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FFOD331 : How We Got Hunting on the Golf Channel · Fist Full of Dirt

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Fistful of Dirt, the official podcast of Monte Oak Properties.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: Whether you own a small farm, leased land, or just love hanging in your backyard.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: We're all about the outdoor lifestyle and how to get the most from your time in God's great outdoors.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Now here's your host, Ronnie Cut Strickland.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_06: Oh I was trying to get that under the gun.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_08: That sounds like a can of bush beer.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_06: That's 50 water.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_08: You know, back when uh just Bubba, you know, he went through a bushlight phase and he took pride in how loud he could open one.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_08: That's what I'd say.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_08: That's what it reminded me.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_08: He don't do that no more.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_08: So don't, don't, don't think less of Bubba, but there he went through a bush light phase.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_06: That's so funny.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_08: Bam! He'd open that thing and look at you and just wink like he was the best opener around.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_06: I love it.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_06: I was trying to squeak that in before you started talking.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_08: Semi-live from the Camo Cemi Live.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_08: Lauren opening her bush light.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_06: That's fizzy water.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_06: Fizzywater.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_06: Bubbly.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_08: Speaking of refreshments, have you been keeping up with uh the is it the World Cup?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_06: It's the World Cup.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_06: Like I know you're not a soccer guy, but you're a food guy.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_06: You have to just be eating up these posts from the Europeans.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they're uh traveling all, and there's one that got real famous.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_08: Freddie.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_08: Freddie.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_08: And they're all going to the Waffle House and Bucky's and uh the Texas Roadhouse.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_08: And they are just in love with the food.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: If you are not in the World Cup fans trying American food for the very first time, algorithm right now on social media, you need to get there immediately.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: It is pure joy.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_02: Now, while the soccer has been great, the real entertainment is watching the rest of the world discover America for the very first time.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: You've got Brits, their minds being blown trying biscuits and gravy for the first time.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, soak it in, big boy.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: They're good, aren't they?
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: And fans making cross-country trips for Philly cheesesteaks, Texas barbecue, Chick-fil-A, and Bucky's.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: And run a burger.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: What's coming into my World Cup and trying Chick-fil-A for the first time.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my days.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in America.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I can't have been hearing about the house.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: This run is nuts.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta be neither the Canadian nor the English brain can comprehend this at this moment in time.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: This sandwich was made by the Lord himself.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, this is amazing.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: America, what have you guys done to me?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: I have become taco.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_02: Obsessed.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: Tacos.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: Mmm, my god.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_03: I'm an iPod and I've ordered the chicken.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: I've never seen this before in my life.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: A good chicken.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then there's ranch dressing.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: The reaction to ranch dressing is having a World Cup of its own.
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  SPEAKER_02: It has gotten so out of hand that TSA is literally reminding World Cup fans heading home that if you're bringing bottles of ranch or Chick-fil-A sauce back to Europe, put it in your check bag.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then there are the free drink refills.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: The look on people's faces when they realize that drink is getting refilled for free is priceless.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: But my favorite part of all this is seeing visitors post the same thing over and over again.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: Americans are so nice, they're so kind, they're so fun, and then America is pretty freaking awesome.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: And at this point, I'm convinced that if we hosted the World Cup every year and unite humanity over a beer, barbecue, waffle house, and unlimited Coke refills.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_08: And I know soccer's big.
• 4:15
  unknown: Yeah.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_08: Well, this has been a big sports week.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_08: You know, uh course everybody around here is Mississippi State, and they, you know, they they won their regional and then and lost the super regional and to Georgia, who went on to the College World Series.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_08: I was I was kind of pulling for Troy State.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I know, the underdogs.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_08: They they had to bring they had to go like Barry's stadium seats and bleachers when they were in their regional.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_08: It's a small school.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_06: Good for them.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and uh, I watched all that kind of stuff, and then last week was the the US Open.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I thought you were fixing talking about the UFC fight on the White House lawn.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_08: I just had that conversation with Bill Sugg.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_08: He was over here visiting us, and I knew he didn't watch it, but I was talking about all the uh the military theme to that thing and how all the all the fighters walking out had military escorts and and uh Medal of Honor winners and wounded vets and I and I and all the people losing their mind the next day about you know that cost so much money, and and immediately Dana White, who won, you know, one of the owners, came out and said, Hey, hold hold your horses.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_06: I paid for everything.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_08: It lost millions of dollars because they would say, Well, we're gonna do that again.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_08: No.
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  SPEAKER_06: Cost too much money.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_08: Cost too much money.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_08: And then him and Trump went and gave the people in the military band some kind of huge bonus after it was all over.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_06: They should have.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_06: That band did an insanely good job.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_06: One of the guys came out to a techno song and they somehow made it work as a live band.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_06: I'm like, there's nothing that band can't do.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_08: I think it's the greatest sporting event ever I've watched anyway.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, there was all people complaining the next day.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_08: I'm like, you know what?
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_08: I don't get involved in that, and still didn't, but if you start throwing darts at people honored the military, shame on you.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_06: Shame on you.
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  SPEAKER_08: Shame on you.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_08: Because boy, they did a good job of that.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they did.
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  SPEAKER_06: It was highly entertaining too.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, we I was having this conversation.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_08: I forgot who it was, talking about all the sport stuff going on, which you know, the soccer thing.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_08: I wasn't even talking about the World Cup.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_08: I was talking about food and the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_08: Open thing.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_08: And this this guy, he said, uh, didn't y'all have a show on the golf channel?
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_08: I went, yeah, yeah.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_08: For a year.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_06: Second season.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_08: And he's like, Man, you need to talk about that.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_06: I miss right.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I mentioned it to Lauren and uh Lauren's uh watermark, her test is throw a post out there.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_08: So I found some, I got in my closet up here and I found some pictures.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_08: And I hadn't post- I just posted a couple of me and Fuzzy Zeller.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_08: It was uh uh a hunt we went on in Alaska, which I'm gonna talk about.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_08: But I threw those pictures up and I said I found some old disposable camera photos this week.
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  SPEAKER_08: This is from an Alaska hunt with the late Fuzzy Zeller for Mossy Oak's second season show on the Gov Channel.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_08: Hard to believe we pulled that off.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_08: Would the second season project be a worthy of a fistful of dirt podcast?
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_08: How it happened, the pitfalls, and the lucky breaks.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_08: There's some pretty good stories around the show.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_08: Bam! People started commenting, especially on Facebook.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_08: Nice.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_08: And uh Shane Bramman's first comment said, Golf and hunting, that sounds right up my alley since the I got my first turkey on a golf course.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_08: Oh my goodness.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_08: And the comments just went on and on and on.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_08: So one of the biggest downloaded podcasts we ever did, I kind of told the history of Hunting the Country.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_06: That's right, yeah.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_08: Which everybody knows what Hunting the Country was.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_08: It was a 20-year run that was flagship show.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and not everything was smooth sailing.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_08: There was nothing smooth sailing about this show.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_08: And uh so with uh I guess uh Lauren said, Yeah, I I'm not sure.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_08: I know, did you edit some of that?
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_06: Was that all Ben Bachman, or do you remember that was all Ben Bachman, and I want to say Daniel Odom built that open because they it was like before we had all the green screen stuff up here, so he was having to like manually go in with his pen and like cut things out and put them like from their golf apparel to their hunting apparel and switch it from the golf course to the Deer Woods, and it was a really cool show opening for how long ago that was.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_06: It was like cutting edge at the time.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_08: It was crazy how good that opening was.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_08: I hope you can find it.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_06: I hope I can too.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_06: If I can, I'll post it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, the the way that all came about, so I've always been a golfer, and I don't say I'm a good golfer, but you don't have to be good to enjoy it.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_08: I'm you know uh just grew up real close to uh a little golf course down in Natchez, Duncan Park, which was nine holes.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_08: And uh that's what I did during the summer.
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  SPEAKER_08: We didn't have money to go pay the green fee.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_08: I'd go over on my bicycle, a Schwin with high-rise handlebars and a leopard-looking skin seat, and I would hide it in the woods and I would go find golf balls and sell them.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_08: And uh, which was an art form because the guy that ran the golf course, he also sold balls and he you couldn't do that.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_08: I had to hide in the woods like I was selling dope.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_08: You know, they'd come by and I'd have some new club specials.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, just lived on that golf course and ended up playing a lot.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_08: I've always liked it, enjoyed it big time.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_08: And just as the uh interwebs was coming out there, and uh I was looking and people were just building webs.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_08: This was all really new way back then.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I guess it was the PGA or somebody had a website and I went to it just researching the golfers.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_08: And it would have, you know, their name and where they were from and all that stuff and a lot of stats.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_08: But one of the categories was hobbies.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_08: And I was astounded how many of them listed.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_08: But you would think nowadays you might see one say fishing, yeah.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_08: But it was hunting and fishing, hunting and fishing, hunting and fishing.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_08: It was a bunch of them on there.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_08: And I was just having a conversation with Toxie, and uh, you know, we were deep in the TV business by then.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, look at all these golfers who who listed hunting and fishing.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_08: And uh he uh he said, Well, that might be a TV show there, boom.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_08: So the so the idea was formed.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I can't remember who I worked on, and you said Ben Bogman was there, but at the time it was Tack, me and Tack Robinson.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I feel like I don't remember, I think I went to a an event or something, I said that that would be a good show because the golf channels get just getting started and they were looking for programming.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_08: And uh and I thought and thought and thought, nobody in that golf world knew who we were, and I was like, that's gonna be a tough introduction.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_08: And somebody, and I think if I'm not mistaken, I think it was David Plum.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_08: You remember him?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_06: I do.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_08: He worked for us for a long time, just a super sell.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_08: He was a great seller, but he played professional golf.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_07: Uh-huh.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_08: He's on the Nike tour and all that, and was talking.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_08: I think I was talking to him about it, and he introduced or he got me in touch with a guy named Doug Holt.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_08: Doug Holt worked for Nike Golf, and he's the guy that put all that together, signed like Tiger Woods and David Duvall.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_08: But this guy was a big time hunter.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_08: And I got to meet him and tell him about the project.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_08: And he was interested.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_08: And you know, looking back, I was thinking it'd be cool if Nike would sponsor a hunting and fishing show.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_08: Uh but anyway, in the midst of meeting Doug Holt, I invited him to go hunting.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_08: And this is a s and look, this is a this guy's a big deal.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_08: Can you imagine being in charge of golf at Nike?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, this guy's like big time.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_08: He's big time.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_08: So I invited him on a deer hunt.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_08: We went to a place I gonna talk about the place that was in East Texas, and and I got hoodwinked a little bit on it.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, I was like, I uh I I got got sold a little bit of a bill of goods.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, I took Doug Holt down there and was gonna visit with him and kind of feel him out a little bit.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_08: And then I got to thinking, I was well, I could make a pilot show out of this guy.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_08: What a great interview.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_08: What all that's going on and that would be something the golf show would listen to.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, we hunted and hunted, and not only did we not see any deer, I didn't see any deer tracks.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_08: Oh I didn't see any deer sign.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_08: I took it I got down in a low creek sandy creek ditch bank thing one day and I walked it for probably an hour and a half and didn't see one one deer track, nothing.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_06: There's no tracks.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_08: Nothing.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_08: And I was like, oh my God.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_08: And he was being a good sport about it, and I felt so anyway.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_08: We're staying at this place.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_08: I called a buddy and he was in Missouri and he's got one of the best ranches.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, it's just phenomenal.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_08: It was getting rut time up there and all that kind of stuff, and I called him, told him what was going on.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_08: I said, Can I can I bring this guy up there?
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_06: From Texas to Missouri.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_08: And I he said, sure.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_06: Now it's an NVIDIA.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_08: So now we get out, we get uh we he comes in after the we get through hunting in uh the afternoon.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_08: We didn't see anything, and I was thinking, I wonder how I'm gonna break into this.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_08: So we're we're easing back in there and I said, Hey Doug, how how would you feel about changing spots?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_08: And he said, Yeah, I ain't seen a deer.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_08: He said, Where are you gonna move me to?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_08: I said, Missouri.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_08: He thought and he thought that was the coolest thing.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_08: So we loaded, I had that that Dodge Mega Ram mega cab truck at the time.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_08: Loaded all stuff up, and we left five in the afternoon.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_07: That is so cool.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_08: And we we stopped somewhere to fuel up, and we hadn't eaten.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_08: I was trying to get there in time so we could hunt the morning.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_08: And we I said, I'll grab us something to eat in here, and I went in and I I got like five or six bottles of water and a Pepsi, something else, and some corn dogs.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_08: And it's like midnight, one in the morning.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_08: I looked over there and I said, That guy's like the CEO of Nike Golf eating a stale corn dog in my truck.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_08: Look, he loved it.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_06: Of course he did.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_08: He uh and he killed a really nice deer.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, good.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't know where the story was going.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_06: I had not heard that.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_08: He killed a great deer.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_08: And anyway, that's kind of how I made the pilot.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_08: I made the pilot with him.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_08: He did the greatest interview, and I had him, he lined me up a caddy or something.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, I I built the guts.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_08: And then my thought was, and this was a mistake, here's something you can learn here.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_08: I thought if I put this pilot together and could tell the golf channel what my plans were, they would bite on it.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_06: They gotta see it, don't they?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_08: You you can't you can't transfer your mental dreams.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, Doug got me the the appointment at the golf channel in Orlando, and I went down there with my high processed beta tape and all that kind of stuff and showed it to him and and basically got thrown out.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_08: I remember at one point we're like into this thing, and it's about to be over, and I paused it to say something, and this guy looked at me and said, Your name's Cuz, and you want to do what?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_08: Oh no on the golf channel.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_08: So basically I was thrown out of the golf channel.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_08: And uh anyway.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_06: Dang.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's a that's the little kick in the pants right there.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_06: The worst they can say is no.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_06: They can also make fun of your name.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_08: Which they did, but anyway, uh, which made me more determined.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_08: And then somehow, and then and I kind of let the let the project lie a little bit.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_08: We had a lot going on, but anyway, we I think it might have been Tack or it could have been David Plum, I don't remember, got to talk to Gary Nicholas, one of Jack Nicholas's sons, who was burning it up then on the Nike tour.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_08: I don't think it was it might have been called the Nike Tour, it's the Corn Ferry Tour now or something.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, he's a Gary's big time bow hunter.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_08: So I went to uh I don't know, a tournament somewhere, and he he recognized me.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_08: I was like standing outside the ropes like a you know, a fan, whatever.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, talked him into going bow hunting with us, told him what we was doing.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_08: He said, Yeah, I'd do that.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_06: From the golf course?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_06: You're getting his attention like hey, same way with Boo Weekly.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_08: I just stood over on the other side of the ropes hollering, hey Boo, and I was wearing a camel mouse yoke shirt.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, Gary agreed to go on a bow hunt.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_08: And I said, now that would be a better pilot.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_08: That's in my mind.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_08: I'm just wanting to build a pilot.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_08: So I set this hunt up with Ky Booker down there in Texas.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_08: We used to go down there all the time.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_08: And uh anyway, and I kind of booked booked him a plane ticket, and booking tickets were different back then.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_08: If you involved the weekend, it was cheaper, blah, blah, blah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, I got everything lined up, and uh Gary Nicholas calls me like three days before the hunt.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_08: And uh he says, Hey, cuz, my dad wants to come.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, goodness gracious.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_08: And I tightened up a little bit, and I'm thinking, uh, your dad's like Jack Nicholas, right?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_08: I said, Yeah, yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_08: So I was so it ended up being Jack Nicholas.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_08: His uh his eldest son, Jackie, who actually caddied for him when he won the 86 Masters at age 46, Jackie was and Jackie's son and uh Gary and Paul, I think it was a just a the some the whole family.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I called Kai and he's like, Yeah, who you know, he was he don't care about that.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_08: And I can remember this like it was yesterday.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_08: They and I called him back because I was thinking about plane tickets.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_08: That's how stupid I was.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_08: And I was talking to him about maybe swapping the dates because if I could book them tickets to where they were on a get there on a Saturday and I think and I was having this conversation and he said, cuz he said, My dad kind of has his own plane.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_07: Kinda?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, kinda.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_08: I said, Okay.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, so they're gonna fly into I think it was uh I believe we f they flew into Victoria because we were going down to uh Kyle Booker's ranch.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_08: I can't remember the day.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_06: Wexford.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_08: Wexford hunting, yeah.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_08: Goliad.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_06: Goliad.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_08: And Victoria had a pretty anyway.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_08: I can remember me and Tack were at the airport.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_08: We're gonna pick them all up.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_08: I had that two-ton blue, two-ton blue GMC truck.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I think Tack had another truck because it was five of them, I think.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_08: All their gear.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, I'm sitting there.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_08: I've done this kind of stuff a million times, no big deal.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_08: And then I see this plane coming in touchdown, and it's some kind of jet, and it's got a golden bear face on the door.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, cool.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_08: And I could and my I got a pit in my stomach, and I remember thinking, dude, you may be in way over your head.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_08: Wow that's Jack Nicholas.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_08: Legend.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_08: You know, yeah, it's to me, you know, same feeling I had with Tom Kelly going hunting.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, because I grew up playing golf on a little nine-hole municipal court, used to watch Jack Nicholas something.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, they pull up there and the guy opens the gate so we can drive out there and get their gear at the FOB, whatever it is, and the door opens up, and he's the first one out.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_08: He's got a white t-shirt on, and he's got a fall-folded short sleeve shirt on and sunglasses.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_08: And he pulls his sunglasses down over the ridge of his nose and looks at me and says, Hey, cuz.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_08: And I thought I was gonna faint.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_08: He thought it was a 12-year-old girl meeting outside.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_08: But just uh and everybody introduced, you know, met Jackie's son and Paul on him.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_08: And uh anyway, as soon as we get down on the the the concrete down there, they're they're de boarding and all this kind of stuff.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_08: We get loaded up and Jack comes saying, I need to go to a bow shop.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_08: Now we're you're speaking my language.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so anyway, all he wants, you know, we we get this, we go to an artist shop, I don't remember the name, or I plug it, and they get this 12-year-old kid dialed in with a little bow on 40 pounds.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_08: He's a big boy, he's not little, and he's just knocking it out in there, you know.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I got all the bow cases in.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_08: I said, and I asked him, I said, Mr.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_08: Jack, you need to do anything with your bow?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_08: No, I'm good.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_08: He you know, I could you could just tell he was there for them.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_08: For them.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_08: And uh anyway, he we got there and Kai had everything laid out and all that stuff, and I can remember they were out there shooting their bow and uh Jack Nicholas set his bow down and opened it up, and I'm pretty sure it was a it was a PSE Mach one.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_08: The first year they came out with an overdraw and it had the bow the five inch feathers that looked like you'd stuck them into a hay bale backwards and a calf hair tab that was dried up.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_08: And I said, You need to shoot your bow, no, I'll be good.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_08: Unbothered.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_08: Unbothered, that's right.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_08: But uh anyway, one hunting that.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_08: Afternoon, he 10 rings a 10 point at 38 yards.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_08: On video.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_06: I remember.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my gosh.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_08: It's unbelievable.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_04: My dad took me hunting and fishing.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: He introduced me to things, he introduced me to all sports, he introduced me to hunting and fishing and so forth.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: And I enjoyed spending time with my dad.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_04: It was fun for me.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_04: So as soon as my boys boys were old enough, I started taking them fishing when they're five or six years old.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_04: And uh as soon as they were old enough really to go hunting, which was sort of maybe nine or ten years old.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: Matter of fact, uh Jackie, when he was 10 years old, got a uh single-shot savage shotgun for uh uh for for for his birthday, and that passed down to each one of my kids, and it's passed on to Jackie's boy, Matt.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_05: Period, Mr.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_05: Jack.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_05: Period.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my god, he didn't go 30 yards maybe.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, what a deer! Congratulations.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you, friend.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_05: G2s all made it like that.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, give me flat.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_04: Threes are nice and high and uh not real wide, but he's uh he's tall and and he's a mature deer.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_04: He looks like holding it.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_05: I'm guessing five and a half.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_05: Five and a half right uh right at his peak.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_08: I think everybody killed.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_08: I got a great picture I'll pose when this goes up of the whole fan.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_08: They killed, I think, three or four nice bucks, bow hunting only.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_08: These people were serious, but I can remember how nice everybody was.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_06: What a pleasant surprise when you meet like kind of a hero or a good guy.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, the reason I'm telling the Jack Nicholas story first, because it turned it comes back around to the golf channel.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_08: But that the first night there, Kai built a big fire.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_08: We're out there sitting around that fire, and Jack Nicholas was telling stories and it was all about uh fly fishing.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_08: He loves to fly fish, bone fish, and all this kind of stuff, and and uh nobody's talking about golf.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_08: He's telling you know, and he's talking about when Jackie did this and Gary did that, and they all love to fish and and uh anyway, somebody asked him a golf question about and uh no they asked Jackie about what it feels like catting in 86 when your dad won the and he told the greatest story about you know, he gave some play by play of that, and I'm listening to that going, How lucky am I to be here that somebody brought up the putter, and if you go back to the 86 uh masters, he was using a putter that was just bulky, black head, it was just ugly, it was really big.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_08: And he's talking about how well he putted with it.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_08: And Ky or somebody asked him, Where is that putter?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_08: And he said, I don't know, I think it's in the garage.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_08: The putter you won the 86 Masters with in the garage.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_06: It should be in a museum.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, somewhere.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_08: It may be now, but it was like it was it reminded me about being around them Navy SEALs who talk about their work just like they're delivering packages or bag and it's just work.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_06: It's just what I do for a living.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_08: And to this day, he he gave the greatest interview I've ever recorded.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_08: We sat down and we did an interview about it, and and he was like, he's talking about cuz he he said, You you've probably figured out bow hunting ain't ain't my passion.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_08: And he said, I'm here because these boys love it.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_08: And we did it in Colorado.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_08: We went elk hunting and it was all about them boys.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm like, What a cool dad.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I know Father's Day was passed.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_08: We did a great Father's Day episode.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_06: That was such a good episode.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that was your if you hadn't heard our Father's Day thing, you need to go listen to it.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, we got they had a blast.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_08: And we got through with the interview and and uh he said, Now, cuz if you ever need anything, you just let me know.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_08: He gave me a card, had his assistant's name on it and all that.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_08: And I was like, you know, I said, Now now that you brought that up, I said, I'm trying I'm gonna try to shoot a pilot.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_08: I told him that.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_08: I said, I'm gonna we're gonna edit this.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_08: And I kind of got thrown out of the golf channel.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_08: I'd liked another shot to get back down there with this.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_08: And he said, Oh, okay.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_08: He said, I I know a couple of people down there, and I forgot what day that was.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_08: And I got them back to the airport.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_08: We went back packed up.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_08: So it was another couple of days before I got back to West Point.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_08: When I got back, I had, I don't know, I must have had 20 yellow sticky notes on my phone from people at the Gov Channel.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_07: Call me back.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_08: Call this number, call this number, call.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_08: He didn't call and said, and I and I did, I set it up.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_08: I said it's gonna take us a month or so to pull it.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_08: And when I went back down there with the second time pilot that had Jack Nicholas's basic.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_06: Same group pitching it to the same group?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_08: I think so.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_08: I I kind of blurred out that first trip.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_08: I don't remember who was in there.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_08: I can tell you this on the next one, the PGA commissioner was in there.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_06: Oh.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_08: Because Jack Nicholas is now the center of this hunting show.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_08: And man, it was awesome.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_05: We're regular guys, you know, we get off work, we want to go hunting or fishing.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_05: My memories of my childhood had nothing to do with dog.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: Had nothing to do with anything.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_05: I just remember opening day of trout season, or why, you know, the steps I took to become a hunter with my dad.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_05: People ask me why I do a lot of hunting fishing.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_05: You know, that's kind of my vacation to wait to do.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_05: These guys just wait for the second season.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_05: That's what they do.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_05: They're they're dying for it.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_08: And they got through and it was really quiet.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_08: And the commissioner guy said, Man, I've never heard Jack Nicholas talk like that.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_08: And I've been knowing him for decades.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_08: And I looked you straight in the face.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_08: I said, Well, you've never asked him the right questions.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_08: And I meant it.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_08: And I was like, Y'all don't understand what a passion that hunting and fishing thing is.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_08: Of course they loved it.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_08: And uh so anyway, got that, checked that box, and from down there, they we were starting to talk about Air Times and all that kind of stuff.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_08: And right there at the end, Toxie and I had an idea what this was gonna cost and all that kind of stuff, but it was building the brand big time.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_08: And right then they told me, now you you you you can't address any of our endemic sponsors, which was the whole reason to the show.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_08: I wanted to get to Nike and Tideless and Taylor Maid and all Callaway and all them.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_08: Couldn't couldn't address 'em.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_08: Because it's the same time by we're gonna have to buy the time and sell it ourselves.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_06: But not to their and I was like, Wow.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's a you know, that's a gang killer right there.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_08: It's just anyway, I called Toxim to down there and said they're not gonna let me, you know, I'm I can't use Doug Holt and all these people to get to them and Toxie's long silence.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_08: She said, Let's do it.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, gutsy move.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_08: So uh the following year we aired the second season on the golf channel.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_06: And it was special.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_08: I'm telling you, it was as good a program and non competitive golf as they've ever had.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_06: If you put those episodes as they exist now up today, they're still perfect.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_06: They're still so watchable.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I mean they were just so well done.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_08: And uh it was just like uh you know, a dream come true to me because I got to meet some of these people and all that kind of stuff.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_08: But it was they aired it on Mondays at five Eastern.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_08: And uh and it still did really well.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_08: Our dilemma wasn't I couldn't sell it to anybody in the golf business who want to be on the golf channel, and nobody in the hunt business was gonna buy commercials on the Golf Channel.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_08: But I think we got the Mississippi Department of Tourism because Jim Gallagher.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_08: That's right, the pro who helped us immensely, was can't he was actually carrying a mossy oak bag with the Mississippi logo on it, but it was not financially fit.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_08: We we aired 13 episodes for a season, and I'm pretty sure I got about that many on the shelf that never aired.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_08: But putting that together, I uh, you know, was so much fun.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_08: It was beautiful.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_10: What a beautiful spot.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_10: What an absolute beautiful spot.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_10: Sure felt like a butcher.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_10: Let's go see what we can do here.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_10: Beautiful beautiful, beautiful beautiful tree.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_09: That's a badge called that.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_09: Some of you and the boys call that a hobby.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_09: That is big.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_09: It has been beautiful.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_09: As I say, this day has been a perfect day.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_09: Just been one of those days you dream of, and the things came true.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_09: Absolutely gorgeous.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_08: You know, old timer builds knives with durability in mind.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_08: They also want it to be a tool that is comfortable enough to work with day after day.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_08: Since the beginning, old timers made knives for those who don't rely on others to get the job done.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_08: I love that.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_08: Old timer built for generations.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_08: You know, there's nothing I love more than teaching my grandkids how to be better woodsmen.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_08: The Onex app helps me do that in a way that makes sense to them.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_08: They're all about apps and that phone.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_08: Using Onex to set optimal wind on stands that should or shouldn't be hunted on certain winds makes it easier for them to understand that, hey, a north wind blows from the north, not to the north.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_08: Using that little slope angle layer when teaching them how to read topographical maps, but the color-coded shading makes it a lot easier to explain to them what tightly stacked to lines mean.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_08: Bottom line, Onex Hunt makes learning fun for those young ones and still helps me find success in the field.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_08: It's an easy-to-use platform.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_08: Hey, even I can do it.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_08: I suggest it for any age outdoorsman.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: You're listening to Fist Full of Dirt with Cunt Strickland.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Presented by Mossy Oak Properties.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_08: I threw those pictures up a fuzzy cellar.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_08: And here's what happened.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_08: And Davis Love talked about it in his interview and all that stuff, but once the word got out on the PGA tour, now this is back when the golfers were a little different.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, I could I could go to a golf event, go to the practice range, and get on the other end, three or four hundred yards away, and I could look and tell you who was swinging.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, wow.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody was so unique, different, all that kind of stuff.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_08: But once that show aired, you know, and the pilot got out, they all wanted to go.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_06: How cool is that?
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, this guy was like, Fuzzy wants to go, go talk to him.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_08: Here's his cell number, all that kind of stuff.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_08: And Fuzzy was all he was one of the first guys we invited.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_08: And uh, and he's like, Look, I got this, I got an awesome hunt lined up.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_08: Me and Frank Licklighter, who was on the PGA tour at the time.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_08: He said, We're going to Alaska, we're gonna hunt uh grizzly bear and moose and caribou and all that.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, Well, call the outfitter and see if he if he'll let me and tag tag along.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_08: He said, I don't need to call him.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_08: Here's the dates.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_08: He said, I pay for all that stuff.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_08: So now I thought, well, that'll be a good one.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_08: Right there.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_08: So we go up to before we even go on the hunt, I asked Fuzzy, uh, and this is when uh it was it wasn't even called the champions tour yet.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_08: I think it was a seniors tour.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_08: They were new and they were trying to get all the exposure they could.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I told Fuzzy, I said, Man, I'd love to come film you playing golf, maybe Frank or whoever.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_08: And so we'd have some golf footage to go along with the hunt and stuff.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_08: So he got us a press pass at and I think they called it the Music City Open in Nashville.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_08: I don't think it's I don't even know if it's an event now.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_08: So me and Tac go up there and I forgot who Tac went with.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I'll I'll remember it.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, I got the wire, put a wire on Fuzzy.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, a wireless mic.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_08: I'm I'm I ain't talking about no Pro Am.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_08: And I was gonna only, you know, get two or three holes or whatever it was, but I I'm they gave me a golf cart and all that, because Tac got one, he went the other way.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_08: And uh so anyway, Fuzzy's uh, you know, Fuzzy was a different guy.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_08: Him, yeah, he he had them sunglasses on all the time.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_08: Him and Richard Petty, they the only two to get a pass.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_07: Uh-huh.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_08: But he could wear and he had them and I forget his caddy's name, and he was uh he was dark complexed.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if he was Spanish or whatever.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, we get to like the and you know, Fuzzy's interacting a little bit.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_08: I'm a little intimidated because I mean this is a PGA seniors event.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_08: And we're uh I think it was like the fifth hole or something like that, and I'm walking up there and I got my camera and I'm just gonna stand back there to film fuzzy and the caddy walks over and he motions me over and he said, Hold this bag a minute.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_08: And I knew he was gonna run the restroom.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_08: So he he takes off.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I set my camera down on the tea box and I'm waiting and I'm waiting and I'm waiting.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_08: And Fuzzy looks around one time and he tees off.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_08: And I don't get the shot because I'm holding the bag.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_08: And then the other guy, I forgot who was playing with him.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_08: He tees off and Fuzzy and I'm still there saying holding the bag, and Fuzzy turns around and said, Well, let's go.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_06: Now you're the caddy.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_06: I look and the camera.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_08: I never you look, I felt like I was standing on the edge of a 300-foot cliff.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_08: I was scared to death.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_06: Because you actually have to participate.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_06: You're not just carrying the bag.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_06: So I grabbed, yeah, I left my camera.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_08: I did grab my camera and go put it in a buggy.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_08: And I grabbed the bag and catch up with him, and he's walking down through the middle of the fairway, smoking a cigarette, whistling, talking to somebody on the side.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_08: He gets up to his ball and uh he gets you know that little book out and he's walking around.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_08: He looks up there and he comes to me and he's like, All right, cuz, what do you think?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm just sitting there with my mouth open, you know, like I don't know what to say or nothing.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_08: He just snickers.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_06: He knew how nervous he was.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he exactly did.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_08: And I can remember, I watched this shot.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_08: He was like, I don't know how far he was, 160 or 50, whatever it was.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_08: And he took a seven, he hit it low anyway, and he hooded kind of a seven-iron, just a little draw up there, and it hits about 10 feet from the pin and settles down.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_08: And he just slings me the club back.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, I didn't even wipe it off.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_08: I just put it in the bag and I'm walking.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm thinking when I see that caddy, I'm gonna kill him.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna kill that caddy.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_08: And when I as I'm easing to the hole, because now I gotta decide, am I gonna have to pull the pin?
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_08: Is it my turn?
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_08: What do I do?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_08: They come running him up on a golf cart, and he comes over and grabs the bag and don't say anything.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_08: I'm trying to give him the worst look ever, and he don't look at me.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_08: But it was like in the end, I got the caddy a hole for Fuzzy Zeller during it, and it was like the coolest thing ever.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_08: But I that was like the first or second year of the senior tour, it was pretty neat, but he was such a cool guy.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, we're going on this uh uh hunt.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_08: So we book our things, and I forgot where Tack and I are gonna meet him and Frek Frank look lighter at this little airport where you have to take a float plane from there.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_07: Uh-huh.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_08: And we get there and it's foggy and rainy, and you're in Alaska, and we sat there at that hangar I don't know how long.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_06: Waiting for it to break.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_08: A day and a half.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_08: But got to talk to Fuzzy and hang out with him and just all this kind of stuff.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_08: So we get there, we finally get up, and there's two float planes, and we took off flu for an hour or something like that, and land on this lake, and I was I remember the guy circling and going, like, man, that thing ain't that big, that lake.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_08: And uh Fuzzy's up there just yapping.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_08: He's you know, got his headphones.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_08: He's been talking to the pilot the whole time, looking.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_08: And when we came in, I'm I ain't saying we barely brushed the top of them trees, but I felt like we did.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_08: He let he set it down quick and then motored over there, and there's the camp.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_08: And it's uh you know, it's all tents, it's just pole tents and big canvas tents, and we get up in there and it's like it's four or five tents, and it's Frank Licklighter and Fuzzy, and Fuzzy's got one of his buddies with him, so there's three people hunting, the outfitter and some guides and all that stuff, and they got a cook tent.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_08: And then me and Tack were staying at the tent at the bottom of the hill, which is the first one.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I was and I said something to one of the first thing I got off the plane, I had on Malsey Oak head to toe.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_08: And one of them guides looked at me and he's rubbing it, got it between his finger and his fore his thumb, and he looked me straight in the eye and said, Cotton kills.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_08: And I was like, What are you talking about?
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_08: He said, Cotton ain't good for Alaska.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_06: You about to freeze.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_08: Well, if you get wet and all that, you know, I'm I'm just a redneck from Mississippi going on a hunting trip.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_08: I ain't got go-text and all that stuff.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, and I said, Well we're me and Tack, you're down at the first tent.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_08: And I was thinking, Well, that's pretty good.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_08: They put us in the first tent.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_08: And he said, uh, that's the ones the bear gets to first if they come up in there.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_08: They were just giving us fits because we were a bunch of flatlanding rednecks.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, we get up the next morning and Frank lick lighter and tack, me and Fuzzy, and I think it was two guys.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_08: And he said, We're gonna walk to the glass and area.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_08: We got a hill we can glass from, and then we'll stay there till we see something.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_08: I said, Well, that ain't gonna be too bad.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_08: I was worried about hunting in Alaska because I was chubby.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_08: Big time chubby.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_06: I noticed in them pictures you posted.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_08: And I saw him tack about it, and he said, Hey dude, he said, Fuzzy smokes two packs a day.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_08: How how fast can he go?
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I learned.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_06: Fast.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he may smoke a cigarette every once in a while, but he walks five miles a day.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_08: And look, I didn't stop and throw up because it was all uphill.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_08: Two and a half two point four miles from that tent to the lookout.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_08: All uphill.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_06: Straight up.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_08: And the only reason I didn't stop and throw up is because I didn't stop.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, we got up there and they bust out those uh spot and scopes and all that.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_08: And the first day it was clad and it rained.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_08: So we could just kind of sat there all day.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_08: And then we get to come back down.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_08: Well, the trip back down wasn't that bad because it was downhill.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_08: So the next day, same thing.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_08: And the second day for me was worse because now I'm sore on top of being out of shape.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_08: But we we make it up there in the same thing and uh spot and spot and spot and saw a like a cow moose and a calf.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_08: And this is it's not a lot of game.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm starting to think, man, I wished he'd have let me pick a spot because I knew about anyway.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_08: Get out.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_08: And I the third day we're up there, and I'm so sore by now, I can't hardly move.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_08: Well, the outfitter or the guys get they I see him having this huddle over there by attack, and I go over there and they have spotted a really big bear.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_08: Brown bear, greasy bear.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_08: I don't even know what kind of bear it was, but it's big.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_08: And they were estimating it was like 3.8 miles over there to where it was, it was on a hillside.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_08: Had to go down, cross over these altars and all this kind of stuff.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm like, well, they're over there with uh Frank Licklighter and Tack and all them, and then they start swapping stuff out of backpacks.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_08: They're getting like uh an emergency space blanket and some MREs and they're moving this stuff around.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_08: I'm thinking, I wonder what's going on.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_08: And Tack said they're fixing to draw straws, see who goes after the bear with this outfitter.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm thinking, oh my God.
• 43:32
  unknown: Oh my god.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_08: If this is if I gotta follow them down in there, I'm gonna die.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_06: Oh no.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, they went over and they drew straws and Frank got to go after the bear.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm looking at Tack and he looked like he just stuck his finger in a light socket and Fuzzy's over there, and I'm like, Dang, I wish we'd get Yeah, oh man.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_08: I was like and inside I'm going, Thank you, Jesus.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_08: Thank you, Lord.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_08: Thank you, Lord, for that.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, they take off and uh We sat well, we watched them and it was like ten in the morning, nine in the morning, and by the and we watched the bear the whole time.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_08: And by the time we could see them at the bottom of that little opening on the side of that mountain, that bear had been gone for an hour.
• 44:14
  unknown: Oh no.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_08: And it's starting to get dark.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_08: So we just our our guy said, All right, let's go.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_08: So we walked back 2.4 miles to the thing, and they are eating and all that kind of stuff.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm like, Y'all think they'll be yeah, they'll be fine, they'd be all right.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_08: And about one in the morning, Tat comes scraggling and never even took his boots off, nothing, just fell face first on that cot.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_08: Oh man.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_08: It was the toughest hunt.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_08: I'm telling you, we didn't kill, we didn't kill anything.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_08: We had a blast.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_08: This uh this outfitter guy, he was a big golf fan.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_08: That's why he had Fuzzy up there.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_08: And he had built a T box right there by them tents by this lake, and he had brought a big old sack full of what they call floater balls.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_08: And every day he'd ask Fuzzy, you know, before he left, come hit some balls, come hit some balls.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_08: No, I ain't up here to play golf.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_08: He had an old driver over there.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_08: Finally, on the last day, we had to come back early because he's flying us out after lunch.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_08: And he finally talked fuzzy into hitting some golf balls.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_08: And he walked over there, didn't stretch or anything.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_08: He dumped them balls out on the on the the guy who built a tea box with like some cedar limbs or whatever.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_08: He had a little thing built up with flat dirt on the top of it.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and Fuzzy was just in his mossy oak head to toe.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_08: And it was like, golly, that's that's what he what he does is golf.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know what I do.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, at one point they were calling shots.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_08: He'd get in his backswing, they'd say low hook, high fee.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_08: It was crazy how good these people are.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, I'm sitting and I filmed some of this.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_08: That bait tape is on these shelves somewhere.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_08: And Fuzzy, he just slings me the driver.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_08: Said, cuz I heard you a golfer hit a couple.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_08: Now I'm really gonna throw up.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_08: Because I don't want to be hitting a golf ball in front of Fuzzy Zeller.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, I can say I gotta do it.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_08: So I get down on my knees and I get the dirt and I make me a little tee and I set the golf ball up on the tea.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_08: He just hitting them off the dirt.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_08: And I say, All right, one swing thought.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_08: Just give me one swing thought so I don't top it.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_08: So uh he's like swing easy, keep your head so I boom.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_08: And I hit one and went out there and hit in the lake, and I was I was kind of proud.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_08: So I flipped, I I flipped him to club back.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_08: I said, There you go, what do you think?
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_08: He said, cuz you got a lot of potential, but I don't think you'll live long enough to reach it.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_08: He was so funny.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_08: But they uh and I told him, I said, Fuzzy, if you ever want to go on another hunt, I said, Let me set it up.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_08: And we did.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_08: We, you know, we did the uh he was big friends with uh Craig Stadler, who they call the wall big big boy.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_08: And we did a turkey hunt right after the masters over in South Carolina, uh, Justin Flaherty Tat.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_08: And they were gonna play a trick on Stadler.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_08: We had bought everybody's license and everything, met the game orders and outfitter and all that stuff.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_08: And they sent uh Stadler off turkey hunting that day with Justin Flaherty.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_08: We didn't have his license.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_08: He didn't even think about it.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_08: He knew we'd all bought them all, but anyway, sorry, we'll pick y'all up on that low water bridge right there at whatever, 10 o'clock.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_08: They were just gonna hunt that ridge.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_08: So they come back down there and uh Fuzzy is in the game warden's truck on the floorboard with the game warden that's gonna check him.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_08: And they walk down there and all this is on camera.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_08: Justin's camera's running tacks up in the bushes on the camera, and they go down there and the game warden walks down there and introduces himself, and Craig Staller introduces himself.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_08: And he said, I need to check your license, and he's you know, pumping all over his shirt.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_06: I know it's here somewhere.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and he said, No, I think the moss hilk guys got him.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_08: He said, You know, and the game warden's just he's a big boy, and he was priceless.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_08: And Stadler's looking at him doing all this, and he said, I'm pretty sure the Moss Hilk guys got him.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_08: You know, we we came here to go turkey hunting after the Masters.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_08: I was down there playing in the Masters, and that big game warden looked at him.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_08: He said, Uh, I don't follow golf like that.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_08: Funniest line I've ever heard.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_08: And about that time, anyway, Fuzzy's on the floorboard and he raises up and got got Stadler good.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_08: But what a neat bunch of guys, those uh oh man, they were they were awesome.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_08: One of the coolest things, and I'm probably wrapped this up.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, we had 13 shows there on the Goth Channel.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_08: They were great.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_08: The ratings were great, even on Monday at four Central, right?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_08: Five Eastern.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_08: But uh we set up a hunt with Davis Love the Third, who at the time was like the longheader out there and all that stuff.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_08: Big hunter is in Georgia, Sea Island.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_08: And went over there and of course he had at the time he had one of the biggest turkey gall collections of anybody.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I mean, nail cost boxes.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_08: It was crazy.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_08: He just deep into it.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_08: We ended up hunting him a couple of times, but on this hunting, all the new mafioke and all that stuff, he walks out with his old double barrel shotgun and it's like and uh said now it's gonna have to be pretty close.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_08: And I think it might have missed one, didn't shoot, or anyway, he ended up killing a turkey with that old shotgun.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_08: And he's talking about it was his grandfather's and nobody in that family hunted.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_08: And his dad talked about buying him a tackle box with baits in it and getting people to take him fishing at the golf course.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_08: Nobody did it.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_08: And David's like, that gun's the only thing I got.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_08: You know, I feel like my grandpa's with me.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_08: So he we ended up kind of making the show about the gun.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_08: And when the show aired, two or three days later, I get a call from the switchboard and it was his mom and talking about she she's always wondered why he loved that stuff so much.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_08: Nobody did it now, she kind of gets it.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_06: That makes me want to crack.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_08: And we took him and his son to uh out to Hal Sutton's ranch in Texas.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_08: Hal Sutton actually we were gonna shoot a second uh series of shows, six or seven of 'em.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_08: We was gonna kind of let him be the on-camera guy.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_08: Hey, this week on second seat.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_08: He was about to he was a famous guy.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_08: Won the players and all that kind of stuff.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_08: He's the only guy that ever in a con to this day that I can remember beat Tiger Woods in a competitive round playoff and Jack Nicholas.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_08: He was just in that age group.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_08: We went out to Hal Sutton's ranch, and it was Davis Love and his son and Hal.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_08: And we were gonna film them deer hunting and all that stuff.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_08: And Hal was getting into bow hunting.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_08: This was funny.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_08: It wasn't to him, but anyway, we were rigging a bow up and I said, and I needed something.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_08: And there was a big Walmart down there somewhere in junction.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_08: I said, I gotta go to Walmart.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_08: So we all loaded up and went to Walmart.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_08: They're just people.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, we get to Walmart and I go back to the sporting goods thing and I was I was I think I was getting a peep site and something else.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_08: I had to go get some dental flaws and super glue.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_08: But I was back here in the sporting goods thing, there were two or three old boys.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_08: Hunt season was open.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_08: Here are you cuz, yeah.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_08: And we signed, I signed a hat for him or something.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_08: We t and then all of a sudden there's five or six.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_08: Hey, y'all come over here.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_08: So we're sitting there and I'm talking to these old boys, what are you doing?
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_08: And I I looked around and Hal Sutton standing there with his arms folded, just looking at me, and I was like, hey, you're in my world now, buddy wings.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I thought that was funny, but it was just the most fun.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_08: And it's to this day, I'm still I'm not surprised at all of the s you know, the the crossover between people that play golf and people that hunt and fish.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_08: It's it's it's a lot of them on there.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_08: So uh that was a great project.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_08: And look, you can go to the Mossy Oak Go app.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_08: And the way Lauren and I found it, you can't punch in second season.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_08: You click in, you go to second season, I mean the Malsiok Go app, go to the search bar and type Jack Nicholas.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_08: Or Davis Love or Hal Sutton, and those shows will come up and you can actually watch them.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm to this day they're still good.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_08: Now I think I cut the impact out like when somebody would shoot a deer or whatever it was because different rules for different rules for the Goth Channel who ended up getting balled out by NBC or somebody like that.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_08: But that's some that's some pretty cool program.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_08: It is.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I don't know if anybody else ever did that, but it was uh uh you know, to to this day it just shows you how big our little brand has gotten.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_08: I was watching the US Open last week and there was some amateur in there and day one they qualified, he had a mossy oak hat on with some kind of golf logo on.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_08: I said that's pretty cool.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_06: That's awesome.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_08: That's you know, you don't see a lot of that, but you know, especially with Bottom Land, it's kind of taking on a life of its own.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_08: But uh yeah, that was that's kind of how the golf show came about.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_08: There was uh no uh marketing plan, no strategy.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_08: It's just like, hey, think that would be a good idea.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_06: So uh your name's Cuz and you want to do what?
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_08: I wouldn't I will never ever forget that line.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_08: I love it.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_08: And uh 'cause he probably ain't even there anymore, but it's like, yeah, my name's Cuz and I want to put a show on the golf channel.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_08: Where's the door?
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_08: I'm out.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_06: I love that you told this story.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_06: Some of this I hadn't heard before, so I'm happy to have heard it.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_06: And now we got it on the podcast.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_08: That's right.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_08: Got some good ones coming up.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_08: I'm trying to put together a uh a visit with uh Uncle Ted Nugent.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_06: That's right.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_08: And I just you know, he's getting inducted like in the same week or two weeks apart.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_08: He's going in the Michigan Outdoor Hall of Fame.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_08: He's also going in the Legends Outdoor Hall of Fame.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I'll be there for that.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_08: And I want to talk to him about, and I know it ain't about accolades and all that, but I'm just gonna talk to him.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_08: He seems to be excited about it.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_08: And we hadn't checked in with him for a long time.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_08: I just want to ask him what's that mean to him.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_08: And here's our our our our method, our MO here is to send people 15 to 24 questions or 25, so they'll know what we're gonna talk about.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_06: Give them a heads up.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_08: You don't do that with Ted.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_06: No, you don't.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_08: I may have one word written down on a piece of paper or something or two, but because he's gonna go where he wants to go.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_08: But I'm telling you, I'm proud he's going in there.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_08: He's, you know, Fred Bear, Pete Shepley, M.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_08: R.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_08: James.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_08: That man, he should have been in there a long time ago.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_06: He should have already been there.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I'm excited about that.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_08: Want to visit with him about that.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_08: So uh if that happens, it'll be next in line or the one after that.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_08: Always fun visiting with uh Ted Nugent.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_08: I don't call him Uncle Ted because I'm almost as old as he is.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_06: I love it when we call, he'll be like, Ronnie.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_06: He's the only one that calls you Ronnie.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_08: He is uh he's got seas he's just as busy now as he was, but I'm glad.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_08: And look, don't forget if you it I'm telling you, I've said this a bunch of times.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_08: If you want an unbelievable weekend, you can go to the Legends of the Outdoors Hall of Fame and attend.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_08: Just buy a ticket.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_08: That's right.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_08: It's in Springfield.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_08: After the thing, you can go to the museum, the aquarium, all that kind of stuff.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_06: Well, if you got little kids, it's indoors, so you don't have to worry about how hot it is because it's a hot time of the year.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_06: But there's all cool stuff to do inside.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_06: It's it's a blast.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_08: I'm certainly gonna be there to watch Ted and our buddy Paul Butzky.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_08: Paul Butsky's going in too.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_08: This is gonna be a celebration.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_06: It's gonna be a fun weekend.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_08: So don't forget, I you look, they got a website and everything, Legends of the Outdoors Hall of Fame.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_08: You can buy a ticket and sit at a table and watch this, and then go hang out at Bass Pro Shop and go to the museum.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_08: It's it's a fun deal.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_08: So that's coming up.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, hopefully the sports and the rain dies down a little bit.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_08: We can get down to some good stuff.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_08: I'm about ready to show some uh some uh video of my corn.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_08: It's doing really good and uh talk about some summer food plots and stuff.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, I told you I'd tell you the story of the second season, and that's it.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_06: That's a great story.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_06: I'm glad you told it.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_08: All right, so from me and Laurene up here in the semi-damp Camo Cave from Mossy Oak and Mossy Oak Properties, God bless you all.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_06: We'll see you in seven days.