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POISONRANA LIVE 7/6/2025: ALL IN Texas Preview / WWE NOC and more! · Poisonrana

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[SPEAKER_01]: Poison Rana
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to bring a whole AEW all in Texas Preview plus we're going to chat about everything going on in the world of
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[SPEAKER_01]: this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So appreciate you checking us out here today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't chatted for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, because we were celebrating Canada Day and just had a lot going on in the last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So first of all, thank you very much to be Detroit and John Cena for holding down the four running this ship on Tuesday with up next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still to catch up on NXT.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping to find time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got to
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[SPEAKER_00]: a long movie, I've got to watch this week, but yes, I thank you very much guys, I'm looking forward to hearing that review once I do catch up on a little bit of NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am the same way, I took you know, you had some stuff going on this weekend and so did I, Canada Day, happy Fourth of July, that is past, Canada Day, all that kind of stuff
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we decided to take a little vacation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we are taking a vacation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Literally this week as we traveled down to the big D for some wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you had, you had your girlfriend visiting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to spend some time with my family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we decided to take a little time off and enjoy the, enjoy the candidate day festivities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, shout out what up next, though, from Sino Evil and be Detroit as always.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we will be back this Tuesday night on post wrestling to give a go home show to
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[SPEAKER_01]: a show I guess is happening next Saturday as we might talk a little bit about but I feel I feel dirty I feel wrong I haven't watched NXT this week and I like I'm a little bit of a complete as I guess because I can't go into next week just by listening to be in scene I got to watch it then let me know them and then do a show so
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think even when NXT was maybe at its lowest point, we've watched every fucking episode of this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that's not enough, we also go back and rewatch all of the entire page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be caught up by Tuesday night one way or the other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: NXT friends, not just a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We live the gimmick, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we will be back this Tuesday and we'll talk all about NXT and great American Bash, which I think, again, is a show that's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: next week, but I get that there's some housekeeping right there we will not be doing a great american bash show so this Tuesday will be talking about the the go home show for great american bash but the following Tuesday night you can catch us live after NXT and I think we'll run down great american bash
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[SPEAKER_01]: in a little quick little show before we jump into the NXT of that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's some little housekeeping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So join us the next two Tuesdays over on post wrestling because we'll be chatting all about some NXT.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, wrestling promoters, they're a fifty-two weeks in the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need to be running five events on the same two days of the week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just give us a break, come on, please.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to watch all these shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually like wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy watching both AEW and WWE.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes through waves, but I do do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: come on just put it on the next week put it on the week after that like spread these out and like I think we'll get into it with uh uh evolution preview later in the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this time uh WWE have just shot themselves in the foot like running this weekend um yeah I look in that way what was what was trending on on social media at least on Twitter was hashtag what is WrestleTix hiding oh
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're frozen, great picture though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is WrestleTicks hiding?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've lost Brandon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is WrestleTicks hiding on during the chat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so evolution for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been seeing reports this week that some of the women roster are pretty disappointed with the way evolution's been handled this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is going up against
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all in weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going up against that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's I believe Beyonce's playing the same the same day in the same area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So ticket sales being bad because, you know, all the hotels have been booked up by Beyonce fans and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's a shame and we did just do a little plug.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did record our review of the original evolution from twenty eighteen earlier this week and we were kind of saying this feels a bit of an after thought evolution which really shouldn't be at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was having some Wi-Fi issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was disconnecting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I feel for both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the counter programming now, it feels like, oh, why did you do that kind of thing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there is some interest in the other product.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of interest in the other product this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're now your kind of making fans choose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of fans are like you and me who are like, hey, I just enjoy everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can critique everything the same way we choose to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's some people that are just like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, Pittsburgh's ready and I think there was there was a lot of like people thinking that WWE booking this weekend with all these different shows was totally like trying to counter, like counter program and try to block all the not even just like hey we're doing the same show but like social media the way that all in would get talked about on social media they they want to show the exact same time so that they're not just like
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[SPEAKER_01]: left out in the wings, I guess, kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is interesting that, like, as of right now, this is a week out from Saturday night's main event and NXT and evolution.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, people on the other side always like to look at, oh, AWS only got like three thousand people or two thousand people, whereas finally now the kind of the shoes on the other foot, because now everyone's looking at the WWE tickets for next week, and it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: not looking too great for WWE and you mentioned the Beyonce thing with having that across the street from that venue like that's just wrong really so it's almost like WWE set the women up to fail this Sunday but you know what I bet these women on an evolution are gonna knock it out the park
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[SPEAKER_01]: they're gonna have that ship on their shoulder that it doesn't matter if there's five thousand three thousand whatever thousand people in that arena they're gonna they're gonna kick ass and I really think that'll be the WWE show of the weekend one hundred percent so and I do think no matter what I don't you know I don't care as long as the crowd is hot doesn't matter to me if there's two thousand people read thousand ten thousand if the crowd is into it and want to be there and the show is good that's what makes it good you know when I buy an album I guess I don't do that anymore
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I stream a new album that I love so much, do I care that it has like five million streams or one million streams?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not fucking really because I just care that I like it and I enjoy it and it's entertainment to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope that weekend all the shows kick ass and everything I really do because I'm just a wrestling fan and we're gonna be like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: amidst travel and coming back home on the Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know we're going to be probably on a on a plane or a bus trying to be like, actually, we trying to watch this in this night because this, this, this how we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But wouldn't have been so much better if it was a weekend after where we're like, wow, this weekend, we can get ready to not spend time with my friends a second time to watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't get the mentality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if it is, you know, if the attitude is, look, we want to hurt the, the competition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to draw eyes away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when you put everything you have into building up these shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'd say probably the biggest match to the weekend is what Goldberg Gunther, but sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's arguably a ball, but like that's I'd say one of the big marquee match to the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really had very little build over the last few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had a couple of sit down interviews and that's about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel like a real
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[SPEAKER_00]: pop match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Evolution, as Chris Jones says in the chat, goes, I won't be watching Evolution two and SNME apart from the Goldberg match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's too much wrestling and I've given the women show the attention that set up deserves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the thing, like this date, they could have made this feel like an absolute super card and been building it up for weeks and actually give that dilemma to fans of all, which one am I seeing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you are an AEW fan,
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way you're watching any of these other shows over all in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a WWE to program a ring of honor show when WrestleMania is happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like as much as you like a WWE, you're going to watch WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the biggest show and all in the biggest show with the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you are just a Fed fan who doesn't like AEW, of course you're going to watch WWE programming, but I don't think it's working as taking eyes away from AEW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it's a soft thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I totally wouldn't be able to build this lack plus to build all three shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's what, why even bother?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why even bother trying to counter program if this is what you're doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't like, you know, NXT show where it's like, yeah, we're counter programming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And next week we've got the Undertaker, we've got John Cena, we've got Cody Rhodes, we've got all of these guys, and it's like, okay, they're throwing everything they've got at this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet I feel bad for the women because I hope this doesn't, they go, oh, well, the women control because look at this attendance and that because it's really not their fault and the women have been the best thing about WWE quite a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they deserve so much more than this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The women have been absolutely killing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like NXT gets all the women's best women's roster praise, but like WWE, all the stars that are on top, your eos, your reeds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They came through NXT, like originally, but the women have been killing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is just like really you booked it off a backpacking weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was alternate programming that is also now we learn as a cross-the-street from a stadium Beyonce show at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, not saying that like the same
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[SPEAKER_01]: people might not be going to be on sale and in a bit of it, but it's an all women show and like the women want to support the women, but you know, but it's just like logistics, you know, we've seen just going to the these arena shows and stating shows how
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[SPEAKER_00]: bad transport can be how high Uber charges are and that kind of thing hotels anyone who's not living in Atlanta and are coming to see the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My all these hotels have been booked up for Beyonce who's running a stadium right so it's it's all those things it's not necessarily saying you know wrestling fans and Beyonce fans are the same but it it does affect things just logistically and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Beyonce is definitely going to play the song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The same text is because it won't be in Atlanta this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, I'm really hoping evolution knocks it out the park because like you said, we just reviewed the original, a thousand eighteen show shout out our patreon, check us out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were praising like, hey, this is this took too long, even a thousand eight took too long to get an all-women's show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it took too long between to get to this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then now that we get there,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, man, shouldn't this be treated like a whole lot bigger?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it kind of isn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about the card maybe in a little bit when we go through some WWE because the card has some good stuff that definitely... God doesn't look good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, God like the build has not been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's this card feels like what people accuse Tony Khan of doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just throwing two names putting him on a graphic and being like, this will be a good match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of how this God feels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just like WWE the interest for me is as big and popular as the machine as it seems to be right now because you can't avoid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see people wearing t-shirts everywhere again and everything like it just feels super hot and super popular but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been feeling like it hasn't been hitting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to I was watching Ron smack down and just trying to like okay, let's let's see what they're promoting for this like Saturday night's main event in evolution and it
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't really feel like they were promoting a whole lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of almost felt like, is there a show?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we will get into those reviews later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel there's... There're doing some nice things with like, longer-term storytelling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, they're setting things up, which is probably going to be SmackDown and Beyond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but for the immediate like three shows happening this weekend absolutely not and I do think I do think we're seeing the dip in WWE now it's it's not as popular as it was a year ago whatever you whatever you say about the success of this WrestleMania this year it's not as hot as it was a year ago and and I think there's some things that are
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[SPEAKER_00]: turning off fans, turning off people like myself, like I'm often a bit of a WWE defender on here, but there's been a series of things that have just made me feel kind of itky at this year, this time round, and it's making me lose interest, it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: that they're telling you on TV pretty much all the time like we're a money machine we're money we've made this much money we've made this much money and everything just fills so much more produced than ever and it's it's feeling a lot more a bit like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wednesdays, it's getting there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm certainly not interested in the product anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, just a few months ago, I was saying that about A, W, and I think A, W have really, really picked up with this all in build.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've gone about since completely correctly with this build to this show, making it feel like the biggest show of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They complete like we went to we went to the first Wembley all in which now has been been promoted for twenty six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is coming back to Wembley next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shoutout Cole play all play in all ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This book in too many Wembley shows Tony Khan was like, I can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to go to Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were kind of like going to the show all hype, but we're like, yo, this build is kind of even the card was like, I was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this time around it's like, whoa, they're finally treating this like this is their super bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is their WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they've done a really good job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we kind of booked this on a whim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just being like, ah, fuck it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're missing each other's birthdays this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, ah, this was before all that was announced for Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, ah, we just
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[SPEAKER_01]: sneak in a little weekend and I'm really happy that way out because now not only I'm like I want to watch this show so badly but now we're going and I'm like this is great I want to watch this so bad and they've done a fantastic job in some of the stories leading up to it and you know all these months of how bad the death writers was it's finally hopefully knock on wood it's gonna come to an end we're gonna get we're gonna go through a preview and everything I swear but again if you are going down to the big D next week for
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[SPEAKER_01]: all in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be in the city, so please DMs are always up and at Poisoner on the pie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know, A, W has announced they're doing like a tailgate party and a post party, which means only good things could happen in that fucking main event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't do a, you wouldn't do a big party of moxley just for tains, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it will be at that live venue, which is like a cross history, which looks at the only
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[SPEAKER_01]: bar in that whole little area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we will be there some way, shape, or form on the Saturday before the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, let us know if you're making your way out because I have gotten a few DMs today saying like, oh, I'm going to be heading, I want to try to say hi to everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So get your cowboy hats, get your assless chaps and meet us on down in Dallas because the BDE does Dallas this weekend and we're very excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And any post marks any poison around the friends out there, please reach out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd love to see you if we can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Little bit of housekeeping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As we did mention, we did just release our review of the original evolution paper view on our Patreon.com slash poison rana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have so many shows for you to enjoy there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as we are going to Dallas, we put it up to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The people
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[SPEAKER_00]: What you'd like us to review this week being Texas related and we had a few things there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the Bonnie and Clyde movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a JFK documentary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the Oliver Stone JFK movie Dallas fires club and I think there was someone else on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Debbie does Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did we put that in there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have voted for the Oliver Stone movie, JFK, a film, neither, Braden and I have ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We threw this up before realizing it's three and a half hour movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's all three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's all three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was only three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was the director's cart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I listed or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, so we're going to be reviewing that this week kind of going into some of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the conspiracies around the assassination of uh... the former president i want all of it i want all the conspiracies i'm not saying right now in the youtube chat but i will be putting up a feedback thread maybe tonight uh... sunday night monday morning or whatever and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want anyone who's anyone to go ask your dad, go ask your crazy uncle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want all the conspiracy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Send me the YouTube videos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm putting my tinfoil hat on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm wearing my cowboy hat right now, but I'm putting my tinfoil hat on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to hear all the grassy knowle all that shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our hotel is literally booked for like five minutes walk from this whole JFK thing in Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've never been and I want to go, but I've been watching documentaries and I'm ready to watch this movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be a whole JFK conspiracy podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to honestly please if you're like, I wonder if they know send it to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to write them down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go through all of them in this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a show coming out on a podcast on a Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: follow up patreon this is going to be a great week because not only do you get that show not only do you get uh... the w evolution show that we just did but we're going to be doing some some live uh... on the spot recordings that will be uploading a little bit of a road diaries if you have checked out a patreon before you may know that we like to do these snap ran as and we're going to be doing that we might record one on the grassy knowle so
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know that there is there is an X in the middle of the street.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's an X at the window where Lee Harvey Oswald apparently, uh, allegedly, allegedly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll we'll record something standing right there going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that logistically make sense that this have happened?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, follow up, follow up, row diaries throughout our trip away, wrestling and non- Wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I think what we're going to try to do is record a post show, not live on YouTube, but some way, shape, or form next Saturday in an Uber, we're going to try to record
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think we should start
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[SPEAKER_01]: right now by talking about some wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think usually we jump into WWE, but I think maybe we should flip things around and go through our big preview for Texas this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, show we start with the kind of the big matches and walk away down with this, do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's go through like the card and then kind of dissect of I just finished watching collision three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, collision one hundred from last night and dynamite three hundred and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go through the card and then talk about the segments from this week's Dynamite and Collision, that's relevant to each match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, starting with the big one, the main event, John Moxley defending his briefcase.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a huge world championship against Hangman Adam Page in what was now announced on Wednesday's Dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be
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[SPEAKER_01]: a Texas death map Texas death yeah I mean we were we were calling for this we really loved the last time these two guys did the Texas death I mean anytime hangman it seems to be a little bit of his his gimmick match is like hot
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[SPEAKER_01]: This, this, this needed this, like the whole storyline of the death writers, it got off to a bad start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then over time, I think maybe people softened up because it's like, well, wait, give it a chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like WWE when Randy Orton was championed for half a year because you wanted to have that big moment of, you know, someone winning the title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of what their, the blueprint kind of is here where for months, this guy's been holding the title hostage literally and now finally the main character
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[SPEAKER_01]: Adam Page is gonna take the title back for himself for retribution and forth the people and I think adding Texas death is perfect like how could you how could these guys go out there and just have a normal wrestling match?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that was anyone was expecting so I'm loving so
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you know there's going to be all the bullshit, all the experiences and stuff, it just makes it just make it legal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a kind of like bloodline rules, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a way of saying, anything goes, you're going to have shenanigans, stuff's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're getting the Cody Rhodes Roman Reigns bloodline rules where
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have Wheeler Euda in that fucking dog haircut beard combo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have Claudio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have the Death Riders Marina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have Willow coming out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have everyone fighting each other and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: Darby Allen gonna come out the lights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael out maybe sting shows up maybe Brian Danielson shows up like who you're who knows right like Eddie Kingston he could show up like there's a game kid Eddie Kingston that could tie it like there's so many different things that you could bells and whistles that could pop off and I think the big one will be swerve
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[SPEAKER_01]: having to choose, do I help hangman win the title?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately deciding yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then hangman winning and making that some big special feel good moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I expect a lot of blood in this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I expect blood sweat and tears by the end of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm really looking forward to this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Texas death is exactly what we needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it was the only thing that was kind of bugging me with this whole story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they announced it the way they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and hangman, did you recognize the shirt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been re-wearing some shirts lately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you, you, you have all people, David.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would appreciate this because you're a man of the shirts as of my sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has been reusing shirts that he has worn in specific segments and promos in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Moxley and their promo segment brought up best wrestler in the world is some bullshit or something like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, kind of throwing some shade at CM Punk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When Hangman is wearing the shirt that he wore in a promo segment with CM Punk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A few weeks earlier, Hangman was wearing a shirt that he wore when he like, I think first won the title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been wearing certain cowboy aesthetic shirts that have been matching maybe the vibes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as some people's heroes, CM Punk
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[SPEAKER_01]: came out dressed as John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman's wearing a shirt that was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was this week he wore that on the same episode where John Moxley says, like, calling itself basic, that's the world is basic, bitch shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So really these two are just like, you'll fuck that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm loving this Texas death and now the cherry on top is there's going to be a reason a rhyme and reason to let the you know death writers come in staying Garvey all these like run-ins and things that we really do expect but in the best way possible so the Texas death is like the the chef's kiss the cherry on top
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[SPEAKER_00]: there's only one tiny nitpick I had and we'll kind of break down the segment a little bit because I thought the whole segment was awesome with with high-man kind of goading him into it stealing the briefcase yeah taking out marina which obviously there's been some controversy about that oh fuck off I thought it worked for this you know marina's been so physical with the men like throughout this entire run and it
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[SPEAKER_00]: It deserved it, like it deserved this moment, I think, and it just made Hangman see me even more of a badass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think especially when you know Hangman's character who's pretty liberal and, you know, women's rights and all that, it's like, for that sort of character to do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it kind of...
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[SPEAKER_00]: worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was warranted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my tiniest nitpick is when moxley's going like, there's no way you can beat me in this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just, why didn't they bring up that they've had this match before?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How am I just, well, I've beaten, I beat you in it last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I just found it odd that, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that both these characters and commentary just didn't really bring up that they have had a and therefore I'm like are you just trying to like red and black like mind-a-raise this triple age undertaker WrestleMania yeah we're gonna fight a WrestleMania but we never did before yeah even though we did it's similar thing yeah I got that too they were they was like right there like you're waiting for hangman to say it
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he just didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I'm going to pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pick a match that is my speciality that you didn't beat me out if you want to prove that you're the champ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're going to beat me in Texas death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know, just the tiniest in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the segment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that they're going this way, but man, I that first Texas death match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people
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[SPEAKER_00]: remember to swap match more because it happened like later in the year when we when we did a rend of year review like thing kind of loving I think I preferred the moxley high man watch we're gonna have a lot of blood Texas is going to be a it's going to be a Texas death massacre down in Arlington because like yeah they use the fork in the last one the barbed wire beds we're getting all the tarry funk shoutouts
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[SPEAKER_01]: in this match as well so i'm i'm extremely looking forward to do we bring the branding iron down the text is out of it would they let us in with that to give it to give it to hangar to use tarry funks actual branding ira please use this yeah in the match i'm like honestly like this match alone is like now i'm so so sold on it we we're we've always been very high on hangman since before eight of you even existed we were like man some but we like this guy some about him and to see him
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[SPEAKER_01]: really go into his own and obviously people will go all the same punk stuff in this and that and I'm sure that that way is really heavy on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure deep down like that's got to you know people always he deleted his quitter for a reason because he was like probably getting barbed in stuff but to kind of see it turn around and the same stuff with the death writers like
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of, everyone should on it in the last little while, but as someone in the chat, Chris and the chat saying, whisper it, the death rioters has quietly gotten good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yes and no, because it's been bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like John Cena saying he's going to ruin wrestling because he has been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of what the death rioters were killing a W. And then we slowly started to see the bigger picture where it's like, OK, well, we needed to, to go through hell to get to heaven, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I've seen a lot of people saying the death rioters have gotten good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if much has changed with their presentation or what their MO is or whatever, but I just think because they built up the baby face in Hangman in such a great way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And because I think finally we believe that it's coming to an end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am more invested than I was before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, most of these never been a bad promo and stuff and there's stuff he's been saying that's been good, I just think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's difficult, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to go through for it to feel more cathartic when the wind happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need it to go a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need a bit of array in a terror, but you sacrifice moments during that time as well.
33:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't think Edge was a great opponent, and I think that was a low point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I enjoyed, we were there for the Orange Casti match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed the match, but no one was buying Orange Casti beating him at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think then,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The idea I think was for Derby to probably win it after Everest and obviously he still hasn't come back yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we knew our man were going to get a few more months for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas now because I think we're in the final stretch, we're at the finish line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: were able to enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it's not a certain that Hangman's winning this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris, you know, I think the mostly retains and the Texas DEST dip will help keep Hangman's strong and give him an out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you do have to win it here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he has to win it, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes a whole other sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hangman is your AEW guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know they were trying to position, you know, Derby as that person, but he went away and I think Hangman makes the most sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can then move forward to a fresh direction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be surprised if Mox disappears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: white a while, go on that vacation, do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go fishing.
34:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think we've got like a clear direction for the next big few, just probably MJF Hangman page, which has been teased in this whole build-up in the build-up to the Owen even.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it has been teased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, MJF could win the chip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cash in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the gauntlet's not a chip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the revolution ladder match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, wait a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did Christian win?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won the gun last year, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had a bunch of completely right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're completely right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So MJF can basically cash in whatever he wants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he could cash in at the end of all in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see that happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could tease it at least, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could tease it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think we would go in that direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be the right way to get MJF the heel to like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, cash in and and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Megan in the chat show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Christian, the shot is shot and lost.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So you could do that and that's a heel way to have hangments rain come to an end eventually when you when you go to that.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going we're both going with hanger win in this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that makes the most sense, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, that's a pretty big deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Swerve being someone to help him is going to be a big part of the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a big crowd reaction ultimately would be like, whoa, Swerve is
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[SPEAKER_01]: helping him kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So really looking forward to this is a solid main event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think a few months ago people were like, oh, where they go with Osprey and stuff, but like big show, Texas, hangman, cowboy, Texas death, I'm so let's do it.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think because it is somewhat related in a way to the main event, we should possibly talk about the tag match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we had a stipulation added to that, where obviously the EVP titles are on the line from the box.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are these new championships, AWP?
36:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, EVP titles, yes.
36:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But if Swerv and Osprey lose, they can't challenge for a whole year.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what I like about that situation is a year from now is when will you be wembly?
37:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think both are very strong possibilities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it was just, if we beat you, your strip to the EBP titles, you'd go, well, Swerve and Osprey are winning this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is now like dangling that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you could have
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it allows for more storyline, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have swurped potentially turn on Osprey for putting that up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can have a big build to all in next year with Osprey finally getting that challenge again.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even a triple threat.
37:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, with, with, okay, so that's what I've been bold next year.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're right.
37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so I think this is what's going to happen.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, this, this sounds great.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, low key, this, this, on any show would have my interest, but like, yeah, I'm, I'm bummed that we're not getting a singles match from Swerve or a singles match with Osprey.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: what better two wrestlers right now to face the young bucks who have completely like shown people like hey you you know you keep shitting on us but we we're still the fucking young bucks and this year alone the end and last year too like they they're still they're still good and I'm really thinking this could be like an all-time tag team match right here like this the shit all four of these guys can do inside that ring and outside the ring I guess with the flipped outside of the ring but like they're fucking nuts and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, low key, this could potentially steal the show.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But I find it interesting, because I was just saying about the main event, we're going to have the run-ins, the bloodline rules, if you will, how even more of a reaction would it be?
38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: If Osprey gets pinned by Matt Jackson,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and the aftermath of this match is Swerve is so pissed at Osprey that he shubs him and he walks out that later in the night Swerve comes out and you think is he gonna cost hangman but then he ends up being like all right I'm sorry I'm still like even that will add like to the lower and then Swerve has a year where he can't challenge maybe he gets upset and turns heel Osprey finally wins the Owen and says well my stipulation ends at Wembley so if I win the Owen I'm gonna get that title shot
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[SPEAKER_01]: wins it has the match at Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who would be the champion there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would assume MJF at this point and and you go with that for next year, but would would would would it be dumb to do this, but it is a way to keep these guys away from the title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, I'm seeing Megan in the chat who's saying it would be real stupid if Will gets forbidden from chasing title for the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I I completely disagree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's he's over enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's
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[SPEAKER_00]: So solid enough wrestler obviously he's one of the greatest to have interesting stories in that year I think you can spin off to a proper Swerve and Osprey feud in that time We do have other titles he could maybe go for but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Osprey's first title win should be a Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no, like, it's, it would be absolutely ridiculous to put the title on him before then.
40:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And in which case, why have him challenge and lose before then?
40:11
[SPEAKER_00]: There's, there's so much talent in this, on this roster, who he can have views with, um, building up to this, you know, um, and, and I just think, yeah, it's, it's, in a way,
40:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense as to why not to put the title on him before that.
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
40:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We're cheering for the bucks here because we want that stipulation to come into play for Osprey and Swerve.
40:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, I know, you could spiral Swerve into being a heel and trying to chase Hangman, but now we can't because of the title keeps him away from him, right?
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That's another thing.
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want Swerve just going after Hangman again.
40:50
[SPEAKER_01]: These teams both of these guys busy with all this other stuff.
40:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I'm really looking forward to this match.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they'll have some spectacular stuff.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Almost like
41:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we're doing Texas death for the main event, but if this was Texas death, these guys would kill each other.
41:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And even though it's not, I wonder if the bucks add some sort of like like stipulation or they allow you know weapons and stuff because they're EVPs and their powers and all that kind of stuff.
41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're gonna, they're gonna cheat to win this one.
41:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe Jack Perry returns to help them out.
41:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that says strong possibility and that and that's another side mission for either of these guys to go on off to this map.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I think there's plenty you can keep these two busy with, you know, uh, Jones saying in the chat, Osprey and Swerve contending for the new unified title with Ocarda or Omega, immediately give that new title the much needed prestige.
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
41:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do my one thing would be where do you go with the box and they see, I can't say I particularly enjoy this EVP gimmick like and
41:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like if we're dragging out more of this.
42:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I suspect the end of the death writers after this paper view, but yeah, yeah, but the VPs are they just doing the same same old stick coming out of this.
42:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they should go for tag.
42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: the bucks are just always like the big paper view you could put them in a match and it's you know be solid and they're not necessarily like the storyline of the videos was weird with them go like they're trying to be baby faces like they're they're the crazy baby faces who are doing the like look we're back in our hometown but they're like
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They're psycho because they're actually like assholes.
42:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that was kind of funny.
42:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the I hope they come out wearing the founding fathers costumes again because I think the more people tell me they hate the young bucks over the years the more I've liked the young bucks and I don't think I'm going to stop anytime soon.
42:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll continue to ride the young bucks training.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's anything these guys could do that makes me go on that they they're like last year we were like oh is it time or they finally like
42:59
[SPEAKER_01]: watched and then they had stings retirement match.
43:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, don't ever fucking say that.
43:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Not yet.
43:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Not yet.
43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really looking forward to this tag match.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Looking forward to seeing what Swerv, Osprey and the Bucks can come up with because any time Osprey and a partner has faced the Bucks has been crazy.
43:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Same with Swerv and like any of these combos will be awesome.
43:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, those two matches already, this card is pre-stacked.
43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: We also have the AEW Women's Championship on the line, Mercedes Monet taking on timeless Tony Storm.
43:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this one has been, I wouldn't say the greatest build.
43:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I found Dynamite a bit weird this week with Tony just looking kind of their commentary really playing it up.
43:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is she scared?
43:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Is she nervous?
43:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Is she just dialed in and focused on Monet?
43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
43:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think this story has been particularly great, but I think I'm excited for the match, and it makes a whole lot of sense.
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: These are two biggest women in the division, Monet doing her belt collection gimmick and Tony being the champion in the industry.
44:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, which way do you see this going?
44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I guess I would just have Mercedes win because like to complete the like the belt collecting thing.
44:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You need the the biggest one, which is the AW women's world title, which is what Tony has.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So either way, I haven't I didn't love the the stuff with Tony, but I guess they don't want to
44:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's already so many other builds with people getting beaten down and bloody and stuff.
44:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they were trying to keep it separate from different weeks.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I do imagine we're going to get another big beat down from one of them before the next weekend.
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I haven't necessarily loved this week, but I'm still like, wow, this is one of the biggest women's matches in
44:46
[SPEAKER_01]: going because Mercedes has been on one of the hell around Tony one hell of a run so it's finally like the two parallel stories finally going to hit each other so I'm I'm looking forward to the match.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have a lot of They have a lot to live up to considering you've been teasing saying oh, it's the biggest match Grace match women's wrestling history I'm like oh, okay We've had some really good women's wrestling matches this year already two thousand twenty five is the year of women's wrestling no doubt, but I'm looking forward to seeing this I mean
45:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony, Tony has been on a great run.
45:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes was rocky at first, but I've really been a fan now.
45:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's started to click for me, but she's really fun to dislike on TV.
45:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So I really like that.
45:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the issue with Mercedes to start with was she wasn't wrestling.
45:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a stronger suit.
45:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a wrestling.
45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It's never been her promos.
45:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I think once they turned a heel, she's always been better as a heel that made her promos get better.
45:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the on the big unfortunate thing was that Brick Baker match, which I wouldn't put on Mercedes, you know, and I don't know if you saw it, but yes, but Mercedes has asked this week about.
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see you, Rhett Russell Brick Baker again, and her response was, you do, and then kind of laughs.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, oh shit, okay.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: She's kind of, and she's been like, you know, diplomatic about it, but has been like, yeah, I wish that match went a different way.
46:14
[SPEAKER_00]: There were things I didn't really agree with.
46:16
[SPEAKER_01]: She basically was saying, I wish Rebecca could wrestle.
46:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's kind of.
46:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think you're going to have this, that concern with this.
46:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think despite the story, I think the crowd are going to, they're going to treat this like one of the big, big matches on the show.
46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I would go Tony retain, I think that could start the, you know, Mercedes had all these other belts, but Tony has the belts and Mercedes could start dropping them a bit.
46:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm wondering, because I forgot that this corner thing allowed a cash in.
46:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you potentially have a thinner walking out of my field as the champion?
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: true true like what I was saying you could easily have mjfts that he's caching in because it's a contract I would one hundred percent put a thina in that battle royal casino thing no hands no doubt about that that's not a bad idea I just don't know if you would off the back if if it's Mercedes beating Tony then she would cash in on Mercedes right
47:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he, I think he the way it works.
47:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it would be a way of, you know, they started having Athena on Dynamite a bit more.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But she is Texas, she's going to have a huge reaction in that crowd.
47:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say I wouldn't do the kind of turn it into a triple threat.
47:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have the actual match.
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have a finish to the match.
47:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the cash in, I'd prefer that to MJF.
47:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the show needs to end on a big, yes.
47:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Happy high with the roster holding Hangman page, all holding the title, getting it out that briefcase.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it would be a great way to, you know, make Athena feel like a big, big deal on AEW TV after this show and spin off some fresh views, whether that be with Mercedes or returning.
48:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we're gonna get the cash in, but at least a stair down.
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I know last year it's such an afterthought.
48:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But GIV, they view in Wembley.
48:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You remember that?
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you don't.
48:18
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
48:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the link and you miss it.
48:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is too bad.
48:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We love, we love those guys and we were expecting a whole lot from them.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And it hasn't really necessarily clicked.
48:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not yet, but that you could easily have Athena like stare down one of these people and be like, hey, look, I won this.
48:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So therefore, because Athena, I would book her as like she doesn't want to just cash in, but maybe like
48:40
[SPEAKER_01]: challenge lay her claim kind of thing because maybe make her more of a baby face or something but I'm not sure I know she's been playing the heel and this and that but like a baby face is way more natural I say for her especially if this Texas crowd and everything but I don't know I think the the heel rod and it's been the most interesting she's been for sure she's just like the wrestling still comes in my like the the Athena Mercedes match on dynamite like weeks and weeks months ago now I guess was fantastic and I think
49:07
[SPEAKER_01]: we just reviewed evolution in eighteen for a patreon and we were praising ember moon on that show but we're also discussing that she gets one of the loudest reactions on that entire show and you'd you'd think she'd be one of the biggest women stars in WWE
49:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the case, which is pretty crazy, but I don't know.
49:27
[SPEAKER_01]: My heart says Tony, but my mind is telling me Mercedes is winning this thing.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just want both women to have a good time.
49:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Competition, sports women ship.
49:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
49:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have Omega vs. Oh Carter winner takes all for the brand new Unified Championship.
49:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Megan in the chat saying there's a good chance Omega or Carter might go on loss.
49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I hope.
49:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be the wrong.
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Wrong decision.
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Wrong decision.
49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
50:00
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one match that feels like the biggest match and it's been building for a long time.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: this is a big one though this this could be a main event in any show any country on any company you know like this this is the big one for sure and i think there's a lot of question like all these years later both guys are obviously older they've been through injuries they've been through this and that but it's finally happening and i think when the bell rings like
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: people will be losing their shit, us included, screaming at the top of our lungs for both of these guys.
50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So really excited about this one.
50:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We just went through all of their matches, their singles matches from New Japan and they're considered rightfully so some of the best wrestling matches ever, the best rivalry possibly ever in wrestling.
50:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And here we are getting it one more time.
50:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm very excited.
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny Omega is my guy.
50:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely love this guy as he's one of my favorites to watch.
50:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm really hoping these two can
50:54
[SPEAKER_01]: even a sliver, even a third, a quarter of what we got from all those years ago in Japan.
51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think these guys are going to bring out the big guns.
51:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do you not, right?
51:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Okato versus Abushi was pleasantly surprising on Wednesday, on Dynamite, three hundred.
51:15
[SPEAKER_01]: on one one one side.
51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like finally, Ocada's back to, you know, wrestling and there was some great great spots, but then also the other side was a boochie and a boochie finally like looking good again.
51:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh man, like, and if that wasn't good enough.
51:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny Omega comes out.
51:31
[SPEAKER_01]: The Golden Lovers hug reunite.
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my God.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: If we didn't book a trip already, Davey, I would have been calling you being like, let's fucking go.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I hope Coda Abushi is in that casino gauntlet now, just fun, cause cause, right?
51:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm super into this match.
51:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's so much on their shoulders here with the, with the past matches being so highly praised with wrestling fans.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they can tap any of their old stuff, but either way, I'm gonna be happy seeing this.
52:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why they've lent so much more on story.
52:06
[SPEAKER_00]: With this one, they've lent on like the Don Callous Family and that kind of stuff because it's weird, isn't it?
52:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the bar is so, so high.
52:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And neither of these guys are washed by any means.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Boom.
52:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So neither of these guys are the same people they were seven years ago.
52:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
52:27
[SPEAKER_00]: therefore like I don't like I don't expect we're gonna have a match that tops any of the new Japan match it's but as they said the bar there is what seven stars from Meltzer like sure we could get a four and a half and that's a fucking awesome match but
52:42
[SPEAKER_00]: we might get more but I think the fact that they've gone very story heavy on this is to try and kind of make it feel different from those new Japan ones make it and it already it already kind of is I mean we just reviewed them so they're really fresh in my mind but like Kenny was
52:58
[SPEAKER_01]: a heel in the first time with the bullet club wrestling kingdom eleven main event but you could see like there was people in the crowd can he as you hear through the the rematches and everything by the final one in dominion two thousand eighteen the crowd kind of switch and are now sighting with can you make it and I think going into this one having heel cotta
53:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still Ocada, so your smart fans are like, fuck yeah, let's bring it out.
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully he wears the short boys, not the long boys.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully Ocada doesn't come up with any balloons.
53:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Some red and purple as well.
53:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: None of these black boots come on.
53:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kenny says far away from the fucking horrendous.
53:36
[SPEAKER_00]: No file fantasy.
53:37
[SPEAKER_00]: No final fancy.
53:39
[SPEAKER_00]: No devil's cry.
53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We won't battle cry, okay?
53:42
[SPEAKER_01]: battle cry definitely is is the the one Kenny song for me, but yeah, totally looking forward to this match.
53:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think they will deliver.
53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I think by the end of it will be like, wow, how did they had they do that one?
53:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And the stuff with Don Callos and all that abushi, you might get some interference and stuff, but I don't know.
53:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just thinking that these guys they wouldn't book this match if they didn't think they could
54:04
[SPEAKER_01]: do it, you know what I mean?
54:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really looking forward to it.
54:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would also think that's why I wouldn't put it at the end of the shot.
54:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think being in the middle is a huge marquee match would like lower expectations a bit as well.
54:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm super excited.
54:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a car is winning this one.
54:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think O'Cotta too.
54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I think O'Cotta because there's some more you could do with the story there of him in this new title, and having some big matches we mentioned, Swerve, O'Cotta that could be a sweet feud that we go to.
54:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Potentially Osprey O'Cotta in AEW as well this year.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's similar like my mind says Ocada, but my heart is for my Canadian brethren, Kenny Omega.
54:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going with Kenny Omega on this one.
54:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one.
54:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But I, if it's hard to win this, isn't it?
54:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Two, two, one.
54:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's essentially tie is up the series.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So if Okada wins, it's tie.
55:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
55:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's Kenny won the G-One and the last minion match.
55:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Okada won the first Wrestle Kingdom match and they drew at the first minion.
55:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So who's leading right now?
55:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Okada.
55:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny?
55:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, true.
55:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So that means if we do this one more time and they have to do it one more time.
55:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is the last time.
55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we do this much ever again.
55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would push that if like already if they haven't already.
55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, then pushing this match out.
55:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been kind of key.
55:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's kind of been, you know, I'm pretty sure Observer Meltzer were
55:35
[SPEAKER_01]: referencing that the hey they could be going towards this match many many months ago, but as soon as like on TV they started showing the direction I think that's when some people like me and you were like fuck it let's go to the show because ticket sales did start to to move a bit for this but yeah can you make a lot of I'm totally in this this card already looks crazy adding this adding this to any paper view is nuts and super super in
55:58
[SPEAKER_00]: and and a bushy a bushy did look good again like he did the abushi of old but he was he could go like he I really love that man I love that match I love and then of course gold lovers hugging how could you not yeah I don't know I mean that's how much we could we could go to as well as Ocada abushi sorry omega abushi down the line as I'm well come on come on
56:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't talk like that.
56:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it before and it's been amazing.
56:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out Peter Pan.
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.
56:30
[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't done it a lot.
56:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Have they at least not in like modern years?
56:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They did it in the G one, right?
56:37
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a G one match.
56:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was it in I like since they're at their prime if you know to me.
56:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because they they swore they would never fight remember that's and he's like I can't fight you you're my your my brother your my lover I can't stop stop this I do want to see Takeshta versus Abushi and I think we might get a little bit of that in the in the casino I feel two ways I thought that maybe we would get bandied over Takeshta for all in instead that is the ring of honor Friday show and like unfortunately we're only in Dallas for a few days I don't want to spend my Friday night watching ring of honor
57:11
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but that match sounds awesome.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito versus to Kesta.
57:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, please please please put on a great show.
57:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably try to check it out days after that, but I'm sure people will be raiding about it, but I do hope to Kesta's in the battle royal and I or casino gauntlet and I do hope it boost you because then we can spiral off and go to that match, which
57:31
[SPEAKER_01]: would be amazing I like just yeah that's the one for me uh what what do we call the the team of take casha in the box the take kept the talk a box the take cash box the alpha box alpha box that's the end of the right way uh that was the team
57:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That was just made for me.
57:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Takesh is like my one ace right now.
57:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm feeling that he should have been on a bigger spot on this paper view.
57:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I'm hoping that we get the Abushi Takesh.
57:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think he could be a project after all in.
58:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Megan in the chat saying, give me a card of us to Takeshda.
58:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a baby face to Takeshda versus Peel Unified Champion of Carda.
58:09
[SPEAKER_00]: would be the way to go.
58:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that would be a big one hopefully all out maybe potentially possibly uh yeah really looking forward to that um to catch the in that gauntlet thing i'm hoping but abushi in a w hopefully we get some more spots because i honestly thought he looked great and that match on on Wednesday was awesome with him in okada so uh book it what we're going you're going with okada i'm going with omega yeah
58:36
[SPEAKER_00]: We also had an outstone collision last night.
58:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We had Kyle Fletcher defeating Daniel Garcia in the main event and we'll be challenging Adam Cole for the TMT Championship at all then.
58:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think this is the right move.
58:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They had the one match that led to a tie, essentially a bedroth.
58:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going back to this.
58:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I totally see Kyle Fletcher taking this title from Adam Cole.
59:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been in rehab with Cole, but the rehab was like, quick, give him a title to hype him up.
59:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it worked to be honest.
59:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Fletcher, you just can't deny that he's on
59:11
[SPEAKER_01]: the up I mean the the story that I watched on collision made me completely forget we were there Adam Cole and mjf fought for the tag titles on the pre-show and look at look at what Kyle Fletcher how he looked then and how Kyle looks like Kyle Fletcher for eight years
59:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he ate that guy.
59:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So the protostar now should take this title from Adam Cole, one hundred percent.
59:36
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, he should, he should steam roller.
59:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Adam Cole, I'm so sorry.
59:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Adam Cole, you used to be our favorite, but right now, just ain't the time.
59:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Fletcher's on the, on the one up.
59:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't necessarily go Fletcher for the main title quite yet, but this is the perfect little stepping stone for him.
59:52
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's someone down the line we could have in that unified championship mix.
59:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
59:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I completely agree it's got a it's it's such a shame but Adam Cole just isn't it anymore I just think I just think the aura's completely gone I don't think he's working as a baby face he he looks I like I know it's always been a body thing and I like I get it sucks talking about that but
1:00:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks undecised and not because of his build, but just his presence is not where it used to be.
1:00:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's never been the biggest guy, but I always thought his aura and his presence and everything made him feel bigger than he is.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's gone.
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that stupid blue and red t-shirt doesn't help because it's awful.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an arrogant name.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That one name is a full, which sounds like a rental car company.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're flogging a dead horse with just the undisputed era, just redone, redone, redone, and I really don't know where you go with coal.
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_00]: After this, maybe down the line, these guys can go for the trio's titles or something, but I don't see it with any of them as singles guys anymore, unfortunately.
1:01:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is the time to strap gold on Fletcher.
1:01:08
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, you could we could be building towards a sort of uh Don call us family with a lot of gold at the moment, you know, if to catch the wins the ROH championship, Fletcher wins this, so Carter wins the unified.
1:01:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see to catch the winning it because he's going off to the G one like a week after.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So right, I think you would give him the ring of honor title, but how often do they
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say I've said on a show once a place and I told you I got tickets to Peter Pan in Japan at Corcoran Hall.
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to night two.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Davey, they just announced for night one, which is in a bigger arena.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Saber Jr.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_01]: is wrestling, but only on night one.
1:01:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I only have tickets for night two.
1:01:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm wondering, they're going to do some big like Takeshta
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a reunion match on the night one and now I'm gonna have to get tickets for that one too because I don't think I want to miss that one.
1:02:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping to catch it can make Peter Pan special in Japan, but because of timing, I do think it will make sense.
1:02:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll just put this out there into the universe since sometimes I say things that come true.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_01]: The boost she looked really good on Wednesday.
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, he's a DDT legend.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Takesh is kind of a DDT legend lately too.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe if they got together in Japan, it wouldn't be the worst thing to happen.
1:02:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Putting that out there.
1:02:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not into existence, hopefully.
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I get Abushi in Britain, Japan.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And Zack is now the champion again.
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Zack's the IWG champion.
1:02:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Brandem showed that belly, what anyone saw is Zack.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's looking like because of an injury, right?
1:02:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Goto's injured, is that why?
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes and no, Godo is injured, but apparently the plan was for him to drop to that at the show.
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, and again, it kind of adds fuel to maybe Osprey not being able to challenge for the world title, because I could see him versus act for the IWGP championship alphabet and door.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be the move.
1:03:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that should absolutely be the match for for Bindor, one hundred percent, but yeah, kind of going back tracking here, too.
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Adam Cole and needs to go back to being a heel with the undisputed error.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to keep them together, make them a heel again, do something.
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_01]: This the team's title run, unfortunately, just wasn't it.
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the crowd is organically moving with, like,
1:03:25
[SPEAKER_01]: the flesh lights, you know, the flesh light section.
1:03:29
[SPEAKER_01]: As I saw it, the match with Dick Garcia was pretty good, but I'm happy he won and I'm thinking Fletcher should win again.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And you could just see it like, man, he's really stepping up.
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He's had a hell of a year last year.
1:03:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and what's also going to be interesting is eliminating one of the titles will hopefully elevate the TNT championship a little bit more, right?
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
1:03:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have the tag team championship.
1:03:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It is the team of the Hearst Syndicate Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin defending against jet speed of Kevin Knight and Spieble Mike Bailey and the Patriarchy.
1:04:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so now this is a three way triple threat.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_01]: No ladders involved yet as far as we're concerned.
1:04:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So no edge, but we got Christian and his kid, Nick Wayne taking on the hurt syndicate and jet speed.
1:04:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, these are the three, we assumed it was gonna be jet speed versus hurt syndicate like two on two, but adding Christian and Nick Wayne.
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a pretty fun smart move.
1:04:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Christian and Nick Wayne have kind of been on the back burner a little bit.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's been as hot.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_01]: as maybe it could have been or once was with the christian gimmick and everything but if the stories and the reports in some websites i think observance of the same christian really wanted to like ride this out and finish this then good for him and let's see where this goes i think maybe he loses and then beats down on
1:04:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Christian or beats down on Nick Wayne, I'm not quite sure what happens because we need edge coming back, right?
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you could do the angle at this show.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this, you've got talented people in this match, but you know, just the hurt syndicate have been so dominant and it has kind of killed the division a little bit.
1:05:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I enjoy them as a team and I kind of enjoy seeing them steam roll.
1:05:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like your job is on stuff, but
1:05:27
[SPEAKER_00]: they've been killing like the big teams as well.
1:05:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they've murdered night and speedball so many times.
1:05:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're trying to make them look defiant by like keep getting up.
1:05:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But it just hasn't worked for me as anyone being compelling to beat them.
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I respect that from Christian.
1:05:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the plan was apparently Edge and Christian versus FDR on this show.
1:05:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But he wanted to finish this angle.
1:05:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think best the super junior is kind of
1:05:57
[SPEAKER_00]: you know delayed plans a bit because Nick Wayne was off for a month in the when this feud was kind of picking up between him and Christian but I think you could have them lose whether it's Nick Wayne like walks out on Christians have the hurts and it could beat him up or Christian hates the pin and Nick Wayne snaps and is beating him down, savings beating him down and then
1:06:19
[SPEAKER_00]: you think you know me, edge comes out, the save, the big stare down, the hand shake, the hug, all of that.
1:06:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's a little of a one-eighty for Christian, but at this point, we just pull the trigger, we got to get there.
1:06:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows how long we have with both Edge and Christian?
1:06:38
[SPEAKER_00]: in ring after this.
1:06:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So get the FTR match and the buck's match done.
1:06:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we don't need much more than that, but we do need those two matches in AEW.
1:06:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Edge and Christian teaming in Toronto makes all the sense in the world.
1:06:54
[SPEAKER_01]: TLC all out Toronto FTR Youngbucks Edge and Christian show book it fucking book it yeah, I do think we got to do Cop coming out to save Christian in this and I think that's the moment we're gonna get with Christian
1:07:12
[SPEAKER_01]: edge maybe getting back together and getting one tag run out there.
1:07:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they want to win those straps.
1:07:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we go in that direction or something, but either way, I think we're getting that angle at all in.
1:07:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I like to hurt send a kid, but I know what you're saying because they they came in an absolutely geeked out private party so much that they might go over to WWE.
1:07:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So like
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_01]: it ruined them but made these two you go oh man look at these guys of course they killed those two like they look like they could eat them whereas I do love jet speed I think they put ever since teaming them together on TV they've been on a hell of a run with TV matches they've really
1:07:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They've really entertained me so I I'm happy they got this opportunity and everything considering you know We've watched speedball wrestle just years ago in crowds of like fifty hundred two hundred people and now he's wrestling you know twenty thousand people or so so cool really cool to see I'm really I'm thinking this one could be a sleeper hit of a match like they're gonna have some fun stuff hopefully doesn't go too long, but I kind of see hurts and to get retaining
1:08:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Eve Levin in the chat saying, Mama Wayne got to get involved and cost her business to straps.
1:08:21
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
1:08:22
[SPEAKER_01]: MJ have tried to distract them with the ladies and it didn't work, sort of, kind of.
1:08:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is the only other, that is the only other option is whether you have Christian and Nick Wayne have a little run with it first, but I don't know.
1:08:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have too long until all out what it's September.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how do we get the titles from hurts into kit to either bucks, FTR or edging Christian.
1:08:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So not quite sure.
1:08:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:08:49
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:08:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have the men's battle royale.
1:08:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we've sorry, go on look, you know, go on look.
1:08:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're both saying.
1:08:58
[SPEAKER_01]: mjf for this always so so okay so like there's some good stuff here i they've only announced mjf mark brisco and now mystical which we were we're not getting the hair versus mask match i assume both the guys were like no i'm not giving up my hair or my i mean that could be a forbidden dual match
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_01]: as well true true that yeah that definitely could be but I I'm happy that we're getting mystical in Texas I've been listening to that song non-stop and I think it'll be magical when he makes his entrance but that's three guys announced I also presumably get to kesta maybe a boochie I can't remember how many people we had last year but think that's where we had uh... ricochet debut that's where we had uh... Nigel make his return as well right so if you get a gyro cover ton in this
1:09:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you put that out there?
1:09:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you put that hex on us Ricky Bobby?
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you do that?
1:09:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you say that?
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I could I could I would you Jericho coming back with Judas, you know, John.
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I would pop.
1:09:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a fuck.
1:10:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I would.
1:10:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Jericho.
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you go back and pop it.
1:10:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not saying we need a whole other run and all this but like
1:10:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, come in.
1:10:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Have a boost.
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You kick your ass or something.
1:10:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to look last year.
1:10:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a bunch of people in this match.
1:10:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So like you could potentially go through a few different like who did we have?
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We had where where was that?
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the Christian, oh, twelve man.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Orange Cassidy, O'Cada, Nigel, Zach.
1:10:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, Colorado.
1:10:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually a junior, Roger Strong, Mark Briscoe, Hangman, Jeff Jarrett, Ricochet, Christian, and Killswitch.
1:10:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's twelve people.
1:10:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Then fuck yeah, you're going to have to catch up.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have maybe your Josh Alexander, you know, I'm trying to think of who else we're missing.
1:10:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Abushi being one of the like, are there any, are there any releases?
1:10:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You could say like WWE releases, you could see coming over.
1:10:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We had Ricochet debut last year during the match.
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_00]: AJ.
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_00]: AJ, he's just signed a one year contract.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
1:11:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Big boom, AJ.
1:11:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fuck off.
1:11:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wanted AJ at all in.
1:11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't tell you which AJ I wanted at all in.
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He is he's on the pre show I believe we don't know what the pre show is yet, but I do I do imagine the pre show they have a contest running day if if you send in a promo through the Costco guys and they pick their favorite one you get to sit and watch the whole show with them in their box.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_01]: How will we still talk about the Costco guys?
1:11:35
[SPEAKER_01]: How is that a forgotten thing?
1:11:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of forgot about them.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Influencing works.
1:11:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I have become a Costco membership holder.
1:11:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I am obsessed with Costco, but I don't think it necessarily has to do with them.
1:11:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I only need to go to Costco.
1:11:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't bought a double-chunked chocolate cookie just yet.
1:11:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The glisys are left out, but I think, I don't know, other surprises for this main event.
1:11:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Who else has been let go from WWE that you could like?
1:12:01
[SPEAKER_01]: see showing up, not sadrick, since he's in TNA and other reasons.
1:12:05
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no one really, there's no one really, do custom mind.
1:12:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
1:12:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Gold dust, gold dust.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, you've got to have dusted out there.
1:12:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Sammy, I would imagine they're on the show, like with the free birds and everything.
1:12:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that pre show.
1:12:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I could see them, yeah, a pre show match.
1:12:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be the Costco guy.
1:12:24
[SPEAKER_01]: A big big boom with the sun's a Texas and the free birds versus a bunch of heels.
1:12:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you would do.
1:12:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, did we have like ten man tags and twelve man tags last year?
1:12:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah, I could see them doing something like that.
1:12:36
[SPEAKER_01]: They did have sixteen men.
1:12:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was sixteen last year.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll totally do that.
1:12:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see it being a similar amount of people around twelve entries?
1:12:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
1:12:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think MJ F should win.
1:12:52
[SPEAKER_01]: this thing like as much as I want my to catch her or a bushy and all that but I do think and Jeff winning makes it a whole lot interesting with this cash in kind of gimmick so we're going with that any other surprises like you said I think a bushy to catch a twelve people there's some room for something maybe we're missing like a new Japan or something but what about the women's casino gauntlet that one maybe is a bit more there's a few more releases that you could slide in there right
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would totally go Athena to win it.
1:13:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the reports this week are that a W having dressed in eyelid dawn.
1:13:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So potentially she could be someone that debuts in this match.
1:13:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:13:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think of other other people being released recently.
1:13:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:13:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you've got
1:13:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've got probably Hikaru Shida and Reho, we haven't seen them for a while.
1:13:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I could see them being in this match.
1:13:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Tech low obviously will be in it.
1:13:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Statlander is I believe the number one entry.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:13:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Do we have a number two entry yet?
1:13:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the term and on Wednesday is it?
1:13:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't have that for the women so far.
1:14:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's only.
1:14:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Statlander, I think so.
1:14:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So I could see we're low being number two and you will all start.
1:14:07
[SPEAKER_00]: to start things.
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that would be great.
1:14:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be really good.
1:14:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do, I put my money on Athena.
1:14:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes the most sense and it establishes her in a big way.
1:14:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Jones saying, be a pre-slee?
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, perhaps.
1:14:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:14:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know necessarily about that.
1:14:25
[SPEAKER_01]: She wrestles for a little bit in AWS.
1:14:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Did she not before going to WWE NXT?
1:14:29
[SPEAKER_00]: She did and then the pandemic happened and she was stuck at home.
1:14:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Either way, this card looks pretty good.
1:14:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really sold on a lot of the big matches for this show.
1:14:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the main event, obviously, Okato, Mega, but everything else is looking tip-top for me.
1:14:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is a solid, all in treating this like it is a big card.
1:14:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They focused on the stories going into it and they've done a great job.
1:14:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's something Tony Kong learned.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I think when he started and we just had the four paper views, he kind of treated them all equally.
1:15:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, we don't have a WrestleMania.
1:15:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all WrestleMania.
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think now he's like, no, all in is the way to do it.
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_00]: He, the first all in, the Wembley all in was a lot of fun.
1:15:16
[SPEAKER_00]: We were very critical of the build for that because it didn't feel like this big, big show.
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_00]: They learned about that last year.
1:15:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They put a bit more focus this year.
1:15:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel everything has been built up for a substantial amount of time.
1:15:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had nice, like, breathe a week, like the Mexico show and things like that to just break things up and let us chill for a little bit.
1:15:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've done a great job.
1:15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see anything else being added to the main card?
1:15:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You said we're probably going to have a twenty-two man tag on the free.
1:15:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Anything else being added to the main card do you think?
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about main card just because like those are that's already a long show We do know that this starts what one PM Texas time?
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I believe so so one PM Texas time we're gonna I think that's the free right?
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the free up one the pre shot.
1:16:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, is it?
1:16:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know no.
1:16:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't know we were told to get off our passes at noon, so yes, I would imagine it starts off to that
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_01]: right right yeah so i mean that shows during the day don't forget that people that's during the day which i love means you still have your whole yeah your whole night ahead of you your whole day ahead of you after the show but uh... yeah uh... we we i i'm trying to see now when this when this thing actually starts and i think it's two p.m.
1:16:32
[SPEAKER_01]: says three p.m.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_01]: eastern time is when the paper view starts so that means the actual paper view for us will be two two p.m.
1:16:37
[SPEAKER_01]: taxes time so uh... yeah
1:16:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It can't, I don't know if they can fit anything else.
1:16:44
[SPEAKER_00]: AWS tends to have like, we say that all the time and somehow they manage it.
1:16:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that two, two better oils and we've got like probably four matches that with entrances are going to go thirty plus minutes.
1:16:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't think they should add anything else.
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I know they will add stuff for that creation.
1:17:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we'll probably get the ops, right?
1:17:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably get a trio's match maybe.
1:17:07
[SPEAKER_00]: the op speed cordio uh... uter and who would they have replaced our gate kid i guess
1:17:16
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have their moment in that main of that match.
1:17:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The earlier you did is getting the blue psych on E from Bryan Danielson in that fucking match.
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And Shay.
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Will are you just he said?
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Will are you just the one guy who deserves the blue psych on it?
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's the one who's doing it like a shadowy dog.
1:17:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see the Claudio promo on collision?
1:17:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
1:17:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:17:33
[SPEAKER_00]: When he's like, and I am a trio's world champion.
1:17:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you did just from the darkness, guys.
1:17:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And I am two.
1:17:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved him on season two of White Lotus so much.
1:17:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, that hair is just getting ridiculous.
1:17:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Daniels and shaving is fucking head when he comes into the ring.
1:17:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He does even care about hanging.
1:17:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here for a hangman.
1:17:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here for you, but not here.
1:17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And the beard too you bastard.
1:18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, Daniels and you're gonna lose your mind that Daniels and comes out.
1:18:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, but he is he's gonna come out sting two.
1:18:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we get we're gonna get final countdown.
1:18:07
[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting Metallica.
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we're getting the pixies.
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna be like odd the other one's uh, funeral today.
1:18:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it'll just be a concert.
1:18:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:18:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Mark's gonna be like for fuck's sake.
1:18:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Marks better come out to wild thing fuck fuck these themes I don't like Kenny come out to battle cry mox come on he'll he'll mox come on okay well what about Hangman he has to come out to his actual theme right or like what the highway man again like the country music again cuz I don't like his team now as much as I like his original theme I like his new one's grown on me I do
1:18:41
[SPEAKER_00]: This is like, since he's had that dark array, right?
1:18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: We need, yeah, original.
1:18:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Have both.
1:18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, you've started with the new one.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: and then all of a sudden it goes back into.
1:18:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the Dark Order hugged him as they send him off as well.
1:18:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck it.
1:18:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it reminded me we said about on that evolution, uh, twenty eighteen review about how much better the themes were then.
1:19:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's it's my golden role.
1:19:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to be able to sing their name with the theme.
1:19:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I remember that I forgot how great Billy K's theme is because it's just barely
1:19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Billy, Billy, okay.
1:19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And hangman's new theme does fit that role.
1:19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hangman's hang
1:19:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I might cry if he does.
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:19:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be fucking sick.
1:19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He has before this would be the one time to do it again, right?
1:19:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's fucking Texas, right?
1:19:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Just charges that mocks on a horse with a sword.
1:19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Takes it.
1:19:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want the horse entrance now.
1:20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You've sold me on that.
1:20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we've seen him on the horse and it was the greatest thing ever.
1:20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But like,
1:20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: for a main event of a paper view like come out on a horse for your match in Texas.
1:20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Texas death have the horse like carry all the weapons the horse with the crown of thorns.
1:20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I want.
1:20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I still need to get my cowboy shirt.
1:20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't got I haven't got a proper one.
1:20:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I ordered one on sheen.
1:20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:20:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Sheen.
1:20:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Sheen.
1:20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It sucks.
1:20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different very good.
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I returned it.
1:20:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm looking on I'm looking on Amazon at the moment, but yeah, maybe I will too Mike.
1:20:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, have you got a Hawaiian shirt for weird out this Wednesday?
1:20:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, come on.
1:20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Have I got a Hawaiian shirt?
1:20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
1:20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Does the Pope go to a White Talks game?
1:20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: well there you go there's our preview we are very excited for all in Texas and again next Saturday during the day we will be there global life field and right after whether we're at a bar after or in our Uber back to Dallas from Arlington we will be recording a little bit of a show so look for the audio Saturday night Saturday evening after all in we will be putting that audio up for your your your listening pleasure so here all of our thoughts we might be a little
1:21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Let off the Texas Sun, the Texas T, but we will give our thoughts via audio forms one way or another.
1:21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, follow the socials we will be doing that.
1:21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're very excited for Texas this week.
1:21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Very excited.
1:21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We're y'all in.
1:21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: All right?
1:21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We're ready.
1:21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We're fucking ready.
1:21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
1:21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you Tony Con.
1:21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a preview.
1:21:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What else is going on in the world?
1:21:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
1:21:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Shall we talk a little bit?
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a little, it feels like it was six years ago now, but CM Punk versus John Cena from last week's Night Championships.
1:21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I feel like we have missed a little while.
1:22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We've missed a few things here on our week off because in that week, CM Punk has apologized
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: to Saudi Arabia.
1:22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I wasn't angry at you, Saudi.
1:22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just shitting on the myth as everyone does.
1:22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So sorry.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just shitting on your government, the myth.
1:22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like I don't want to beat the dead horse, but like how I felt is if I do my job, right?
1:22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: If my if my boss or my company that I work for said, Braden, you know that job you've been doing for years, we want you to go do your job and for one shift, you're gonna wrestle or you're gonna do your job in Saudi Arabia and for that one shift, you're gonna make five million dollars.
1:22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
1:22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably go do it.
1:22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just that you know they're not getting paid any extra for these shows anymore.
1:22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
1:22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's that's changed.
1:23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there.
1:23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It's real.
1:23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all just facted into the general pay of the comments.
1:23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that.
1:23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
1:23:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I just find that weird.
1:23:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, either way.
1:23:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably do the job because I'm getting paid.
1:23:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my job.
1:23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I did get a bonus, which I still think they might be getting some extra some from that.
1:23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a little too rich.
1:23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That blood money.
1:23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you not, right?
1:23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I would do it.
1:23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what?
1:23:27
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with the CM Punk thing is
1:23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's got punk in his fucking name.
1:23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been trying to be the punk rock guy.
1:23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been trying to be the voice of the voiceless, and this and that.
1:23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And for years beating that drum, only for him to turn around and take the dollar, which I think that is the sole reason people are maybe giving him some shit.
1:23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And rightfully so, people are calling him a hypocrite, this and that.
1:23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if he wasn't someone who was always, you know,
1:23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: voicing his opinions, loud and proud, whether it's in promos, social media, et cetera.
1:24:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think people would be giving him a hard time considering that's been his MO is like, look, I am a punk, I am not the government in this and that and it just feels like the guy you once thought was leading that charges.
1:24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe just finally, you know, turned here.
1:24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The dark night, the live long enough to see yourself become a villain kind of thing.
1:24:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's rubbed people the wrong way.
1:24:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm personally like, I don't know.
1:24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not that shocked.
1:24:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not that like, but hurt about it.
1:24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm the bad guy called us.
1:24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He's here to make money, right?
1:24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I would say the difference though, Braden, is you're not worth twelve million dollars.
1:24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And going out to do Saudi for a day's work.
1:24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's, I,
1:24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the whole thing stuck.
1:24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so stink.
1:24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, I get, I get some of these people working it.
1:24:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You look at, and I always think, you look at the show and there are genuine fans in this crowd.
1:25:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the crowd were awesome for that.
1:25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell that they, they love this product.
1:25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: The people there still deserve to see WWE and go to the shows and have fun in that.
1:25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is all the, all the bad shit that goes around it.
1:25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if it was someone like, I don't condemn people in this company for going to do this show.
1:25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It is their job.
1:25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's part of their contract or whatever.
1:25:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have been as vocal as a CM Punk has and you can't tell me if CM Punk said, you know, I don't want to do this.
1:25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going.
1:25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see them cutting bait with CM Punk for not doing the show.
1:25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a huge name and it's actually your punk scene as Orton's Romans of the world who do have that stroke, who can go, I'd rather sit this one out.
1:25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought the whole thing was, I don't get why you do this to one of your top baby faces.
1:26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And it pretty much came into the story that you're a hypocrite for having this match.
1:26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just don't, I think he's lost fans because of this.
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He's saying punk, he's always going to be popular.
1:26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just think the way everything happened, I what really made me sick is when I see people like Triple H in the presser and think Rob Boundam on Twitter has said similar things after like, oh, he's, no, it's good.
1:26:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He's really grown up.
1:26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is growing up just, you know, he's accepted capitalism and that to get anywhere in life, you've got to work for a murderous dictator.
1:26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know what I mean?
1:26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: If that's growing up, I don't want to grow up.
1:26:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That made me feel pretty sick.
1:26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: That, oh, he's seen the error of his ways.
1:26:55
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he stood for something before.
1:26:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:26:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was cool.
1:26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, not so much.
1:27:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It just put a dampener on this whole match.
1:27:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we we've not ruined it.
1:27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: We know Sena's limitations at this point, but there was still that intrigue.
1:27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think when when Sena said he's gonna do this this retirement tour, CM Punk John Cena one last time was a match.
1:27:18
[SPEAKER_00]: People were genuinely excited about and like I'm one of them.
1:27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I don't know what it will look like.
1:27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not expecting it to be money in the back twenty eleven.
1:27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But man, I'm going to have some fun with this because WWE can, can kind of pull off miracles with these kind of matches.
1:27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at Rock, Hulk, Hogan.
1:27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they know how to do it.
1:27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just had this.
1:27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Black cloud over it, where I'm going, I should be really excited about this, but I think CM Punk just comes across like a complete sellout hypocrite.
1:27:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Senors this weird heel character, the pipe bomb, we talked about that.
1:27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We both liked the idea of it, but didn't quite land.
1:28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: and then see him punks coming out doing bad, seen a rap impressions where you just go man triple H is just he's fucking you isn't he he is fucking you here and and then the match like it
1:28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It was as good as it was going to be.
1:28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, as far as this scene of Rungo's, I thought it was on the upper end of it, I think they, the bells and whistles, he certainly needs in these matches now.
1:28:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was some fun kickouts and stuff and the crowd were into it.
1:28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the match was as good as it was going to be.
1:28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hate it, but as I said, this black cloud surrounding the whole thing made it just feel weird and CM Punk's definitely gone down in my eyes.
1:28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I haven't loved his run in WWE.
1:28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved the feud with Drew.
1:28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They made the best they could with his injury and everything when we got to the helm of the cell.
1:28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It was really top stuff.
1:28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, but besides that, I have not liked his WWE run.
1:28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably made of the most fucking monies ever made and fans are so happy in this and that.
1:29:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But you compare this run to his initial AEW run, like night and day in my opinion.
1:29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And what I find funny about that is MJF cutting promos like you might as well come out here.
1:29:13
[SPEAKER_01]: reparing hustle loyalty respect, which is really funny considering, sort of, did last week on SmackDown.
1:29:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I hated the match.
1:29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you said it.
1:29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this should have been the biggest WWE match potentially outside of Cody versus Punk, which we'll get there one day, maybe WrestleMania.
1:29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Cena Punk won last time fans were like, well, what if they do money in the bank?
1:29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, if they do summer's night, what if it's his last match in December that scene has been hyping up?
1:29:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's clearly got to be.
1:29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I'm punk.
1:29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: No, let's do it in Saudi.
1:29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: The place that CM Punk is shit on over the years and now has to apologize to that one guy in the crowd in Saudi.
1:29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing stinks.
1:29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing made me not care about it at all.
1:29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It made my interest go from to one hundred to zero.
1:29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You could have just had, you know, Cena, like,
1:29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Cena take out punk, uh, write him off TV for a few weeks.
1:30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We get that money in the money in the bank main event felt like the Saudi main event, you know, the Logan Paul J. U. So one, that should have been the Saudi show.
1:30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:30:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:30:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have done punk, Cena either at Money in the Bank or it's on the slam and just, I just, I don't understand the thinking from WWE to put one of your biggest stars in a position where people are going to,
1:30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: judge them and feel less about them and not want to support them as much after the fact.
1:30:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've seen, I've seen some of the biggest like CM Punk defenders being like, yeah, I can't really defend this this time round.
1:30:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that funny?
1:30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's super funny is hell, but hell of a week to be a CM Punkator.
1:30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm not a CM Punkator, but I definitely have times where I've not been supporting things he's done, things he said, and
1:30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a false prophet.
1:30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He showed me this week.
1:30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: False prophets do exist and he is one of them.
1:30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, make your bag.
1:31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But it definitely, I hated the match.
1:31:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I hated the scene of pipe bomb.
1:31:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I hated the promo from CM Punk.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really wanted, I went in being like, not all of them.
1:31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: CM Punk and John Cena.
1:31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
1:31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: One more time.
1:31:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It totally didn't hit for me.
1:31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It totally just made me not even care.
1:31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I only watched it today.
1:31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, well, I haven't watched it.
1:31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I should probably watch it.
1:31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't hear anything about it.
1:31:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Other than people sitting on CM Punk's Week in Saadie.
1:31:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So Weekend in Saadie and CM Punk just embarrassing himself, really, to me.
1:31:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it dropped down a peg for me.
1:31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a fan.
1:31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a fan of all these people who put their bodies on the line and for entertainment and this and that, but this guy makes it a real hard, like this guy makes it hard to be a fan sometimes.
1:31:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And this was one of them, or I was like, really dude, you just sacrificed the bag for your like,
1:31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, your morals essentially here.
1:31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You fell back on your sword.
1:31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: The one that you swung for years being like, hey, look at me, I represent this and this and this and now you're a false prophet.
1:32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You are just like every other fucking person here who wanted the bag and, oh, I woke up grumpy that day when I went on Twitter.
1:32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, did you wake up grumpy every other fucking day?
1:32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on, man.
1:32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
1:32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris sang in the chat.
1:32:19
[SPEAKER_00]: They had to get it out the way because Rumble is in Saudi.
1:32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Hong doesn't have to be at the Rumble.
1:32:24
[SPEAKER_00]: The only show I would say if it was in Saudi is WrestleMania.
1:32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only one you really can't get away.
1:32:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It's scripted entertainment.
1:32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't a real sports tournament where you could have played in these games.
1:32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You have the freedom of writing, whatever you want to write.
1:32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You can have CM Punk taken out on the TV just before the rumble, to stop him being in the rumble, and he can set up his maniac matchup, the elimination chamber, or the roar after rumble, or whatever, like it's, it just shows like, yeah, his values are just all bullshit.
1:33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I think that's what makes it if you didn't if you didn't claim that for years that you were the you know the voice of the voices and the diet Pepsi and all this kind of shit I don't know maybe people wouldn't give you such a hard time, but you you were like you are vocal about everything, but now you're hell of quiet when your bank accounts get in the loud so I don't know I find it weird I find I'm not someone sorry.
1:33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go for it
1:33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was going to say it as well.
1:33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's he can't do a proper apology and he can't go he can't go out there and be like I've got nothing against the people of Saudi Arabia.
1:33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a problem with the government or whatever because you know what happens you get killed a guy a guy literally got killed for being critical about Saudi Arabia on Twitter like weeks before this event happened like so it's if you can't actually put out your own apology that show in what
1:33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck's wrong with this?
1:33:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a whole.
1:33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a messy man.
1:33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so messy and again, I want to support and all these wrestlers in this and that, but it does make me look at him a little differently.
1:34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say, and I'm not even one of the bigs.
1:34:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Punk fan.
1:34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I am, through the years, love some of the entertainment that he's provided us.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure he will continue to give us some good stuff.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is definitely knocked him down a peg for me as a viewer.
1:34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure maybe for a lot of his, his supporters were like, really dude.
1:34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hmm, kind of weird.
1:34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what's next?
1:34:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to show up at a Chris Brown concert.
1:34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And say, oh, I've loved your music the whole time when you wanted to fight him a few years ago.
1:34:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It just feels like I said it, false profit.
1:34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: If you were putting all your your eggs in the sea and punk basket, how does it kind of feel now?
1:34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you, is there supported out there that are like, but, but it's, it's just trying to buy his dog a house.
1:34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah,
1:34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I would have taken the bag too, but the apology, the promo at that press conference was laughable to me.
1:34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a field that I watched it twice.
1:34:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't barely watch the scene a wrap once, but the apology to that guy in the crowd.
1:35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
1:35:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh my god, what is it?
1:35:06
[SPEAKER_01]: The apology has to be bigger than the, something like louder than that.
1:35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:35:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He apologized for that.
1:35:13
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a few other things I think he needs to apologize to maybe gain some respect back.
1:35:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But he definitely lost some respect from some people this week.
1:35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was almost like a humiliation ritual.
1:35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Triple H. Now get out there and bark.
1:35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Doggy.
1:35:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, jump.
1:35:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Jump around.
1:35:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Jump do what we say.
1:35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of thing.
1:35:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:35:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like the match either.
1:35:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what even got a bigger laugh out of that promo was tent up pulling a Jeff Hardy.
1:35:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, during that match, you had Seth Rollins come out dressed as Guy Fieri, which I thought was lit.
1:35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have Pengeic come out and he's like, wait, I got to make the save, but first let me hit my moves in my dance and my walk.
1:35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a huge chuck a lot of that, but the match did nothing for me, which is a shame.
1:35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Considering we do a show called the Champions here, just last month, we looked at scene versus punk, the original, two thousand eleven feud and how awesome that feud is and how
1:36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: not awesome.
1:36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: This one was for me anyways.
1:36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you can still go back to scene versus pump as the last match.
1:36:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what is what is bigger than that?
1:36:17
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the next like?
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I did like, I did quite enjoy the teas of Cena, you know, maybe seeing the error of his ways and going baby, but before turning again, but I'm still not sure we're getting Cody and Cena at some slam now.
1:36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So where do we go with that?
1:36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I did think I thought that was probably the highlight of the show was the Cody Randy match.
1:36:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mind.
1:36:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like this slow tease with Randy.
1:36:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It continued on on SmackDown.
1:36:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I do see him eventually turning on Cody and maybe Cody wins the title at SummerSlam and that's the big feud after that is the old Randy against Cody Rhodes.
1:37:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is, but yeah, this week specifically, WV just killed all of my interest.
1:37:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what, it must be the punk stuff for me personally, just as a fan.
1:37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I tuned into the show, Randy Cody was fine.
1:37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe they were holding back for a down the line.
1:37:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You could easily have that as a WrestleMania.
1:37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: match.
1:37:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Cody versus Randy.
1:37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe Michael Cole was talking about Ted B. Rossi Jr.
1:37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That was funny.
1:37:28
[SPEAKER_01]: The match actually was fine.
1:37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the highlight of that show, I guess, for me.
1:37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not like this show.
1:37:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the punk stuff has made me even dislike WWE even more this week.
1:37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I've not been interested.
1:37:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Cody Cena won was fucking awful.
1:37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how
1:37:43
[SPEAKER_01]: much better.
1:37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be the second time around.
1:37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll Travis Scott being involved.
1:37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll jelly roll being involved.
1:37:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but hopefully Cody gets the title back just to like get away from that.
1:37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But my interest is was was at a low and now is at all time low.
1:38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a weird one isn't it?
1:38:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like we need seen or is a baby face to close the year.
1:38:07
[SPEAKER_00]: But then it just makes this heel turn kind of feel
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_00]: redundant like if the whole thing is the it's I'm gonna leave with the championship surely you want you want that to be the final match is seen are gonna live with the championship but on the other hand you want you want that big feel good farewell for John Cena at the end here so yeah I really don't know
1:38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't like it.
1:38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not liking it at all.
1:38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, the stuff was Seth, you're teasing Seth Punk.
1:38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what are we doing?
1:38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing here?
1:38:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think we're getting Seth Punk at SummerSlam, right?
1:38:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:38:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of stimulation.
1:38:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:38:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
1:38:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of over that already.
1:38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We've done it.
1:38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We did it like a lot of this year.
1:38:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've had it a lot.
1:38:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I've enjoyed their matches so far, but it
1:38:59
[SPEAKER_00]: We have had it a lot the other the other thing that was teased is punk and Punk and Gunther So whether they go with that and maybe the setting is more like I'm gonna cash in like as the like looming over it.
1:39:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe yeah Punk and Gunther is something I'd be interested in
1:39:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, that's true, but I don't know.
1:39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So Somerslam one night is I imagine night two main event scene of versus Cody.
1:39:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Punk versus Seth potentially night one punk versus gum third night one.
1:39:29
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not not quite sure, but I did not like night a champions.
1:39:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little confused that Jade winning as well with Oscar.
1:39:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like with another like two years in a row of the Saudi shows with the weird
1:39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: pinning finishes with a referee and, you know, where's Jimmy Cordaris on the case here to figure out what happened here with Jay?
1:39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Talking some nonsense on Twitter most likely, but probably.
1:39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably.
1:39:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck it, yeah.
1:39:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I really dislike that match.
1:40:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel I've given Jay as many chances as I can give, but you've been wrestling like,
1:40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Since the beginning of AEW pretty much now, you should be better.
1:40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate, I didn't get the promo after it at all.
1:40:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like she knew she was going to get food, but then she's cutting this baby face promo about almost being an underdog.
1:40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you keep fighting, you'll get to that thing.
1:40:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, Jade, you're like six-foot tall and jacked and have steamrolled everyone you've had matches with so far.
1:40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about?
1:40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just, that felt awkward.
1:40:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, I guess it's to tie in with more of the Naomi briefcase thing, but just, Jay, just, she's, she's not good.
1:40:50
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not good in ring.
1:40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I get it.
1:40:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, look at her.
1:40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: She looks like an absolute star, but it's that the end of this match was so bad.
1:40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just exposed her so much.
1:41:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like,
1:41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: really, and you feel anyone else would go, no, let's do that finish again.
1:41:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's yeah.
1:41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like with Oscar, kick out.
1:41:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hit this one small and actually make it.
1:41:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It was awful embarrassing.
1:41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think last year, like they added it into the storyline where Randy was screwed because Gunther pinned him.
1:41:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's happened quite a lot with WWE, especially in the last year of like,
1:41:25
[SPEAKER_01]: weird things with people not kicking out or the referee this and that like I don't know quite what it is because again like the tribalist of people love to jump on all the rest of look at the referee it's like man you see it in everything like it's just something that happens but in this case like you could have just went back in like read on it or read I don't know I don't know what you would do it's hard in the moment right but still it was like oh
1:41:48
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, Jade's winning and second of all, she's winning off of that.
1:41:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was a little messy and it, I know people that the WWE defenders are always like, oh, we didn't, it happens.
1:41:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But when it's on the other show, oh my god, the referee is holding the ladder.
1:42:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see that?
1:42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, embarrassing.
1:42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, dude, fuck off.
1:42:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's going to happen in any show in any company and I get it, but when it does happen in WWE, you're like, hey, isn't this supposed to be like the NFL?
1:42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess the rest of the NFL fuck up once in a while, too.
1:42:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:42:20
[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of the show, it was all pretty forgettable.
1:42:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Rhea and Raquel was actually quite fun for what it was probably one of Raquel's better matches in the company.
1:42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Solo and Jacob, I think we called that with Solo being the new US champion and that story continues on SmackDown with... Oh, that's so laughable.
1:42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Not even.
1:42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like eye rolling.
1:42:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the new bloodline.
1:42:45
[SPEAKER_00]: the new new bloodline is now with it with solos the champ the lads in the back what are there what's the new name for a take a little uh... to letonga at the taller time that i'm but just man like these these guys there's just no war between all of them is there and like compared to uh...
1:43:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the U.S.
1:43:11
[SPEAKER_00]: are single acts.
1:43:12
[SPEAKER_00]: They are what they are.
1:43:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're not the most incredible wrestlers in the world, but they've got charisma about them.
1:43:19
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a connection with the audience.
1:43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Roman as they're like the stoic leader has a charisma about him, just none of these guys do.
1:43:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love Jacob Fattu.
1:43:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what they've been doing with him is great.
1:43:35
[SPEAKER_00]: This week, I'm like, can, across the board in WWE and it's something else putting, putting me off.
1:43:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Can we dial back with just hitting over the head with the catchphrases?
1:43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jacob Fattu is really cool.
1:43:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I think when he cuts a promo, they sound unique and authentic and stuff.
1:43:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's beating down solo at the beginning of SmackDown this week.
1:43:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just going, oh, gas, no brakes, you know what I mean?
1:44:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like,
1:44:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine, like, yeah, the rock has had a million, a million catchphrases, but can you imagine him doing a beat down going, if you're small, what the rock is talking?
1:44:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Or like, it's, and Naomi with the proceed with caution, Tiffany with the, it's tiffy time.
1:44:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I get it.
1:44:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a thing in wrestling.
1:44:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Have your catchphrases.
1:44:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Large moving.
1:44:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, but it's making your stars feel more plastic.
1:44:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's what they want though, like that's WWE.
1:44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's at the opening of SmackDown this week.
1:44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, man, Fatu, you're losing me now because you're just hitting me over the head with this.
1:44:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's meant to be an intense beat down of this guy who stole your title.
1:44:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And instead, you're just getting your t-shirt catchphrases out there.
1:44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what makes them money.
1:44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that's what they care about, right?
1:44:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.
1:44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, WWE takes something cool and they be ruined for sure.
1:44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's been a thing with them.
1:45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: They're always, they always got their finger on the pulse.
1:45:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't they?
1:45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, their fingers about a mile away from the pulse, but they're there, they're there, they're there eventually.
1:45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what you mean, because that's how I feel, but WWE just isn't wrestling to me.
1:45:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's sports entertainment.
1:45:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was going back and forth.
1:45:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why, but going back and forth with people on Twitter this week.
1:45:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause, uh, they were confused as to why Cobra Bushio Card has happened.
1:45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, oh, you shouldn't be telling stories from another company.
1:45:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, right.
1:45:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Abushi's been in this company for almost three years at this point.
1:45:44
[SPEAKER_00]: His story, he tagged with Omega in arguably the biggest wrestling show of all time.
1:45:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Like their history has been told.
1:45:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Like commentary, fill in the gaps.
1:45:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I just don't get people that watch WWE clear.
1:45:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how they handle watching any actual proper TV drama because it would be so confusing for them.
1:46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he was this person.
1:46:06
[SPEAKER_01]: How did this person?
1:46:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is this person talking to this person?
1:46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We need a video package to explain why these two characters would be talking to each other.
1:46:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I know, but it's just the tribalism's fucking ridiculous, because me, while on WWE, they go,
1:46:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did you know Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair were friends in NXT?
1:46:25
[SPEAKER_00]: We've never shown her on TV, but Charlotte looked out for Alexa on TV.
1:46:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what I do as an audience member.
1:46:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, thank you Michael Cole.
1:46:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for telling me that.
1:46:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an interesting bit of information that's going to help with the rest of this story.
1:46:39
[SPEAKER_00]: it's not rocket science none of this is and and just I don't know WWE's just getting so dumbed down again and I think they had a nice run and I I thought they had a nice run of being a little bit more complex with some of your bloodline stories with you know Sammy Jay with Drew McIntyre and stuff like that
1:47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just so spoon-fed.
1:47:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is the match we're giving to you and you're gonna like it right now.
1:47:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just dumb.
1:47:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, give me it, like, don't treat your fans like fucking idiots.
1:47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's why people laugh at this, this shit we will enjoy.
1:47:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's so childlike, it's catering to the dumbest people right now.
1:47:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, yeah, just trust that we can, we can actually understand a complex story.
1:47:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you could also maybe understand why they would book a second WWE roast event with Kill Tony after SummerSlam.
1:47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll get a WrestleMania on the front house of the White House, the front yard.
1:47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll get a WrestleMania with TKO on Trump's front lawn.
1:47:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Next year too.
1:47:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Talking about dumbing it down, you know what I mean?
1:47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely what WWE's been doing.
1:47:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, like some other matches added to Evolution with, again, no build, like EOS guy, basically being re-ripply, you're a bigger star than me.
1:48:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's have the match.
1:48:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Tiffany Stratton comes out.
1:48:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Trish, you should probably be on this show.
1:48:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Challenge from my title.
1:48:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Man.
1:48:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:48:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'd rather go to the answer.
1:48:22
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the company with the stories, right?
1:48:24
[SPEAKER_00]: The story company.
1:48:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like both of us matches great.
1:48:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Love you.
1:48:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Love Rea.
1:48:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've seen really good stuff with them in the past.
1:48:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That triple threat match was incredible.
1:48:33
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the best matches of the year.
1:48:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But what a lazy way to get there.
1:48:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiffany and Trish.
1:48:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, like just lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy.
1:48:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
1:48:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The raffle fuck up the finish.
1:48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: in the match anyways.
1:48:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ria and EO should be the main event of evolution.
1:48:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
1:48:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that makes a lot of sense.
1:48:54
[SPEAKER_01]: EO and Ripley have been the like big stars for women, especially this year, the last few years in WWE.
1:49:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they deserved that main event spot.
1:49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Trish versus Tiff.
1:49:04
[SPEAKER_01]: is this smart thing we were talking about how Trish and lead a teaming on the original evolution was a pretty cool moment and you know Trish has been kind of getting her feet wet with WWE in the last year or two here and there with some events so I think it would be cool to have heard that we we saw Trish and Tiff team up in Toronto at elimination chamber so there is some story there but it's just so weird that all of a sudden it's like hey I'm here and uh... we're gonna have the match it's like oh okay same with the reo it's like we're just going back to that again
1:49:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, it was good, but like, all right.
1:49:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think when the match happens, we'll be like, okay, it's a good wrestling match with this and that.
1:49:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But, and they just kind of weird how they got there.
1:49:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Ropping the Nikki Bellafing code because of Liv's injury.
1:49:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I still wonder if the Bellars will be a team in that tag match.
1:49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they're a surprise entry because there is a team to be announced.
1:49:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But just, yeah, like, that was the only story that they actually had building was Liv's team.
1:50:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, obviously that.
1:50:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we get Jade versus Naomi and no holds barred match.
1:50:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Bailey versus Becky versus Lyra.
1:50:09
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a battle royal.
1:50:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a four-way tag match with Raquel and Roxanne versus Alexa and Charlotte versus two teams to be determined plus EO versus Ripley and then JC Jane versus Jordan Grace.
1:50:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That's our card right now.
1:50:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which on paper looks pretty good.
1:50:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
1:50:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Like criticism with actual storytelling right now.
1:50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's it's a little it's like hey we're gonna give you this all women's thing but we're not gonna put all of our like momentum and steam behind it and if it fails it's because of the women it's like well that's kind of not I hope I think the all women on the show will wrestle with a chip on their shoulder and will knock it out the park that is what I'm predicting for that show it just the hype around it feels weird the fact that you see you
1:50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't, no matter what they ever say yesterday, you're booking this after the fact, you're counter-programming.
1:51:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I don't know if that would affect you.
1:51:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it would, but I think that has affected some of the momentum and hype going into this show.
1:51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think out of all the shows that WWE is putting on next week, this is the one I have the most interest in.
1:51:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the one I want to trust.
1:51:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah exactly.
1:51:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:51:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
1:51:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Evolution is next week.
1:51:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We will give some thoughts on it in the next week or so when we do eventually come back.
1:51:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Doing some shows and stuff because we won't be going live next Sunday.
1:51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we'll be traveling back from Dallas but we will watch it in some way shape or form and give some thoughts when we can because I am hoping this is a good show.
1:51:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just I'm really down on WWE right now.
1:51:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like they're they're thinking profits over like.
1:51:44
[SPEAKER_01]: good shit.
1:51:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're thinking how can we make the most money and we don't care about what's actually being put on the show.
1:51:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, John Cena.
1:51:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look, John Cena's on TV.
1:51:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Fifteen more stocks, but just give us your fucking money.
1:51:57
[SPEAKER_01]: CM Punk apologizing to the Saudis, not the Miz though, but to the Saudis.
1:52:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I did like that.
1:52:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, I wasn't mad at the Saudi.
1:52:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I just fucked the Miz and I know he's given the apology to the Miz this and that, but I think the Miz could have had the opportunity to do the funniest fucking thing ever.
1:52:13
[SPEAKER_01]: didn't, I guess.
1:52:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not liking where we're going with this direction.
1:52:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say SummerSlam.
1:52:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, Cody, Cena, but you've already, like, you've already dirtyed that for me.
1:52:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:52:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You've already ruined that for me the first time.
1:52:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Take a whole lot to make me interested in the second time.
1:52:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine your favorite artist drops the single as fucking dog shit.
1:52:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It is the worst single you've ever fucking heard.
1:52:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they go, hey, we're coming to town.
1:52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, do you go, do you go to that show?
1:52:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, they're going to play that old song, and that old album you really like.
1:52:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, they're going to play that new song, and you don't want to hear it.
1:52:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a tough decision.
1:52:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I give them my money?
1:52:53
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a point in time this year.
1:52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We were like, oh, should we go to SummerSlam?
1:52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to go to that Shrek Water Park again, and close to two of them.
1:52:59
[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely not.
1:53:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are we, why are we going to do that?
1:53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE needs to step it up.
1:53:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess not because they're making the most fucking money they've ever made potentially ever.
1:53:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So in their eyes, we're doing good.
1:53:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, sometimes, you know, a movie, a summer blockbuster makes billions of dollars and I watch it and I fucking hate it.
1:53:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, everything has its breaking point though.
1:53:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:53:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they'll be
1:53:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we had a bit of a run of like I was I've been to the last few summer slams and mayonnaise and stuff and was like generally enjoying going to these shows now I'm I'm not paying that money and like all in that was something that convinced us because the product was getting good again and it's like yeah I'd like to do that that sounds fun like let's go and support that and tickets reasonably priced and stuff like
1:53:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We now, we're not going.
1:53:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like WrestleMania faulty, those tickets were expensive.
1:53:54
[SPEAKER_00]: We waited, we waited them out to try and get a good price.
1:53:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But we knew we were going to spend quite a bit money on those tickets.
1:54:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't regret it at all because I thought everything building up to that show.
1:54:04
[SPEAKER_00]: They were firing on all cylinders.
1:54:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They're putting out good work.
1:54:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, there's some great wrestlers there.
1:54:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not always presented with great wrestling and WWE, but you have wrestlers capable of great wrestling.
1:54:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It was hitting.
1:54:17
[SPEAKER_00]: There was some really good matches.
1:54:18
[SPEAKER_00]: There was some great moments on that show.
1:54:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no regrets spending that money on that.
1:54:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very glad I didn't spend the money to go to Vegas this year at the moment.
1:54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad I spent the money to go to Somerslam.
1:54:33
[SPEAKER_00]: They need to step it up and they can't just rely on it.
1:54:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Trust me, it puts off your audience telling you how much money you make.
1:54:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can't imagine at the beginning of this podcast, we went, and thank you so much, guys, everyone who supported us.
1:54:48
[SPEAKER_00]: We made this amount of money, this month, from the shows we did from you, you paying us, we made this much money.
1:54:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You'd be like gross, gross, that sucks, like fuck off.
1:55:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we rinsed you and raised our prices every year, little by little, so much that you can't even afford to take your children to our shows, even though this is a show for children.
1:55:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It's written for children, price for billionaires.
1:55:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:55:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Support local independent wrestling people wherever you're from.
1:55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They probably got wrestling.
1:55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw our friend Beno from grapple.
1:55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in Vietnam, Iranic.
1:55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He walked out on a walk and found wrestling independent wrestling.
1:55:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's crazy in the rain.
1:55:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just in Oshua, Ontario in a parking lot on a beach and you know what there was a thunderstorm too in the middle of this wrestling show and it was awesome so support your independent wrestling because you know what you can afford to take your whole family to your local independent wrestling shows because they don't cost an arm in a leg or
1:55:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, a flight to Saudi, but I do hope WWE steps it up.
1:55:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There has been some glimmers of some good stuff, and I will say out of all of the debt stuff from WWE.
1:55:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the women that have been killing it for me this year, and I do hope evolution is a grand slam for them, but it's going to take a lot.
1:56:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The counter-programming thing, you know, great American bash.
1:56:10
[SPEAKER_01]: They take it to expensive for that.
1:56:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not necessarily selling well.
1:56:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That is crazy.
1:56:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I still wasn't it the cheapest ticket was like, hundred and forty dollars.
1:56:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what the fuck?
1:56:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is for the NXT show.
1:56:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And Amora and Oberfemi.
1:56:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:56:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Three matches booked.
1:56:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my crazy.
1:56:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely crazy.
1:56:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
1:56:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We're maybe we're sounding a little tribalist here.
1:56:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But ever since Javan Evans made that tweet to Ricochet, things necessarily haven't been good.
1:56:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They had to cancel that Tampa show.
1:56:42
[SPEAKER_01]: they to move.
1:56:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And now this is happening.
1:56:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Just saying that was a bad luck charm from that tweet from Javan Evans.
1:56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we say as it is, as they said, I was so down on AEW, like six months ago, six months ago.
1:56:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, and I was genuinely really enjoying stuff in WWE.
1:57:01
[SPEAKER_00]: There's still stuff I like.
1:57:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I still enjoy probably raw the most out of all them.
1:57:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are some like there are glimmers here and there that I find quite enjoyable.
1:57:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I did get a chuckle out a Ludwig Kaiser as the new algorithm.
1:57:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That there is still stuff, but we're talking about the big stuff in WWE and it's not moving us.
1:57:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not moving me for sure.
1:57:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in waves like everything and I think AEW what they've been good at is focusing on
1:57:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Just focusing on what they're doing, not trying to count a program, actually focusing on a core group of younger guys who are pretty much AEW homegrown, not relying on your edges and your Jericho's of the world anymore.
1:57:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's happening, they're building, it's working.
1:57:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm still a wrestling fan and I'm still a WWE fan.
1:57:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still like, I love this shit.
1:57:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll always continue to watch it.
1:57:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But there has been some stuff that hits, I hit a wall.
1:58:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And this week, especially with the, you know, the CM Punk stuff, it felt, it felt almost embarrassing.
1:58:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just didn't, it doesn't drive me to want to watch WWE as of right now.
1:58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely like late to the part.
1:58:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched, I caught up today watching everything and I was like, ah, it has spent my time watching other stuff.
1:58:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel that way about watching dynamite three hundred this week, but I did love that show, but send just some other quick things before we sign off today.
1:58:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this story about live Morgan and if you heard about this, the feds are involved now.
1:58:43
[SPEAKER_01]: From Scarborough, Ontario, and Call Me Crazy David, we have seen this guy before, at events.
1:58:49
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen this guy in Toronto.
1:58:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks very familiar to me.
1:58:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to outright say that he's come to one of our events, but this guy has been in Toronto wrestling events before.
1:58:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's the WWE Access Store, I think this guy was hanging around that store last March, and last summer, if I'm not mistaken, I've seen this guy before.
1:59:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was very freaked out reading this thing.
1:59:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So a Scarborough man's, of course, makes his way down to the states.
1:59:14
[SPEAKER_01]: The day he gets his passport, he travels to the US and tries to go to Liv Morgan's house.
1:59:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude, this is so beyond fucked up.
1:59:25
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a terrifying story.
1:59:26
[SPEAKER_01]: We've heard this in the past.
1:59:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember the Sonia, theville thing that I was like, absolutely terrifying.
1:59:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, these are real people.
1:59:32
[SPEAKER_01]: These are characters on TV that we watch for entertainment, but these are real people who get bothered after every flight, get stocked at the airport to get now stocked at their houses.
1:59:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is absolutely disgusting.
1:59:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And this guy should be locked away for a long time.
1:59:46
[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, holy shit, disgusting story to hear about this.
1:59:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure this happens a lot more than we
1:59:53
[SPEAKER_01]: can even hear about whether it's wrestlers, artists, bands, actors, whatever it may be.
1:59:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely crazy.
2:00:00
[SPEAKER_01]: There need to be some changes with that.
2:00:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't obviously, obviously you won't like interactions in proper circumstances.
2:00:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Comic-ons, stuff like that, or you bump into someone you're a fan of on the street naturally.
2:00:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you want a nice interaction with them.
2:00:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to come out going, ah, man, live Morgan's a dick.
2:00:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's things like this, why you completely understand why sometimes these celebrities are dicks to people, because they don't want to encourage this behavior.
2:00:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It is weird hanging outside their hotel.
2:00:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It is weird finding out when their flights are getting in to see them.
2:00:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, like, find out where she lived.
2:00:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That's another thing.
2:00:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He found out where she lived.
2:00:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, all that stuff, it's just, it goes beyond.
2:00:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
2:00:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, being a celebrity, it comes with that kind of thing.
2:00:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You are, you do go for dinner.
2:00:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And if someone, you know, waits for you to finish your meal, and then goes, hey, I'm a really big fan, appreciate what you do.
2:00:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you mind if I have a photo?
2:01:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Nine times out of ten, they are going to say yes.
2:01:02
[SPEAKER_00]: If you are waiting outside there,
2:01:07
[SPEAKER_00]: they're like arrivals lounge because you found out what they're getting into and what time and what hotel they're starting at.
2:01:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's creepy finding their actual fucking house even worse.
2:01:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So I especially the women
2:01:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, I don't blame you for being dicks to people when shit like this happens.
2:01:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's on your to build case was absolutely terrifying.
2:01:32
[SPEAKER_00]: This is similar to get a gun or something.
2:01:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is like, this is really, really scary stuff.
2:01:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, honestly, it creeped me out of like, I can't even imagine some of this stuff that they go through, especially the women with fan interactions and stuff like that.
2:01:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's super gross.
2:01:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, you see certain clips, was it reapply getting harassed at the airport when Kevin owns this video where he's like, hey, you good?
2:01:57
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, yeah, and it's like, I'm happy to see stuff like that, whereas they got each other's backs and stuff.
2:02:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Or when you see the young bucks,
2:02:03
[SPEAKER_01]: They put out a video where they're like, you should, you know, the house show dive.
2:02:07
[SPEAKER_01]: When you do a house show and your dive is like just a cross body to the outside instead of like a toe pay, you should see the airport autograph.
2:02:14
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like him going like a scribble because he's like, you're just going to sell this online.
2:02:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Leave us alone, essentially.
2:02:21
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a big, there's a line between fandom and obsession, I think.
2:02:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And this story with Liv Morgan, like, and on top of that, she's dealing with the injury and all that kind of like, it is, it is scary.
2:02:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You would imagine she moves.
2:02:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Because like you would have to people know your address and stuff that must freak you the fuck out and I feel for for her and a lot of these people again.
2:02:40
[SPEAKER_01]: These are wrestling is weird.
2:02:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like comic book heroes and villains, but then you remember their real people and people do bother them all the time and I I think there is a time in a place to ask your favorite wrestler for autograph and a picture and stuff and at nine times at a ten you said they will do it, but
2:02:56
[SPEAKER_01]: conventions when they're making money definitely they'll do it but at an airport after a long ass flight could you imagine you go on a fucking ten-hour flight or something and right away someone's like hey David kind of your picture let me take your picture let me get your autograph hello it's like no fuck off
2:03:12
[SPEAKER_01]: it piss me so bad to hit me that story and I so feel for Liv Morgan in that situation so all the power to Europe she's all all right because wow that would freak me to fuck out if something like that happened to me or anyone I know so uh crazy story um and then last thing
2:03:30
[SPEAKER_01]: If this is real, Street Fighter, the movie is casting everyone's cousin and their brother and friends, including WWE superstars.
2:03:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just didn't believe this was a thing, but I'm at Forb's.com.
2:03:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And they got the Street Fighter, the name of this article, the rather absurd Street Fighter movie cast as of right now.
2:03:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And it includes two WWE superstars.
2:03:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Cody Rhodes has been cast as Gile, which I know you're not as huge Street Fighter fan, but people are like, what?
2:04:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And then on top of that, Roman Reigns as Akuma.
2:04:10
[SPEAKER_01]: crazy this movie is going to be nuts so we got uh... and your shorts is obvious also been added to this uh... david dast mcclean he's in a bunch of stuff we've reviewed him in dark night orville peck uh... toronto like country music artist has been kept his movies crazy jacim a mowa getting jacim a mower and right romaine's next to each other that's gonna be not fifty cent is in this movie
2:04:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine Kenny Omega somehow makes his way in here too.
2:04:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is going to be all they realized Street Fighter is still a hot commodity with the gaming world.
2:04:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They saw I guess how popular the Mortal Kombat movie is.
2:04:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They're making the second one right now.
2:04:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I'm all in.
2:04:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
2:04:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm an average Street Fighter fan.
2:04:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like super into the fandom, but Roman Reigns Cody Rose and fifty cent.
2:04:58
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
2:04:58
[SPEAKER_01]: All watches movie.
2:05:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I honestly I get confused between street fire and combat there.
2:05:04
[SPEAKER_00]: They're the same game to me.
2:05:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't ever really cared for the movies that we watched about either.
2:05:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm intrigued.
2:05:14
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just to see how Cody and Roman will be in this.
2:05:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like how we wake them across who will be the better wrestler actor.
2:05:21
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have Cody in
2:05:23
[SPEAKER_00]: the naked gun, the new naked gun.
2:05:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that looks so good.
2:05:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting that he's starting to get these rolls.
2:05:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, I probably will check this one out.
2:05:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have to review the original when it comes time.
2:05:38
[SPEAKER_01]: This is people have said they have a thing about the huge item.
2:05:41
[SPEAKER_01]: We've reviewed Mortal Kombat from the nineties, but I've even, Mortal Kombat from the nineties, I think has, is a bad movie, but it has a lot of nostalgia for a lot of people, especially our age.
2:05:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas the Mortal Kombat, sorry, the Street Fighter movie, which John Codbandam and who's the singer in it, oh, man, they had an affair.
2:05:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Kylie Monogue, okay, is in it.
2:06:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And people are like, why the fuck is are they in this movie?
2:06:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a really bad movie, but we'll make for a really good review possibly.
2:06:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe down the line.
2:06:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But I saw this and I just didn't believe it.
2:06:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to tell me that in sound like there's AI, Cody Rhodes, Roman Reigns, Fifty Cent, Jason Memoa, Orville Peck, like, what the fuck?
2:06:18
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to get crazier this movie, but I'm interested.
2:06:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is cool seeing Cody Rhodes in the naked gun trailer, and now being cast in this, how long till we lose
2:06:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Cody Rhodes.
2:06:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Cody to Hollywood.
2:06:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be when that hill turn happens, right?
2:06:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
2:06:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's right.
2:06:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait when he dies the hair black black again, right?
2:06:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:06:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:06:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, that's all the stuff going on in the world of wrestling at least that we're gonna talk about today.
2:06:48
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were going to say Cowboy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to get you out of Cowboy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do have Cowgirl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was Cowgirl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Poison Rana.