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Patriots Unfiltered 5/2: ESPN's Mike Reiss on Patriots Draft Class, Recent Roster Moves, Evaluating the Roster · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just say, disaster strikes and this negatively impacts Drake
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  Speaker 4: May and you stuck without a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: So make May is playing but he's not playing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, oh, well, they didn't do anything to support them.
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  Speaker 4: They failed them, you know, they ruined them. And that's
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  Speaker 4: the that's the narrative to say this time in two years.
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  Speaker 4: We're not allowed to say.
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  Speaker 3: That by drafting Joe Milton.
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  Speaker 4: We're not allowed to say. Yeah, we're not allowed to
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  Speaker 4: say it.
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  Speaker 3: Thought, well, I think that would be incorrect.
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  Speaker 4: But you didn't see it. No, but if it's a hypothetic,
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  Speaker 4: were there more reasons mac Jones was a bust other
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  Speaker 4: than they hired Matt Patricia for the offensive coordinator. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but you're not allowed to say that.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot different than drafting Joe.
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  Speaker 5: I don't hear you say.
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  Speaker 3: It's not even apples to apples.
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  Speaker 4: So don't don't ever saying.
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  Speaker 3: Allowed to say whatever you want, and everyone's allowed to.
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  Speaker 4: If I do that, I'm just being a baby. Check
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  Speaker 4: it at the door next time. Okay, I'll be all
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  Speaker 4: on board.
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  Speaker 3: Baby when you start saying, well, I can't say what
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  Speaker 3: I when you act like a baby, baby, It's.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna be fun to just get out there. See what
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  Speaker 6: they look like, see what they move like. And I'm
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  Speaker 6: just excited to see what Joe Milton most like.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 3: at you Let's Stadium. It's Deuce, it's Alex, it's Paul,
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  Speaker 3: it's Fred Evan.
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  Speaker 6: U doing interviews with on WHENU and uh Bentley okayah.
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  Speaker 8: Help me buying a little bit. He's gonna listen to
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  Speaker 8: those guys.
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  Speaker 6: And ask Michael and whine about his bike riding through
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  Speaker 6: the locker room.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that was wild.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just like and who filmed that?
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  Speaker 6: Kendrick Bourne, I think, Yeah, it seems like Kendrick Born.
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  Speaker 3: So that's new.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, those basketball the shot.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't have been able to do that a year ago.
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  Speaker 6: Riding your bike, go ride your bike outside.
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  Speaker 3: Or having your phone out. You got to get Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: forget about the bike just filming social media content?
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  Speaker 5: Are those rules just for in season?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I thought when you come here, you come here
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  Speaker 3: to work.
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  Speaker 8: That's what I've thought. Yeah, tonight, good job.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know if the basketball hoop is brand new
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  Speaker 9: or if it was just replaced. I think they've had
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  Speaker 9: basketball hoops in the past, but they get broken.
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  Speaker 8: They definitely connect four okay, right, don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you guys have been in the locker room
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  Speaker 4: way more than I have lately. I don't know that
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  Speaker 4: they've had basketball hoops in the locker.
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  Speaker 8: I've never seen.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. Well.
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  Speaker 9: We talked about it for static camp, and I think Richie,
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  Speaker 9: one of the guys that works in football, was telling
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  Speaker 9: us that when they do have them, they.
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  Speaker 10: Just they break them because they take the games to series.
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  Speaker 3: Set up a hoop, me too, I want to set
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  Speaker 3: up a hoop right here in the TV compound. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So like when there's no trucks, we could just go
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  Speaker 3: down and shoot around.
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  Speaker 8: That'd be fun, would be good.
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  Speaker 3: The ceiling is certainly high enough.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, work on my my shot. Evan.
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  Speaker 6: We can put Evan in his place because I think
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  Speaker 6: you know, he's flexing telling us all about what a
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  Speaker 6: dynamic c yo basketball player.
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  Speaker 8: Actually he's not. He didn't play whatever his youth basketball
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  Speaker 8: league was J C.
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  Speaker 6: C Okay, Well, I told.
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  Speaker 10: Him he can pick anyone against me. And Genesia.
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  Speaker 8: Oh well, Genisia, that girl, she she can play.
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  Speaker 5: Guys are both legit basketball players.
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  Speaker 10: I've never seen her play, but I think she would be.
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  Speaker 8: I think so too. I talked to it.
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  Speaker 10: Well, know, she coaches, coaches, she coaches boys.
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  Speaker 3: She said, she's that's her. That's yeah.
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  Speaker 5: She played basket.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, we've talked a little bit. She played AAU.
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  Speaker 6: I love talking to her about she first year coaching.
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  Speaker 3: She so.
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  Speaker 8: I love hearing her go through the coaching experience.
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  Speaker 10: And you know, it's very wholesome.
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  Speaker 5: There's always a pain in the information.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get doun in my dungeon. I was aware
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  Speaker 4: of that. Lot told to go back.
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  Speaker 11: Down, get you.
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  Speaker 3: I had a call.
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  Speaker 8: I have a call anyway.
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  Speaker 3: People listening don't know who these people are.
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  Speaker 5: But dey knew who Devin mccordy is.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, So you got a new kicker.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Sly Joey slye veteran, little veteran.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, any good guy. He was Washington's can't be that.
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  Speaker 6: Last, yeah they Yeah, the Jacks just I guess the
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  Speaker 6: Jags must have drafted somebody and don't care for competition.
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  Speaker 6: But wow, but I mean joking aside, like and I
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  Speaker 6: don't want to get back into the Joe Milton at all,
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  Speaker 6: but I mean it does.
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  Speaker 8: Seem like this regime is you have.
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  Speaker 4: No threat of that that.
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  Speaker 6: I do think that this regime has carried some of
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  Speaker 6: that over from Bill, which is competition, competition, competition, and
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  Speaker 6: bring making sure that that nobody feels too comfortable. Maybe,
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  Speaker 6: and I think that that's certainly the case at a
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  Speaker 6: number of positions on the offensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 6: is they try to, you know, find a new offensive
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  Speaker 6: line from from all these.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, believe it or not, most coaches or that
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Pete Carroll, believe it or not, was like that.
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  Speaker 3: He always, you know, fancied himself at having a very
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  Speaker 3: competitive practice in training camp, and you know most coaches
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  Speaker 3: want competition.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's just sometimes you think, guys, I've.
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  Speaker 8: Actually heard that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know sometimes you just like think about
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  Speaker 6: like some player like well he should just have the job.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't need like this guy breathing down his neck right.
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  Speaker 4: Year, there wouldn't be another kick.
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  Speaker 8: And that's specific to Ryland.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 6: I agree with you in the respect to Ryland. That
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  Speaker 6: wasn't the point. I was trying to go ahead, go
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  Speaker 6: to your little pole.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, this is.
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  Speaker 6: But sometimes other position groups, you know, it's just kind
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  Speaker 6: of like, really, do you really you need another body there?
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  Speaker 8: But you know how it works.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes these guys people get hurt and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you can always use those guys that have been in
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  Speaker 6: the building since the spring.
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  Speaker 3: So that happened, and then today just probably right now,
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  Speaker 3: the remaining Tom Brady Day tickets are up for sale
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  Speaker 3: on ticket Master June twelfth.
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  Speaker 8: Go get them. Go get them people.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, what they're going for it's a hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, go get them. I was just as a Patriots fan, Well,
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  Speaker 6: there's not many left I go right now because they've
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  Speaker 6: been up there for about six minutes. But I just say,
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  Speaker 6: as a Patriots fan, this is it's worth it. It's worth
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  Speaker 6: it to be there if you're a Tom Brady fan
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  Speaker 6: and you want to see him honored the way he
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  Speaker 6: should be honored, with all kinds of surprises and all
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  Speaker 6: kinds of fun and not you know, and some people
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  Speaker 6: are like, oh, it's probably the same old cast of
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  Speaker 6: characters that you're gonna wrote. No, it's different, and there's
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  Speaker 6: just a lot of really cool stuff. And I think
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  Speaker 6: if you're a Tom Brady fan and you miss this,
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna be kicking yourself in the butt because it's
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  Speaker 6: it's gonna be awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be something that goes down in Patriots history. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: the same way Larry Bird and I did for the Celtics. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was well done, and I remember that like it
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  Speaker 3: was yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: I thought it was kind of you know, he's getting
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  Speaker 8: roasted this weekend too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that'll be interesting, Yeah, which which was you know.
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  Speaker 6: But I feel like it's a good complimentary thing because
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna have everybody come out kind of tease them
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  Speaker 6: a little bit this weekend his wounds Brady, and then
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  Speaker 6: it's you're gonna have some of the same people coming
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  Speaker 6: back and you know, kind of glowing about him and
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  Speaker 6: you know nice. So I think it's gonna be hopefully
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  Speaker 6: complimentary and you know, not intrusive to either thing. So
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  Speaker 6: complimentary With an E and an I I think you
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  Speaker 6: corrected me on that a couple of times, spread on
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  Speaker 6: things I've written, but I think I've.
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  Speaker 8: Got it down now so that the difference between the
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  Speaker 8: e and the eye.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, there's a lot of complimentary weapons, complimentary pieces.
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  Speaker 8: To the offense cross I did.
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  Speaker 6: I did, but I didn't know the actual name of
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  Speaker 6: the library till about you.
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  Speaker 3: They compliment each other and when they do well, we
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  Speaker 3: will compliment them with an eye.
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  Speaker 11: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: Right, It's like.
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  Speaker 8: The the brown horse jumped over what's that saying?
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  Speaker 12: That?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 8: It gets every letter in you know I'm talking.
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  Speaker 10: About now jump over the fence or something?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, okay, sorry, all right?
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  Speaker 3: What else? So we got Brady tickets, we got a
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  Speaker 3: new kicker.
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  Speaker 8: A new kicker.
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  Speaker 6: We're I mean, we're supposedly going to see the rookies
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  Speaker 6: next weekend, right.
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  Speaker 3: Did we mention that they released Connor McDermott last.
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  Speaker 5: Show after the show?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's got rid of him.
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  Speaker 6: So that gets him down to eight eight tackles. I
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  Speaker 6: maybe do air quotes on the tackles because some of
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  Speaker 6: them have you know, Michael, when you I guess as a.
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  Speaker 8: Tackle, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I continue to want wish them when you would go
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  Speaker 6: back inside.
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  Speaker 8: I just think that that's the best place. And well,
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  Speaker 8: I love if they could find two tackles.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. If he goes back inside, it
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  Speaker 3: means that they have somebody outside, so that now you've
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  Speaker 3: increased the depth you've you know, So that's that's why
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  Speaker 3: I would want it to go inside, is because wow,
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  Speaker 3: they've got a you know, a real tackle out there.
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  Speaker 3: Not that no, no, no disrespect to Mike and when
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  Speaker 3: you he could be just as good, but you want
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  Speaker 3: as deep in solid line as you can possibly get.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I think when you spent most of
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  Speaker 3: his time at guard, that's his more natural position, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I think that the upside of
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  Speaker 4: that would be to have and I know that it's
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  Speaker 4: not ideal because you have two guys that have played
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  Speaker 4: almost predominantly right tackle with Chukes or Corps four in
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  Speaker 4: Cayden Wallace, they've been right tackles. But you could have
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  Speaker 4: Wallace as a rookie, which is very common even with
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  Speaker 4: left tackles in college, to play right tackle when they
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  Speaker 4: first come into the league. Even I think Jonathan Ogden
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  Speaker 4: did that, but if it wasn't him, even guys of
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  Speaker 4: that stature sometimes play as a rookie on the right
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  Speaker 4: side before getting entrenched on the left. And if a
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  Speaker 4: Corps four could play left, now you have a when
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  Speaker 4: you freed up to solidify the inside with David Andrews
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  Speaker 4: and not, all you have to worry about is one spot.
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  Speaker 4: So that I think would be ideal, but I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure if it's plausible.
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  Speaker 6: No, I mean this is this is probably believe along
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  Speaker 6: the lines of still believing in Christmas. It's like Calvin Anderson,
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  Speaker 6: and I mean he has started a bunch of games
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  Speaker 6: at left tackle in the league. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 6: I don't really want to hang all my hopes on him,
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  Speaker 6: but I do think when you look at the actual
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  Speaker 6: depth chart, he's the only player who's played significant amount
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  Speaker 6: of time in the NFL at left tackle.
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  Speaker 5: The only one that has any experience.
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  Speaker 6: So maybe he's a little bit of a wild card.
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  Speaker 6: But I did speak to you know, Paul's writing that
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  Speaker 6: the profile on Wallace. But I did speak with Eric
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  Speaker 6: Aalco from the Shrine Bowl yesterday, who Wallace was at,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, he said the feeling around the league
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  Speaker 6: was that he would be the top swing tackle drafted,
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  Speaker 6: like he's he that that's what they kind of saw
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  Speaker 6: him as.
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  Speaker 8: As you know, he could play both sides.
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  Speaker 6: We've talked, you know about how Olufashanu kind of had
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  Speaker 6: locked things down on the left side, so we never
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  Speaker 6: really had the chance to play left tackle. But there
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  Speaker 6: is I think some feeling in the league that that
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  Speaker 6: it's a potential move he could make.
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  Speaker 8: So we'll see. I mean, there's no guarantee.
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  Speaker 3: The other news that came out at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of the week was of course Barmar's deal,
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  Speaker 3: and since then, his agent released a little video of
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  Speaker 3: him here at Gillette signing and all that. And what
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  Speaker 3: do you think of that that video?
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  Speaker 8: That's a good question. I don't really, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, anyone can answer, and I'm not interviewing Deuce.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you didn't see it there?
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  Speaker 10: No, yeah, I'm posting. I didn't see the actual video though.
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  Speaker 8: No, it was yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 6: It was him walking in and you know it was
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  Speaker 6: kind of like, here's the look of a ninety million.
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  Speaker 8: Dollar man, or this is what mill That's what she
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  Speaker 8: said his agent.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: That's a good question, fred I.
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  Speaker 6: I I'm a little torn on Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Think about it this way. Forget about if your deuce.
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  Speaker 3: If you're Christian Barmore, are you like, oh, you're feeling
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  Speaker 3: okay with that with my agent posting that, I think so?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I I just think it was a big
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  Speaker 6: moment for them, for them both, and I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't recoil from it. And wow, this
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  Speaker 6: is awkward and this feels weird. But I guess my
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  Speaker 6: hesitation at the same time is just like you're kind
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  Speaker 6: of like strutting your stuff now, and it is a
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  Speaker 6: little bit a little bit weird to put that out,
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  Speaker 6: but at the same time, I guess it's just so different.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's worked so hard and you know, obviously it's
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  Speaker 6: a huge deal for his agent to put that together,
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  Speaker 6: so you know, congrats to her. But yeah, I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: it's it's I'm happy for Barmore, and it's it's it
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  Speaker 6: goes back to what we talked about it just as
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  Speaker 6: a fan being able to know which players you can
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  Speaker 6: get behind, and I think that's one of the things
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  Speaker 6: that fans haven't had the last couple of years. You
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  Speaker 6: don't really like right now, I feel pretty good about Like,
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  Speaker 6: I think we're going to keep Christian Gonzalez for a
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  Speaker 6: long time, like you know, like and previously I might
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  Speaker 6: have been like, well he's he's here for four years,
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  Speaker 6: maybe five, and and then you know, most likely he's
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  Speaker 6: probably gone. So I just from a fan headspace, it's
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  Speaker 6: it's nice to feel like you're going to be the
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  Speaker 6: people that you the players that you invest in and
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  Speaker 6: start to get attached to that that you can form
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  Speaker 6: those long term bonds because you haven't had that in
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  Speaker 6: a while.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of Gonzales, who was court side at the Celtics game, Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: It's got a lot of FaceTime behind spo all night too.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it looks good.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm I'm just excited to see him back.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it was always just so fun to watch
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  Speaker 6: him him move out on the field.
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  Speaker 8: But like I was saying.
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  Speaker 6: Earlier though, I mean, we're supposed to get a look
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  Speaker 6: at these rookies next Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: That's yeah. So now so the next thing here is
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  Speaker 3: rookie mini camp. What's the dates on that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the act, Well, our our access day is supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be Saturday.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they are. They're they're out there the
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  Speaker 8: first day.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm just curious what that what that looks like,
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  Speaker 6: what they're gonna do. I hope that they kind of
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  Speaker 6: protect the players a little bit and and don't have
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  Speaker 6: them doing anything too uh you know, competitive or anything
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  Speaker 6: that people could read into. But just cool to get
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  Speaker 6: to see these guys play.
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  Speaker 8: Sounds like Jalen Polk's gonna take number one too.
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  Speaker 6: So things are a lot a lot different now with
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  Speaker 6: how how the access are getting with.
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  Speaker 3: These rookies, So that'll we'll be having content throughout. I
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  Speaker 3: think media has one day of access, but I will
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  Speaker 3: have some extra access.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, some pictures, yeah, and stuff like that as a
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  Speaker 6: as they drink from the fire hose, right yeah, nice, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: the rookies and Shopper's Iron, we're.
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  Speaker 8: Getting them all in today.
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  Speaker 3: What else before we open it up to listeners? Anything?
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  Speaker 8: What else?
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: No, I mean, I I think we're just uh, I
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: mean you see there there. I think the roster is
• 14:12
  Speaker 6: full now with the linebacker that they signed, So for
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: the moment, it seems like everything's kind of in place.
• 14:17
  Speaker 8: I know, we talked about Stefan.
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: Gilmore maybe another veteran edition, which I would be on
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: board with another outside guy, right, Yeah, the little experience,
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: good size.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: The first it's like Zamdes. But what is the first name?
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Archimedes.
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: Shoot, I didn't, Uh, I didn't reprint my own I didn't.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Your color coded death shot lasted one show? Did me
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: and Fred areguing so much? Upset you what you couldn't.
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: I didn't even print a new one. I was just
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: so enamored with the color on it.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: He was rattled.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: We rattled him, Freddy. Yeah, he's done.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Okay, I'm just looking to see if there's any
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: updates on the Brady. Maybe it's already sold out. Oh man,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything yet. That'd be crazy. Yeah, So
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: if people are trying or have bought since noon, let
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: us know, or if you just got on there and
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: got denied, let us know. Yeah, we'd love to get
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: an update on what that's like. But I do know
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: they're they're getting close.
• 15:17
  Speaker 8: Selling it out.
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean because they got to cut some of
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: the stadium. I mean yeah, it's Yeah.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I think I think capacity for this event, because you know,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: you get the stage and blocking the south end zone,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's like fifty six thousand or something like that.
• 15:31
  Speaker 10: Little less than like a concert.
• 15:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, more Brady.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, So that'll be great. It's gonna I can't
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: wait for that.
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: It will.
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: It's like I kind of feel like you got all
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: the draft guys and now you're like, all right, and
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: now I want to see them. You know, you waited
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: all these like two months to just finally get to
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: this point where you know who the Patriots drafted, and
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: now you're quickly turning the page too.
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: All right, let's get on the field.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be a little selfish here. And at
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: the end of the show on Tuesday, Mike had mentioned
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: that he and I were going to be doing something
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: with Josh mc We kind of teased it. It was
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't know if you guys wanted to bring that out.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Well, and now that we did it, I think that
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: we should, absolutely And it was an absolute home run
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: how well it went. And basically what Mike and I
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: did was we got together and came up with what
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: we thought were the twelve best game winning drives for
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady, you know, as part of the Brady festivities
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: and content that we'll be putting out leaning into the night.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: You know, it's not going to be probably something that
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: we'll see during the ceremony on the twelfth, but heading
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: into that week, and Josh sat down with Mike and
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I yesterday and it was incredible, like just the amount
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: of memories and detail that come back with it, And
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: it was Josh like he would be doing if it
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: was breaking down the film that week, if the game
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: had happened in that week, And he's showing Mike and
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I all these different things that probably get overlooked by
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of people, you know, including us at the time,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: and I think it's something to keep an eye on.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: We'll be promoting it. We'll let you know. We're not
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: exactly sure how we're going to unveil it and present it,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: but it's something that you guys, especially people on this show,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: because I know the people on this show are the
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: the inside football guys. They're the diehards that want any
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: and everything, and this is something you won't want to miss.
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: I mean I've done a lot of cool things since
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: I started working here.
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: This was the cool.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: It was incredible. I loved that we we sat with
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: him for about an hour and a half. Yeah, And
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I said to Mike, as soon as we've done, I
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: could have done another hour and a half easily.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: It was so enjoyable.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I said to my dad so much.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: It was it's learning to appreciate Brady.
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: What made Brady great?
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: And everybody knows he won super Bowls, he had comeback drives,
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: you know, he had touchdown throws. But Josh shows you
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: what made him special, from snap to snap, down to down,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: every moment, little subtle things. I mean, it's just it's
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: it's I see Tom Brady in a whole different light.
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: And like you said, Paul, like I could have sat
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: there for two more hours just watching him go through
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: the All twenty two show us. You know, look at
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: him here, he sees exactly what it is, he knows
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: where he's going with it. It's just I'm so excited
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: for the fans to see it, especially people who really
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: get off on quarterback stuff and then quarterback play and
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: what made Tom Brady elite.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: It's it's and Mike and I played the hits we got,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: you know, like you know, super Bowl thirty six against
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: the Rams, and you know, the overtime game winning drive
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: against the Falcons and the Chiefs, and but there's some
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: other stuff in there that you probably don't necessarily necessarily remember,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: with the same amount of detail that So we kind
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: of gave you a good little cross section. Yeah, regular season, postseason,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: you know, different stages of his career earlier, later, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: just sort of the maturation process that you could actually
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: see as you go through them.
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: The cool part to me was just that Josh started
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: off as a coaching assistant and you know, we know
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: we left for a little bit, but when he I
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: mean he was basically there for the whole thing.
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: You know, he saw all the development.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, he made a joke we were talking about
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: a game in six that we're reviewing and it's like,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: you know, all of a sudden, you're the offensive coordinator.
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: How was that?
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Trends in out I was very lucky to have Tom,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: He's that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: But they became such a you know, a dynamic duo,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: so to speak, and and you know, Brady and McDaniels.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, this will live forever, and I think it'll be,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: you know, something that people really want to look at
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: how great Tom Brady was. I think this shows it
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: in a way that nothing else has ever shown.
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't wait to see how they edit it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 11: I don't know.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think we're gonna do and we're going
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: to need to sit down and figure out exactly what
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: our goal was to try to present.
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: It a lot.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I was telling No Socks that it should be edited
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: in a way to make it look like the old
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: NFL films would safety stable, would sit down and maybe
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: kind of have that time kind of look to it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was I mean, those were my I mean
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: that's for me like that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: I love those films, like and everyone remembers those where
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: you know, Steve Sable sitting, you know, in a button
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: down and a sweater and he's sitting in the studio,
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: you know, within his chair and it's almost like masterpiece
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: theater kind of how he would, you know, introduce it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I was definitely thinking the masterpiece theater thing, because
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I know they had to be a camera behind us,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: you know, and you know, contrary to popular opinion, they
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: did not show the plays on the back of my head.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: But I heard You've got a lot of compliments from
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Josh and your memory. Yeah, like you were throwing stuff
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: out there and he's like, yeah, that's right.
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the steel Trap. Yeah, Paul's like calling out corners names.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the useless stuff that I can't know.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Somehow, in this case, it was useful.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: As soon as we got about twenty fifteen, Paul zoned out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: He didn't remember any I.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Was laughing with Deuce because I was sort of talking
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: about different personnel on the other side of the you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: the other team. And I have a recollection for the
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: individual players that were involved in any of those plays
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: from six, much more so than I do now. Like
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: if you ask me, you know, like the Denver game
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: last year when they went down the fields and you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: set up the Ryland game winning field goal at the end,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you who the cornerback was they gave
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: up the big play or anything, you know for Denver.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: But you asked me, like, why do you think seven was?
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Is that because we were doing the paper?
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Because I'm a loser now, No, seriously, get older to
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: retain new.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Information the brain, Really, I have to push some other
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: stuff out.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: You gotta get rid of some of those. You probably
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: have a theory on that. What do I have to do?
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Get rid of your olive oil?
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: Olive oil?
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: Definitely, if you want me to go into a rabbit
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: hole olive oil. Every day consumption is we don't really
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: linked to good memory function.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: What about oil?
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: That's two. That's definitely.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I have a goods take every day. Yeah, it doesn't work.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I'm only kidding. I do take it every Some fish.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: Oil is sketchy. You got to get a reliable fish oil.
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but you need a lot of people are deficient
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: in omega threes and then their balance of omega sixes
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: is too much, and it can.
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: Correct me if I'm wrong. If anyone actually knows more.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Than this, somebody nutrition.
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: If we got a balance, it is really bad, really bad.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's always the rule of thumb. I always assume
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: they all know more. They will, let you know, brain superfood.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: All right, well, let's get to the listeners eight five
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: to five past five hundred programming Note. Around one o'clock
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: or so, Mike Reese of ESPN, one of the leading
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Patriots beat writers, will be joining us to get his
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: take on the draft and in the current state of
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: the team. So we'll be talking to Mike around one o'clock,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: just before or after we get to eat. All right,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: let's get to the Ace ticket hout line. We'll start
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: with Tim and Westford. What's up, Tim?
• 22:58
  Speaker 13: Hey, I just want to talk. But Drake May for
• 23:02
  Speaker 13: a minute, really excited by the pick. Okay, I think,
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: you know, looking at him after all the draft type
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: has gone down, a lot of people have compared him
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: to Josh Allen. I don't quite see that. I don't
• 23:20
  Speaker 13: think he I think, you know, I think Josh Allen
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: is kind of one of a kind, super elusive kind
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: of quarterback and a rocket arm. I think Drake May
• 23:33
  Speaker 13: is a plus arm. I think he's you know, kind
• 23:38
  Speaker 13: of prototypical. But I see it more as like a
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: Jordan Love as an NFL pro comparison. It's still a
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: great player, right, I guess my My other feeling is,
• 23:51
  Speaker 13: you know, if this offensive line situation is really not
• 23:55
  Speaker 13: good this year, I think in the best interest that
• 23:59
  Speaker 13: Drake made it not play.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: But how will we know that just because yeah, I mean,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: we find that out before you know, when it's too late.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: You know, how do you know if the line is
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: going to be good before they start playing games? And
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: if you want me in there right away, he's going
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to be in those games.
• 24:18
  Speaker 13: Well, I don't think they should play him right away.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: So regardless if he's good enough to play.
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: Well, he might be physically good enough, but I don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: think he's going to be a full field reader by
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: the time the NFL season opens. I mean, that was
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: one of the big knocks on him coming out is
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: that he was kind of a first read guy. So
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: I think he's gonna need some time not only just
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: getting used to the playbook this offseason, but also working
• 24:52
  Speaker 13: on his footwork and becoming a full field reader. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: I think Jacobe Brissette is starting no matter what. And
• 25:00
  Speaker 13: I think if we see bad offensive line play, then
• 25:05
  Speaker 13: you know he can't go in until the offensive line improves.
• 25:10
  Speaker 13: And if it doesn't improve, then you know, I see
• 25:14
  Speaker 13: a whole year with him not playing.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: All right, Thanks, Tim, I mean count me among those
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: that absolutely hate that mentality.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, the whole thing where I veer off of
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: what Tim was saying is he's gonna Jacoby Brissett's gonna
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: start no matter what.
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: Why.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, so it has nothing to do with the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: offensive line. I mean, this is Tim's view, and this
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: is a lot of people's view, but it has nothing
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: to do with the offensive line. You don't think that
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Drake me is going to be ready to start, he
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: may not be, and if he's not, I would suggest
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Tim's right, don't play him. But he says, but if
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: he's ready to play, I don't care what the offensive
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: line he can't. I want my third overall pick to
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: elevate people around him.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And when you say no matter what, then you're
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: saying even if he's head and shoulders better than perset,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and I don't that I don't agree with. I mean, listen,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: you can come up with examples of it working every
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: different way, and you can also come up with examples
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: of it not working every.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: If he's not ready, I don't want him to play.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: That's where I agree with Tim. If he's not a
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: you know, if his footwork is still a mess, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: he hasn't, you know, learn how to read the field
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: and see the field properly, I'm with Tim. I don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: want to play him, but I'm assuming that we're having
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: a good training camp right where he shows that he
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: can do those things. And the comparison to Josh Allen
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: is not about like level of play, it's style of play.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Like he might never be anywhere near what Josh Allen
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: was four years ago, let alone now. He might never
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: get to that level. But stylistically he plays in a
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: similar style. He's a bigger quarterback who doesn't necessarily elude you.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: He runs through you, and he has a big arm.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Doesn't have Josh Allen's arm, No one does.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not quite the freight train that Josh Allen is.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: To me, like hell run through, but he plays in that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: That's where the comparison is. Yeah, And a lot of
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: people say, justin Herbert, that's the mix.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: It's a mix of those guys to me, And it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: not either one of them is perfect, but I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: there's little elements of both that if you kind of combined,
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: And that's that's kind of what I just want.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Like Tim, like I've used that comparison a lot.
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: I don't.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I would never even dream of putting him on that
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: level of ability. He has never played a game. Yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: so I agree with Tim, Like, it's not it's not
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: call him Josh Allen. I don't think anyone is. I
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: think they're just kind of comparing them.
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just to categorize the guys, like it's just
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: leading up into the draft. How else do you get
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: these players to resonate with fans who don't really know
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: as much about it. You have to give it, you
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: have to give a comparison, but you can't read too
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: much into it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Like yeah, I mean, even I think we get on
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: the field on ota is you'll start to get a
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: little bit of a sense. But on one point I
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: wanted to make off that call though, is that I'll
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: be very disappointed if this offensive line.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Is a disaster this year.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Like, I think that that's a huge miss if that,
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: if that ends up happening, I think that they have
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: enough depth there that they should be able to salvage
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: a serviceable, dedicated coach. Dedicated coach guy knows what he's doing.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: He's been trained for a while under Bill Callahan. So
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, kind of like Elliott Well, some
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: of these guys have been apprentices to do what they're
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: doing now. And you know, if that ends up short
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: circuiting this season and harming Drake May's development, I think
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: that's something that you really have to look at as
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: a point of criticism.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: Where we all knew it. We knew it was a
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: disaster last year. It wasn't addressed.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: We knew it was you know, we knew that that
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: was a big piece that had to be fixed, and
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: you went the wide receiver route. It seemed like even
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: if you traded back into the second round, you wanted
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: to go to the wide receiver route.
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: So I do think that that's an area that you
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: have to watch.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: And that they I think they should be okay, though
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: good enough at least to not be like we can't
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: even put a rookie in because it's just the guys
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: are flying it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I think that's going to depend on what they do
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: for a system. Evan's been talking about this a lot about,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: you know, protecting the offensive line, and that was one
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: of the things that really stuck out to Mike and
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I yesterday when we were watching a lot of those things,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: and how many times Brady was the offensive line.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: It was amazing.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: How many times was absolutely immediate pressure Yeah, didn't matter
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: because you knew, he knew it was coming, he knew
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: where it was coming from.
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: Now, there's always going to be offensive line complaints.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that there will be because I
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: don't think they've really done anything to address. So I
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: think they're going to have a similarly in terms of
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: the way they play. It's going to be similar, But
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I think the offense is going to probably do more
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: because it's going to be so different and to protect that, yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: and but sort of and hide that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: But will the communication be better on that?
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know those things to be, but that that
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: can help.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: It would have helped even last year with those guys,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: better communication even would have helped them.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: I mean I think even just in a heavy wide
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: zone system where you know, you want to I mean,
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Drake's athletic, I mean, Jacoby's pretty athletic. I mean you're
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: gonna be running bootlegs with them, you know, stuff like
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: that off of play action. So you know, I do
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: think that there's some stuff baked into this offense that
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: you know, can just help. It's not going to just
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: be a spread attack where make sure we had the protection, right,
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: that's you know, not have any you know, free runners,
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: which is what you've seen a lot the last couple
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: of years, is those guys where it's like, well that
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: play had no chance because they were they weren't they
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: didn't have it protective, you know, And.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: If a good defensive coordinator can create that anyway, that's
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: where the quarterback comes in, right, right, What do I
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: do when it's a red alert.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that feeds into the question of and you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: to Tim's point about you know, I don't think you
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: need to feel that a quarterback is ready to read
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: the full field before you can put him in. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: do think there's ways that you can manage young quarterbacks,
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: you know. And and but how much are they gonna
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: put on Drake may I? You know, we again go
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: back to the breething. I mean, everything was on him,
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: he could, you know, And I think that was one
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: of the big criticisms of, you know, the system that
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: they kept going after Josh with Mack, that you put
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: so much on the quarterback that if he.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: Misses one thing, he's dead.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: So now, you know, I know there's you know, David
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Anders been saying he's gonna start calling the protections and stuff.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: So I do think that there's some mechanical shifting going
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: on within this new system that that I hope will
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: help keep them all on the same page.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Our first feedback on the Brady tickets, Carlos writes in
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the show, just wanted to give an update on the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame cermony. Tickets are sold out and the
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: cheapest verified resale ticket was around two seventy five.
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, also wanted to ask what your guys opinion was
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: regarding to do your job signs being removed from the facility.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I personally feel like it makes sense considering it was
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the previous coach's mantra. It's interested to hear your thoughts.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel the same.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, you've got to put your own stamp on
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: the team, You've got to put your own pictures up
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: you want to you know, that's that's I mean, that's
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: probably one of the fun parts of things that I
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: like about coaching is you have to have your own
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: philosophy and you know, those things are so attached to
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Bill and I mean the general sentiments kind of remains
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: with what you see, Like we not me saw some
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: of the signs that you know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: Supposedly that they had up.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: But you know, that's that's what each coach has in
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: their discretion and how they want to you know, what
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: messages they want to boil down and really want the
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: team to focus on.
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: So it's funny, it's become a narrative kind of because
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: it's like, has football been renovated in like twenty years,
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: Like they probably needed to refrash.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: I just did the whole thing. They justly Yeah, like
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: before like what was that it's inside of ten years anyway.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, when they Yeah, they redid a lot down there.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah they did the whole now but now they they
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: read it again.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying when we moved, when I like, when
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: we moved over to the other side of the building,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: that all football all changed. That's not that long.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: No, when we first moved, Bill's office was right up front,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: right and he had a window looking out. And then
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: when they redid it, they moved his into more.
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: The interior didn't want the window anymore.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: They didn't want a window anymore.
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: Regardless, Like if you bought a house, if you bought
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: a house and the previous owners were like driving by
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: to see like what you were doing, Like don't update
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: the don't take the floors out like we worked hard
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: on this, or like oh you can't take the cabinets
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: or redo the kitchen.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Like for my pic, it's less about the snappy little
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: sayings because I'm not a big fan of Yeah, I
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: think that's I totally agree with Alex on that, like
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: take all of that out and put yours in it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: like to use to continue Alex's like home analogy, like no, no, no,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: you have to have the pictures of my family up there, right,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna put you know what I want. What I
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: am a little bit curious about is and I read this.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: This was Cameron Wolfe's piece on NFL dot com, who
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: was here for the draft, so he had sort of
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: evidently a little bit of a tour and info session
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: about all the things. I'm a little surprised they took
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: away as many of the pictures of past success. I
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: would think that's something that you'd want to embrace, but
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, they decided to take all that away.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: But do your job, and now it's I have no
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: problem with any of that. Like Jimrod should have what
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: he feels is an important messaging on the walls. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: totally agree with his team. I'm with Alex, especially.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: With the big criticism of you know, former Patriots assistants
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: trying to be Bill, like you can't like always just
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: keeping do your job, you know, like that's Bill's thing,
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: like he heeds.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I did like the camera and this is just the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: one little critique I would say, And this was nothing
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: to do with what the Patriots have done. This was
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: the way it was written in the piece. It was
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: like they did have a picture of Belichick with other
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: past coaches. Oh well, that's nice, you know Rod rust
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, you know Bill Boshells. I just thought that
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: was kind of odd that they had, like that's what
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: they banished him too, like all with all the rest
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: of the you know, the memorable coaches and scouts.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: I thought that was a little strange.
• 34:42
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• 35:50
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• 35:56
  Speaker 10: Hey, Hey, guys, can you hear me?
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 36:00
  Speaker 15: That a question about something I haven't really seen discussed
• 36:03
  Speaker 15: on the show so far. Looking at pats caps, the
• 36:08
  Speaker 15: Patriots to have around fifty million in cap space. Do
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: you expect them to spend that this season or do
• 36:14
  Speaker 15: you expect them to roll it over? And if you
• 36:17
  Speaker 15: do think they're going to spend it, what position slash
• 36:20
  Speaker 15: players do you think they may potentially use it on?
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I do expect to expect them to spend
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: if not all of it, most of it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: I don't, I don't. I just don't see where they
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: can right now. That's my only thing.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, where are you just going to get it
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: a fie million in caps?
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: I mean I could see Matthew Judon getting a little sweetener,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: but that's.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Not that could get forty billion.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's you know, they they definite they
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: need Look, they need five ten million to sign all
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: the draft picks and everything.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: So well I thought that was counting. That is that
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I thought that that number took in to account the draft. Yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: so I mean also the neighborhood they have fifty they
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: have fifty million, you know in the draft. I mean
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: that's usually the way Miguel does it. Yeah, okay, but
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: maybe he didn't and I would say, you need you
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: definitely need some money for I R and you know
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: stuff like you know in season.
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah sort of, but still that but that's still a
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: pretty big number.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: That's a huge it's a huge number.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: But I'm just like, I'm with you. I don't like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: there's not a big ticket.
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: Item that you can talk about your thing.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's a it's a subtraction that they're saving.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: It for a subtraction that they're saving it, I mean
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: dead money.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not going to be fifty No.
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: But you know, little chunks here and there. You know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: you get a little sweetener.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: For you might get another another extension too, who knows.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I mean bar More was one. I was surprised there
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: wasn't as much. Who else redre Andre could get one
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: one probably wouldn't heat up too much space.
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: That narratives kind of started to about it.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, already, huh, well yeah, I mean the
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: media obviously turns to him. There came in, you're gonna
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: get your Yeah, you really deserve it, you know. That's
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: how like some of them do it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: That's what they do in New York.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they go up to the guy in the you know, boy,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: You know they do that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: They do that to one guy in New York. Then
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: they go to the other guy that might play the
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: same position. A do you believe they gave that money
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: to that guy? My god, you're better than him.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: And then before you know it, he's just yep. Yeah,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: school girls.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: And that's why Parcels calls them commies subvert from within.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: And hi, evn't hi. How's Mike on one?
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: You he's good?
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing has changed about Mike on One who except
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: a role X. He said that at that he bought
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: with his new contract. But he didn't say no.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: No, no to ask a good question.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't get the model.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Was that an elected that he was riding?
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: No, I think it was a I don't think so,
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: but I guess he said that the defensive players got
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: them last year apparently, and some of the guys left
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: them here. Uh, you know, over the just leave him here.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: And so it wasn't his bike, it was somebody else's bike.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Was the story? Big stuff?
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: What was Bentley saying about the kind of culture stuff?
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: I just saw him saying stuff about things. It's it's
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: all across the building.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, there's news, there's new slogans and pictures.
• 39:23
  Speaker 16: Whiney can adult today, Cameron Wolf somewhere in the world
• 39:32
  Speaker 16: from NFL network, I think right network.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: He had written his story obviously had some access to
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: to girod and he had written a story about some
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: of the new pictures and slogans. And you know, they
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: revamped football. It's not Bill's football operations anymore. So it's
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: there's different, uh stuff going on and uh and so
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: they they asked Jwan Bentley about what's your favorite slogan
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: and his was progress process something now is off the
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: top of my head, I cannot remember that's it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: Wow, yeah, I read it in.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: The process progress payoff is what it is. And he
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: just said that that that's his favorite out of the
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: few that are floating around. But he did say we
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: have a slogan coach, well when that comes, well he did.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: He did say that, you know, it doesn't really matter.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: He was like, thank you, but yeah, he was like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: if you don't walk the walk, then you know, the
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: slow the slogan really isn't gonna gonna do much for you.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: But yeah, he uh, you know, opened the press conference
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: with Celtics, ended it with Celtics. So I was happy
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: about that. Okay, that's what's really important right now.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, Evan, did you have a chance to send your
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: best wishes to Mike Gorman? And if not, I did
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: on Twitter?
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it motivated you to get into the business.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: I don't. I mean I didn't want to do the
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: job that he does, so I wouldn't say that. But
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: as a as a as a Green teamers, somebody that
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: bleeds green, I'm okay with saying that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: Did you cry?
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: It got a little Dusty full fledged tried.
• 41:08
  Speaker 10: I have I have photo evidence because it did.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: And I'm not and I'm not just saying this because
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: you know I'm tough. No, I'm not really a crier.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: I am a crier, and that's not something that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Was when when he when he got he was getting
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: choked up. You could tell on his final sign off.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: And it must have been a puddle when Tom Heysen left.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Well what about Johnny most That one hurts you way
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: before my time.
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: Only true Jack's last game tonight too, Right, Well, that's.
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: What I was going to bring up my Jack.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think so they don't many.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: People sucD Rock.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: I do you think he's feeling like That's what I
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: didn't get because they said that Game seven would be
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: on ABC, But I didn't know if there was an
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: implication that they would lose.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: No, No, there's no so that local TVs only get
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: first round.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I thought in the NHL they got the second round.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Maybe anymore. I think Mike said last night Orman said
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: that eight was the last time that they had No.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: I thought the NHL was two rounds. Yeah, and he
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: wrote he did some interview. I'm sorry, I don't know
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: if he did a couple. I don't know which one
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: it was from, but he said that he still hasn't
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: forgave the NBA for selling their souls to the big
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: networks and getting you know, the local guys out of
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: the playoffs. You know, he's still that still bugs him
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: to this this day.
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: The cowards too, cowards.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: It's funny. I love Mike Gormy, I do, but I
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: can't wait for the playoffs so I don't have to
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: watch the local broadcasts, especially in hockey.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Oh I don't watch anyway, You don't watch. I know
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I watched the National.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: It's just better.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: It's it well, sometimes depends on what you're I just
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: like when something happens and I actually gets might actually
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: have happened, like when you watch the Bruins and I
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: know this is like taboo now because it's so sad
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: that and I do agree that it's sad that Jack
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Edwards has to just step down because you can't do
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: it anymore. But like, I'd like to know what actually
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: happened on a play as opposed to the fiction worlds
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: that Jack Edwards.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Jack Edwards is Sean McDonough yeah.
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: When Jack Edwards compared the Bruins win to the Revolutionary War, though,
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: but that's a classic.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: That's a classic.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, it was different.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Give me when I just what I don't like about
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: the national because I know ESPN just took over and
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: TNT just took over, and as somebody that watches the
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Bruins every single night, they don't know the team, like
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: they really don't, you know, they well I don't really
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: care about that, but they don't know the team and
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: that bugs me. Like I'm sitting there, like watching it,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: and like they're talking about a guy that isn't even
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: in the lineup that night, or hasn't scored a goal
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: in ten games, and they're pumping them up or something
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: like that, and I'm like, have you guys actually been
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: watching this team play?
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: I hear that I haven't heard things like that, and
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I just I'm with you, Fred, I've watched Sean McDonough.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: I think they've done a fantastic job with the Toronto
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: series and they've gotten some of the the behind the
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: scenes stuff. Now what helps for Sean that he's a
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Boston guy, so he probably does have a little I'm.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Not talking as much about the play by play guys.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about the.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Think it's been terrific. And I like Brickley, but I
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: just think he gets sucked into the homersm of Jack
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: And yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: I can't I can't handle that. I can't stand Scal awful.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: It's awful.
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: Now I have when I Scal's pretty good though, we'll.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: See play by play guy.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Syracuse Robot, Oh yours are mean. I feel
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: like Scal though, Like last night, he's still complaining about
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: the reps. They're up thirty points and he's still bitching
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: about how they're not handled that in the free throw discrepancies,
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: like twenty to two as it should have been, like
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: the Celtics were the more aggressive team. But like Scal's
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: going off about the refs and I'm just like, dude,
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: they're winning the game by thirty points.
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: Is not the difference.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Six games all year, every one of them was because
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: of the refs. That Drew that Drew Carter kids just
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: like oh man, tough call. Like not every single time
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: they lose it's because of the rest.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I have to admit. When I was a green teamer
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: back in the eighties, I would listen to Johnny most. Yeah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I mean for the entertainment. I mean it was completely biased.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: It it was like ridiculous at times Tommy, but it
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: was just you had to listen to Johnny Mos.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I feel like scal is trying to be like Tommy
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: because Tommy always used to complain about the rafts and
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: all that stuff. But it's not the same, Like, it's
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: not this it was like when it was coming from Tommy.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: It was different for some reason.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: The only thing I would say about Scale and Tommy
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: is Tommy would die. Tommy would get down with the
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: ship like you kidding me, and then they would show
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: the replay and it'd be like blatant, right, and he
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: would just stay with it, like you know what. Scale
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: sometimes will watch the replay and go okay, all right,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: he probably got him on the yard there.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: That's the only plus I would say for Scale.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: But I totally agree with you.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: He's trying to rip off Tommy.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Scale points, Yeah, I don't know, it's just like
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: and I think if you did a poll of people
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: who watched the local broadcast, most of most of the
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: fans want that they want the home of view. They
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: don't want objective, don't there's two things there too.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Much Like I want for my local broadcast, I want
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: homers I do. I want to listen to my team
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: get excited when my team does well. That doesn't mean
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: that I'm not calling what's going on on the game
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: in the game. And Mike Goleman was great because he
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: actually told you what was happening happening in the game
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: when it was to me the heyday was Mike, Tommy
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: and Bob Coozy. And when Kozy would tell you five
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: minutes into the game, Bird and Company didn't come to
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: play tonight. This game is going to go down a
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: little Why because they were so good they could turn
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: it on and off in the middle of a game.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: He'd tell you they're not they didn't come to play tonight.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: He wouldn't just.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Say the referees have put them in a hole in
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: the first quarter, which is what happens now.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: And that's I don't mind. I want Jack Edwards' enthusiasm,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: but when the Bruins commit a penalty, I don't want
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: it to be a bad call every time. He called
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: the ref of coward the other night for being the
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: first guy off the ice, like I don't.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: I just I didn't.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: I didn't appreciate it. I understand, so he's probably just
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: like whatever, like tell me what's happening in the game,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Like I don't mind that you're rooting for this. I'm
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: rooting for the team, like I want the Bruins to win.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: But hopefully he gets to call a win because the
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: way the Bruins look the other night, they are they're.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Trying to blow out.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry you get like three shots and forty minutes.
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: It's not the ref's fault that you lost the game.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: I swear to you. If if I have to listen
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: to Doris Burke call another Celtics Playoffs series against the Sixers,
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: I'll turn on the radio. I really like the horsebur She's.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Better with play by play as than color. Like color,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: she feels obligated to say something after every play, like
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I agree with criticism.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: She has talk.
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: The other day, I forget which game I was watching.
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: I think it was either a Knicks game or maybe
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: even the Bucks. But JJ Redick was in the booth wow,
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: and Doris made a joke about like.
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: Oh, they barely even guarded him.
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: Looks like like JJ Reddick out there like as a joke.
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: JJ did not take it as a joke. JJ was
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: silent for the next five minutes until halftime, and then
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: the other guy in the booth was like trying to
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: get JJ to talk, but it was so awkward. JJ
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: goes that was a little unnecessary. Right after she said
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: that it was silent, I was like, oh no, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: have secondhand like awkward.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: I can't do Doris. I just especially when they play
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: the Sixers, Like if they're playing a different team, it's fine.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: But she grew up in like South Jersey and she's
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: the biggest Joel Embiid fan on the planet.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I've heard that criticism.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I I just Boston fans.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Okay, well that's who the ones that are watching, Like
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: all of.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: The national meanies are all rooting against your team.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: That's not about rooting against them. I just don't need
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: to hear about how great.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Power to bring it back to the Patriots. You know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: during the game when we're covering the Patriots, I listen
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: to the broadcast whenever I can, and I'm doing the
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: blog and I hear people and it's amazing how right
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: off the bat, Jim Nance hates the Patriots. Mike Tarico
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: hates the Patriots, and I'm listening and I'm like, I'm
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: not getting that, Like they're doing an okay job. They're
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: not favoring and I get I would write, I would
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: say more so, especially in the early you know, two thousands,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: if you were the fan of another team, he would say,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Jim Nitz, all he talks about is the Patriots, I.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Would definitely say, especially like the Color guys who loved
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Bill right like it was completely apparent that these guys
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: are like bowing at the altar of it rightly. So
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: the guy won six titles. I understand why they had
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: such reverence for him, But I don't how you could
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: come out of any of those national broadcasts and think
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: people were rooting against Bill.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Phil Simms hates the Patriots.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: You know, like it's like I don't know, you know,
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: normally I I that does like I try not to
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: do that, and it does bug me, but but it's
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: it's clear as like day with Doris with the Sixers,
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Like I mean, every single time they set to play
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: the Sixers in the.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Playoffs, I'm probably not going to play the Sixers.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: Though, no, probably not. You We're lucky, we're saving ourselves
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: from that.
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: All that to say, we've had some like legendary like
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: Jerry red Mey and Don Ricillo, Mike and Tommy Gil Santos.
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: Like, yeah, legendary, we had it so.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: Good and Jerry, we we gotta let it go. With Donncillo,
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: he's not walking through that door.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: What was the much better pair of Fred the guy
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: before Sean McDonough and yeah.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Like but it's all about Don cracking. They were great,
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: like that was that was invented by.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: John Pearson.
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: Well that's me. That's good.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: That was really good the only and I dare I
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: don't want to speak for you, Alex, but I'm sure
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: we're probably in the similar boat. She's a lot younger
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: than you, don't kid. Donnacillo with the Red Sox obviously,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Mike Gorman with the Celtics and Jack Edwards with the Bruins,
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Like those were the three people that that's well. I mean,
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Jack Everard's been doing it for nineteen years, so I'm
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: only thirty.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: So like h Sean got a little bitter after he left. Yeah,
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: he actually complained was stole my act?
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: And he totally did. He sounded just like Sean who
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: had better me just like I think they were both excellent.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: I think they were both excellent. I like Donald solo
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: a lot. Now to Fred's point, not to the point
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: where I'm going to wage a Twitter campaign to try.
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: Right, like.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: The war camp.
• 51:46
  Speaker 10: I was working for Nesson mind you.
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: This was years after Don had gone to San Diego.
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: I would write a Celtics article or like a Bruins article,
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: and the comments would still be like, you guys.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: Got rid of Don, bring back and it was unreal. Yeah, good,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: good local announcer talk right there.
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: We didn't even mention my namesake or my my likeness.
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: I am.
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the national It's always a national crew for
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: Fred Chusick was a pretty good play by play guy.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he had. I had nothing to compare it to.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: I was Derek Sanderson, Keys to the game, Skate Skate Skate,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: I went to school with Derek Sanderson's son.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: But we're forgetting the best color guy for the Red Sox.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: He was the best.
• 52:33
  Speaker 9: The best experience I ever had in my career was
• 52:36
  Speaker 9: being a little Ness in intern and getting to watch
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: games with E and like as funny as he was
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: calling the games.
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: The stuff he said in the room. Oh, I write
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: a book.
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: I love that man.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: Why did you like that so much?
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Just just this little quirky you know, look at that
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: cheese and that one had hair on it, or you
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: know the time that he would swear on air and
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: then have to come back.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: After Dave Price has taken four minutes between pitches. He's
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: telling you this guy's a clown. That's why he was
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: the best.
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: The best example of how beloved Ech was was when
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: David Price and Eck had that little altercation on the plane,
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: and instead of all of the fans standing by their
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: star cy young pitcher, they said, hell, no x our
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: guy and just the man, terrible.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: Baby, he has the cards now or whatever you know
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: they want.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the phones. People are like,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: what are they talking about? Well, this is our show.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: We can talk about inside.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: We went over a lot of news.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to the ace ticket hut
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: line eight five five past five hundred. Landed is in Virginia.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: What's up landing? You guys?
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: Doing good?
• 53:47
  Speaker 12: So first time caller. I never thought I'd have to
• 53:50
  Speaker 12: call in until I heard read all all a Baby
• 53:54
  Speaker 12: on live radio.
• 53:56
  Speaker 17: I had to come to fall and talk about how
• 54:00
  Speaker 17: I agree with him on how drafted Joe Milton could
• 54:04
  Speaker 17: affect our third overall pick developments be I'm twenty two
• 54:10
  Speaker 17: years old. This is the first time a quarterback has
• 54:12
  Speaker 17: ever been younger than me, and to throw him into
• 54:16
  Speaker 17: a position like that, if time's crazy when you're dealing
• 54:20
  Speaker 17: with I love Patriots, I love our fan base.
• 54:23
  Speaker 12: We're very uh, we're not very forgiving, and so I
• 54:28
  Speaker 12: want to put our quarterback in the best position possible
• 54:31
  Speaker 12: the defense.
• 54:32
  Speaker 15: But I also had a question for you guys, at
• 54:35
  Speaker 15: what point do you.
• 54:36
  Speaker 12: Guys think we can evaluate Draws Elliott's draft class. We
• 54:41
  Speaker 12: have to wait a year, two years, five years, wouldn't
• 54:45
  Speaker 12: be going to be able to look back and say,
• 54:48
  Speaker 12: how was their first draft at our GM and head coach?
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, good question.
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: I mean, thanks Landon, I mean training camp. I mean,
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: I'm not with it. That's not the final evaluation.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: But I think right way, you're gonna know if these
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: guys can play the receivers, and you know, you're gonna
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: get a sense of Drake May right away. You're gonna
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: get a sense of where these offensive linemen are in
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: the depth chart.
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: How much is Kayden Wall is he at left tackle?
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: Is the starter?
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: I mean you can't make a final definitive judgment till
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: a couple of years evaluation.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's different places and each of them have
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: their own criteria, you know. But like you said, you
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: can't make the final call, the definitive call until like
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: two years, like if you.
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: Had made the call about Mac after his first season
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: compared to you know what I mean, Yeah.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: People did, and.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: If you want like the final pictures, I'm with Duce.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: I think that one of the biggest players require one
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: of my biggest pet peeves is like, oh, you have
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: to wait three years, and you know, when we get
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: out there in training camp, especially for the skill player
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: guys like Jalen Polk and Javon Baker, we're gonna know
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: if those guys have got the juice or not, like
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: pretty much right away, when when Javon Baker lines up
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: against Christian Gonzales, can he get away from him or not?
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: Like we're gonna be able to see that.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: I agree that's short extent, but I would say, you know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: just as a point of recent comparison, during training camp,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: rookie year of Taekwon Thowton, I would have told you
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: this guy has some of that that you were talking about. Yeah,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: I thought he was pretty good in his first camp.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Never Never did I think he was pretty good when
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: the game started.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think you have you need two years
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: because of the MAC thing, Like you need to see
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: how the when the league reacts, in the league adjusts,
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: is he's still going to be good post adjustment and
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: that usually takes at least a full year to be
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: able to see him. At least one full year, but
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: probably too.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: And like to Mike's point, I think there's a chance
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: you might see Kayden Wallace at left tackle or even
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: right tackle. You know, I brought that up before when
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: you were still doing the interviews, like if if you
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: see would it be stunning to see both Wallace and
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: a core for a corps for it left and Wallace
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: at right?
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: I don't know, that's what.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not expecting that, but I mean I wouldn't be
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: stunned to see it. Yeah, I mean that doesn't mean
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: to me, that doesn't make it. It doesn't make it
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: a good draft, right, like it means that he's better
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: than Calvin Anderson and Connor McDermott who they cut.
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I mean I think too.
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: It's it's it's directly related to like what they need,
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: you know. It's like if they have in the key spots,
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: like you know, if the guard Robinson doesn't work out,
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: it's not.
• 57:13
  Speaker 8: That big a deal. But you know Wallace the receivers.
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: I mean then, I mean, I'm thinking back to seeing
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: to Kill Harry in training camp, seeing Cole Strange in
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: one on ones in training camp as a rookie, and
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: you know, you got bad juju vibes out of those
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: juju not juj, but you got bad vibes kind of
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: out of the gate of like is this guy can
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: this guy play? Because he like, you know, I mean,
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: Nikil Harry looked great from like the point he walked
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: to the top of the stairs to the sideline and
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: then it's just started, right.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: I was like this close to callin Nikill Harry a
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: bust and OTAs before his rookie training camp, and it's crazy,
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: you know, it's like, well, let's wait, let's wait, because
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Fred wasn't overly impressed either, but like you know, he's
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: a rookie, first round pick. You want to give him
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: a chance. Like you want to give him a chance,
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: but you know, kind of back full cracle to our
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: announcer category. If you're tell it everybody, then everybody's great,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: and then they actually see them play and they're not great,
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: then what does.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: That make you? Anybody have an example of someone who, uh,
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: we thought was a bust but then ended up not being.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: Huh, that's a good question, because I have a million
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: the other.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, a million the other way. But someone this
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: guy can't play and then all of a sudden he
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: surprised everybody.
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: I'm struggling. Yeah, I'm trying to so the closest I
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: can come.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: And I wouldn't say bust because he was like a
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: third round pick, but like Anthony Jennings, I thought on
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: the way out of town, Yeah, yeah, he couldn't get
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: on the field. When he did get on the field,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: he didn't do anything. Yep, And all of a sudden
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: he got a you know, his first real extended opportunity
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: last year, and I thought he played really well.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: That's a good example.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, late bloomers like that, Yeah.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Late bloomers.
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: I'll still think about that. But just one other point
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: I want to make was like with and when you
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: like you kind of knew right out of the gate,
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: this guy's involved, like they're getting him at right guard,
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: they're getting him at right tackle, like he's in there
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: a lot like.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: You put you right out of the gate. This guy's
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: going to play, yes, you don't know out of the
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: gate is he going to play well?
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: And then that's that's all you got.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: That's my thing.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: And I say this to Fred all the time. They
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: always tell you when it doesn't look good for a guy,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: you can't to Evan's point, you can't evaluate you need,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: you need three years. Can't evaluate these guys. But God
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: help us if a guy looks good. On September seventh,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: mailed it what a draft pick? Like, nothing can change,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: Nothing can change. And I'm telling you there's a lot
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: of guys that look good out of the gate. Chad
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Jackson looked unbelievable out of the gate, never did really
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: anything for the paper.
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: I think to it's it's like situational because you know
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: the positions of need and you know when you just
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: see the coaches are giving a guy a chance, like
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: it's hard to know. Are they putting him in there
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: to see how he plays with the around the other ones.
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: We're not sure if this guy is really talented. Let's
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: put him with the ones and see how he kind
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: of looks out. Is he moving, you know, at the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: same speed as those guys, or you know, is this
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: somebody that we really see potential in and and you
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: know we think he's Malcolm Butler.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, Malcolm Butler was one of
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: those guys that right away in ot A as you
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: saw them like with regular players, and you're like, they
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: have they have some confidence in this guy.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Hey, joining us right now on the WebEx Cisco line
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: is Mike Reese from ESPN. Hey Mike, what's up?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Fred?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Hey Paul?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: What's up again?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Cubicles?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Are you in the building forever?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, you're right here. I wanted the field. Yates had
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: a nice like bookcase behind him. He's rich May that's the.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: Stadium.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Mike. I know we've got you on a laptop and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: what you see is not what everybody else is seeing.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: So just so you know that but In We've got
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Deuce here, We've got Alex, We've got Evan, Paul myself.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: So thanks for joining us. What's up? How you doing?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: How's your uh off season been so far?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 14: Everything is great, Alex. I'm so happy you're in there.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 14: I didn't see you when I was looking at the screen.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 11: So awesome.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 14: N everything is great, Fred, it's been it's been a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 14: great off season. And I want to tell you yesterday
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 14: was a great day and just seeing Alex made me
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 14: think of it. I was down in Providence with six
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 14: players and it was really a very meaningful thing.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 14: I know we're going to talk a lot about the football,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 14: but I went down there because the team had They
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 14: were working with this Foster Forward or Not, you know,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 14: nonprofit organization that set up three apartment units for three
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 14: youth that are aging out of foster care. And Fred
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 14: it was like an amazing building that they put together,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 14: and with the Patriots being down there, it brought a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 14: lot of media and and I was sort of uplifted
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 14: by being there.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: It was really cool to see.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: That's cool. And Mike, you you've always been really good
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: at covering those events, one because you know they're nice
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: events and like you said, uplifting, but you're also smart
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: because those are times where you get to know the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: players a little bit differently.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Freddie Adam so Jacoby.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 14: I hadn't seen him since he got traded in twenty seventeen.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: And he looked at me and he goes, you look
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 14: And I said, Jacoby, that's like the biggest compliment you
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 14: can give me right now, like, because I.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Don't feel the same. I feel old, I'm tired.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: My go ahead.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: I was just gonna ask you, Mike.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: You know you were here.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: You've been covering this team since, you know, the late nineties.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: I know you got your start with Fred, but so
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: much has changed this year, and just what has it
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: been like from your perspective, the shift from kind of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: how things had been now to Gerard and the energy
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: around the team. Just from your perspective talking to the fans,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're so plugged in. What's that experience been
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: like from you as the whole culture's kind of shifted
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: here in Foxboro?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 14: So just start with starting with Fred, because I was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 14: reflecting on that recently, nineteen ninety seven first ever game
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 14: deuce preseason lambeau Field. Oh my gosh, like like think
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 14: about that, Oh, it's your your first job out of college,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 14: and just go go cover a preseason game at lambeau
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 14: Field and Fred said to me.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Fred, I don't know if you remember this.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: You had your little camera with you.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Get down on one knee, Mike, and just just say
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: something about the game.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: I remember the old postgame shows.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, the best, the best.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 14: So I was reflecting on that, and I think in
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 14: a lot of ways, Mike, like, I'm trying to just
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 14: keep an open mind this offseason, because you get used
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 14: to something for twenty four years and it's you know,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 14: sometimes you get thinking like that's the only way to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 14: do something, you know, and it was so successful that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 14: it's like I can it's normal to think that way.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 14: So as I'm older now, Mike, so like, I'm trying
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 14: to keep an open mind to say, Okay, don't judge
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 14: what's happening as much as just let it unfold and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 14: report on what's happening, if that makes sense.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: It feels more open. It feels a little I.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 14: Don't want to use the word looser, but just like
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 14: like a little bit of like everyone took an exhale
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 14: and it's sort of like, Okay, let's let's move this
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 14: forward and try something a little different.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, Mike. We can read what you had to say
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: about the draft on ESPN. So I don't want to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: really get into like, you know, how do you think
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: this guy is going to do? And so on. But
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: in terms of one of the conversations that's going on
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: now is do you play Drake May right away? Or
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: you know, no matter what, do you let do you
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: have him sit at least for some of the season.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Are you in a camp or on that on that take.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 14: I'm in a total camp of let it play itself out,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 14: for like, I don't understand why anyone would have to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 14: be like he has to play. And actually someone at
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 14: ESPN texted me that today he's the number three pick.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 14: He has to play, and I said, I guess I'm
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 14: in the other camp of it will we will know
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 14: based on what we see, Yeah, and by by setting
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 14: like a declarative like it.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: Has to be this.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I just I don't understand that.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is also the camp that says he
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: has to sit and I don't agree with that either. Yeah,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: me neither.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 11: Friend.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 14: So, but so here's my question to all of you,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 14: like why, like why I understand we have debate and
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 14: we have to feel like airtime, but why do we
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 14: have to like say that it has to happen. Why
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 14: can't we let it play itself out and whatever happens
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 14: on the field dictates the decision, Like I guess I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 14: don't understand.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Someone enlighten me.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's a great point because if you go
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty one, I don't think anybody was
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: spending this saying.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: Mac Jones has to play, he has to be the starter.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: You couldn't have had much worse quarterback play the year
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: before with Cam Newton. So I don't remember everybody just
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: saying definitively yeah, but like the fifteenth overall pick has
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: to play, but the third overall pick has to play.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: Like to Mike's point, let the process play out.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: He and I usually locks down. I don't know if
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: you know, it's the best part of the award.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: And that's what you're telling.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing with Mac. With Mac, had he sat,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: do you think it would have made a difference, Like
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: if he had sat behind Cam Newton for half the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: season or even a season, do you think it would
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: have helped Mac Jones?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 15: No?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 14: I fred I personally thought like at that point, like
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 14: it was so clear to everyone that was at practice
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 14: that he gave him the best chance to win.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: So I think it would have hurt the team if
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: he sat.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Definitely would have hurt the team.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, explain your reason, because this is something we
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: did talk about on the show about how the the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: like the sort of a message that gets sent.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 14: So if you're so to me, Paul, like, if you're
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 14: sending a message that it's all about competition and the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 14: best players will play, and it's it was so remember
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 14: when Mack had that practice against the Giants. Yep, it
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 14: was so obvious at that point that it was the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 14: offense was running a certain way with Mac that it
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 14: wasn't with Cam that I felt like Coach Belichick owed
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 14: it to the team to play Mac because if he didn't,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 14: what message was he sending to the players, We're going
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 14: to play a quarterback that.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Doesn't give us the best chance to win. But it's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna focus.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 14: Here on the development of one player over what gives
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 14: the team the best chance to win. It's a balance, obviously,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 14: but when it was, if it's that decisive, I think
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 14: you just let let that decision play itself out by
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 14: what happens on the field. And if it's like this, so,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 14: how about this, would Jacoby and Drake? If it's close
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 14: who Jacoby right?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: That can't hurt.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 14: Drake will probably have to be that much better than
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 14: Jacoby to get the nod, just because it makes sense to.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Play it a little safe. Yeah, you know, if does
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: that make that that's.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Sort of my view. Yeah, So I'm not going to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: go run down the draft. But other than Drake, who
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: was your favorite pick for the Patriots or who's the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: guy that you're most intrigued about seeing?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: So I went with the last one, Fred Bell, the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: tight end jahem Bell?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Did I say it right? Evan?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good answer, all right, And here's why.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: So I have to be honest.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 14: I don't study the players as close as Evan does,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 14: So I have to stay within what I feel most
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 14: comfortable in my wheelhouse.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: And I look at opportunity based on the roster.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 14: So Hunter Henry, we know he's going to be there
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 14: at tight end, Austin Hooper pretty good, Betty's going to
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 14: be there behind him at tight end.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: So I look at like there's a spot behind those two.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: If Bell can do.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 14: Sort of what he did last season, catch and run
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 14: short and intermediate roads, and so I like the opportunity
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 14: in this, you know, for him there, and I think
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 14: he's sort of a different maybe type of tight end,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 14: sort of a not necessarily an inline guy and maybe
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 14: fits well with what Alex van Pelt and the Browns
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 14: have done with their tight ends.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, absolutely, I think that he has the most
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: explosiveness out of the group, definitely on I mean, Hunter
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: Henry's mister reliable, mister steady, but there's no doubt that
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Jahim Bell is the best athlete in that room right now. Mike,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about Elliott Wolf's future and
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: just your read on you know, are they going to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: interview people to maybe be an official general manager or
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: above him even on the totem pole, And do you
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: think that he there's a chance that he's given the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: title after this offseason?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 14: So my read is that and I don't know this
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 14: for sure, Evan, but I assume he's just going to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 14: continue in his role. And if this was sort of
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 14: like a trial run for Robert Kraft to feel comfortable
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 14: with it, I think he did a good job and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 14: he continues to do a good job in terms of
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 14: these resignings that we're seeing.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: So if there are interviews. To me, it would be
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: to compliment.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 14: Elliott Wolfe, Matt grow Alonso high Smith, Patrick Stewart continue.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 14: I don't want to leave anyone out, but you get
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 14: my point. I believe that the structure they have will
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 14: stay in place. But I am and I don't think
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 14: it'll be like a general manager title unless I'm way
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 14: off on that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: It would be maybe like a vice president.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 14: Of player personnel, which is if I recall what it
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 14: was with Bobby Greer back in the late nineties, when
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 14: Pete Carroll was coach, what Scott Pioli was, what Nick
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 14: Cassari was, did I and check me all of you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 14: if I'm wrong on that.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: But no, there's no one. I mean, we know Bill was,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: but there was no one since I've been here that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: has had the title of general manager.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would argue that that title is higher than
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: the general manager. But I wanted to ask you something
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: that we were talking about earlier in the show, Mike
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: about the cap space the Patriots. I think Miguel has
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: it at around fifty million of cap space. Do you
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: anticipate the Patriots using much of that? I mean, obviously
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: there'll be expenses that are incurred to take up some
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: of that. But in other words, is there another maybe
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: big money extension that's possible between now in training camp or.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Portrayed on resigning or something. Yeah, I like the thought
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 14: We talked to Ramandre Stevenson two days ago and he
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 14: talked about it. I know running backs aren't like necessarily
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 14: the biggest ticket items. He would be one that comes
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 14: to mind that could use some of that space, But
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 14: I Paul, off the top of my head, I can't
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 14: think of anything that would use a significant chunk as
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 14: much as just like good to have the flexibility, right,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 14: opportunity presents itself in a trade that you have the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 14: flexibility to do that. I'm curious with all of you, like,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 14: are you thinking of something or am I missing something
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 14: with another player on the roster.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you kind of batted it around, and I don't think.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think any of us really envisions a big
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: ticket item coming available now. The obvious one as a
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: possibility would be one of the veteran wide receivers, you know,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: a T. Higgins or a Brandon Ayuk, and then you
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: acquire them and give them a big, you know, a
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: big contract.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: But I don't really think any of us envisions that.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: I can't think of anything, But I think an opportunity
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: will present itself, and I think I think they will
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: if they have an if they have a chance, they'll
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: they'll they'll take you know, they'll do it.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder if it's a you know, there's still
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: some veteran defensive players in free agency that didn't sign
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: before the draft. You know, Stefan Gilmore is obviously the
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: biggest name. I think Justin Simmons is still out there too,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken. But you know, Mike, do you
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: have any indication at all if if Gilmore would be
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: open to a reunion with the Patriots. And I don't
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: know if you know about his relationship with Gerard at all.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 14: You know, so so not too much Evan, And I
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 14: think I'm thinking about the position off the top of
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 14: my head. I mean, they possibly could use a little
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 14: help there, my gut. Evan tells me that they'd like
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 14: to see the young kids first before and so I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 14: think timing wise, I wouldn't sense like anything like right now.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 14: But I I you know, Stefan, I think I don't
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 14: think like this would be like a door closed type thing.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 14: But he's a very shrewd in my opinion, businessman, So
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 14: I don't think it would be like I want to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 14: come back on a short money deal. Like I think
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 14: he's going to be out there looking for a significant deal.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 14: And if ultimately the Patriots like, like, let's be honest,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 14: you know, like Christian Gonzalez incredibly promising, but I mean
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 14: he did get hurt right in the fourth game of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 14: his career the depth.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Mike, I just got a text from p R you
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: wanted elsewhere. You have something coming up in a couple
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: of minutes the room.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: They need room, Mike, So I'm.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Gonna let you go, but I appreciate you coming on
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  Speaker 3: and always always a pleasure to talk to. Mike g Reese.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome, all right, thanks for having.
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  Speaker 3: Me, Mike, Mike, all right.
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  Speaker 5: I always tell you.
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  Speaker 4: My favorite Mike Greece story is the day that I
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  Speaker 4: because I was hired to replace Mike Reese here, good job,
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  Speaker 4: and you know Fred the Kingmaker Pete Carroll was the
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  Speaker 4: coach at the time, and Brian Moorey introduced me to
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  Speaker 4: whoa big shoes to Phil.
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  Speaker 5: Then he goes, well, actually, but but welcome.
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  Speaker 6: But that's and that's Mike Reese two years out of college,
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  Speaker 6: Like that's his He established.
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  Speaker 4: That relationship professionalism even at that two years. That's why
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  Speaker 4: I tell the story not to take a crack at
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: Mike being small, but more so that the respect the
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  Speaker 4: head coach had all around.
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  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure probably twenty four years old.
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  Speaker 4: She's pretty sure when Andy Hart left in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 4: they didn't go to Mike do so and say, oh, Bill,
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  Speaker 4: oh that hurts.
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  Speaker 6: But after a head size and I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 10: Your head size is the angle.
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  Speaker 18: always were, start off with some trivia. I got some
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  Speaker 18: good stuff today, Chris. Don't answer it, all right, I might.
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  Speaker 18: Question one, when was the last time the Patriots wore
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  Speaker 18: their silver alternate jersey? All right, give me the week,
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  Speaker 18: the year and the opponent the week. Yeah you're yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 18: week the year, opponent?
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  Speaker 3: All right? Question two?
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  Speaker 18: Who caught Vinny Testaverde's only career touchdown passes the New
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  Speaker 1: What that is?
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  Speaker 18: And question number three, how many rushing yards did Fred
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  Speaker 3: As a New England Patriot? All Right, you probably don't
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  Speaker 11: Is either, Fred Taylor?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all right, Bill's guy.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get into it. Let's get it. Let's get
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  Speaker 3: into it. Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 18: Jack's guy, all right, okay, alright, right, So so so, Chris,
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  Speaker 18: there's been a while since we've done some of these
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  Speaker 18: because it's been kind of busy here a little bit.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, we had the draft, we did.
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  Speaker 18: We did Yeah, saw A class the first of the
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  Speaker 18: Mayo Mayo Elliott wolf Era. But no, we're gonna do
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  Speaker 18: a little breakdown on our end what we think of
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  Speaker 18: the draft, we think of the picks, and so Chris,
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  Speaker 18: what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Just like quick grade overall quick grade?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, before I give the grade to say, I think
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  Speaker 11: they hit all the pieces that they needed. Okay, were
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 11: they the right pieces, we don't know yet for sure,
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  Speaker 11: but overall I would give him around a B plus
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  Speaker 11: A minus.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going I was going B B plus.
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  Speaker 18: Listen, I think the may pick was needed, it was
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  Speaker 18: the gat, it was the right pick, and the way
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  Speaker 18: the board played out, I think they're very smart they
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 18: didn't trade that pick. I mean, you were on the
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  Speaker 18: draft countdown, we're talking about potentially, you know, getting a
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  Speaker 18: haul from the Vikings and trading back. But I mean,
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  Speaker 18: look what happened to the Raiders. Like Pennix went super early.
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  Speaker 18: He wasn't gonna be there in the second round.
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  Speaker 11: I mean that Penis pick is still nuts.
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  Speaker 18: But you could we could go into a whole thing
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  Speaker 18: about that too. But listen, I personally a little not
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  Speaker 18: disappointed because the pick needed to be done. The Caden
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 18: Walls and Leyden Robinson pick. They needed to be done.
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  Speaker 18: I just think there were some really good players on
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  Speaker 18: the board that you missed that, like, like, you know,
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  Speaker 18: we we took the tackle, but you know you had
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 18: Roman Wilson there, you had the other tackle from Pittsburgh,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 18: addas at Isaac the defensive end, and you know, I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 18: just feel, like Evan mentioned it, there was a top
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 18: tier line of tackles and I think we missed out
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  Speaker 18: in a couple. So I hope Wallace works out. And
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 18: then also with Polk, I listen, he's very good, and
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 18: it's tough because you know, you had all the shiny
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  Speaker 18: toys there, Adie Mitchell, Roman Wilson as mentioned earlier, and
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  Speaker 18: I guess Polk was hiding a lot of people's boards.
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  Speaker 3: The Nutburn Baker. The Baker pick made the Polk pick
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  Speaker 3: feel better.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 11: I think I was just about to pick your back
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  Speaker 11: off of the pole comment that you just made. But
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  Speaker 11: I think that Javon Baker picked by the Pats in
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 11: the fourth round, by the way, their second fourth round pick,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 11: which was even the kind of it was really piggybacked.
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  Speaker 11: I mean I already use that term picking back of
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  Speaker 11: for you, but that it was a huge ad with
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 11: the Jalen Polk pick, just because kind of counter one another.
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  Speaker 11: And also, I mean, whoever's playing quarterback this upcoming season,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 11: they have weapons around them and they haven't really had
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 11: that deep ball threat. Both of these guys are deep
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 11: deep ball threats. Jalen Polk especially, I mean one of
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 11: the better contested catch players in college.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: Football last year.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 11: So these both of these editions were huge for the team. Yeah,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 11: and again, I think that Jayvon Baker pick was high
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 11: on everybody's boards here in New England.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean I haven't got up draft guys, ivn't
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: got up.
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  Speaker 11: I haven't seen a remotion. I haven't seen a reaction
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 11: like that before. And it was pretty funny and so
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 11: Evan was pumped.
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  Speaker 18: It also shows that they were you know, it's been
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 18: a last since we had at true receive over here.
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  Speaker 18: I mean they reportedly made like tried make a move
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 18: for Xavier l Get and key On Coleman, who I
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 18: know Evan wasn't high on key On Coleman, but.
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  Speaker 3: I've already come to terms that since he's not here,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be a superstar. Yeah, that's just how That's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: just how you.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 11: Were saying forever that you thought is going to be
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 11: a bust.
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  Speaker 3: Was Evan talked my ear in my ear, he got
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  Speaker 3: on my ear, and I, you know, I hope he is.
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  Speaker 11: I've been I've been pretty high on Keon for the
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  Speaker 11: most part, but I he scares me a little bit
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 11: in the sense that he's very Harry esque. Yeah, and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 11: I mean he's serviceable, but when he a league, you
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  Speaker 11: don't know how he's gonna fully adjust the Bills. The
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  Speaker 11: Bills kind of made a move for him, essentially.
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  Speaker 18: It's funny because we talk about we talked about all
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  Speaker 18: these receivers, and I honestly don't think we mentioned Polk.
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  Speaker 18: I mean, Evan Deduce like wrote about him, but like
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  Speaker 18: in the Draft Countdown podcast, we didn't really talk about him.
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  Speaker 18: And then you like look at his tape and he's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 18: he's solid. You're just like overshadowed by Roma Dunde, who's
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  Speaker 18: a beast.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah. I think Evan had him in his uh. I
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  Speaker 11: think it was his twelve spot. Yeah, was this twelfth
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  Speaker 11: receiver on On in the draft and kind of in
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  Speaker 11: that second tier of guys aside from the Parrison's neighbors.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 11: And yeah, Brian Thomas's and everybody else up there. But
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 11: he was in that second tier. And I mean, to
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  Speaker 11: Evan's credit, he was. He wasn't one hundred percent on it,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 11: but he was. He was kind of there with what
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 11: he was writing. And I mean, our guys really did
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 11: a pretty good job of keeping track of the guys
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 11: that the Patriots were interested in this year.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 18: So another guy I wanted to talk about, and it
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 18: would have been a luxury pick, Jatavian Sanders.
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  Speaker 3: I think that was a potential miss.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 18: I mean he just kept dropping just the way the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 18: board was playing out. I mean, he actually was taking
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 18: two picks before Leyden Robinson and then you know, we
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 18: got a tight end in the seventh. But yeah, there
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 18: were beasts.
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  Speaker 11: There were two tight ends that I personally felt the
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 11: Patriots could take that weren't going to be in that
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 11: first year of tight ends. Uh, And it was Jatavian
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 11: Sanders and Jaheem Bell. I thought Jaheene Bell had a
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 11: really good career at South Carolina before coming over to
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 11: Florida State. By the way, Marcel Style and Yeah Dreams
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  Speaker 11: teammates teammates back in South Carolina in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 11: But when jahaem Bel made the switch to Florida State.
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  Speaker 11: I mean really, he became that number one tight end
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 11: on a college football team and that was a big
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 11: thing for him. And he flourished at Florida State. He
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 11: was great. So you know, he's really a bigger guy.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 11: He can get get targets and he's also a pretty
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 11: good run blocker. So the overall really solid pick for
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 11: the Patriots, something that they needed. And between those two guys,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 11: he was one of the two that I felt they
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 11: could take and they got him.
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  Speaker 18: So let's go into one more thing, and it was
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 18: a big thing on the filth third, Joe Milton, what
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 18: are your thoughts like that liston We Got It Machine.
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  Speaker 3: He's a beast.
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  Speaker 18: I think he's a great player or like a great athlete.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 18: He's a great quarterback. And you know, I'm I'm not
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  Speaker 18: in on ZAPPI nice kid, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 11: But he's great. I love love Bailey Zappy.
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  Speaker 18: I'm more at the thing, yeah, the Avon and Paul thing,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 18: which is like, you know, he's gonna look great and
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  Speaker 18: T shirts and a short. He's gonna throw a bomb
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 18: to Baker this summer. And you know, Drake May might
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 18: have some growing pains and stuff like that. And then
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 18: you got the twenty four year old freak athlete who's
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 18: gonna throw a deep ball and THENTO a backflip.
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  Speaker 11: That's so what's interesting about Joe Milton? And again we
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  Speaker 11: mentioned we already mentioned Bailly Zappy. It's kind of tough.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 11: He was released last season and uh, you know he
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 11: after being released last season was picked back up by
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 11: the Patriots. But Joe Milton, he's somebody that you know
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 11: has similar issues to Drake kind of pocking mobility is
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 11: not quite there. Yeah, but I mean he he has
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 11: ability to be the interesting quarterback backup possibly in this NFL.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: So I'm Milton over Zappy for backup.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 11: I don't know if he's I think kent with.
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  Speaker 3: It, because what kind of athlete doesn't want to go
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: for the starting job.
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  Speaker 11: Your three quarterbacks? But sorry, Milton, May and Versette this
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  Speaker 3: There you go, all right, Chris, thanks for joining.
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  Speaker 5: You have no water down on your your mats.
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  Speaker 3: What is the last time the Patriots wore their silver
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  Speaker 3: alternate jersey?
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  Speaker 14: Oh?
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  Speaker 8: I helped him rite anything the opponent in.
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  Speaker 5: I was literally just about to say Buffalo and you
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: jumped all.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: Over seven and they should Those are awful.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: I did have time. I apologize.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Who caught Vinnie Testaverdi's only career touchdown pass as a
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: New England Patriot?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: Christian Fourier incorrect?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: Daniel Graham incorrect. I don't even think they play it together.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Answer is Troy Brown.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: I knew it was one of those.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: I remember.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: I thought that was something about four being an answer
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: to a trivia question.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, with that over, finally, how many rushing yards did
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: Fred Taylor have as a New England Patriot?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 11: Oh?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 8: Boy, it's like two or three games. I'm going to
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 8: say four hundred and thirty eight.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: You would be wrong.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: Two hundred and seventeen.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Incorrect, one hundred and eleven, one hundred and fifty five.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 8: Fifty five.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: I remember, like, I think it might have been against
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: the Jets that he was because he was I mean,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: he probably maybe dressed for two games, but there was
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: one game at the Jets.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 8: I guess it was ten or nine that.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: That he had the he had like a really nice run.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: I remember it got called back for a penalty. And
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: this is the weird things to stick in your brain
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: and like, oh Fred Taylor, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you see
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: how it works, and then we never saw him again.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: Speaking of running backs, I have a question for the group.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: You guys want to give Rimandre a second contract?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: No, it would have to be very very team friendly,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: you know, coming off an injury right now and running
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: back and you know the way they go through right
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: backs here and it doesn't seem to hurt them.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't give him an extension now, but after the year,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: I would let him explode the market and take him
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: back on a friend.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: Can I throw a question back at you? No, I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: just to looking at the running back depth chart. I mean,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: considering what they want to, you know, probably do with
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: the wide zone. Do you feel like they have the
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 6: horses right now? I mean it's Stevenson and Gibson and
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: then a whole lot of math. I mean it's you know,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: Kevin Harris, undrafted, Deshaun Fenwick, Jamichael Hasty Keys, Shaan Vaughan.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, you got two guys, which is kind of
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: what you had last year. But I I just I'd
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: like another guy like and I'm not sure.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: Guy from Oregon State.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: Why does that ring a bell to me?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: I think so that sounds right.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, Fenwick just stick to me because he's not.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 8: He's not a bishop.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: H Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, obviously Antonio
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: Gibson fits it extremely well.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 8: But I I do wonder.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: I think Remandre doesn't in a in a one cut sense,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: you know, if he if you're asking Rimandra Stevenson to
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: turn the corner, then I don't think you're that's him.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: But if your plan is to, you know, just stretch
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: it and then cut it back up the field, I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: think that he could do that sort of thing. I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: do wonder if they would add another running back at
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: some point, you know, the Zeke Elliott type of signing,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 11: News.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think we mentioned that. The other day Tuesday,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: he did officially resign with fifteen.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 8: From Trey Lance. I can't get respect.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: I will say, you know, we talked a lot about
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: their ability to continue to win with all those quarterbacks.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: When Nick Chubb went down, the offense kind of maintained
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: some semblance of competence. So maybe they don't feel like
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: the the individual running back is as important as.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: I shouldn't be in that scheme. And yeah, I wonder
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: if they have a Zeke type signing.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: You know, late veteran addition and or Kevin Harrison.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: I'll just throw it out there. Jahan Bells played running back.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: YEP, I get my intel from FSU in house intel
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: on well I.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: Was going to say. I was like, do you have
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: an actual in because I'm writing.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: The profile according to the Patriots video guys.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: Scrap, yeah, one of our guys.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: He's a psychotic Florida State fan, and yeah he did.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: I saw him walking in the other day and I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: mentioned it to him. I was like, hey, we got one,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: you know, in Philodralphia for like twenty minutes and tell
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: you about all the place.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: That's what happened to me.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: He's like, wait, what happened?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Wait?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: Why weren't you guys in the playoffs?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 8: You just walk into that nest.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, I've done that before and into that just for fun,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: Fred just comes down to talk to like Matt sometimes,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: and every once in a while there's like a Scrap rant.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, I've heard right, And he looks and
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: he's like, what's going on down here?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, for those listening, this is a guy named
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: that's called Scrap that has a thick North Shore Boston.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: Is it a north Shore accent? Would that be accurate
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: way to say it?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: Boston?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: Just a Boston, pure bost Why you have to?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 6: I feel like the accents are the hardest, just because
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: we're better the hardest Boston accents.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 8: I feel like a north Shore Now, am I wrong?
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: Tell me I'm wrong?
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: Like right in the suite, Dorchester Southey, that's.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: The North Shores Boston and Rehab. Yeah, we're trying to
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: get rid of it.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: It's I mean, shots fired at both of us at
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: this point, Like it's ridiculous Dorchester Southie.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know that because Gino I just thought
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: about the Dale I think is where he grew up.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 8: Rossie. Yeah, I got ancestors from there.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: But has a good investors to do there from Ireland?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: You go, you don't even get me started. No, my
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: Irish ancestors set up shop and they're like twelve kids.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: But there's something harsh.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: Though to me about the North Shore version of the Boss,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: Like I know the south the one has that and
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: like it's almost familiar, like and I think there's so
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: many like whitey bulger things that like that's.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: You know, I think if you want to Shore, there's
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: not much.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 10: Strong all the way up to Lowell.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: That's all the way up to Lowell, that's strong.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Merrimack Valley. That's not North Sture. Okay, But
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: like if you go to like if you work your
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: way up, I mean, if you're like in Everett, Revere,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: that's not really North Shore to me. I mean it's
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: on Revere Beach is like Beverly, Yeah, and not getting
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: bost You might get something.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 10: Cousins, but they have some thicks.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: That's more of a blue collar town.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: You'll get it.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: Fisherman family, Marblehead, rock Port, Yes, newberry Port.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: You're not getting Boston accents.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: Rich. That's the North Shore.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 8: It's weird.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: It's supposed to be a study, like because some people
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: like I grew up here, I have no accent.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 8: I grew up in the suburbs.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: But you know, I don't know, it's just it's it's
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: strange how it kind of works out.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 9: I went to college and the friends I met from
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 9: Eastern mass that I had a New York accent, which
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 9: is really strange.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's approximate, but from the western
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Mast thing you can go either.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: That's like I just thought I didn't has New York
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: and Boston accents. It comes out a little bit when
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: you've had a few drinks.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 8: Oh that's my Boston accent.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden it's you know, there's
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: no yourself for me. No, you're just like say, you know,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: it's everything's wicked, no time for ours.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: A couple of drinks and yeah, you're like, no, fascinating.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: So it's nothing like when Fred is no interest in
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: the topic.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 10: Was impatiently waiting for anyway.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: Carrie writes in how adorable is Mike Reese? More of him? Please?
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: We just had Mike rees on, Thanks again for joining us.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: The best, yes, the pro of all pros.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: And you know, I just I said it before that
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: one of the things most remarkable to me is like,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: as things have shifted over the last few years and
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: the team wasn't as good, he continued the same level
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: of output and analysis and investment, and as you just
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: saw him talking about he was down.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: There at Rhode Island yesterday, you know, talking.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 10: About I wasn't.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, does he didn't go yesterday?
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: Oh he was, Yeah, he sort of scurried out right
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: after we shot. Usually we you know, we have like
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: a half hour forty five minute debris. Yeah, after shoot
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: and you know we got we got about fifteen minutes
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: and he's like, it's a providence.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I got it.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, No. That's the best part of it is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: that he always feels terrible for going to do something
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: more important than talking to you in that moment.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get back to the phone.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 11: I knew it.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm wrapping up.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: It's like I made him whatever, Todd. Todd's in North Carolina.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: What's up, Todd?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I want more micrees to that.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 13: He's a he's a great interview for you guys.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: That a little bit yep, good guys.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 12: So I would like to do some way way too
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 12: early little predictions for the season. Let's go, guys up
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 12: for that.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 13: Sure, Okay, let me start with number of games Drake
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 13: May plays.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 8: Seven.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: I was going to say in his career just this year.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: This year, I would say twelve.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, I like that. It's a pig number.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: Kobe, Yeah, I think seven eight is good for you guys.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: I agree with you guys.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 8: Right in the middle, okay, technically middle.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 12: Which receiver will have the best yak.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: Pop Douglas oh, I feel like we're forgetting about pop.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: Doug Douglas is probably a good one, and I'm going
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: to start I'm going to start reminding people that he exists.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: Javon Baker.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 12: Cool.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 13: How many times?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 12: Well, first of all, will Paul ever give you the nod?
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: This year?
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 12: And it's still how many times?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 15: No?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: No, no? Not free zone?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 11: All right?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: Thanks to it has been retired.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 10: Is like a like a Tommy point.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: That's when when no way, anyone's winning, no way.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: The Patriots went the other way in recent yeah, went
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: I never publicized the reverse nod.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: There have been a lot of them. Might be time
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: to retire had at.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 8: The nod and the shake. I got the shake this one.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: I used to be like four Patriots go up seven nothing,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: look over the game? Games over.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: I give Fred the knowing book.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: Let's see. Jordan writes in subject line Evan, I'm worried
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: he's from Hawaii. I'm excited. What's to worry about in Hawaii?
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: West Volcano worried about me? I don't worry. Let's trade.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: Let's find out. I'm excited about all of the new
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: toys the Patriots got for their offense in the draft
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: and elsewhere. This year brings a lot of excitement, new energy,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: I think to the team, But I also have a
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: big concern. AVP has already said that they're going to
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: be a running team. They will run the ball to
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: open up the play action down the field. Does that
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: mean they just need to move here and there or
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: they need big chunk runs because I'm worried that they
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: don't have the talent at running back to pick up
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: yards consistently. Andre had one good season. Other than that,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: he's been plagued with injuries and not productive behind a
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: bad line. Just want to know if I'm alone here,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: do you also have concerns with the old line or
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: running back room not being good enough to open up
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: those shots downfield?
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, everybody else, just shut your mics off, and
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: I would just say that to quell your your concerns.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: There is absolutely no statistical connection to rushing success and
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: play action success. Could not agree more they those two
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: things do not correlate. That teams that run the ball
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: well also play action well. Now, teams that dress up
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: play action well play action well. You know if you
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: show teams blocking schemes that look like your runs and
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: you marry it together to your runs, or you use
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: little indicators or formations or personnel groupings that typically lend
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: themselves to your run plays. That's when you really get
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: on play action. That's why teams like the Niners and
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: the Rams and all these teams are so good at
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: it because everything looks the same. It's it's in the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: first phase of the play you have you cannot tell
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: if it's a runner or pass, and then they just
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: hit you with the play action and then you're screwed.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my concern would be about just the desire to
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: run the ball first and foremost.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: That's my big concern, right because I don't want to
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: be a running team. I want to be in I know,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: I want to be a two thousand, you know, twenty
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: four NFL offense.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that what they're trying to do is
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: I just think that the concern that you have is
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: I guess maybe what the emailer is getting at is
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: they still I think lack high end talent on the
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball. Like, I'm excited about these
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: receivers as much as everybody, but I said the other
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: day on Twitter that, you know, the only miss to
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: me this offseason is Calvin Ridley and oh we don't
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: even need Ridley now. It's like you don't even know
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: if these guys can play, Like for all we know,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: Jalen Polk and Javon Baker is Aaron Dobson and Josh Boyce, Like,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: you know, how did that go? All right? I like, boys,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: you know how did that go?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 8: To me?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: To me, there's two times in the modern NFL where
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: running games is successful. When you got a guy who's.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: Just so good like your guy Derrick Henry.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or when you're when you're passing game is so
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: good that teams just you know, have to give up
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: the run at times because they have to focus and otherwise.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think, and you know, to whoever's point made,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anyone on this team right now
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: that's that good a runner that you know, you can
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: just run the ball and be successful.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: They might be fine running the ball, but if you
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: can't throw it effectively traditionally, not just like mirrors like
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: Kevin just talked about, you're dressing it up. I think
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: that Alex van Pelt probably knows how to do that,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: and they probably will hit some plays doing that this year.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: I know, that's that's his offense. I mean when when
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: Cleveland was looking really good late in the year with
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: Joe Flacco, he was hitting chunk play to David Najoku
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: off of those hard play actions. With Flacco, he has
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: the big arm to get the ball there, and I
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: think I could see that with Drake May. I could
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: absolutely see big plays. But if you can't throw it
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: consistently traditionally, you're not going to be a high powered offense.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. If you're just running and trying to
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: set up play action, it's not going to be good enough. Well,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: it's like you know with the forty nine ers, like
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: they run into this problem. It feels like every single year,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: especially late in the playoffs, where eventually it comes it
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: becomes a traditional drop back game and it's Jimmy garoppolover'sus
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes and the Super Bowl and who always wins,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: you know, the better drop back passers. So I understand
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: that that's my concern. But you know, with the running thing,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: I think you know the other way that you're good
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: running teams if your quarterback can run. Because now if
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: you're playing eleven on eleven and the quarterback's a factor
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 5: in all these rushing schemes. That's what Baltimore does, you know,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: that's what Eagles do. Like now you're in a different
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: element of run. That's really the teams other than teams
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: like San Francisco or just are really talented offensively. The
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: teams that are really good running teams and nowadays are Baltimore, Philly,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: you know, those types of teams.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: Where the quarterback is part of the running game.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: And San Francisco would be that example of a high
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: powered offense that does it that way absolutely well.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: That makes a good plaint San Francisco is but they're
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: so loaded.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: They're so loaded, like if you there, they their offense
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: is a problem for the defense, like you don't know
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: where it's coming on any down because they have weapons
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: everywhere on the field. That's where every offense wants to be,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: you know. That's that's the goal for every offense that
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: we can line up any way and do anything out
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: of any formation and it puts the defense on their heels.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: But you need talent to do that. You know, it's
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: hard to do. There was a time when the Patriots
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: were kind of like that, you know, back in the day.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: Oh god, yea offense like that.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: You know, we were talking about late bloomers, you know,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: people who started to go Yeah, the most interesting Pages
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: fan in the world. James Pettigrew says, wondering didn't take
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: a bit of time for Nate Soldier to come on.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 6: Well, he sat behind Matt light right dah, and then
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 6: he got kind of thrust in as a right tackle initially.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one of those guys that played some right tackle.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're talking about being really good, I'm
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: not sure he like I think he was kind of
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: an average tackle, so might you know, but he played
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: pretty quick.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 6: Bruski I couldn't speak to this maybe you guys cause
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 6: but Bruskie seems like he was a guy.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He he couldn't cover at first, and I remember
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: Parcels talking about it that we need to get him
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: in coverage.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: The thing with him was it was such a dramatic
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: position change. You're going from a defensive tackle to a linebacker.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was an interior pass he makes that movie.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: He had the n cua A sack record, you know, that's.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 11: What he did.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: And he was basically just a special teams player early
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: in his career and then he yeah, I remember, he.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: Mike.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know, but I remember when
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: I talked to Teddy once he talked about he never
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: really felt like a true linebacker until he picked off
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: a pass against Detroit on Thanksgiving in two thousand and two.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a sixty year yeah wow.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it took him a while, but paid off progress.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: What is it patience? Progress? Payoff or I don't pay
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: off the end?
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 10: Progress is in there somewhere.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: This is your this is your slant progress.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 10: There's no word art in.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: My home, all right, Jonah says, And this one's kind
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: of a reach. I don't know if anyone remembers, but
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase was dropping balls in his rookie preseason because
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: he claimed the NFL balls were bigger.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah that lasted like maybe a week.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: But that doesn't qualify as being a bus.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: Or even people thinking he might be right.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah right, but I do.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: I actually do remember there being some talk about that
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: that him can play. We'll not complaining, but just saying
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: I have to get used to the I.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 6: Always wonderful that no one ever talks about that, like
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 6: doing the quarterbacks, like it's all of a sudden, the
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 6: ball is bigger.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 8: How much of a change.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: It's longer, Yeah, tell me more about it, Paul, What
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 6: about it?
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: Duke is longer.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: College ball was shorter and fatter, the girth of the ball.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: All I could think about was Mike when I started
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: picking up.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: Plus it has the stripe on the tip in college.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: And they started implanting micro chips in it, so you
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 6: know exactly where it goes and when and how fast.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 8: And it's pretty impressive.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 6: Can I say, I'm going to be laughing for the
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 6: rest of the foreseeable future thinking about them having Creighton
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: barrel whiney like those kind of signs up, like those
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 6: like oh I.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: Hate when you know, like I don't want to. I
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: don't want to those in their houses I just can't stand.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: Or like college girls in their dorm room. Hang in there, Kitty,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: the little kiddy hanging on the branch.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: There's a good how many college.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 8: Hang in there? What does that mean?
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 11: I have to say.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 15: Him?
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say something sitting on the sitting on
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 6: the bump bed with his feet hanging off.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: Never hung out in the all girls dorms in college.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 8: He went to be you was like fights out there everybody.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: They were just kind of Tampa. We had. There were
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: a couple of all girls and then all boys, and
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: then everything else was.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 8: Holy crossed the girls holy Cross.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 6: The girls scores were locked and so you used to
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: have to like I was gonna say, then, the poor
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: two girls who like had the dorm closest to the
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 6: door had to always come and like the boyfriend.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: And I was gonna say, holy Cross. Right, you're not
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: allowed to like stay anywhere I was there. I'm only kidding.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: I think that's Notre Dame though, that is like that. Yeah,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: Notre Dame is like you are not allowed to have
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: female or male visitors to be by you.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, differences definitely the drink there.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't have any of those rules that.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 11: No.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: I can attest a couple of prescriptions later.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: No, okay, uh, Jeff in Canada, I gave the draft
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: process an a. I say the process because that's all
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: weak and great right now, we can't great players who've
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: never played a snap in the league. But at the
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: end of the day, every football fan knew their needs
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: and they took swings at all of those positions. I
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: didn't hear your positions yet, your opinions yet unless it
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: was in the first half of the show. On the
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: tight end for fsu Bell, I've heard he could be
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: a steal, but he's a seventh rounder, so who knows well,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: both Mike Reese and Evan.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 8: Concur you just see me.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the the process I think is,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: I think you're only looking at the positions that they.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 5: Picked as opposed to how they did it.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: Like, I think there's some questions as to how they.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 6: Did me too, And that's why I couldn't say, like, oh,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: you know, if you had to do the stupid thing
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 6: and give a grade. I mean, I think the only
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: thing you're really great is how well did you hit
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 6: the needs? And I think they did hit the needs.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: But I you know, I think it probably could have
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: been a little bit better with the left tackle need.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: And I think they could have moved a little bit
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: or changed the order slightly and maybe better maximize the Yeah.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 6: If they but if they've gone like cornerback, you know,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: guard safety, I mean, that's an.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: Af you know who I would I'd like to ask
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: Elliott to ask his father who he thinks was the
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: best draft day negotiator over the phone that he's ever dealt.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: With in terms of picks.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, ask your daddy.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: I'll bet you that there's people out there that are
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: better than others. Like you get him on the phone,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: you just couldn't say no, he was he was the best,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: you know, so fast, you know, before you knew it,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: you've given up a first round pick. Yeah.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that in terms of you know, you
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: talk people that you know, we've been talking to now
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: after the draft and things like that, a lot of
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: people will say that the league had Jalen Polk higher
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 5: than the media did. And now this type of stuff
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: comes out every year a player gets slightly over drafted
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: and all of a sudden there's this media campaign about
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: how the league was higher on him than than the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: media was. But that was one of them that I
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: felt like that. And with Jaheane Bell, I was just
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: talking to Jim Nagy, the Senior Bowl director for all
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 5: of our profiles on these guys, and he said point
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: blank that Jahan Bell is going to make a fifty
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: three man roster.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, of course he was any But.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: I have to I have to agree with him though,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 5: And I agree with what Mike Rees said to us
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: earlier to a t there's a clear role in path
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: for him to make the roster. It's not like we're
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: talking about him beating out, you know, a bunch of
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: receivers or something like that out of nowhere. But there's
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 5: a clear role projection for him as this move explosive
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: tight end when they have some veteran guys that aren't
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: exactly in.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: And that's why I always get into like I don't
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: really necessarily care, like a lot of people will do
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: the evaluation, Well, that's a great draft. They drafted eight
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: guys and all eight of them made the roster. The
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 4: Pete Carroll Patriots were famous with this with Bobby Greer.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: Do you remember how many linemen they used to draft
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: that couldn't that couldn't play at all, Fred Damien Denson,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: Scott Rayberg's got ray but they all made the roster
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: every year.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: What are draft? Scott? What a draft?
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: These guys couldn't play a monster.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: He was like sixth eight and back in the day
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: on the plane they had the TVs that would hang
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: from the ceiling. Every trip he'd hit his head. It's like,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: don't you learn after the first time that you have
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: to do every trip? He'd hit his that on that.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: Side, but they would have like their fifth, sixth, seventh
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: round picks, they would make the team, and everybody'd be like,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: what a great draft. You know, great drafts with like
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 4: Chris Canty and Brandon Mitchell, you know at the top
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: of the.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 11: Like great draft.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: These guys can't play just because So if if Jahem
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: Bell got drafted by a team that had really good
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: tight end depth and he didn't make the team, it's
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: not any better or worse pick than it is. As
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: Evan said, if he has more of an opportunity to
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: actually make the team here, can he play, Like we'll
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: find that out.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: He could play in Florida State. It's going to translate.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: But it's funny because we did. We had that was
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: one of our questions, like the draft pick that you
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: liked the best, and we both thought we both wanted
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: to say, Belle, you know, after this is after not
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: including Drake May. Yeah, it's kind of like best Patriot
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: of all time, you know, non Tom Brady, non Tom
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: Brady category. We wanted to have our listen, you can
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: keep trying.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: I actually have something to say about Joe. I have
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 5: something to say about Joe Milton.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: Too, but we both we both wanted Belle, and I said,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: you talk about Belle, and I ended up taking Baker
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: just as as my pick because I didn't. I didn't lie,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: but I did. I do like Baker as a pick,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: but I like it. I like the athleticism of the
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: tight end. You know, I do think there's a chance
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: they take advantage and.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: Scrap, I'm not gonna lie. Scrap was like he made me.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 11: He got a dog.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: He can run the scene like there's no doubt about that.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: And he can catch the ball. He can catch and
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: run with it. And if you look at what Drake
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: made does well in terms of throwing the middle of
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: the field. If you have a four to six tight
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: end that can split the seam, you know, this is
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: one of those guys that can do that. And Drake
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: make and throw that past.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: All day, four six tight end, bigger guy than that might.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: But the thing I was going to tell you about
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: about Joe Millton our favorite six round pick, is that
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: uh Naggy again mentioned that down at the Senior Bowl,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 5: they have an award that they give out every year
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: for everybody's favorite guy at the Senior Bowl. It's the
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: good guy Award of the Senior Bowl, and it just
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: so happened that the good guy of the twenty twenty
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: four Senior Bowl was won Joe Milton.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: So I had somebody in my office yesterday who not
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: from the South, but who sometimes likes to talk with
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: an acid. Now, now he had a pretty good year
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: kindnesse last year. You know.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: Okay, Now we didn't the just on the Milton thing,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: and I know that you guys don't like busting on,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: which is fine that I deserve it. This is not
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: about what I think of Joe Milton, as much as
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: would ensue after that, Like I don't we Fred and
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: I have disagreed on our evaluations of different elements and
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: players for twenty plus years. This is not about that
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: he didn't agree with my viewpoints on Joe Milton. I'll
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: just drop it there and leave it.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: We both agree on a lot of things, and we
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: both disagree on a lot of things.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 6: Since the show's running out and it'll cut off, and like,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 6: the question in my mind though with Milton is just like,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 6: what's the best case scenario.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: For the Patriots with him?
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: What is the best I I told you in the
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: last show that it's obvious to him that he can't
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: play quarterback.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: That's the best case.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: They have a conversation with him, why don't you give
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: something else to try, like tight end, and then that's it.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: I feel like the best case scenario for the Patriots
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: is that if he needs to be Kirk Cousins, and
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: he's Kirk, he puts it all together, it'd be the
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: best case.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 6: YEA, not a great case scenario because that means Drake
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: may got hurt though, right, but that's.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: The whole idea of the insurance policy.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: But even if he just develops no, no, and that's
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: where my head and all of a sudden, you look like,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: this guy's a much better pro quarterback than he was
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: in college.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 8: Let's let's flip them.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: After being in college for so long that the Mike
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks Mike was his college teammate, Yeah, Mike on when
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: he was going into your five in the NFL, if
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: they played together.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: If you're a Joe Milton fan, a real fan, yeah, Joshua,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: you should be. You should be rooting for Jacoby Brissette
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: to get hurt.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, hurt?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 11: Why?
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: I think acause right now I am rooting for people
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: to get hurt because well, no, but Joe Milton, he's
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: buried in the depth chart. He's not even the he's
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: not the backup. He's not the backup.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: He's not now, he's not even three.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: He may not even see time in preseason.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: Oh he will?
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: What else? What else? You have two quarterbacks they need
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 3: to get ready before him.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: Jacoby does need to get ready. He just played in
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: this offense two years ago.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: They need to see what they've got.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 4: And I don't think you're going to see a tremendous
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: amount of Jocoby what.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: No, Joe Milton is the fourth quarter of preseasons. Joe
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: Milton's time to shine, baby, that's his time.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I could be wrong, but I feel like everybody
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: in this offense, it's starting from square.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: I think he'll play, but I don't think he's going
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: to play a ton.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 8: Oh, I got a great idea.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe we could get Joe Milton to throw
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 6: Patriots on Filter T shirts to people at training. Kid,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: you know, like up on that, like you know when
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 6: there it go. You know, we don't need to get
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  Speaker 6: that thousand dollars T shirt. Cannona been looking forward to
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  Speaker 6: Joe Milton. Give him some oranges, give him.
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  Speaker 8: Some some T shirts.
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  Speaker 5: And I was watching his tape the other day. The
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: power in his arm is it's truly power.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: Sleep better than Drake Man.
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  Speaker 5: Like not even just in terms of it's not just
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  Speaker 5: that he throws the deep ball.
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  Speaker 3: It's already started.
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  Speaker 5: It's not even just that he throws the deep ball
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  Speaker 5: far though, Like that's one thing, Like, Okay, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he Arcus Russell to.
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  Speaker 8: A frozen rope.
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  Speaker 5: Now it might be ten yards over the guy's head,
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  Speaker 5: but it was hard. And I think that that's the
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  Speaker 5: one thing that just with both these guys. For so long,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 5: in the last five years or so, the Patriots have
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: been in this situation with quarterback where they couldn't access
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  Speaker 5: all the parts of the field because the quarterback just
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: didn't have the arm for it. So basically like everything
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: outside the numbers and the deep middle of the field
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 5: were just like off limits, Like we're not even gonna three,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: We're not even gonna draw plays for these areas of
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 5: the field. Now they have two guys that, like you
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: just have to hope they keep it on the field,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: you know, Like they have such arm talent that now
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, every blade of grass is accessible.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm interested in, just because people excited.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: That's what gets me excited about it. Is like you
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 5: can really see that, you know, Drake May, Joe Millon, whoever,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: those guys, you know, there's no longer oh, we can
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: just fall asleep on this play defensively because you know
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: he's rolling to his right and there's no way he's
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 5: gonna flick it back to No, these guys can flick
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: it back to the left like they they can go
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: forty yards in the op is a direction just five.
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  Speaker 8: That's that's what I'm interested in.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 6: Is I have a sense of Bailey Zappy already having
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 6: watched him, and so just to see the comparison between
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 6: what we've seen in his arm, which is admittedly, you know,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 6: fairly average to below average, but you know, is it
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 6: that noticeable right from the get go, Drake Man.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: And by the way, you gotta move Bailey Zappy right,
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: he can't be on the roster probably.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: Final roster, probably Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think he
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: might have like a teen c weensy bit of value.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: You think he's got a market in August, like if
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: some quarterback gets hurt and they need a backup.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: If and if that's the case, then Joe Milton's even
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: further down the depth Shart.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, wait till you see this arm though, Fred.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, I believe the arm. I believe the arm. A
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: head is the other thing I've heard jack In and
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: Arbor talking about late bloomers. Rob Ninkovich late bloomer.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that's a good I mean,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 6: that's gonna be draft Yeah, but yeah, we didn't draft them.
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  Speaker 8: That's why he probably didn't.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean a guy that came here as a
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 6: long snapper in like the second or third week of August.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 6: You know, I like rabel Now he was, he was,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: he was scratching the surface with it.
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  Speaker 4: Really good player for Pittsburgh, became a really good player
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 4: in New England.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Second round, but I mean I believe it was the
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 4: second round pick out of Ohio State.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 6: Like that's but Ninkovich is story one of my favorites
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 6: of you know, especially because that time it was, you know,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 6: this was the defensive turnover. I mean, Ninkovitch was that
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 6: diamond in the rough that they were able to uncover
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 6: that you know, made them able to overcome the losses
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 6: of you know, the Seymour's and you know and McGuinness
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 6: and the very bad.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking more of players the Patriots trapp.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you kind of wrote too much hung
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 6: around I mean Edelman to some extent, but I think
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 6: he could be one of those I.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 10: Was going to say him, but I feel like in
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 10: order to be a bus you have to be like hyped.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's probably yeah, too hard to say. The
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: seventh round pick, right, the.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: Guy that had expectations, he was happy to be there,
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: then came back and yeah, it's hard to come up
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: with those guys. All right, that's going to be it
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. I hope everyone has
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: a good weekend. I think we've talked about everything we
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: need to talk about. The Brady tickets are sold out.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 5: But did you talk about Joey Sly No, Well, a
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: little bit kicker, he kicks the ball.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll see you next Tuesday.
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