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I gotta guy for that ... Paul Wilamoski · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Break Fix Podcast is all about capturing the living history of people from all
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  over the autos sphere, from wrench, turners, and racers to artists, authors,
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  designers, and everything in between.
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  Our goal is to inspire a new generation of Petrolhead that wonder how did they
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  get that job or become that person.
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  The Road to Success is paved by all of us because everyone has a story,
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  the sand, the surf, the beaches.
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  Tonight on a special profile episode of Break Fix.
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  We talk cars, movies, and more with special guests, Paul Wilky.
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  We're very excited to have Paul on the show.
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  Some of you might remember him from his days coaching at Hooked on driving events
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  in the Northeast before he moved to Sunny California, but did you know that he's
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  an avid motor sports enthusiast, amateur photographer, and all around Petrolhead.
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  And as always, I'm your host Brad.
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  And I'm Eric.
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  So let's roll.
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  Pauly.
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  Paulie.
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  Paulie.
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  What's going on?
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  How you doing?
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  It's been a minute, man.
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  How are you?
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  Good dude.
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  Doing well.
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  I've only been here for, what, two and a half years or whatever it, it
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  is the rainy season in la It's weird.
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  It gets pretty chilly for la.
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  It gets, uh, like highs in like the fifties, low fifties, and at
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  night it gets into the, it could get into the forties, low forties.
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  Do you have the may gray just like they have in San Diego?
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  No, we don't.
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  Uh, it's like December gray.
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  Yeah, it can get kinda shitty.
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  And, uh, LA drivers are horrible to begin with.
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  Like the worst.
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  Honestly the worst drivers I've ever seen.
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  I've driven all over the world and I, I put 'em, I put 'em up with like India, you
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  know, where it's like a, it's a fucking free for all, you know what I mean?
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  Exactly.
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  Um, and then when it rains, it's like New Yorkers trying to drive
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  in the snow 'cause they don't know how to deal with it, you know?
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  So they don't know how to deal with rain here 'cause it rains four times a year.
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  Yeah.
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  So I'm doing nine, you know, 80, 90 on in the left lane.
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  People are doing like 40 in a 70 and stuff like that.
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  And like, it's a shit show.
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  But you haven't worn a stitch of actual long winter clothing
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  since you've left, I'm assuming.
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  It's funny that you say that.
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  A week ago I wore my only winter jacket for an evening, and it
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  was, I was like, holy shit.
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  I actually brought a winter jacket here and I wore it.
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  First question to that though is, was it either Tweed or Hounds Tooth.
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  And did you wear that freaking cravat that you used to bring to the track?
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  No, it was a, it a, it was a barber, you know, barber, that British company?
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  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Barber jacket.
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  And, uh, you can't get away with that shit in la, you know,
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  all that people wear here.
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  Honestly, it's weird, man.
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  Like, people either dress to the nines if you're in, um, you know,
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  Beverly Hills or something like, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Everyone else is like shorts and a t-shirt or a sweatshirt.
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  It's so laid back and, uh, so, so what you're saying is the Ralph
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  Furley look is totally out for you?
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  It doesn't work.
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  Totally out, dude.
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  I wear like, I'm wearing like a zip up cardigan and, and a t-shirt
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  and I probably look like an idiot, but, uh, and I live alone.
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  I've got two cats, so, uh, no one was complaining.
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  So you're playing the part of De Niro as the crazy cat lady.
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  I get it.
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  Pretty much.
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  So let's talk a little bit about your car enthusiast past, like all the
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  different kind of cars you've had.
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  You and I have a similar background that people just happen to hand
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  us keys a lot and we get to drive some really interesting cars.
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  I noticed the other day on Instagram you were behind the wheel of a, uh, RS 4.0.
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  And so, you know, we can go anywhere with this.
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  So let's talk about your background.
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  Okay.
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  Well growing up my dad owned my de Muffler franchises.
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  So I was always around shops and my dad thought he was a good driver
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  and uh, he taught me a lot of stuff about how to do oil changes,
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  spark plugs, blah, blah, blah.
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  When I was in college, I had a good friend, Mike Musto, who is a,
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  is at Hemmings right now and he's a big online uh, uh, journalist.
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  He bought a Ducati and I wanted a bike.
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  So after college we lived near each other in Astoria, Queens and I bought
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  a triumph speed triple started riding.
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  Then I bought a second speed triple, and then he really got into cars and
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  he's like, dude, you're a big car guy.
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  You should get a car and go to the track.
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  I said, okay, and I had a BMW 1 35 I with DCT, and I'm a manual guy.
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  Every car I've had has been manual, but for some dumb reason, I got the DCT.
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  So I go to a hooked on driving event at Limerock.
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  You know, coach gets in the right seat, shows me that I
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  have no idea what I'm doing.
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  I have no idea what an apex is.
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  I have no idea about anything.
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  Obviously the first session, that was horrible.
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  Second session, that was horrible.
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  Third session, things started to click a little bit at Limerock,
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  and by the end of the day, I mean I was so much faster and hooked.
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  That was towards the end of the season.
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  So over the winter, I was talking to Musto and a couple other people and
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  I was like, look, I don't like this.
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  BMW, what do I get?
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  I want something really fast and stupid.
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  So the 2013 Shelby GT 500 came out.
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  Yeah.
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  That's about as fast and stupid as you can get.
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  I know, man.
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  And I put a Ford cap back racing exhaust on it and 662
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  horsepower, 631 pounds of torque.
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  It was a beast, but it's not a track toy.
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  I went with hooked on driving to New Jersey Motorsport.
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  It was Thunderbolt and Lightning.
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  I can't remember the setups, but most people, when they go to do de events, they
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  do what, four or five events a season?
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  I did 30.
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  You're drinking from the fire hose.
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  Dude, I was so hooked and I had great coaches and all that, and I was so hooked.
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  The second year I started doing about, it was about 15 events in.
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  Now this is not just hooked on driving.
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  This is like PCA, Audi BMW and all that, and it was all over the northeast,
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  so it was Watkins Glen, Poconos, Monticello, Jersey, and Lime Rock.
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  So I was at Watkins Glen and I can't remember who it was, but
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  it was someone who's the Joe?
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  It was Joe.
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  Uh, do you, you know Joe from Joe.
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  Joe with the nine 11 or with, I think it was Joe with the nine 11.
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  He and, and Scott Scott's the cop.
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  Yeah.
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  Nine 11.
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  So those guys are like, we're watching you on the track, dude, with the Shelby,
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  you're fast as hell going up the S'S on the back street going into the bus stop.
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  You're like driving Miss Daisy and the car just doesn't want to go.
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  Right.
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  I'm like, it's so hard to handle this car.
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  No, that's that's right.
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  It only wanted to go left.
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  You're right about that.
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  Just left.
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  And I was really struggling with the car.
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  Someone said, have you ever driven a Porsche?
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  And I said, no, not really.
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  Like when I was a kid, I drove a 9 44 for about an hour.
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  That as an extra On 16 candles or, or what?
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  With uh, what, what was the guy's name on that?
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  The dreamy guy that owned it?
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  Jake,
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  I always think about Molly Ringwald.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So.
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  Someone lent me a, uh, 9, 8, 7 Cayman S at Watkins.
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  They got in the right seat and after a couple laps, I'm starting
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  to get used to the car instantly.
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  It's so easy to drive without even trying because I was only, you know,
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  driving five tenths or six tenths.
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  'cause it's not my car.
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  I was one and a half or two seconds faster than the Shelby.
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  So this is a, a car that's a thousand pounds less if not more, and half
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  the horsepower that started to click.
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  So I sold the Shelby bought a 9, 8, 1 came an s only things I really did
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  to it was add a third radiator pads.
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  What else did I do?
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  Stainless lines, you know, SRF, fluid and all that.
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  Yeah.
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  And boom.
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  And I went out and I was having a blast.
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  And then I hired, what's his name?
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  Uh, Andrew.
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  Andrew, so Andrew became my mentor.
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  I was getting quicker and quicker with the car, and he said, the only way
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  you're really gonna get faster in this car is if you put in a five point.
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  That was where I got to that gray area.
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  Do I wanna turn the car into a ra, you know, into a race car and it's gonna
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  be really annoying on the, on the street, or do I want to not go that way?
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  So I put the harnesses in.
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  I just didn't like it.
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  I started doing like co I was gonna do coil overs and all that kind of stuff.
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  It, it just turned it into a complete awesome track car.
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  But not a street car.
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  So I capped it at that point.
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  Let's pause there before you transition out of the Cayman, because I think that's
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  right around the time that you and I met.
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  Were you already instructing at that point when you were in the
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  Cayman or was that just before?
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  Yeah, I was instructing.
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  Yeah.
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  So then we were in the instructor court together, but then we started hanging
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  out at that first event at Palmer when I had the BMW and we were paddocked all
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  there, all miserable together at Palmer.
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  And then, you know, things continued from there because then we continued
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  to work together as group leads.
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  And then I was the interim CI for a while and all that back and
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  forth kind of stuff right there.
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  So you transitioned out of that, came in and unexpectedly went into a mini.
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  It's a fun wheel drive.
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  So, so here we go.
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  So Palmer was interesting because.
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  I went to it, I've never been on the track before.
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  Have no idea about that track and that that track is no joke.
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  Yeah.
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  And you really gotta pay attention at, at Palmer.
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  So they're like, okay, you're gonna instruct.
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  And I'm like, I don't even know where the apexes are.
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  I have no idea.
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  So Jay takes me out and I do a lead follow for like, I don't know, 20 minutes.
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  He's like, you got it.
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  I'm like, yeah, I, I think I got it.
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  Yeah.
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  'cause I remember you were coming up to me going, what are you doing in turn?
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  Whatever.
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  And I'm like, I dunno.
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  It's my, it's my first time here.
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  How the hell do I know What the hell doing?
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  Thank God that the, the student I had was completely like, such a beginner.
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  Yeah.
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  That, you know, I looked like a pro and I had no idea what I was doing.
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  See listeners fake it till you make it as a coach.
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  That's, that's the mantra.
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  And Jay Teper actually qualified.
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  Mike Musto to be an instructor back in the day.
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  And coincidentally, he was the, uh, Jay qualified me to be an instructor
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  with hooked on Driving and stuff.
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  So, you know, he, he, it was fine.
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  I mean, that's a great track.
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  I really love the elevation changes and, and the, and all that.
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  So anyway, what happened was, I worked for 12, almost 12 years,
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  I worked for Harvey Weinstein.
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  Ooh.
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  Ooh.
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  I mean, I was doing, you know, behind the scenes movie stuff.
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  And when that started to go downhill, this was all before the whole Me Too movement.
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  The company was sinking.
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  We had no idea what was really going on.
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  I got laid off.
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  Oh, wow.
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  And, um, so it was re it's really hard in the film industry.
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  To get a position at my level in New York, because we were the big
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  boys, the bad boys on the block in New York after that went tits up.
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  The, all the little companies just weren't paying what I,
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  what I'm used to getting paid.
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  That's the whole reason why I moved out here.
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  So when I had the Mini Cooper and I was doing all that stuff with
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  hooked on driving, that was the, what's the word I'm looking for?
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  Uh, I was in purgatory.
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  Um, like I didn't, I I, I couldn't afford the Porsche.
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  I, you know, I had no money coming in, but I had, my daily driver was
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  this Mini Cooper, it was like a 2015 Cooper s and I was not a big fan of it.
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  The fifteens, like the newer ones are bloated.
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  They're completely numb and front wheel drive.
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  So, um, you also had an Acura in there too, didn't you?
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  That's my daily driver, dude.
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  It's a, a 2005 Acura, TSX, uh, six speed.
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  I put Conies on it, Coney yellows on it, pads, and it's a hoot.
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  I drove that in 42 hours from New York to LA Wow.
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  With a, with a friend.
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  Not, but you had it on track as well, right?
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  Or was there another Integra in the mix there?
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  As from what I remember, wow.
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  I think I took the TSX, I never had an Integra.
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  I think I took the TSX once or twice on the track, but the
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  car has 150,000 miles on it.
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  I wasn't gonna push it.
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  I got to drive a lot of other people's cars, you know, and
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  uh, that was a lot of fun.
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  But as you know, there's something to be said that driving someone
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  else's car is a nerve wracking Yes.
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  Experience.
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  So I'm very, very safe on the track.
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  I've seen some crazy shit.
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  I have a video actually, I should send you.
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  I was in a, what was the last gen vet, the zero seven.
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  The, the C seven.
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  C seven, uh, I was in a c The good looking.
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  The good looking one.
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  Yeah, the good looking one.
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  Yeah.
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  The new one is, so I'm not a fan of it.
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  Uh, so we were going down the front, the front street at, uh, Watkins Glen.
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  There's a guy in a Mustang in front of us, and he's putting along at like a hundred.
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  And so were you ha were you immediately having flashbacks going?
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  He's not gonna make it through the bus stop.
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  I already know this.
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  I already know this, but, but like, so, and he's got, you know,
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  he's got the chrome rims and all that stuff, so I'm like, oh boy.
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  So in front of him is an S 2000 trying to pass him on the,
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  on the inside, on the right.
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  So, oh, I remember this incident.
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  Yeah.
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  So he gives him the point by the guy goes and he raises him to turn one and
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  they hit, I think the Mustang did a 180.
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  So did the, uh, the S 2000 and I'm watching the whole thing happen and
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  you know, as you know, you get that spidey sense when something bad's
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  gonna happen 15 seconds out, I'm like, something bad's gonna happen dude.
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  And sure enough, it was, uh, that was the only contact I've ever seen with
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  all the years of being on the track.
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  It only takes one stupid thing to ruin everyone's day.
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  Thank God the David wasn't too bad on the cars.
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  Eric, was that the same event where two Miatas not to be named, were involved in
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  some, uh, Miata on Miata concept negative?
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  And Mike Crushfield knows exactly this situation.
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  This was the weekend of the MSF level two training.
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  Oh, that, that, okay, now I get it.
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  So you and I and the rest, half of GTMs coaches were in, were in with
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  Ross Bentley getting trained and we heard about it 'cause it had happened
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  while everybody else was on track.
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  Paul, let's go back to your, your history, your car history a little bit here.
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  Yeah.
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  So when you were a kid, I mean your dad owned a shop, what were some of
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  the posters you had on your wall?
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  What were some of your dream cars?
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  I had the Kosh, you know, I had my man, my man.
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  See, see?
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  Petrolhead of a certain age all had kunts on their wall.
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  I'm telling you.
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  Had the Kosh, you know, I think it was a white one too.
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  I think I had tester on there.
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  I mean, everybody had a test.
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  My, I didn't have the Kosh, I had the tester.
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  Yeah, I had that.
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  And then I only had like one.
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  Other poster, and I can't remember what it was.
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  Was it a Fiero by chance you took my, I knew it.
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  I knew that was coming up with the speakers in the
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  rear, in the, in the headrest.
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  Was it a, was it a Fiero with a big breasted blonde on the hood?
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  No, but I, or on the front or Heather?
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  It was Heather Thomas.
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  No, it was Heather Locklear, whoever was on the fall.
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  Uh, my, oh, that was Heather Locklear?
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, Heather Locklear.
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  It was like her on like a, like a, like a, a TransAm, yeah.
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  Oh yeah.
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  TransAm or whatever.
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  Musto has, uh, the exact smoke in the Bandit TransAm.
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  He got rid of that and just got like a funky blue TransAm, a light blue, almost
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  like a baby type, baby blue type thing.
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  And those things are great.
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  They're, I mean, back in the day when we were kids, we thought they were so fast.
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  I think the car has like 180 horsepower or something like that.
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  Yeah, I Out of seven liters.
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  Right.
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  It's like ridiculous though.
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  So you get those burnouts for the movie.
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  I got to drive one of those, A buddy of mine bought one for
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  literally 50 bucks in high school.
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  He bought a, it was a Navy blue TransAm with the screaming chicken
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  on the hood and the whole nine yards.
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  And he rebuilt the motor.
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  He went to auto diesel college and then some places down in North
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  Carolina to learn all that stuff.
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  And I remember helping him put it in.
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  And after we got it built, we drove it and I was.
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  First it was a really difficult car to drive, but that was the
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  first time I learned that valuable lesson of never drive your heroes
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  because you will be disappointed.
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  Right.
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  You'll be disappointed.
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  Yeah.
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  Even before I moved to LA I've been fortunate enough to go to,
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  um, Monterey for the Pebble Beach.
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  Oh, nice.
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  The whole week, you know, I would stay at a friend's house and stuff like that.
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  So saying that I used to drive so many of these cars around Monterey, so I drove.
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  Do you know who Alex Roy is?
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  He's another guy who did like a Cannonball record.
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  He's done, he did a cannonball, I think in a Morgan.
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  So he does like crazy shit.
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  Anyway, he had like a Citron, Citron Citron, an old one with the
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  airbags, like the seventies one, and he was like, so like a, a devo.
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  I, I guess it's like a, or Ds, the one that looks like a water bug or pill bug.
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  Is it in your Instagram feed?
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  'cause I think it was a Ds.
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  Um, I hate that car.
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  God, I hated it.
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  But what was really weird about it was either the clutch pe no, it was the
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  brake pedal, or the gas pedal wasn't a typical pedal, it was just a button.
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  You just hit the button.
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  So now self French, dude, I'm driving this car.
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  It's got a gated shifter and I'm driving it through Carmel.
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  Okay?
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  So now I have like three F Forty's behind me.
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  I have Mike Musto and a Daytona in front of me.
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  Millions of dollars of cars all around me.
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  And I'm on a hill like this and I'm like, dude, I'm gonna hit that F 40.
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  And everyone's sitting there laughing their ass off knowing that I'm sweating.
• 18:41
  You know, my balls off.
• 18:42
  Yeah, I was, I was fortunate enough to drive a lot of these cars and
• 18:46
  stuff, but again, going back to.
• 18:49
  Driving someone else's car.
• 18:50
  It's not fun for me.
• 18:51
  No, I feel you.
• 18:52
  And, and you know, I don't know what it is.
• 18:54
  Maybe, maybe it's your, your rugged New York charm that people
• 18:57
  just hand you their keys and that maybe you're just trustworthy.
• 18:59
  That's what it's, right.
• 19:00
  Yeah.
• 19:00
  I, I think it has a lot to do with, I'm, I'm, I'm not the
• 19:03
  fastest driver on the track and all that, but I am extremely safe.
• 19:07
  My situational awareness is very good.
• 19:10
  I learned from the best and I'm still learning every day.
• 19:14
  I was absolutely.
• 19:14
  Oh, absolutely.
• 19:15
  I was at Button Willow, uh, yesterday, uh, which is a, a racetrack, uh, about
• 19:20
  an hour and a half north of here.
• 19:22
  And I was with, uh, Billy Johnson, pro Driver was hired by Ford Hired, he set
• 19:27
  up the GT 500, the new GT 500 Oh, wow.
• 19:31
  Before it went on sale.
• 19:32
  He helped develop it.
• 19:33
  And the Ford GT.
• 19:35
  And did Laman four times in the gt.
• 19:40
  Wow.
• 19:40
  This guy is no joke.
• 19:41
  He's like probably one of the best drivers I've ever seen
• 19:44
  spending 10 minutes with him.
• 19:45
  He showed me how to correctly heel toe.
• 19:48
  Nice.
• 19:48
  He's like, you're doing it all wrong.
• 19:49
  You're doing it all wrong, dude.
• 19:50
  He's like, you suck at it.
• 19:52
  This is why.
• 19:53
  And um, I soak it in and I was fortunate enough to be around Jay Tepper, you
• 19:59
  know, Mike Arrigo, Brock Hs, Jr. Solomon Rosenthal, Billy Johnson and all that.
• 20:06
  And all.
• 20:06
  And Mike Musto.
• 20:08
  And I, throughout the years, had amazing coaches.
• 20:11
  That's really the secret sauce, right, that most people forget, is that
• 20:15
  when you go to these de events and you spend a lot of time, you are the
• 20:19
  culmination of all your instructors.
• 20:21
  You pick something up from all of them, you pull a thread, you're
• 20:24
  not gonna take away everything.
• 20:26
  You're gonna find the stuff that works for you, and then
• 20:28
  that becomes your driving style.
• 20:31
  And then as you become a coach, you try to instill some of the core values
• 20:35
  and things to other people, so then they inherit some of your racing genes
• 20:38
  or whatever you want, call it, it.
• 20:39
  It's an interesting ecosystem, the way it works.
• 20:42
  And we're all a byproduct of all the people that we've had experienced with.
• 20:46
  Absolutely.
• 20:47
  And I love paying it forward.
• 20:49
  You know this, when you're in the car, you, when your student has that aha
• 20:54
  moment, that moment of clarity where it clicks and they do it correctly
• 20:59
  and they're happy and you know they're happy and they're, and they get it.
• 21:02
  It's great feeling.
• 21:04
  I never thought that I would be a coach.
• 21:08
  It's, I never thought my personality, 'cause I'm a New Yorker, I, I don't
• 21:12
  have the patience for a lot of stuff.
• 21:17
  Listen here, wise guy, you're doing it wrong.
• 21:21
  You know this what you gotta do.
• 21:23
  But I was able to do it and just mellow out.
• 21:27
  Honestly, with all the students I've had, I'd say there's only about.
• 21:32
  Two or three that I couldn't get to.
• 21:36
  Like, they were just not having it and they didn't, we didn't click.
• 21:41
  But everyone else, I love it and I love it when, and this happens off
• 21:46
  often when I'll get like a random text from someone, and this actually
• 21:51
  happened a couple months ago.
• 21:52
  Like, Hey man, how are you?
• 21:53
  And I'm like, who, who are you?
• 21:55
  And they're like, you instructed me at, you know, Pocono
• 21:58
  like for the whole weekend.
• 21:59
  And, and I did this and I did that.
• 22:01
  And I'm like, that's amazing.
• 22:03
  I can't remember who you are, but I'm glad that you reached out.
• 22:07
  'cause he wanted to buy a Cayman and, uh, so he had questions on
• 22:11
  what to buy and blah, blah, blah.
• 22:13
  And I just bought, I'm back in the game, baby.
• 22:15
  I just bought a Cayman.
• 22:17
  Oh, nice.
• 22:18
  Yeah.
• 22:18
  Which, which, which generation of Cayman.
• 22:21
  'cause there's several now a 9, 8, 7, which is first gen. It's, it's a 2007.
• 22:26
  I found it with 33,000 miles on it.
• 22:29
  Wow.
• 22:30
  Yeah.
• 22:31
  So it's a great car.
• 22:32
  I actually prefer it driving wise over the 9 8 1.
• 22:36
  It's a more analog feeling car.
• 22:39
  It's great.
• 22:39
  I just put a cap back exhaust on it, a short shifter, and I'm
• 22:43
  flying through the canyons now.
• 22:45
  So Why, why the Caymans over the nine 11?
• 22:49
  The nine elevens that I've driven are.
• 22:52
  My favorite are the 9 9 7 generation.
• 22:55
  9 9 7 9 9 7 2. Mm-hmm.
• 22:58
  Uh uh.
• 22:59
  You know an S right?
• 23:01
  My favorite, what I really want is a GTS.
• 23:03
  Are you familiar what the differences are?
• 23:06
  Yeah.
• 23:06
  The two inches in the back, you know, so I love that big ass in the back.
• 23:11
  It's the hips are amazing.
• 23:12
  Gotta love a big ass.
• 23:13
  Yeah.
• 23:14
  It's a 70, I mean, that's what it says on his license plate.
• 23:16
  Just like Kramer.
• 23:17
  Right ass man.
• 23:19
  Enthusia ass man ass man.
• 23:22
  It's a $75,000 car.
• 23:24
  Yeah.
• 23:25
  With thousand miles on it.
• 23:26
  So what I like about the Cayman, I think reflects off my personality
• 23:32
  where I like to be safe.
• 23:33
  And the Cayman is such a point and shoot car.
• 23:37
  There's no drama to it.
• 23:38
  It's very hard to get the back end to come out when you're pushing it.
• 23:42
  When it does come out, you really gotta know what you're doing to get it back in.
• 23:46
  But it's so hard to really mess up in that car.
• 23:50
  And it's small, which I love, and it's quick.
• 23:54
  It's got, with the exhaust and all that 310 horsepower
• 23:58
  at 2,900 pounds, it's a blast.
• 24:01
  Yeah.
• 24:01
  You know, it's not a fast car, it's a quick car.
• 24:04
  It's a little scalpel.
• 24:05
  Now, why not the nine 11?
• 24:07
  The ones that I want are a lot of money.
• 24:09
  I will only get an SI will only get.
• 24:12
  A 9, 9 7 or maybe a 9, 9 3, which is kind of archaic if, if
• 24:18
  you guys know that kind of car.
• 24:19
  It's archaic.
• 24:20
  Yeah, it looks beautiful.
• 24:21
  But inside looks like it's from the sixties.
• 24:24
  The nine nine ones I, I believe are the next gen after 9, 9, 7 are big.
• 24:30
  They're grand tours now, not sports cars.
• 24:32
  Yeah, they're GT and, and I mean they're not as big as like the
• 24:36
  BMWs, you know the m threes?
• 24:38
  No, no.
• 24:39
  Nothing's as big as the M eight.
• 24:40
  Let's be real that thing's like a school bus.
• 24:43
  Oh man.
• 24:43
  So I really like the nine nine sevens and I probably will get one, you know, uh,
• 24:49
  that gts, that's my unicorn right now.
• 24:52
  I'll get it over time, but.
• 24:54
  For now, the, the 9 8 7 s, it's a $30,000 car.
• 24:59
  And if you look at it, you know, people who don't know Porsches
• 25:03
  think it's a 50 or $60,000 car.
• 25:05
  And the car's in immaculate condition.
• 25:07
  And I love it.
• 25:08
  I, every time I get in it, it always puts a smile on my face, especially
• 25:12
  after a cold start, you know, it's a great car man for 30 grand.
• 25:16
  Now, saying that the roads here in, in Southern California are the best I've
• 25:23
  ever driven on the, the canyon roads.
• 25:26
  Well, coming from New York, well, yeah, well, in New York I would go up to
• 25:30
  like Bear Mountain and stuff like that.
• 25:32
  And there's like, you know, it's like a three mile ride
• 25:35
  up and down and that was it.
• 25:37
  You know, we had some nice back roads in Connecticut and stuff, but they were
• 25:41
  all, for the most part, uh, residential.
• 25:44
  So it was, you know how it is, you really gotta take it easy on those roads.
• 25:49
  Blind driveways, what have.
• 25:51
  Here, the canyon roads, like Angela's Crest, the Santa Monica
• 25:56
  Mountains by Malibu and all that.
• 25:58
  These roads are legendary and they're so fast.
• 26:02
  If you screw up, you'll die.
• 26:04
  You'll fly off a cliff again, being safe, I have fun, but I'm not pushing it.
• 26:10
  Like some of these people that I've watched, these roads
• 26:13
  are hundreds of miles long.
• 26:15
  Even the PCH is gorgeous and it's a lot of fun.
• 26:17
  I mean, not nearly as fast or technical, but if you're out that way and you wanna
• 26:22
  go for a drive, just jump on the PCH.
• 26:24
  Absolutely.
• 26:25
  So when I'm going to Malibu to the mountains, I'll take PCH up.
• 26:31
  For about 15 or 20 miles, and it's a beautiful scenic,
• 26:35
  sweeping, you know, sweepers.
• 26:37
  It's 50, 60 miles an hour because there's a lot of cops there.
• 26:41
  As soon as you turn right and go up the hills, it turns
• 26:43
  into, uh, like Tour de France.
• 26:46
  It's just like this for, you'll see signs, you know, like the, like squiggly Yeah.
• 26:51
  Next 30 miles or something like that.
• 26:53
  Yeah.
• 26:53
  You're just like, so it's so is is Mulholland Drive included on that?
• 26:59
  Mulholland is great.
• 27:00
  There, there, there, there's some houses on Mulholland though, aren't there?
• 27:03
  Yeah, Mulholland is, it's a beautiful road, but it's extremely narrow and
• 27:09
  there's a lot of blind curves on it.
• 27:11
  And And is it as creepy as they make it out to be in the movies?
• 27:14
  Oh yeah.
• 27:15
  The Lynch film.
• 27:16
  Yeah.
• 27:16
  It's creepier at night.
• 27:17
  Especially, that's another thing in LA everything is pitch dark.
• 27:20
  Like there's like one lamp post, light post every like half a mile.
• 27:25
  Mulholland is fun.
• 27:27
  It's better on a bike because you have a lot more maneuverability.
• 27:31
  Mulholland Highway is a bit more open and uh, that's fun.
• 27:35
  There's tons of stuff.
• 27:36
  There's one curve, it's called like the dragon something.
• 27:40
  It's a famous curve that goes uphill and people are always hanging out
• 27:44
  there watching motorcyclists crash.
• 27:47
  Yeah, I've seen that.
• 27:47
  I think I've seen the videos.
• 27:48
  I saw a BW flip over or something there once.
• 27:51
  Yeah, it happens like daily and it's all because of the riders not looking ahead.
• 27:57
  Yeah.
• 27:58
  And that's all it is.
• 27:59
  Which is something that we, we basically repeat constantly.
• 28:03
  Get your eyes up, be situationally aware.
• 28:06
  Yeah, right.
• 28:07
  Look ahead.
• 28:08
  Yeah.
• 28:09
  So it's been like a few years since I've actually been on the track.
• 28:13
  So those daily rituals, you know, when you're on the track, look up, look ahead.
• 28:18
  They haven't faded completely, but when I'm driving on the roads, I have
• 28:23
  to keep reminding myself, now look up, look up, look far as far as ahead.
• 28:27
  Look through the apex, look through the turn, look through apex, look
• 28:30
  at that car that just, you know, a half a mile up and stuff like that.
• 28:33
  And it's great because it's embedded in my brain.
• 28:36
  It's, it's it's muscle memory.
• 28:38
  Exactly.
• 28:39
  But I still to this day have to remind myself to look up because you get lazy.
• 28:44
  You know, you, you just look at the car in front of you and react with them,
• 28:48
  and that's the worst thing you can do.
• 28:50
  We touched on your current dream car being the 9, 9 7, but what was
• 28:54
  the dream car when you were a kid?
• 28:56
  It was definitely the Kosh and the, because of Miami Vice.
• 28:59
  It was the, uh, the, actually I perf, I really liked the day,
• 29:04
  the Daytona that he drove before.
• 29:07
  Yeah, he got the tester.
• 29:08
  But yeah, it was the white tester until I found out that there were fake.
• 29:13
  Yeah, they were, all of 'em were, yeah, all, they're all like, like
• 29:16
  Corvette engines or something like that on and, and all that.
• 29:19
  And that kind of turned me off.
• 29:20
  But it was definitely Ferrari.
• 29:22
  Porsche was, uh, I love the nine 17 and uh, that was just a beautiful looking
• 29:28
  car, but I would have to say the Kosh, it was definitely because of the doors.
• 29:32
  And uh, so do you think that was the sexiest car of all time?
• 29:35
  Or do you have something that's even further out?
• 29:37
  It's still hold up, dude.
• 29:38
  It, like Matt Farrah has one, he's got like a red one with gold wheels on it.
• 29:43
  And I like was hanging out, looking at it and I'm like, this car is amazing.
• 29:47
  And then the reality kicks in because it's pretty funny.
• 29:50
  You can't see behind you.
• 29:52
  No at all.
• 29:53
  So when he had to reverse the car at Rad Wood, do you know what Rad Wood is?
• 29:57
  Yes.
• 29:58
  So there was Rad Wood at the Peterson, which is a big famous car museum here.
• 30:03
  Yep.
• 30:03
  In la He was backing it in and he had the door open, his ass out of the
• 30:09
  car, goes backwards to go through.
• 30:12
  And I'm like, that really sucks, dude.
• 30:14
  Yeah.
• 30:14
  'cause the, the side mirrors are useless too.
• 30:16
  So it's the only way to see.
• 30:18
  Well, how does Mad Farah fit in one of those?
• 30:20
  Isn't he like 6 3, 6 4?
• 30:22
  He's about six three, I would say about 280 pounds.
• 30:26
  70 pounds.
• 30:26
  So he, he's a little smaller than I am.
• 30:28
  I don't understand how he fits in a car like that.
• 30:30
  I don't know.
• 30:31
  He just bought a 3 0 8 I think.
• 30:33
  Yeah.
• 30:34
  Now there's a car that, oh man.
• 30:37
  The Magnum PI was a 3 28 though.
• 30:40
  No, a 3 0 8 GTS.
• 30:41
  And then, then the later ones he had a 3 0 8 GTS qv.
• 30:44
  But the four valve head, so, and I heard you like destroy the clutches.
• 30:48
  Dude, those were his car.
• 30:49
  Those were Tom Sellecks cars.
• 30:51
  Oh, I did not know that.
• 30:52
  Yeah.
• 30:53
  And that, so what's really funny is, and I've talked about this before in
• 30:55
  another episode, there's a crossover he did with Carol Burnett where there's a
• 30:59
  green one and that was the loaner car because of what you just said, where
• 31:03
  the clutch was out on the red one.
• 31:05
  So they gave him this green one and it's like one episode.
• 31:08
  But yeah, they were all his cars and apparently he bought one for
• 31:11
  Rick and TC and like everybody and Salt, they were like multiple cars
• 31:14
  on set and they would use 'em and then, uh, they did a crossover also.
• 31:18
  This is where I'm nerd now.
• 31:20
  They did a crossover with, um, Richard Dean Anderson on MacGyver, and he borrowed
• 31:25
  Tom Sell's car and used it for an episode on the show for whatever stupid reason.
• 31:29
  You know, those cars are great.
• 31:30
  I've driven a 3 28.
• 31:32
  It's much bigger, no more head height than the 3 0 8 does.
• 31:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 31:36
  It took a minute to get used to the gated shifter, but I tell you what, man,
• 31:39
  there is nothing like those high strung Ferrari v eights where it's like, yeah.
• 31:44
  Where is Red Line?
• 31:45
  'cause the gauge goes to 12,000 and you're just like, I don't know,
• 31:48
  somewhere around nine you shift and it doesn't care and they sound glorious.
• 31:53
  Oh, amazing.
• 31:54
  And then you, then you realize it's in there sideways and you scratch your head
• 31:57
  and you're like, wait, it's transverse.
• 31:59
  You're like, what?
• 32:01
  So who thought, who thought this was a good idea?
• 32:03
  Tom Sellick is tall as well.
• 32:05
  I think he's like 6 3, 6 4.
• 32:07
  He can't drive that thing with the roof on.
• 32:09
  That's why they, they could never shoot with the rain or whatever.
• 32:12
  I think I just put two and two together.
• 32:15
  I forgot.
• 32:15
  The reason why I love the Kosh so much and everything comes full circle
• 32:21
  here is because of Cannonball Run.
• 32:23
  Yes, yes.
• 32:24
  So the intro to Cannonball Run, which we all know is the TransAm
• 32:28
  cop chasing the, uh, the, the Lambo with the two girls in it.
• 32:32
  And it's.
• 32:33
  Amazing.
• 32:34
  And then years later I got to meet Brock h Jr. You know, and, and all that.
• 32:39
  And telling him that I've watched a Cannonball run 150 times.
• 32:44
  I know it verbatim.
• 32:46
  And that was pretty cool.
• 32:47
  Was that the first one or the second one?
• 32:48
  Where did the color change on the car?
• 32:51
  Where they like hosted.
• 32:51
  That was the second one where they went to the drive through and Yeah.
• 32:54
  Yeah.
• 32:54
  They hosed it down and it came out black or went in black,
• 32:57
  it came out white or whatever.
• 32:59
  Yeah.
• 32:59
  That was the second.
• 33:00
  Well, the second one I wasn't a really big fan of.
• 33:02
  I'll watch it because you know, it's Burt Reynolds and Doug.
• 33:04
  Oh yeah, of course.
• 33:06
  Funny story about Brock h Jr. There's a, a famous guy, he's
• 33:11
  super rich, has his own racetrack at his house in upstate New York.
• 33:16
  It's a pretty cool racetrack, and it's, it's a, it's a like crazy
• 33:20
  that he built a racetrack there.
• 33:22
  So, Solomon Rosenthal, uh, who's associated with one lap of America, he
• 33:28
  was doing an event there for veterans.
• 33:31
  They were doing a TV show for wounded veterans, doing kind of
• 33:35
  like a marathon with race cars and doing this and doing that.
• 33:39
  And the segment was them driving.
• 33:42
  Roush Mustangs.
• 33:44
  So we had Jack Roush Jr there, Brock h Jr. And a bunch of other people.
• 33:49
  Solomon called me up and said, listen, would you, could you help out?
• 33:52
  Uh, we need someone to that knows, you know, working in a hot pit and
• 33:57
  there's gonna be a lot of people there that have no idea what they're
• 33:59
  doing, so I need you to supervise it.
• 34:01
  Said, absolutely.
• 34:02
  So I did that and then at the end of the day they're like, Hey, if
• 34:06
  you guys want to take your cars out on the track, go right ahead.
• 34:09
  So I had my Cayman and I'm going around the track and Brock Yates Jr.
• 34:14
  Is behind me and a piece of crap.
• 34:17
  Subaru Outback.
• 34:19
  Okay.
• 34:21
  Young in his car and all that.
• 34:23
  And dude, I am trying to drive quickly and he is right up my butt the whole time.
• 34:30
  And we get out and he's like, dude, you suck.
• 34:36
  Busting my chops.
• 34:38
  And I looked down and he has no shoes on.
• 34:41
  He's driving barefoot.
• 34:42
  Did you just, you did that barefoot?
• 34:44
  He's like, yeah, like I like to drive barefoot.
• 34:47
  And I'm like, and you were up my butt in a Subaru Outback.
• 34:51
  That's amazing.
• 34:52
  He's not the fastest driver in the world now 'cause he's getting up there in age.
• 34:56
  But he is.
• 34:58
  One of the smoothest, one of the most consistent drivers I've ever been around.
• 35:02
  Lots to unpack here.
• 35:03
  Tons of stories, but let's, let's switch gears for a minute.
• 35:05
  So coming from the East coast and going west.
• 35:09
  Yeah.
• 35:09
  And I'm assuming you've been out to the west coast before
• 35:11
  traveling, but now you've, you've changed residency and all that.
• 35:14
  The car culture on the East Coast is very different than the West Coast.
• 35:18
  Like, you know, we have our stance bros. There's a lot of autocross out here.
• 35:23
  There's a lot of tracks, a lot of famous tracks on the East coast, like
• 35:26
  you mentioned, lime Rock, Watkins Glen, VIR, road, Atlanta, Sebring,
• 35:30
  the list goes on and on and on.
• 35:32
  The track culture in California is very different, but also the
• 35:35
  car culture's extremely different.
• 35:37
  So what have you experienced now being there, especially in Southern California
• 35:41
  and being in the midst of, you know, some of these great fabricators and, and
• 35:45
  cars and car shows and things like that.
• 35:47
  What's it like from my limited experience here, because I've only been here for
• 35:52
  about, what, two and a half years.
• 35:54
  One of 'em has been stuck in my house like everyone else.
• 35:59
  So what I've noticed is I think car culture was created here, you know, in
• 36:05
  like the fifties and sixties and all that.
• 36:07
  With hot rods and all that.
• 36:09
  You have that element.
• 36:10
  Okay?
• 36:11
  You have cars and coffee and car meets.
• 36:15
  There's 50 of them a day.
• 36:17
  Okay?
• 36:17
  It's insane because the weather here is always, for the most part, great.
• 36:22
  You can always go to some sort of car show, some club, doing some drive.
• 36:29
  All that and it's amazing.
• 36:30
  It's very different than what I'm used to in the Northeast, which was kind of
• 36:37
  the car shows for the most part were high-end car shows at like Greenwich and
• 36:42
  the Greenwich Concourse and, and the big event at Lime Rock where they had like
• 36:47
  everyone's car around the whole track.
• 36:49
  That's like, what, a mile and a half long.
• 36:52
  Here it's more just kind of like impromptu, A lot of them are, and.
• 36:57
  There's a lot of money here.
• 36:59
  A lot of money.
• 37:00
  So you'll go to a car show and you'll see $10 million Ferraris and
• 37:05
  Bugattis and you know, uh, NDAs or whatever, like all this crazy stuff.
• 37:11
  Mike Musto told me this when I moved here.
• 37:14
  He said, listen, you're gonna come across a lot of people that
• 37:17
  you're just not gonna wanna hang.
• 37:19
  And you know, they have more money and all they do is show
• 37:22
  off their cars, which is cool.
• 37:24
  But I like hanging out with people that go to the track.
• 37:28
  Wanna drive.
• 37:30
  And, and have that kind of personality.
• 37:32
  It's been difficult to find those people.
• 37:36
  Honestly.
• 37:36
  I just started finding those kind of people that I like going out on
• 37:42
  the canyons with and driving and knowing that they're not gonna do
• 37:46
  anything stupid and try to, you know, have huge egos and stuff like that.
• 37:51
  And that's what I gravitate towards.
• 37:53
  So it's great when, just like you guys, it'll be a Sunday morning.
• 37:58
  It'll be, I'll meet someone in Venice Beach at seven o'clock in the morning.
• 38:03
  We'll go up PCH, we'll go in the mountains for a good hour and a half, two
• 38:07
  hours, and then go to this tiny little.
• 38:11
  Restaurant that's outdoors that Steve McQueen used to hang out at all the time.
• 38:16
  You know, it's called the Old Place, have breakfast and then you're
• 38:19
  home by like 11 and that's it.
• 38:22
  And that's great for me.
• 38:24
  The track culture here is pretty cool.
• 38:27
  People go to the track here all the time.
• 38:30
  The thing is, is that there's only really like two or three tracks around la I
• 38:35
  think it's Button Willow, which I was at, which was about an hour and a half away.
• 38:40
  There's Adams Motor Sports Park, which I've run at.
• 38:42
  Adams is out in Riverside, so if you ever in Riverside wanna try Riverside.
• 38:45
  Yeah, if you wanna try something different.
• 38:46
  I've never had, there's Willow Springs, which is super famous and maybe like,
• 38:51
  and there's like the Porsche Experience Center, which is not really the same.
• 38:55
  Yeah, there's one other one, but that's about it.
• 38:57
  So, everywhere else, like, you know, if you really want to go to serious
• 39:02
  racetracks besides Bun Willow, you have to go north to like Laguna,
• 39:06
  Sega, uh, Sonoma and all that.
• 39:09
  And that's cool because Musto, my good friend for 30
• 39:12
  years lives in San Francisco.
• 39:14
  So now that I have the Cayman, I'm like getting the itch
• 39:16
  again, you know what I mean?
• 39:17
  And I'm like, let's go to Laguna and stuff.
• 39:20
  And that's inevitable.
• 39:22
  I'll be doing that soon enough.
• 39:23
  I'll be living vicariously through you, Paul.
• 39:25
  So just like, dude.
• 39:26
  No, we're gonna, we're gonna be visiting is what you, what you meant to say.
• 39:29
  Absolutely.
• 39:29
  Dude, I've got an extra bedroom.
• 39:31
  You guys can crash here.
• 39:32
  No problem.
• 39:33
  Yeah, the car culture here is.
• 39:35
  Amazing.
• 39:36
  So you'll be driving down the street and you, you'll stop and a, I don't know,
• 39:42
  some crazy cougar or, or, or barracuda or, I'm glad we're still talking about cars.
• 39:49
  I just wanted to make sure.
• 39:50
  Yeah, I was, I was thinking that, I was wondering.
• 39:52
  That's a whole other conversation, uh, altogether here.
• 39:56
  It's insane.
• 39:56
  A cougar in a barracuda.
• 39:58
  A cougar in a, isn't that that song by heart, right?
• 40:02
  I mean, so, so yeah, there's.
• 40:06
  Every kind of car, you'll see everything around here.
• 40:09
  A lot of 'em are more bespoke than like what we're used to on the east
• 40:12
  coast, which all the stance bros. Where everybody's putting 'em on bags and
• 40:16
  doing whatever they're doing and they're very flashy and very well put together.
• 40:20
  But I, out west I see, I feel, still feel that there's a lot of custom
• 40:25
  fabrication going on to make everybody's experience in car very unique.
• 40:30
  Absolutely.
• 40:30
  So a good friend of mine, uh, her name is Katherine Sutton.
• 40:34
  When I was at Weinstein, I was her client for like 10 years.
• 40:39
  She worked at Technicolor, which is a big vendor for the film industry.
• 40:43
  We hit it off really well.
• 40:44
  She's super sweet.
• 40:45
  She's got a 3 56 and a Cayman just like mine.
• 40:50
  So when I moved here, I lived like five minutes from her and she's on
• 40:54
  the board of the Peterson Museum.
• 40:57
  You know, the doors swung wide open and I got to tour Outlaws
• 41:02
  the Outlaws, you know, rod Emery?
• 41:03
  I was at his facility.
• 41:05
  Peterson had an event there.
• 41:07
  So yeah, I got to watch the fabrications there.
• 41:10
  I've seen a lot of, uh, the singers, Porsches, which are gorgeous.
• 41:13
  They're out here.
• 41:14
  Have you been by Magnus Walker?
• 41:16
  His, his shop?
• 41:18
  I haven't, but I see him at least once every other week.
• 41:22
  At some cart thing?
• 41:24
  Yeah, all the time.
• 41:25
  All the time.
• 41:26
  So that road that I was telling you about, Angela's Crest, there's a really
• 41:30
  famous restaurant called Newcombs Ranch.
• 41:34
  You're going up these mountains for 30 miles and there's
• 41:37
  nothing there except mountains.
• 41:39
  And then all of a sudden there's this tiny little restaurant in the
• 41:42
  middle of nowhere, and that's the meeting point for cars and coffees,
• 41:47
  guys riding bikes, what have you.
• 41:49
  It's closed because of COVID, but it's got a huge parking lot.
• 41:55
  And I was just there two Fridays ago.
• 41:58
  I drove up at seven in the morning to get my Yaya's out and who's there
• 42:02
  is Magnus and he's hanging out, he hangs out all at all these events.
• 42:07
  So you see him all the time.
• 42:08
  I like what he does with his nine elevens and he's kind of like a singer light.
• 42:12
  I, I would, would say.
• 42:14
  Yeah.
• 42:14
  Yeah.
• 42:14
  I, I, I, I actually was contemplating talking to him saying, what
• 42:18
  could you do with a Cayman?
• 42:20
  You know, and I just like, I'm curious to see what he would say on it.
• 42:24
  He actually just bought a 9 9 1 Turbo that had like 150,000 miles on it or something
• 42:32
  like that, but he got like 50 or 60 grand.
• 42:36
  So, uh, that's, that's a deal and a half.
• 42:39
  And I think that's like, its first modern nine 11.
• 42:42
  So do you just see it as different, better?
• 42:44
  Do you miss the east coast ways or is it just the whole new chapter?
• 42:49
  Yeah, I miss certain things about New York and the Northeast.
• 42:52
  Uh, obviously the, the main thing is my family and my friends.
• 42:56
  I, I miss that tremendously.
• 42:58
  You know, I'm trying to make new friends out here.
• 43:01
  Being stuck in my house for a year doesn't really help.
• 43:04
  The Cayman does help.
• 43:06
  That's a nice little gateway to, to the Porsche community.
• 43:10
  Well, I think it also brings you back to your East coast roots.
• 43:12
  'cause you had one when you were over here.
• 43:14
  So you kind of get back in that mindset.
• 43:16
  There's a bit more culture in the Northeast than la.
• 43:20
  There is culture in la, don't get me wrong.
• 43:23
  LA is a gigantic city.
• 43:25
  It's huge.
• 43:26
  I still get lost.
• 43:27
  I use Waze every day.
• 43:29
  But you have to search for some really cool stuff while New York,
• 43:36
  maybe I'm just being biased.
• 43:37
  'cause in every it's 'cause in New York, everybody's got a guy.
• 43:40
  They got a guy that knows a guy and they know the place to go.
• 43:43
  People, people have guys here.
• 43:44
  They're, they're funny.
• 43:45
  Someone just said, I got a guy the other day and I started cracking up.
• 43:49
  I'm like, wow, that's so New York.
• 43:51
  Yeah, the people are nice here.
• 43:53
  Everyone is throttled back here for the most part.
• 43:56
  Being a New Yorker, I was coming full tilt boogie.
• 44:00
  People were scared.
• 44:01
  So they're like, you, you gotta chill, dude.
• 44:04
  Like smoke a joint.
• 44:05
  It's legal here and, and, uh, relax.
• 44:08
  People are nice.
• 44:09
  The food is great.
• 44:10
  It's much more health orientated here due to the weather.
• 44:14
  I'm not hibernating like I did in New York since I moved here.
• 44:17
  I lost like 35 pounds.
• 44:20
  And, uh, the tacos here are frigging great.
• 44:23
  That's what everybody says, right?
• 44:25
  The best tacos.
• 44:26
  I can't imagine why I'll say.
• 44:27
  So let's shift into third and let's talk a little bit about Hollywood, right?
• 44:30
  So you don't have to go into all the gory details.
• 44:33
  I think some of the listeners would love to know if you worked on anything that
• 44:36
  maybe they've seen that was popular.
• 44:37
  Anything related to cars.
• 44:39
  All right, well, we'll start with like movies that I
• 44:41
  worked on that involved cars.
• 44:44
  I would say, if you guys remember the Quentin Tarantino Robert Rodriguez
• 44:49
  double feature called Grindhouse?
• 44:51
  Yes.
• 44:52
  Uh, the one with Kurt Russell driving the Nova.
• 44:54
  With the big duck on the, uh, so I worked on that film.
• 44:58
  That was like one of the first films I worked on when I started at Weinstein.
• 45:02
  The Tarantino film is called Death Proof.
• 45:05
  Yes.
• 45:05
  That was amazing.
• 45:06
  And we posters and one of the cool posters on it is it's very
• 45:10
  retro, sixties, seventies, and it's just the hood of the Nova.
• 45:15
  And so I worked on that film trying to think of other car stuff, uh, or
• 45:20
  even notable films that, that people were like, oh man, you worked on that.
• 45:23
  I, I just saw on your Instagram you worked on, uh, sound of
• 45:27
  Metal, which I, I haven't watched.
• 45:29
  It's on my list to watch like really soon.
• 45:31
  Yeah, that's a really cool movie.
• 45:32
  So the company that I work for now has a Canadian, a sister, Canadian
• 45:38
  company, and we had the rights to sound of metal for Canada.
• 45:43
  So I was dealing with the producers every day and Amazon and all that.
• 45:48
  I got all the materials to successfully market.
• 45:51
  And release the film in Canada.
• 45:53
  That movie was a pain in the butt to deal with because the movie is about a drummer
• 45:59
  losing his hearing and what they decided to do, you know, closed caption files
• 46:05
  where you could turn it on or turn it off.
• 46:07
  Yeah.
• 46:08
  They wanted it burned in, so it's their 24 7 because it's, you know
• 46:14
  about people losing their hearing.
• 46:16
  They have to use the closed caption, so they're trying to
• 46:18
  get the point across Awareness.
• 46:19
  Yeah.
• 46:19
  Everything was up the 25th hour to get this done.
• 46:22
  That's not an easy task to do.
• 46:25
  I'm trying to think of other films.
• 46:26
  Silver Linings, playbook, the reader, the artist, do they all start with the.
• 46:32
  Oh yeah, the King speech.
• 46:35
  That was a good one.
• 46:35
  I saw that one.
• 46:36
  Yeah, that was a good flick And glorious bastards.
• 46:39
  I saw that too.
• 46:41
  That's the second Tarantino flick.
• 46:44
  It was Inglorious Django and the Hateful eight Oh oh wow.
• 46:50
  Which is Western.
• 46:51
  And then, um, yeah, and then death proof and Grindhouse and uh, nice
• 46:57
  Grindhouse thing was a. Huge issue.
• 47:01
  So the movie was about three and a half hours long.
• 47:04
  It was a double feature, right?
• 47:06
  Had fake trailers at the beginning of it, fake trailers between the two movies.
• 47:12
  And when it was released in the United States, people didn't understand that.
• 47:16
  So most people left after death proof after the first movie, not
• 47:20
  knowing that it was a double feature.
• 47:22
  Funny though, when I saw it, 'cause I saw both of 'em, I saw
• 47:25
  the double feature in the theaters.
• 47:27
  Death proof was the second one when I saw it.
• 47:29
  Is that right?
• 47:30
  The Rodriguez film was the first one then.
• 47:33
  Uh, you know, I might, I it's been so long, it might have been people
• 47:37
  left after Planet Terror, which was the, uh, the Rodriguez one.
• 47:41
  Yeah.
• 47:41
  So saying that I dealt with international, so I deal with the
• 47:44
  whole world releasing our films.
• 47:47
  No one wanted to release this film now because it's three and a half hours long
• 47:51
  and no one's gonna stay in the movie theater for three and a half hours.
• 47:54
  So we had to split the movies up and release 'em as two separate films.
• 47:59
  Now think about it, if you've marketed and did all your post-production and
• 48:03
  everything for one film, now you have to completely redo everything and release
• 48:08
  it for international, and we did that.
• 48:10
  And those films became like the director's cuts that were like
• 48:14
  10 minutes longer and all that.
• 48:16
  So that was a nightmare.
• 48:17
  So, uh, you know, which other movie had fake previews at the beginning?
• 48:21
  Tropic Thunder.
• 48:22
  I'm just gonna throw it out there.
• 48:23
  Oh yeah.
• 48:24
  Booty Sweat.
• 48:25
  So I love Tropic Thunder.
• 48:29
  Make 'em like that anymore, but they don't, they don't.
• 48:32
  It was great.
• 48:33
  Before we get into the secret Petrol heads of Hollywood, let's actually
• 48:37
  talk about your thoughts on some of the more recent car related films
• 48:41
  that have come out of Hollywood.
• 48:42
  So kind of your hot take on maybe the Fast and the Furious or Rush or Racing
• 48:47
  in the Rain or some of those movies.
• 48:49
  I love Rush.
• 48:50
  I think that's a well made film.
• 48:53
  I've always been a fan of Nikki Lauda and, and James Hunt and the,
• 48:57
  and the rivalry there and all that.
• 48:59
  And, you know, they were at Watkins Glen and all that, even though
• 49:02
  they didn't shoot it on location.
• 49:04
  A lot of it was all CGI and stuff like that.
• 49:07
  I really enjoyed that film, and I'm a big fan of Ron Howard, the director, the fast
• 49:13
  and Furious films, I'm not a big fan of, I mean, they're just completely stupid, you
• 49:19
  know, they, they defy the laws of gravity and all that stuff, but I watch 'em, I'm,
• 49:25
  I have to see 'em, you know, it's, it's just, it, it's pop, it's entertaining.
• 49:30
  Yeah.
• 49:30
  I mean, so don't get me wrong, I mean, I love Fast Five, the one
• 49:33
  that's in like Rio and stuff.
• 49:35
  Like that's that one, that's the best one.
• 49:37
  Yeah.
• 49:38
  I love Tokyo Drift.
• 49:39
  And, uh, what about Ford versus Ferrari?
• 49:42
  I liked it.
• 49:43
  Very much so.
• 49:44
  You didn't get all up in arms about when he, you know, he is doing 200
• 49:48
  and suddenly he shifts and then the pedal goes six feet further.
• 49:52
  It's funny that you say that 'cause there's a couple times I'm like,
• 49:54
  how many times is he shifting gears?
• 49:56
  Every card Fast and Furious is a 14 speed.
• 49:58
  Like a tractor trailer.
• 49:59
  Right.
• 49:59
  So besides those inaccuracies, I did enjoy the movie.
• 50:04
  Nine Outta 10 people are not gonna know that there's, you know, the
• 50:06
  engines are inaccurate, the sounds are inaccurate and all that.
• 50:10
  I really enjoyed it.
• 50:11
  I thought I'm a big fan of the director.
• 50:13
  It's a very inviting film.
• 50:15
  Yeah.
• 50:16
  It's kinda like you can watch it over and over.
• 50:18
  It's got a very warm feeling to it.
• 50:20
  It was shot with a lot of available light.
• 50:23
  So it's a beautiful looking film.
• 50:25
  I love that.
• 50:26
  The CGI is really, really down to a minimum in that film, if at all.
• 50:30
  That is probably my favorite car film in the past few years.
• 50:33
  Did they film at Willow Springs?
• 50:36
  I think they did.
• 50:37
  I don't know, but just watching the film, you can tell that
• 50:40
  it, it was at Willow Springs.
• 50:41
  Yeah, it looked legit at Lamont.
• 50:43
  They didn't, that was fake.
• 50:45
  Uh, I think they shot that in Georgia.
• 50:47
  There's probably some establishing shots and stuff like that.
• 50:49
  Yeah.
• 50:49
  In the town that's legit.
• 50:51
  But the actual track stuff, no, I think that's fake.
• 50:54
  So I've got a question for you.
• 50:55
  You, you mentioned like the original Cannonball Run, uh,
• 50:58
  you really liked that film.
• 51:00
  What about the original Gone in 60 Seconds?
• 51:03
  Because we reviewed that film Yeah.
• 51:04
  Did on our podcast we did.
• 51:06
  I haven't seen that film in years.
• 51:08
  I, I, I, I think the last time I saw it, I did a, like, a double feature
• 51:11
  with that in, uh, vanishing Point.
• 51:13
  So yeah, I mean, I love those films.
• 51:16
  But I'm gonna say the best driving films I've ever seen is Ronan Ronan's.
• 51:22
  Fantastic.
• 51:23
  All right, so here's a little backstory on Ronan.
• 51:25
  You know who's driving in those in the cars, right?
• 51:28
  It's all F1 drivers.
• 51:29
  Really?
• 51:30
  I didn't know that.
• 51:31
  Yeah, so it's all F1 drivers and just Google like the behind the scenes on
• 51:36
  that film and you'll learn all about it.
• 51:37
  That's how I did.
• 51:38
  I love the driving in that film 'cause it's all real.
• 51:42
  They're booking through niece and and stuff like that and I know
• 51:46
  niece and can I know those areas?
• 51:48
  'cause I go there for work every year.
• 51:50
  Fantastic.
• 51:51
  And John Frankenheimer is uh, who was an amazing director.
• 51:55
  So that film Vanishing Point, gone in 60 seconds.
• 51:59
  I liked, I have a soft spot for the remake.
• 52:03
  Don't.
• 52:04
  Don't be mad, but, oh, the Nick Cage.
• 52:06
  I like the Nick Cage one.
• 52:07
  I thought the first one was trash.
• 52:09
  I liked the Nick Cage one.
• 52:10
  They digging them Cannibal run still holds up.
• 52:12
  But you, you know, you know what the common thread with all those older movies?
• 52:16
  I mean, you could even lump lemons in there.
• 52:18
  You could lump bullet in there.
• 52:20
  The seven ups, stuff like that.
• 52:22
  They had these epic car chases.
• 52:25
  Yeah.
• 52:25
  And they were, they were legitimate car chase scenes.
• 52:28
  Not like the stuff that we're used to today where it's stuff's
• 52:30
  exploding and it's mostly CGI and whatever is, uh, fast edits nowadays.
• 52:35
  Like, you know, like the average shot in a Fast and Furious movie is
• 52:38
  about a half a second to a second.
• 52:41
  You know what I mean?
• 52:41
  It's like the older movies are long takes like one take camera in the car,
• 52:48
  you know, French connection, you know, like that to live and die in la Have
• 52:51
  you seen that movie that I haven't seen?
• 52:54
  Check out.
• 52:54
  Watch it.
• 52:55
  It's the same director as the French connection.
• 52:58
  It's William Friedkin.
• 52:59
  Okay.
• 53:00
  Okay.
• 53:00
  He did the ex as well.
• 53:02
  To live and die in LA has amazing car chases in it.
• 53:06
  So, uh, I highly recommend it.
• 53:08
  I mean, there's some terrible car Chase scene movies too.
• 53:10
  We reviewed some of those as well.
• 53:12
  And much like you talked about Miami Vice, all of them used the nine 11
• 53:15
  as the soundtrack for all the cars, regardless if it was a V eight or a
• 53:19
  four cylinder, I never understood that, but whatever, it was always a nine 11.
• 53:22
  Yeah, I, I just found out recently I was watching, uh, rendezvous.
• 53:29
  Okay.
• 53:29
  I just found out that it was a Mercedes.
• 53:32
  With a, uh, camera on the hood with like a gimbal or something
• 53:36
  like that in the seventies.
• 53:37
  But the sound is a Ferrari.
• 53:40
  Correct.
• 53:40
  And so everybody thinks it's like a Ferrari two 50 or whatever.
• 53:44
  And it So it's a Mercedes.
• 53:45
  Huh?
• 53:45
  It's a Mercedes.
• 53:47
  And the guy who filmed it, it was his Mercedes and his Ferrari,
• 53:52
  so he, oh, he was doing it.
• 53:54
  So it was a Mercedes.
• 53:55
  That was an impressive film, dude.
• 53:56
  It was shot in one go in the middle of the morning and all this crazy.
• 54:00
  There's a lot of myth around that movie, and, and so.
• 54:03
  You never know what's the truth and what is it.
• 54:05
  I've watched it so many times and it, it, it just, it holds
• 54:07
  up after, what has it been?
• 54:09
  60 years if not more.
• 54:10
  Something like that.
• 54:11
  I mean, it's like, what, a 10 minute film?
• 54:13
  8, 8, 10 minute film, all one take.
• 54:15
  It's, I think it was shot at like five o'clock in the morning on a
• 54:18
  Sunday in Paris, and I've heard that there was only about three or
• 54:23
  four spotters in the entire thing.
• 54:25
  I think they were using radios or walkie talkies and stuff like that.
• 54:29
  And there was like one hairy moment in the whole Yeah, where the truck is
• 54:32
  backing up and the ladies walking out and you're like, whoa, this isn't gonna work.
• 54:37
  So that was amazing.
• 54:38
  I, I watched that over and over and they just remastered it too.
• 54:41
  So it really, yeah, it looks and sounds great, man.
• 54:45
  Too bad there isn't footage from the outside.
• 54:47
  It would've been really cool to see how it was made, but
• 54:49
  again, that's part of the myth.
• 54:51
  Of that movie is not knowing what's really going on.
• 54:54
  Yeah.
• 54:54
  And then people have tried to like copy it over the years as an homage and it just
• 54:59
  doesn't have that same, yeah, exactly.
• 55:02
  Well, speaking of French films, we also, if you go back and listen to some
• 55:06
  of the other podcast episodes we've done, we reviewed a new film that came
• 55:09
  out of France last year during COVID.
• 55:11
  It's called The Lost Bullet.
• 55:12
  And apparently there's gonna be a sequel to it or a trilogy, something like that.
• 55:16
  And actually we tweeted about it and the director responded back to us,
• 55:19
  which we thought was super awesome.
• 55:20
  But that was surprisingly good film.
• 55:23
  And some just like low budget cars and stuff.
• 55:26
  Good chasing scenes.
• 55:27
  Good action.
• 55:28
  And we were like, excuse me.
• 55:29
  What?
• 55:31
  Yeah.
• 55:31
  So I was dating a French woman here.
• 55:35
  For about a year.
• 55:36
  One of the main reasons I was dating her and how we clicked is 'cause she had a a 9
• 55:41
  9 7 2 C four s cab, PDKI, I won't hold it against her, but anyway, she's, you know,
• 55:48
  a, a big film fan as I am and she turned me onto that film and I'm like, really?
• 55:54
  And I started watching.
• 55:55
  I'm like, this is kind of goofy, but the chase scenes are awesome.
• 55:58
  Exactly.
• 55:58
  You know, I was like, this is actually pretty good.
• 56:01
  It's like a cheap, uh, Lu besant, so I love Lu Besant films.
• 56:06
  So yeah, the French do make some great, great stuff.
• 56:09
  There's some really, and, and actually, and I don't know if it's part of your
• 56:12
  world, you're talking about international.
• 56:14
  We're starting to see a lot more international
• 56:16
  programs and films come over.
• 56:17
  Things like Money Heist, Lu Pen.
• 56:20
  There's a lot of really cool stuff like on Netflix and whatnot, and it, and
• 56:24
  they're being dubbed in English, which is good for, you know, American audiences.
• 56:27
  You can watch it in the native language or native tongue if you want.
• 56:30
  Right.
• 56:30
  I like the fact that we're cross-pollinating now.
• 56:33
  But, you know, talking about Lost Bullet.
• 56:34
  I'm with you.
• 56:35
  I mean, that opening scene where he puts like the Lambo motor, the back of
• 56:38
  his cle and he, he's trying to like run through the bank and stuff and I'm like.
• 56:42
  What the heck is this?
• 56:43
  And then after that it just, it kind of opened up and I was like, hello?
• 56:48
  I'm like, Hey, I got sucked in.
• 56:50
  Yeah, exactly.
• 56:51
  In, and I was exactly like, you looking at my girlfriend,
• 56:53
  like, what, what is this shit?
• 56:56
  And, and then, and she's like, just stick with it.
• 56:58
  And I stuck with it and I was like, oh, this is great.
• 57:00
  I agree with you that I'm really enjoying the fact that films and, and
• 57:05
  television shows from around the world are becoming more mainstream now.
• 57:09
  When I was growing up, when I was in film school, we were watching John Wu
• 57:13
  films and, and Hong Kong stuff free and stuff like Old Boy and all that stuff.
• 57:18
  That was really a niche market, you know, only certain film cinephiles
• 57:23
  would dig and now it's all mainstream.
• 57:26
  Yeah.
• 57:26
  So every show that you've just mentioned, Lupin and, and
• 57:30
  have you guys seen the Bureau?
• 57:31
  No, I haven't watched it yet.
• 57:33
  No.
• 57:33
  Watch it.
• 57:33
  Yeah.
• 57:33
  It's a French show.
• 57:35
  It's a espionage type thing.
• 57:37
  Oh, nice.
• 57:38
  Slow burn.
• 57:39
  Fantastic.
• 57:39
  One of the best shows I've seen in 10 years.
• 57:42
  I'm a big fan of Money Heist Man.
• 57:44
  That is, that's, you know, there's a lot of stuff around the world and I'm
• 57:48
  glad that Netflix, you know, they have the money to make the card shuffling
• 57:53
  that's going on right now, you know, with the, the Paramount Pluses and the
• 57:57
  Discovery Pluses and the Hulus and the Disney, and they're all plus now, right?
• 58:00
  Plus this and plus that.
• 58:01
  I think it, it helped Netflix actually diversify the portfolio because I've
• 58:06
  been with Netflix for such a long time.
• 58:08
  I mean, in the early days, you know, going back to the DVD era, and then it was
• 58:12
  like, oh, we have the streaming service.
• 58:13
  Do you want to try it?
• 58:14
  It was like in the A OL CD in the mail, you know what I mean?
• 58:17
  The stuff that was on Netflix back then, it was like, oh, it's, it's
• 58:21
  Muskrat manner with like, what's his face, you know, Sam Wise Gaji from
• 58:24
  the Lord of the Rings is the narrator.
• 58:27
  What's his, I can't remember his real name right now, but you know
• 58:29
  exactly what I'm talking about.
• 58:30
  John Austin.
• 58:31
  Sean Austin, exactly.
• 58:32
  So I'm like, that's like the beginning days and there was a lot
• 58:35
  of like, really indie stuff on there and it became so mainstream 'cause
• 58:39
  it was like one stop shopping.
• 58:41
  That was the well that everybody drank from.
• 58:43
  And now I'm kind of glad that we're back to some of the more diversified portfolio.
• 58:48
  And, and I'm, I mean, I'm a big Ang amplifi.
• 58:50
  I love British tv, so I like tapping into that kind of stuff.
• 58:54
  And, you know, getting exposure to what's going on over the pond.
• 58:57
  Let's talk about who are the secret petrolhead that we don't know about.
• 59:01
  You know, we know Tom Cruise, we know Paul Walker, we know Steve McQueen and,
• 59:05
  and, and, you know, all those guys.
• 59:07
  Were all petrolheads, but there's gotta be some other ones that maybe
• 59:10
  we're, we're not familiar with.
• 59:11
  So let's, let's go with that.
• 59:12
  Was Weinstein a Petrolhead?
• 59:14
  No, I don't think he ever drove.
• 59:16
  He always had a driver.
• 59:17
  I don't know about Secret.
• 59:19
  I mean, I've seen and met.
• 59:20
  Keanu Reeves with his ARC motorcycles.
• 59:23
  Mm.
• 59:23
  I've seen him.
• 59:25
  He's got a Chevelle too, right?
• 59:26
  Yeah.
• 59:27
  Brad Pitt I heard is a, uh, a big Petrolhead.
• 59:31
  The wrestler Goldberg.
• 59:32
  Oh, Goldberg, yes.
• 59:33
  Yeah, he's a, he, he was on a show, I thought it was on History Channel.
• 59:37
  They did a lot of, uh, the car stuff.
• 59:39
  He did a show way back in the day called The Bull Run, which
• 59:42
  is now like a rally, I think.
• 59:45
  Oh, okay.
• 59:45
  And Mike Musto was a contestant on that show with this.
• 59:49
  Oh, okay.
• 59:50
  68 Charger.
• 59:51
  I'm trying to think who else.
• 59:52
  I mean, so let me, I'll rephrase the question.
• 59:55
  Celebrities you have run into at some of these car shows that
• 59:58
  you didn't expect to see there.
• 59:59
  Jay Leno, you see all the time.
• 1:00:02
  I have a funny story about Jay Leno.
• 1:00:03
  Really quick.
• 1:00:04
  I was on that road, Angela's Crest, and I was in my Catherine's
• 1:00:08
  Haman and I'm flying up a hill.
• 1:00:11
  I'm probably doing about 90.
• 1:00:13
  In a, in a 40.
• 1:00:14
  Uh, but you know, it was a straightaway easy.
• 1:00:17
  I'm flying and coming down the hill is a yellow McLaren and it's flashing
• 1:00:22
  its lights at me, letting me know that there's a cop, and the closer it got.
• 1:00:27
  I was looking like who's driving it?
• 1:00:29
  And I see this big head.
• 1:00:31
  You mean big chin, right?
• 1:00:33
  He's got a huge no in it's like smoking.
• 1:00:37
  Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  And you could see it's Jay Leto.
• 1:00:38
  And I'm like, cool.
• 1:00:39
  And then it was like a month or so later I bumped into him at another
• 1:00:43
  car van and I said, dude, you saved me from getting a ticket.
• 1:00:46
  He's like, what are you talking about?
• 1:00:47
  And I told him and he is like, oh yeah.
• 1:00:49
  He is like, no problem.
• 1:00:50
  Uh, I was doing that for everyone.
• 1:00:51
  I'm like, well that, that was a cool little story.
• 1:00:54
  Nice.
• 1:00:54
  Um, there's a really big Porsche event every year in la.
• 1:00:59
  I can never pronounce it.
• 1:01:00
  It's like loof loin G in.
• 1:01:02
  There's something like that.
• 1:01:03
  It's huge, but it's put together by Patrick Long, I think Patrick Dempsey and
• 1:01:10
  another famous actor, I forgot who it was.
• 1:01:13
  And they do this huge air cooled nine 11 event every year.
• 1:01:18
  And the last time they did it was in 2019 and they did it
• 1:01:23
  at the Universal Pictures Lot.
• 1:01:26
  Oh wow.
• 1:01:26
  You get to go into the lot, which is huge.
• 1:01:30
  You walk around and there's all these air cooled nine elevens everywhere, like
• 1:01:34
  a thousand of them, and it was amazing.
• 1:01:36
  So I'm walking around and I'm like, wow, that's a really cool nine 11.
• 1:01:40
  But why am I getting this deja vu here?
• 1:01:44
  And I look around and sure enough, I'm standing right in the middle of
• 1:01:48
  the town center where back to the future was filmed, the clock tower.
• 1:01:53
  Oh wow.
• 1:01:54
  So everyone's freaking out about nine elevens and stuff.
• 1:01:56
  I'm freaking out because I'm standing next to the clock tower and that was
• 1:02:00
  pretty, I heard there's a DeLorean still rotting on the property there.
• 1:02:04
  Not too far from that set.
• 1:02:05
  Really?
• 1:02:06
  Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  It's one of the last of the, of the film cars that didn't
• 1:02:09
  get, is it still in the bush?
• 1:02:11
  Uh, yeah, I think so.
• 1:02:12
  It's, it's like one of the last film cars that didn't get either dismantled
• 1:02:15
  sold off or destroyed, and it's like still there on the property.
• 1:02:18
  I've seen on the street, I've seen, uh, DeLorean that are replicas of
• 1:02:24
  the one from the film, you know, with all the stuff complete with, um, Mr.
• 1:02:28
  Fusion.
• 1:02:29
  Yeah.
• 1:02:29
  Mr. Fusion.
• 1:02:30
  The, uh, the, the, there was, um, fog shooting out of the
• 1:02:34
  exhaust ports and all that.
• 1:02:35
  I've seen the Ghostbusters Ecto one, the Cadillac seen that.
• 1:02:39
  I've seen the Batmobile, the original Batmobile.
• 1:02:42
  Lot of cool stuff.
• 1:02:43
  Well, since you brought it up and you're talking about, you know, famous movie
• 1:02:46
  cars, there's been a lot of movie cars kind of destroyed over the years and
• 1:02:50
  there's, you know, rumors and wives tales about like, these big just parking lots
• 1:02:54
  full of Dodge chargers that are out there that are just kind of rotting in the sun.
• 1:02:58
  I mean, is that, is that, you know, from Dukes of Hazard or whatever, I
• 1:03:01
  mean, is that true or are there movie cars that you can get your hands
• 1:03:04
  on out there and do something with?
• 1:03:06
  I know if there is, I have no idea about it, but now you pique my interest, so
• 1:03:09
  I'm gonna probably have to do some, uh.
• 1:03:12
  Some research that would be great.
• 1:03:13
  Photography, uh, for me, I know there's like airplane
• 1:03:16
  graveyards and stuff like that.
• 1:03:18
  Out in the middle of nowhere, you know, photography's big.
• 1:03:22
  I mean, I guess out there with all these, you know, hot looking cars, it,
• 1:03:25
  it's not hard to take a bad picture.
• 1:03:26
  Right.
• 1:03:27
  So any tips and tricks for aspiring photographers?
• 1:03:30
  I mean, what are you using as your camera, stuff like that?
• 1:03:33
  I use Canon a, Canon five D Mark four.
• 1:03:36
  I use primarily two lenses, a 70 to 200 and, uh, 24 to 70.
• 1:03:42
  They're amazing cameras, but you'd be surprised what you can
• 1:03:45
  shoot with your iPhone nowadays.
• 1:03:48
  I've been hanging around some really, really good photographers, so I've
• 1:03:53
  been learning from them as well.
• 1:03:55
  The thing is, when you're taking a photo of a car, the difference
• 1:03:58
  between a photograph and a snapshot is positioning of the, of the, the photo.
• 1:04:04
  So just taking a shot of a car at a car show is super boring, so you want to try
• 1:04:10
  to do what's called the rule of thirds.
• 1:04:13
  If you know what that is to position the car cool.
• 1:04:16
  Blurred background or something like that, or one distinct
• 1:04:20
  really cool feature on the car.
• 1:04:22
  Uh, that's what I like to do, rather than just a regular car shot.
• 1:04:27
  It's hard to take shots of a car in motion to make it look like it's
• 1:04:31
  in motion with your cell phone, but it's easy to do on those cameras.
• 1:04:36
  That's kind of cool as well.
• 1:04:37
  And I'm really getting into black and white again.
• 1:04:40
  Trying to shoot in black and white is pretty cool.
• 1:04:42
  Nice.
• 1:04:42
  Not on film though.
• 1:04:43
  Still digital, all digital.
• 1:04:45
  Nice.
• 1:04:46
  Yeah, I, I, everything is digital nowadays, so very cool.
• 1:04:50
  But yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Uh, I'm not as well steeped in LA knowledge yet.
• 1:04:55
  That's right.
• 1:04:56
  So, while you're searching, just keep an eye out for the defender
• 1:04:59
  from the Viper TV series on NBC.
• 1:05:01
  'cause I, man, I, I would love to get my hands on something like that.
• 1:05:05
  My second unicorn is a falcon, you know, the Mad Max?
• 1:05:08
  Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Uh, with the big, uh, supercharger or whatever on the top of it.
• 1:05:12
  I've seen a couple of those around town.
• 1:05:15
  A Falcon XBGT.
• 1:05:16
  So, speaking of which mm-hmm.
• 1:05:18
  Most people don't realize.
• 1:05:19
  Eric Ana's a major petrolhead.
• 1:05:22
  Have you seen his movie?
• 1:05:23
  Love the Beast.
• 1:05:23
  Absolutely.
• 1:05:24
  So, uh, I love that film.
• 1:05:27
  Uh, Eric, Ben is supposed to be, I've never met him, but I've heard
• 1:05:29
  he is a real down to earth cool guy.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah.
• 1:05:32
  And I think that, that movie, I mean, it's a biopic, right?
• 1:05:35
  I mean, in real, in reality.
• 1:05:37
  But I think it speaks a lot to his true personality, who he is, his
• 1:05:40
  humble beginnings and all that.
• 1:05:42
  And if for anybody that hasn't seen it, it's totally worth watching.
• 1:05:45
  It's a fantastic film and I make it a point to watch it every year.
• 1:05:48
  Yeah, I pretty much watch it almost every year.
• 1:05:50
  I think it's one of my favorite car films as well, especially that
• 1:05:53
  opening sequence where he's driving, I forget which track it is in his 9
• 1:05:57
  9 3 cup car, and he is just talking.
• 1:05:59
  He's got that monologue and he's setting the stage and everything he says is true.
• 1:06:03
  I think of everybody that's spent time either as a coach or on track
• 1:06:07
  or has done some high performance driving it, it really does resonate.
• 1:06:10
  And I think he encapsulates that whole feeling and that
• 1:06:13
  monologue at the beginning.
• 1:06:14
  It's absolutely incredible.
• 1:06:16
  Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  There's something to be said and, and I know you can, can pick this
• 1:06:19
  up pretty quickly too, where, uh.
• 1:06:22
  You'll be with someone you'll know right off the bat that they can
• 1:06:24
  drive, you know, e everyone that talks blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:06:27
  My car does this, my car does that.
• 1:06:29
  I'm like, okay, cool.
• 1:06:30
  But like, there's certain people that have that mystique and Brock
• 1:06:34
  Yates Jr. Was one of those guys.
• 1:06:37
  What I've noticed over the years is that being at all these track events, the
• 1:06:40
  guys that look the grungiest and have like, you know, just don't give a crap.
• 1:06:45
  The best drivers.
• 1:06:46
  Well, welcome to GTN
• 1:06:51
  all my, all my coaches, all my instructors who look like Uncle Jesse from Duke dad,
• 1:06:58
  uh, could out drive everyone, you know, and I, and I thought that was awesome.
• 1:07:03
  So, yeah, so, so Mountain man, Dan, if you're listening, I, I'm sure you're
• 1:07:07
  smiling right now, so we're all good.
• 1:07:08
  Yeah, I, I love that.
• 1:07:09
  And it, it was great.
• 1:07:10
  And those are the people that I love being around because they just been
• 1:07:14
  there, done that have been doing it.
• 1:07:16
  They'll take their, you know, RV with a, a tow on it and they'll, they're retired
• 1:07:21
  and all they do is go from racetrack to racetrack, and that's all they do.
• 1:07:26
  Those are the people that if you really wanna learn how to drive, at
• 1:07:29
  least from my experience, are the people that you wanna be around.
• 1:07:31
  Absolutely.
• 1:07:32
  So I've got, I've got a question for you.
• 1:07:33
  You, you go to a lot of car shows and everything.
• 1:07:35
  You see a lot of people, there's a lot of money out in la.
• 1:07:38
  Is there one particular brand or manufacturer you would say.
• 1:07:43
  Is like the manufacturer of choice.
• 1:07:45
  And the reason I'm asking is when we went to Texas for the F1 race, it
• 1:07:49
  seemed like you could throw a stone in any direction and hit a McLaren.
• 1:07:53
  Yeah, McLaren seems to be the, uh, the the hot new thing.
• 1:07:58
  So you'll, you'll see a ton of them all the time.
• 1:08:01
  Yeah.
• 1:08:01
  PCH I'll pull over to get gas.
• 1:08:03
  There'll be 10 of 'em flying by before I, I fill up completely.
• 1:08:08
  And, uh, so I would say McLaren, Porsche, a lot of people are big fans of that.
• 1:08:13
  A lot of old muscle cars, which is really cool.
• 1:08:17
  But you're not gonna see, obviously, you're not gonna see a ton of them on
• 1:08:20
  the canyons and stuff like that, right.
• 1:08:21
  They're just cruising along, you know, loping.
• 1:08:24
  Are they coops or convertibles?
• 1:08:25
  Most of the time.
• 1:08:26
  Coops.
• 1:08:27
  You do see really?
• 1:08:28
  Every once in a while.
• 1:08:29
  Oh, there's a really cool place in Burbank called Bob's Big Boy.
• 1:08:34
  And every Friday it's like an old school.
• 1:08:38
  Think of American graffiti.
• 1:08:40
  Okay.
• 1:08:40
  Uh, if you guys remember that, are you from the east coast?
• 1:08:44
  Grew up eating at Bob's Big four.
• 1:08:46
  I mean, yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Don't have that.
• 1:08:48
  So they're in the Midwest.
• 1:08:50
  They're called like F Fishes or something like that.
• 1:08:52
  I mean, they've been around forever.
• 1:08:52
  Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  Went, I went to one in Ohio just like a two couple years ago.
• 1:08:56
  Yeah, they don't, we don't have that shit in New York.
• 1:08:58
  Do we have like White Castle?
• 1:08:59
  You got, you got pizza, you got the pies, got pizza.
• 1:09:02
  That's it.
• 1:09:03
  But they got the best bagels though.
• 1:09:05
  The bagels.
• 1:09:06
  Can I get a schmear?
• 1:09:08
  I need a schmear on my bagel.
• 1:09:09
  Locks on my bagels.
• 1:09:11
  So the Bob's big boy in Burbank is really well known and it's one
• 1:09:16
  of those places where they used to have like girls on roller skates.
• 1:09:18
  Yeah.
• 1:09:19
  The food and all that.
• 1:09:20
  So every Friday night there's a car show there every Friday night
• 1:09:24
  and it's always the same guys.
• 1:09:26
  Like, I've been there, you know, it's the garage queens and stuff, you
• 1:09:29
  know, but they have beautiful cars, so I, I really can't make fun of 'em.
• 1:09:32
  But favorite thing on the secret menu At In-N-Out Burger.
• 1:09:35
  Go two by two or three by three animal style.
• 1:09:39
  That's, and a rooter flute.
• 1:09:41
  It's the longest menu that doesn't exist.
• 1:09:43
  But anyway, keep going.
• 1:09:46
  There's, uh, if you guys know Mel Steiner, not from Happy Days, right?
• 1:09:50
  No, not from Happy Days.
• 1:09:52
  Uh, it's from, uh, the American Graffiti was shot.
• 1:09:54
  Yeah, there.
• 1:09:55
  So there's two of 'em here.
• 1:09:57
  One of them is in Hollywood, or I think West Hollywood or Hollywood.
• 1:10:01
  And then the second one.
• 1:10:03
  Is right down the street from me, right here in Sherman Oaks, uh, where I live.
• 1:10:08
  And uh, that's kind of cool.
• 1:10:10
  Nice.
• 1:10:10
  So retro and all that.
• 1:10:11
  And you'll see some cool cars.
• 1:10:12
  You haven't mentioned anything about Lowriders and Lowriders have so like,
• 1:10:16
  started in Southern California and I haven't heard you say anything about 'em
• 1:10:19
  is, I mean, is that culture still big?
• 1:10:22
  The Lowrider culture out there?
• 1:10:23
  Yeah, it, it definitely is, but it, I could be completely wrong, but I think
• 1:10:28
  that culture is in a certain area of la I definitely have seen car shows
• 1:10:34
  where it's, you know, all the cars going like this and all that crazy stuff,
• 1:10:39
  but I don't see them at the events that I go to, uh, in Malibu and the
• 1:10:45
  Canyons and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:10:47
  I'm, I'm fascinated by those cars.
• 1:10:49
  They, they, they amazing.
• 1:10:50
  Oh, I know nothing about 'em with the spinners and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:10:54
  They're a beautiful looking works of art.
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  I just don't know where to go.
• 1:10:59
  I mean, if I really wanted to, I can just go on Google and, and find out
• 1:11:03
  where there's a car show for that.
• 1:11:04
  Yeah.
• 1:11:04
  Yeah.
• 1:11:04
  But again, LA is so big just to go from here to like, let's say like
• 1:11:09
  Inglewood or something like that, or Compton or Long Beach is an hour.
• 1:11:14
  Yeah.
• 1:11:14
  And away and you're still in la.
• 1:11:16
  Crazy.
• 1:11:17
  So I've been trying to find all these little pockets of where
• 1:11:21
  to go and, and, and hang out.
• 1:11:23
  And it just so happens that I'm closer to Malibu and Venice and
• 1:11:29
  uh, all those areas for car shows.
• 1:11:31
  So, since you brought it up, before I get into my next question, have you
• 1:11:34
  been down to the Grand Prix at Long?
• 1:11:36
  No, I haven't.
• 1:11:37
  I I was just talking to a horse experienced instructor who lives in Long
• 1:11:44
  Beach and he was telling me, you should definitely come down because you could
• 1:11:48
  see the track and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:11:49
  So I've driven the streets when it wasn't a track.
• 1:11:52
  'cause I had gone down there just to do that.
• 1:11:54
  'cause you could do it, it's all in the streets.
• 1:11:55
  But how cool would it be if you could, let's say on the Thursday they do
• 1:11:59
  an open de or something like that.
• 1:12:01
  That would be slick.
• 1:12:01
  Right?
• 1:12:02
  That'd be awesome.
• 1:12:02
  Or like, even if they don't wanna go that crazy and to just have
• 1:12:05
  like go-karts or something like that, that would be amazing.
• 1:12:07
  I'll do the celebrity Celica from back in the day.
• 1:12:10
  Like, let's go for it, man.
• 1:12:11
  I, I'm still trying to convince Eric to go out there with me to watch
• 1:12:15
  the trophy trucks at Long Beach.
• 1:12:16
  Dude, that's cool.
• 1:12:17
  Watching that on TV is fantastic.
• 1:12:20
  What I've noticed in LA is because it's so big, if you live in certain
• 1:12:25
  areas of la like let's say you live in Santa Monica, you're gonna, for
• 1:12:30
  the most part, stay in Santa Monica.
• 1:12:33
  In that area because it's such a pain to get out of it, to go anywhere.
• 1:12:36
  So people just like stay in that area.
• 1:12:39
  And I don't have that mentality yet because, uh, I'm still learning about
• 1:12:44
  LA and I don't mind driving everywhere.
• 1:12:47
  I don't mind saying, okay, I'll meet you at your house and
• 1:12:49
  you, you're 40 minutes away.
• 1:12:51
  No problem.
• 1:12:52
  I'll, I'll, I'll be there.
• 1:12:53
  Plus I love to drive, you know, so, uh, I, it doesn't bother me, but people here
• 1:12:58
  are, are like, if they live in Venice and I live in Sherman Oaks, uh, they're like,
• 1:13:03
  no, I'm, I'm not coming to visit you.
• 1:13:05
  You know, like, we'll meet halfway.
• 1:13:07
  I'm like, all right, whatever.
• 1:13:09
  And I'll never forget the first time I went out to LA and
• 1:13:11
  there's that one section where all the highways come together.
• 1:13:13
  It's like the five and the 10 and the whatever.
• 1:13:15
  It's like, and I think I counted nine lanes on my side of the highway, and I
• 1:13:19
  was like, I need to get off over there.
• 1:13:22
  Right.
• 1:13:22
  I'm not, I'm not used to that.
• 1:13:23
  Like, you know, our widest highways here, what, four lanes wide?
• 1:13:26
  I mean, it's, it's, it's bumpers.
• 1:13:27
  Yeah.
• 1:13:28
  Yeah.
• 1:13:28
  It's pretty crazy.
• 1:13:29
  So the, I think one of the biggest congestion points is.
• 1:13:33
  Taking the 1 0 1 to the 4 0 5.
• 1:13:35
  Okay.
• 1:13:36
  So what happens is, is that the 1 0 1 is like five or six lanes, and then
• 1:13:40
  to get to the 4 0 5, it's one lane.
• 1:13:43
  One lane, dude.
• 1:13:45
  So I lived, my first apartment was in North Hollywood and
• 1:13:50
  my office is in Santa Monica.
• 1:13:51
  Take me an hour and like 30 minutes to go.
• 1:13:55
  12, like 14 miles.
• 1:13:57
  Oh my god.
• 1:13:58
  Insane.
• 1:13:59
  So I bought a Ducati and I would take the back roads and just, you
• 1:14:03
  know, lane splitting is legal here.
• 1:14:05
  So I would just creep up, you know, to the lights and I would make it in 30 minutes.
• 1:14:10
  What Ducati did you get?
• 1:14:11
  Monster?
• 1:14:12
  8 21. Nice.
• 1:14:14
  Nice bike and, uh, cool bike.
• 1:14:16
  I put Terminis on it and, and all that.
• 1:14:18
  Going back to what I said when we first started talking, they're the worst drivers
• 1:14:23
  and I pretty much almost die on the bike.
• 1:14:26
  And I actually got into a, it's a whole other story, but I got
• 1:14:29
  into a really bad situation.
• 1:14:32
  With a guy, road rage and uh, attacked me, screwed up my, uh, leg.
• 1:14:37
  I had four surgeries.
• 1:14:40
  Wow.
• 1:14:40
  God, that's a whole other story.
• 1:14:42
  So that was like, okay, I think I'm not gonna ride a bike in LA anymore.
• 1:14:46
  If I do get a bike, I'm only going to use it on a Sunday morning at five in the
• 1:14:49
  morning and go to the crest or something.
• 1:14:52
  Yeah.
• 1:14:52
  LA was living in North Hollywood.
• 1:14:54
  It was horrible.
• 1:14:55
  So I moved.
• 1:14:56
  To Sherman Oaks, just to bypass that 4 0 5 1 0 1 connection.
• 1:15:02
  So I'm right on the 4 0 5.
• 1:15:04
  Now it takes me 30 minutes or four.
• 1:15:06
  Wow.
• 1:15:06
  And it's a three mile difference.
• 1:15:08
  This like North Hollywood is three or four miles away from me.
• 1:15:11
  It's horrible.
• 1:15:13
  We've been talking a lot about the car culture, the differences,
• 1:15:15
  you know, all this kind of thing.
• 1:15:16
  But I also find, you know, as you said, LA is huge.
• 1:15:19
  It's dense, it's one of the, you know, one of the largest
• 1:15:21
  cities in the United States.
• 1:15:22
  But I also find it, you know, as we're continue to talk about car
• 1:15:25
  culture to be a bit bipolar, right?
• 1:15:27
  And so I wanna touch on the fact that you're, you've been
• 1:15:29
  talking a lot about sports cars.
• 1:15:31
  You got guys with the McLaren's and the Ferrari's and the Porsches, and then
• 1:15:34
  you have the other contingent, right?
• 1:15:36
  And I'm not, I'm not here to throw shade, but I'm talking about
• 1:15:38
  the EV revolution folks, right?
• 1:15:41
  So yeah, look, you got this weird seesaw going on where you have a huge
• 1:15:45
  car culture, people that are invested in the petrol world, and then you've
• 1:15:48
  got the other side where it's all about the Teslas and the Priuses and the, the
• 1:15:52
  Nissan Leafs and all that stuff, right?
• 1:15:54
  So, oh, I'm glad to talk about those guys.
• 1:15:56
  I mean, out here, the biggest thing is the Prius in the left lane.
• 1:16:00
  It's weird here that in New York, at least, if I'm in the
• 1:16:03
  left lane and I'm doing 80 and you're doing 70 a lot of the time.
• 1:16:09
  They'll get out of the way.
• 1:16:10
  Maybe every once in a while I'll flash my lights really quick
• 1:16:13
  and they'll get outta the way.
• 1:16:15
  That does not exist in la It doesn't.
• 1:16:18
  I go faster on the 4 0 5 in the right lane than in the left lane.
• 1:16:23
  I pass everyone, I don't get it there.
• 1:16:25
  I don't know if it's a sense of entitlement, just lack of situational
• 1:16:30
  awareness or they just don't give an F. So that's the Prius problem with Teslas.
• 1:16:36
  They're all over the place, dude.
• 1:16:38
  All over the place.
• 1:16:39
  But I mean, are you seeing a shift or is there more of a blend?
• 1:16:42
  Like the guy that's got the McLaren, he DA is a Tesla or something like that?
• 1:16:46
  I mean, yeah, I think the guy that's got the McLaren is
• 1:16:48
  probably, uh, daily a, a tie can.
• 1:16:51
  You know, and so, I mean, look, the Teslas are fast as hell and they actually
• 1:16:57
  handle pretty good because of the lo, you know, the center of gravity thing.
• 1:17:01
  I do love them.
• 1:17:01
  I would love getting a model three as a, as a daily.
• 1:17:05
  They're just so bland.
• 1:17:07
  There's only like, what, three colors?
• 1:17:10
  You know, four colors so that you see 'em all the time.
• 1:17:12
  Every once in a while you'll see someone that like put a matte
• 1:17:15
  wrap on it or something like that, and that's pretty cool.
• 1:17:18
  I'm seeing a lot of them on the road now.
• 1:17:21
  A lot.
• 1:17:22
  I think it, it is definitely the wave of the future.
• 1:17:24
  You know, every car is gonna, it didn't be who just said that they're
• 1:17:27
  not doing combustion engines in it.
• 1:17:29
  Audi.
• 1:17:29
  Audi did, but that's, I mean, VW said that a couple years ago and they're the parent
• 1:17:33
  company, so it was only a matter of time.
• 1:17:36
  Look, I, I, I think it's smart and I think it's the way to go,
• 1:17:39
  but you know, these cars that we drive are always gonna be around.
• 1:17:43
  I'm glad that you have the option now to, to do both.
• 1:17:47
  Hopefully not every car in the future is gonna be electric.
• 1:17:51
  They're still gonna do internal combustion, naturally aspirated, you
• 1:17:54
  know, engines and stuff, but who knows.
• 1:17:56
  So what's the infrastructure like in, in LA for all these EVs?
• 1:18:00
  Or is it just everybody's got a garage?
• 1:18:03
  I mean, there's, I'm sure there's plenty of street parking, just like in New York.
• 1:18:06
  So how are these folks managing, you know, LA being so big, there's
• 1:18:10
  a lot more space here than New York.
• 1:18:12
  Okay.
• 1:18:12
  So get, finding parking is extremely easy.
• 1:18:16
  And it freaked me out because I was like, I gotta leave 20 minutes earlier
• 1:18:21
  'cause I'm never gonna find Park.
• 1:18:23
  And it's like, whoop, you're like the only car on the street.
• 1:18:25
  You know what I mean?
• 1:18:26
  Plus there's like garages everywhere and it's like a, like the public parking and
• 1:18:31
  it's like a dollar, you know, maybe $2.
• 1:18:34
  And in L in New York, it's like $50 for an hour.
• 1:18:37
  So that freaked me out too.
• 1:18:38
  So I was like, uh, wow, this is amazing.
• 1:18:41
  The infrastructure here is different.
• 1:18:43
  There's like power stations or whatever they're called everywhere.
• 1:18:47
  And because there's so much space, people have garages all the time.
• 1:18:52
  And, uh, the more modern buildings in townhouses or apartment
• 1:18:56
  buildings have designated bots for EV cars, which is very cool.
• 1:19:01
  The last apartment I lived in had like one complete floor just for EV charging.
• 1:19:07
  Wow.
• 1:19:07
  That's pretty cool.
• 1:19:08
  At least some forward thinking.
• 1:19:10
  I mean, I think the challenge we have here on the East coast is we're
• 1:19:13
  always kind of concerned with the mileage game, the range game, right?
• 1:19:17
  But because I think the problem is the infrastructure is so much
• 1:19:20
  older because, you know, the east coast was settled first.
• 1:19:23
  There's a lot of old, you know, look at Boston, look at dc
• 1:19:26
  look at Philadelphia, right?
• 1:19:28
  Retrofit all that infrastructure is, is a very big challenge.
• 1:19:32
  And people are like, well, why can't you just do it because
• 1:19:34
  you can't, you know what I mean?
• 1:19:36
  It, it, it doesn't happen overnight.
• 1:19:37
  So it's very interesting to see the difference West versus east out here.
• 1:19:42
  Again, because of space.
• 1:19:44
  They are very forward thinking out here and, uh, it, it, it's pretty cool.
• 1:19:49
  There's the, the care for the environment is extremely, uh, big topic here.
• 1:19:54
  There's a lot of liberals and you know, and there's a lot of people, there's a
• 1:19:59
  lot of hippies and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:20:01
  It's, it's la you know, it's California.
• 1:20:03
  I like it.
• 1:20:04
  I love it.
• 1:20:05
  I just want them to get the hell out of the way in the, in the left lane.
• 1:20:09
  That's my main concern.
• 1:20:11
  Well, I mean, it's 72 mile an hour.
• 1:20:12
  That Prius is pretty much floored, so you can only go so fast.
• 1:20:16
  So the speed limit here, for the most part is 65.
• 1:20:19
  When you start going out of the city, it gets to about 70.
• 1:20:22
  I have to say though, people fly on these roads except for the Prius.
• 1:20:28
  I'll be doing 80 and I'll get passed by a Celica doing 90 or, and it's common.
• 1:20:34
  They just book and you know, I have the common courtesy.
• 1:20:37
  If I'm in the left lane and I see a guy approaching, I get out of the way
• 1:20:40
  going back to really quick to, uh, to driving on the track and whatnot.
• 1:20:45
  This comes back to me driving on the street.
• 1:20:48
  Jay Tepper gave me some really good advice on how to keep my skills
• 1:20:54
  sharp while driving on the highway.
• 1:20:56
  And what he said was, do not stay in the left lane.
• 1:20:59
  He's like, because you become content in the left lane and all you do is
• 1:21:03
  just like this, go through the traffic.
• 1:21:06
  You're always looking around you that'll keep your, you know, keep you sharp.
• 1:21:10
  And it's so true.
• 1:21:11
  And when I was driving up the button, Willow, I was doing the exact same thing.
• 1:21:15
  I was in the left lane.
• 1:21:16
  I'm like, oh man, I wanna have some fun with this.
• 1:21:19
  9, 8, 7. So I was going, but gingerly, you know, not being an asshole.
• 1:21:24
  Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  I mean it's, it's like being door to door with you and 500 of your closest friends.
• 1:21:29
  Yeah.
• 1:21:30
  Not too different than the track.
• 1:21:32
  So Paul, it has been a blast reconnecting and, and getting to hear about what the
• 1:21:36
  West Coast is like and doing the compare and contrast and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:21:39
  And I, and like I said, you are sorely missed around the paddock.
• 1:21:42
  I mean, we always had a lot of fun at the track events and it, it's
• 1:21:45
  just not the same, but you know.
• 1:21:47
  I guess the more things go forward, the more we have to change.
• 1:21:49
  We have to adapt and, and come on to new things.
• 1:21:51
  So it's good to hear all these new stories and and all that.
• 1:21:54
  So for all of you that are listening out there and you wanna check out some of
• 1:21:58
  Paul's work and what he's into, be sure to follow him on Instagram at Paul W 1138.
• 1:22:05
  You can see some of the fantastic pictures, some of the stuff he's
• 1:22:07
  working on, and you can also check out some of the stuff he's
• 1:22:10
  working on over at Myriad Pictures.
• 1:22:12
  So thanks for coming on the show, Paul.
• 1:22:13
  This has been fantastic.
• 1:22:15
  My pleasure.
• 1:22:15
  Thanks for inviting me guys.
• 1:22:22
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