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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 5-29-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 5: Is there anything more disgusting then radio people with a
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  Speaker 5: box of donuts?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? My god?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the way we just run through those things. Well,
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  Speaker 5: Well thank you Kevin for the donuts.
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  Speaker 3: to that media room and put down a back. Sorry, sorry, Jeff,
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  Speaker 3: We're just talking to Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: If the Broncos put out some donuts in that media room,
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  Speaker 3: what does it just look like a bunch of vultures?
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  Speaker 4: What is? It?
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  Speaker 1: Depends on the time of day. You know, you get
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  Speaker 1: it early. You know you're gonna get your You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get your choice.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Pizza Friday. Do they still do pizza Fridays now?
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  Speaker 1: Only only like for special special times. They don't. They
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  Speaker 1: don't do a bunch of that stuff anymore, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: certain times a day it's pretty much carnage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever seen, you know, one of those documentaries
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  Speaker 4: from Africa and you got like a water buffalo carcass
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  Speaker 4: out there.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody's get a piece of it. That That that's
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  Speaker 2: media members on a box of donuts, No doubt about it.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be out there today, Jeffrey for OTAs, I guess
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  Speaker 5: the topic at hand. Every OTAs who is not there
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  Speaker 5: and it always seems to steal the narrative. Do we
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  Speaker 5: know of any big name players that won't be at practice?
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  Speaker 1: The guy have not heard of people who won't be
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  Speaker 1: participating other than recovering from injuries. So you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see when we get out there. But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they've had the I'm staying away because I'm mad thing.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see. You know, there's always a surprise because
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  Speaker 1: the thing about this time of year is maybe a
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  Speaker 1: guy isn't there today, but he took part in the
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  Speaker 1: other three days of the week. You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: come for all four and even coaches aren't always you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know nuts if a guy isn't there for all
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  Speaker 1: four days, like a guy will come for three or
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  Speaker 1: two or have something going with his family or an
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  Speaker 1: appearance or something, and they and they bailed. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: today is the day we get But they've had four
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  Speaker 1: days of work this week.
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  Speaker 2: Well, who would be on that list?
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  Speaker 5: Not that they're mad, but who's on that list of Okay,
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  Speaker 5: it's time to start negotiating getting some leverage financially.
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  Speaker 2: Who are some of those players?
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  Speaker 1: Well, last year it was Sutton, Yeah, you know who
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  Speaker 1: stayed away this year the only guy really and two
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  Speaker 1: guys in that category are you know, Zach Allens made
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  Speaker 1: his preference pretty clear that he wants a new deal
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  Speaker 1: and Courtland again is you know, they didn't add any
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  Speaker 1: new money to Courtland's deal last year at all. They
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  Speaker 1: just turned base salary into signing bonus. He didn't get
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  Speaker 1: a raise, he didn't get more guaranteed money, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: get more of anything other than some incentive bonuses he earned.
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  Speaker 1: So they didn't add new money last year. Courtland did
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  Speaker 1: him a favor by coming back and coming to the
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  Speaker 1: mini camp. So I really think in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: locker room and other things, they they should probably get
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  Speaker 1: something done with Courtland that you know, people can see
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  Speaker 1: and that is a real, a real deal.
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  Speaker 5: What about John Franklin Myers, who's active on social media
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  Speaker 5: saying he wants some money.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's another guy in that category. And again, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I say, these are, uh, these are far more
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  Speaker 1: voluntary than they've been in past year. I mean, guys
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  Speaker 1: are really empowered now to to you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's more accepted league wide. A guy might not be
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  Speaker 1: there for every single OTA day, you know, like in
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  Speaker 1: the past. So again, we we get the bare minimum
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  Speaker 1: here in terms of the media rules. We get one
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  Speaker 1: OTA session a week that we can see, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: a guy could have participated in all of the other
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  Speaker 1: ones and not be here today. So you know, again,
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  Speaker 1: until you see it with your own eyes, that's my
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  Speaker 1: that's always my test.
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  Speaker 3: It's one thing that I was actually curious about is
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about guys who want more money. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos draft Johnny Baron and it sounds like he's
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  Speaker 3: probably going to be your nickel guy to start the year.
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  Speaker 3: But you had somebody there that was on an undrafted
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  Speaker 3: free agent rookie contract that seemed to outplay at least
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  Speaker 3: that in Jakwan McMillan.
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  Speaker 5: What happens with him?
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  Speaker 1: I think Baron's gonna line up a lot of places, Brett.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you can just classify him
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  Speaker 1: as a nickel on every down. I think he's gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be multiple places in the defense.
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  Speaker 1: At least that was their plan, you know, early on here,
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  Speaker 1: and he's already shown he can he can handle it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean though the rookie Mini camp. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: saw him line up at three different places in Rookie
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  Speaker 1: Mini Camp, which means you're you're a pretty smart guy.
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  Speaker 1: If they give you the install the same day and
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  Speaker 1: you can line up successfully at different spots the same day,
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  Speaker 1: you're a pretty sharp guy. So you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: McMillan will play a snap count may not be equal
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  Speaker 1: to what it was, but because Baron's in the mix,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we don't know officially until we see
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  Speaker 1: him play a game, but you know, he can line
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  Speaker 1: up on the outside and be one of their top
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  Speaker 1: two corners. He can be their best nickel, and he
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  Speaker 1: could be a dime linebacker. He could line up at
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  Speaker 1: safety and be one of their top three safeties right now.
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  Speaker 1: So no matter where you put him, he's gonna be. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I heard somebody compare him to Brian Branch. Is that
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  Speaker 3: too much of a comparison? Is it close?
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  Speaker 1: It's that type of player, you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Branch had Baron's explosiveness in terms of playing on the outside.
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  Speaker 1: Branch can play on the outside, but he was the
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  Speaker 1: best nickel corner in that draft and did play the
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  Speaker 1: same position in college, the star that quote unquote star position.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Nick Saban really made it a thing, but
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  Speaker 1: Nick Nick used it in Branch was his star, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his last couple of years at Alabama. So they did
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  Speaker 1: play the same college position. But I think Baron has
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  Speaker 1: more explosiveness and top end speed.
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  Speaker 4: Overall, your latest article focused on something that I never
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  Speaker 4: even thought of, which is why I love to read
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  Speaker 4: your stuff. When you look at the Broncos draft, Jeff
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  Speaker 4: and all the guys who are non transfers in college
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  Speaker 4: that they they played at their schools, and they played
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  Speaker 4: a lot at their schools, got me to thinking down
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  Speaker 4: the road. With the way the transfer portal is going
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  Speaker 4: and players getting paid big money to move because they're
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  Speaker 4: very good players, will Sean Payton and company be able
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  Speaker 4: to keep up this trend of they want guys who
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  Speaker 4: have stability and so on when there's so much talent
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  Speaker 4: out there moving all over the place right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's why it intrigued me when
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  Speaker 1: it you know, other than the seventh rounder who was
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  Speaker 1: a basketball player, right, all of their draft picks, the
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  Speaker 1: other six played at least forty one games at another
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  Speaker 1: school at one school, and I'm not sure any other
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  Speaker 1: team had that in their draft class.
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  Speaker 4: And I love how he said it wasn't He said
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't by accident, right, I mean that it's not
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  Speaker 4: the only thing, but it's something that they consider, which
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  Speaker 4: I again, Jeff, I never even thought of that before.
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  Speaker 2: And Jeff.
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  Speaker 5: It's also a reason a lot of those guys they
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  Speaker 5: pick our captains of their teams.
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  Speaker 1: Right. No, and you know, Harvey did transfer, but he
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  Speaker 1: transferred after never playing a game at Virginia, So that's
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  Speaker 1: that's a different sort of thing than a guy going
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  Speaker 1: three times.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I think the portal is a fact of college
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  Speaker 1: life until you know, whatever legislation's coming happens. But I
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  Speaker 1: think they're is data out there to show that unless
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  Speaker 1: you're you were an elite player, that transfers had an
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  Speaker 1: impact on your draft status. And you know, and and
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the league is far more accepting
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  Speaker 1: about it than they used to be because they have to.
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  Speaker 1: But the I was curious if the Broncos had made
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  Speaker 1: a concerted effort to look at that, and they did.
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  Speaker 1: He said they did. It was a it was a
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  Speaker 1: part of the equation because there's some sentiment that the
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  Speaker 1: portal makes it easy for a guy just to be
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  Speaker 1: angry or I'm upset I didn't get to play, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe a quitter mentality in the Week seven, Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: you know, you didn't fight through adversity, which is a
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  Speaker 1: big part of being a pro football player is dealing
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  Speaker 1: with the crap that comes at you, you know, week
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  Speaker 1: to week. Uh So, I think that was some of it.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted guys who hung in at some place and
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  Speaker 1: invested themselves in the place because I think draft built
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  Speaker 1: teams are better over the long haul, because the players
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  Speaker 1: are invested in the team that picked them. I think
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  Speaker 1: there is something to that in football still to this day.
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  Speaker 1: And the Eagles are largely a draft built team. The
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs are largely a draft built team. We've seen largely
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  Speaker 1: draft built teams win the most. Yeah, free agency gives
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  Speaker 1: you that one guy that you know pushes you from
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  Speaker 1: eleven wins to thirteen. But to get in the mix,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to be a draft built team. And I
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  Speaker 1: think those guys are invested, and I think they think
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos thought that players like this are more invested
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  Speaker 1: in what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Lego this ESPN dot Com. One thing we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about is the wide receiver room. So they have three
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  Speaker 3: guys that feel like they're built of the same in
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  Speaker 3: Sutton Vle and Pat Bryant who they just drafted. And
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  Speaker 3: they have two guys in Troy Franklin and Marvin Mims
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  Speaker 3: that bring a little different dynamic.
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  Speaker 2: Was curious to see if they're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to add a veteran in the offseason, and they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think that room looks like when the
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  Speaker 3: season rolls around, knowing you haven't seen much of Pat
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  Speaker 3: Bryant yet, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think it looks like that. But I think those five
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  Speaker 1: guys are your starting point, and if somebody can force
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  Speaker 1: them to keep six or something, maybe that happens. But
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  Speaker 1: it's no accident. That's that's that's how Sean Payton wants
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  Speaker 1: receivers to look six two six three, two hundred ten pounds,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and eight pounds. That's that's what he wants.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's any accident. He you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was a you know, an eyebrow raising comparison, but you
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  Speaker 1: know he went right to Pat Bryant reminds me in
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  Speaker 1: his release coming off the line of scrimmage, Michael Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the that's his vision of a
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. He thinks, and has said many times he
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  Speaker 1: thinks smaller receivers have a much more difficult time in
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  Speaker 1: the league, and especially in his offense. You know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff coming across the field uh, short
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  Speaker 1: intermediate stuff. I mean, there's there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: in his offense where the big guys have to win
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  Speaker 1: contested catches and and that's what he wants. He wants
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  Speaker 1: he wants guys that can win those for his quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Then why, why the why is Marvin Mins on his
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  Speaker 2: team just to return stuff?
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  Speaker 1: There's an exception to everything. The exception is he's a
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  Speaker 1: damn good player and he needs more snaps.
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  Speaker 4: And we've we've I was talking about this earlier, Jeff,
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  Speaker 4: that we've I mean for a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Go, I can't they could get on the field at all, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then and then they.
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  Speaker 1: Started doing Yeah, when they did, what happened, he was
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  Speaker 1: almost w R one down the stretch. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the great mysteries of life. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I still don't have a great explanation of why he
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  Speaker 1: didn't get more snaps in the first half of the season,
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  Speaker 1: because you got to practice, and he's clearly one of
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  Speaker 1: the two best receivers on the field. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: good enough with the ball in your hands to be
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  Speaker 1: an All Pro returner twice, I'm pretty sure you should
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  Speaker 1: touch the ball at other points in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff, I saw this little blurb. It was in ESPN,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't remember what the article was or who
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  Speaker 3: wrote it, so my apologies. Maybe it was you, who knows,
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  Speaker 3: but it was about dark horse super Bowl contending teams,
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  Speaker 3: and the reasoning for it was teams that had a
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  Speaker 3: good offensive line and a great defense, and it was
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos and the Vikings in that discussion.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the formula every coach in the world. Who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna point that one out? You know, you got those
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  Speaker 1: two things and a quarterback to have a quarterback you
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  Speaker 1: feel good about.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I but my question was gonna be
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  Speaker 3: what do you make of the offensive line? Because here's
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  Speaker 3: what's funny. It doesn't feel like outside of Quinn Minors,
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  Speaker 3: anybody is like elite, elite level, you know, like Garrett
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  Speaker 3: Bulls is good, Mike McGlinchey is good. They aren't Trent
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  Speaker 3: Williams or Pansa will or anything like that, but they're good.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of them overall?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I think in the league, if you
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  Speaker 1: talk to personnel people, Garrett Bowles is like elite one
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  Speaker 1: a type. You know that there's just the very next
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  Speaker 1: layer beneath the you know, the top two or three
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  Speaker 1: because his his footwork, and it's never been probably appreciated
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  Speaker 1: because he had such penalty issues when he started that
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  Speaker 1: that people can't sort of forget some of that. But
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  Speaker 1: even then, his footwork is rare, his athleticism is rare,
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  Speaker 1: and Garrett has you know, you have to give him credit.
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  Speaker 1: He has stayed more healthy than an awful lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys with his snap count and he doesn't even miss practice,
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  Speaker 1: you know, really, so I think he and Minards are
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  Speaker 1: probably your two you know, your anchors in there and
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  Speaker 1: allow you to do some things.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I think people personnel people have their eye on with Glinchy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how how will he age through this contract
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  Speaker 1: and how will that look two years from now or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the issue is they don't really have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of depth. You know, I'm not sure they're
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  Speaker 1: in a position right now. If two of those guys
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  Speaker 1: were hurt in the same week, what kind of adjustments
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  Speaker 1: would you be able to make. And you know, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a difficulty everybody has in the free
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  Speaker 1: agency era. But I think it's it's pretty you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be attention worthy here, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: interested in camp to see how some of those you know,
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  Speaker 1: other guys on the depth chart look. You know, would
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  Speaker 1: they be ready to go right now if they had to?
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Minors is an all pro level guy,
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  Speaker 1: Bulls is close, and everybody else's is, you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of the better guys at their position in the league.
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  Speaker 1: So they they invested a lot. You know, they have
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  Speaker 1: the most expensive line in the league. I believe. Still
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  Speaker 1: they put their money there and they've gotten the results.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Jeff, the Cardinals and Broncos were playing that preseason
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  Speaker 5: game in Denver that they're going to do joint practices.
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  Speaker 2: Correct here? Is that what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I've been told at least one. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: there will be more than one, but it may be
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  Speaker 1: like Green Bay last year they only came in for
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  Speaker 1: one day and then played. Okay, do we know where
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna have They're gonna have joint practices with San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco before that preseason opener in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: Okay too, so they'll be out of town for that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, and I know training camp is still a
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  Speaker 5: ways off. Where are they going to put fans, there's
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  Speaker 5: a construction anywhere there.
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  Speaker 1: Now you look around and you wonder where the where
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  Speaker 1: the spot is that I think to me that there
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  Speaker 1: might be room at the end of the field for
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  Speaker 1: some bleachers. I think it will be limited attendance, uh,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they're going to try very hard to
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  Speaker 1: have some people in there with the bleachers at the
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  Speaker 1: sort of the the south end of the of the fields.
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  Speaker 2: They tore that stuff up quick. Man.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, listen, man, they're they're digging holes fast and they're
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  Speaker 4: putting stuff up fast over there.
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  Speaker 1: Now that the steel is up, the skeleton is up
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  Speaker 1: with the new building, it's now it's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff you got to do to to fill
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  Speaker 1: it in. But for fans, camp isn't going to look
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  Speaker 1: normal until the new buildings open and the the old
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  Speaker 1: building has been removed and the and the hill added back.
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  Speaker 1: Because they saved the dirt from the hole. They essentially
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  Speaker 1: bought the lot next door to keep the dirt that
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  Speaker 1: they don't the huge hole out of it, And that's
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  Speaker 1: what they're gonna make that's what they're gonna make the
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  Speaker 1: burn out of in the future.
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  Speaker 2: How do you know all this stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I check things out. I'm not just out there
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  Speaker 1: on vacation point.
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  Speaker 2: I just never it never occurred to me him and
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  Speaker 2: saved the dirt.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, speaking of what do you think Sean Payton's reaction
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: would be if he hired or.
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  Speaker 1: I asked another question? There'd probably be a lot of strong.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, no sign somebody in the off season like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know and Evan Ingram, and Ingram goes, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not showing up to these little mini camp things.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I'll wait until training camp. And then there's a video
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: that emerges of him on a boat with Cardi B partying.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think his reaction to that would be?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it would be spectacular for the player.
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  Speaker 1: That's I could just leave it at that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he would blow his stag.
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  Speaker 5: I wish we had radio OTAs so I can go
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  Speaker 5: off party with Cardi B.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, victs need to be here right right?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, voluntary, voluntary radio days, babe.
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  Speaker 2: Every day is voluntary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff, I'm afraid. I'm afraid if I don't show up,
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  Speaker 1: they'll get just get somebody else. So I just keep
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: showing up.
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  Speaker 3: Spot That's all right, Jeff Legwall ESPN dot com always
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  Speaker 3: appreciated legging.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: You can't make the club and the tub. Jeff, you
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  Speaker 2: do a great job.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: See you have foul any buddy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwall of All Conversations with Leg Year brought to
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  Speaker 3: you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers ib e
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  Speaker 3: W Local sixty eight. Start with the job and with
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  Speaker 3: the career.