victim of that sex ring
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  Speaker 3: with a free trip by Eisner down to Disney with
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  Speaker 3: all those professors that were involved in those information meetings.
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  Speaker 3: They called it cover up meetings where you destroy the
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  Speaker 3: repetition of victims. They don't take any prisoners, They get
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  Speaker 3: rid of the victims and reward the perpetrators. That's how
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  Speaker 3: the sex ring works. That's why it thrives, and that's
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  Speaker 3: why you see at Jerry Falls Organization Liberty University, SILVA
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  Speaker 3: first plants there. They send him down there from Regent
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  Speaker 3: where the sex ring is also operating, which we saw
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  Speaker 3: with Jerry Folwell Junior. So this is a gay sex
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  Speaker 3: ring that also involves children and.
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  Speaker 1: Women, because well, yeah, I mean, so you've got Campus Crusade,
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  Speaker 1: which is your college age Disney which is every age
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  Speaker 1: family and everybody, and then I don't know what Carrier is,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, what you just pointed out, it's so important too,
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  Speaker 1: Jen for people listening too, is that you've got Disney
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  Speaker 1: and you've got what's the other one.
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  Speaker 3: You said Silva was involved with Crusade Crusade, so there's
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  Speaker 3: your link. It's a profile of a predator. And what
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  Speaker 3: happens is Campus Crusade Disney being on Sava's connection list
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  Speaker 3: like a predator fishing for the best spots the lake.
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  Speaker 3: He's bringing up possibly the connection between Campus Crusade and
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  Speaker 3: Disney with a sex ring. So that would be worth
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  Speaker 3: exploring the future, just how far that goes and how
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  Speaker 3: deep it goes, so because that would.
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  Speaker 2: Be very valuable. But do you know anything about was
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  Speaker 2: lifelog No? I.
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  Speaker 3: What I do know is that there was a Sova
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  Speaker 3: sex products line because I looked up Silva's name and
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  Speaker 3: it came up with a Sova, which is a very
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  Speaker 3: unique name sex products, which I would not put past Sova.
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  Speaker 3: It could be a miss. It could be a tunnel
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  Speaker 3: without the gold in it, but there could be that
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  Speaker 3: connection obviously between him there well and the.
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  Speaker 1: Way that searching works for for like marketing perspective on
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  Speaker 1: that to bridge to the everyday person who's just thumbing
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  Speaker 1: and did Google on their phone. If someone types in
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  Speaker 1: Sova and sex ring into into Google and that pops
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  Speaker 1: up and they don't go any farther, they could potentially
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  Speaker 1: drive traffic that if you're talking or if somebody else
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  Speaker 1: mentions him, they could drag traffic to be like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, this is already public. Everybody knows this apparently,
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, it's no big deal and sign off
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  Speaker 1: after one Google circle. So sometimes you know how sham
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  Speaker 1: companies are made in towns and things like that and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: there's sham websites, people profiles, search results loaded in for
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  Speaker 1: this purpose alone. Because if you mentioned that doctor Harry Siva,
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  Speaker 1: which if people are googling him, he'll have a professor
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  Speaker 1: rating of like five stars. He's amazing, he's an amazing communicator.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody loves him.
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  Speaker 2: He's awesome, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But they did wipe him off of the Liberty University site.
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  Speaker 1: He was on there when you and I were talking originally,
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  Speaker 1: but they wiped him off there now, so he's.
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  Speaker 2: Not on there now.
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  Speaker 1: You and find it in old newsletters that he was there,
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  Speaker 1: like you're saying, right, But it wasn't until like you know,
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  Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty three that they stopped promoting him
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  Speaker 1: on their own sites of how amazing he was as
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  Speaker 1: a current professor or department chair.
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  Speaker 3: When did Jerry Fowwell Junior get exposed?
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  Speaker 2: That is that's when I was talking about a multi layered.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was talking about him being down there
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  Speaker 3: and they would want to shoot him out probably at
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  Speaker 3: that point. What's interesting I discovered last night that David
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  Speaker 3: Geyerdson uh was starting out on his resume at Taylor University.
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  Speaker 3: And what's happened now is that doctor Harry Sova is
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  Speaker 3: listed at Taylor University. So you got the head of
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  Speaker 3: the cover up of the sex ring, David Geyerdson on
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  Speaker 3: his resume, who said about the chemistal Presbyterian Church taking
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  Speaker 3: over the covered up, then ends up at Taylor. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: sov ends up at Taylor. So this is direct like
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  Speaker 3: a director of the sex rank cover up is getting
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  Speaker 3: Sova to his institution. He was president of so David
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  Speaker 3: Gerson was the president executive officer chief executive officer of
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  Speaker 3: Taylor University. So you see how they keep this shepherding
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  Speaker 3: system going within the sex ring mechanics workings in their workings.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's intriguing. Yeah, that's intrigued.
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  Speaker 1: So that that makes sense then, because this is showing
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  Speaker 1: I know there were issues with fallwell earlier, but this
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  Speaker 1: is showing between like twenty twenty and twenty five there
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  Speaker 1: was legal downfall and not. What I'm saying is they
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  Speaker 1: wiped doctor Silva from Liberty site roughly around twenty three
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, and that was right around the time you
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  Speaker 1: started talking on like the Awake Nation and Michael, is
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  Speaker 1: it is it right?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you've talked everywhere about that pretty publicly since then.
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  Speaker 3: They'd have to scoot him. They'd have to scoot him
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  Speaker 3: out of there quickly, because remember I think you discovered
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  Speaker 3: that he was not listed on the public page of
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  Speaker 3: communication professors at Liberty University. We started talking about it,
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  Speaker 3: and then what we find is that if he searched
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  Speaker 3: him individually, his ego kept him on a listing separate.
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  Speaker 1: It was in like newsletters and different things that were
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  Speaker 1: like printed publications under a different you know, so you
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  Speaker 1: have to search far, but he'll be listed as department chair,
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  Speaker 1: professor something. And then there's also, like I said, the
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  Speaker 1: teacher RD, a teacher site that are all over the
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  Speaker 1: world on all different kinds of domains, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that they can grab all of them. He's listed
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  Speaker 1: on many of those as a rate my professor and
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  Speaker 1: they're all phenomenal reviews as far as I've seen. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: of course it makes and they leave those in the
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  Speaker 1: SEO results so that old results that come up of
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  Speaker 1: him are all good or the other thing that you'll see,
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  Speaker 1: and then I want to dive back into your Disney
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  Speaker 1: connections and stuff. But the other thing that you'll see
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  Speaker 1: on searches is you'll see old good stuff about the
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  Speaker 1: person you're researching.
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  Speaker 2: And then you will see an athlete, a celebrity, or
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: a celebrity adjacent like wife, Mom's sister going through drama of.
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  Speaker 1: The same exact name. So it's a diffusion source. And
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying those aren't real, but when you go
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to research these things and what people are saying and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: what Tom is saying, before you throw a comment that says, well,
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  Speaker 1: I believe so, and so I have a question in
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  Speaker 1: the movie that we all know it's Thomas A. Anderson, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: why do we have a pastor from Virginia Beach claiming
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  Speaker 1: to have slept with Pat Robertson. That's bad enough, right, Christians? Like, like,
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  Speaker 1: that's bad enough, right, Christians, that's enough? And Anderson is
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  Speaker 1: the name in the movie. And Tom also claims that
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  Speaker 1: that happened, which is bad enough, right, Christians write people
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  Speaker 1: from like Liberty who well fall Well we got rid
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  Speaker 1: of him and it's still a great university.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, But what about the others? Like what about the Okay?
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  Speaker 2: But like it takes more than one.
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  Speaker 1: Person to cover up all those rumors, right, because when
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: we talk about the rumors you've got on your website
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: here in multiple places you talk about the matchups and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: how they've put Thomas Anderson your birthday and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand how all that can.
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  Speaker 1: Be in the movie that we all know if any
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  Speaker 1: of the other writers are true, because their stuff isn't
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  Speaker 1: in the movie.
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  Speaker 2: So, so, how did Warner Brothers who was working.
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  Speaker 1: With Disney, you said, and there's connections within their framework
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  Speaker 1: of their company at the time, you have the Lenny
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  Speaker 1: Coco connection, you have all of your stuff is in
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  Speaker 1: the actual movie, and you have a script that shows it,
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  Speaker 1: and you have.
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  Speaker 2: The connections of proving it, plus you have the trauma
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  Speaker 2: that wrote it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people that are saying that this is
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  Speaker 1: not the true story are paying attention to the plethora
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  Speaker 1: of evidence and how big this is, because what I'm
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  Speaker 1: understanding you say is that there was a pastor sex
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  Speaker 1: cult within the Christian Coalition of seven hundred club and
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  Speaker 1: all of that that was gaining young boys, young men,
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  Speaker 1: young girls of any kind of its campus crusade.
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  Speaker 2: I was there.
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  Speaker 1: Gaining connections to these people for decades and worse still
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  Speaker 1: doing that. Those are still things. He's still a good professor,
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  Speaker 1: their connections aren't. They haven't exploded yet, because you call
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  Speaker 1: this a conspiracy. And that's where I'm like, if we
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  Speaker 1: believe the Epstein files and it has to be released,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we need to pay attention to this because the Christian
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Coalition corruption, and Candace is touching on it, but she
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: won't go far enough, and and like people won't go
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: into the depth of the Christian corruption.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't think. I don't think I've
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: heard stories that are as.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: High level connected as yours that tie into I was
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: at a Christian university, I was on a good path.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I was being groomed by I think you've said the Masons,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: John Walsh, Hollywood.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Pat Robertson, the.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Whole network that he brings in with the seven hundred
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Club and the Professor network.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: You've exposed the ring. Now you've got the the Disney
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: connection in there. What more do people want from this?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Right? Plus there's the modeling, the modeling agencies. One of
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: the reasons that Roberson picked Virginia Beach was because of
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the model agencies. He had this thing where we had
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a professor in our class, in one of the communication classes,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and get this. He said that the main function of
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Robertson's CBN Christian Broadcasting Network really comes down to allowing
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: young males that are Christian, you know, probably not the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: most attractive or nourish, whatever, ending up hooking up with
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: models and marrying models. This idea smacks of a new
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: world order. It's like they want to have that the
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: beautiful woman with a Christian male and they call that success.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: And that's what this professor is actually said. He said
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: that this was the main function of CBN, which also
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Hytt harkens right to a horizon of the sex ring
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: again about wanting to have that gratification of having the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: most attractive woman, almost like a trophy wife's store. It's
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: like that's what he said was the biggest function was
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: hooking up these young Christian men where they become successful
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: in the careers that Robertson was grooming them for, along
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: with the beautiful wives that would then join in in
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: the process. And that goes back to that connection with
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Disney also where they wanted to have the Hollywood connection
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: with Robertson want that Hollywood connection where he would have
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: basically starlets with Christian men, and he thought that would
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: be the comment he made about Trump's wife where he said,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: you can see he's successful, look at his wife. So
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Robertson actually and his cronies actually had a fear of
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: beautiful women. So what they wanted to do was harness
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: that demic graphic where it became almost weaponized where you
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: had the young men would have the beautiful women, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: which also set up for the honeypot system where these
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: different Christian men then could be under the control and
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: also were to be grateful to Robertson for giving him
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the finest quality merchandise that happened to marry them. Their
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: view of women was very askewed. They were reflected in
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Dina Laurentis's approach to the Wachowskis when he said he
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: promised them fame, fortune and beautiful starletsis.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: And that's what you said. They promised you, right, they did.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And that's why that Christine girl when she came up
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and I was yeah, I was like, oh my god,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: this is an incredibly beautiful woman. But what's coming out
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: of her mouth at first meeting. I'm to be yours,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I'm to be with you. It's so indoctrinated into the
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: religious system where they used different scriptures about submission. The
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: women was to be submission submissive to their husbands. Well,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: they take a little step further where you it's almost
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: like the woman that's been selected to be with a
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: nerdy Christian male at the organization is to be submissive
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: pre engagement. You're to be submissive upon selection to be
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the male's cohort. So it's really interesting that they take
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it that far that women who's then they flash the
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: career card. They will have the finest food, they'll have
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the finest living accommodations, they'll be able to jet travel,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: limo service if you're with a top elevated Christian mail.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: In Robertson's organization, Robertson takes a little further where the
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: qualifications don't matter. It's loyalty. And you've seen this in
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: the Bush administration in the past, where one hundred of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Robertson's law students became part of the Bush administration legal team,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: including that weeping blonde girl that kept whining from university.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: It was number two to the guy who was in
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the head of the team for Bush in his administration.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: So what you've got is this idea that these people
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: are going to have great careers if the acquiesce, And
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: that's what happened on the trip with Siva. He said
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: that only those students that are accepting of the sex
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: ring and attached basically to the hip of certain professors
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: that are then soliciting them as if it's a stock trading.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: You know, you take the student you want that's attractive.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: That's why I was chosen at the time to be
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Silvia's grad student. So you're given a position, tie in,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: a job tie in to keep you compliant and to
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: accept the sex ring. But first you're flashed all the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: toys yea on your cover.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I was given keys to the motor home,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: all that stuff before I knew about the trip sex,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: before the sex ring, before I was told I was
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: going on this trip. I was given the keys to
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: the motorhome to use for my family and I when
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: whenever we wanted what a perk and promises of future,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: you know, glory and stuff like that, and positions, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: that's before you're approached. Then you're taking on a trip
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: like myself and d. D. Henderson were taken on trips
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: where then you have to pay the bill, you have
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: to give in and they accuse you of having given
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: off signs that you were homosexual or gay or a
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: swinger or things like that. They'll accuse you. And I
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: was accused that he thought I was. He went through
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: all the suspense and this trip to have a time
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: that we could just play, when I thought it was
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: for research, because he said that you have a beard
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: and you were enacting, and I'll show you the picture
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I just found. So it's like, you're not going off
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: of what I look like now, but that's what I
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: look like in when the trip. This is exactly right
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: around the trip, right before the trip, that's what I
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: looked like. So Sofa was saying, look, you're in the
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: drama department. I thought you were gay. You're in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: drama department and you're a beard. I don't know why
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: a beard would indicate somehow that I was must be gay.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know they call it that a bearded relationship.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: You'll have a wife and they call it that beard,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you know, but like it's not that. I mean, he
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: said that everyone stereotype, but he obviously was grooming people
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: from that network for that reason because he was stereotyping.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So does that mean he's picking on gay men.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Well, he's accusing even straight men of being gay or
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: not realizing they're gay, because how do you know? He
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: said on the trip, how do you know you're not gay?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: He said, how do you know you're not gay? When
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I said I'm not, he said one out of four
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: men are. He said, how do you know that you're
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: not gay? You're in theater. You have to be. He's
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: like grilling me, and I said I'm not, and so
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I said on that trip, I actually said, first thing
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I come to mind, to distance myself from this chaotic event,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: horrific event that was developing. Right away, I said, well,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: my problem is women. And I wasn't bragging. I was
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: just trying to put up a shield, you know. I
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: was like, and he got up from the table we
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: were sitting at. This is the first dialogue we're having
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: when we arrived and he crossed his arms. I remember, clearly,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: as clear as day, He's looking out the doorframe away
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: from me, going aren't you macho? Like that's an insult,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: and I'm like what. So then the rufie happened after
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: that because he was he's I guess he figured in
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: his mind that he went through all that expense that
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: somehow I fooled him, and I'm not going to get
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: away with that. Next thing, I was raped.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And it was when we say rufie. It's not like
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, you know, mad at you here? Take
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: this pill? It was probably was it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Why It was like a thing like, yeah, he gave me.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: He wanted to buy beers and stuff, but instead it
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: was water and things like that. And then the milk too,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: But there's a lot of things that went on with it,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and I remember being able to see what's going on,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: but not being able to move. I remember what happened,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and that's where I got the PTSD.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Well, and your body remembers and it completely.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: And just because they've knocked you out with a drug
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you don't have a conscience.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Remember one of the things.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you wake up with your clothes like greasy,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: you feel. I mean, just for those out there that
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: experience this kind of stuff and for a male to
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: who are you going to talk to? Right? And to
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: be called into a president's meeting. The first scene is
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: the carrigation scene, and it's like the things that they
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: said and what they were looking for and how they
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: said it, you know, was just like that scene what
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I wrote, which they first thing they made for the matrix.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: But one of the things you happens to you physically
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: is that I kept only being able to really ingest
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: stringent types of food, Like I kept eating pickles, pickled juice,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: anything that felt like it was sterilizing the mouth was
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: what I would keep experiencing. And you just kept gravitating
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: to something that would you almost wanted to drink liqu plumber.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: It's like you just had this and holy changes your
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: whole diet where you're like you just can't.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: How long did that affect you to this day?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a whole jar of huge pickles and
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: refrigerator and I even explained it to my mom my son.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: It's like I just can't eat certain foods I have to.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: It's never going to leave me. And then that's why
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: when you say, like, Sova's list is the nicest guy. Well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: there's a message I got from a person who just
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: did a conference named Nikki from CBM and she sent
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: me CBN at the time I was, and she sent
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: me a message saying that all the students knew that
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Robert or soph was guilty, and it's like right here
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: these message threads. She said that you know, everybody knew
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: a CBN, but no one did anything about it. No
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: one would help because they didn't want to lose those positions,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and that's how it goes down. So it's like that's
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: why no one talks about the sex ring as far
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: as relieving anything or solving anything, because they don't want
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: to lose their positions. And so the job connections is
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: what holds people in place from sharing anything at all.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: And that's why if you look at Jerry Fowell Junior,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: when the person said he was the poolboy and that
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: he was brought in to watch Fallwell Junior, you know
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Fallble Junior was going to watch him have sex with
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: his wife. That is not it at all. The way
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: the system works is that the pool boy is having
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: sex with Jerry Fowell Junior and the positions keeps him compliant.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: And that's what the jobs is what they do. So
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they pass these jobs around. But it's not about quality,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: it's about I mean abilities, it's about loyalty and looks
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: and so what really probably happened with Jerry Foble Junior
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: is he had sex with the pool boy guy and
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: the positions kept him compliant and the wife. It wasn't
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: the pool boy with a wife. The egos of these
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: guys wouldn't allow that. It would be Jerry Fobell Junior
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: having sex with pool boy. That's how this whole structure
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: works with the sex ring, and that's why they would
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: take Harry Sova down to Liberty University. It's another predator
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: ground which raises the question is Taylor University experiencing a
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: sex ring. Also, I would bet you know sillions of
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: dollars that that's exactly what's going on. If you're going
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: to move to a place where the predator feels at home,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Taylor University would be that home.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I would venture to say that ninety nine percent of
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: students that go to a Bible college or of the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: vulnerable stature as opposed to a regular university student who's
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: already in a vulnerable space. But then you've got him
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: in charge of campus crusade, which brings Christianity to the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: university aspect in large mass. So basically they've weaponized the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Christian draw and then hidden homosexuality torture behind it, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: then criminalized so drastically anything homosexual so that it drives
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a public wedge between Christianity and the community, so that
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: there's no support, no understanding. So I imagine that something
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: that happened to you, if it happened to other people
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: in that era, it's probably a caalyst over wound right
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: now because of how much propaganda has been thrown on
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: top of all of that. And it does doesn't feel
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: like a safe space to say that anywhere you mentioned
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like Jerry Folwell and things. I've brought that up because
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I was groomed to go to Liberty and the people
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that went to Liberty and discussed liberty and I went
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: to Liberty with they all go yeah but and I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: don't have that understanding. There's no yeah but understanding with this.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: If you are operating in God's word and you say
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you are operating out of God's word and you are
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: or your group body of people doing this under employment,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: are doing something that's harmful to people, you are not
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: operating out of God's work.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: What would Jesus do?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Would he flip the table or go it's okay, people
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: have gotten saved at your Jars of Clay concerts.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think Jesus feels that way.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And I think they've weaponized this so oh strategically with
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the gay movement, the LGBTQ, pride division, Christianity weaponization. There's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: no support and then something like this happens. There's gonna
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: there's no there's no level of understanding for the everyday person.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you're saying that the pat Robertson called
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: rape to you. Waite a minute, you're saying that Warner
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: brothers stole your screenplay that you wrote.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Because of that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you're saying that the Masons were involved
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: in John Walsh and America's Most Wanted and wait, like
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: there's no level of understanding, because there's a basic Google
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: search for every single one of those situations that goes
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: he was.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: A great guy.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Mm hm.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: They were great people. They do really great work. They
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: give really good amounts of money to Toys for Tots.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what Darlene Graves, who was at those
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: meetings that got to have that trip to Disney, she
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: had said on that one trend script we have when
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: a housemate had interviewed her or talked to her, you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: she said, so it was this wonderful man. They use
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: the over the top descriptions all the time. And one
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: of the questions I would raise is why people like myself,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: why wouldn't be talking about this? This certainly isn't going
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: to make us popular to speak about this. It's certainly
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: not going to get us advancement to talk about this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: If anything, shame and distance from people. So why would
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: we bring this up? Because it happened, and because this
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: happens to others That's why we're going to bring it
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: up and continue to bring it up. Because if I
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: wanted to get popular or get a following that would think, oh,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Tom's so great, I certainly wouldn't pick this topic in
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: order to elevate myself because I'm lowering myself just by
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: talking about it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And so wouldn't pick torture.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't pick a narrative of torture or were creative
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: enough that they stole your work and you had already
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: been working and you can do other things and have
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: done other things. This would not be the logical choice
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of career paths if it's not true, and you wouldn't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: be to this day having the ptsdct PTSD, whoever symptoms
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that you're describing, if that didn't happen, and you wouldn't
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: have letters.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Let me while I'm.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Discussing this for you know, you wouldn't have letters from
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: all of them about it. Where did we put that
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: we put that, I think it was in here. You
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: would not have letters from Pat robertson the school. You
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have had to submit your script to George Michael
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to ask if his song could be at the end
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: credit of this very powerful script that you wrote and
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: he says, yeah, sure, go for it, or something like that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: He said, yeah, send it in, we'll see where it goes. Yeah.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: But none of that, none of that would have happened
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: if all of these you know, you have all of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the pieces of this actually happened.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: So I don't I mean, I'm going to move past
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the fact that is this true?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Is this not? Clearly you have enough dots that show
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I don't understand how anybody could believe another writer wrote
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: that series. So now we have to go forward into
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: why did they do this to you? Why did they
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: do this to America? Because that series was weaponized against Americans?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Why did they do this to the Christian networks? And
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: is this all still happening today?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: It looks like it it is. And that's the thing
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: is that look at their response you just raise this up,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: is they don't act like, oh, how can we help,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: or you know, do you really believe this happened. They
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: become immediately hostile and they say crazy, dangerous, have these
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: meetings saying it make sure you lose your education, make
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: sure you is your jobs, make sure's your connections, and
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: they never stop. It's like that indicates wrong parties, treating
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: wronged parties endlessly because they're afraid of something coming out
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: or people believing them. That's why the work's stolen. The
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: work is stolen so that you will never have influence
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: or a voice that your story actually comes true and
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it's actually inspected and the evidence inspected. Also, they don't
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: want that degree a scrutiny to happen.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: So you're crazy greeting me, the humiliation rituals, the you're
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: showing the whole pattern, the whole playbook, the whole how
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: right right, And that's and then and then they've created
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the environment where you So you've got this on your website.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: If anybody wants to go through, I'm showing at the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: bottom of so on Tom Oldhouse dot com. On the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: bottom of the blog. You can go right into the blog,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: says he brings the receipts. All of it is listed anywhere.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: It says. Watch the presentation.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm in right now, so you can go in,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: pause it yourself, read through everything he's discussed it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: All this is we have this in this presentation, Tom,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: we did this.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, I've done.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: You've got all of your documents.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and why would we continue to bring it forward
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: because it may just do some good. They prey upon
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: empathetic people, mpaths, They pray upon them because they feel
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: they're safe for targets, because they even Harry silv on
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the trip said the reason the Ring is operating out
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: of a church structure because the church is supposed to
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: be about love, and therefore they can get away with
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: it in that kind of setting. And so they prey
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: upon people that actually they use their faith against them, saying,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: you're going to drag the church for the Mud. That's
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: what they use to chemcel a presepiarian church's congregation. Don't
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: speak about this, or you'll drag the church for the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Mud quote the like to use that phrase. And the
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: same for the victims. While they're giving promotions to the perpetrators,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: repeat offenders such as Harry Sova, Bob Sheiel, and the rest,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: and pat Robertson himself. You know, they are elevated, like
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: you know, pun intended, but they're elevated within the organizations.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Those under pat Robertson that are predators. And that's to
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: keep the ring intact status, keep them happy, keep them satisfied,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: and only go to the next victim, and it could
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: be a child next time. And this goes right to
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: the Epstein files and everything else. Why to go on
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: so long? And what do the perpetrators do? Let's not
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: talk about it. That's old news. They always use this
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: at PROD Robertson's organization also, just like current administration, they'll go, well,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: that's past, that's old history. We don't need to discuss that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: They keep trying to use the idea of time immediately
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: after an event, saying we were moved on beyond that. Now,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: you know, let's just not hurt people's lives. These wonderful men,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: these wonderful women, Let's not hurt their lives or their
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: families' lives by dredging this up. And we see this
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: going on and on, which is a clear indicator of
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: sexual predators.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: That's how they continue.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: When we don't dredge it up, when we don't put
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: a predator behind bars, they keep predating.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: That's the hunt, that's the ripe of them.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: That's why these predator tasks force are so popular, because
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they're letting people know who these are in public, that
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: they're not doing anything bad enough to be put behind
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: bars for a long time, so they're habitually offending more
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and more.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing that I'm.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Seeing is that it's the people that these public facing
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: predator tasks force are finding their older white men predating
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: on fifteen year old boys, young boys, teenage boys on
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: dating apps. So you've got they're still doing like a
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: homosexual reach from this same type of abuse structure. It's
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: just which which is the lead magnet. Is it campus crusade?
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Is it the college you paid to go to. Is
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: it a dating app that you get in because you're embarrassed.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things happening that are very similar
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to what you're discussing. And when you say they covered
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it up, Pat Robertson says right here in this letter
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to your wife on January tenth, nineteen eighty nine, I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: will not tolerate homosexuality at CBN or CBNU, nor will
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I tolerate any unfairness towards students, faculty, or employees.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: And then he refers you to a counselor because you
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: must be crazy.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He says that I was abused as a child
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: and was the other one who abuses the child, and
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: some on the carriage.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: By his own words, he keeps a firearm.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it says trusted people say that your husband
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: reported that he was a b he used as a child,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and that, by his own words, he keeps a firearm.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: The word is that he was requested to take counseling
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: from a spiritually mature counselor so.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: So someone says, hey, your professor did this to me.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Here's this that I know.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And the chairman of the board CEO sends a letter
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: to your wife that says, eh, we don't tolerate that here,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: but also, your husband's dangerous. He needs to seek help
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: right one, and we can do anything we want now
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: because we've labeled you as dangerous.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Yep. And then he's trying to get the wife to leave.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: He's not responding to me. He's responding to her, writing her.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And when I had sent this letter saying could you
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: help us with this, he's writing her, not me. So
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: way to divide, which is one of the tactics I used,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: was approach any love interest, any woman in my life,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: anybody that came into my life was approached and told
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: he's crazy and dangerous. The gun don't connect with him,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: just cut him off. We called called the Anonymousis, which
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: were former security guards. At first they would go.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: On a projet later on in here too, somewhere that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: they you had people that mentioned that they were chatting
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I don't want to jump the gun, it's okay, but
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: that's the thing.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And this letter right here was where they took
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: away the jobs and education and spun it like Eugie
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Nelson right there said that every line was carefully crafted.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: You know what it means. It's over. So that's like
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: expelling you from the school when you only have your
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: orls and coms to go for your master's degree. When
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: you're an a student you're.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Going to So this is actually I've got this in
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: here wrong. I have to put it back.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: But this is actually before Pat Robertson writes you. So
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that's right on October twenty first of nineteen eighty eight. Now,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: when did the motor home incident happen in eighty eight?
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: That I believe was, let's see August. I think it
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: was August eighty eight.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: You said it was hot and you were sweating.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in a campground. Did he take them out
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: of Cherry Hill? Cherry Hill trailer park in Washington, d C.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, never forget it, Like I'd like to know who
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: owns that and why that trailer park.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: He apparently he was saying, it'd be the closest to
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the library at Congress where we were supposed to be
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: doing the work on his called manuscript, and which is
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: very interesting because in the Library of Congress we went
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: one day and they said, we're just going to play.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Don't worry about the manage, We're just going to play.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: And how lonely he was, he started saying, after I said,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't this way, and that's where that
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: all was happening. But at the Library of Congress, the
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: only research he was having us do on his communications journal,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: which is his magnus opus or something. He said, this
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: thing was supposed to be a shorts on every communication
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: publication in the world. What a short what's that going
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: to do? A short little blurb on every communication? But
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: he had me go and request Playboy and Penthouse or
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: something like that. He was having request the Library of
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Congress these issues so he could explore them to see
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: what his blurb would say about these communication journals. It's unbelievable.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: So that's what you had to go to the Library
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: of Congress and make a request to remove these documents
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to check out, to have.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: These periodicals brought out. And I bring him to the
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: desk to him so he can do blurbs on these things.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: And he put in Playboy and it's like what And
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: then he said and later he said afterwards that I
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: was terrible at my job. What was his job to
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: carry the books to me from the Library Congress Central
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: area rerequest? So I did a terrible job of carrying books.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: So what's interesting about that is is it seems like
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: almost there's a planting stage. He has to plant evidence
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: ahead of time. Oh, it would look like you have
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: some sort of sex addiction or like I said, when
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: people do one Google search, if anybody with authority had
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: looked into this, they'd been like, well, he checks out
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: porn from the Library of the call.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I never made a connection. I never figured out why
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: he was doing that.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Just figured he was on puts it on your record,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: so for what needed it? Maybe he didn't actually need it.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, was writing this on your record?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: So people with porn addiction also.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Usually have like a or can can be utilized in
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: those they say, in those danger programming scenarios violence where
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: they could be activated a certain way. So I think
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of times when they look at any of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: those mass shooters things like that, they will go back
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and see what is the record, what did they.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Watch, what did they do? And so they'll have to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: have those, you know, lines of what was he involved in?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Well he watched this?
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Then that's what they try to turn around. They try
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: to say that I solicited him, so by having me
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: pull these journals out as if it's for his manuscript,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: he's having it set up that I'm the one into
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: sexual content on the trip and must have got lusty
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: somehow for this old, balding, ugly man fat man.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Which is very interesting to me because I'm not saying
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: that I know anything right, left or wrong about the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson case. But in a lot of these new discussions,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the big deal that they're throwing the book at Michael
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Jackson for is that a lot of these depositions or
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: discussions that the children had later that was hidden from
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the public was that they were brought into his room
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and in a secret safe there was and there's two
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: discussions that are trending right now, Playboy magazines or nambla book.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Do you know what, Naila, North American Boy Lover Association,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: the Torpedo Ring. I believe that might be behind that,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: like North Fox Island, stuff like that, and it's all
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's all the same cult. They just have different
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: names and avenues of generating their.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Leads. They're victims.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: So it makes me think that that there's another evidence
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that you're telling the truth because all of these dots
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: that are in your story are very, very very much
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I think showcasing a playbook that they need to do.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: And if you go back and watch it that way,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't it doesn't make sense logically thinking
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: as a Christian university that if somebody says, my professor
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: did this to me, that they would do this to
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: you unless they're covering something up. It would be embarrassing,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: it would suck for them. But if they were an
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: actual logistical, good, moral company, they would either hide it
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: and pay you and fire him, or they would be
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: public about it and fire him so that they people
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: know their stance. But they wouldn't do this to you,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and they did, so why did they do this giant
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: cover up with all these big names contacting you and
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: laying the foundation that your dangerous was the firearm. You
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: have a porn addiction. You're checking out porn from the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Library of Congress. You're in the you know, you're a
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: beard in the drama department, which be predatory. People call
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: that predatory. Now, so they've painted all of these avenues.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Did they ever invite you to any of those eyed
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: wide sit type parties or anything situations?
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was invited to the parties like Sofa it
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: said about Bob Shield's parties as pool parties. They call
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: it pool parties, which is interesting about the pool Boy
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: with Jerry Folwell, the pool parties are the main predatory
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: ground and that's what Sova was explaining on the trip.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: He said, you know, you didn't know that Bob Shield
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: was after you. You know, it's like, yeah, it's gonna
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: be so upset that now you're my boy. That kind
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: of stuff. That dialogue shows us that these pool parties
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: were their vehicle for approaching and also showing off the
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: boys that they had under their control. It's like the
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Emperor Kligla. It's like, you know, the one emperor who
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: said in Rome that his young boys were minnos referred
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: to most minnows and would swim with them in the pool.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: And it's like that's historic, you know, documented, and it's
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: like so, but also if you look at this letter here,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: this Elser letter, the signatories are Bob Slausser, Carl Hunt,
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: hints shown off these men were all there with Elser
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: and it was slawser and shown off were the ones
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: that were in the room with me and el Sir,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: I was told, and Carl Hunt were waiting in the
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: adjacent room listening in. As soon as the meeting ended,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: they crafted this letter. The very day of the meeting
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: was October twenty first, and so they came in and
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: crafted a letter which threw me out when they said
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I could keep my jobs in education. They kept this
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: letter were very careful, like you said, every word's carefully
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: every line's carefully crafted. And then I knew what it meant.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: It's over, and that's why it says you can't continue schooling.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: I was finishing my semester all you know, I was
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: just going to take finals, and they trase it that
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: you have to be two terms out to be outside
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: the school. They said that they were going to erase
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: my semester I was currently in where I just needed
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: my finals. They would keep me from using that as
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: if it was my idea, and then not allow me
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: to register for the next one. So in two days
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: they had basically classified me as two terms out, if
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: it makes sense, So a semester where I just need
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: finals and I want to register for the next semester,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: they're claiming I can't, and you're not gonna count the
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: one that I just need the finals on and all
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I need is my orals and comps. After this, they
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: shut my education out. This is how they carefully crafted it.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: But if you look at the SOVA letter that I
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: was never supposed to know and no one's ever supposed
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: to see, they're very upset about it because the same
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: signatories are on the SOFA letter. So if we go
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: to the SOFA letter, you'll see the same signatories on
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: the silver letter at the bottom. See it. So you've
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: got the same guys. Bob slawser Heine shown off, the
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: conducted the meeting like good cop. Bad cop shown off
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: was a bad one. He's actually from a Nazi family,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: he'd shown off. Didn't you have his green card? He
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: was at Hitler, youth Nazi, and so he's there as
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: the one grilling me like in a Gestapo interrogation. That's
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: why the interrogation is seen in the matrix. That guy
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: even had the voice like you want to be front
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: wright with us. It's it was a classic stereotype. And
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: then you've got these same signatories on Sova's letter that
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: no one's ever supposed to see this letter because is
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: he confessing about talking about homosexuality? Are they talking about
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: the drinks that he bought, the motor home going along
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: against being policy repeat offender. This letter's not supposed to
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: be seen because it says in my letter given to
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: me by E. Jana Elser, that I was totally mistaken,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: that it never happened. It's my word against his. This
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: letter's condemning Sofa.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: So he's basically blaming you for taking his RV and
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: having a sexual occurrence.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: With another student.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah he is.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: So he's saying it happened, and he's not saying that
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you weren't raped or in a sexual occurrence. He's not
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: saying you weren't in the RV. He's not saying any
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: of that didn't have any saying you took my RV
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: and did it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: And how dare you right?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: And see the letter right there where no one's ever
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: supposed to see this letter. No one's ever supposed to
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: see this letter. In fact, at the court, Silva confessed
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: to the stand that sure I did these things, Sure
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: I did. You know, professors need to be able to
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: protect themselves. He went off about these information meetings. In fact,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: my means and destroy my reputation and spread it all around.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: He said, yeah, I did, like Jack Nicholson and a
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: few good men. And what's wild is the actual attorney
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: that Tom Cruise represented and a few good men was
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: hired by the law firm at CBN. The law firm
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: that represented CBN had the attorney that Tom Cruise played
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: celebrating as this great guy, a few good men, as
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: a few worst men. He was actually on their legal team,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: allowing Sva to get away with it. And Silva does
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: an actual Jack Nicholson moan, confessing everything, screaming and yelling,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: and they couldn't stop them, so that the planted judge
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Jerry Friedman Jeremy Freeman stops allows them to stop the
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: testimony of Sova and go to lunch saying, let's not remember,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: you can't talk about it lunch and the attorney I
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: had said they were bent over Silva throughout the lunch
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: telling what to write. They came back into session after
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: lunch and they said Silva has a letter. He wants
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: to read what written at lunch. And then he says, okay,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: I'll allow it. Jerry Freeman says the judge, and he says,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: when I said this, I meant this. When I said this,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: I meant this. When I said this, I meant this.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: It was all carefully crafted, just like this letter. But
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: this letter was The judge said this letter would not
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: be entered for the jury, would not be entered into evidence.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Was going to leave it unread and unshown to the jury. Ooh,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: so we actually had one.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: And that shows a big collusion.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Big collusion because also they had the doctor Mansheim, who
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: was hired by Robertson and his team give it a
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: letter of instruction on what to say, right, and they
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: said they were going to go out of turn, out
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: of order. Where before they decided whether it be a
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: summary judgment on our case, they'd allow the doctor to testify.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Why would you allow the doctor to testify? If you
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: only have that happening if the case moves forward from
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: summary judgment, because they had also keep in mind the
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: only media that was allowed to be present was the
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Virginia Pilot writer who was a friend of the judge.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: He said, that's my friend. I want CBS, NBC, ABC,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: all them to leave, CNN all leave, now, all the
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: reporters leave. Only my friend from Virginia Pilot, Robertson's connected
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: magazine or newspaper can stay. And he wrote down what
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Paul Mansheim said out of order, that crazy and dangers
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: would on.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Le We've got that here. I'm trying to get to it,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: but I'm showing all of the there's doctors.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I knew I had it.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: There's doctor Sova screenshot on the website. They took it
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: off now, but he was on the website. So you
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: got that Doctor Manschiman here, hold on.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: You see this dodging and diving by them all the
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: time to race the evidence trail. So that's why I
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: believe it or not. Ned and Judy Nankovic, who bought
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: those positions at the story departments for both Disney and
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Universal Studios. I mean, that's the professor and his model
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: management wife on the East coast, ending up in the
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: top positions through David Geyerson on the West coast, so
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: they can receive my materials to send a Disney in Universal,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: both which got to Warner Brothers through them getting the
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: top positions. But they don't put it on their resume.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: How could these Judy and ned Nekovic get these top
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: positions they brag about in their letters to me with
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: a letterhead from Disney and everything else, and then not
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: put on the resume that they were in the story
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: development departments. Okay, yeah, that is yeah. Seemingly nothing is logical, nothing,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: nothing at all.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: This is the letter you were talking about, right with
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: that's the.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with letter of instructions letters doctor Paul man to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: test the validity of lay people using the term paranoids
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: and dangerous and crazy with a gun. What is that request?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: So, just in case I put this on audio, I'm
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: going to read this real quick. It says to doctor
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Paul Mansheim from Norfolk, Virginia, DA DA DA. Dear Paul,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: in follow up to your conversations with Glenn Huff, we
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: have set the independent medical examination of Thomas Altouse to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: occur in your office on January twentieth, nineteen ninety three,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: at two pm. The examination would focus on alt House's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: mental state and test the validity of lay people you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: using the terms paranoid, crazy, dangerous, and schizophrenic to describe
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: ald House. We have set January eleventh, nineteen ninety three
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: as the settlement deadline in the case. If the case
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: does not settle on that date, then we will have
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: to hand deliver to you copies of alt House's depositions,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: writings which he made during his dispute at with Regent University,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and a copy of the lawsuit to prepare you for
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: the examination. We will provide any other materials which you request.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Please contact us if you have any questions. Very truly yours,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Huffpool and Mahoney, Timothy Richardson. This is in Virginia, so.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: He's paid to do an assessment. He's paid to do it.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Roberson's requesting after a conversation of what they want, and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: he ends up with us huge. It's like eleven to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: twelve page response saying yeah, anything you want. Basically, he's crazy,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: he's dangerous, he hurt this wonderful man and whatever. Just
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: on and on it goes with everything they wanted so
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: that lay people. See Robertson had told his organization people
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: all the way down to go ahead and spread dangers
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: and crazy with the gun. So now he has to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: have it legitimized, which is just insane here where you're
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: basically saying, test the validity, allow people lay people to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: get away with slandering ould house as crazy and danger
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: as a gun in paranoid. Since I've already dictated it
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: to be done, now make it legitimate that it's okay,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: So it's not criminal. It's now cleared to be done
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: by a psychiatrist we paid to establish that lay people
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: can do this. It's legalizing slander.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is, Yeah it is. And it's showing
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: how they're going to where they're going to do it.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. I don't know if this existed anywhere else.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: And look at all the numbers the members of that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: law firm. And keep in mind, see that Barry Jenkins
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: card attached. Yeah, Pittman and Jenkins. Pittman and Jenkins. So
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Barry Jenkins was hand starting to handle our case when
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: he was partners with Pittman. See the card, and guess
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: who gets hired by the opposing firm after he's representing us.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Charles Pittman is on huff Pool Mahoney letterhead because they
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: hire him as a senior partner after Barry Jenkins is
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: representing me. They hired Charles Pittman to be on the firm.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: There's a letterhead right there, so that they'd have access
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: also to what they called the vault where all my
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: evidence was being under lock and key at a storage
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: facility that Pittman shared with Jenkins. And Jenkins told me
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: that yeah, it had been opened. Locke wasn't cut, just opened.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Pittman went there or had people sent and they pulled
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: the S file C file and the A file A
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: for all House c for CBN s FORSVA, and they
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: pulled all our evidence out and all our taped evidence
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: was taken from that lock up because they hired the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: partner of Barry Jenkins.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Is this the corrupt contract that we have on your
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: website for that later with Rankin that's.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Later that later. This is the first one with the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: CBN case where this guy Barry Jenkins approached or had
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: me come in and said, yeah, I deal with CBN
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: people all the time, I can handle this easily. And
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: then they did this whole thing where even his associate
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: joins in Bieber. There's a guy named Joins. He was
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: approached and told he needed to leave the firm. Barry
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Jenkins said, oh, he has to leave the firm because
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: of him handling your case. Then Barry Jenkins moves over
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: when Pittman's hired by the opposing firm, right, and I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: had to stare down with Pittmany followed me out to
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: the parking lot and stared me down as Charles Pittman
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: after we had the evidence that they need to get
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: rid of, taped evidence introduced to Barry Jenkins. What happens
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: is Barry Jenkins then gets to quote hang his hat
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: at Joins Joiner's place, joins in Bieber, joins in Bieber
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Ambulance Chaser place where he then has an office with them.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: And then when he needs to file the case to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: meet the deadline, he's called in by Joins and six
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: other members just called in and they're all sitting there
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: and he's asked, are you filing this today on with
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Tom Malthouse's case? Yes, does it involve Pat Robertson in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: any way? Well? Not right now? If you file this case.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: You're on the street with your hat, You're thrown out
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: of here, You're out. It was the deadline to file,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: so he filed it proper. Now Jenkins completely had sold
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: out and he's best friends with Charles Dandrids a Pittman,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: and he will not help me. And he never gave
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: me the court records because he said that he bought
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: it with his own money. He said he was going
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: to give it to me, and so all the proceedings
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: he kept sealed along with CBN. He was approached by
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: CBN attorneys at CBN and told if he did not
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: stop representing me then he would lose all Christian clients
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: in CBN area, and that included the Shepherd's Guide, which
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: is just how they do it. Yeah, that's how he
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: did it. He was also attacked by three men in
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: a crowbar. He's a black belt, but was attacked. He
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: was scared for his life and he said, I just
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: want to live through this. I'm scared, you know, almost
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: want to live through this. So he turned and sold
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: out and with his friend and started through the case.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: So that's that's how that went down. So he's hostile.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Now that's a lot of names that you would have
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: like if if they were to call on all of
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: these people, they would all have to lie in order
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: to cover up your story.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: And that's a lot. You've got all the pieces.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: And then they took what doctor, they took what pat
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Robertson was doing through Silva to portray you as dangerous.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Right, and they were bond has empathy for you. And
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: then they send you to counseling and ban you from
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: school until you get it, and then you anonymous.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: That's the other part of it what happened too, because
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: you just led me the trail there is that Heinz
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: shonen Off, the guy that was mocking me at that
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: President's meeting that became the interrogation scene, the impetus for it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: The guy that was mocking me there was then assigned
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Dina students and head of counseling but has no counseling degree.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Immediately after the meeting, and I was told that I'd
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: have to have counseling with a very guy that had
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: been putting me down at the meeting in order to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: do my education. But he wouldn't return the phone calls.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: So I finally called and said, look, I'm gonna go
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: ahead and register because I'm not getting a call back.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: He calls me immediately says, you will not register for classes.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: I said, well, what am I supposed to do? It said,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: what's the counseling sessions for? He says, for your obedience
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: and punctuality. He's not going to set them up because
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: you know what it means.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: So that's the closed loop.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, they needed a control, They needed to send
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: you to counseling, and then your counselor just doesn't never going.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: To schedule it, never going to schedule it, and mocking.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: And then that looks like you didn't schedule the counseling
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: and drop the bar exactly.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: They even played the game of the President's meeting where
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: they said when I was on a trip, they said,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: you got to appear today within the hour. They said,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I'm on a trip right now. How am I going
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: to make it? They said, I didn't attend the session.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Then they set up a session for a certain time,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: and then when it was time when I showed up,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: they said this was scheduled hours before, so they tried
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: to make it that I didn't sew up to it
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: on time, wasn't punctual, which goes back. It just occurred
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: to me, now Jen for the first time when he said,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: when I he answered, what the reasons were for the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: counseling was punctuality and obedience. Well, they made sure that
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be punctual. They made sure yeah, so this guy.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they set the stage for you to fail at
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: tests so that it looks like bad on every avenue
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: of your folder.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: And here's the other thing that's really interesting. I thought,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: you have an ex Nazi hitler youth Heinschenov who's in
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: charge of counseling for suits.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Not Christian University, at Christian.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: University talk about ah operation paper Club.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say, I mean, that's right. In that timeframe, So,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: so I.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Was given a Gestapo interrogation basically, and and.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: And they covered it with such tracks like they went
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: to great lengths to cover it. So it makes me wonder,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: are there other people that this happened to at that
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: school like.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: You that they went to this length?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, there were others that not this length though, no,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: not this length. What they did was often, uh, you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: were you were given offers a position. But because Sova
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: discussed specifically David Anderson at Chemstroll Presbytering Church. That's when
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I was dead. That's when I was dead at that
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: president's meeting when I brought that up, and they're saying
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: what else, what else? And the pencils only moving with
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: what Silva shared about the organization and what Roberson was
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: involved in the sex ring, and it's not moving about
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: what happened with me, any of the sex things happened
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: to me, no notes being made, And when I mentioned
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: about Kenispille Presbyterian Church, that was it. I'm dead, I'm finished.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: You've got to destroy crazy. And that's why the screenplay
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: had to be taken later that Roberson made sure that
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: was never going to see the light of day with
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: credit name credit for me, but orchestrated where it could
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: be sent to Disney by having Ned and Judy Nankovich
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: again coming up and saying, we want to help you.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: It's unfair what happened to you. The former Judas students
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: had said, this is the Starlett broke the camel's back,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: the sex ring. Too much of it will help. We
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: just got positions there, we'll get it in. Isn't interesting
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: too that Ned and Judy Nankovic are examples of what
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: that professor said CBN was most for. Was you have
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: this total nerd Ned Nankovitch. If you look at his picture,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: he's an ugly looking, short, nasty guy. But he's married
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: to a model, a model, a model, So he's married
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: to this miss Manners.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: This was her.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Platform model and model manager. Is who Ned's married to?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: This grizzled guy. It's interesting. It's the stereotypes. Judy Nakovic,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: Judy Nekovic or Vankovic. Yeah? Is it v A n
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: v A n Vankovich so Ned Vankovich? So yeah, Ned
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: and Judy Vankovic. I'm sorry, is it Nakovich or Vankovich?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: It'd be crazy. Hold on, let me find it here.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Where were they from, right, Virginia Beach?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah they were, and then she was from originally from Canada.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Let me see if I can call him up here.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: I know I have it right here here it is. Okay,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: here we go, Okay, it's actually Vankovich, ed v A
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: n k e Vich. You can let me show you
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: what he looks like. I'll just hold this up just
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: to the screen. You got to see this. So this
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: is who the model's married to. Yeah, that guy?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, we have the same page up.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, look at that guy. So that's who
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: the model's married to. Robertson's tactic. But he does not
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: list about working for Disney's story department.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: No, this is a current twenty twenty six site at
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Trinity Western University communications director, which is the same thing
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: that Sova was.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: He was communications director.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Right, so he moved him up to Canada because of
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: the connections with his wife from Canada, I guess it was.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: And so he gets all these rewards and gets to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: top positions. That's what they do.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: It does say film production, it just doesn't mention who.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. Well, wouldn't you put Disney right? You
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: would think you would think, yeah, his wife's same thing.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Doesn't research. Let's see, is it mentioned.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't want it to be known because that was
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: how the script got to Disney. But we got the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: letterhead on Disney letterhead talking about Judy having the position
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: that he's consulting there, everything like that. It's right here.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Let me read this from their letter to me. And
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: I want to hold this up for you real quick,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: just so you can see it. Can you see it? Yeah? Okay?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: It says on their third paragraph, Judy is presently working
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: the development division of Hollywood Pictures and the Walt Disney Studios.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm pursuing freelance filmmaking, writing scripts for both TV
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: feature films and pitching films ideas to Hollywood producers. Yeah. Mine,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: But Judy's resume nothing about Disney Disney developed development division
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: of Hollywood Pictures at the Walt Disney Studios, presley working
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: in the development division. Where's it on your Resumere's it
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: on your resume unless they figure I'm so down now
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: they can go ahead and brag about it and added
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: it later.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, that's hmm, that's that's not good. That's
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: not good.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: That's this is not That was the ploy to make
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: sure my work ended up at Disney.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Is that? So? Bring in the Lenny Coco tape on
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: your website? Who sent you with? How did you get
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: to Lenny Coco?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Ah?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: So Lenny Coco. Nadia Sentino was a grad student of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: Pat Robertson's university, Regent University CBN University at the time.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: So Pat Robertson has the pretty Italian girl come to
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: me and start talking me up, saying she's working for
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Planet Video. Also, she said, look, I know about your script.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: How'd you know? I don't know. My father in law
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: is Lenny Coco, who's best friends with Bonda Ventura. I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: sent your script to him, really and uh he said
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: it was hot. He wants you to come up and
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: pitch it and we'll make sure that Warner Brothers gets it.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: All this stuff. So out of the blue, it comes
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: this beautiful Italian girl who happens to be Pat Robertson's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: grad student and is approaching me to make sure that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: my script is going to make it to Warner Brothers
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: and Warren Brothers. So she was the daughter in law
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: of Lenny Coco, daughter in law of Lenny Coco, who's
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  Speaker 3: bought WARN's best friend.
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  Speaker 1: The daughter in law of Lenny Coco is brought to
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  Speaker 1: you because she's a graduate of the Regent University, currently
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  Speaker 1: attended stud student.
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  Speaker 3: Of Pat Robertson's organization. So they picked her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's did Did you did you see what
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  Speaker 2: popped up on screen?
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So I asked, can you find more of his? Meaning?
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  Speaker 1: We are on the topic of doctor Silva and Disney.
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  Speaker 1: I said, can you find more of his work with Disney,
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  Speaker 1: and Ned Vankovich says, here's what I found, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: be straight where the trail goes cold on Ned Vankovitch,
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  Speaker 1: Here's a real and well documented figure, and the link
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  Speaker 1: to Silva is almost certainly Regent University. Vankovich holds a
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  Speaker 1: PhD in MA from Regent, plus a MA from Old
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  Speaker 1: Dominion and a BA from McGill, so he and Solva
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  Speaker 1: overlap in that Virginia Regent orbit. He's been an associate
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  Speaker 1: professor of Media and Communication at Trinity Western University in Langley,
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  Speaker 1: BC for twenty plus years. After teaching in LA Boston
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  Speaker 1: and Virginia. He spent fifteen years in film TV documentary
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  Speaker 1: as a producer, writer, and director, and describes himself as
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  Speaker 1: a collector of extraordinary things. His scholarly output is film
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  Speaker 1: and rhetorical criticism, with the conference papers at the National
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  Speaker 1: Communication Association on films like The Matrix Through a Cave, Darkly,
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  Speaker 1: Virtual Reality, Neurobiology and postmodern Theology, The Princess and the Warrior,
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  Speaker 1: and Sacred Art Singing. As a filmmaker, he's known for
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  Speaker 1: da da on the Disney question most both men, this
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  Speaker 1: is where I have to level with you. I found
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  Speaker 1: no additional documented Disney work for Silva, and none for
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Vankovich either. For Silva, the entire Disney connection resists on
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: what that one twenty seventeen student interview where he says
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  Speaker 1: he has a Christian ad agency did work for Disney hotels.
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  Speaker 1: There's no agency name, no campaign, no trade press record,
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  Speaker 1: no archived artifact I can find anywhere for Vankovich. He
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  Speaker 1: his film criticism is wide ranging, but Disney not focused.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: It's the Matrix, German art films, experimental cinema, theology, media,
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  Speaker 1: nothing Disney specific surfaced.
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  Speaker 3: Can you say that about the Matrix? Can we save
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: that clip about the Matrix.
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  Speaker 1: That he yep, I'm recording live. I've here and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna copy this for you. I think that's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that. So he took my work,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: solicited my work, and then takes credits for understanding my work.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Driving into neurobiology of your Oh wow, yeah, that's what
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: it says. So his his paper for the National Communication Association,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: he wrote a conference paper for films like the Matrix,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: which is titled through a Cave Darkly Virtual Reality, Neurobiology
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  Speaker 1: and Postmodern Theology.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Look that up right from our pages.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh, And a lot of survivor stories discuss caves.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: People should look up Morgan Stellar Truth on X about caves.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Academic analysis explores how the Matrix uses Plato's allegory of
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: the cave, modern neurobiology, and Wan Bulgyard Sorry postmodern theory
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  Speaker 1: to critique contemporary perceptions of reality. The study highlights how
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: film translates philosophical concepts like brain in a vat into
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: cyberpunk narrative.
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  Speaker 2: See if the full here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's linked, though, I guess he
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  Speaker 3: couldn't help himself. Yeah, gon't farm it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that he's connected to the matrix of
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: all things.
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  Speaker 1: Your story with him starts where he's the person that
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: connected your screenplay.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: He's the one that called me and said yeah, he's
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: the one that called me and said, look, it's a
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: terrible thing that happened to you right when I lost
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: everything eighty eight eighty nine, And he said, we just
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: got positions in Hollywood. Listen, I will make sure your
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: script gets into the Disney story development department and Universal.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: We'll make sure it gets there. Give it to us
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: and we'll make sure you get a fair deal. And
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: you know we'll take care of it.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: He did. He took care of it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Complete nerd. You gotta slash the loco you drink the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: cool lake.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Mine done you. It's just how you do. Monarch scripts
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  Speaker 1: in an Instagram spell smile for the brown while locked
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: in the cell.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I don't need you, not fratilitates. I'm here for the mess,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: the branchess, the betchas marketings, the leash and both the blood.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Let's sash up, break in the job. You'll take it off.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: The matches, the cow.
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  Speaker 1: To take
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  Speaker 3: My days mine control