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ITB: After Sudden Cam Jurgens Trade, What Now For Eagles In 2026? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on, everybody? It's
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher. It's Adam Kaplan.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Man, we are approaching this Week 5 game between the
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Eagles and the Jaguars in London, Adam. And just going
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: to London and playing the Jags tends to be like
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: an animal in itself when there's an international game. But
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: buckle up, man. What a week it has been for
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. And we're only in the middle of it,
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: but Lane Johnson... with the sudden retirement. And then a
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: day later, Adam, Cam Juergens. The Eagles trade Cam Juergens
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  Speaker 2: to the Ravens for draft picks, including a second-round pick.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: We'll get into all that in this podcast. We'll talk
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll still talk about the fallout from what they're going
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  Speaker 2: to do without Lane Johnson going forward. And then, of course,
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: some pop-up injuries that we constantly talk about with this
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: team throughout the week. But, man, the Cam Juergens thing,
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: just very– The timing, Adam, just completely kind.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Of out of nowhere, right?
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  Speaker 2: And then the impact of that, along with Lane, is
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  Speaker 2: going to be felt for this offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: There's no question about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the urgency that the Ravens had got this trade done.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they overpaid. It's a massive overpay.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: From a positive standpoint. And I'm sure Eric Dacosta was
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  Speaker 3: good friends with Howie Roseman. I'm sure he felt that.
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  Speaker 3: the tape that he saw was not reflective of Cam
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: at center because he's playing left guard now.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So he knows he's a natural center. That's what he's
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: going to play for Baltimore. They're not down one. They're
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: not down two. They're down three centers, technically. And Vega Ioni,
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: who's not a center, had to do it as emergency fill-in.
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  Speaker 3: So they had to do something. And it's similar. It's
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: kind of like when Howie traded Bradford to the Vikings
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  Speaker 3: because they were desperate. They had to do it. Like
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: when they lost Teddy Bridgewater was hugging up to the season.
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  Speaker 3: They had to do, they had to get a quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: a starting quarterback. Okay. And they were like, that's, that
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  Speaker 3: was going to happen as much as Bradford was not
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  Speaker 3: happy about what was going on. Hey, he went somewhere
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  Speaker 3: he could start and how he had leverage. Well, how
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: he leveraged in this situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. Cause I thought of a similar trade.
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  Speaker 2: I thought of a trade with the Eagles that was
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  Speaker 2: similar in the, You overpaid because you– and I thought
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: the third rounder for Jahan Dotson was– that was the
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  Speaker 2: one that came to mind where you completely overpaid just
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: to make sure you have a player at a certain
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  Speaker 2: position who's at least functional.
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  Speaker 1: And you're right. The Ravens are a good team.
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  Speaker 2: This will be– I still think this will be a
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  Speaker 2: decent trade for them even though they overpaid because they
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: needed a.
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  Speaker 1: Center so bad. And they're good.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing really well with their new offense. And if
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: Cam Juergens is just like okay at center, they'll be
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  Speaker 2: fine because that's what they were getting– To begin with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they lost Tyler.
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  Speaker 1: Lindermann, right?
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  Speaker 2: They're all pro center in free agency. And they were
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: trying to fill the hole with like a guy, I
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  Speaker 2: forget the guy, the first guy's name. And then they
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: signed veteran Pochek, who's been around, not great. They just
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: need a functional player in that position.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Javon Gwynn was the kid. In fact, I might
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  Speaker 3: have been there. I might have been at Ravens camp
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  Speaker 3: when Pochek got hurt. But Ethan Pochek has been a
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: starter in the league. He got hurt. And then Danny
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: Pinter is a guard center who they signed away from
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: the Colts. He got hurt. So you can't go forward. Like,
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  Speaker 3: they just had to do it. And Howie smartly made
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: Eric pay. I mean, the Eagles got a 28-2 to
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  Speaker 3: get the trade done. Howie couldn't get a 27. He
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: got a 28. But he got a 27-5. And they
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  Speaker 3: gave up a conditional seventh-round pick. And the pick is
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  Speaker 3: from Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 3: and they gave up Juergens, who now the question for
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: Juergens is, is it just because he was not comfortable
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  Speaker 3: at left guard where he was late with his hands,
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: late with his footwork, which made him look like he
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: was not very good? Yeah. Or is it that he's
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: had a physical decline, particularly on the lower body? Well,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter to the Eagles anymore, but it does,
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  Speaker 3: although Howie got great value, it sets up a major
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  Speaker 3: hole for this football team on the offensive line in
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  Speaker 3: terms of depth, proven talent, Sure. Look, the time with
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  Speaker 3: Lane's retirement, sudden retirement, and this trade, I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: puts them in a major bind. Now, they're going to
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  Speaker 3: get a good look at some younger players, but that's
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  Speaker 3: not really what you want to do. You like to
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  Speaker 3: do it in the preseason, not the regular season. That's
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  Speaker 3: where they're at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're hitting this on the head, and
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  Speaker 2: I've seen some kind of opinion out there that, I
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  Speaker 2: think people are correlating something that shouldn't be correlated.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this was not a fire sale. That is correct. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A fire sale is where you're just giving players away
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  Speaker 1: and you're trying to restart over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And from what I understand, just talking to some other teams,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like everybody in the NFL knew Cam Juergens
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  Speaker 2: was available. This was a situation that you just laid
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  Speaker 2: out where the Ravens needed a center. They called Howie.
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  Speaker 2: They were willing to overpay. Howie's got a struggling player.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if Cam Juergens was playing at a really
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  Speaker 2: high level, this trade probably doesn't go down even for him.
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  Speaker 1: The second pick.
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  Speaker 2: But Cam has been a struggling player, playing out of position,
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  Speaker 2: coming off the injury. They will get a chance to
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  Speaker 2: save some money in the future by moving him. But
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  Speaker 2: this was not a case where Howie's tearing it down
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  Speaker 2: just because it happened one day.
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  Speaker 1: After the Lane Johnson announces retirement.
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  Speaker 2: However, when people say this was not a fire sale,
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: so the Eagles aren't punting, that doesn't mean the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: are punting on this year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I agree with you. It doesn't mean they are,
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  Speaker 1: but this is not a this is.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately what I've seen and I should get off social
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  Speaker 2: media as soon as I see this stuff, but this
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  Speaker 2: is not a situation where the Eagles are actually improving
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  Speaker 2: for the short term either. So they may be not hunting,
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  Speaker 2: but this is not, you just laid it out. This is,
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  Speaker 2: you are going to go into London struggling two games,
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: losing streak, And you are just about 24 game weeks
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  Speaker 2: removed from your greatest offensive line in your history. And
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  Speaker 2: now you're only going to have one of those five guys,
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Mailata. Everybody else on the line is completely new
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  Speaker 2: from the 2024. Or maybe, no, you have Steen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: So three-fifths of your offensive line is going to be
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  Speaker 2: entirely new. Was Steen the right guard when they won
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  Speaker 2: it two years ago?
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  Speaker 1: Or was he still? I can't even. No, Becton was.
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  Speaker 3: My bad.
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  Speaker 2: Four-fifths of the offensive line on Sunday morning when everybody's
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: watching that game in London. is going to be completely
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  Speaker 2: new from the Super Bowl team. That is not optimal
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  Speaker 2: for this team that's trying to pick up the pieces.
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: Think about it. Willie Lampkin was an undrafted free agent,
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  Speaker 3: sort of a phenomenon. I know there's an online– there's
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  Speaker 3: a certain part of Eagles Twitter that's absolutely enamored with him.
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  Speaker 3: We've outlined this for months now. The Eagles front office
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  Speaker 3: loves Willie Lampkin. But Greg Cosell told our Patreon group–
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't even thought of this until he brought it up.
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  Speaker 3: I brought it up. We didn't know Jurgens was going
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  Speaker 3: to be traded. But I said, hey, Lampkin's going to
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  Speaker 3: start one way or the other. That's going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: particularly if Cam keeps playing this poorly, you got to
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  Speaker 3: do what you got to do. And Greg goes, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: that'll be really nice. Eric Armstead is six foot seven.
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  Speaker 3: We'll go against Willie Lampkin. It's five, 10 and three quarters.
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  Speaker 3: So you're talking about like 10 inches of height and let,
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, the arm length ridiculous. Right. That'll happen.
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  Speaker 3: Now you and I kind of debated this, but we didn't,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't know the straight was going to happen. If I,
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  Speaker 3: I just can't see them moving Kendall, making another move,
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  Speaker 3: moving Kendall left guard. It should be Lampkin at left guard. OK,
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  Speaker 3: that's the way it should be. He said he could
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  Speaker 3: play both. Kendall is not a natural guard. That's a
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  Speaker 3: power position. That's the way it's explained to me. Kendall
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: is is futures at center. In fact, that's what this
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: is going to be about the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 3: It should be Kenny B. Can's replacement. They didn't know
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  Speaker 3: it'd be this way. You know, they thought maybe, OK,
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  Speaker 3: maybe next year. But that was then and this is
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  Speaker 3: now like they have this has to they got to
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  Speaker 3: get a good look. And then Markel Bell with Lane's
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: sudden retirement. Again, something we didn't know a week ago.
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  Speaker 3: Howie Roseman didn't know this. Lane was going to tell
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  Speaker 3: him that he didn't want to play on Sunday. Couldn't
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  Speaker 3: do it. And he retired. So Markel Bell, who I
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: had an offensive line coach tell me who really likes Markel,
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  Speaker 3: this would have been a redshirt year for him. He
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: thought he needed to grow into his long body and
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  Speaker 3: he needed to reconfigure it. He's got a great attitude,
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  Speaker 3: wants it badly, this coach said. He's a very impressive
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  Speaker 3: young guy. But This is just a third-round rookie who's
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  Speaker 3: going to have to work his way through it. Did
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  Speaker 3: a decent job last week. Lampkin, undrafted free agent, and Kendall, fifth-rounder.
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  Speaker 3: This is not the way the Eagles do business, but yes,
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  Speaker 3: circumstances have changed it. They made the decision on Juergens. Lampkin,
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  Speaker 3: it's not what they planned for him to start this early,
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  Speaker 3: but it is what it is. Then, Andrew DiCecco's subject
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: of the Rookie Diary, Micah Morris, now, for now... I
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  Speaker 3: guess the top backup guard, they don't have anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: And, and, and even the guys they have on the,
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: who do they have on the practice squad?
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  Speaker 1: They have tackles on the practice squad, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's get to that. So John Ojukwu, Ojukwu could
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  Speaker 3: play guard, excuse me, right or left tackle, limited guard experience. Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He can do it. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: He did cross train there, by the way, this summer.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to use that word ad nausea, please.
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  Speaker 2: When we say cross train, It don't mean that this
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  Speaker 2: guy can definitely play the position.
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  Speaker 1: It just means the Eagles are trying to see if
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  Speaker 1: he could.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. They've literally crossed straight. See, that's the thing. If
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: the Eagles make a trade, I would bet if they
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: want to make the trade for Lyman or signing someone, eventually,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to want someone who could play at least
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  Speaker 3: two positions. I would bet.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You have to. They're in a crisis situation. Now, Joku
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: actually did some decent stuff for the Titans. He had
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: a couple starts at right tackle. He's a natural tackle.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: And then Amadji is the left tackle from Yale who
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: was drafted by the bears. He's a project. So they're
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: in a crisis, of the offensive line man this is
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: uh you're going against not only one of the best
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: defenses in national football you're going against perhaps they I
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: was telling our patreon group on Wednesday night by the
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: way what a sellout crowd we had I it was
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: like I could have used you in there I had
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: no idea how many people it was crazy it was
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: like a standing room only it was great it was
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: awesome time that's awesome great uh I was saying to
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: this group last night, the Jaguars are my number one team.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: If I was doing power rankings, they would be one.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: They're one.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. I've been thinking about that lately.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely– they're very, very good.
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: They play one shaking. Yeah. Against Denver. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Eagles also did add, I believe, a
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: practice squad guy from Miami, a center who played for
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: the Hurricanes.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ackermeyer, right. They also have Jake Majors, who's definitely
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: not a guard. He's too small.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: They're just stockpiling centers. It's amazing.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You have Ackermeyer, yeah. Oh, and Eric
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: Esakama's back, who was a former Dolphins receiver who the
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: Eagles had in training camp. And Ackermeyer was an undrafted
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: free agent out of the University of Miami. Or actually,
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know which one. Actually, no, it might be Miami, Ohio.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: It might be Miami, Ohio. I don't know.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that Miami?
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: I thought it was University of Miami.
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  Speaker 3: But he's a little bit older. He's an undrafted rookie.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: He's 24 years old. Yeah, you're right. I don't understand
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: the facet. You know what? Maybe they're going to cross-train McGard.
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  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they're going to do because they do that.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: That's sort of SO. What's the standard operating procedure right now? SOP. Yeah, SOP.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: So I'll just give you my viewpoint on it. I
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: struggle to see.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: I thought Willie Lampkin was awesome in the preseason, and
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: he's a great story. I think we already made the
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: point of there's a difference between being a really good
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: story of an undrafted kid who's very undersized, who makes
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: it onto an NFL 53, and then becoming a good
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: enough person to play week after week, like a starter.
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  Speaker 1: I struggle to see how.
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  Speaker 2: Him at his size can be more of a power
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: player at guard than Kendall, who's a bigger guy, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't think either of them are what you would
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  Speaker 2: consider a strong power player. I did think that Lampkin
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: had a good base and fundamentally knows how to use
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: his legs. He uses his leverage really well, and that
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: can compensate at times for raw strength. But to what
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: you just said, when you're in there every single snap,
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: week after week or for however long until Dickerson can
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: come back, if he does, and you're going up against
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: a very good defense, and a guy like Anthony Campanile
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: who's going to just crowd the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 1: To expect this guy to just go into left.
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  Speaker 2: Guard, a position that is not his own natural position,
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  Speaker 2: and do well or make things better, because I've seen
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: people already texting me, well, Juergens was like the 78th
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: guard out of the 79, so he stinks, so he
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: can't get worse.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, get these PFF ratings out of your freaking minds.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. He was playing poorly. He was out
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  Speaker 1: of position.
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  Speaker 2: The first game he played at center, he had a
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: couple penalties, but he wasn't nearly as atrocious as he
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: was at left guard.
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  Speaker 1: And then secondly, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: There's just too much stuff on the internet about like
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: 15 to 30 plays that Cam Juergens hurt.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: Cam Juergens is not responsible for like the war across
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: the seas and the economy and gas prices. Like this
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  Speaker 2: guy gave up his body and broke his back, right,
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: so that this team could win a Super Bowl. And
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: some of the things I've seen on his way out
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: were that people were saying about him were just classless.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: To be honest. You mean there's a lack of maturity
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: on anti-social media?
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I know. I should get off. I know. I got
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: to get off. And I know that's not like the maturity.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I don't respond to anything.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: I mute literally 50 people a week. I should.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I should.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: I love when they tag me. This is my favorite thing.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Going back when we all used to answer questions 15
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: years ago, which nobody does anymore. They don't answer them.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: I get it. All right. people were disrespectful. They tagged
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: me and like eight people and they just want anyone
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: to answer. It's like me, Obama, like has a Twitter,
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: like it's just ridiculous. It's so funny. And I get
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: a kick out of it. I'm like, fine. Like some
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: retired reporter. It's so great. I, I know they want it.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: That's what we have paid you on board folks.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, it's funny. There used to be a joke,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: like a running joke. And sometimes you mentioned Obama. So again,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: in my head, like whenever something was wrong with the world,
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Like somebody would sarcastically go, thanks, Obama.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: So now it's, thanks, Juergens. Like, you know, the offense
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: or the defense gives up a 50-yard pass. Thanks, Juergens. No,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: he was playing badly, of course. We know that. But
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: this is not a great situation for the Eagles going forward.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Even though it's not a fire sale, this is way
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: more of a long-term gain for the Eagles getting a
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: second-round pick than it is a short-term game.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, 2026, we're still in it. And even though
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the Eagles aren't punting.
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  Speaker 3: It's only four games. I know.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: We're only four weeks into it, and it's not great
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: when you have this.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Look at, to your point about Markel Bell. I think
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be a pretty good player.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: He's big. He's got a chance to really improve, right?
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: But first game, look at how they overloaded Blitz's stated side.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Look at how confused he was. Look at how tentative
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: at times he was.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: But at least he's seen it now.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Right, but he's seen it now.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying he's seen it in a game that
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: the Eagles got their asses kicked. And so I don't
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: go into London with Willie Lampkin here at left guard thinking, oh,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: this is a better situation for the Eagles.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: It is not.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Well, yes, their line did not play well. Their pass protection,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: as we outlined inside the tape with Greg Cosell, the
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: offensive edition was bad, but they still hung in there.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Now I know it was an odd game with rain
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: that had the slickness. There was a lot of extraneous
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: factors for this game, but you nailed it when Bell
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: got the experience. That was major. Okay. Now, I know
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: we didn't mention it, and yes, there's the outside chance
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: that Fred Johnson starts over when he's healthy enough. I
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: don't see it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I know I said that
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: last pod, but I'm like, that doesn't make sense.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: No. They're definitely not playing for next year. But within that,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: trying to win the division, they're going to want to
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: get a good book on Kendall, which they have. He's
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: done a decent job. He really has. They have to
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: find out. Absolutely have to find out if Bell's Lane's
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: replacement long-term. Got to do that. Fred Johnson is not it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: He's a journeyman, backup left-right tackle. He got exposed. He
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: did a good job early. The longer he played, the
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: more it became an issue. That's why they're called backups.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Backups become backups, as you're saying, with offensive line coaches.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: The more we play them. They could look good for
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: a couple games. They're like, whoa. But on the reverse
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: of that, which is interesting, sometimes guys just need experience.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Remember how bad big V was to start his career.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Terrible against Washington. And he stacked, stacked and stacked experience.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Then it became solid. And he signed a 10 million
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: a year deal with the Lions because of it, because
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: he did a really good job. So just tagging in there, folks.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: The good thing about Sunday's game is it's going to
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: end at 1230 Eastern around there. And if it's bad,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: you could just move on for your day, get some
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: chores done. Then you can watch the one o'clock games. Okay.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I was trying to count a few beers after that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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• 17:20
  Speaker 3: It's a long day. And then the, People out in L.A.
• 17:23
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• 17:27
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We sent you. All right. So that
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: is the situation with Cam Juergens and left guard. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I just, it's amazing. It never ceases to amaze me
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: how quickly things can change in the NFL.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've never, this is insane.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Like back to that day, offensive line might've been the
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: greatest in franchise history and now it's reduced to one
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: fifth of it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: So it's crazy.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Two starters are lost for non-injury reasons.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: But in 24 hours that you can't make it up. Like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: come on.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: It is crazy.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: So, again, with Lane Johnson out, I agree with that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I think Bell would be the way to go. So
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you're going to have Bell, Steen, Kendall, Lampkin, Mailata from
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: right to left. The Jaguars will capitalize on that. They
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: will try to, at least to the best of their ability.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is, I don't know if you saw,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Mailata's quote's in the locker room. But he was basically saying,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I never even thought about my own career mortality. Like when,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: but now how can I not? I look and it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: my ninth year. I've been through a lot of wars.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Everybody's gone.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You know, he's like that meme of fresh Prince on
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that last episode where he walks into the empty room
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and he looks around and is like, where is everyone?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Will Smith's just looking around. Nobody's there.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Or John Travolta, even same thing, right? From Reservoir Dogs.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: So that's Jordan Maialata right now. But I liked what
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: he said in that I don't have time to think
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I got it. I have to be a leader of
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: an offensive line room.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So they need them. I mean, with Dixon on IR.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. There's no lane for leadership.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Tyler Steen is a very quiet guy, from what I understand.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: He's getting better, though.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: He's not bad. It's just, it's a tough deal. Michael
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Morris is there. You know, he's learning. It's just, this is,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: it's very bizarre to me to look at this offensive line.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: This is not the way that Howie's done business. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I understand he chose on Juergens and he didn't choose
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: on Lane. Lane retired. Right. Uh, that's, that's another, that,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that's a, that his career is a great 30 for
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: 30 short on everything that's happened. Obviously in a hall
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: of fame type player, what he's, the challenges, obviously we,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: we know about with a mental illness and he's, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: he's been very upfront about it. And, you know, the
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: senior ball situation, which I talked about on our show, you're,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: you know, you, what you, what you learned about him
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: and for him to be that elite, it's just, it's
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: incredible really. Cause remember he was not an offensive line
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: by trade. He was a quarterback at one point. Mm-hmm.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: you can't teach measurables and his desire to be elite
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: is really second to none i mean it meant so
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: much to him and so much so that i know
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: you've talked about it that it would actually eat him
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: up when he wasn't when when he didn't get the
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: credit when there was you know when there was grades
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: or ratings or stories about he wasn't great i know
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: i know for a fact he would take that stuff
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: personally oh yeah yeah he was pretty open about it
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: it would eat him up um But now he's free
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and we wish him luck. I really hope, I would love, A,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: if he did a season, a career-ending press conference like
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Kelsey did. Kelsey's was awesome.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would love for him to do a podcast.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, like the one he did during the COVID? Right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Well, but it shows that he wants to be in
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the NBA.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, he'd be a good analyst.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when things calm down for him, I mean, we'll
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: see what happens. But it's going to be an adventure
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: with this offensive line. Dickerson, we'll see when he starts working.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: He's not working yet.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: But, It's going to be tough. And then the running game,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: they have to find. I know it's hard with all
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: these backups playing on the offensive line. You've got to
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: have some semblance of a running game. And this is
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: where not having Stout here. If they had Stout here
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to deal with all this crap, I would go, you
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: know what? If anyone could handle this ridiculous situation that
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: he's being handled, it would be he.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Not that he could totally handle it. This is ridiculous
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: what's going on right now.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Can't make it up. Can you imagine that Howie telling
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Chris Cooper, hey, listen, I know this is not great.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: It's not ideal, but we're going to trade Cam to Baltimore.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: And what would your reaction be?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, why do you hate me, Howie?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: You gave me one year.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I'm four weeks into my first year, just like how
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: many you might feel of it too. And you're just
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: taking guys away from me. And now I'm a toe stub,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: an ankle twist, a hammy tweak away from– a rookie
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: six round pick being one of my starting interior linemen. And,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: you know, now I'm down to, you know, Fred Johnson
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: may have to be a starting offensive lineman.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: If I get an, if I get.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: A tackle, if I get an injury that, I mean, we,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I always look at things. You're one injury away from what,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and for them it's, it's perilous.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: That's how G that's how the front office always thinks
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: about it. Cause that with their depth chart, how is
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: a depth chart in his office as all GMs do. Okay.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: This position, this position, this position. So the cross trading
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: is that stout started many years ago is, so imperative
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: to their success going forward. Whenever they're going to have success,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: it's up in the air, man. And Barkley's injury, Smitty's injury,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: we're going to get the injuries in a minute. That's
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the adjunct of this. Offensive line reconfiguration and the massive
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: injury situation are not just one side of the football.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. Usually with the Eagles, it's one side,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: not both. This is insane what's going on here.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's to your point. That's where.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: The Eagles need to get their run game going, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: they're going to try, and we'll get into the injuries there.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: But when you have an offensive line.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: As inexperienced right now as it is and beat up,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and you're also without your great running back, I mean,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a good defense like the Jaguars is not going to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: probably let you establish. They're going to dare you to
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: pass the ball because what do you have in the
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: passing game right now?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, I would play an eight-man front. Go ahead and
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: try to run. You're not going to be able to
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: run against us, and we're going to get after you. Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Anthony Campanelli, like this is probably, he probably will not
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: sleep the night before and be so excited. Yeah. It
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: was probably like Vic, when Vic, well, Vic decided not
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: to blitz against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl because
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: he knew he didn't have to because they were playing
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: a guarded left tackle.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: So this is disgusting. We have to watch it. Maybe
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: if I have a lucky rabbit's foot, I just would,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: please be competitive. Come on, we need a competitive game.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: They weren't competitive against the Rams. I don't know if
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: anybody feels good about it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: But that was weather. Weather had played a part. But, yes,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: it was competitive, shockingly, in a weird, odd way in
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the first half. You couldn't make it up what was
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: going on. But let's move to the injuries because there's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, first of all, we already know
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Dickerson's still on IR. So he ain't coming back. Barkley.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: He's week to week, so he didn't practice with his hamstring.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: So this is what we're talking about with the offense
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: being stripped down. The Hollywood Brown was not able to
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: practice Wednesday. There was no pop-up for the offense. And Devontae,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: you've been saying since last week.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, there wasn't?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, there was.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I forgot. Drew Kendall, like, where did this happen?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So that was my point about being one. I'm already
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: nervous that Drew Kendall missed Wednesday's practice.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: He did go into the tent to get checked. Yep.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: And he came right back. So maybe, and he didn't work.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be concerned yet. I wouldn't be concerned. They
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: leave after Friday's practice for London, but let's just see.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't panic yet. Agreed.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But if you don't get the full practice by Friday,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: then you are looking at Micah Morris at left guard
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and Willie Lampka at center.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Or they could play Ojukwu. They could do it. Either way. Yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: so Hollywood Brown, it's a shame. Like, This is his
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: third week with his ankle injury, which would make you
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: think it's a high ankle. We'll see. Devontae, forget about
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the hamstring. He's week to week here. Hopefully soon he'll
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: start working so we can get a better idea. Now,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: there's some good news. We suspect that this would be
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: the week for Dallas Goddard to at least test his
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: knee with the MCL sprain grade two. This is around
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: when this is around. this is the beginning of when
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: a player could potentially come back. So we'll see what
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: he did get some work. He was able to test
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: it Wednesday. See how the rest of the practice goes
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: the rest of the week here. Fred Johnson started testing
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: that knee that he hurt in practice three weeks ago.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: And then the good news, Zach Bond's progressing in the protocol.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: He worked on Wednesday. He can only do a limit
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: at this point, but the good thing is he's progressing
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: that he needs to get, he needs to be cleared
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: by Friday and Quinion Mitchell is, Good thing is he
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: did get some work in Wednesday. That's a great sign.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Great sign with Nick. It's great.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: That was worrisome. So very, very good. Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So there is a chance as we, you know, when
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: we'll do the pregame show and there's a chance you
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: can get Vaughn Goddard, Fred Johnson and Mitchell all available
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: for this game.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll get all four. You might
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: just get a couple. We'll see.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I think the real, the ones that you really, obviously
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you would love to have bond and mitchell on defense
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: if that can happen.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Goddard i would think that even if he could make it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Back with an mcl sprain just knowing the history of
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: that like it's he's had it tough it's i know
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: you just wonder like are you getting an 100 goddard
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: or just i know trying to like get out there
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and lay it out for us you know.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: What on your on your point you just made it's
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: to the point they have to find somebody who could run.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: It's so bad at tight end. I mean, when they,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: when they, when they put, uh, when they flexed out
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Johnny Munt, I was like, I know that you have
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: to do something with them. I understand. Oh, a couple
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: more that we need to mention.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, really important though. Really important on your tight
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: end point for, for having to have. So on, as
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: of Wednesday, they did not, they could have, but did not. Well,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: he was eligible, I believe to be put in the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: practice window. Um, Grant Calcaterra, but they did not.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: And Stowers either, which is, which is not good.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: We do need to mention these defensive injuries. Grenard with
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the ankle where he couldn't return the game. It didn't work.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Epps with the groin. It's going to be Michael Carter
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: this week. And John Campbell with the knee. Did he
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: have it listed the week before? I have to look
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: that up. I don't remember.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I don't recall that, but he is on it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: He didn't work Wednesday. That's not good.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Obviously they trot. Junior is would start for Campbell. If, um,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: if Vaughn can't play. And obviously Trott Jr. is better
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: than Mike. He's better at the Mike spot could play
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: either Mike or Will. So, look, it's a work in
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: progress with these injuries. And the coaches are being pressed
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: against the wall on this. This is really hard to
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: work like this if you're a coach.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: But you don't control injuries. That's the thing. You just
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: coach them up. Coaches have not been great the last
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: two weeks. That has nothing to do with injuries. You've
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: got to coach up better. The guys that you have,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: it's all tape-based, what we were talking about here. We
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: showed it on inside the tape and Greg was, Greg
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: does not like criticizing coaches, but he, he has a
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: way of saying it where you could read into it,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: that it's gotta be better. Everyone's gotta be better. You
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: gotta do better with the players that you have. That's
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: what they have to do a better job of.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Did you happen to see the line for this game?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it, but I'm going to guess my
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: line would have been eight.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It's actually seven, but I can't even remember the last
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: time that Eagles were seven point dogs.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Can you? No, but it's a home game technically for
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: That's their home away from home. The Eagles are severely
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: beat up.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Right, but I don't think Vegas gives the three to
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the team just because.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: It's– No, but I'm just saying they have a home
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: field advantage. Although I haven't seen a lot of the
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: London games with the Jaguars, so I have to see
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: how loud it is. But the Eagles are so beat
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: up on both sides of the football. They're reeling right now.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: There's nothing you can hang your hat on other than
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: their special teams units have been really good. Really good.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: It's not what you want. Like you love it if
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: you're the coaches, but you don't want that to be
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the reason, like the best reason in the football team.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: That's not what you want that to be third, not first. Right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Dick Elliott's back. He's looked great. A man's the man.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: And Ringo's a special teams demon. Going downfield, making open
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: field tackles. That's what he does. Yep. My goodness gracious.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: This thing is, I was telling our Patreon group, I cannot,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, guys, I want to be so wrong
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: about this where you haze me I was like, you
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: were wrong.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: You idiot.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I'll take it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: We, we, we don't root. Okay. That's not our job,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: but we want a competitive team.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: We don't want 2020 all over again.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: We want interesting stuff to be able to talk to
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: our listeners and we want our listeners to be happy
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: people in general, not have to go to Twitter and
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: say some terrible things about it. That just don't make sense.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: You know what? You know what they haven't said? They've, they've,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: they wanted Sirianni fired after the first loss. They still
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: want him fired terribly. They want this done. They want
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: this done. And they never think about who they want
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: the head coach to be. They just want him out.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: But they haven't done, to their credit, they haven't asked
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Jeff Lurie to sell the team yet.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: They haven't done that yet.
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  Speaker 4: Up they haven't come for howie's head either it seems
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: like how he's a little bit uh how he's kind
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: of been able to survive the fact that he didn't
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: have some of the greatest moves the last two years either.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And some of his drafts, especially recently, it's too early
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to judge, but may not be the best.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: He was on a roll like 21 through 24, one
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: of the best. And then the last two years, I
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: know it's early, but they need to get better returns.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: But as we said, folks to end this year, they're
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: going to start getting some, they're going to get an
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: idea on bell on Kendall trot, Jr. Campbell when he's healthy.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: A lot of guys are going to be playing a lot.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: That's the good thing. Unlike the Phillies, who are the
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: old geezers club with bad contracts, where you're stuck, although
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: we'll see about Miller next year, but at least you're
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: going to get an idea. It's not the way you
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: want to do it, but you know what? Embrace it
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: because it's coming, folks. Here it is.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: The Willie Lampkin era is upon us. Everybody was excited
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: for it. I don't think they realized what it would
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: take to get it, but it is here. And I
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: do look forward.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: To seeing how Willie goes out there and handles himself.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Because even if the team loses, but he actually plays
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: pretty well, he's a fascinating story.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I can't wait. In fact, I'm going to tell Greg. Well,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: it's really your call. Because I know you can't wait
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: to watch the tape of Monday. Yeah. We better have
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: at least, good or bad, we better have.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: We'll be hyper-focused on Will.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I hope he's 61, I think. I hope
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: he's good because he's so fun to watch. Mm-hmm. I
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: know because there's limited contact in training camp and obviously
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: offensive linemen. There's no tackling, but it's not. There's certain
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: things you can't do in training camp, but he didn't
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: seem to care. Like he's so physical, so strong. He
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: was a former wrestler, but that's great. But now you're
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: in the regular season and who the hell knows if
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: he's going to get thrown down, thrown around like a
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: rag doll. Who knows? Don't know. That's the thing. We
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: have no idea what's going to happen.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Expect to see lots of five-man and six-man fronts for
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the Jags to force the Eagles into a one-on-one blocking opportunity.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: They might do an eight-man front. They're not going to
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: blitz like that. They're just going to line them up.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Zero blitzes at every step. You can't throw against us.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Get out of here. We're going to have a 10-man front.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: The safety is going to have a Maragos treatment. They're
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: going to have a 40 yards downfield. They're just going
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: to line up 10. Try to throw against us.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Good luck. You were definitely going to see some creative
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: stuff on Sunday.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: This blip could be nasty, man.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: All right. Good stuff. All right. Excellent stuff.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: We'll have a lot more about this game against the
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Jaguars on the Inside the Birds pregame show with Greg Cosell,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: who will probably himself be very excited to give us
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: his tape observations on what he thinks the offensive line
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: will look like. That's going to do it for this
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: episode of Inside the Birds, the leading podcast in Eagles intel.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: For Adam Kaplan, I'm Jeff Mosher. As always, we thank you.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: for flying with us inside the bird.