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Reconciliation 3.0, President Trump signs MoU · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: this Wednesday full of news about the memory of understanding
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  Speaker 1: that has been electronically signed between the United States and Iran.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump gave a long press conference in France today
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  Speaker 1: about the specifics of the deal. This is how he
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  Speaker 1: ended it, which I thought was kind of funny. But
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  Speaker 1: there's also a takeaway here cutt number three.
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  Speaker 2: There's some element to this where you send the vice president.
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  Speaker 2: If it works out, great, you look like a genius
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  Speaker 2: for sending him, and if it doesn't work out, it's
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  Speaker 2: the vice president.
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  Speaker 3: I like that idea issue, But this way, if it
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  Speaker 3: works out, I'm going to take the credit. If it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't work out, I'm blaming JD.
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  Speaker 4: You better be careful, JD. He should to turn his
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  Speaker 4: plane around to get the hell out of here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I like that idea.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a good idea, Thank you very much, everybody,
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  Speaker 3: And that was.
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  Speaker 1: It a good idea. It's actually how it's going to
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  Speaker 1: play out if it works. Donald Trump's a peacemaker. If
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't. Vice President is the guy who pushed for it.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number four, though, was from earlier in the presser
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  Speaker 1: where the President talks about what is in essence, the
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  Speaker 1: whole deal's got fourteen points at this point, and the
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  Speaker 1: only one that matters is number eight, which says negotiations
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  Speaker 1: are ongoing about the nuclear and rich material. Doesn't say
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  Speaker 1: only the highly enriched, so it includes the three point
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  Speaker 1: sixty seven percent stockpile, doesn't rule out pick acts, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mention it by name. That's all the kind of technical details.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what the President had to say about that Cut
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  Speaker 1: number four.
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  Speaker 3: They'll work closely with us to turn over the so
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  Speaker 3: called enriched material that's very deep in the bowels of
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  Speaker 3: the earth, very deep. Nobody can get it. So it's
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  Speaker 3: not important that we do it quickly, but we could
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  Speaker 3: do it fairly quickly. Well, we have a chance, we'll
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  Speaker 3: do it. But in the meantime, we have cameras on
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  Speaker 3: every inch of it. Nobody can do it and if
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  Speaker 3: they do, we'll hit them with patriots. It so, and
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  Speaker 3: they'll be gone. And they know that technical discussions on
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  Speaker 3: the removal of all stockpiles of enriched materials will begin immediately.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to start that immediately.
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  Speaker 3: And unlike Barack Cussin Obama who sent a ran palettes
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  Speaker 3: of cash, and any relief they receive under this deal,
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  Speaker 3: they'll have to get based on merit and it won't
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  Speaker 3: be from us.
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  Speaker 4: We don't have to give them.
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  Speaker 1: Anything, okay, and then he expanded cut number five.
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  Speaker 6: Kesident, You've been saying all week that this deal permanently
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  Speaker 6: prevents Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, but where the
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  Speaker 6: drafts of the deal that have been floating around barely
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  Speaker 6: mentioned Iran's nuclear program? So can you explain how exactly
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  Speaker 6: the deal achieves that goal.
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  Speaker 3: So when I say permanently, it should be permanently. But
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  Speaker 3: if it's not permanently, will bomb them. They will be bombed,
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  Speaker 3: just like I bombed them on Wednesday night and Tuesday night,
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  Speaker 3: and was going to bomb them on Tuesday night at
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  Speaker 3: a level that was three times greater, and they knew
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  Speaker 3: that I will bomb them. Now that's with me as president.
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  Speaker 3: If you have a weak, pathetic president. Maybe that doesn't happen,
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  Speaker 3: but I can only do the show that is as.
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  Speaker 1: Clear as it can be. Point number eight is that
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  Speaker 1: during these sixty days they'll negotiate about everything having to
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  Speaker 1: do with the enrichment, all of it. Three point sixty seven.
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  Speaker 1: No more centrifuge is no more nuclear program, and if
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  Speaker 1: they don't go along, they'll probably extend. I would gives
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  Speaker 1: another ninety days. I expect a hundred and fifty days
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  Speaker 1: of Iran can sell oil and the Golf States can
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  Speaker 1: send their natural gas, oil and fertilizer out. So underd
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  Speaker 1: and fifty days ahead. Then after the election, as is
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  Speaker 1: not uncommon for lanme Duck, presidents in their last two years,
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  Speaker 1: focus like a laser on that, which is why, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, I think right now, Congress' most important responsibility
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  Speaker 1: is to pass Reconciliation three point zero and fund the
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  Speaker 1: national defense, especially the gaps that we discovered in the
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  Speaker 1: course of these forty three days of combat if you
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  Speaker 1: count the last three days. I'll be talking with Senator
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  Speaker 1: Fisher and Senator Houston about that later in the program.
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  Speaker 1: They got to get to work on that. But let's
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  Speaker 1: go back to miscommunication. Within the media about the deal.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump began there cut number two.
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  Speaker 7: I've EMU has been reported and included.
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  Speaker 4: Have I read it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's been reported that it included three hundred billion dollars.
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  Speaker 3: It's false, Golf, it's false. People are people. You can
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  Speaker 3: invest if you want. I mean, what do I have
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  Speaker 3: to say? Nobody's ever allowed to invest? No, we're not invested.
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  Speaker 3: We're not putting up ten cents and people can decide
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  Speaker 3: to do that, but that's up to them. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: do you want me to say nobody's ever allowed to
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  Speaker 3: invest in in a country? I'll say it with Egypt.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's allowed to invest in Egypt. Am I supposed to
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  Speaker 3: say that we are not investing in it and.
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  Speaker 8: We do not have a fund.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: If they do it, fine, but I would say they
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  Speaker 3: won't be doing it for a while until they find
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  Speaker 3: out the behavior. It's a behavior thing, but we are not.
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  Speaker 3: That's a false story that got picked up incorrectly from
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  Speaker 3: a statement that was pretty well made. I think maybe
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  Speaker 3: a little bit could have been a little more accurate, frankly, but.
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  Speaker 4: It's a we are not investing ten cents. Don't forget.
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  Speaker 9: There's never been.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody that's been so tough and around.
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  Speaker 3: They should have been done by Clinton and Barack Hussein
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  Speaker 3: Obama should have been done by Biden. It should have
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  Speaker 3: been done by Bush, could have been done by a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people.
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  Speaker 4: This has been going on for forty seven years.
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  Speaker 3: They've ripped you off for forty seven years, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: the only one that did anything of it.
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  Speaker 4: They never shot missiles and anybody.
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  Speaker 3: We wiped out their navy, we wiped out their military,
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  Speaker 3: We wiped out their air force.
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  Speaker 4: They have no anti aircraft, they have no radar.
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  Speaker 3: You know the reason oil stayed lows because we were
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  Speaker 3: taking ships.
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  Speaker 4: Out every night that you didn't even know about.
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  Speaker 3: Two days ago, three days ago, a month ago, we
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  Speaker 3: took out twenty two ships.
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  Speaker 4: We averaged from fifteen to twenty five ships.
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  Speaker 1: Crude oil down. In fact, crude oil is at seventy
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  Speaker 1: six dollars and fifty six cents announce as we speak.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewett, joined now by Sarah C.
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  Speaker 1: Bedford to The Washington Examiner, one of our go to reporters. Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: about a month ago, maybe thirty three days ago, you
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  Speaker 1: wrote that the Republicans were hoping for Reconciliation three point
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  Speaker 1: zero and that it would have security in it, would
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  Speaker 1: have fives in, it would have Save Act in it.
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  Speaker 1: I am now down to just wanting the defense appropriation
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  Speaker 1: done because we've got some serious gaps in our military
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  Speaker 1: that were revealed by the forty days of war with Iran.
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  Speaker 1: What are you putting the odds at a reconciliation three
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  Speaker 1: point zero dealing with the one point five trillion dollar
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  Speaker 1: budget request and maybe out your spending as well.
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  Speaker 10: They're lower.
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  Speaker 11: They're lower than when I wrote that article, and that
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  Speaker 11: was when I interviewed the White House Legislative EFARIS director
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  Speaker 11: James Braiden. At the time, the White House was signaling
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  Speaker 11: a lot of confidence and Thune and Johnson were both
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  Speaker 11: sort of agreeing that this could get done. I think
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  Speaker 11: a few things have happened since then. One is that
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  Speaker 11: it took Reconciliation two point zero longer to get done
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  Speaker 11: than anyone would have thought, and that contained a lot
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  Speaker 11: of inoffensive things for Republicans.
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  Speaker 10: It wasn't a big multipart deal.
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  Speaker 11: Like what recon three point zero was initially envisioned.
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  Speaker 12: As by the White House and Republicans.
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  Speaker 11: Since then, you've had continuing angst about the Iran war
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  Speaker 11: and now this deal that isn't necessarily filled with enough
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  Speaker 11: details for Republicans so far to get their heads around
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  Speaker 11: whether they support it. And you also have the regular
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  Speaker 11: appropriations process continuing in the background while Republicans talk about
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  Speaker 11: reconciliation three point zero, and there's a sense among appropriators
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  Speaker 11: who tend to get along pretty well, and this isn't
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  Speaker 11: always a.
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  Speaker 10: Nasty partisan food fight.
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  Speaker 13: The field that having some of the funding come through
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  Speaker 13: a supplemental through the reconciliation process, which is party line,
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  Speaker 13: undermines the strength of the appropriations process.
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  Speaker 10: And the NDAA and things like that.
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  Speaker 11: So you have a lot of complicating factors that to
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  Speaker 11: me makes recond a three point zero look.
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  Speaker 10: Less and less likely as we get closer to the midterms.
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  Speaker 1: And the response I would have is that would be
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  Speaker 1: fine in an ordinary time. But what we just saw
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  Speaker 1: is that we have big gaps in our defense. We
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  Speaker 1: don't have interceptors to the extent we need them. We
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  Speaker 1: can't have air superiority without them. We don't have the
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  Speaker 1: missile production lines up and staged. We're behind forty three
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  Speaker 1: months in every destroyer that's being built. Everywhere in the
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  Speaker 1: United States. We've got a searge production. So I'm skip
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  Speaker 1: the Say Act, skip everything else, and just go to
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  Speaker 1: the and like DHS. You know, Senator Collins worked very
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  Speaker 1: quickly with Secretary then Senator Rubio now Secretary of Rubio
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  Speaker 1: for the Cares Act. They did the Paycheck Protection Act
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  Speaker 1: and they got it done in two weeks because they're
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  Speaker 1: serious people. Aren't there enough serious defense hawks around you
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  Speaker 1: at Wicker and Cotton in a room with Collins and
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  Speaker 1: they get Tom Cole and Ken Calvert together. Can't they
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  Speaker 1: get this done?
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  Speaker 10: You would think. But here's the problem with that. It's
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  Speaker 10: that you have a bunch of conservatives in.
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  Speaker 11: The House, some of them in the Senate, who have
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  Speaker 11: been promised by leadership in the White House for months now,
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  Speaker 11: please hold your nose and vote for Recon one point zero,
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  Speaker 11: vote for Recon two point zero. Eventually we're going to
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  Speaker 11: get to a package where we get to the things
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  Speaker 11: on your wish lists, such as parts of the Save
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  Speaker 11: Act that could potentially survive.
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  Speaker 10: The procedural rules in the Senate. So these conservatives have
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  Speaker 10: been holding out hope.
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  Speaker 11: And they've been told by leadership that you will get
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  Speaker 11: your chance to vote on all these other things that
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  Speaker 11: you want. Anti fraud provisions, for example, is something that conservatives.
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  Speaker 12: Would like to see in Reconcilation three point zero.
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  Speaker 11: So for leadership to come out now after all of
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  Speaker 11: that and say, just kidding, it's just going to be
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  Speaker 11: another skinny reconciliation that's only leadership priorities, it's only defense spending.
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  Speaker 10: That will rub some Republicans the wrong way.
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  Speaker 11: And I think you would struggle then to pass something
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  Speaker 11: with only Republican votes when there are Conservatives who would
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  Speaker 11: feel betrayed by that approach.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they might feel betrayed, but the number one job
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  Speaker 1: of the Congress is to provide for the common defense.
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  Speaker 1: And what we just saw is that we are not defended.
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  Speaker 1: And so whatever stock they have in the Save Act
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  Speaker 1: or anything else which good law, they got to wait.
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  Speaker 1: They gotta wait till they win the Congress again. And
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  Speaker 1: the way to win the Congress again is they show
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  Speaker 1: that they're serious about defense. Do the appropriators worry about
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  Speaker 1: losing juice, because I can't believe Susan Collins would be
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  Speaker 1: worried about losing Jews.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I think Susan Collins has said, you know, our
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  Speaker 11: priority is the regular appropriations process.
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  Speaker 10: The DAA is something that she's.
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  Speaker 11: Focused on right now, for example, And there's questions about,
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  Speaker 11: you know, why if this money is so necessary, why
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  Speaker 11: can't it be done through the regular appropriations process. Why
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  Speaker 11: do we have to bypass the Senate Appropriations Committee and
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  Speaker 11: go through instead you know, reconscilation goes through the Budget
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  Speaker 11: Committee instead, So it cuts the normal appropriators out of
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  Speaker 11: the loop.
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  Speaker 10: In some sense.
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  Speaker 11: And then it's not a bipartisan process, and it's it's different.
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  Speaker 11: And so the reconciliation bill is open to again partisan
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  Speaker 11: priorities the Conservatives want to see and so it just
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  Speaker 11: breaks down the relations.
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  Speaker 10: The vibes in the Senate.
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  Speaker 11: And so that is why you see Susan Collins and
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  Speaker 11: others coming out and saying, do we really need a
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  Speaker 11: third reconciliation bill? Can we just do this through the
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  Speaker 11: regular process?
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  Speaker 1: And does anyone stand up and say pound the table
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  Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is different. We're at a war.
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  Speaker 1: It's a war that might start up again in sixty
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  Speaker 1: days or one hundred and fifty days, and we haven't
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  Speaker 1: got what we need and we're going to go buy it,
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  Speaker 1: and we have to get a demand signal. That's like
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  Speaker 1: the bat signal in the sky, and yeah, I told
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  Speaker 1: you we weren't going to do a reconciliation three point
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  Speaker 1: zero unless we put your pet projects in it. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We're in a war with a very, very,
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  Speaker 1: very evil regime. Does that not cut it with quote
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  Speaker 1: conservatives because they're not very conservative.
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  Speaker 10: If that doesn't work, it's tough.
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  Speaker 11: It's even more complicated by the fact that the war
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  Speaker 11: is politically unpopular, and some conservatives might see a vote
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  Speaker 11: to fund the war as a proxy for support for
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  Speaker 11: the war and fear that that's something that could be
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  Speaker 11: held against them by MAGA in the future. So that
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  Speaker 11: sell While it makes a logical sense, a lot of
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  Speaker 11: that money, as you point out, has already been spent, right,
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  Speaker 11: the munitions have been fired. But I think conservatives would
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  Speaker 11: find it difficult to swallow that pill, given that they
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  Speaker 11: don't support the conflict in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: Sarah, Okay, I understand what you're saying. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's how a Republican facing, at least a Republican on
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  Speaker 1: the ballot not voting for a war budget when we're
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  Speaker 1: in a war budget. Last word to you, I know
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  Speaker 1: you lose Rand Paul, but who else do you lose
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  Speaker 1: on a war budget that's a three year war budget.
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  Speaker 11: Well, the problem is that Trump has sort of created
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  Speaker 11: this lame duck caucus of people who don't have an
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  Speaker 11: interest in helping him out of any sort of political binds.
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  Speaker 11: You have people like Cassidy who's come out and already
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  Speaker 11: just ripped the deal apart the MoU I'm saying it's
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  Speaker 11: a huge strategic blunder. So you'd have a Mitch McConnell,
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  Speaker 11: who showed himself to vote against a lot of things
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  Speaker 11: that Trump wants to get done here in these.
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  Speaker 10: Last few years in the Senate.
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  Speaker 11: So there are some people in the side that I
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  Speaker 11: could see voting against that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know McConnell and Cassidy, John Cornyn, they're
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  Speaker 1: patriots and they've always been strong to fence people. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see, and I'll keep coming back to Sarah Bedford
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  Speaker 1: for updates on Reconciliation three point zero. Sarah Bedford, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Follow on exit, Sarah see Bedford. I'll be right back
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  Speaker 1: in America at stay ted all right, I mean grace America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Hewitt, so please, so welcome back to begin this
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  Speaker 1: hour number two of today's program. Senator deb Fisher from
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  Speaker 1: the Great State of Nebraska. Senator Fisher, good to see
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  Speaker 1: you again. I can't think of a better senator because
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  Speaker 1: you are one of the only two that I think
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  Speaker 1: in the Republicans that sit on both appropriations and armed services.
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  Speaker 1: You and Senator Collins. Am I right about that. You're
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  Speaker 1: the only two switchovers.
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  Speaker 14: As the Cender Rounds Center Rounds and I are both
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  Speaker 14: on armed services and on appropriations.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So tomorrow in Fox News I'll be arguing
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  Speaker 1: that the most important thing that the Senate in the
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  Speaker 1: House can do right now is past reconciliation three point
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  Speaker 1: zero and focus it only on defense because we saw
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  Speaker 1: a lot of shortages laid bare in the forty day
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  Speaker 1: war with Iran. What are the chances of reconciliation three
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  Speaker 1: point zero on pentagon spending?
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  Speaker 7: I hope they are open.
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  Speaker 14: I hope it's still a good opportunity that we can
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  Speaker 14: take advantage of Hugh if we need to. But as
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  Speaker 14: you said, I am on appropriations, and I think it's
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  Speaker 14: more important to be able to fund the government the
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  Speaker 14: way we're supposed to and have that open process, transparency,
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  Speaker 14: make Republicans and make Democrats vote on appropriations bills, but
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  Speaker 14: I am open to reconciliation. You know, the defense of
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  Speaker 14: this country is our number one responsibility. And if Democrats
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  Speaker 14: aren't going to work with us on appropriation bills, and
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  Speaker 14: it sounds like they are not going to work with us,
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  Speaker 14: even though we did work together as a committee, I
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  Speaker 14: don't think they're going to vote for any of them,
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  Speaker 14: then yes, I am open to reconciliation. We need to
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  Speaker 14: make sure.
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  Speaker 7: That we provide our men and women in the military
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  Speaker 7: with the resources they need.
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  Speaker 14: To accomplish their missions to defend this country.
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  Speaker 1: Senator, you've got that advantage point. You have to authorize
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  Speaker 1: what's going to be built and used by the American military,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have to pay for it. And there
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  Speaker 1: are two committees. One authorizes, one appropriates, and you're on
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  Speaker 1: both of them. What did the war teach you about
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  Speaker 1: what we need the most right now in the American military?
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  Speaker 14: Arsenal, Well, we need to, I think recognize what our
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  Speaker 14: threats are and we have two peer nuclear adversaries.
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  Speaker 7: We have lost a lot of munitions.
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  Speaker 14: It's something that I've focused on for about four years.
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  Speaker 14: How we need to build up our munitions again. We
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  Speaker 14: saw that right after Russia invaded Ukraine, and you look
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  Speaker 14: at what we've.
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  Speaker 7: Expended now in Iran. We need to focus on that.
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  Speaker 14: We need to continue on with the modernization of our
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  Speaker 14: nuclear triad. We need to work on our missile defense
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  Speaker 14: Golden Dome.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: We have to be able to have.
• 16:58
  Speaker 14: That protection our homeland so we can first of all,
• 17:03
  Speaker 14: detect what's coming at us, identify it, and then destroy.
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: It if needed. We need to make sure we have
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: that missile defense.
• 17:11
  Speaker 14: So there's any number of things, but I think what
• 17:16
  Speaker 14: I'm most concerned about is just being able to keep
• 17:19
  Speaker 14: these programs that I've mentioned moving ahead.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: While we're still able to.
• 17:26
  Speaker 14: Also focus on munitions and drones and the capabilities that
• 17:31
  Speaker 14: we need in order to take care of any conflict
• 17:37
  Speaker 14: we may have in the future.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you just took the words out of my column
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: missiles and drones. We have a brand new kind of war,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and it's a war where we send missiles and bombs
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and tom Hawk missiles and Quiz missiles, and they send
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: over their missiles and we don't have enough interceptors, and
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: our allies don't have enough interceptors, and we don't know
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: how to deal with drones. And I think we could
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: surge a lot of money and put up a demand
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: signal for Ukrainian style innovation and production. If the bad
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: signal goes up and says the money is here for
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: three years. Is that something you talk about in the committee?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: Yes, you know all the time. How can we.
• 18:18
  Speaker 14: Move faster, how can we manufacture here in this country
• 18:22
  Speaker 14: what we need and also to supply our allies with
• 18:27
  Speaker 14: what they need.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: But our first concern is right here with our homeland
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: to be able to protect that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 14: I mean, we discuss you being able to work with
• 18:37
  Speaker 14: Ukrainians because of their experience with drones and to work
• 18:41
  Speaker 14: with them and learn from them on what they face.
• 18:44
  Speaker 14: We talk about using AI and in a positive way,
• 18:49
  Speaker 14: to use AI to be able to identify any offensive
• 18:55
  Speaker 14: drune formations that may be coming at our troops and
• 19:00
  Speaker 14: respond quicker to those drones that are coming in.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: So on many fronts we are working.
• 19:08
  Speaker 14: We are looking at technology, We are looking at training
• 19:12
  Speaker 14: of our men and women in the military to be
• 19:14
  Speaker 14: able to take advantage of this new technology. There's a
• 19:19
  Speaker 14: lot of innovation that's going on here in the United States.
• 19:23
  Speaker 14: That's a message I think I would like to send.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: To your listeners.
• 19:28
  Speaker 14: There's a lot of innovation going on that is certainly
• 19:33
  Speaker 14: going to help with our national security, but we have
• 19:37
  Speaker 14: to have the result to be able to provide the
• 19:40
  Speaker 14: resources so that our military has that and that means
• 19:47
  Speaker 14: being able to have that one point five trillion. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 14: am supportive of what President Trump wants to do there.
• 19:54
  Speaker 14: You know, an MDAA we only authorized up to one
• 19:58
  Speaker 14: point one which is still a good number, but it
• 20:03
  Speaker 14: doesn't it doesn't recognize all the needs we do. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 14: that's another point for reconciliation and the focus there to
• 20:11
  Speaker 14: be able to look at Golden Dome, to be able
• 20:14
  Speaker 14: to look at munitions and continue what we need and
• 20:19
  Speaker 14: money to move those programs forward.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I also think another point in favor of reconciliation is
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to be a realist about politics.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I think the Republican Party is going to lose control
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of the House simply because of the title Charts of
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: American political History, it's the sixth year of a presidency.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They never do well in the House in the sixth year,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: even if we hold onto the Senate, and that's closer
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: than I would like, but we being Republican, if the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: House is gone, even if you retain the Senate majority,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: do you think any serious defense spending will get done.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: I'd like to say yes, but I'm unsure about that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 14: And I think the people of this country need to
• 20:59
  Speaker 14: recognize which party takes national security seriously and right now,
• 21:06
  Speaker 14: who is stepping forward and voting for NDAA and who
• 21:11
  Speaker 14: is going to step forward and vote for funding for
• 21:15
  Speaker 14: our national defense through appropriations.
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: The American people need.
• 21:20
  Speaker 14: To see how we vote, and they need to take
• 21:22
  Speaker 14: that seriously when they consider balance.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Come November, Sarah Fisher, if Leader Thune went to Chairwoman
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Collins and Chairman Wicker, and maybe Senate Intel Committee Tom Cotton,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: chair and then a couple other and said, get me
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a reconciliation three, I will go sell it in the House.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: When COVID hit Cares Act, including the Pay and Protection Act,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: was done in weeks, is it possible to do a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: reconciliation in weeks as opposed to months or waiting for
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the election.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: I don't believe that the leader is an issue here.
• 22:03
  Speaker 14: You know, I think he is very very strong when
• 22:07
  Speaker 14: it comes to national security, when it comes to defense,
• 22:11
  Speaker 14: But Leader Thune always talks about it's the math and
• 22:16
  Speaker 14: vote switch. You know this even in our own conference,
• 22:21
  Speaker 14: we have members who don't vote on appropriations.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: Bills for defense.
• 22:28
  Speaker 14: That we have some at at times they don't vote
• 22:31
  Speaker 14: for MDAA either. So it's up to the numbers, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: we have to be realistic about that when it comes
• 22:39
  Speaker 14: to reconciliation, heck, when it comes when it comes to
• 22:42
  Speaker 14: any bill, we can't depend on Democrats for votes. So
• 22:46
  Speaker 14: we've got to come together as Republicans and make sure
• 22:50
  Speaker 14: that we are not in a circular firing squad shooting
• 22:55
  Speaker 14: at each other.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: That we have that we have a goal, that we have.
• 22:59
  Speaker 14: A mission, and that is to provide our country what
• 23:03
  Speaker 14: we need, whether it's through reconciliation for defense. And you know, Hugh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 14: there's going to be Republicans who are going to be
• 23:12
  Speaker 14: leary about voting for that. We need to come together
• 23:16
  Speaker 14: and we have to be able to vote together on that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: God bless Senator Paul. But I'm only counting on fifty
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: two votes for reconciliation for defense. I've already taken his
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: chess piece off the board. Maybe he'll surprise us. Is
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: there anyone else that's shaped you in the conference?
• 23:33
  Speaker 14: You know, it depends on I think how the package
• 23:37
  Speaker 14: is put together. I guess at this point in time,
• 23:41
  Speaker 14: I worry more about the House. You know, it's just
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: such a narrow majority.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: That we have in the House.
• 23:48
  Speaker 14: I was never in the House. I don't understand how
• 23:52
  Speaker 14: that works, but I do know that if you want
• 23:55
  Speaker 14: to get something done in the House.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: It shirts the skins, and here again, Republics can better
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: stick together.
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: I don't know if the Speaker is going to be
• 24:04
  Speaker 14: able to get that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Done or not.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope you do, and I hope it starts
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: in the Senate, because if you give them an accomplished product,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that's a lot easier to deal with than letting them
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: try and figure it out. That got serious appropriators and
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: defense people over there as well. Senator deb Fisher of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Nebraska always good to talk to. I appreciate having someone
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: on both committees like you and Senator Collins, and I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: got to remember Senator Rounds as well, can do this
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: heavy lifting. Thank you for your time. I'll be right back, America.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. Rick Raber of the Bradley Foundation, isn't
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: it Welcome back America. Richard Graber is the CEO of
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the Lynn and Harry Bradley Foundation, which you've been doing
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: great work in America for a long time. He's also
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the author, along with Hannah Scanderra, who I've never met,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: who's the CEO of the Daniels Foundation. Rick, welcome. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: want to talk to you about why you felt right
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: now was the time to come out in newsweek and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: write about the great institutions to keep America great.
• 25:09
  Speaker 15: It seemed an appropriate thing to do on this the
• 25:12
  Speaker 15: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the signing of the Declaration.
• 25:17
  Speaker 15: You read so many polls these days about lack of
• 25:21
  Speaker 15: trust and institutions, lack of good feelings about the United
• 25:26
  Speaker 15: States of America, when it should be just the opposite
• 25:30
  Speaker 15: right now, and we both thought, Hannah and I thought
• 25:32
  Speaker 15: that talking about our benefactors lined in Harry Bradley at
• 25:37
  Speaker 15: the Bradley Foundation, Bill Daniels at Daniels Fund, was an
• 25:43
  Speaker 15: important thing to do.
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: Both are great American stories.
• 25:48
  Speaker 15: In the case of the Bradley Brothers, who was two
• 25:50
  Speaker 15: brothers who grew up with absolutely nothing on the East
• 25:54
  Speaker 15: side of Milwaukee and ultimately built an amazing company called
• 25:58
  Speaker 15: the Alan Bradley Cumpany, which ultimately sold in the mid
• 26:03
  Speaker 15: nineteen eighties for a price at that time was the
• 26:06
  Speaker 15: largest sale of a privately held business ever.
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: But what was.
• 26:10
  Speaker 15: Important was the appreciation that the brothers had for why
• 26:16
  Speaker 15: they were able to accomplish that. Yes, it was their
• 26:20
  Speaker 15: persistence getting up off the ground after failures and starting
• 26:26
  Speaker 15: over again, but they understood that the institutions of this
• 26:31
  Speaker 15: country are what enabled that success in addition to their
• 26:35
  Speaker 15: hard work.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate it. The article, by the way, is
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: in newswak and anyone can go and find that. The
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: title of it is protect the institutional structure of the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: American exceptionalism, of which you named three, and I want
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: to go to those three. Rick number one first is
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the role of law. Our constitution and legal system creates
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: stability that allows people to take risks, invest, build and
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: plan with confidence that rights will be defended. I can't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: overstate how this is actually the whole Enngilada. If for example,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: we have court packing, it will be gone in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: blink if that happens.
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 27:13
  Speaker 15: I mean, the rule of law, unlike many places around
• 27:16
  Speaker 15: the world, creates certainty that creates confidence, doesn't guarantee results,
• 27:23
  Speaker 15: but generates.
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: A sense that you're going to be treated fairly by.
• 27:28
  Speaker 15: A judicial system that is based on law, not on personality,
• 27:34
  Speaker 15: not on a particular mood one day. You're right, it's incredibly,
• 27:40
  Speaker 15: incredibly important for anyone engaging business or in anything in
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: our society.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: It's why every Supreme Court nominees in truth, Bader Ginsburg
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: has refused to comment on cases that might come before
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the court for the simple reason they don't want a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: litigant to believe that their case has been pre judged. Otherwise,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it's not the rule of law. But packing the court
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: would be a disaster. We have to come back, and.
• 28:05
  Speaker 15: Justine Ginsberg herself said that that was a horrible idea.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and it's looming out there like the Iceberg.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Our Titanic could run into. Number two. Second, is a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: strong civil society. From its inceptions, Americans have relied on families,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: religious congregations, neighborhood groups, and voluntary associations to solve problems. Rick,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: do you think that that's weakened at all? And I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: don't mean just the secretarian church attendant that's down, though
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it might be coming back up, but Rotari and Kawana
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: is in the American legion and literally everything that goes
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: into civil society.
• 28:41
  Speaker 15: The statistics would say that it has, and it's something
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: that we've got to work to preserve other more than ever.
• 28:49
  Speaker 15: I mean, you could see this in the way the
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: brothers ran their company, that they cared deeply about their community,
• 28:55
  Speaker 15: and they believe that the way to solve problems in
• 28:57
  Speaker 15: our society, and certainly they're a lot of problems is
• 29:01
  Speaker 15: not through more government programs.
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: It's through.
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: Those little platoons, neighborhood groups, of voluntary associations. Every community
• 29:12
  Speaker 15: has them. We have them here in Milwaukee. Bradley Foundation
• 29:15
  Speaker 15: invests in those organizations to make this a stronger community.
• 29:19
  Speaker 15: But it is one of those things that truly does
• 29:23
  Speaker 15: make this country unique and exceptional.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know much about the Bradley brothers, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I mispronounced Line's name. I thought it would Lynn, but
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: it's Lined Bradley. Yes, what did they do in their
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: lifetimes in Milwaukee? I'm really curious about that. Were they
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: reinvesting their profits even as they were alive, into the community.
• 29:45
  Speaker 15: Oh sure, I mean you look at their own giving,
• 29:47
  Speaker 15: their own philanthropic giving.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: And it took them a long time.
• 29:50
  Speaker 15: I mean their company, the Allen Bradley Company, was near
• 29:55
  Speaker 15: bankrupt multiple times. They partnered with a corrupt partner in
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: Michigan that almost put them under, but they kept coming
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: back and coming back, and ultimately it clicked. But in
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: their own personal giving, it was to the boys and
• 30:12
  Speaker 15: Girls clubs, it was to the arts, it was those
• 30:16
  Speaker 15: things that bind people together as a community. They gave
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: a lot to higher education. They believe that an informed
• 30:23
  Speaker 15: citizenry was one of the keys to the puzzle to
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: having a great democracy in this country. So yes, you
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: can see it in their living in during their lives,
• 30:34
  Speaker 15: and then ultimately when the company sold, which was twenty
• 30:37
  Speaker 15: years after the younger brother, Harry had passed away. It's
• 30:40
  Speaker 15: something that we try to do every day at the
• 30:42
  Speaker 15: Bradley Foundation to fulfill their mission, their vision. It's their money,
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: not ours, and we try to do it in a
• 30:49
  Speaker 15: way that they'd be proud.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Now would that every trustee of every foundation leapt to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: keep the original donors mission in mind. Let me finish
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: with the third institution that you talk about in the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Peace and newsweek, an informed citizenry. A free society depends
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: on citizens who can think theoretically, debate honestly, and pass
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: on both knowledge and civic habits to the next generation.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: All right, this is the slow moving giant glacier of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a crisis, which is literacy declining among our children, as
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: is the habit of reading, as is reading serious and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: at depth. What can be done about that?
• 31:29
  Speaker 15: Well. One of the things the Bradley Foundation has worked
• 31:31
  Speaker 15: on almost since its inception is school choice, giving parents
• 31:35
  Speaker 15: the opportunity to decide what's best for their kids. It
• 31:39
  Speaker 15: is a massive problem in this country. There's not a
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: large urban area in this country where kids are performing
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: well in the public schools. School choice started here in Milwaukee.
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: Now today almost half the kids in Milwaukee of school
• 31:54
  Speaker 15: age are going to a non traditional public school. But
• 31:57
  Speaker 15: it's taken thirty five years to do that. One of
• 32:01
  Speaker 15: the ways out of this, I think, is to empower parents.
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: Take it away from the bureaucreds, take it away from
• 32:06
  Speaker 15: the unions, put it in the hands of parents, and give.
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: Kids that opportunity.
• 32:11
  Speaker 15: It's a civil right to a good education, and our
• 32:14
  Speaker 15: kids are not getting it today.
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: It's a massive problem.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Senator Cruz put into the Working Family's Tax cut bill
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: last year an opportunity for every state to opt in
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to a school choice that would be of great benefit.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Do you see it working, right, because you keep your
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: finger on this pulse. I hope it's working, but I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's working.
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, can school choice? Is school choice being successful?
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: Is that your Yeah?
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially the Crew program which said come on in,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: everyone will give you. We'll match your money up to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars or eighteen hundred dollars a federal tax credit.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Tax credit.
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the tax credit. Yeah. I mean we're at the
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: front end of that. We'll see.
• 32:53
  Speaker 15: I think it's an important piece of the puzzle. Interestingly,
• 32:57
  Speaker 15: the governor Wisconsin, Tony Evers, did not opt in, so
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: anyone making those scholarship decisions here in Wisconsin, that money
• 33:05
  Speaker 15: won't go to Wisconsin kids.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: It'll go around the country. It's a good step forward, Rick.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: A great piece. It is called Protect the Institutions that
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: sustain American Exceptionalism. Rick Raeber and Hannah have written that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: in the new Newsweek edition. Go and google it, look
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it up. I'll post it over it my ex account
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: as well. Good to talk to you, Rick. Don't go
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: anywhere America. I'm YouTube. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewett.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Join now by former United States Senator Jim Talent. Jim
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Tallon is a senior Fellow in the Reagan Institute for
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Peace through Strength. Senator Talent, I want to cover two things.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Number one, your reaction to MLU as we understand it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And number two, can we get a reconciliation three point
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: zero in a hurry, because BOYD does that war show
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: us what we need. Take number one MLU reaction.
• 33:55
  Speaker 16: I think provisionally it's a good deal. You I have
• 33:58
  Speaker 16: some questions. I mean, insofar as the core of the
• 34:02
  Speaker 16: deal is they stop threatening them Straight, we lift the
• 34:05
  Speaker 16: blockade then and the Straight returns to the status quo ante.
• 34:10
  Speaker 16: I think it's a very good deal because it locks
• 34:12
  Speaker 16: in the enormous damage we have inflicted upon their military,
• 34:16
  Speaker 16: their military industrial base, and their economy, and we just
• 34:19
  Speaker 16: go back to where we were before they threatened the
• 34:22
  Speaker 16: Straight and before the blockade. Now, the issue I have,
• 34:25
  Speaker 16: and I've talked about this in the show before, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 16: don't I mean the nuclear stuff. President Trump is absolutely right,
• 34:31
  Speaker 16: we can manage that going forward. As a matter of fact,
• 34:34
  Speaker 16: we can manage iron going forward. They were a deadly threat.
• 34:38
  Speaker 16: They're now a problem, along with many others in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 16: Middle East.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: We have to manage.
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: But the deal talks about lifting sanctions or waving sanctions,
• 34:47
  Speaker 16: and so the question I would ask is what are
• 34:50
  Speaker 16: we going to be lifting or waving?
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: When are we going to do it? And what does
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: it depend on?
• 34:54
  Speaker 16: Because I don't mind giving them a little something, but no,
• 34:58
  Speaker 16: I don't want to say we're going to abandon, you know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 16: our regime of sanctions and other economic tools to constrain Roun.
• 35:06
  Speaker 16: But visionally, I'm I think it's a pretty good way
• 35:10
  Speaker 16: to get out of the war and get a oil
• 35:12
  Speaker 16: prices down and get the get the region stable again.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: It's a letter of intent to come to an agreement
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that can be extended again and again. So I expected
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to be extended for ninety days after the sixty and
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: then to go back to war. That's what I think
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: is going to happen because we got to get through
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the election. We want gas prices down, and that'll be
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: fine by me. But in the meantime, can we get
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: a reconciliation through? Because boy, did this war reveal a lot?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: What did it reveal to you about the needs of
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: our military, gym talent?
• 35:43
  Speaker 16: Well, in all candor, it didn't reveal a lot because
• 35:45
  Speaker 16: I knew it. You know, this has been a big
• 35:47
  Speaker 16: issue of mine ever since I went into the Congress Center.
• 35:50
  Speaker 16: Should I tell you how long ago that was, you
• 35:52
  Speaker 16: It was nineteen ninety two. I was probably the biggest
• 35:55
  Speaker 16: defense hawk in both the House and the Senate. And Okay,
• 36:00
  Speaker 16: going to go in a rant about that, but you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 16: I know we needed money into the defense industrial base.
• 36:05
  Speaker 16: We also need reform, and I like what Hexeth is
• 36:08
  Speaker 16: doing his acquisition transformation strategy. So yes, we need another
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: big defense bill. And you know I'd vote for it
• 36:19
  Speaker 16: any way I could get it, and I think right
• 36:22
  Speaker 16: now the leadership will support it. You if the President
• 36:25
  Speaker 16: wants it, The issue is do they have the votes,
• 36:27
  Speaker 16: and particularly in the House, if we had a forty
• 36:29
  Speaker 16: vote majority in the House, it probably already would have
• 36:33
  Speaker 16: done it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 36:34
  Speaker 16: Here's what I listened to Sarah's interview. Boys, she's sharp,
• 36:38
  Speaker 16: She's really sharp. Here's what I will say to you.
• 36:42
  Speaker 16: I think the chances of getting it are going to
• 36:44
  Speaker 16: increase the more intransigent the Democrats are on the regular
• 36:48
  Speaker 16: appropriations process, because that will inspire party loyalty, particularly in
• 36:54
  Speaker 16: the House. So right now I doubt that they have
• 36:58
  Speaker 16: the votes, particularly in the House.
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: But let's see what happens.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Senator Fisher just said at length. But you said succinctly,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: which is I don't know that we have the votes,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: but we do need to spend it. I want to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: read you what Dean Cohen Elliott Cohen of the Johns
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Hopkins School of International Strategic Studies wrote or said to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Aaron McLain yesterday on the School of War podcast. Our
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: procurement system is not designed for serious war fighting. You
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: can see in this conflict the consequences of having had
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: effortless superiority for a long time. He meant air superiority.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: We don't have that anymore, Jim Tallon. We have a
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: missile gap, we have an interceptor gap, we've got a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: drone gap, and we got to fill it in a hurry.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: That's why I want him to do a reconciliation.
• 37:48
  Speaker 16: Yeah, we had air superiority you, but we did not
• 37:51
  Speaker 16: have air supremacy. And it is concerning that in a
• 37:58
  Speaker 16: battle against you know, not a first world military, I
• 38:02
  Speaker 16: mean Iran is not a peer competitor. They had substantial
• 38:05
  Speaker 16: capabilities that we were not able to establish absolute air superiority,
• 38:11
  Speaker 16: which is really what air supremacy is so yes, and
• 38:14
  Speaker 16: munitions have.
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: Been a problem for a long time.
• 38:17
  Speaker 16: And the reason is you that the services are committed
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: to their core acquisition programs, you know, for example, the
• 38:25
  Speaker 16: new long range bomber, and if they don't have enough money,
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: they got to cut something. And so what they will
• 38:31
  Speaker 16: do is is cut, among other things, munitions and maintain
• 38:36
  Speaker 16: inadequate stockpiles on the assumption that we're not going to
• 38:39
  Speaker 16: get into a big enough war that we're going to
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: exhaust it. So, I mean, there's all kinds of reasons
• 38:45
  Speaker 16: that this happens. It traces back to the fact that
• 38:48
  Speaker 16: in the nineties and the auts and really until Trump's
• 38:51
  Speaker 16: first turn, we were inadequately funding the military, and then
• 38:55
  Speaker 16: the sequester ended up cutting another five or six hundred
• 38:59
  Speaker 16: billion dollar out of the budget. So we're still trying
• 39:02
  Speaker 16: to recover. The administration's doing a good job, but we're
• 39:06
  Speaker 16: going to have problems for a while.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: You, Jim, I'm going to ask you to stick around
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: for the three minute segment and think about the answer
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to this, which is, if you think for sure the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: House is going to flip to the Democrats because of
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the title Charts of American Politics, it always does. We
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: got a four vote margin. If you believe that, and
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I believe that, I think Mike Lahler is dead man
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: walking and a few others. If you believe that, we
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: not to go for broke and not only fund the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: one point five trillion but the out years in other words,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: due for the Pentagon. What Reconciliation two point zero did
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: for the Department of Homeland Security. You get to start
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: your answer now, and then I'll break it off and
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: have to come back and finish it. What do you think?
• 39:51
  Speaker 16: Well, as for me, I mean you I'd vote for
• 39:54
  Speaker 16: more money anyway I could get it. You're not going
• 39:57
  Speaker 16: to get like a three year budget for the Department
• 40:02
  Speaker 16: of Defense out of the Congress. And that's not just
• 40:05
  Speaker 16: that the appropriators are jealous of their territory. I mean
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: Congress needs to oversee the department, and that does mean
• 40:12
  Speaker 16: having control of appropriations. I mean there are a lot
• 40:16
  Speaker 16: of programs we should fund on a multi year basis,
• 40:19
  Speaker 16: but not all of them. Now, what we could get
• 40:21
  Speaker 16: is a supplemental or additional funding in particular areas where
• 40:25
  Speaker 16: we think the Democrats may have a you know, it
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: may be especially unwilling the Democrats in the House to fund.
• 40:32
  Speaker 16: But I think the prospect of the Democrats taking the
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: House is going to be a real reason to push
• 40:38
  Speaker 16: for reconciliation this year.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to pray during the break that Jim
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: has a moment of the Holy ghost recognition that we've
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: got to go for four and a half trillion dollars
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: because the Democrats will mind all the marcial defense. Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I know, but we've got to persuade people. Okay, when
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: we come back, we'll talk about how to persuade people,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: because really we can't do this anymore. But we've seen
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the enemy and we can't stop his missiles. It's that simple.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned. Jim Talent will be right back. Welcome back
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: in America. I'm back with former United States Senator Jim
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Tallent now the Reagan Institution. So, Senator Talent, what's the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: best argument to make to your colleagues who are still
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: in the Senate, whom you see and imbbe with and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: talk to and kabash with. What's the best argument.
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: For strong defense spending. I mean, some of them, some
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: of them just get it.
• 41:35
  Speaker 16: Most of them are not familiar enough with the Department
• 41:38
  Speaker 16: of Defense or Department of War.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Or capabilities what we need to be able to do.
• 41:44
  Speaker 16: I mean, they're not defense experts if they're not on
• 41:47
  Speaker 16: the Armed Services committees. In theory, they want a very
• 41:49
  Speaker 16: strong defense, explaining what that means, why we need a
• 41:54
  Speaker 16: big navy, you know why long range precision strike is
• 41:57
  Speaker 16: so important, the drones, they've read about all that stuff.
• 42:01
  Speaker 16: You're not gonna you know, you're not going to turn
• 42:03
  Speaker 16: them into defense experts. The best arguments are Look for
• 42:07
  Speaker 16: the Republicans, the President wants this, he needs it. These
• 42:11
  Speaker 16: are the threats that are out there. We have to
• 42:13
  Speaker 16: be strong, and that's enough to convince them. But the
• 42:17
  Speaker 16: issues with reconciliation right now are there are other things
• 42:20
  Speaker 16: that they want and that they've been promised. What Sarah
• 42:23
  Speaker 16: said is correct, and so you've got to put him
• 42:26
  Speaker 16: in a situation where they understand, Look, there is no
• 42:29
  Speaker 16: way you can get those things. They're not going to pass,
• 42:32
  Speaker 16: but we can still get the defense money. Now, come on,
• 42:37
  Speaker 16: we'll keep working for it. We want to get the
• 42:39
  Speaker 16: save ac we want, which I do and you do
• 42:41
  Speaker 16: and everybody does. But let's make certain that America can
• 42:45
  Speaker 16: defend itself. I'm going to call from the president, is.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: It fair to argue that, Look, there are thirteen dead
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: soldiers because we did not have missile defense at all
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of our bases. There are Arab allies who will not
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: go to war with us because we can't protect their
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: dcell plant in their oil field. We have to change
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the fundamental equation or we'll never be rid of this
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: meddlesome iran, Is that a fair argument?
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: Okay?
• 43:11
  Speaker 16: If you want me to play a devil's advocate, then
• 43:13
  Speaker 16: I would come back and say, wait a minute, if
• 43:15
  Speaker 16: you include the money that we put in the big
• 43:18
  Speaker 16: beautiful bill, they had a trillion dollars last year. I mean,
• 43:22
  Speaker 16: and look at all the money that they waste. Well,
• 43:26
  Speaker 16: unfortunately you they do waste a lot of money. And
• 43:29
  Speaker 16: why can't I have what I want on this bill?
• 43:32
  Speaker 16: You all agree that we need it. So I don't understand.
• 43:35
  Speaker 16: I'm constantly being called on to vote for things and
• 43:39
  Speaker 16: my priorities never get passed. So you see how the
• 43:41
  Speaker 16: dialogue goes. Look, I was the legislative leader in the
• 43:45
  Speaker 16: Missouri Legislature. I was on the whip team all my
• 43:48
  Speaker 16: years in the House. In the Senate, you have to
• 43:50
  Speaker 16: bring people along, you have to convince them on their terms.
• 43:54
  Speaker 16: And particularly in the Senate, but even in the House,
• 43:57
  Speaker 16: you can't browbeat them into it. But I think they
• 43:59
  Speaker 16: can get this if the Democrats once again just say
• 44:04
  Speaker 16: we're not passing any appropriations bills, we're filibustering everything that
• 44:08
  Speaker 16: will encourage tribal loyalty on the Republican side, and then
• 44:12
  Speaker 16: and then we can probably get it. My guess is
• 44:15
  Speaker 16: that's what Johnson is planning to do.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Gosh, I hope, I hope they do move, and they
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: move on the simple fact that our weaknesses have been
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: exposed and the whole world saw it exposed, and we've
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: got to fix that gap at our net, not our
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: strategic net. Yet our navy needs help. Got to get
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: the carriers back to eleven before the night, missiles and
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: interceptors soon. Jim Talent can be followed on ex Jim Tallent.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Hear them on Tuesday Night on Dwayne's World right here
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: on the Universe, and stay tuned on the sale of
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: News Channel. I'll be right back with Mary Catherine am
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: nosc Rothlam. But I begin the hour with United States
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Senator John Houston of the Great State of Ohio. Senat Houston,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: good to see you again. You're on the perfect committee
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: for me to talk. You're on appropriateations, and I'm bringing
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the bell for reconciliation three point zero on military spending
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that was made obvious in its need by the war.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: What do you think are the prospects of reconciliation three
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: point zero?
• 45:15
  Speaker 17: Well, I think the things that we're talking about, if
• 45:18
  Speaker 17: we're talking about defense supplemental so that we can make
• 45:21
  Speaker 17: sure that America is properly defended against our adversaries around
• 45:25
  Speaker 17: the world, I think there's a lot of momentum for that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 17: I think that I'm also very concerned that the Democrats
• 45:31
  Speaker 17: have no interest.
• 45:32
  Speaker 18: In doing business with us.
• 45:33
  Speaker 17: I think they fully intend to shut down the government
• 45:36
  Speaker 17: again at the end of September, so that would lend
• 45:39
  Speaker 17: itself to a reconciliation process.
• 45:41
  Speaker 18: But I think the appropriators.
• 45:44
  Speaker 17: Want to make sure that we use as a regular
• 45:46
  Speaker 17: order process try to get a budget done on a
• 45:48
  Speaker 17: bipartisan basis with the Democrats. But I have to admit, honestly,
• 45:52
  Speaker 17: I don't think they have any intention of working with us.
• 45:54
  Speaker 17: So we'll go through that process, but we may end
• 45:57
  Speaker 17: up at a reconciliation to get the job done.
• 45:59
  Speaker 18: That or continuing resolution.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: You know, that's very similar to what Senator Fisher told
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: me last hour, and she's also on approps and armed services.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm mostly concerned that we're going to lose the House,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and I don't think we're gonna lose the Senate because
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to win. I think Susan Collins
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is going to win. I think Mike Rogers might upset
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: in Michigan and Mike Wattley might hold on in North Carolina,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and we got other pickup spaces. But I am worried
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and that if the House goes, they won't spend any
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: money on the Pentagon for two years. So does that
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: figure in your calculations on a reconciliation at all, like
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: what you did with DHS, do for d D or DW.
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 46:40
  Speaker 17: Yes, although I'm not going to give up on the House,
• 46:43
  Speaker 17: I still believe that we got a fighting chance there
• 46:45
  Speaker 17: as well. But I'm thinking about it in terms of
• 46:49
  Speaker 17: policy right now. We need to make sure that we
• 46:52
  Speaker 17: fund defense, and we need to make sure we keep
• 46:55
  Speaker 17: the government open.
• 46:56
  Speaker 18: And I'm look, I'm for any.
• 46:59
  Speaker 17: Of the above, but one of the above needs to
• 47:02
  Speaker 17: be successful so that we can.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Deliver now centat Houston, as I watched the war for
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: forty days and then the week of combat that was
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: last week. I saw an American military that has enormous
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: gaps in missile defense and interceptors, and we also have
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: very expensive offensive capability, but it's really really expensive. Is
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: there any way to break glass and pull the alarm
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and surge spending into those areas.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 47:31
  Speaker 17: Remember, we've put a lot of money into defense in
• 47:34
  Speaker 17: the Working Family Tax Cut Plan, big beautiful Bill, whatever
• 47:37
  Speaker 17: you want to call it. We did put some one
• 47:39
  Speaker 17: time money in there for those things. But Hugh, it
• 47:43
  Speaker 17: is we can do this like America, American defense tech
• 47:47
  Speaker 17: Silicon Valley deciding that it wants to be involved in defense,
• 47:50
  Speaker 17: and companies like Andrel and many others are out there
• 47:53
  Speaker 17: building those next generation of weapons, and it's really just
• 47:56
  Speaker 17: about it's really just about ramping that up and pain
• 47:59
  Speaker 17: for and you actually can defend America with less money
• 48:03
  Speaker 17: than some of the expensive weapons systems that we previously
• 48:06
  Speaker 17: depended on. Look, one thing that I hope there's a
• 48:09
  Speaker 17: takeaway from the Iran conflict is we learned militarily. We're
• 48:13
  Speaker 17: learning from what's happening in the Ukraine and Russia. We're
• 48:15
  Speaker 17: learning what's happened militarily from the conflict with Iran, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 17: you're right that.
• 48:20
  Speaker 18: We need to be prepared for that.
• 48:22
  Speaker 17: We need to make an investment in this, and we
• 48:25
  Speaker 17: also need to modernize the weapons of war with these
• 48:31
  Speaker 17: new technologies to prepare for the modern threats. And this
• 48:34
  Speaker 17: is a constant process. You can never fall asleep. I
• 48:37
  Speaker 17: think people a lot of times think, well, if we
• 48:39
  Speaker 17: just do this, then it's enough. No, it's never enough.
• 48:42
  Speaker 17: You got to constantly evolve with the evolving threats.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Now, I know you are deeply involved in getting ANDERIL
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: into Columbus. I had Christian Broson last week, who's the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: president chief strategy officer of ANDERL, and he was talking
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: me through the quarter million square fate and everything that
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: they are doing outside out of Columbus. Are there more
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: defense contractors lined up? I mean, Ohio is the perfect
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: place for a defense contruct You've got all the water
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you need from the lake, you got access to the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: interstate system, You've got a technology university system that's second
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to none. Do you expect more defense people to come
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: to Ohio.
• 49:18
  Speaker 17: Yeah, we're working with them all the time. I mean
• 49:21
  Speaker 17: we have got right Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton,
• 49:24
  Speaker 17: which is the home where the drone, the military drone
• 49:28
  Speaker 17: was invented. You have NASA Glenn where they're involved in
• 49:32
  Speaker 17: all of the propulsion systems for space. You know, the
• 49:35
  Speaker 17: next and the next, the next era of military conflict
• 49:40
  Speaker 17: will be space based in many ways, with satellite technology
• 49:45
  Speaker 17: and other things that we need to target and use
• 49:47
  Speaker 17: artificial intelligence to help assist with some of these weapons systems,
• 49:51
  Speaker 17: and so Ohio is uniquely prepared for that. But now
• 49:56
  Speaker 17: that Silicon Valley literally the defense the the tech sector
• 50:00
  Speaker 17: is now involved in the defense sector. They're pushing our
• 50:05
  Speaker 17: historic prime defense contractors to modernize. They're bringing new weapons
• 50:10
  Speaker 17: systems to the game that will help protect us against
• 50:14
  Speaker 17: our adversaries. But America just needs to realize that if
• 50:18
  Speaker 17: we want to continue to lead, we want to lead militarily,
• 50:21
  Speaker 17: we got to lead from an innovation point of view,
• 50:24
  Speaker 17: and it's going to take an investment.
• 50:26
  Speaker 18: You can't do this on.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: The cheap now center. You're on APPROPS. I don't know
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: how a freshman got on appropse. But you're watching the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Master of the Game, Susan Collins and all these other
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: very experienced appropriators. Is that the committee you want to
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: invest in long term because boy, that would be good
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: for Ohio and for the country.
• 50:44
  Speaker 18: Well, I love Appropriations Committee because it's the heart and
• 50:46
  Speaker 18: soul of government.
• 50:47
  Speaker 17: I want to make government more efficient, I want to
• 50:49
  Speaker 17: make government work. I want to make sure that we're
• 50:53
  Speaker 17: investing things that we're going to get a return on.
• 50:55
  Speaker 17: And I also have deep concerns about spending, you know,
• 51:00
  Speaker 17: in the national debt, the cost of the national debt
• 51:04
  Speaker 17: to or the future of our nation. So I think
• 51:07
  Speaker 17: I think it's a good place to be to be
• 51:09
  Speaker 17: able to affect all those issues. Serve your state and
• 51:11
  Speaker 17: also serve your country, and and get spending.
• 51:15
  Speaker 18: Get spending, make sure our spending is done correctly, crack
• 51:17
  Speaker 18: down on the.
• 51:18
  Speaker 17: Fraud and the things like that that we're seeing, put
• 51:20
  Speaker 17: those put those tools in there to to make the text,
• 51:23
  Speaker 17: to help make sure the taxpayer gets a good deal.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And the last question, Senta, does anyone from the Democratic
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Party engage you in constructive conversations about the appropriation process,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: both spending and cutting anybody at all?
• 51:38
  Speaker 18: It's a tough one, Hugh. You know, I'm the new
• 51:40
  Speaker 18: guy around here.
• 51:42
  Speaker 17: I don't know if this is always how it's worked,
• 51:44
  Speaker 17: but it just seems like Washington's a place where there's
• 51:48
  Speaker 17: just a huge You know, the Democrats are way captured
• 51:51
  Speaker 17: by the radical left of their party when it comes
• 51:54
  Speaker 17: to public policy. They don't they don't really want to
• 51:57
  Speaker 17: work with us. I mean, frankly right now, this is
• 52:00
  Speaker 17: why I think they're gunning for a shutdown of the
• 52:03
  Speaker 17: government is because they have Trump arrangement syndrome. They want
• 52:06
  Speaker 17: the president to fail. They believe that if it appears
• 52:10
  Speaker 17: to the public Washington isn't working, that that's good for them.
• 52:14
  Speaker 17: And they're doing everything to make sure that Washington doesn't work,
• 52:17
  Speaker 17: and they're trying to roll marbles under people's feet. They're
• 52:19
  Speaker 17: trying to come up with excuses about why they don't
• 52:21
  Speaker 17: want to fund law enforcement. They're trying to come up
• 52:23
  Speaker 17: with excuses about why they didn't want to fund air
• 52:25
  Speaker 17: traffic controllers. They're going to come up with another set
• 52:28
  Speaker 17: of excuses about why they're going to demand another government
• 52:32
  Speaker 17: shut down. I'm deeply concerned about it, and that's why
• 52:38
  Speaker 17: I think we should go into this with our eyes
• 52:40
  Speaker 17: wide open, keep all options on the table, but understand
• 52:43
  Speaker 17: that we have to fulfill our fundamental responsibilities of serving
• 52:46
  Speaker 17: the American people. Of making sure that we keep our
• 52:49
  Speaker 17: country safe from foreign adversaries, but also domestically by stopping
• 52:55
  Speaker 17: all the invasion that we had at the border over
• 52:57
  Speaker 17: the previous four years, that brought fentanyl and draws to
• 53:00
  Speaker 17: our country, that made our communities left safe, that are
• 53:03
  Speaker 17: less safe, that brought drug gangs here, that brought in
• 53:07
  Speaker 17: human trafficking, protect the American people at home and abroad,
• 53:11
  Speaker 17: and that's one of our essential responsibilities. I don't think
• 53:15
  Speaker 17: the Democrats want to cooperate with us on.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: That, well, said Senator John Houston from Ohio. Thank you
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: for joining me on your regular appearance. I appreciate your
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: keeping us posted throughout the summer on the appropriations process,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: and I look forward to continuing that. Thank you, Senator
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: John Houston from the great state of Ohio.
• 53:32
  Speaker 13: So fun, doesn't anybody stay?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hughett playing so
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: far away from Mary Catherine Ham because she and Vick
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  Speaker 1: were musing about how far away this deal actually seems.
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  Speaker 1: With Iran, I'm the new, brand new, getting hammered. I
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: always customize your music, MKH if you're not leading out
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  Speaker 1: the hour. So that was my poll for you. Today,
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  Speaker 1: right out of the Sweetheart of the seventies. How was
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the lake house by the way, were there any emergency
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  Speaker 1: room trips?
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  Speaker 19: No, we had one wasp sting, but all recovered fine,
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  Speaker 19: and other than that pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: And when it comes to the next people that arrive
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  Speaker 1: at the cottage, are they going to be in dismay
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  Speaker 1: at the way it was left by fourteen children? Or
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  Speaker 1: was the work detail at the end pretty comprehensive.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 12: We always make sure that it is in good shape.
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  Speaker 19: We are, you know, can't you can't leave it in disarray?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my grandfather's cottage could not always say that. When
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  Speaker 1: the various family of units would come in and out
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  Speaker 1: of it, you could tell for worse, for where if
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  Speaker 1: the boys had been there? Mary Catherine. We've had the
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  Speaker 1: presidential press conference. We had another off the record briefing
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  Speaker 1: by a senior administration official which I had to jump
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  Speaker 1: off on in order to watch the press. What do
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  Speaker 1: you make of it now, the deal after the president
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  Speaker 1: has elighted it in France.
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  Speaker 19: The memo of misunderstanding, I don't know. So that I
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  Speaker 19: feel a ton better. I saw my Marco Rubio's face
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  Speaker 19: behind Trump as he was talking about foisting this thing
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  Speaker 19: off on JD if it didn't work very well, and
• 55:09
  Speaker 19: I feel the way.
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  Speaker 12: Marco Rubio's face looked in that moment.
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  Speaker 19: I am concerned for many reasons, but one of the
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  Speaker 19: reasons that before we got here, we realized once again
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  Speaker 19: anew apparently that the Mullas are not trustworthy because we've
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  Speaker 19: been in a ceasefire where they've never ceased fire, but
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  Speaker 19: we have where the conditions for the ceasefire, the opening
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  Speaker 19: of the Straight from News International waters was never observed
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  Speaker 19: by them. So to do this thing where we're going
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  Speaker 19: to sit down with them for another sixty days, to
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  Speaker 19: me is very worrisome. I don't know why, by the way,
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  Speaker 19: we're entertaining at all, giving millions to any of these people,
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  Speaker 19: And it doesn't feel like a victory to me, despite
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  Speaker 19: the fact that there were military strategic victories in the
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  Speaker 19: beginning and many things have been weakened inside the country.
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  Speaker 19: It feels like when you're sitting across from people who
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  Speaker 19: were only at the table with you because you killed
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  Speaker 19: the three other layers of people above them, maybe you
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  Speaker 19: should act like you have some leverage.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want, first of all, I want to say
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  Speaker 1: thank you for noticing what I noticed about Secretary of
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  Speaker 1: State Rubio, which is he held the same expression constant
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  Speaker 1: for fifty minutes. And unlike Howard Lutnick, who is on
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  Speaker 1: the President's right, who would occasionally smile, the Secretary of
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  Speaker 1: State was not going to smile or in any way
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  Speaker 1: evidence any kind of agreement with what was being set.
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  Speaker 1: That was my view of what the Secretary of State
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  Speaker 1: was doing. But number two, this came after Reuter's released
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  Speaker 1: the fourteen points, and point number eight is the sinkhole
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  Speaker 1: into which they all collapse, and that is if the
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  Speaker 1: nuclear talks go, well, we'll do all the rest of this.
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  Speaker 1: And the nuclear talks, the Wall Street Journal called it yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: they've got to include the three point sixty seven percent
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  Speaker 1: enrich geranium, and they've got to destroy it or remove it,
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  Speaker 1: or it's a failed deal. And Trump, as he said
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  Speaker 1: in the press conference, we will go back to bomb
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  Speaker 1: bomb bombing them. And I believe that, do you.
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  Speaker 10: I'm on the fence about that.
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  Speaker 12: I think that.
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  Speaker 19: Look, once the bombing started for the original ceasefire, it
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  Speaker 19: became much politically harder to restart, even in the face
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  Speaker 19: of for instance, and I know there were some strikes
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  Speaker 19: and a patchy helicopter being shot down.
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  Speaker 5: No one seems mad enough about that.
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  Speaker 10: Thankfully our crews survived.
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  Speaker 19: But I am concerned that going back to bombing is
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  Speaker 19: not as on the table as he makes it seem.
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  Speaker 19: Because they like to talk, and Trump likes to make
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  Speaker 19: deals too, So it's like you put their Iranians and
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  Speaker 19: Trump together. They may be sitting together for another sixty
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  Speaker 19: days and then another sixty days, and I don't think
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  Speaker 19: that helps us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to practice land huge law for big
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  Speaker 1: developers for thirty years, and they would sign letter of
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  Speaker 1: intents and they would be sixty day letter of intent
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: with mutual options to extend for another ninety days. This
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  Speaker 1: is that they're going to go five months and if
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: there's no deal, the war's back on because the election
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  Speaker 1: is over, and meantime, gas gets back down to two
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  Speaker 1: and a half bucks a gallon. That would not be
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  Speaker 1: bad for America, right, Catherine, Because.
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  Speaker 12: Do you think that? Well it feels to me, okay.
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  Speaker 19: I will concede the gas price thing being good for
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  Speaker 19: the economy, and I understand people being upset about that.
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  Speaker 19: I am concerned that by stretching this out, you neither
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  Speaker 19: achieve the domestic political goal of improving midterm chances, nor
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  Speaker 19: the legacy play of changing the world order by not
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  Speaker 19: gentle parenting the Middle East. I think it feels like
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  Speaker 19: you might lose both in this transaction.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the story I've been told by people close to
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Senate campaigns is as the price of gas goes down,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the Republican chances of retaining the Senate goes up. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's being reflected at the district by district
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  Speaker 1: level as well. So I understand the need to cut
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  Speaker 1: through people who don't care about Iran, Israel or anything
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  Speaker 1: else about it. And so I think that works. However,
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  Speaker 1: presidents who are lame ducks with two years ago they
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  Speaker 1: get done. All they get done is abroad. And so
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump has one place to look to get something done.
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  Speaker 1: It's not working in Russia. He's talking with China. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be the Middle East. Mary Catherine, I'm feeling
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  Speaker 1: very bullish.
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  Speaker 12: About this, Okay, I would love to be wrong.
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  Speaker 19: I'm concerned, but I will continue to listen and look,
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  Speaker 19: I know that's he's changeable. These variables are changeable. Things
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  Speaker 19: can happen between now. We're not even to the signing
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  Speaker 19: on Friday, and there's many things that have come out
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  Speaker 19: and have happened in many signals scent, But sometimes I
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  Speaker 19: wonder if just the stretching out of the process is
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  Speaker 19: damaging to us as well.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, I got a question that's related but different.
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  Speaker 8: JD.
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  Speaker 1: Ban says a new book out, Communion. The Vice President's
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  Speaker 1: been on a book tour. They've not talked about the book.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he's frustrated about that because he's not
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: selling I know it's number four or five on Amazon,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: but that's just the initial push that a deep guts.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: But he's not talking about the book because he's talking
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: about the MoU. That's got to be frustrated.
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  Speaker 19: I'm not sure he minds, because I think he is
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 19: in favor of this MoU and likes trying to sell it, right,
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  Speaker 19: I mean.
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  Speaker 12: This is this is kind of his projects.
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  Speaker 19: As the President made very clear, he's talked a little
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 19: bit about his book, although he could use some training
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  Speaker 19: from you and just get that word in their communion
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  Speaker 19: community more frequently.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, yes, and he would he would do better.
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  Speaker 19: But he's getting you know, a ton of high profile
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  Speaker 19: TV hits, that huge long interview on the View where
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  Speaker 19: I think he illustrated some very good media strategies for
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 19: dealing with people who ask you hostile questions like can
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  Speaker 19: you explain what you mean you're objecting to? And they're like,
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  Speaker 19: uh no, I sit around with people who I agree
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  Speaker 19: with all the time, so I can't. So he had
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  Speaker 19: some good moments, and he's getting really high profile placings
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  Speaker 19: so that a lot of people are paying attention.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch The Gut? The Gut felt was pretty I.
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  Speaker 12: Have not seen that one yet.
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  Speaker 1: All right, go watch it because it's just relaxed JD.
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  Speaker 1: It's the breaking the fourth plane, JD. The office. Let
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  Speaker 1: me ask you about I did not watch a minute
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  Speaker 1: of the UFC Spectacle. It's not my sport. I love boxing,
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  Speaker 1: growing up boomers love boxing. I'm not making the transition
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  Speaker 1: to the UFC. So I did not watch it. What
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  Speaker 1: did you think?
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  Speaker 5: I'm a UFC gal.
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  Speaker 19: I love it unabashedly, and if I have to like
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  Speaker 19: idiocracy my brain a little bit during the enjoyment of it,
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  Speaker 19: I shall and I thought, I really thought the spectacle
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  Speaker 19: of it, the staging, the aesthetics, the.
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  Speaker 10: Aura were nearly flawless.
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  Speaker 19: There's, of course, the one idiot fighter who I knew
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  Speaker 19: was going to be trouble, and I was hoping Derek
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  Speaker 19: Lewis would beat him so that we wouldn't have to
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  Speaker 19: hear him talk saying the thing about Michelle Obama that
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  Speaker 19: marred some of it. But the attendees, I didn't see
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  Speaker 19: like any fights or anything breakout among them.
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  Speaker 12: It seemed like a bunch of military guys enjoying themselves.
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  Speaker 19: The live Marine band performing everyone's walkout songs was beautiful
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  Speaker 19: and insane. The Medal of Honor recipients, the first responders
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  Speaker 19: together with the fighters.
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  Speaker 12: I enjoyed so much of it.
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  Speaker 19: It was a very audacious event, and you look at
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  Speaker 19: it with the flyover and you go, gosh, I'd hate
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  Speaker 12: I don't like this right, I don't know it.
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  Speaker 1: I did like it, or didn't like it because they
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  Speaker 1: didn't watch it, But I'm glad to hear it. Hit
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  Speaker 1: the demo. You're the demo, MKH if you're a UFC
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  Speaker 1: fight Ben, and that's what matters is to hit the demo.
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  Speaker 1: Mary Katherine Ham, thank you for joining me, host of
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  Speaker 1: code Hugh fifty. Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewett. Nosc Rothman,
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  Speaker 1: senior writer for National Review, joins me. He's the author
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  Speaker 1: of the book Blood in Progress. Boy is it ever timely? Noah,
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  Speaker 1: I must say, you're a young man. I must teach
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  Speaker 1: you how to promote. You're on the National Review, the
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  Speaker 1: editor's podcast. I listened to it today without trundling. And
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: there's a planned terror attack by Antifa like elements on
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  Speaker 1: the White House UFC event, and you don't plug your book.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? This is America?
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  Speaker 5: I guess I didn't. I hadn't really thought of that.
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  Speaker 20: I did describe it as in my wheelhouse, if I recall, yes,
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  Speaker 20: But yet it's a bit gratuitous. I suppose to be
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  Speaker 20: constantly promoting your.
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  Speaker 5: Products, and yeah, I just oh, this is America for
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: that psychological hurdle, This is America.
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  Speaker 1: We always promote, we always promote. But anyway, let's do
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  Speaker 1: it now. Blood in Progress. If there was a book
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  Speaker 1: written in anticipation of an attempt to destroy the White House,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: UFC match and vomit and sniper people, it's not getting
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  Speaker 1: the play it deserves. But it's blood in progress. It's
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  Speaker 1: right out of your book.
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  Speaker 5: It is it is, it's right out of my book.
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  Speaker 20: Nor is it getting remotely the play that, for examp,
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  Speaker 20: the attempted terrorist attack in Los Angeles in New Year's
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  Speaker 20: Eve by a self described liberation front to bomb five
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 20: sites and Los Angeles that got very little attention too,
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  Speaker 20: Nor did the attacks that I write about in the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 20: book on ice facilities, including a small cell terrorist attack
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 20: on ice in Texas that featured some pretty sophisticated ambush tactics.
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  Speaker 20: It all looks the same to me, But that's because
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 20: I've availed myself of the history here. And there's a
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  Speaker 20: concerted effort that to obscure and cultivate ignorance around left
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  Speaker 20: wing violence. And I do hope blend progress a century
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  Speaker 20: of left wing violence in America helps everyone understand what
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  Speaker 20: exactly it is they're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's very vital. I'm being serious. Now,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: you have a theory of the case. You laid it
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  Speaker 1: out in Blood and Progress, and people should read it
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: to understand what the theory of the case is, which is,
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  Speaker 1: there's nowhere to go about violence for these people because
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: they are against the West and they are outnumbered by
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  Speaker 1: ninety five to five percent in America. So we're doing
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the Weatherman thing again. Where is the media coverage on
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: this though? Noah seeing two stories on it and it
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: was a big deal.
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  Speaker 20: Yeah, thwarted attacks tend not to rise to the level
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  Speaker 20: that thwarted attacks not the right rise to when it
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  Speaker 20: comes to attention from the political press. One of the
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  Speaker 20: theories in my book is that media and those who
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  Speaker 20: are beholden to legacy media outlets and sponsor them and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 20: consume their products, are armed with an excuse to avoid
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  Speaker 20: confronting the violence in their midst and among their co
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 20: patriots are compatriots. Rather, it is that the right is
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  Speaker 20: uniquely violent, It is the primary threat to the domestic
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  Speaker 20: security of the United States, and anything else is an
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 20: aberration that doesn't really deserve much scrutiny. You hear that
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  Speaker 20: every single time an event like this comes up, Well,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 20: it's the right that's really bad. In fact, we hear
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  Speaker 20: about it a lot these days because there are so
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  Speaker 20: many episodes of politically inspired left wing violence. They just
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  Speaker 20: haven't already made an excuse to avoid confronting the problem.
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  Speaker 20: And I think that they're going to maintain that excuse
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  Speaker 20: until something really disastrous happens and our luck runs out
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 20: and we experience the kind of Hobbsian cascading cycle of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 20: retribution that I anticipate at the very end of my book.
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  Speaker 20: I just don't see any urgency to address this threat
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  Speaker 20: before a catastrophic, mass casualty attack wakes us up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the failure on the part of
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: the administration. FBI Director Cash Pattel very little details. The
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Washington Post did not expand upon them, Fox News expanded
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: on them a little bit. Does the administration need to
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: know how to promote as well as book authors do,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: because if you're going to tell a story, tell the story. Yeah.
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  Speaker 20: Probably it's incumbent on law enforcement officials. However, to maintain
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 20: the air of neutrality, One of the problems that I
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  Speaker 20: address in this book is the perception among those who
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  Speaker 20: are inclined towards violence, which involves disordered thinking. But their
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  Speaker 20: perception is that the state is on the other side,
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  Speaker 20: whether they're on the right or they're left, as long
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  Speaker 20: as they're politically violent, they believe that the state is
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  Speaker 20: a rate against them, as they are if you're engaged
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 20: in political violence of any sort, but they perceive that
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  Speaker 20: the other side gets a break from the state. So
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 20: if the law enforcement officials, including confirmed administration officials like
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 20: cash Ptel, were to events far too a little too
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 20: much partisan zeal, that would undermine his and r cause,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 20: which is to preserve comedy in the United States. It's
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 20: incumbent on us to fill in the details. But I
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 20: don't want to see law enforcement officials pounding the table
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 20: that contributes to the problem.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, we got thirty second the attempted kidnapping of
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  Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer. I expect that to always be the sort
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  Speaker 1: of baseline, because I'm not even sure that that was
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  Speaker 1: a plot. Someone went to jail. I can't remember the detail.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: This was way above that, though, right, so it should
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: get at least as much coverage as the Whitmer plot.
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  Speaker 20: Yeah, it's hard to say the level of sophistication here.
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  Speaker 20: I mean it certainly wasn't state based, obviously because they
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 20: were using signal chats, but they were also engaged in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 20: advanced plan including traveling to Virginia to pursue this attack.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 20: The witch and Gretmin which Mark kidnapping case, looks a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 20: lot like classic right wing violence, the sort of malicious
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 20: in sovereign citizens style violence that we became accustomed to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 20: in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties.
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  Speaker 5: This what we're talking about here is very different.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 20: The use of drones explosively and drones, if that's true,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 20: multiple sniper positions. This is a sophisticated military style plot that.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe borrowing from right wing taxes.
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  Speaker 1: I will be right back for Noah Rothman. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about the President and the MLU Right after this, go
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  Speaker 1: get Blood and Progress during the break. Welcome back to America,
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt with Noac Rothman. One of our favorite guests
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  Speaker 1: is the author of Blood and Progressing. You're writer for
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  Speaker 1: National Review almost always on the Tuesday edition of the
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  Speaker 1: Editors from Nashal Review, with Rich Lowry hosting as he
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  Speaker 1: was today and usually occasionally popped up on the commentary
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  Speaker 1: podcast Noah, I watched the president's presser today, I've got
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  Speaker 1: a touch of the Senior Administration official conference call, and
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, I read the MoU and so I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you where I am and i want your comment.
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  Speaker 1: The MU is a long way of saying Iran can
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  Speaker 1: sell oil and we can buy oil, and no one
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  Speaker 1: will shoot at each other for sixty days, but we
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  Speaker 1: can agree to extend that if we're still talking, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think they're going to extend it past November,
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  Speaker 1: and if we haven't got a deal, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: go back to war. That's what I think it is.
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  Speaker 20: What do you think I think you may be right
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  Speaker 20: about after November. I think the advantages that we will
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  Speaker 20: sacrifice in the interim are not worth sacrificing. I think
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  Speaker 20: essentially this agreement compels us to abandon operation economic theory,
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  Speaker 20: to say nothing of the blockade, which was throttling the
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  Speaker 20: economy and depriving the IRGC of the funds. It needs
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  Speaker 20: to maintain cohesion in the ranks, and that also means
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  Speaker 20: that we're sacrificing our intention to stabilized the Islamic Republic
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  Speaker 20: from within, and we said as much in the MoU
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  Speaker 20: But agreeing to it and then making steps in that
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  Speaker 20: regard are two different things. I am not persuaded by
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  Speaker 20: the Republican President Donald Trump's threats to return to high
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  Speaker 20: tempo combat operations. I don't think the Iranians are either.
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  Speaker 20: In that press conference, he articulated the logic of capitulation,
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  Speaker 20: which was if we pursue indefinitely the blockade and occasionally
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  Speaker 20: hit them with you know, love taps as we were
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  Speaker 20: doing before, which doesn't arise to the level of high
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  Speaker 20: tempo combat operations, then we will experience a global depression.
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  Speaker 20: And only stupid people want a global depression. So he's
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  Speaker 20: already articulated the rationale for not returning to combat operations
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  Speaker 20: of any appreciable size. And I'm you know, the multi
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  Speaker 20: stage piece deals involving Middle Eastern terrorists tend not to
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  Speaker 20: progress beyond stage one. So that's one of the reasons
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  Speaker 20: why I was amenable to the Gaza deal because Stage
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  Speaker 20: one was great. It left Israel in control, a recognized
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  Speaker 20: control of a much bigger Gaza envelope.
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  Speaker 5: This one is off.
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  Speaker 20: This one gives us in Iran everything it wants, and
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  Speaker 20: all it has to do is just take immediate steps
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  Speaker 20: to reopen the straight But not really, because we have
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  Speaker 20: to quote take into account the need for removal of
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  Speaker 20: technical obstacles and the neutralization of minds by Iran, and
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  Speaker 20: that could mean anything. The number of obstacles that they
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  Speaker 20: could encounter and that would be consistent with this document
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  Speaker 20: are innumerable.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't think this is great.
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  Speaker 20: And if we dare progress beyond stage one to the
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  Speaker 20: other stages, we're only beginning to experience the humiliations that
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  Speaker 20: are in store for the United States. Again, if we
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  Speaker 20: were to implement this as written, which I hope we.
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  Speaker 1: Do not well. I am of the optimist school, which
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  Speaker 1: is we didn't give anything away. They're not getting any money,
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  Speaker 1: they get to sell oil. We're going back to status
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  Speaker 1: quo blockade. But they've got to open up the straits,
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  Speaker 1: and if they don't, we'll begin bombing again in the meantime.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the crucial point I right about it.
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  Speaker 1: For tomorrow, for Fox, we got to surge interceptors to
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  Speaker 1: our golf allies into Israel, got to go into overdrive
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  Speaker 1: and pass the Reconciliation three point zero and build the
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  Speaker 1: defenses that we did not have enough of. Noah, So
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind five months to kind of harden our position.
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  Speaker 1: Pass November, get gas prices down. For this, it's so
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  Speaker 1: very much like Henry Kissinger announcing pieces at hand in
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  Speaker 1: October of nineteen seventy two. Peace did not show up
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  Speaker 1: on schedule after the election, and Nixon did the Christmas
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  Speaker 1: bombing in nineteen seventy two until the North Vietnamese changes
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  Speaker 1: their mind. And so I think it's what we're doing.
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  Speaker 20: That would be a desirable scenario. Here's one that I'm
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  Speaker 20: worried about. And not to give you a preview of
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  Speaker 20: tomorrow's Morning Jolt, I'm filling in for Jim Garritty.
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  Speaker 5: But here's what the deal is.
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  Speaker 20: If we progress to stage the Article sixth provision in
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  Speaker 20: this which details a degree to which the United States
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  Speaker 20: will facilitate a three hundred billion dollar reconstruction fund economic
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  Speaker 20: development fund funded by Gold States. Part of the problem
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  Speaker 20: here this has been something that punch Bowl has talked about.
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  Speaker 20: For example, is that there's a statutory requirement for the
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  Speaker 20: State Department to Risk to inform Congress if, for Arran
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  Speaker 20: has attacked Americans with drones over the course of one
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  Speaker 20: hundred and eighty days, and that compell that they have
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  Speaker 20: that ensures that the IRGC will not be delisted as
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  Speaker 20: a foreign terrorist organization. The problem here is the president
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  Speaker 20: can lift that if he wanted to, and Joe Biden
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  Speaker 20: talked about lifting it, but he wouldn't delist the IRGC.
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  Speaker 20: There's a big back in forth in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 20: over it. That's why the JCPOA talks collapsed in Vienna
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  Speaker 20: in March of twenty twenty two. The RGC wanted to
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  Speaker 20: be delisted as a foreign terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 5: And Joe Biden would not go that far.
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  Speaker 20: If this fund comes true fruition, not only will the
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  Speaker 20: President be compelled to suspend that statute, he will be
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  Speaker 20: forced to delist the RGC as a foreign terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 20: Why because private enterprise and governments cannot do visible business
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  Speaker 20: with the IRGC as long as it's an FTO Article
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  Speaker 20: six will not be realized.
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  Speaker 5: That deal will fall.
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  Speaker 20: And if the deal falls, it will not be the IRGC,
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  Speaker 20: DI ORGYC will claim that'll be Trump, President Trump's fault.
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  Speaker 5: And if President Trump is wedded to.
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  Speaker 20: The deal, he will not let it collapse and he
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  Speaker 20: will delist the ERGC.
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  Speaker 5: That's a terrifying prospect to me.
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  Speaker 20: But it's hard and it's hard to imagine, especially because
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  Speaker 20: the RGC was responsible for threats against.
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  Speaker 5: Him and his family.
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  Speaker 20: But I've had a lot of failures of imagination over
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  Speaker 20: the last couple of weeks, and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 20: engage in one year.
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  Speaker 5: It's a distinct possibility.
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  Speaker 1: All right, my last count, I've got my happy hat
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  Speaker 1: on because of what he said at the end, which is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really sure I should sign this
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  Speaker 1: kind of deal. I'm gonna let JD sign it. That way.
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  Speaker 1: If it works, I'll take credit. If it fails, I'll
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  Speaker 1: blame it on JD. Actually, in that humor is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of political realism.
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  Speaker 20: Sure, yeah, I mean I said on the editors yesterday
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  Speaker 20: that I thought it was a poison shoalice for for
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  Speaker 20: j Vance, in part because he's he's struggled to sell
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  Speaker 20: this thing. It's a hard thing to sell. That's not
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  Speaker 20: necessarily his fault. However, it's easy to get to the
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  Speaker 20: right of him on this one. It's easy to say
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  Speaker 20: that Donald Trump was failed at the negotiating table by
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  Speaker 20: his capitulatory subordinates.
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  Speaker 5: I would have done it better.
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  Speaker 20: I would have realized Donald Trump's vision in a way
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  Speaker 20: that JD. Vans couldn't or wouldn't. I think that's a
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  Speaker 20: bad political argument for him, and maybe it's not relevant
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  Speaker 20: two years from now.
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  Speaker 5: But there was such a long.
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  Speaker 20: Tale in the Iraq War that I find it hard
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  Speaker 20: to believe that there won't be a long tail on
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  Speaker 20: this one too.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the campaign begins on November, the day after the election,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it. The campaign the presidential campaign begins the day
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  Speaker 1: after the election.
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  Speaker 20: Informally, I suppose, you know, unless if you really believe
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  Speaker 20: that that the vice president hasn't thought at all about
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  Speaker 20: his political future and is only going to begin to
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  Speaker 20: contemplate it after November.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, the invisible primary is.
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  Speaker 20: Already upon us, lining up donors, securing you know, endorsements
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  Speaker 20: or quiet endorsements, suspected endorsements from key figures in key
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  Speaker 20: states like New Hampshire and Iowa. That's already begun. It
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  Speaker 20: will begin visibly and in earnest after the midterm elections,
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  Speaker 20: but it's already upon us.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I believe, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to be in that
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  Speaker 1: race who are going to run to the right. Advice
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  Speaker 1: President advanced in the Lane Mark Reagan Conservative, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: no c. Rothman, author of Blood and Progress, never not
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  Speaker 1: important in the dan Age because it's not a week
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  Speaker 1: goes by. We don't have more left wing violence. Thank you.
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