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Breaking Down the Big Week 8 Games · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky and Baldy with
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Baldy, where the heck.
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  Speaker 2: Is my Baldy Breakdown T shirt?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 2: You know my address?
• 0:15
  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, I mean, I guess I got to
• 0:17
  Speaker 4: get these out before the holiday season begins. We got
• 0:19
  Speaker 4: I gave you.
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  Speaker 2: Your suits back. What do you want from me?
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  Speaker 3: At least three of Baldy's like Neeman Marcus nice suits
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  Speaker 3: that when I.
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  Speaker 2: Cleaned out my locker. This is a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Somehow they got put in my locker and it didn't
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  Speaker 3: take me on to realize they don't fit me, and
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: so yeah, they just hung in my locker. And so
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: then it's like a like in this like a stealth bomber,
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: like I snuck into the locker room one day and
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  Speaker 3: just put those suits right back in his in his locker.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm glad you saved them, DJ, because they were
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  Speaker 4: all layaway.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, we got Baldi's got a sick Baldy Breakdown T shirts.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: We got to get those distributed.
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  Speaker 3: But let's jump into some games here, guys and knock
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  Speaker 3: some of these things out, Baldy. Let's start first of all,
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  Speaker 3: the Sunday nighter. I mean, I watched the first part
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  Speaker 3: of this game and you thought, Okay, yeah, Pittsburgh, Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's gonna they're gonna hold onto this division. You know,
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: it's kind of been gift wrap form. They're not gonna
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  Speaker 3: blow it there in good spot here and then man,
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: you go to the bathroom and come back and like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, the defense is rud it's ugly ahead
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  Speaker 3: once again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they can't tackle. I mean it's been a
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  Speaker 4: problem now. I mean Tucker Kraft got one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: thirty one yards after you know, if it was one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and forty three yards, you know, after he caught
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  Speaker 4: the ball like it was one big play after another.
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  Speaker 4: And they were like simple flat routes. It's not like
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  Speaker 4: they throw the ball down the field. They're throwing a
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  Speaker 4: five yard flat route and nobody can tackle them. You
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  Speaker 4: can't get them into the ground. It was an issue
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  Speaker 4: against Cincinnati the last time they played. So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: but Jordan Love played, I mean, he played great. They
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  Speaker 4: protected very well. I mean, he didn't hear TJ's name
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  Speaker 4: or high Smith or her, but you hear anybody, Like
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  Speaker 4: they got the shots down to Justin Watson, they got
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  Speaker 4: their chunk yards and then they finished. They finished, you
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  Speaker 4: know when they had to finish, and it was an
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  Speaker 4: impressive second half offensively, and then Micah in the group,
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  Speaker 4: you know they got after like the one thing about
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  Speaker 4: Aaron and it happened last year. He's just in a
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  Speaker 4: hurry to get rid of the ball, so he's not
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  Speaker 4: gonna get big chunk plays. And once you get it
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  Speaker 4: out quick, and if he's got to hold it and
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  Speaker 4: Mike is there, Rashaun Gary, like, once they start chasing them,
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  Speaker 4: I mean you can basically say, okay, you know it's
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  Speaker 4: either going to be basically no yards or a throwaway.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of how the offense just stalled in
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  Speaker 4: the second half.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting when you talk about both defenses.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about Pittsburgh's first Mike Tomlin in the off
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  Speaker 1: season when the preseason was really adamant about we got
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  Speaker 1: these guys so we could lock up and play Manda
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  Speaker 1: Man and I am a Manda Man fan, but we
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: know in Man de Mand you have more explosive plays
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  Speaker 1: that you can give up because in space, one on
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  Speaker 1: one tackling is coveted at a premium, and if you
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  Speaker 1: don't get guys down, you see the big plays. And
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  Speaker 1: when I'm really looking at the stiller is is not
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  Speaker 1: only the tackling, but it's being able to be sticky
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  Speaker 1: with your guys down the field. You know, they have
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  Speaker 1: all these guys that they brought in. They thought they
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  Speaker 1: were going to have a shut them down defense, and
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing big play after big play, which is a problem. Conversely,
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  Speaker 1: the Green May Packers want to play visit and break.
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  Speaker 1: They want to keep the ball in front. They last
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  Speaker 1: year they wanted to bring zone pressure. But when you
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  Speaker 1: go and get a guy like Micah to go with
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  Speaker 1: Rashan Gary and some of the other guys they have
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  Speaker 1: up front, now you can have a four man rush,
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  Speaker 1: leave seven in coverage and just sit and zone and
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  Speaker 1: wait and watch. And when you have Aaron Rodgers who
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  Speaker 1: fears the pass rush with Michael Parson, those guys winning
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  Speaker 1: at one on ones, it is problematic because they can
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  Speaker 1: tell wait everything that you want to do without really
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  Speaker 1: putting their defense air wrists.
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  Speaker 3: They're three losses thirty one points, thirty three points thirty
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  Speaker 3: five points.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is not like, ah, the defense is
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  Speaker 2: falling off.
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  Speaker 3: This is like bad, bad and Baldi and I we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about this morning, Buck and talking about the tackling,
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  Speaker 3: and so I went into watch it. Okay, let's see
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  Speaker 3: who the culprit is. Well, man, there's a blood on
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people's hands. I mean, it is an
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  Speaker 3: equal opportunity. Everyone's missing tackles in coverage. Thornhill's missing tackles,
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  Speaker 3: Porter's missing tackles, that you name it, across the board.
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  Speaker 2: They could not tackle.
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  Speaker 3: And you guys are right literally just dumping the ball
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  Speaker 3: on the flat to this fricking tight end craft. They
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  Speaker 3: cannot get him on the ground, right, you could tackle him.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean that's that's a major, major, major problem.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's getting better anytime soon.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, the one on one. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: even if you go back to the Cincinnati game on
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  Speaker 4: Thursday night, I mean, you know they tried to play
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  Speaker 4: man coverage Chase.
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  Speaker 2: There's nobody in the picture with Chase from last week.
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  Speaker 3: You could freeze it on the All twenty two and
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  Speaker 3: there's he's the only body in the frame.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody it was Ramsey, it was you know, Sleigh, it
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  Speaker 4: was like you know Porter, they all lined up and
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  Speaker 4: he got beat and so you thought, okay, well, you
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  Speaker 4: know Green Bay doesn't have the same firepower. But you
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  Speaker 4: know they went play action, you know under center, play action,
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  Speaker 4: max protect. They ran their speedo routes down there. Watching
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  Speaker 4: got two big plays. Dob's gonna cut, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they did what they wanted to do offensively in the
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  Speaker 4: second half, and Pittsburgh they could not play catch up
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  Speaker 4: once they lost that lead.
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  Speaker 3: One thing I'll just add and we'll move on to
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  Speaker 3: the next game. If you're going to try and find
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  Speaker 3: some positive for Pittsburgh. Here, Roman Wilson's showing signs the
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  Speaker 3: last few weeks, and he did some nice things in
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  Speaker 3: this game. End up with four seventy four and a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of quick hitters as you're referencing quick outs,
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  Speaker 3: but then you see, you know, hit a deep ball.
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  Speaker 3: He's open for ten seconds on the touchdown of Aaron
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  Speaker 3: just kind of took a while to get to him
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  Speaker 3: in the back of the end line there. But he's
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  Speaker 3: somebody who can give you some run after catch. He
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  Speaker 3: can give you, you know, some stuff down the field
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  Speaker 3: as well, So that was, you know, trying to find
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  Speaker 3: somebody to go pair up with DK. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: at least a positive from the Pittsburgh side of things.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say, let's buck, let's get to uh Man. I
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  Speaker 3: think I think the most impressive win of the weekend
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  Speaker 3: and that was Denver and what they did to Dallas
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  Speaker 3: forty four to twenty four just dismantled the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 5: Man, this mantle of defense can't stop the run or pass.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they just had to figure out what they
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: wanted to do and how they wanted to attack. But
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  Speaker 1: they give Sean Payton credit won they need to always
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: just play in their throwback uniforms. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: they would ever go back to their regular uniforms. The
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  Speaker 1: throwbacks are classic. It reminded me of being a kid
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  Speaker 1: watching Rick upchurch return punts come home from church, So
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  Speaker 1: I think they need to stay with that. But in
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  Speaker 1: watching the way they're able to run the football effectively.
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  Speaker 5: JK.
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  Speaker 1: Dobbins, R. J. Harvey getting busy. Bo Nick's having a
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  Speaker 1: terrific game, finding his rhythm. This is the offense that
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton wants because it perfectly compliments how they played
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  Speaker 1: that suffocating defense on the other side.
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  Speaker 4: Chee Payton like he's ruthless man. You know, the Cowboys
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  Speaker 4: line up a free agent, you know Warner out there.
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  Speaker 4: They I mean they they lined they took turns lining
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  Speaker 4: up on them, including Pat Brian catches his first touchdown
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  Speaker 4: pass the season right before the end of the half.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they went right after him, like every single guy,
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  Speaker 4: whether Troy Franklin or you know, Pat Bryan or they
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  Speaker 4: just abused him. They put them on the other side
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  Speaker 4: of the field after you know, the first half, it
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  Speaker 4: didn't make any difference. They found him and they just
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  Speaker 4: exploited it. But you know, the Cowboys don't you know,
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  Speaker 4: they don't really do anything well defensively, Like they don't
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  Speaker 4: even know, like just setting a simple edge so that
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  Speaker 4: every back that carries the ballge whether it's JK or RJ.
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  Speaker 4: They're not just like hitting the corners like these soft edges,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and then then it's just the run fits
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  Speaker 4: like nothing looks like it's being worked on on that side.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I know they've got a bunch of young
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  Speaker 4: guys playing. I get that, but still like they can't
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  Speaker 4: do the basics right now, just playing gap defense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes back to you know, Bucky and I
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  Speaker 3: are up there at camp together Baldy and just watching
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  Speaker 3: the Rams carve them up like a turkey, and it
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, the Rams passing offense is really really good,
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  Speaker 3: or this secondary has got major major concerns for the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: Turns out a little bit of both, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: you get right down to it. But I want to
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  Speaker 3: touch on two things. One, the two young guys that
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  Speaker 3: stood out r J. Harvey, there's so much attention. We
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  Speaker 3: talked about it all in the lead up to the
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  Speaker 3: draft that Sean Payton used the term joker.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted to find his joker.
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  Speaker 3: He's always worked inside out in New Orleans, whether it
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  Speaker 3: was the back, the tight ends, the slot receivers, They've
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  Speaker 3: always kind of liked to work in that portion of
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  Speaker 3: the field. He wanted a mismatch player. And I saw
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: a video of the day with Breeze and asked him
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  Speaker 3: who's the best weapon that he's ever played with, and
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  Speaker 3: he said scrolls because.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the matchups. Nobody can cover that guy.
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  Speaker 3: And now you've got somebody who's got the juice and
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  Speaker 3: the burst and RJ Harvey, they're going to figure out
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  Speaker 3: more ways to unlock him. But seeing him get loose
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: a little bit, popping a run on a toss. He
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  Speaker 3: had seven for forty six, two touchdowns, So that's their joker.
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  Speaker 3: Then Troy Franklin, you mentioned his name briefly, Baldy going
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: through his stuff just he's playing really good in instinctive,
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  Speaker 3: in space, like for a guy who was a speed
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  Speaker 3: guy coming out, he's figuring out ways to kind of
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: work in soft spots and zones. And when he goes
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: from the bunch formation across the four men and then
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  Speaker 3: he rounds about twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: Yards down the field into the end zone and never stopped.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody there, Yeah, nobody and nobody there, nobody there to
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  Speaker 3: touch him. That's why I just wrote down. I just
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  Speaker 3: wrote on my notes. I've got a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 3: where he just kind of I don't label him as routes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just like, there's just kind of a It was
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  Speaker 3: Mike Leach. Mike Leach's offense which was always just go grass, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: go grab grass. Just find out where there's some open
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  Speaker 3: space and go grab it. But that that's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: So I went back and pulled up my Troy Franklin note,
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  Speaker 3: So he was coming out he was six oh one
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: seven so just under six two one hundred and seventy
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: six pounds, so rail Finn ran four four to one
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  Speaker 3: uh and my notes on him, tall, lean, explosive, he
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: can win against press with quicks. He's sudden, he's clean
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: out of brakes, a lot of fades, tracks, the ball easy,
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  Speaker 3: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of home runs, had some drop drops in traffic.
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  Speaker 3: But really, you know, we talk about like the we
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  Speaker 3: used to talk up the blood area like, you know,
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: do you work in the blood area the field? That's
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  Speaker 3: not really what you You don't really need him to
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  Speaker 3: do that. He did not run in full speed and anybody.
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  Speaker 3: So he's able to get the ball vertically down the field.
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  Speaker 3: But I think Sean Payton and their group give him credit.
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  Speaker 3: They've got him to get a really good feel for
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  Speaker 3: working in some of these soft spots.
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  Speaker 4: Baldly Well, the soft spots were easy to find because.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're plentiful. Yeah, I mean there's a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of soft spots. DJ. But you know the touchdown
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  Speaker 4: that you were referenced here to Troy Franklin, like the
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  Speaker 4: Cowboys came Mark hespell Off off the edge the five
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  Speaker 4: band rushed like literally bow Nicks could have checked his
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  Speaker 4: snapchat right there, like you know, just seeing you like okay,
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  Speaker 4: like he had all day for that thing that it
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: takes time. That's a route that too. Who used to
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  Speaker 4: throw to Tyreek Hill, you know, and you need time
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  Speaker 4: for that thing to go. And literally, I mean he
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: he double pumped, he hitched. He had all kinds of
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: time to make those So he dropped back twenty nine times,
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  Speaker 4: no sacks, one quarterback hit Like basically his uniform was
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  Speaker 4: just as clean at the end of the game as
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: it was to start the game.
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you both this and Buck hit
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  Speaker 3: it and then Baldy fall. But I saw Sean Payton
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: after the game. I saw some of his sound and
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: he said, you know, they really challenged their defense, that
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: this was going to be a good offense that they
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: were going up against. And he said, you know, I thought,
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  Speaker 3: I thought our defense got the better of their offense.
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  Speaker 3: And he goes then, of course on the other side,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't even close like that. That was
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  Speaker 3: how like borderline arrogant that he talked about what they
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: did to the Cowboy defense. But I want to ask you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: you both played in the league, and I know that
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: some of the coaches you played for, but it seems
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  Speaker 3: to me Sean Payton is one of the most confident
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  Speaker 3: borderline cockey coaches in this league. And does that permeate
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  Speaker 3: through your team when the guy at the very top
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  Speaker 3: is that confident book?
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  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I would say yes.
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  Speaker 1: And I would say the most confident coach that I
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  Speaker 1: ever played for was Marty Schottenheimer.
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  Speaker 5: There were times that he would.
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  Speaker 1: Just stand up a matter of fact, we say we're
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: going to beat this team. We're gonna whoop them doing X,
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  Speaker 1: Y and Z. And depending on the maturity of your team,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: some teams can't handle getting the information being like, oh okay,
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  Speaker 1: coach says, we got it. We just need to follow
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  Speaker 1: the plan and this is what is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: And I think for Sean, I think Sean knows that
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  Speaker 1: the storm that's coming, and the storm is going to
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  Speaker 1: be the Kan City Chiefs and they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to knock off to Can City Chiefs one or two
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  Speaker 1: times to be able to secure a division, and that
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  Speaker 1: is going to require an unbelievable level of confidence for
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  Speaker 1: a team that still is fairly young on both sides.
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  Speaker 5: Of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's trying to convey that to get them
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  Speaker 1: to step into that confidence that hey man, we're one
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  Speaker 1: of the heavyweights in AFC.
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  Speaker 3: Who was the most confident coach you played for?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean Landry was confident because we were so
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  Speaker 4: well prepared. So I mean, but you know he also
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: wore us out with a lot like Marty did you
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: know for all those years. I mean, they just Wearry
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: out with the meetings and reparation. Eventually, you know, players
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  Speaker 4: just want to go play, you know. I mean you can't.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: You can't like cover every single stone, uncover every stone.
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  Speaker 4: But that's how Landry was. So we we you know,
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  Speaker 4: we were very well prepared for what we were going
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  Speaker 4: to do, and but he would out the plan every Wednesday.
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: You know, this is what we need to do this
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  Speaker 4: week to win this game. And you know, and so
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  Speaker 4: like the plan was set on Wednesday and then you
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  Speaker 4: just perfected the plan all week long.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can tell they've got a very confident team
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  Speaker 3: that's playing really well both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: They're in Denver.
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  Speaker 4: But what's interesting about that game though, to me, DJ
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  Speaker 4: was Courtland Sutton is by far the number one receiver.
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  Speaker 4: He was like a decoy all day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't lead him exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough though. You got to pick between the other
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  Speaker 3: three guys that are wide open that that that can
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: be challenge for bocks a ball that you were at
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: the Giant Philly game there, So I'll let you take
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  Speaker 3: the lead here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean the second place Aque went sixty five. Now,
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: the longest run before that run all year long was
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: eighteen yards and and so you know, we were you know,
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: they blocked it. It was a perfectly blocked run, including
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: DeVante Smith gets a good block on the corner. You know,
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: Landon Dickerson looked healthy. But you know, they got to
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: they unleashed the running game. It was like it like
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: they had never done all year. But I remember talking
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: to Patula before the game and I was just asking
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: him about, you know, where's your toss sweeps, where's your
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: pinning pools? And boy, they ran them right, and they
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: ran them left, and you know, and they got some
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: good blocks on the outside, and you know, they they
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: turned to lose tank. Bigsby had one hundred and sat one.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: They even play sake one this you know, this fourth quarter.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, he could have had two hundred yards rushing,
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: so you know, they uncorked that. But it's it's really
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: the evolution of this offense. It started in Minnesota with
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: play action passes with you know, Jalen under center getting
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: some shots. They continued that. Then you got the pinning
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: pool and the run game and here they are going
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: to the bye week at six and two, and it's
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: a tough schedule coming out, but you could see how
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: this thing is just gradually coming together and they're going
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: to be a juggernaut, you know, come the second half
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: of the season.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: What's Jurgens? What's Jurgens at us? Is he is he?
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: How long is he out?
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Well? I don't know how long he is out, but
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: I'll say this this.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: Brett Toath, he pulled his butt off in this game.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Now they have to Saque has to. He almost has
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: to push him in the back a little bit because
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: he's kind of waiting for him on some of those things.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: But they were moving him all over the place. And
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: that's why I'm saying that that got the run game going.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: And I thought he.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Played well, But then I can also look at it
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: and say Jurgens is just so much quicker than him
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: that I think that stuff some of those might even
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: pop evy.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, durgons can make all those blocks that we
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: saw Toat, But you know he's there. You know, he'd
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: been a swing guard center and so he played some guard.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: But I thought his best position. He's got really strong hands.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: And I remember I was going into the tunnel after
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: kind of doing a walk before the game, at the
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: beginning of the beginning of the walk, and I see
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Stout down there and he's yelling. He's like, get those
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: young pastors out here, like we got to go to work.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: And so Toat is one of those guys out of here.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: He loves working those guys out before the game. But
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: he played really well. He's he's a good young player.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Man boy.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: They got to ask you this because there's been so
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: much made not only about the Eagles doing this, but
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: more teams going under center, not only for the play
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: action benefits, but how does it benefit the ring game?
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, because you don't know if it's going
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: to be a runner pass and if you're going to
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: hand it off. I think Saquan likes being eight yards deep, Bucky,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: like it just gives him a little bit more vision
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: for cutback runs and things like that. So it's a
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: good change rather than just being a point of entry
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: back out of the shotgun. So I think it's good
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: for the back and then you know, when he does
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: get that, he's got a little better head of steam coming,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: you know, to hit the hole a little bit harder,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: a little bit faster than normal. And then I think
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: that the play action pass off it right there. It
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: just allows the routes to get deeper down the field,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: and you know, you can set your protections, whether it's
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: max protection or chipping off the edges so that the
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: quarterback can kind of set and you know, really get
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: a pretty good aerial view down the field.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Baldy, with the running backs you played with, I gotta
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: believe stylistically, everybody's kind of their own style. But I
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: was watching going through Barkley and Bigsby, and I thought
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Barkley kind of stayed true to the to the call,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: pressing it and then he even cut back was there.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: It was there, And I'm watching Bigsby and I'm like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: he's just a pure daylight runner. I don't know where
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: that wherever it's designed, wherever he sees or feels daylight,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: he will abandon that and go find daylight. As an
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: offensive line, I mean they're both went over one hundred yards.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: They're more successful in this game. But it is you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: is it interesting just blocking for different guys how they
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: hit things a little different?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: No, it is different. It's different. Like you know, Bigsby
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: is he's kind of like a more like Gamewell's a
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: good player and Gamewell was that role for the last
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: four years. He's doing that in Pittsburgh now. But this
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: guy has I think he's he's more of a bowling
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: ball than Gainwell. He's more powerful and so, but he
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: does explode out of his well, you know Bucky, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: just down in Jacksville, but you know, he does explode.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: He had a couple kick off returns as well. But
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: you know when he sees the daylight now he can
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: he gets to it quickly.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say the biggest thing for him down
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, he had a hard time not being annointed
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the number one gal and I think it's very clear
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: for him in Philadelphia to know, I'm not going to
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: be the number one with Saquon Barkley there. So he's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: probably more accepting of the role as the number two.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But I can't tell you this. He gives you a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: power back. He's physical and when he is dialed in
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and really taking care of the ball.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: He's a guy that can be a one A one
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: B type player.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And the Eagles being able to bring him in it
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: allows them not have to change their offense when they
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: want to go downhill, smash mouth Barkley, Bixby, Barkley, Bigsby.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to help Saquon Barkley more. They
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: have a guy that is a starting caliber running back
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: behind him instead of the drastic drop off that they
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: used to have with a change of pace back.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I'll say this about Jalen in the last two games now,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: he's got nine incompletions in seven touchdowns. Like people can
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: they can debate, you know what ranking he is and
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks like. All the guy does is he takes care
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: of the football and he wins a lot of football games.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: And that's all he's ever done. And people might not
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: like his style, might not look like some of the
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: gun slingers in this league, but man, that guy is
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: he's he's he's hard to knock out.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Right now, I think they've kind of mastered and Sirianni,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I give him a lot of credit for this. They've
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: kind of mastered understand the difference between the regular season
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: and the postseason. The regular seasons about your floor. It's
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: don't make don't make mistakes, and play it that consist.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: You'll win a lot of games by not giving games
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: away and rate yourself. Now you get in the postseason,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: there's going to be times where Jalen's goa to throw
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: it more. You got to be more aggressive, and you've
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: got to play it a little bit differently, which they've
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: proven they can do that. But I think they've got
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: a pretty good understanding of how to handle you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: talk about baseball like you had handle the one sixty
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: two and then there's October. Those are two different sports
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: to some degree. I think at the quarterback position, I
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: think there's something to that as well. They've done a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: nice job with that. Let's say, quick break, we come back,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: We'll not got a couple more games, all right, Buck,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: This one I think is the I'll say the surprise.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: If Denver was the most impressive win of the week,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: this clearly was a surprise to me and not necessarily
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: even that the Jets beat the Cincinnati Bengals, but the
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: fact that the Jets hung thirty nine on the board
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: with what we'd seen from their offense, that was a
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: heck of a first win there for Aaron Glenn.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look a great first win. And I'll say this
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: about the Jets, like coming in they had four games
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: where they lost, they were within a score. A couple
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of those were two point games that they lost. And
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: so even though the sky was seemingly falling in New York,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: if you really did a deep dive in terms of
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: how they were playing, it wasn't as bad as it appeared.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati was like the perfect opponent for them because their
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: defense is awful and their defense has been trash. And
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: so at a time when your much milid quarterback was desperate,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: didn't even know if he was going to start, Rod
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Taylor was ruled out, he found a way to have
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: some confidence, made a couple of plays, they got the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: ball the Brisaw's hands, and then they just made enough
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: plays to win a game. Now, what does this do
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: for them beyond that, I don't know, but I think
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it speaks a little bit about the resilience of some
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of the players.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: But more about the Cincinnati Bengals. What are we doing?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: They did a really good defensive coordinator walk out the door,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and Al Golden is good. But man, they put a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: lot of blame on lou An Arumo, and all I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: do is I look over at Indianapolis and they are
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: bawling out on defense.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I watched this game. I had to do some breakdowns
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: for the Jets. They've ran the ball thirty seven times
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: for two hundred and fifty four yards, by far, the
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: most all year. And this is Isaiah I don't know
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: what you had on Isaiah Davis DJ coming out of
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: South Dakosta State. Yeah, I mean that guy had the
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: longest play from scrimmage for the Jets this year. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: mean it was a weak side slant. He went fifty
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and he hit a burst. I didn't know we had
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: that burst, but he went fifty and then a couple
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: plays later, breeze halls. I got my I could do
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: that too, and he went for thirty five, and so
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I thought they you know, they were down fifteen late
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: in the third quarter, they're down fourteen in the fourth quarter,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: and they dang at that defense, and good luck, you know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: telling me who their starters are the guys that are
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: on the field in that game, because you got Azariah
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Thomas out there, you got Marinoa out there, you got
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys that you know, I don't think
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: people know who they are. But they got two stops
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: at the end of the game. They got the ball
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: back to the offense, you know. I mean that's Joe
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Flacco and Jamar and t you know, the whole group
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: out there, and they made two stops to go down
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: there and do it. They got their two point conversions.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Breece popped a twenty seven yard touchdown run to cut
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: it to you know, one touchdown. And you know, I
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: don't know really who some of these receivers are. Tyler
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Smith and you know some of these guys that they
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: had out there. But I mean Justin hit him on
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: in stride a couple of times.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Man, I gotta find what year this is, because now
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: it's gonna bug me because I know I've got him here.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: What Isaiah, it's Isaiah Davis, right.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Davis. He was He came out with Rayln Allen,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: so he was last.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Four, twenty four, twenty four, all right, Now, now I'm
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: gonna find him, right now I'm thinking up here.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: You might have been third round, third or fourth round DJ.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah Davis. Right here, here we go.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Uh six oh two, two hundred and eighteen pounds, ran
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: four five seven Uh uh choppy feet, lateral quicks. They
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: use him in some wildcat stuff in the red zone.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Can bounce off tackles, runs a little high, but he'll
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: step through, attacking smother linebackers and pass pro So that was, uh,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that was some of my notes on damn.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: They called a play on a shallow cross for him
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: on like third and seven, like one of those you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: you know crossers like two from one st one from
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: the other and you know, just ran through some traffic.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: They called to play for the guy, you know on
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the spot. I'm like, all right, good call.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You know, you know we used to call it. We
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: used to call that. Uh, we used to call that bopper.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: So you'd have like the backs going opposite, so you'd
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: have like a back or a tight end, a tight
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: end in a back, and so they'd be going like this,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: so you'd read it. You'd have a little sit route
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: over the middle of the field bald. Then it was
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: just hey, if it's zone, I'm gonna just take the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: whoever's sitting down here, and if it's man, you're gonna
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: get a little bit of a rub there. I missed
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: more than my fair share of that back, just wide
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: open out there in a flat, simple simple throw. Hey,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: either one, raise your hand if you want to take
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: this one, though, how do you how do you go
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: in this ballgame and have one quarterback hit when you're
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals. They touched the quarterback one time in
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: this game. I know we've talked about the coordinator thing.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I know we've talked about Okay, we've got some roster stuff,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: but that almost speaks to me like it's a cultural
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: issue a little bit like how hard are you guys playing.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I don't care who you got up there, you got
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to be able touch the quarterback more than once.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: They got two rookie linebackers in there right now. Trey Henderson,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: if he played, nobody you would not know that he played.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: He was out there, but I mean he had no
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: impact whatsoever. I mean, everybody had been beating for Shano
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, like he's really struggled out
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: there in pass protection, but he didn't have any problem
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: locking guys up and you know, I thought the they
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: went max they maxed it up a little bit. That
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: kind of helped. But I mean, you didn't see you
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: didn't see any of those guys make and really any
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: kind of blitzes or anything where you know, just getting
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: some speed to the quarterback just a free hitter. You
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: didn't see any kind of overloads like that. But maybe
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: they're sitting with a fourteen fifteen point lead and in
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: the third quarter thing and we'll just keep it in
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: front of us and you know, we'll just rush forward.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was part of the idea until you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: until it was too late.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But in that even in that, they don't play
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like they need to play. In a division that is
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: known for being rough and rugged, the Bengals don't necessarily
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: bring that all the time and that effort, that energy,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and I know we eventually talked about Baltimore it is
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the day to more. But that has to be there
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: when you're in these critical situations. They're not at a
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: point where they can take a game off and say,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: oh we still go go to the playoffs. So the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: urgency has to be there, particularly on the defense that's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: playing against a very a struggling quarterback.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: You got to get after.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I'll give it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I'll give the fullback who is it Beck for nice
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: blocks in that game too, on some of those big runs.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I thought they're tight ends hung in there and blocked
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: pretty well.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: We had talked about, you know, the half back pass
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Bries Hall to Mason Taylor. I mean, that was that
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: was too.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Easy of a joke, because when the owner comes out
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: and says, we can't complete a pass, and then here's
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Brice Hall throwing a touchdown to win you.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: It was along the uglier passes I've seen, but he
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: gave Mason Taylor a chance.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: He finished it too. All right, let's get one more game.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: We'll send Baldy on his way here Chicago Baltimore again. Baldi,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: we were chatting this morning. I we can go wherever
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: you want to go. We can go good Baltimore defense,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: we can go bad Bears. Quarterback play wherever you want
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'll start like Snoop puntley Man. Snoop played great,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: you know, and me and he had ten really good
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: throws in that game, and he got it through all
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: the wide receivers. They they kind of pulled out you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: like Keaton Mitchell was kind of a forgotten guy all
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: year long. WI He's either nobody knows how fast he
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: is because they take the wrong angles, but he turns
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: the corner three different times in that game, one for
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: twenty five yards, pops a run on the outside. Then
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you know, you got Charlie Kohlar, who's doing the old
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: you know, just sneaking across the formation and a wide
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: opening the end zone. And then you got Nuke, who
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: basically has been a forgotten guy. But on third and
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: seven with a one score game, they throw back shoulder
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: to Nuke and he comes up with a big play
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: to extend the drive and play keep away from Chicago.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: I thought that was all really impressive. And then they
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: blitzed the hell out of Caleb. I mean, like, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: whether it was rokwand or whether it was Hamilton, Like
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: they got after pretty good, you know, and because even
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Mike Green got his first. But I thought they got
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: after Kale pretty good and never really let them get comfortable.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I liked about the Baltimore Ravens is
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: they got back to business in terms of who they are.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And I always feel like there are certain franchises that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: when they're back into a corner, they go back to
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the identity that's been long established in their franchise. They
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: ran the football, they played rough and rugged defense, they
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: got after it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: It appeared to the defensive plan.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Was very simple, so they could get back to playing
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: fast and physical, and I love that. The only question
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that I ever have about Baltimore Ravens is why would
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you go get a backup quarterback that stylistically is so different.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Than we're starting quarterbacks?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Because then you see Snoop Puntley playing the offense that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: was originally built for Lamar Jackson, and the offense continues
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to roll. I just wonder what the thought process was,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: because it never really, it never really logically fit why
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Cooper Rush would be the backup to Lamar Jackson when
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Snoop Unley and other athletic quarterbacks been serviceable fits behind him.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I think it's a great point. I haven't really people
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: heard people talk much about it either. I think it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: an excellent point. And two things from me on this.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Number One, I don't think you can overstate how important
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: it was on the first drive to get a stop
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  Speaker 3: because Chicago moved right down the field and that's Ben Johnson,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: that is his mo man. They come out the gates
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: wherever he is, They come out the gates smoking, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: you got a Ravens defense. It's lacking in confidence. You
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: get a lot of pieces back. Roquan being back in
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: there was huge. We'll get to that. But for them
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: to march right down the field and then I believe
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Chicago had a penalty inside the ten that maybe bumped
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: them back a little bit.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: They ended up getting that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I think that's where they got the sack and they
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and they get a stop on that first series force
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: of three. So that was huge to me. It was
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: just kind of like, Okay, it's not a here we
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: go again. We can't stop anybody. Take the air out
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: of the of the balloon, so to speak. And then
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Rokuan Baldi we you know, we were talking about this morning.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: That was one of the more fun watches for me
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: this morning was going through and watching what he did.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I know you got a chance to see him too,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: but he's he is.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: A you know we talk about force multipliers like, it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: not only what he does, it's what he brings.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: But it was impressive.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he let him out. He let him up pretty good.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: That had been a pretty good running attack. They popped
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: a couple runs, but you know, Manong Guy and DeAndre Swift,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: there wasn't the lanes that they had been getting the
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: last two games. When Swift went over one hundred yards
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: and both previous games, I thought the play of the
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: game was was Nate Wiggins, though, I mean they only
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: have two interceptions all year. Wiggins has it. It's a
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: dig route to Doomsay and Caleb's looking at him all
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: the way. He's got good time and Wiggins, I mean
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: he I don't know what he ran.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Did he want to two?
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you see too, because he's done his upfield shoulder
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: buck and he's trailing him and then you just see
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: this burst and he runs right in front of a
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Doomsay and that set him up for you know, it
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: was a one score game. It's a second down play.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: You can stop him right there in Chicago's going to
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: get good field positioning twenty three sixteen and that really
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: turned the whole game around right there. Or two eight,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: well too eight That looked for to eight.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And and here's the thing, because normally you end up
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: being critical to the wide receiver for drifting up the field.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: But I can't even say that they ran a bad watch.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: It was nice and flat. It was a great play
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: by Nate Wiggins to do it. And even though people
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: have talked about Caleb and the throw, the throw wasn't
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: off the mark. I felt like it was a better
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: play than it was, just a great play by Nate Wiggins.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you could. I mean you're talking about
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: a maybe a foot could have been a foot more
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: out in front. But I think he gets it either way.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Because Wiggins was tracking it so well, he had to
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: back in the flat.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: He could have taken it. I can see.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Just to me, we always talk about this Baldy Bucky,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: and I always go back to what the coach that
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I had would always take the quarterbacks before the game.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: We'd always walk the field, and so we'd always say, like, okay,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: we'll start. We're starting our own like five. Okay, we
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: got a possession that starts here. The first thing is
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: we're getting the first down. To help the punter, we're
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: extra cautious with the ball. He kind of moved out. Okay,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: we're in the middle of the field. We might be
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: thinking about a shot. Okay, now, we're in here, don't
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: don't take a sack. Well, weird field will range like that,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: just like a situation. I'm hoping that Caleb, the more
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: he's in these situations, he's going to realize, Okay, like,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: what's a one score game. We got a chance to
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: go down and get the league. One thing we got
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: to do is we gotta get a first down before
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: we get a touchdown. Let's not get greed. I thought
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: he was pressing, pushing that ball a little bit instead
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: of just taking the back. Let's get a first down,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like that, I think that
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I'm hopeful because some of this stuff keeps popping.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Up with him.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that it's just an experienced thing and he's gonna,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you know, he's going to kind of learn and grow
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: from it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Now. You see that the talent does show, like some
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: of the throws he made getting out of a jam
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: and on the run like you I mean, and some
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: of his movement is like crazy, but it's just not
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Sometimes just the easy throws he makes it difficult.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah he had, he had a deep ball he missed.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: He had.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look there's there are you can cut up ten
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: plays and show ten huge throws, big time throws. But
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: then there's just some of those layups you just want
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: to see him make it, including towards the end of
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: the game when he changes armor angal for I know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: they necessarily needed to change his arm angle on that one,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: and the ball misses a Doonsday who's wide open in
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: the back of the end zone. But he continued to
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a Doonesay continue to play well. He had seven for
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: a buck fourteen. He's on pace for eleven hundred yards
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and twelve touchdowns. So Roman Dunsay's having a really nice
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: year there. But that's a big win for the Ravens
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, this team that was one
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: in five.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You look up in this.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Division and how Pittsburgh's playing in Cleveland, Cincinnati, and you're like, oh,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: you guys might have left open back in there.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: You know you got your card back in there. Now,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, you can see this thing.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: You can see the Ravens coming out of this crypt.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I mean it's week to week, but you can see
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: them coming out of this thing right now.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, Baldy. Last thing. Then I'll let you
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: run the U this league this year.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: We were talking about the Patriots, and we'll get to
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: them and tomorrow's episode of Bucky and Myself. But the
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: schedule this year, maybe more so than any other, there's
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: a there's a good number of bad teams, and your
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: schedule is an important factor and how far you're going
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: to go this year, some of these teams on the
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: express right to the playoffs.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Well, New England's right in the middle of it right now,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: you know, because you know they they've got they just
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: whipped Cleveland, you know, and Atlanta is that you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: they got them at home and you could just see
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: them stack at these wins. They got a big game
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: in Tampa, you know, and then they got to Jets
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. Like, you know, they're seeing some of these
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: teams that are at the bottom of the you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: just the bottom of the barrel right now, but you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: you get one like I don't know what Atlanta I
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: got to watch Atlanta heads, I don't. I don't want
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: to jump ahead of myself here, but yeah, they've had
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: some real stinkers and clunkers here short the course of
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: the season.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's to say the least. All right, Hey, this
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: has been fun. Baldi love these mondays, each and everybody
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: can appreciate your time.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Man, we're seeing their ship well bucket. It's always great
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to have baldy man.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Good chance to uh to break these games down and
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: kind of a different week, right, we didn't have quite
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: as many games, so a chance to lock in on
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the on the ones we did have.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And with a with a smalls slate, smaller ben,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you're able to kind of dive a little deeper into
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: those games because you had a chance to see all
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of those games instead of flipping around. So it was
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a great weekend, uh, And I'm looking forward to more
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: five weeks so we can kind of narrow focus a
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: And by the way, in the UH file, forty or
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: so minutes we've been doing this, I don't think a
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: college coach was fired, So you know, hey, they made
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: it forty minutes without somebody getting whacked. Good night dropping
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: like flies, brother, DJ.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of great jobs. Who's gonna take
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: all these jobs?
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Like apparently Lane gets all of them. I think Lane's
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: coaching fourteen next year.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Who are going to get all of these jobs? It's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: crazy because if it's not Lane, it's Marcus Freeman. They
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: keep citing it. I'm like, Marcus Freeman is going to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: leave your.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Name another name? Yeah, so what what are we talking about?
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: No, it's a good day to be Clark Lee. I
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: promise you that. It's a you hear his name too.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Now they're doing messing around. So I know one thing.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: These a lot of dudes are going to get opportunities
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: for jobs, or they're gonna get opportunities for raises. They
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: are and that is a good time to be a
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: good college.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Coach right now. That's a good spot to be.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: In for no question. All right, that'll do it for
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: us today. We'll see it tomorrow right here on. Move
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: the sticks.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Mhm.