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Chuck in the Morning 8-11 Hour 3: Magic Mirror on the wall... Is Arnold a MacDonald guy and a Yankees preview. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: new feature today. I wanted to call it mirror mirror
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  Speaker 1: even day last Soul thought it was mirror mirror.
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  Speaker 2: I know, right, he read the book, clearly didn't watch
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  Speaker 2: the movie.
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  Speaker 1: But magic mirror is what Disney ended up calling it
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  Speaker 1: in snow white, and the idea behind it is to
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  Speaker 1: prove to you that I am the fairest of them all.
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  Speaker 1: And there are three different definitions for fair. As it
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  Speaker 1: turns out, there is beauty that's not the one that
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  Speaker 1: is attributed to me, right. There is pale of skin
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  Speaker 1: that could be.
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  Speaker 2: Contributed, especially on YouTube. It makes us o books so pale.
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  Speaker 1: But the one I'm referring to is just that version
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  Speaker 1: of fair. I want to prove that I am the
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  Speaker 1: fairest of them all when it comes to these these
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  Speaker 1: types of conversations, especially when I have some bold ass
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  Speaker 1: takes that not everybody can possibly agree with. But we
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  Speaker 1: have an article out from Ryan Devish here this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Great job by Ryan Divish, and he says, don't expect
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners to let go of Dan Wilson. Part of
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  Speaker 1: that reason it was inferred is because of his legendary
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  Speaker 1: status within the organization. Part of his reason. Part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason is that the players just love playing for him,
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  Speaker 1: and so they believe that they can fix it under
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  Speaker 1: Dan's leadership, and so the organization does not want to
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  Speaker 1: upset that apple cart. As you know, I have announced
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  Speaker 1: that I think Dan Wilson should go. And I announced
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  Speaker 1: that the first day out of the All Star break
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  Speaker 1: that was our show that Monday ended up being a
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  Speaker 1: thing that week. And I certainly have not seen this
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  Speaker 1: team perform like I was wrong. They certainly haven't stepped
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  Speaker 1: up and had their managers back if they want him
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  Speaker 1: to lead them to greatness. All they've done is played
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  Speaker 1: poorer in the second half of the season. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to stand by all of my arguments and reasons
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  Speaker 1: why I think Dan Wilson should not be the manager
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  Speaker 1: of this team tonight and going forward to try to
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  Speaker 1: get them out of these aduldrums and give ourselves a
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  Speaker 1: chance of pulling off this comeback here with the remaining
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  Speaker 1: forty five games of the season. But Magic Mirror is
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  Speaker 1: about you telling me why Dan Wilson should stay. I
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  Speaker 1: want to be fair and I don't want a big
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  Speaker 1: mountain of reasons. We have time to rifle through a
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  Speaker 1: few of your correspondences by just giving me a reason
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  Speaker 1: why Dan Wilson should stay. So I've been asking for texts,
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  Speaker 1: I've been asking for YouTube responses, I've been asking for
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  Speaker 1: talkbacks all morning long for this very segment. So Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to them.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna start with the talkback.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Baseball is a game of intangibles, Like you can't
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  Speaker 3: just go up to the plate and try extra hard,
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  Speaker 3: and you know that's not necessarily going to.
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  Speaker 1: Fix anything or work out.
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  Speaker 3: But I see terminating Dan Wilson as just some intangible effect.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it galvanizes the team, maybe it has some change.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't a constant really topoto and kind of the approach.
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  Speaker 3: His offense has been terrible far before Dan Wilson ever, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, he ran out of time. But look, I like
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  Speaker 1: that argument very level, had a very very sound argument,
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  Speaker 1: And I think there are two things for me to
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  Speaker 1: react to in that You're right, it is just an
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  Speaker 1: intangible You don't know what the next manager, what kind
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  Speaker 1: of effect he could have on this team, And maybe
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  Speaker 1: it'll be a grossly negative effect, maybe the team falls apart.
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  Speaker 1: But at this stage I think that you have to
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  Speaker 1: make that desperate move to shake things up. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: there is no reason behind why the Philadelphia Phillies became
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  Speaker 1: instantly better the moment they fired a really likable, successful
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  Speaker 1: manager and Rob Thompson, a guy that saved them from
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  Speaker 1: Joe Girardi at one a few years ago and turned
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  Speaker 1: them into a winner. But this year, when they started
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  Speaker 1: the season and they felt as if we have a
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  Speaker 1: playoff roster and we're not anywhere close to playing that way,
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  Speaker 1: they made the change early and it improved instantly. And
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  Speaker 1: lo and behold, here are the Philadelphia Phillies right there
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, right there in the playoff position, and
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  Speaker 1: with Christopher Sanchez, Zach Wheeler and Jesus Lozardo, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be very dangerous for the Dodgers to try and
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  Speaker 1: take out. The Boston Red Sox did the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: They got rid of Alex Korra. You could argue, well,
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  Speaker 1: isn't that just trying to change an intangible effect? And
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  Speaker 1: yet it worked, and they've got the same analytics, using
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  Speaker 1: the same analytics. They didn't change out general managers, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't change out analytics teams, they didn't change out their nerdoramas.
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  Speaker 1: They went with the same players, the same organizational philosophy,
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  Speaker 1: and they changed the manager. And maybe it is just
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  Speaker 1: an intangible thing that you really can't know what kind
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  Speaker 1: of impact it's going to have, but they felt they
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  Speaker 1: were desperate and had to do something to shake things up.
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  Speaker 1: I feel the Mariners are in the exact same boat
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 4: And I can see the I mean we talked about
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  Speaker 4: it earlier, the nervousness or the uncertainty of how the
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  Speaker 4: team will react when it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always that risk. I understand that.
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  Speaker 4: What would you say to that talkback? Second part though,
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  Speaker 4: isn't the one constant Jerry Depoto.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my reaction to that is, I think Jerry Depoto
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  Speaker 1: has made a lot of mistakes, and I think he,
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  Speaker 1: as an executive, has learned from those mistakes and made
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  Speaker 1: changes over the years to his own approach. The offensive
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  Speaker 1: hitting approach I criticized for a great number of years,
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  Speaker 1: as Ashley knows, as Bucky knows, as anders Hurst on
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  Speaker 1: My Stove podcast knows, get the hell out of the
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  Speaker 1: way you don't know offense, and I felt he and
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  Speaker 1: Justin were way too hands on with that. But at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of last season, and Jerry he admitted this
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  Speaker 1: in a press conference, he stepped away from it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: certainly he's got to say on how things are done,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know how loud that say is. But
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  Speaker 1: when Kevin Seitzer and Edgar Martinez were put together, there
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  Speaker 1: was this and they stated it like, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: back off of this. We're gonna hand the offense over
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  Speaker 1: to those two guys and the approach at the plate.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly analytics still play a part in that. But if
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto got fired tomorrow, they're going to replace him
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  Speaker 1: with a guy that embraces analytics. Nobody's not going to
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  Speaker 1: do that, maybe not as much, but it's still going
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  Speaker 1: to be part of the process. And this ties into
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  Speaker 1: what I just said about the Red Sox and the Astros.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't change their organizational philosophies. They didn't change midstream
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  Speaker 1: their general manager, the guy making the decisions. They changed
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  Speaker 1: a manager and a couple of coaches to shake things
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  Speaker 1: up to get the player's attention. And maybe it was
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  Speaker 1: just an intangible roll of the dice, but it worked.
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  Speaker 1: And it's because they were both in desperate situations. The
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox had the worst record in baseball at the time.
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  Speaker 1: They've got like a nine hundred winning percentage since that time.
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  Speaker 2: I would like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it works, but this goes all
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  Speaker 1: the way back to trader Jack McKeon taking over the
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  Speaker 1: world champion Miami Marlins twenty five years ago. Just an
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  Speaker 1: old grumpy fart, and he rolled in there though an
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  Speaker 1: old grumpy fart had the right things to say to
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  Speaker 1: the group of players to get them turned around, and
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  Speaker 1: they won the World Series for goodness sake that year.
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  Speaker 1: So there's enough evidence that it does work. And we
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  Speaker 1: can discuss Jerry in another edition of Magic Mirror down
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  Speaker 1: the line. As a matter of fact, I look forward
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  Speaker 1: to it. But let's get back to Dan.
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  Speaker 2: All right from the two oh six. What about roster construction?
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  Speaker 4: With Cal, Julio and Naylor struggling, there's no combination of
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  Speaker 4: hitters on this team that could save this team from
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  Speaker 4: being dead last year in runs score.
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  Speaker 2: That's not Dan's fault.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how is that roster construction? I mean, you just
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  Speaker 1: said it yourself. Josh Naylor, Cal Rowley, and Julio Rodriguez
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  Speaker 1: aren't hitting. Take the three best hitters away from any
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  Speaker 1: team and let's see how they perform. Take Camonaro Diaz
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  Speaker 1: and name the third guy away from the Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 1: Rays and see how much they plummet. Like roster construction
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  Speaker 1: to me, To me, it's cheap. To me, it's un
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  Speaker 1: This is about being the fairest of them all. To me,
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  Speaker 1: it is unfair to say at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 1: year I believe in the roster, and then when individual
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  Speaker 1: players don't perform, then I'm going to say, well, this
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  Speaker 1: roster stinks, right like I I and maybe I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm bullish about this. I think the roster was fine
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  Speaker 1: coming into this season. It had Vegas making us the
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  Speaker 1: favorite to win the American League. It had national analysts
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  Speaker 1: everywhere saying the Mariners should win the American League. It
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  Speaker 1: had local people that have been critical of the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: over the years saying the Mariners should win the American League.
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  Speaker 1: Roster construction, to me, is was the roster set up
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  Speaker 1: to win this year. And that's where again we get
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  Speaker 1: into the Jerry thing.
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  Speaker 5: That's why I'm not saying it has nothing to do
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  Speaker 5: that I personally like Jerry or Justin over Dan might
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  Speaker 5: be the opposite, is true. It is I believed in
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  Speaker 5: the roster when the season began, and I still think
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  Speaker 5: it's a roster worthy of.
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  Speaker 1: Getting things done. Now I'll say this, I'll say this.
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  Speaker 1: They this team seems to only have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: win one way, and that is to hit home runs.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only way we can score runs. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that does fall on roster construction. But
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  Speaker 1: I would also say a lot of that falls on
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  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson. Why don't we do anything else but wait
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  Speaker 1: around for the three run homer? Yeah, And I have
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  Speaker 1: been very clear about this. I blame the players the most.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame Dan the most. I blame the players
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  Speaker 1: the most. Right, they're underperforming, they are underperforming. But when
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  Speaker 1: it's a collective, when it's the entire group, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: blame the manager and the coaches more than I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: blame the team that put the roster together. When I
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  Speaker 1: believe in the roster, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a hypocrite about it. I believe in the roster.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that the roster is the problem. This
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  Speaker 1: roster should have been good enough to run away with
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  Speaker 1: the American League West. Jim Bowden just told this to
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  Speaker 1: us two weeks before the trading deadline. He said, the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners don't have to add anything before the deadline and
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  Speaker 1: they should still run away with the American League West.
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  Speaker 1: He sure did.
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  Speaker 2: I heard that with my own two years there.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to blame roster construction for the
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  Speaker 1: way that this team underperformed this year. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: solely blaming it on Dan and the coaching staff. I'm
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  Speaker 1: blaming it on the players underperforming. But who gets more
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  Speaker 1: held responsible for a group of players underperforming? Is it
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  Speaker 1: the guy that put them together or is it the
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  Speaker 1: guy that's around them every day and his job is
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  Speaker 1: to get that group of players to play their best.
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  Speaker 4: I would think it's that guy from the four two five.
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  Speaker 4: My one and only reason would to keep Dan would
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  Speaker 4: be with the current roster, in future players and prospects.
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  Speaker 4: It would show that we will stick together the good
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  Speaker 4: and the bad, show that we commit a third manager
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  Speaker 4: in three years. Would make it harder if we pretend
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  Speaker 4: that the front office will spend to re sign or
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  Speaker 4: have a free agent want to come here, knowing we
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  Speaker 4: just recycle if it's not working. Now, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: I agree with or I disagree with firing Dan, but
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  Speaker 4: that would be my one reason to keep him continuity.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, tell it to the NBA, NHL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just they not care about coaches.
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  Speaker 1: They will plow it over. Yes, I don't necessarily buy that,
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  Speaker 1: as you might guess. This sort of to me goes
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  Speaker 1: to what the player said in Ryan's article, we just
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  Speaker 1: really like him. Well, I don't want you to be
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  Speaker 1: friends with your manager. That doesn't impress me. I get
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  Speaker 1: that you like him. Everybody in the organization likes him,
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  Speaker 1: and he's earned being liked through the way that he
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  Speaker 1: conducts himself as a human being. But your manager should
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  Speaker 1: not be your friend first. He should be your boss.
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  Speaker 1: And if you see him as a friend instead of
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  Speaker 1: somebody whose job is to get the most out of you,
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  Speaker 1: if you look to him like, man, that's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that I would help have, help me move. That's a
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  Speaker 1: guy I'm gonna call if ever I need a drive
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  Speaker 1: home from the bar and I've had one too many.
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  Speaker 1: That's a nice attribute to have in your manager. But
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  Speaker 1: it's not what I want you to say about your manager.
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  Speaker 1: What I want you to say about your manager is
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  Speaker 1: that's the guy that got the most out of me.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like when we were in grade school and
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  Speaker 1: you didn't want the teacher in the fifth grade that
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  Speaker 1: you heard was tough, and then you ended up getting
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: that teacher in the fifth grade who was tough, and
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: now you look back on it, even though you were
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: scared on day number one of school that he was
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  Speaker 1: going to be tough, and you're like, that is one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite teachers of all time. That's what a
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  Speaker 1: manager's gotta be. Not your friend. Yeah, it's the guy
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  Speaker 1: that gets the most out of your circle. The players
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  Speaker 1: on this roster who this year we feel the most
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  Speaker 1: was gotten out of them? Three of them on the
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  Speaker 1: entire roster, Hancock, young Hand, Zone four, Randy Yeah, even then,
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  Speaker 1: did you get the most out of him? Why did
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  Speaker 1: we have so many incidents of him being lack Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: But often been very good, very good?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Else We've gotten this from a couple people, So I
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  Speaker 4: feel this one is an important one to ask you. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we get rid of Dan, who do we replace him with?
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  Speaker 4: That would be my one. That's their one hesitation for
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  Speaker 4: why they wouldn't want Dan fired, because who's the other option?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean in house, it's Maniacta. That's the obvious.
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  Speaker 1: He has managerial experience and he knows the team. I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe in Maniacta. Again, again, I like him a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't I don't necessarily believe that's the right choice.
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  Speaker 2: Could you go with someone out of what you Coss
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  Speaker 2: for this At this point.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: You could go Alex Cora. He's available out there. I mean,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: he's the guy they got rid of though in Boston
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: and have gone on a streak without him. He also
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: has astros ties, which might bother some people. There's Bruce
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Bochie types. There's some veterans out there that might be
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: interested in the job. And I have heard I've heard
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of people say, well, not a lot of people.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: A couple people say that nobody wants to manage for
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto, even if around the league no one likes
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto and no one believes in Mariners ownership. There's
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  Speaker 1: not a manager out there that doesn't look at this
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  Speaker 1: pitching staff and this young nucleus with Kate Anderson and
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Ryan Sloan coming and Emerson and Young up the middle,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and Arroyo and Montees on the way, and an entire
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: starting rotation under club control right now, which is one
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: of the best in baseball. Like Ben Johnson passed two
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: full head coaching cycles in the National Football League and
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: chose for the Chicago Bears, why well, it certainly wasn't
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  Speaker 1: for ownership. That might be the worst ownership group in
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the National Football League routinely panned and by people that
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not going to throw them under
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  Speaker 1: the bus. People don't want to play for the mccaskeys
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago. But the hottest offensive coordinator over a three
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  Speaker 1: year span waited till he had the quarterback to play
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  Speaker 1: for in Caleb Williams, and he went to the Chicago
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  Speaker 1: Bears without hesitance. Yeah, I see, Kevin Cash would manage here.
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  Speaker 1: We might have to trade for him, and he embraces analytics.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to warn you more so than Dan
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  Speaker 1: Wilson does, more so than Jerry Depoto does. But that
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  Speaker 1: guy is fantastic. Steven Vote, I've heard will manage here.
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  Speaker 1: They want to manage here. That's what I'm doing in
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  Speaker 1: the off season. That's who I'm going at. But we're
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: talking about whether or not he should stay the manager now, right, Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that that would be a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people's hesitation is to get rid of him and
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  Speaker 4: just have someone in house. And then there was See
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  Speaker 4: the problem is this for there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: that are still doing the Jerry thing.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to the Jerry part of everything.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you want this one, Well, no, I'm saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we'll get there, We'll do the Jerry one on this
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  Speaker 4: same thing.
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  Speaker 1: But as what I'm saying about Jerry making a dent
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  Speaker 1: at all, I realized that there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that have had their pants on fire for Jerry
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  Speaker 1: to Poto now for seven eight years. I mean I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: even saw a tweet or a text this morning or
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: tweet this morning saying that we went through a ten
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: year rebuild. What the f are you talking about?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: In year it was a.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Two year rebuild. We were two years and you went
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: from competitive to rebuilding for two years. One of those
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: was a shortened year, and then had a winning record
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: by the third year, and we're a playoff team by
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the fourth. What the hell are you talking about?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I think it's just like every year lasts forever.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I think some people came in so hard on Jerry
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: that they have to hate Jerry, and you attach so
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: many things to Jerry, like how could you be angry
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: at Jerry because the PR staff has a Jimothy Knight?
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I know, because that stuff doesn't make sense. Nobody can
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: separate those things. I will say that the one thing
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: we're seeing a lot of is well, Jerry wants a
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: yes man, so he's only going to hire someone who's
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: going to agree with everything.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad this point came up. I'm so
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: glad this point, this point had to come up. Dan
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Wilson makes the lineup and Dan Wilson makes the end
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: game decisions. Does the front office influence him before every game? Yes,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: just like every front office in Major League Baseball does.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: There are no old school managers that don't that get
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: away without meeting with the nerderama and the big stat
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: packet and they all have conversations. There's a meeting between
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Pete Woodworth, cal Rawley, the starting pitcher, and Dan Wilson
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: before every single game. And that's information on high that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is coming down that they discuss. Every organization does this now?
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I would say about this,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: if that really is just a yes man. First of all,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Scott Service will punch in the face if he thought
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you thought he was just a yes man for eight
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: years here. But if Dan Wilson really just took the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: job because he wanted the job and he just says
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: whatever you say, Jerry, shame on Dan Wilson. Do you
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: think I think higher of Dan Wilson. If I'm to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: believe that rhetoric, that he only does what Jerry tells
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: him to do, I think so much less of Dan Wilson,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm critical enough of him. But if that really
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: is true, that he just gets a speech before because
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: he's not sitting down there on a phone, he's not
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: sitting down there looking at his watch, there's no communication
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in the game. So if he spends every game just well,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: this is what Jerry wants me to do, then I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: don't think any higher of Dan Wilson. I think far
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: less of Dan. Dan the man be a man, But
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that's true. I think Jerry and Justin
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: are very influential on the decisions that are made on
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a day to day basis. I don't argue that, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: maybe too much so still to this day. But I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: also believe, because I've been told by all three parties
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and the rest of you are just making this up.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Do you haven't asked Justin Hollander to his face. I've
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: asked him on the air and off the air, who
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: makes the lineup decisions? Who makes the in game decisions?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And he laughs and he says, the lineup is Dan's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: and there is no way that we are discussing with
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: him in game decisions. He laughs about it. Now, if
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you want to believe that he's lying to me, then
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. But I know I've done
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: one thing more than any of you out there that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: are making this suggestion. You've never asked Justin, Jerry or
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Dan this question. I have, so maybe they're lying to me.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I'm naive, but I have asked it of the three
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: pillars in the organization, and they all tell me Dan
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: makes the lineup. Dan's in game decisions all influenced on
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: high by the Nerderama led by Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I am not denying that they don't influence Dan's in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: game decisions, but once they've had their say before the game,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it's Dan's call for the rest of the game. I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: don't know how much clearer I can make then.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Oh that was clear?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: All right? Great stuff?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was fun.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I mean I had fun.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I liked it. I like it when our listeners participate too.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, And the more we
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: do it, the more I want to hear from you.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: We'll open up the phone lines in the future, And
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I promise next week, because we're going to do it
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: again next week, I will make it all about Jerry.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: That's my promise, since we couldn't have a discussion about
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Dan without bringing up Jerry. And I guess that makes sense.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does because a lot of I mean, they
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: are very intertwined.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, Mike McDonald his thoughts Ontari
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and Arnold. Are the Seahawks really interested in this guy?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It sounds like they are. Sports Radio ninety three point
• 23:08
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• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I thought it was great. People are very excited for
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the Jerry segment next week.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna do Yeah, you might have to.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Make it more than one segment next week. I'm just
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: warning you.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Tire hour.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: We'll do a tire hour there you go. Come up
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of magic songs, a bunch of mirror songs.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You can do magic, You can do anything that you desire.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: True, Yeah, it's true. Thanks America.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: You know, want to know why? Tell me why, Chuck,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Because you're the one that can put out the fire.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: With your sister Golden just gonna go through a different America.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's just jump to another one. Yeah, it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Ashley a chuck with you. And look, Breg Bell and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I clearly don't agree about baseball. But one thing we
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: do agree about is this Terryan Arnold thing. And not
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that you know we're entire I mean, I'm not gonna
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: speak on athem. Not that there's not a scenario out
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: there that maybe some of the information is grossly misrepresented.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the authorities have no case. Maybe Terry and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Arnold is a victim of mistaken identity like apparently the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: victims were. I'm not closing myself off to any kind
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of possibility out there of the future. And I'm also
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: not closing myself off of the possibility that it's still
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: not within John Schneider to say talent comes first. I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: got a chance to get a first round young cornerback
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: for league minimum salary, and I think our PR team
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: can spin it. You forgave me for Frank Clark, You'll
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: forgive me for Terry and Arnold. I think there's probably
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that little bit of a rascal and John Schneider that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: just might not be able to resist if he gets
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a chance to get a talent like Terry and Arnold
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: for League minimum. Where Greg and I agree is it
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like a Mike McDonald thing. It doesn't
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: feel like something Mike McDonald would go along with. I've
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: seen John do it. But since Mike McDonald came into
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: town the last couple of years, man, it just feels
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: like character has been a much played a much bigger
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: role in who the Seahawks bring into this organization, be
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: it draft pick, free agent, trade acquisition. And so it
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: is surprising that they're kicking the tires when this story
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: is so sensational and so potentially wrought with just disaster.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: But Mike McDonald is in. He's got his hand in
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the middle on this. Here. He was yesterday talking about
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold after practice.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Well it's enough right now. We had him in for
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: a great visit, a great tryout. It's you know, it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: a situation where there's there's some there's other things that
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: are surrounding it as well. We're aware of that, but uh,
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: we're we're working through the situation right now. You know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: there's but uh there's a great visit. I really really
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: enjoyed medium and I think I think he enjoyed being here,
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: so we'll see where it goes a little bit.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Evaluate situations like that where there's lots the other stuff
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: going on and he's got appolt you you work.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Really hard to build and just make sure you protect that. Well.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: We're going to do our due diligence, and there's a
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: lot of people in Terryon's corner that that we respect
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: on in terms of the type of guy is. So
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: we're gonna work through all that and I think we
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: I trust our people to make the best decision for us,
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: and we also think this is a great place to
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: come work too, and that people can be the best
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: verson themselves if given the opportunity. So kind of works
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: both ways.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Mike mc donald yesterday, whenever Mike kind of backed something,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you can't help. But Okay, I guess, I guess I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: all the ears. I'm not. You're not not at all.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like Ashley Ryan type guy.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: No, and it's not.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to convict him before he's
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: been found guilty of this situation. But that is a
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: lot of drama that I don't think you need. You're
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: You've already got people gunning for you this year. You
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: are the defending Super Bowl champions. You don't need to
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: add something that's going to be a distraction. And on
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: top of that, before this legal issue, we have heard
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: that he's not the best teammate. What have we done
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: with people who weren't the best teammates or who caused
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: issues or outbursts on the field? Reek Wolla no longer here,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: DK Metcalf no longer here. He doesn't tolerate it. So
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know why this guy would be a fit.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: I can't figure it out.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Lions walked away fast. Yeah, if
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: anyone would have had the reason to like as much
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: as they had invested to say, okay, can we let
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the process play itself?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yes? And no one would blame them for that, right
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, can we let the process play itself out and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: then we'll make the best decision for the organization. They
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: cut him like immediately, and I don't think they would
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: have done that if they believed his story. And my
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: guess is they don't believe his story because they know
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: his character, right, So I mean I'm reading a lot
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: into that. No, But yeah, I'm supposed to be the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: fairest of them all, and that feels a little unfair
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: right there, but that is my read of the situation.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, Dan Campbell's a football bite off knee caps.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're losing our grip on our status as
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender. They would be I think the last
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: team that will want to give up on a third year,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: first round pick cornerback, especially when their secondary has gotten
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: devastated each of the last two years and probably kept
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: them from getting to the super Bowl. And here are
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the Lions. As soon as they heard the story the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: next day, you are out and then all of the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: other stories about his character started to come out as well.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what you have to think right in
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that situation.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: And if he is a team leader, if he is
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: the glue in the locker room, if he is all
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: of these things that are important to their team's success,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: they wouldn't have been so quick to dismiss him. But
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: you start hearing those stories after and I think you
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: think to yourself, okay, so take away the legal stuff.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Do we want a guy on our team that would
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: be dropped so quickly? And now we're hearing all these
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: things that he's not that great in the locker room.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Why would we want that regardless of his legal issues.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Huh. I think you and Greg and I are all
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: on the same page. It just doesn't feel Mike mcdonaldy,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and I want you as an organization to be as
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Mike mcdonaldy as possible. Yes, please, it works.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's done well for us.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But he is at least he is at least even
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't even if he doesn't, isn't sure he
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: likes it. He's smart enough to say other people in
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the organization do. This guy might end up on our
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: team depends on what we hear, how this thing unfolds.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm certainly not going to say we don't have
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: room in our organization for a guy I like this,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: So that seems to be the approach that Mike's taking.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Also would like to point out Hawk blogger, you were
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: being very nosy, uh, and Baby, I think you should
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: get fined for crying in the middle of Mike McDonald's.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Process, being all loud and stuff.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: We don't let Bob Condota do that if he started
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: crying in the middle of a press conference. Why would
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: we let that, baby.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: It's a very valid question. You're just being fair, You're
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: asking fair questions.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Bob Candota is a professional. That's why he's been
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: on the beat for so long. That's why he's so
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: good at his job. He just started crying in the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: middle of Mike McDonald's answers. How long would he have
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: his job? Think about that, baby?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Not very long time.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Next time you want to ruin a piece of audio,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you better want to check yourself, all right? Coming on
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: next a preview of tonight's series at Yankee Stadium Sports
• 30:50
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• 30:52
  Speaker 4: We are going to go in and all our dreams
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: are going to come true when we sweep the Yankees.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I've always said to Alisha Cage, You're full of crap. Eh,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it's a big liar. You know, if you rearrange the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: letters and Alicia Keys, you can spell lie a lot like.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. But Mariners in New York
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: taking on the Yankees. So not only do the Mariners
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: have to go on a bit of a heater here,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to do it against some really
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: good competition, but the New York Yankees. To provide you
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a preview for tonight, not exactly the same team that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: we've been led to believe that they are. Every year.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: They're a little overrated. Even here in town. People get
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a little carried away with how much better the Yankees
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: are than the Mariners. I'm not sure they really are
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: on paper, but they do have a record fifteen games
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: over five hundred. Then again, they are playing without arguably
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: their two best players. Aaron Judge has been on the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: injury list since mark May thirty first, and he's not
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: going to return in the next three days. Cody Bellinger
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: has also been on the is on the injured list
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: right now, and he's not going to return in the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: next three days. Since May thirty first, when Aaron Judge
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: did go on the jury list, this team has gone
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: thirty and twenty nine since that time. So this has
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: they're sixty six and fifty two. I should say, now
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I forgot. I've called up a box score from two
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: days ago because I was looking up what kind of
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: lineup they threw against Chris Sale. So sixty six and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: fifty two. Now on the season, they've gone thirty and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: twenty nine since Aaron Judge went down, So still better
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: than the Mariners have been since that time. But a
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: five hundred team in essence without Judge and probably a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: little worse than that without Judge and Bellinger. So that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is one thing that is one feather in your cap
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: as you get ready to think about your odds starting
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: tonight at Yankee Stadium. Now they have addressed some of that.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Because we had a trading deadline. Of course, we had
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Taylor Ward to our lineup. They added two bats to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: their lineup. They added Luis Garcia, who was having an
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: all star season for the Washington Nationals. And they added
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Elliott Ramos, who's a good hitter, not a great hitter,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: but a good hitter from the San Francisco Giants. And
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: lo and behold, Aaron Boone is not monkeyed around on
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: this thing. He's put them third and fourth in their lineup,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Third and fourth. That's when they face right handers. See,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: this is the most lefty dominant team, Like we struggle
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the most against lefties. But if you want to face
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, man, they throw out a parade of left
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: handed hitters. Here was their lineup last night. Trent Grisham
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: left handed, Ben Rice left handed, Elliott Ramos, who I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just mentioned, so before they were they were having a
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: left handed hitter in the lineup, but he's a right
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: handed hitter. Luis Garcia left handed, Jazz Chisholm left handed,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Spencer Jones left handed, George Lombard hit seventh, or a
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: rookie that just got called up. He does hit right handed.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So again, a couple of adjustments that they've made so
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: they're not so lefty vulnerable. Ryan McMahon hits eight left handed,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Austin Wells the catcher hits ninth left handed, and then
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a couple of days ago they were a team that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: was even more lefty dominant in their lineup. Now that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: sounds like great news to a team that has left
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: handed starting pitching. We do not not a single one. Yeah,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: never really have had one. It feels like since Marco
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez we had a lefty starting pitcher. I don't know.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I think I might activate Kate Anderson. I think we're
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: like desperation mode here are we not? And if they've
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: got such a lefty dominant lineup, hell, let's see if
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Kate Anderson can handle his debut. We have to win.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: You're facing the Yankees at Yankee Stadium. Here's the ball, kid,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: show us what you can do. I mean, please, But
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: obviously they are a team that is a little vulnerable
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to left handers, and we don't have a starter that's
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: left handed, and we do have a couple of relievers,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: thank goodness, Gavee Spires going to be back, but Jose
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Ferreyre is gonna have to pitch better because I think
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to lean on those two guys pretty
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: heavily over the course of the next three days, and
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that's still is not going to cover all of your bases.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: They'll take out McMahon, Chisholm and Grisham against lefties, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: they might do the same thing with Luis Garcia, but
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: we just don't have the chips to play to cause
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that sort of change that makes them weaker in their lineup.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to go at their best that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: they have available to them, and we're gonna have to
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: do it with our right handed pitching over the course
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: of the next three days. We have no choice.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't feel great about that, Chuck, Ye
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: not gonna lie, But weird are things that happened just
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: when we think this team is.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know, no doubt. And then the other
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: aspect of it, of course, we are also vulnerable against
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: left handers more so than what the Yankees are, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: we will face two of three the next three days.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Max Freed will pitch in Game three. Ryan Weathers will
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: pitch tonight. Both good to great left handed pitchers those guys,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and then we don't exactly face some chump in the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: middle even though he is right handed and Will Warren,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: so I guess to summarize also lefty vulnerable, but we
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: don't have the matchups like they do in our pitching
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: staff to take advantage of that. And then the second
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: thing I would say is that they are judgeless and bellingerless,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and that doesn't make them nearly as scary as typically
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: they are to face, especially at home. They are a
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: five hundred team since Aaron Judge went down with his
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  Speaker 1: injury and all of their starting pitching getting healthy has
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: not really helped the cause as much as they thought
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: it would. Be thirty and twenty nine since May thirty first,
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  Speaker 1: which makes them pretty damn average.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, average, but average is better than us. So we
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: need to step up.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, definitely have to step up, no choice, have
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: to step up, have to start winning tonight and have
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to get Brian wu tonight to get over his road woes,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: because if you start hanging pitches or are not getting
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it to that top rail with your fastball, they that
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: entire lineup that I just went down, they will crush you.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: There's not a guy in that lineup that can't just
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: take you deep on any pitch. I mean, that is
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the one thing about the New York Yankees. They always
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: have sluggers, all right. Coming up next, Ryan Healil join us.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on the Yankee series and so
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: much more, including why he got shown up on the
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: home run derby by a pitcher. Sports Radio ninety three
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