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Episode 77 | Season 4 | Polarity Moon Cycle | Full Moon · Living the Moon Cycles

• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, I'm Wendy Wright, and welcome to Living the Moon Cycle.
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  SPEAKER_00: Each episode is a conversation with me and my highly intuitive good friend Betty, where we share our extraordinary experiences of intuition.
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  SPEAKER_00: By living an organic way of being within the sacred geometry of cyclical time, we experience the full capacity of our consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our conversation and the information you hear in this podcast is streamed from a unified collective intelligence known as the 11th Alliance.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: I invite you to explore and enjoy a new knowing of yourself within Living the Moon Cycle.
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  SPEAKER_00: Live it and be it.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to season four of Living the Moon Cycles.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the Polarity Moon Cycle of 2026, full moon.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Betty.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Paige.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Pei.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Wendy.
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  SPEAKER_00: All at once now.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we've had some uh some great experiences since the last podcast.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: And the last podcast it was um the last episode was uh Paige and I, and Betty was on an adventure.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I think we'd like to start with uh Betty sharing part of her adventure and what part of the moon cycle it was in and how it was relative to all that.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, it it was so fun.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was um it right before the new moon.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it actually went through the new moon a couple days.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but it was so fun.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: It was uh I went to Sand Point, Idaho.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: I had never been to the northwest part of the country at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it the place is beautiful.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely am gonna go back visiting up there.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: The uh people were amazing.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: I flew into Spokane, not Spokane, like I used to say, and I was I was gently corrected, Spokane.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I met this amazing woman there, uh Amber, who was a full moon.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: And she and I, it was an hour to get from the airport.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of the somebody volunteered to come pick us up.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: So um she was on a meeting.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how she was doing that while she was driving.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: So Amber and I got to know each other really well, and we actually had stayed in the sandpoint for uh there's a cute little town there.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: I highly recommend you go there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we talked all kinds of spiritual stuff, and she was an amazing woman.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's been all over the world and is very much into water and whales and dolphins, and we really had a good talk.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: That was the beginning of the week.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, Betty, this was a writer's retreat.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: This was These were all writers coming together.
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  SPEAKER_01: These there were 15 of us, uh, all every everyone but a few of us were published in some form, whether it was newspapers or books or whatever, but it was really an amazing group of uh women.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in fact, one of the women said at one time, you know, usually there's always one person at a retreat in in this group that doesn't fit in.
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  SPEAKER_01: They actually said there's an a-hole, but there was no one was like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Amy Midstock has written a book, she was the leader of this, and she brought in another amazing woman, um um Lizette Lanzer, and she had written a book, and it sh she was amazing because she was uh the only African-American woman there, but just it was a wealth of information in her book.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh I started reading that.
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  SPEAKER_01: She started off with uh women, the uh black women's hair, which is I know a very sensitive subject.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: So it was an amazing book, uh, got that, but the whole week was just one amazing experience after another for me.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: And what it turned out being is I have a new uh narrative, new perspective on myself, in that I didn't think I had any imagination, and I didn't think I could write, and I thought, well, I'm gonna, I heard right away when I first heard about it that I was supposed to go, and it really has blown my imagination out of the water.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: There is so much coming to me now, and in the morning, can be 3 or 4 a.m.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm writing what uh I'm being guided to write, and it's really interesting, crazy things I'm writing, things that really about seals and otters playing and just all kinds of strange sentences coming to me.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: I write them down and it could so it it's so this whole um beautiful retreat opened up that flow within you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, my imagination.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your imagination and and that imagination is coming through in words, and you're just writing it.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's that simple.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: And um what I'm and what I'm finding, yes, and what I'm finding is I I was getting kind of frustrated because uh while I was at the writer's retreat, I could complete a story.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: Now what I'm doing is just having the beginning, the hook.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: And uh what I was given one night in the middle of the night is that will all it's as these moon cycle series.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, I'm really not sure how how long this will work or what's gonna come of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's I'm definitely on an adventure, but that will unfold as the moon cycle series goes along.
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  SPEAKER_01: And tomorrow I'm having my first meeting with Amy.
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  SPEAKER_01: She had offered to mentor me uh and with with my work.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm really excited about that too.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's changed my life, then that I now realize, yes, I do have an imagination, and yes, it's coming forth in so many different ways.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: So your your divine life trajectory has opened up in the way of a writer.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who knew where who would have thought where that really wasn't your narrative before?
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: I it was constantly being introduced to you, but I'm not sure that you really acknowledged it.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, or really absolutely, yes.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: It I I kind of discarded it at times.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is from when I was little, and I you know, that was one of the things I shared.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I've ever shared this with you guys, but in eighth grade, I won a writer's contest.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: I won a Oh, now that comes out.
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  SPEAKER_01: That came up during the writers' retreat, and when all of these memories started coming up, and I won a$50 bond, which back then in this early 60s, that was a lot of money, and it was uh citywide.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: So at the time I just like it was what does America mean to me?
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like you know, but yeah.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa, you that's a hard one to write about.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I came in, I think, second or third place.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, yeah, wow, Betty.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: So wow is right.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: I we have we have really uh been experiencing a different Betty, uh definitely in the last couple weeks for sure.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, Paige and I started out this moon cycle on the new moon with that podcast, uh with that episode of um you know Betty on a retreat and Paige and I looking at each other blankly, realizing we were back in the same place, right, Paige?
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we were.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we that was the first day we had to acknowledge it.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it was so funny because the contrast, you know, Betty's in Idaho and she's on this retreat.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: She's on a new adventure.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: She's not back in the same place she was before.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was another contrast.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, totally opening up to the new.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, so Paige, what are what are your thoughts on that uh that day when we did the new moon episode recording and kind of the things that happened after that?
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's a little bit crushing, I was gonna say.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, where to begin?
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, I was definitely on a high after the podcast because I um well, actually not right after the podcast, because it was a couple days after that I kind of realized that after an experience I had with uh in France that I do have this capability to to stream and but I didn't understand what streaming actually meant in my personal life.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I had you and I were working on a workbook and and and note cards and things, and uh one morning I woke up and I just it just all came out of me, and I kept mean I was texting you and sending you like PDFs and all kinds of things, and it was just coming out of me, and then you were you told me that's streaming as well, and I didn't realize that was streaming, so that kind of got me excited, and then um we had uh then we had um our inciting events, didn't we?
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, which was which was a little unsettling, wasn't it?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm gonna let you take that.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh we visited a a website of a person that has been involved in Co-Create, and we were reading their website and it they were back in the same place they had been too.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so when Paige was reading some of these blogs, some of this information really resonated with her, but in a way that um was polar, wasn't it, Paige?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: What those what those blogs brought through to you about yourself and your experiences with your Yeah, I guess it was polar.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_03: I guess you could call it polar, yeah.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: Contrast, it was giving it a little bit of a couple of things contrast, definitely contrast, yeah.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: And it was introducing kind of a new um perspective or a new objectivity on it.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I would say.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: And what can you share what that was?
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_03: It was more that I I was feeling some things and I weren't I wasn't acknowledging them.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: And so I wasn't really being authentic with myself.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that's the contrast that I saw.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: I was I was hearing some truths or some things that I I was feeling, but I I was kind of dismissing them.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: How often do we do that?
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  SPEAKER_00: We get these we get these nudges or we get these feelings like, wow, this just doesn't sit right with me.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: I already know something's not quite right.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Or and then it takes like this situation where she read these blogs, and then it really made those things come up.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it and it had to do with our relationship and working together and how uh some of the time you kind of felt like, well, am I being kind of pushed into this, or I being talked into it, or am I, you know, how do I really feel about this?
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, those kinds of things, wouldn't you say?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so then uh she became authentic with herself.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: That inciting event opened her up to um like being more authentic with yourself and acknowledging that.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's really what the moon cycle does is that inciting event starts the transformational arc on its way.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then in that rest of the week of that new moon week we end up um working with that or experiencing that on a deeper level.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I think it was in the um first quarter moon that kind of things came to a head.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: So now it's very interesting because because Betty got back from her trip, all right.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then they were all conversing with that, you know, right after the new moon and everything, and and all this information that Paige came through with and Paige Paige is a wealth of knowledge.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you have created so many things for CoCreate.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: And we've been working together for a year now.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: And um this is a great situation to share with everyone where uh uh uh we're all on our own divine life trajectory, but as uh um friends and also working together on things, we are a call to action for each other in ways.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so what happened was when Paige read those blogs, she started questioning her relationship with me and also kind of with CoCreate.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, where was I or how was that working?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And um and uh you had to acknowledge that some of it didn't sit right with you.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so then she was she was very honest with me on a text with that.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that opened up in me um some guidance to send to her, you know, about you know what, we need to step back, we need all of this needs to stop right now is think what I think I said.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so that got me to step out of the whole thing, and I got you too, and I got Betty too, because Betty was kind of following what was going on too.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so it reset our relationship with each other, not in the most comfortable way.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: How would how would you say you were feeling during all that, Pate?
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to share.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: I just kind of stunned at first, and then it's because it came out of the blue, um, just the the whole conversation that how it happened, and um and then I agreed that things had to stop and had it change, and then um yeah, and I just kind of yeah, I I I can't do it.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: It was uncomfortable, definitely uncomfortable, unbalanced, like yes, yeah, definitely those kinds of things and kind of like what do I do?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh, if I don't have this, what am I gonna do?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_03: And then it's like I don't I can function on my own, you know.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: I I know I can do this.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: But go ahead, sorry.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hearing we need to get a little more specific here.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: What okay what was it about?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Wasn't this about going to that whether or not you were going to the expo?
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was actually deeper than that, Betty.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was really about um how Paige had been in a relationship with me where I was uh streaming our consciousness and um um troubleshooting our consciousness, wouldn't you say?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would yeah.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it got to the point where obviously we went through this exercise where that was no longer appropriate, but that page could do it on our own, and so we had these exciting events that kind of pushed all of us over the edge of that.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't you say true, yeah.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: I think everything happened the way it should have.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: It honestly did, because the growth from this is huge for me.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um But see, we talk about push pushing and flexing our relationships.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't you say that's exactly what happened in the situation?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Shoving maybe more than pushing.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was yes.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was interesting.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: It was very interesting.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, knowing knowing the things that I did know, then I was like, this is an exercise.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: I I knew that there was something going on here.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: So but yeah, I was comfortable.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was really uncomfortable.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: It was very uncomfortable, and that's what Betty and I recognize that when we get in these situations and it's really uncomfortable, especially with relationships, we know the potential of growth is huge.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, for everyone involved.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: But that doesn't mean when you're going through that, you're that's in your awareness that it's potential for change.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: I knew something was happening, but I'm like, I I didn't know what until I did.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: So um it just so happened that Paige had uh taken a delivery of the chairs that were uh supposed to we were gonna take to the expo and she had something else, a microphone and stuff.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I went over not the next day, uh I don't know, a couple days later.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: And um I looked at her and said, you know, Paige, this is just it's just an opportunity for experience.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, because now we were like, is is are you gonna go to the expo?
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: I knew I was going to the expo.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's I backed out and I was like, okay, what is it, what is Wendy's inspire next step?
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it was I'm going to the expo.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: And Betty had already booked a flight and she was going, so it was like so I came over to Paige's house and I said, It's it's totally an opportunity for an experience.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: And if you if I wake up tomorrow and you're going, that's great.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: If I wake up tomorrow and you're not going, that's great too.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's really in your own choice.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's really how you're guided.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not out of obligation or guilt or what you think you should do or what you need to do.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's totally within that capacity of your own consciousness.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: And so that was that was kind of like the icing on the cake that just kind of said, Okay, I'm I'm through this, I'm over this, I'm like I felt free, I have to make my own decisions.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_03: I I let go of what I thought was holding me back or pressuring me.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: And uh so I definitely decided to go.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I stayed Friday and Saturday, and I left on Sunday.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um I drove separately, yeah.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: So but yeah, no, it all it was just it just got more interesting after that, didn't it?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: The expo.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: But I have to say, uh this was the first time I've been in Paige's presence for a long time.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I could really sense a different vibration with her.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it she's uh so much more open and vulnerable than I've ever seen her at at the expo.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it was really just a delight to be with her, and I'm so glad she decided to come.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I felt I felt free, but I felt authentic because I had spoken my truth and I've I felt the feelings.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: I did all that, and it was like, oh wow.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so anyway, that's kind of where I was when I got there.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: I've Yeah.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: So Paige and I set up the booth on the Friday night, and we noticed that the booth next to us hadn't been sold, and so we went up to the organizer and we said, Hey, if it's not sold, can we just spread and you know go into that extra space?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: And they're always really glad because they don't want to they don't want to have an empty booth sitting during it.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: So we ended up taking I took another panel with me, just an extra one, and so we set the extra panel up and the whole thing, and um I guess that was Saturday morning we did that.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: And Betty Betty looked at me and she goes, Uh uh This feels kind of strange, doesn't it?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: This expo.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Yeah, it does.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it feels different than the other expos we've done.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so we set up the whole thing, we got it just finished, and the organizer came back and said, Uh, you have to go back to your smaller booth because I do have someone now that wants that booth.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: And we were like, Oh my gosh, like polarity, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like so we proceeded to leave the big panel up and put everything back into a 10x10 booth, which was this cozy little nesty thing we made then.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: And we had a table in there and everything.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: And we're we're right on the corner too.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: So we're right on the corner.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's still open.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, so we we can we we sat there and people started coming, and the three of us were completely different this time at the expo.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: For some reason, we didn't care at all if we talked to anyone, and we couldn't figure it out.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we're and we're all kind of saying that to each other.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't feel the same.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't feel as though I need to really make a contact with them.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: So then we put our chairs in a little circle and we just started talking, and we started talking about this new creative agency that's Coming through this epiphany I had not too long ago.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: And we had the greatest time.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: And every now and then a person would show up and they'd stand there and stare at us and then we would talk to them.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: It was like they had to come and stand there and stare at us and then we would get up and say something.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then when he had a situational exercise where a man came up, he had a booth down the way and he stared at our stuff and he was like, Do you know that this new math came through on December of 2025?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, That sounds very interesting.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Can you explain that to me?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: So we get in this deep conversation of mathematics and spirituality and quantum physics and and sacred geometry and all these things.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And um so then he saw someone in his booth and he had to leave.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I was told I needed to go get a London Fox and I needed to leave the expo.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I went out in the car and I kind of drove to the to the Starbucks in a roundabout way.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I got there and I heard you're troubleshooting is consciousness.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're not at this expo to do that.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh my gosh, you're right.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: I just troubleshot I mean, that's what I was doing.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: That was what was a situational exercise with Paige.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: And when and it it was all of this needs to stop now.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so I did the same thing with this guy in the booth.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Wow, okay, so you're introducing a whole new way for us to show up.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, Yes, you're gonna walk back in that expo and you're gonna not do what you're used to or comfortable with, and you're gonna start doing this new way of explaining the material.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I gotta say, I wasn't that happy.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, nobody, as Betty says, You gotta slap down, Wendy.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta slap down.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I came back in and I explained it to him.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: And the man showed up again.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: He comes around the corner, he goes, Wendy, I'm sorry.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was defensive in our conversation and and I apologize and and it brought up a lot of things within me.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I just I acknowledged it and said, Thank you, I feel the same, I did the same thing.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: And um so can you see how that relationship too was like this whole new narrative that was being presented to us and and and I proceeded to go down to his booth later with a piece of paper and asked him if he could write the equation down because I'd like it on paper, and then I had a long another long discussion with him.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: But so during the entire expo after that, I I stood there and I would flip back and forth between troubleshooting the consciousness of someone and actually telling them how the reality worked.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I would see the difference it had in them and how telling them how the reality works is so much more effective than troubleshooting theirs.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: And when I say troubleshooting their consciousness, I see the contrast in someone's consciousness.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: And like like I can tell them what their identity map says, but also know um this is how to work with that, this is how to improve that, this is how those kinds of things.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: But in telling them how the reality works, I present it in a neutral way, not so specific to their consciousness.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's a much more open field for them to be receptive with.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, what do you guys have to share with that?
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I don't know specifically to that, although I must say I did witness you doing that on Sunday.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um we had uh four, four or five, maybe six, well, four younger women uh come to the booth, and I saw you do that a few times, and then you gave a talk at one o'clock on Sunday, and we had a switch there too, where I went up and introduced Wendy versus her introducing herself.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: And Wendy is uh stepping onto the world stage.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I keep hearing, and she needs somebody to introduce her.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I went up there and it was seamless.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: I was told, shown exactly what to say and how long to talk.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: And there were a couple older women who were very excited about it and came up after, actually, I think there were three women who came up after the talk, which was amazing.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: That was a little different too.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I saw you doing that again, where um really um showing them how the explaining how this kind of the this reality works versus their um troubleshooting their consciousness.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: So that was that was really interesting to watch that, to witness that.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: So can you see how when I went to Paige's house and I said this is an opportunity for experience, that was in it for all of us.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was we are throwing ourselves into the world in a situation that's just really open-ended.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then higher consciousness has this opportunity to to for growth and change to happen within our lives, and especially with our divine life trajectory.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because when I came to Betty and I said, Betty, I think you're gonna do the talk, that was the first thing, and she just looked at me like, Oh, I don't know about that, you know.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: But then she came back later and she said, No, I'm gonna introduce you.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Yes, that's what it is.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it was really great because Betty she has such a soft way about her that she was this beautiful introduction that stepped them up to Wendy because when Wendy starts talking, there can be a pretty big vibration coming through, and I just really saw how that was so instrumental.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, to tell and Betty told about our relationship and the you know, you know, how we met and the whole thing.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and there was um exactly the same thing.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: There was a woman across uh caddy corner from us in this booth, and hers was Tulia Publishing.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, gobbling up writing anywhere I can now.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I've never seen, other than that one podcast uh expo we went to in Florida, um, I've never seen a publisher anywhere.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen Anderson Will Windows at hurt, all of them, but yes, this woman, I mean, I was really drawn to her.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: And in every other expo, all of us at one time have gone to someone and had an experience with them, whether it was Reiki or Massage or Aura or whatever.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: I've never really I did my the Aura thing, but it was kind of because everybody else did, but I'm not really been drawn to it.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: I was really drawn to go talk to this woman.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I went over there and I was there.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: It seemed like an hour, might have been more, might have been less.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: It was pretty long.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: It was and it was great, and I was just like, I'm right here, and she was right there with me, and we were just connecting in a big way.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: So, and we were talking about publishing books basically.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I came back and with was talking to Paige and Wendy about it, and Wendy's like, Yeah, I need to go talk to her.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we didn't actually go back until Sunday afternoon, and I'm introduced them, said a few things, but then her name was Chris.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Chris and Wendy are just going back and forth in this short uh shorthand talking, and they really connected with they each knew what the other one was saying about publishing maybe the note cards.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know what I mean, the animal deck cards, but just it was just many things.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: We have many things.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we we have been kind of waiting for a publisher, waiting, not not waiting, just knowing that the timing would be right when someone stepped into um collaborating with us.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right, and I kind of feel like that now that you're saying that about um I introduced her to you and then you two took off.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think Chris and I still are have a a relationship as far as publishing because she's fairly new at the actual publishing of things, but she has such a background of knowledge with so many other things, and she has a lot of resources in that.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that would that was pretty phenomenal that I actually was over there and I didn't care what Paige and Wendy were doing in the armbooth.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: I was like so involved.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: We we still had this attitude of we just we were there for people if they came up, but you know, and we even on the first day, I don't know, Betty got her what had got finished talking with this Chris, the publisher, and and we're all like, You're hungry, you know, and usually what we do is we take turns to go eat lunch, and we were like, we wrote a little sign that said, at lunch, be back at two.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: And we just all left.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it was perfectly fine, you know.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: I and we were just so much more relaxed at this expo and just going with the flow.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: And Betty brought back the cards and the descriptions of Chris, this publisher, and I looked at it immediately and I went through and did the sacred geometry of it, and it was so much so aligned with our model or whatever you want to call it with sacred geometry.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I was showing Betty how it's taking the larger sacred geometry into a very manageable working thing for Betty and her consciousness.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I love doing that, I really do.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: I love looking at something and and understanding the sacred geometry of it.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: And Wendy sees it immediately, you know, she really does.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and the other thing is with Chris, this she this was her animal deck or not animal deck, her oracle deck cards that set of that she had actually published, that was the first thing she had published, and it took her two years to put it together.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it was really interesting how you could tell this was her love, the first thing that she published, even though, and she's uh going to be doing a lot more publishing, I think.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: But the fact that we're coming in at the initial point for her also, I think, is significant.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: We're start we're working together in a new way.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, that's what happens.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's where we met the NASA software program.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: Where we met the mathematician, and I I mean it's all Yeah, yeah.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we're guided to go.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: We're already we already know we're going in January to Denver.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like the day of the new the full moon.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: I woke up at like three in the morning and and I heard look at your phone and look at the other locations, and I was like, it was Denver, and I thought, I'm glad it's in January.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: We've got a couple months between these.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm thinking because we've had a lot of growth in one expo.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm thinking January in Denver.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it'll be fine.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm coming from Florida.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're never gonna be I'll have to wear my boots and my jeans and everything.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh wouldn't you guys say that the experience is more just than the expo?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's us being together and having the situational exercises we have and um, you know, driving around trying to buy a rug, you know, for the for the booth.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so that all happened.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um that was the uh new moon week in the first quarter week of this moon cycle of polarity.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: And what happens in this moon cycle is there's a lot of contrast.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're given objectivity.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Contrast gives us objectivity, where a lot of times we don't see things because there's no contrast to it.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so we end up in these situations where it provided like the situation with Paige and I, it provided a lot of contrast and a lot of objectivity for both of us.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then what growth uh what how would you say like your narrative has changed?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's really that changed in the narrative week and then we've had a moment of truth, you know.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: We're actually recording this podcast several days after the moon the full moon.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um what would you say you guys like uh you know, like we heard Betty's is more writer, and then in the expo that even came through even more.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, my narrative now instead of troubleshooting consciousness, which I've learned a lot troubleshooting consciousness the last how many years.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: And now I'm going to, okay.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: From troubleshooting consciousness, you ha you now understand how the reality works.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Change the narrative, change the language to that, and it's a much more neutral understanding of it.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so that was that was the biggest thing for me.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then I had the experience of it.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was standing there and I heard, no, you don't have it right, no, you don't have it right, try again.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: So Yeah, Paige, can you think can you put it into words?
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh put your put your change of maybe change of narrative into words.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's more like don't wait to be informed from something outside.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's more coming from inside.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: Why trust my guidance.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_03: So I think don't wait for external go with internal authority.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: Authority.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, external authority.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: External authority, yeah.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: Where we make like me or you make other people external authority.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's what happened with the expo, don't you think so, guys?
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: Where we showed up and we weren't thinking of the expo's external authority, we were just doing our own thing.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Where we showed up in a different way and for the expo.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it was a lot more freeing too, now that I'm thinking about it, because it was some of the other expos we had to stay in our booth till such and such a time.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: We couldn't break down till such and such a time, and we you know, there was none of that.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: We just kind of came and went as we wanted, and nobody monitored us.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because we didn't care.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: We made up those rules ourselves.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they're yeah, because they're in that which one came first, us making up the rules or or them not having the rules.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of think it's Betty pushed the envelope, she really pushed the envelope at the end, where it the the expo ended at 6 p.m.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: and at 4 45 she looks at me and she goes, Time to close up, time to take everything down.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like 4 45, and I stood there and I thought, okay.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Why not?
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, other people were breaking their stuff down.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, let's go.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: And the big door to the outside, you know, loading dock doesn't open till six.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: And by the time they opened the door, we had everything loaded in the wagon and we're ready to take it out the door.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, so it was kind of fun too.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: I we I I we would I'd have to say we have a much um our narrative is more freedom with expos.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: And not holding ourselves to a contrived narrative with it.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Doing more of what our guidance is.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: And this the second day, you know, Paige wasn't there and Betty and I were like, after the talk, we actually there was a woman in the booth and she had been there a while and we were like, we gotta go to lunch now.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: And we wrote we crossed off 2 p.m.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: on the little card and we put 3 p.m.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: at lunch back at 3 p.m.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, there were a couple people who came back, said that they had been there and and so the they came while we were at lunch and they came back.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's all.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: They came back.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's well and the the first time we did it, the vendor next to us, she came around the corner and she goes, You know, there were people here they didn't know if your books were free or whatever.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: And we were like, Yeah, okay.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're free, they could take them or not, whatever.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they took them and it was fine.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't take them, it was fine.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so yeah, that was our that was our escapade or whatever you want to call it to Chicago.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so yeah, that's uh, you know, when you're listening to this, to really think about on that crescent moon after the new moon, you're gonna have an inciting event that kicks off this adventure of the moon cycle.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that inciting event was us not troubleshooting consciousness anymore and to uh you know be more in that understanding mindset um awareness of how the reality works.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then that has changed our narrative in that way.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: So then on the full moon we have a full realization of that truth.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh in that gibbous before the full moon is where the the lie that we're telling ourselves open and that truth can come through even more.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's we're learning very much about these uh dynamics on a d more dimensional level is story.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so uh Betty and I edited uh a note card that we're gonna put on the website and um we're gonna post that probably uh tonight or tomorrow.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody can go in and print out this note card that gives you the uh it's kind of like a planner of the moon cycle, and then on the back side it gives you what is happening at the new moon, what happens the days after the new moon, what is happening at the crescent.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so you can start following along with what we're talking about on the on these uh episodes then.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: And if you remember at the very new moon of the purpose moon cycle, we had none of this information.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't know any of it.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: We were like, what is this going to be?
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so can you see how all this starts to come through?
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're aware of it, this is what's happening in your own life.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: The story is starting to come through of what in this series of moon cycles, the story that's unfolding.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: Now mm, you know, we have the story of co-create going on, and then we also have the story within our personal lives too.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so this full moon week is all about uh this lie and this truth.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: And they're both present in your consciousness during this week.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: And what you have is you have new behavioral patterns that reinforce the truth.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so when we get to the gibbous that's coming up in a few days, you're going to have some behavioral pattern that really um stabilizes that truth.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I was guided last night to look at the other moon cycle, purpose moon cycle.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: That was the previous moon cycle.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I looked at the day of that gibbous and I looked at what behavioral pattern that was.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then I looked at the day before I had an epiphany.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so my epiphany was very much this creative agency that's in the um in our consciousness that we're unaware of, and I hadn't I had a visceral experience of it.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I was very unbalanced during that.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: And the next day I went and bought a car to have in Oregon.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was like that epiphany uh and that's the truth that I experienced, then uh incited this behavioral pattern to go buy a car.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was all stabilizing the truth in my consciousness.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so in this full moon week, something like that is going to happen again where we have some kind of an experience that uh really brings that truth uh um more prominent in our consciousness.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then we do some behavioral pattern like I I bought a car, or we step into something with more confidence of our truth.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what's gonna happen in this moon week we're in right now.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: Now when we get to the third quarter, okay, that's when this truth is um stabilizes even more.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we usually on that third quarter, the lie is presented to us.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: You know, what we think we want is presented to us and then we realize in the contrast that that it's really we know the truth is what is best for us.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's what we need.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_00: And this is always going on.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I love now how we understand it as an this transformational transformational arc and we're in this story unfolding during the moon cycle.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: And the story is really the theme of it is polarity, where we get more objectivity on our truth through contrast.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: That was beautiful.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's just it's so it to me doing this story again is just so clear and easy to understand without a lot of big words.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's embedding language and something that I can uh really wrap my head around.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we've been Working with the snow card for a while, I'm really excited to be once it's published, um, to actually be using it.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think everybody's gonna find it just phenomenally interesting and and appropriate.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to see it.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: Paige Paige was very uh influential on it and the content.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_00: Her consciousness is an individual and we're speakers, so Paige is always extracting from us the what when we are always talking about the why.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: And which is great.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that's how it works.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, yes, you're gonna you're gonna be able to find this note card on our website, living the mooncycles.com, and you go to the helpful tools page, and when you scroll down, you're gonna see note cards.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we'll and what this is is we're not selling this note card.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: There is a downloadable PDF because this is still in we're testing it.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_00: We're still learning about it.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be learning about this throughout all the moon cycles.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: So if you print it off and you're using it, you're part of this development of us learning about the moon cycles and living them, which is ongoing all the time.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: We're always in change and growth.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it just gives you a new dimensional aspect on story and transformational arc.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then what is helpful also, and this is what we do in the booth a lot, is if you if you scroll on there, you're also gonna see calendars and the Google Calendar and the Apple calendar.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: When you upload those calendars into your phone, it goes into your Google Calendar or Apple calendar.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then it'll come up on the day that it's Gibbus, or it'll cut the first quarter or third quarter, new moon, or full moon.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, all of those will be in your own calendar if you upload it.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: And then if you use the note card with the calendar on your phone, you can start uh going through and tracking your experiences during moon cycles, and then you'll be really knowing what we're talking about on the the these recordings, these episodes.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I want to add the uh dates are you were using NASA's data, so it's it's pretty doggone accurate.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: So Well we go by illumination rather than angle is what we do.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: The percentage of illumination of the moon when it's zero percent and when it's a hundred percent.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes that varies slightly with other moon apps.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: So because they're using measured angle.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of times it's only once in a great while that it's there's a difference in what we have.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: Even though we went we did this uh situational exercise in a way because uh trying to make sure the dates were right, Wendy and I were working out at it one day and it was like, oh my goodness.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it really shows me too, showed me how there is like a little bit of a window in a lot of these uh Oh, the the new moon and the full moon windows of illumination.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: And we have to just pick a day, you know, to say we would love to put it on there as a window, but we're trying to fit it in the Google format of the calendar and the Apple format.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_00: But it was interesting.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm hearing to um yeah, like what what is our most impactful experience in the last two weeks, would you say that has brought you you know change?
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: These last two weeks have been all about change.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: And now we're in the growth of that change.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, for me, the biggest change has been um actually sitting down almost every day and doing something with writing, and that is what I had heard at the beginning was to change because I was kind of putting it off like in the future.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and what I'm doing now is every day, of course.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: The expo that didn't really work real well.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you took off.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: You you abandoned us in the afternoon.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's true.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: I there were a few.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: You just looked at me.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: You looked at me and said, I really want to go right.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I go, go do whatever you want to do.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: Boom, she was gone, she was out of there.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, what do you call that?
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: Speed racing or something.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that's right.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: I had forgotten about that.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for reminding me.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: But that's I've really made a commitment to that where it's it's a priority in my life right now.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's been my biggest change, and it's it's bringing me growth.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at what I'm doing, and it's still not for you know mass consumption, not that I have that in mind.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I really don't know what the end game is with this.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: I just know that I have to do it.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so that's kind of where I am.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's the commitment to the writing.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, Betty, Betty, I after she got back from the retreat, I said, Betty, can I see something that you wrote?
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because she holds it kind of close now.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: I do, and she sent me what she wrote, and it was beautiful.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking, why am I writing?
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, I really I was like, she should be writing all this.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was just awesome and beautiful and fluid and yeah, very, very cool.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: So, Paige, yeah, what's your uh impactful experience of change?
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_03: Well, um, just kind of relying on myself, my inner feelings and guidance, um, and doing the pause and then hear and then do that you had talked about.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know that you talked about it on the podcast, have you?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not quite sure if we mentioned that.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: No, but it is it it helps a lot.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'll let you do that.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: But um No, no, how do you understand it?
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it might come through if I'm having a question about something, should I do something, should I not?
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, for example, I'll pause and then I'll hear or feel.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it could be hear and feel or listen, you know, it could be all of those things um for my guidance.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: And and a lot of times it's more feeling for me than hearing.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_03: And then do it.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_03: So the PhD.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: So pause, hear, do.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: So isn't there a point between hear and do that's very significant?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think there's probably another pause in there for me.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because our mind, that's the point our mind comes in and can talk us out of it.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_02: So you just gotta do it.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: You feel it, just do it.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then is it when you're doing it, don't you feel a sense of joy or you feel like, whoa, you feel you feel free, you feel free.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like, ah, okay, yeah.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: So there's definitely objectivity on that hear and then do.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: And um, that's where the vulnerability and uncertainty and risk is with it.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_03: But that doesn't fit in with the PhD.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta find another.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_03: No, we're not gonna put all those in there.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_03: We we got it down to something pretty simple.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: Pause, hear, do.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, you know, I was um, you know, my boyfriend's in Oregon, Brian now, and uh, and I I had written that out, and he he had a lot more things in there, and he goes, This isn't simple enough for me.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_00: I can only do three things.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_00: Get it down to three things.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: So he's like the test now.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_00: Is it simple enough?
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, I still don't understand it.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: I like him.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's me.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_00: That helps.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know, it's kind of funny that I brought that in right now when it's like, what's the most impactful uh change in your life?
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: I would have to say that.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_00: I would have to say, um, you know, buying a car in Oregon and furnishing that apartment and spending time with them.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_00: And um, we are very polar.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I think we said that in other episodes and things that and we think it's ironic, and now it's he he has you know experienced me going to an app expo and and and me leaving, okay, coming back to St.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_00: Louis and then doing the expo and everything.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: And he wrote this poem about um dating someone who who teaches change and growth and what that is like to him in our relationship.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_00: He he constantly he's like, so far.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of got mad, why are you saying so far?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're changing growth.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea how you're showing up the next day.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: I could be out of it.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: I could I could be gone in a second in your life, you know.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I keep saying, no, I don't think so.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, nope.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, We don't, we have no idea.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, That's true.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's it gets um we just we just live the tomorrow's and see what's what they are.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he's very profound that way.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I would have to say his his presence, um, and yes, everybody noticed a difference when I went to the expo.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_00: I was much more relaxed, and I I got contrast on how intense I was before, I guess.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: They would be like, they're like, Do you have the steamer?
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I go, No, I didn't bring the steamer.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I need to like steam the wrinkles out of things.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, there were so many no, I didn't bring that.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh well, too bad.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_01: And did we need any of that?
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, we didn't need any of it.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yes, he brings uh aspect of um simplicity and he's just showing me and he does write down my more compulsive tendencies because he thinks they're cute.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: And he I'm glad he's showing you the right thing.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: He can't understand it.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: He he's like, Why do you do that?
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I go, I don't know, I just gotta do it, you know.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: And and I'm like, why don't you wipe off the counter?
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: And he goes, What difference does it make?
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, So there's a there's so much contrast and objectivity and learning opportunity, learning opportunity for the two of you stuff.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's complete learning opportunity.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_00: We've never had a relationship like this.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so yeah, that's that's part of it.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: He actually said to me, he goes, I haven't talked about him on the podcast or these recordings.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: And he goes, Do you still like me?
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: You don't talk about me anymore.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I go, this is I said, This is not a soap opera.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is supposed to be the more informational podcast.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I would have to say that is the most impactful thing.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: This has been very interesting, hasn't it?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's as usual.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: As usual, right, right.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_00: Paige, it is so fun having you on.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: We we just so enjoy your perspective.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_01: So glad you're here.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: Glad to be here.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: All right, until next time.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: Life is a journey of curiosity, wonder, and adventure.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_02: Live it, be it.