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- 0:47Well,
- 0:47good
- 0:48morning
- 0:48everybody,
- 0:48and
- 0:49welcome
- 0:49back
- 0:49to
- 0:49another
- 0:50episode
- 0:50of
- 0:50Adult
- 0:50Child
- 0:51of
- 0:51Dysfunction.
- 0:52Today
- 0:52we
- 0:52have
- 0:53with
- 0:53us
- 0:53a
- 0:53very,
- 0:53very
- 0:54special
- 0:54guest
- 0:54because
- 0:55it's
- 0:55somebody
- 0:55that
- 0:55I've
- 0:56been
- 0:56following
- 0:56her
- 0:57work
- 0:57and
- 0:57her
- 0:57podcast
- 0:58or
- 0:58her,
- 0:59her
- 0:59blog
- 0:59and
- 1:00everything
- 1:00for
- 1:00years
- 1:01and
- 1:01years
- 1:01and
- 1:01years.
- 1:01But
- 1:02today
- 1:02we
- 1:02have
- 1:02with
- 1:02us
- 1:03Jody
- 1:03Lamb.
- 1:04She's
- 1:04a
- 1:04personal
- 1:04growth
- 1:05author
- 1:05dedicated
- 1:06to
- 1:06helping
- 1:06adult
- 1:07children
- 1:07of
- 1:07alcoholics
- 1:08heal
- 1:08from
- 1:09their
- 1:09past
- 1:09and
- 1:09create
- 1:10their
- 1:10dream
- 1:10lives.
- 1:11Her
- 1:11resilience
- 1:12and
- 1:12dedication
- 1:13stem
- 1:13from
- 1:13her
- 1:14own
- 1:14experiences
- 1:15of
- 1:15growing
- 1:15up
- 1:15with
- 1:15an
- 1:16alcoholic
- 1:16mother.
- 1:17Since
- 1:172009,
- 1:18Jody
- 1:19has
- 1:19been
- 1:19sharing
- 1:19the
- 1:19insights
- 1:20with
- 1:20a
- 1:20global
- 1:21community
- 1:21of
- 1:21adult
- 1:22children
- 1:22of
- 1:22alcoholics.
- 1:23Her
- 1:24middle
- 1:24grade
- 1:24novel
- 1:25Easter
- 1:26and
- 1:26Peter's
- 1:27Operation
- 1:27Cool
- 1:28received
- 1:29forward
- 1:30many
- 1:30reviews.
- 1:30I
- 1:31can't
- 1:31read.
- 1:31I
- 1:31don't
- 1:31have
- 1:31my
- 1:31glasses
- 1:32on.
- 1:32In
- 1:32a
- 1:332012
- 1:33book
- 1:34of
- 1:34the
- 1:34Year
- 1:34award
- 1:34for
- 1:35its
- 1:35realistic
- 1:36portrayal
- 1:36of
- 1:36parental
- 1:37alcoholism,
- 1:38on
- 1:38her
- 1:38website,
- 1:39Jody
- 1:39Lamb.com
- 1:40she
- 1:40offers
- 1:41simple
- 1:41strategies
- 1:41to
- 1:42overcome
- 1:42the
- 1:42challenges
- 1:43of
- 1:43being
- 1:43an
- 1:43adult
- 1:43child
- 1:44of
- 1:44an
- 1:44alcoholic
- 1:45and
- 1:45live
- 1:45a
- 1:45peaceful,
- 1:46fulfilling
- 1:47life.
- 1:48I'm
- 1:48just
- 1:48excited
- 1:49to
- 1:49have
- 1:49her
- 1:49here
- 1:49because
- 1:50literally,
- 1:50she
- 1:50was
- 1:51one
- 1:51of
- 1:51the
- 1:51very
- 1:51first
- 1:52people
- 1:52to
- 1:52come
- 1:52online
- 1:53and
- 1:53start
- 1:54talking
- 1:54about
- 1:55this
- 1:55life
- 1:55that
- 1:56so
- 1:56many
- 1:56of
- 1:56us
- 1:57have
- 1:57lived
- 1:57and
- 1:57so
- 1:58many
- 1:58of
- 1:58us
- 1:58have
- 1:58just
- 1:58stayed
- 1:59silent
- 2:00about.
- 2:00So
- 2:00welcome,
- 2:01Jody.
- 2:02Thank
- 2:02you
- 2:02so
- 2:03much,
- 2:03Tammy.
- 2:04Yeah.
- 2:05So
- 2:05tell
- 2:05us
- 2:05a
- 2:05little
- 2:06bit.
- 2:06I
- 2:06know
- 2:06you
- 2:06were,
- 2:07your
- 2:07mother
- 2:07was
- 2:08obviously
- 2:08an
- 2:08alcoholic,
- 2:09but
- 2:10tell
- 2:10us
- 2:10a
- 2:10little
- 2:10bit
- 2:10about
- 2:10your
- 2:11journey
- 2:11and
- 2:11how
- 2:12you
- 2:12felt
- 2:12the
- 2:12need
- 2:13to
- 2:13start
- 2:13advocating
- 2:14and
- 2:14really
- 2:14advocating
- 2:15for
- 2:15your
- 2:16past.
- 2:17Yeah,
- 2:18yeah.
- 2:19Well,
- 2:20like
- 2:20you,
- 2:21you
- 2:21know,
- 2:21I
- 2:22spent
- 2:22most
- 2:23of
- 2:23my
- 2:23adult
- 2:24life
- 2:24until
- 2:24I
- 2:24was
- 2:2526,
- 2:25very
- 2:26focused
- 2:26on
- 2:27my
- 2:27quest,
- 2:28my
- 2:28lifelong
- 2:29quest,
- 2:29to
- 2:30convince
- 2:31my
- 2:31mother
- 2:31to
- 2:32finally
- 2:32stop
- 2:32drinking.
- 2:33And
- 2:34her
- 2:34drinking
- 2:35had
- 2:36affected
- 2:36me
- 2:36tremendously
- 2:37growing
- 2:37up.
- 2:38And
- 2:38as
- 2:39her
- 2:39disease
- 2:40progressed
- 2:41into
- 2:41my
- 2:41teenage
- 2:42years
- 2:42and
- 2:43early
- 2:43adult
- 2:43years,
- 2:44I
- 2:44was
- 2:44just
- 2:45so
- 2:45determined,
- 2:46you
- 2:46know,
- 2:46as
- 2:47the
- 2:47eldest
- 2:47daughter
- 2:48of
- 2:48two,
- 2:49to
- 2:49be
- 2:49the
- 2:49one
- 2:50to,
- 2:50to,
- 2:50to
- 2:50make
- 2:51her
- 2:51finally
- 2:52accept
- 2:52help
- 2:53and
- 2:53we
- 2:54could
- 2:54all
- 2:54live
- 2:54happily
- 2:55ever
- 2:55after.
- 2:55That's
- 2:56what
- 2:56I
- 2:56thought.
- 2:56If
- 2:57she,
- 2:57she
- 2:57stopped
- 2:58drinking,
- 2:58the
- 2:58chaos
- 2:59would
- 2:59stop
- 3:00and
- 3:00my
- 3:00father,
- 3:01my
- 3:01sister
- 3:01and
- 3:01I
- 3:02could,
- 3:02could
- 3:03live
- 3:03our
- 3:03own
- 3:03life
- 3:04because
- 3:05as
- 3:05is
- 3:06often
- 3:06the
- 3:06case,
- 3:07we
- 3:07really
- 3:07didn't
- 3:08have
- 3:08our
- 3:08own
- 3:09lives.
- 3:09We
- 3:09had
- 3:09sort
- 3:10of
- 3:10one
- 3:10big
- 3:11chaotic
- 3:12life
- 3:12that
- 3:12revolved
- 3:13around
- 3:13my
- 3:13mother's
- 3:14drinking.
- 3:15And,
- 3:16you
- 3:16know,
- 3:16after
- 3:17doing
- 3:17everything
- 3:17I
- 3:18could
- 3:18think
- 3:18to
- 3:18do
- 3:19to
- 3:19help
- 3:20her
- 3:20at
- 3:2126,
- 3:21I
- 3:22finally
- 3:22hit
- 3:23my
- 3:23own
- 3:23rock
- 3:24bottom.
- 3:24I
- 3:24was
- 3:25exhausted,
- 3:26I
- 3:26was
- 3:27deeply
- 3:27depressed.
- 3:28I
- 3:29dreaded
- 3:29every
- 3:30day.
- 3:30And
- 3:31I
- 3:31thought,
- 3:31I'm
- 3:32not
- 3:32sure
- 3:32I
- 3:32will
- 3:32survive
- 3:33this
- 3:34the
- 3:34way
- 3:34that
- 3:34it
- 3:34feels.
- 3:35I,
- 3:35I
- 3:36thought
- 3:36somehow
- 3:37some
- 3:37way
- 3:38it
- 3:38was
- 3:38going
- 3:38to
- 3:38take
- 3:38my
- 3:39life.
- 3:39And
- 3:40so
- 3:40it
- 3:40was
- 3:40this
- 3:40desperation
- 3:41point.
- 3:42I
- 3:42finally
- 3:43went
- 3:43to
- 3:43an
- 3:44Al
- 3:44Anon
- 3:44meeting,
- 3:45and
- 3:45I
- 3:45went
- 3:45there
- 3:46still
- 3:46desperate
- 3:47for
- 3:47the
- 3:48solution
- 3:49to
- 3:49the
- 3:49drinking.
- 3:50And
- 3:51it
- 3:51was
- 3:51there
- 3:51when
- 3:51I
- 3:52heard
- 3:52those
- 3:53fellow
- 3:54participants
- 3:55sharing
- 3:55their
- 3:55story
- 3:56that
- 3:56I
- 3:56thought,
- 3:57that's.
- 3:58That's
- 3:58my
- 3:58story.
- 3:59That's
- 3:59how
- 3:59I
- 4:00felt.
- 4:00And
- 4:01it
- 4:01was
- 4:01in
- 4:02that
- 4:02I
- 4:03had
- 4:03this
- 4:03true
- 4:03aha.
- 4:04That
- 4:04I
- 4:05was
- 4:05ill.
- 4:05I
- 4:05was
- 4:06very
- 4:06ill.
- 4:07And
- 4:07that
- 4:08it
- 4:08was
- 4:08my
- 4:09time
- 4:09to
- 4:10stop
- 4:10obsessing
- 4:11over
- 4:12my
- 4:12mother's
- 4:12drinking
- 4:13and
- 4:13focus
- 4:13on
- 4:13taking
- 4:14good
- 4:14care
- 4:14of
- 4:14me.
- 4:15And
- 4:15that
- 4:15was
- 4:1615
- 4:16years
- 4:16ago.
- 4:17That
- 4:17was
- 4:17the
- 4:17start
- 4:18of
- 4:18my.
- 4:18My
- 4:18journey.
- 4:19And
- 4:20I'm
- 4:21so
- 4:21thrilled
- 4:22to
- 4:22report
- 4:22that
- 4:23after
- 4:23a
- 4:23lot
- 4:23of
- 4:24focus
- 4:24on
- 4:24me
- 4:25and
- 4:25therapy,
- 4:26self
- 4:26care,
- 4:27education,
- 4:28that
- 4:28I
- 4:29truly
- 4:29love
- 4:30the
- 4:30life
- 4:30that
- 4:30I
- 4:31have
- 4:31today
- 4:31and
- 4:32back
- 4:32at
- 4:3326
- 4:33years
- 4:34old
- 4:34at
- 4:34that
- 4:34Al
- 4:34Anon
- 4:35meeting,
- 4:35while
- 4:35walking
- 4:36down
- 4:36the
- 4:36steps
- 4:37into
- 4:37that
- 4:37meeting,
- 4:38I
- 4:38couldn't
- 4:38have
- 4:38imagined
- 4:39it.
- 4:39And
- 4:40so
- 4:40I
- 4:40feel
- 4:40very
- 4:41compelled
- 4:42to
- 4:42share
- 4:42my
- 4:43story,
- 4:43to
- 4:44help
- 4:44others
- 4:45learn
- 4:46from
- 4:46what
- 4:46I've
- 4:47learned
- 4:47and
- 4:47to
- 4:48kind
- 4:48of
- 4:48continue
- 4:48that
- 4:49conversation
- 4:49just
- 4:49as
- 4:50you're
- 4:50doing.
- 4:50And
- 4:51it's
- 4:51been
- 4:51very
- 4:51inspiring
- 4:52to
- 4:53hear
- 4:53from.
- 4:53From
- 4:54so
- 4:54many
- 4:54others
- 4:54who
- 4:54share
- 4:55our
- 4:56story.
- 4:57Oh,
- 4:57yeah,
- 4:58I
- 4:58can't
- 4:58even
- 4:58imagine.
- 4:59I
- 4:59mean,
- 4:59I
- 4:59can
- 4:59imagine
- 5:00because
- 5:00that's
- 5:00why
- 5:00I
- 5:00do
- 5:01what
- 5:01I
- 5:01do.
- 5:01It's
- 5:02funny
- 5:02that
- 5:02you
- 5:02said
- 5:0226
- 5:03was
- 5:03your
- 5:04aha
- 5:04moment,
- 5:04because
- 5:05that
- 5:05was
- 5:05my
- 5:05aha
- 5:06moment.
- 5:06I
- 5:07had
- 5:07been
- 5:07through
- 5:07all
- 5:08of.
- 5:08Yeah,
- 5:08it
- 5:08was
- 5:08very
- 5:08interesting.
- 5:09I
- 5:09was
- 5:09actually
- 5:09getting
- 5:10ready
- 5:10to
- 5:10have
- 5:10my
- 5:10first
- 5:10child.
- 5:11And
- 5:12I
- 5:12don't
- 5:12know
- 5:12if
- 5:12you
- 5:12have
- 5:13children,
- 5:13but
- 5:13if
- 5:13you.
- 5:13Have
- 5:14you
- 5:14ever
- 5:14read
- 5:14the
- 5:14book
- 5:14love
- 5:15you
- 5:15forever?
- 5:16No,
- 5:17but
- 5:17I've
- 5:17heard
- 5:17of
- 5:18it.
- 5:18Okay,
- 5:19so
- 5:19for
- 5:19those
- 5:19of
- 5:19you,
- 5:20you
- 5:20that
- 5:20have
- 5:21listened
- 5:21to
- 5:21other
- 5:21episodes,
- 5:22you've
- 5:22probably
- 5:22heard
- 5:22me
- 5:22mention
- 5:23this,
- 5:23but
- 5:23it's
- 5:23a
- 5:24book
- 5:24about.
- 5:25It's
- 5:25a
- 5:25children's
- 5:25book,
- 5:26but
- 5:26it's
- 5:26about
- 5:26a
- 5:26mother's
- 5:26unconditional
- 5:27love
- 5:28for
- 5:28her
- 5:28son.
- 5:29So
- 5:30she's
- 5:30pregnant
- 5:30and
- 5:30she's
- 5:31rocking
- 5:31back
- 5:31and
- 5:31forth
- 5:32in
- 5:32the
- 5:32rocking
- 5:33chair
- 5:33and
- 5:33she's
- 5:33singing,
- 5:34I
- 5:34love
- 5:34you
- 5:34forever.
- 5:34I
- 5:35like
- 5:35you
- 5:35for
- 5:35always,
- 5:35Forever
- 5:36and
- 5:36ever
- 5:36My
- 5:36baby
- 5:37you'll
- 5:37be.
- 5:37And
- 5:38it
- 5:38goes
- 5:38through
- 5:38all
- 5:38these
- 5:39stages
- 5:39where
- 5:39he's.
- 5:39Terrible
- 5:40twos,
- 5:40you
- 5:41know,
- 5:41being
- 5:41a
- 5:41bratty
- 5:41teenager
- 5:42doing
- 5:42all
- 5:42this
- 5:43stuff,
- 5:43getting
- 5:43grown,
- 5:44moving
- 5:44out.
- 5:45At
- 5:45the
- 5:45end
- 5:45of
- 5:45the
- 5:46book,
- 5:46the
- 5:46tables
- 5:47are
- 5:47turned
- 5:47and
- 5:48she's
- 5:48now
- 5:48weak
- 5:49and
- 5:49frail
- 5:49and
- 5:50old.
- 5:50And
- 5:50he's
- 5:51rocking
- 5:51her,
- 5:52singing
- 5:53the
- 5:53same
- 5:53song,
- 5:53but
- 5:54singing,
- 5:54my
- 5:54mommy
- 5:54you'll
- 5:55be.
- 5:55And
- 5:56I
- 5:56was
- 5:56pregnant
- 5:56with
- 5:57my
- 5:57first
- 5:57child
- 5:58reading
- 5:59that
- 5:59book.
- 5:59And
- 5:59it
- 6:00should
- 6:00have
- 6:00been
- 6:00like
- 6:00this
- 6:00really
- 6:01serendipitous,
- 6:02like,
- 6:02happy
- 6:02moment.
- 6:03And
- 6:04I
- 6:04totally
- 6:04broke
- 6:04down
- 6:05because
- 6:05I
- 6:05was
- 6:05like,
- 6:06I
- 6:06don't
- 6:06even
- 6:06have
- 6:06a
- 6:06memory
- 6:07of
- 6:07hugging
- 6:07my
- 6:08mother.
- 6:08Like,
- 6:08I
- 6:09don't
- 6:09even
- 6:09know
- 6:09what
- 6:09unconditional
- 6:10love
- 6:10feels
- 6:11like.
- 6:11And
- 6:11that
- 6:11was
- 6:11my
- 6:12aha
- 6:12moment.
- 6:12And
- 6:12I
- 6:13thought,
- 6:14obviously,
- 6:15the
- 6:15answer
- 6:15can't
- 6:16be
- 6:16just
- 6:16doing
- 6:16the
- 6:17exact
- 6:17opposite
- 6:18of
- 6:18what
- 6:19I
- 6:19saw.
- 6:20That
- 6:20can't
- 6:20be
- 6:20just
- 6:20the
- 6:21answer.
- 6:21So
- 6:21that's
- 6:22when
- 6:22that
- 6:22was
- 6:22my
- 6:22aha
- 6:23moment
- 6:23at
- 6:23exactly
- 6:2426
- 6:25years
- 6:25old.
- 6:26So,
- 6:26I
- 6:27mean,
- 6:27God
- 6:27bless
- 6:28it
- 6:28that
- 6:28we
- 6:28got
- 6:29it
- 6:29that
- 6:29early,
- 6:29because
- 6:30some
- 6:30people
- 6:30are
- 6:30in
- 6:31their
- 6:3150s
- 6:32and
- 6:3260s
- 6:32going,
- 6:33life's
- 6:34just
- 6:34not
- 6:34quite
- 6:35right.
- 6:35And
- 6:35I
- 6:35can't
- 6:36put
- 6:36my
- 6:36finger
- 6:36on
- 6:37it.
- 6:38Well,
- 6:39I'm
- 6:39so
- 6:39grateful
- 6:40that
- 6:40that
- 6:40book
- 6:41inspired
- 6:41you.
- 6:41The
- 6:42books
- 6:42are
- 6:42very
- 6:43powerful.
- 6:44Absolutely.
- 6:45So.
- 6:46So
- 6:46tell
- 6:46us.
- 6:47So
- 6:47the
- 6:47work
- 6:47you
- 6:47do
- 6:48is.
- 6:48I
- 6:48mean,
- 6:48you
- 6:49write,
- 6:49you
- 6:49have
- 6:49a
- 6:49blog,
- 6:50you
- 6:50do
- 6:50all
- 6:50kinds
- 6:50of
- 6:51stuff.
- 6:51But
- 6:53what.
- 6:54Okay,
- 6:54so
- 6:54in
- 6:54Al
- 6:54Anon.
- 6:55I
- 6:55know
- 6:55I
- 6:55went
- 6:56to
- 6:56Al
- 6:56Anon
- 6:56for
- 6:56many,
- 6:57many
- 6:57years.
- 6:57Did
- 6:58you.
- 6:58Did
- 6:58you
- 6:59kind
- 6:59of
- 6:59move
- 7:00out
- 7:00of
- 7:00Al
- 7:00Anon
- 7:01to
- 7:01go
- 7:01to
- 7:01anything
- 7:01else,
- 7:02or
- 7:02was
- 7:02that
- 7:02your
- 7:02answer?
- 7:02Did
- 7:03you,
- 7:03like,
- 7:03move
- 7:03to
- 7:03adult
- 7:04children
- 7:04of
- 7:04alcoholics
- 7:05after
- 7:06Al
- 7:06Anon?
- 7:08Yeah,
- 7:08when
- 7:08I.
- 7:09So
- 7:09at
- 7:09that
- 7:09point,
- 7:10when
- 7:10I
- 7:10started
- 7:10my
- 7:11journey,
- 7:11it
- 7:11began
- 7:12with
- 7:12Al
- 7:12Anon,
- 7:13and
- 7:13hearing
- 7:13those
- 7:14stories
- 7:15at
- 7:15the
- 7:15meetings
- 7:16kind
- 7:16of
- 7:16helped
- 7:17set
- 7:18my
- 7:18path.
- 7:19So
- 7:19I
- 7:19was.
- 7:20I
- 7:20was
- 7:20desperate
- 7:21at
- 7:21that
- 7:21point
- 7:21for
- 7:22kind
- 7:22of
- 7:22a
- 7:22playbook.
- 7:23And
- 7:23you
- 7:23probably
- 7:23felt
- 7:24that
- 7:24way
- 7:24at
- 7:2426,
- 7:25when
- 7:25you
- 7:25were
- 7:25about
- 7:25to
- 7:26have
- 7:26a
- 7:26child.
- 7:26You
- 7:26know,
- 7:27what
- 7:27do
- 7:27I
- 7:27do?
- 7:27I
- 7:28recognize
- 7:28now
- 7:29that
- 7:29I've
- 7:29been
- 7:30so
- 7:30deeply
- 7:30affected.
- 7:31What
- 7:32do
- 7:32I
- 7:32do?
- 7:32Well,
- 7:33I
- 7:33know
- 7:33no
- 7:33playbook
- 7:34existed,
- 7:35so
- 7:35what
- 7:35I
- 7:35thought
- 7:36is
- 7:36I
- 7:36could
- 7:37get
- 7:37more
- 7:37educated.
- 7:38And
- 7:39so
- 7:39I
- 7:39started
- 7:39reading
- 7:40more
- 7:40about
- 7:40the
- 7:41science
- 7:41of
- 7:41addiction
- 7:42and
- 7:42truly
- 7:43understanding
- 7:43what
- 7:44had
- 7:44happened
- 7:45to
- 7:45my
- 7:46family.
- 7:46What
- 7:47my
- 7:47mother,
- 7:47you
- 7:48know,
- 7:48was.
- 7:48Was
- 7:49deeply
- 7:49addicted
- 7:50to
- 7:50alcohol.
- 7:51And
- 7:51up
- 7:51until
- 7:51that
- 7:52point,
- 7:52I
- 7:52did
- 7:52not
- 7:53understand
- 7:54the
- 7:54true
- 7:55science
- 7:55of
- 7:55addiction.
- 7:55I
- 7:56thought
- 7:56there
- 7:56was
- 7:56a
- 7:56lot
- 7:56more
- 7:56decision
- 7:57making
- 7:57that
- 7:57she
- 7:58was
- 7:58making.
- 7:59And
- 8:00so
- 8:00that
- 8:00that
- 8:01emphasis
- 8:02on
- 8:02education
- 8:03really
- 8:03opened
- 8:04my
- 8:04eyes
- 8:04to
- 8:04realize
- 8:05that
- 8:05I
- 8:06was.
- 8:06I
- 8:06had
- 8:06a
- 8:07completely
- 8:07normal
- 8:08reaction
- 8:09to
- 8:09everything
- 8:10that
- 8:10had
- 8:10happened.
- 8:11And
- 8:12it
- 8:12was
- 8:12also
- 8:13very
- 8:13bittersweet
- 8:14to
- 8:14discover
- 8:14just
- 8:15how
- 8:15common
- 8:16it
- 8:16is.
- 8:18Up
- 8:18until
- 8:18that
- 8:19point,
- 8:19I
- 8:19felt
- 8:19very
- 8:20alone,
- 8:20and
- 8:21it
- 8:21was
- 8:21such
- 8:21a
- 8:21secret,
- 8:23and
- 8:23no
- 8:23one
- 8:24at
- 8:24school
- 8:24or
- 8:25in
- 8:25my
- 8:26world
- 8:27talked
- 8:27about
- 8:27it.
- 8:28So
- 8:28I
- 8:28felt
- 8:28very
- 8:29alone.
- 8:29And
- 8:30so
- 8:30it
- 8:30was
- 8:30a
- 8:30very
- 8:30bittersweet
- 8:31feeling
- 8:31to
- 8:31think
- 8:32there
- 8:32are
- 8:33so
- 8:33many
- 8:33other
- 8:33people
- 8:33who
- 8:34have
- 8:35experienced
- 8:35this,
- 8:36so
- 8:36I'm
- 8:36not
- 8:36alone.
- 8:37But
- 8:37also
- 8:37there
- 8:38are
- 8:38so
- 8:38many
- 8:38people
- 8:39who've
- 8:39experienced
- 8:39this.
- 8:40And
- 8:40that
- 8:40was
- 8:40very
- 8:41hard
- 8:42to
- 8:42recognize
- 8:43because
- 8:43I
- 8:44knew
- 8:44how
- 8:44painful
- 8:45that.
- 8:45That
- 8:46it
- 8:46was.
- 8:47So
- 8:47I
- 8:47kept
- 8:47going
- 8:47to
- 8:48the
- 8:48Al
- 8:48Anon
- 8:48meetings.
- 8:49I
- 8:49did
- 8:49go
- 8:49to
- 8:50adult
- 8:50children
- 8:51of
- 8:51dysfunction
- 8:52a
- 8:52bit,
- 8:52too.
- 8:52I
- 8:53spent
- 8:53a
- 8:53lot
- 8:53of
- 8:53time
- 8:54for
- 8:54about
- 8:54three
- 8:54or
- 8:54four
- 8:55years
- 8:55in
- 8:56both
- 8:56groups.
- 8:57And,
- 8:58you
- 8:58know,
- 8:59as
- 8:59you
- 8:59probably
- 8:59have
- 9:00shared
- 9:00with
- 9:00others,
- 9:01sometimes
- 9:01you
- 9:01have
- 9:02to
- 9:02go
- 9:03to
- 9:03a
- 9:03few
- 9:03different
- 9:03meetings
- 9:04to
- 9:04find
- 9:05one
- 9:05that
- 9:05fits
- 9:05your
- 9:06style.
- 9:06They
- 9:06all
- 9:06have
- 9:06a
- 9:06different
- 9:07vibe
- 9:07or
- 9:08a
- 9:08different
- 9:08focus.
- 9:09And
- 9:09so
- 9:10that
- 9:10was
- 9:10very
- 9:10helpful.
- 9:11And
- 9:11then
- 9:12around
- 9:12that
- 9:12time,
- 9:13I
- 9:13started
- 9:14therapy
- 9:15and
- 9:16found
- 9:16a
- 9:16few
- 9:17who,
- 9:18you
- 9:18know,
- 9:18had
- 9:19acoa
- 9:19or
- 9:20adult
- 9:20children
- 9:20of
- 9:21alcoholics
- 9:21syndrome
- 9:22and
- 9:22dysfunctional
- 9:23family
- 9:23background.
- 9:24But,
- 9:24you
- 9:24know,
- 9:25they.
- 9:25They
- 9:25didn't
- 9:26really
- 9:26connect
- 9:27with
- 9:28me.
- 9:28I
- 9:28found
- 9:28that
- 9:28they
- 9:29didn't
- 9:29have
- 9:30the
- 9:31true
- 9:31understanding
- 9:32of
- 9:32what
- 9:32I'd
- 9:33gone
- 9:33through.
- 9:33So
- 9:33it
- 9:34took
- 9:34me
- 9:34a
- 9:34few
- 9:34different
- 9:35therapists.
- 9:36I
- 9:36view
- 9:36it
- 9:36kind
- 9:36of
- 9:37like
- 9:37dating,
- 9:37where
- 9:38you
- 9:38have
- 9:38to
- 9:38spend
- 9:39time
- 9:39with
- 9:40different
- 9:40therapists
- 9:41to
- 9:41really
- 9:42find
- 9:42one
- 9:42who
- 9:43fits
- 9:43you
- 9:43at
- 9:44that
- 9:44moment.
- 9:44And
- 9:45so,
- 9:45you
- 9:45know,
- 9:45after
- 9:46a
- 9:46few
- 9:46years,
- 9:46I
- 9:47found
- 9:47a
- 9:47therapist
- 9:47who
- 9:48really
- 9:48clicked
- 9:48well
- 9:48with
- 9:49me,
- 9:49who
- 9:49had
- 9:49grown
- 9:50up
- 9:50with
- 9:51an
- 9:51alcoholic
- 9:51father
- 9:52and
- 9:52had.
- 9:53Was
- 9:53an
- 9:53alcoholic
- 9:53in
- 9:54recovery
- 9:54himself.
- 9:55So
- 9:55he
- 9:56got
- 9:56me
- 9:57immediately
- 9:57and
- 9:58kind
- 9:58of
- 9:58set
- 9:58me
- 9:59on
- 9:59the
- 9:59path,
- 10:00asking
- 10:00me
- 10:00questions
- 10:01very
- 10:01directly
- 10:02that
- 10:02helped
- 10:02open
- 10:02my
- 10:03eyes
- 10:03to
- 10:04what
- 10:04I
- 10:04needed
- 10:04to
- 10:05do.
- 10:05And
- 10:06around
- 10:07that
- 10:07time,
- 10:07with
- 10:07the
- 10:08therapy
- 10:08and
- 10:08education,
- 10:09I
- 10:09started
- 10:10truly
- 10:10understanding
- 10:12what
- 10:12self
- 10:12care
- 10:13was
- 10:13because
- 10:14I
- 10:14didn't
- 10:14know
- 10:14what
- 10:14it
- 10:14meant
- 10:15to
- 10:15take
- 10:15good
- 10:15care
- 10:15of
- 10:16myself
- 10:16because
- 10:16I'd
- 10:16never
- 10:17done
- 10:17it
- 10:17before.
- 10:18And
- 10:18I
- 10:18started
- 10:18doing
- 10:19things
- 10:19that
- 10:19as
- 10:20a
- 10:20child,
- 10:20I
- 10:20loved
- 10:21to
- 10:21do
- 10:22and
- 10:22kind
- 10:23of
- 10:23being
- 10:23free
- 10:23for
- 10:24the
- 10:24first
- 10:24time.
- 10:24And
- 10:25that's
- 10:25when
- 10:25things
- 10:26really
- 10:26started
- 10:26to
- 10:27change
- 10:27for
- 10:28me
- 10:28and
- 10:30led
- 10:30me
- 10:30to
- 10:31where
- 10:31I
- 10:31am
- 10:31today.
- 10:32Awesome.
- 10:33So
- 10:33did
- 10:34you.
- 10:34And
- 10:34I
- 10:34don't
- 10:35know
- 10:35if
- 10:35I
- 10:35get
- 10:36go
- 10:36anywhere.
- 10:36We
- 10:37didn't
- 10:37talk
- 10:37about
- 10:37this
- 10:37before.
- 10:37Usually
- 10:38I
- 10:38say,
- 10:38is
- 10:38there
- 10:38anywhere
- 10:39you
- 10:39don't
- 10:39want
- 10:39me
- 10:39to
- 10:40go
- 10:40or
- 10:40talk
- 10:40about
- 10:41or.
- 10:42And
- 10:42if
- 10:42I
- 10:42do
- 10:42just
- 10:43kind
- 10:43of
- 10:43nod
- 10:43or
- 10:43say,
- 10:44stop,
- 10:44you
- 10:44know,
- 10:44good
- 10:45enough.
- 10:45But
- 10:46is
- 10:46you.
- 10:46Let's
- 10:47let
- 10:47me
- 10:47ask
- 10:47this
- 10:47first.
- 10:47Do
- 10:48you
- 10:48still
- 10:48have
- 10:48a
- 10:48good
- 10:49relationship
- 10:49with
- 10:49your
- 10:49parents?
- 10:51Well,
- 10:51it's
- 10:51so
- 10:52fascinating,
- 10:53Tammy.
- 10:54I
- 10:54at
- 10:55one
- 10:55time
- 10:55thought
- 10:56that
- 10:56I
- 10:56could
- 10:56never
- 10:57have
- 10:57a
- 10:57good
- 10:57relationship
- 10:58with
- 10:58my
- 10:59mother,
- 11:00but
- 11:00I
- 11:00would
- 11:01say
- 11:01today
- 11:01it's
- 11:02good.
- 11:03We
- 11:03got
- 11:04into
- 11:04a
- 11:04very
- 11:05healthy
- 11:05spot
- 11:06for
- 11:07one
- 11:07reason
- 11:07alone,
- 11:08and
- 11:08that
- 11:08is
- 11:09boundaries.
- 11:10Because
- 11:11I
- 11:11had
- 11:11to
- 11:12set
- 11:12very
- 11:13firm
- 11:13boundaries
- 11:14with
- 11:14her,
- 11:15I'd
- 11:15stick
- 11:16to
- 11:16them.
- 11:16And
- 11:16that
- 11:17was
- 11:17one
- 11:17of
- 11:17the
- 11:17hardest
- 11:18things
- 11:18I've
- 11:18ever
- 11:19done
- 11:19in
- 11:19my
- 11:19entire
- 11:19life.
- 11:20And
- 11:21for
- 11:21that
- 11:21reason,
- 11:22we've
- 11:23been
- 11:23able
- 11:23to
- 11:24kind
- 11:24of
- 11:24grow
- 11:24this
- 11:25relationship.
- 11:25So
- 11:25we
- 11:26talk
- 11:26about
- 11:26once
- 11:26a
- 11:26week.
- 11:27We
- 11:28spend
- 11:28time
- 11:28as
- 11:29a
- 11:29family
- 11:29at
- 11:29holidays,
- 11:30and
- 11:30occasionally,
- 11:32you
- 11:32know,
- 11:32get
- 11:32together.
- 11:33She
- 11:33still
- 11:34is
- 11:35Active.
- 11:35And
- 11:36she
- 11:36still
- 11:36suffers
- 11:37from
- 11:37her
- 11:37substance
- 11:37use
- 11:38disorder,
- 11:38but
- 11:38she's
- 11:39in
- 11:39a
- 11:39much
- 11:39better
- 11:39spot
- 11:40than
- 11:40I
- 11:40really
- 11:41ever
- 11:41could
- 11:41have
- 11:41imagined.
- 11:42My
- 11:43father
- 11:43passed
- 11:43away
- 11:43about
- 11:4410
- 11:44years
- 11:44ago,
- 11:46and
- 11:46I
- 11:47didn't.
- 11:47At
- 11:47that
- 11:48time,
- 11:48when
- 11:48he
- 11:48passed
- 11:48away,
- 11:49I.
- 11:49I
- 11:49didn't
- 11:49think
- 11:50that
- 11:50she
- 11:50would
- 11:50survive
- 11:51it.
- 11:51I
- 11:51feared
- 11:52that
- 11:52she
- 11:52would.
- 11:54The
- 11:54grief
- 11:55coupled
- 11:55with
- 11:55everything
- 11:56else
- 11:56she
- 11:56already
- 11:56had
- 11:57going
- 11:57on.
- 11:58But
- 11:58amazingly,
- 11:59when
- 11:59she
- 11:59was
- 12:00forced
- 12:00to
- 12:00stand
- 12:00on
- 12:01her
- 12:01own
- 12:01two
- 12:01feet
- 12:01and
- 12:02take
- 12:03care
- 12:03of
- 12:03herself
- 12:04and
- 12:04respect
- 12:05my
- 12:05boundaries,
- 12:06interestingly,
- 12:08she
- 12:08started
- 12:08to
- 12:08get
- 12:09better
- 12:09herself.
- 12:10That's.
- 12:11That's
- 12:11great.
- 12:11And
- 12:12I
- 12:12love.
- 12:12I
- 12:12love
- 12:13stories
- 12:13where
- 12:13people
- 12:13can
- 12:14actually
- 12:14reconcile
- 12:15and
- 12:15then
- 12:15they
- 12:15can
- 12:16re.
- 12:16Establish
- 12:17and
- 12:17mend
- 12:17that
- 12:18relationship.
- 12:19Because.
- 12:20Because
- 12:20I
- 12:21don't
- 12:21know.
- 12:21Again,
- 12:21I
- 12:21don't
- 12:22know
- 12:22what
- 12:22your.
- 12:22I
- 12:23know
- 12:23there
- 12:23was
- 12:23chaos.
- 12:23I
- 12:23know
- 12:24there
- 12:24was
- 12:24dysfunction.
- 12:25I
- 12:25know
- 12:25there
- 12:25was
- 12:25confusion.
- 12:27I
- 12:27don't
- 12:27know
- 12:27if
- 12:27there
- 12:28was
- 12:28fear
- 12:28and
- 12:28a
- 12:29physical
- 12:29abuse.
- 12:29I
- 12:29don't
- 12:29know
- 12:30any
- 12:30of
- 12:30those
- 12:30details.
- 12:31But
- 12:31it's
- 12:32good
- 12:32to
- 12:32know
- 12:32that
- 12:33so
- 12:33many
- 12:33people
- 12:34can.
- 12:34You
- 12:34can
- 12:34reestablish
- 12:35that.
- 12:35And
- 12:36going
- 12:36to
- 12:36Al
- 12:37Anon
- 12:37sometimes,
- 12:38that
- 12:38was.
- 12:39That
- 12:39was
- 12:39a
- 12:39big
- 12:39turning
- 12:40point
- 12:40for
- 12:40me.
- 12:41I
- 12:41remember
- 12:41my
- 12:41father
- 12:42told
- 12:42me
- 12:42when
- 12:42I
- 12:42was
- 12:4213,
- 12:43because
- 12:43he
- 12:43was
- 12:44an
- 12:44alcoholic
- 12:44as
- 12:44well,
- 12:45and
- 12:45he
- 12:46knew.
- 12:46He
- 12:46said
- 12:46to
- 12:46me,
- 12:47when
- 12:47I
- 12:47was
- 12:4713
- 12:47years
- 12:47old,
- 12:48Tammy,
- 12:48your
- 12:48mother
- 12:49and
- 12:49I
- 12:49are
- 12:49doing
- 12:49irreparable
- 12:50damage
- 12:51to
- 12:51you
- 12:51and
- 12:51your
- 12:51brother
- 12:51and
- 12:51sister.
- 12:52Oh,
- 12:52wow.
- 12:52I
- 12:52don't
- 12:53know
- 12:53how
- 12:53to
- 12:53help
- 12:53you.
- 12:54I
- 12:54was
- 12:55like,
- 12:55okay,
- 12:56so,
- 12:57like,
- 12:58so
- 12:58what
- 12:58do
- 12:58I
- 12:58do
- 12:58with
- 12:59that?
- 12:59And
- 12:59I
- 12:59went
- 12:59to
- 13:00an
- 13:00alatine
- 13:00meeting
- 13:02and
- 13:02they
- 13:03were
- 13:03talking
- 13:03about
- 13:03empathy.
- 13:04That
- 13:05was
- 13:05the
- 13:05subject
- 13:05of
- 13:05the
- 13:06night.
- 13:06And
- 13:07the
- 13:07very
- 13:07night
- 13:08before
- 13:09my
- 13:10mom
- 13:10had.
- 13:10It
- 13:10was
- 13:10kind
- 13:11of
- 13:11a.
- 13:11Just
- 13:11a
- 13:11bad
- 13:11situation.
- 13:12My
- 13:12mom
- 13:13had
- 13:13been
- 13:13drinking.
- 13:13Obviously
- 13:14they
- 13:14were
- 13:14getting
- 13:15ready
- 13:15to
- 13:15get
- 13:15divorced.
- 13:16And
- 13:16back
- 13:16in
- 13:16the
- 13:1670s,
- 13:17there
- 13:17wasn't
- 13:17a,
- 13:18you
- 13:19know,
- 13:19there
- 13:19wasn't
- 13:19custody
- 13:20battles.
- 13:20Dad
- 13:21got,
- 13:21mom
- 13:21got.
- 13:22Basically,
- 13:23unless
- 13:24you
- 13:24could
- 13:24prove
- 13:24her
- 13:25unfit,
- 13:25mom
- 13:25got
- 13:26custody.
- 13:26That's
- 13:26kind
- 13:27of
- 13:27how
- 13:27it
- 13:27was
- 13:27a
- 13:28while
- 13:28ago.
- 13:29So
- 13:29she
- 13:30was
- 13:30kind
- 13:30of
- 13:30nervous
- 13:30about
- 13:31that.
- 13:31So
- 13:31she
- 13:31was
- 13:32doing
- 13:32everything
- 13:32she
- 13:32could
- 13:33to
- 13:33get
- 13:33my
- 13:34father
- 13:34to
- 13:35be
- 13:35abusive
- 13:35to
- 13:36her.
- 13:36So
- 13:36that
- 13:36we
- 13:36would
- 13:37have
- 13:37to
- 13:37say,
- 13:37dad
- 13:37hits
- 13:38mom.
- 13:38And
- 13:39my
- 13:39father
- 13:39was
- 13:39always
- 13:40like
- 13:40the
- 13:40most
- 13:40mellow,
- 13:41like,
- 13:41chilled
- 13:42out,
- 13:42kind,
- 13:42just
- 13:43relaxed.
- 13:44And
- 13:44I'll
- 13:44never
- 13:45forget
- 13:45it.
- 13:45And
- 13:46that
- 13:46very
- 13:46next
- 13:46morning,
- 13:47I
- 13:47went
- 13:47to
- 13:47this
- 13:47Al
- 13:48Anon
- 13:48meeting
- 13:48or
- 13:48day
- 13:49after
- 13:49school
- 13:49after
- 13:50I'd
- 13:50watched
- 13:50my
- 13:50mother
- 13:51burn
- 13:51cigarettes
- 13:51on
- 13:52my
- 13:52father
- 13:52trying
- 13:52to
- 13:53get
- 13:53him
- 13:53to
- 13:53hit
- 13:53her.
- 13:53And
- 13:54my
- 13:54dad's
- 13:54like,
- 13:55not
- 13:55going
- 13:55to
- 13:55do
- 13:55it.
- 13:56But
- 13:57at
- 13:57that
- 13:57stage
- 13:58in
- 13:58my
- 13:58life,
- 13:58I
- 13:59regret
- 13:59that
- 13:59it
- 13:59was
- 13:59that
- 14:00meeting
- 14:00because
- 14:01I
- 14:01didn't
- 14:01Understand
- 14:01empathy.
- 14:02I
- 14:02didn't
- 14:02understand
- 14:03putting
- 14:04yourself
- 14:04in
- 14:04someone's
- 14:05shoes.
- 14:05I
- 14:05didn't
- 14:06understand,
- 14:06like
- 14:06you
- 14:06said,
- 14:07that
- 14:07it
- 14:07was
- 14:07a
- 14:07disease
- 14:08and
- 14:08that
- 14:09it
- 14:09wasn't
- 14:10her
- 14:10just
- 14:10being
- 14:11this
- 14:11nasty,
- 14:11mean
- 14:12person.
- 14:12It
- 14:12was
- 14:13the
- 14:13alcohol
- 14:13doing
- 14:14it
- 14:14to
- 14:14her.
- 14:15So
- 14:15I
- 14:15walked
- 14:16away
- 14:16from
- 14:16Alotine
- 14:17for
- 14:1815
- 14:19years,
- 14:1911
- 14:20years,
- 14:20something
- 14:20like
- 14:20that.
- 14:21And
- 14:22it
- 14:22took
- 14:22me
- 14:23getting
- 14:23back,
- 14:23and
- 14:24I
- 14:24wish
- 14:24I
- 14:24hadn't
- 14:25gone
- 14:25to
- 14:25that
- 14:25one
- 14:25meeting
- 14:25because
- 14:26now
- 14:26I
- 14:27don't
- 14:27have
- 14:27hard
- 14:27feelings.
- 14:28My.
- 14:28My
- 14:28parents
- 14:29have
- 14:29both
- 14:29passed,
- 14:29but
- 14:30there
- 14:30is
- 14:30no
- 14:30hard
- 14:30feelings
- 14:31there.
- 14:31There's
- 14:32only
- 14:32compassion
- 14:33and
- 14:33there's
- 14:34empathy
- 14:34for
- 14:34anybody
- 14:35that
- 14:35is
- 14:35going
- 14:35through
- 14:36that
- 14:36situation.
- 14:37So,
- 14:38you
- 14:39know,
- 14:39it
- 14:39takes
- 14:39work
- 14:40when
- 14:40relationships
- 14:41are
- 14:41broken
- 14:42like
- 14:42that.
- 14:42It
- 14:42takes
- 14:43a
- 14:43lot
- 14:43of
- 14:43work.
- 14:43But
- 14:44I
- 14:44love
- 14:44that
- 14:44you're
- 14:44hopeful
- 14:45and
- 14:45you
- 14:45can
- 14:46share
- 14:46that,
- 14:46that
- 14:46it's.
- 14:47It's
- 14:47mendable.
- 14:48Those
- 14:48relationships
- 14:48are
- 14:49absolutely
- 14:49mendable.
- 14:51Yes.
- 14:51And,
- 14:52you
- 14:52know,
- 14:52and
- 14:52when
- 14:52you're
- 14:52actively.
- 14:53When
- 14:53you're
- 14:53living
- 14:54with
- 14:54an
- 14:54active
- 14:54alcoholic,
- 14:56it's
- 14:56very
- 14:57difficult
- 14:57to
- 14:58have
- 14:58empathy
- 14:59because
- 14:59you're,
- 15:00You're.
- 15:00You're
- 15:01just
- 15:01in
- 15:01such
- 15:01a
- 15:02unhealthy,
- 15:03likely
- 15:04destructive
- 15:04environment
- 15:05that
- 15:05you
- 15:05can't
- 15:06think
- 15:06clearly.
- 15:06You're
- 15:07not.
- 15:07Your
- 15:08basic
- 15:08needs
- 15:08are
- 15:09not
- 15:09being
- 15:09met.
- 15:09It's
- 15:10very
- 15:10hard
- 15:10to.
- 15:11To
- 15:11separate
- 15:12this
- 15:13horrible
- 15:14person
- 15:14as
- 15:15they
- 15:15are
- 15:15when
- 15:15they're
- 15:15drinking
- 15:16from
- 15:17the
- 15:17human
- 15:17being
- 15:18underneath
- 15:18all
- 15:19of
- 15:19that.
- 15:19And
- 15:20as
- 15:20a
- 15:20teenager,
- 15:21I
- 15:21got
- 15:22very
- 15:22resentful
- 15:23because
- 15:23I
- 15:24didn't
- 15:24understand
- 15:24what
- 15:24was
- 15:25going
- 15:25on.
- 15:25I.
- 15:26I
- 15:26thought
- 15:26that
- 15:27every
- 15:27day
- 15:27my
- 15:27mother
- 15:27was
- 15:28making
- 15:28a
- 15:28decision,
- 15:29and,
- 15:30you
- 15:30know,
- 15:30I
- 15:30was
- 15:31crying,
- 15:32I
- 15:32was
- 15:33begging,
- 15:33I
- 15:33was
- 15:34writing
- 15:34letters,
- 15:35I
- 15:35was
- 15:35calling
- 15:36her
- 15:37siblings
- 15:37and
- 15:38trying,
- 15:38doing
- 15:38everything
- 15:39I
- 15:39could
- 15:39possibly
- 15:40think
- 15:40to
- 15:40do
- 15:40as
- 15:40a
- 15:40young
- 15:41person.
- 15:42And
- 15:42I
- 15:42just
- 15:42simply
- 15:43didn't
- 15:43understand
- 15:44that
- 15:44I
- 15:44could
- 15:44not
- 15:45control
- 15:45it.
- 15:45And
- 15:46it
- 15:46wasn't
- 15:46my
- 15:46job.
- 15:47My
- 15:48job
- 15:48was
- 15:48to
- 15:48be
- 15:49a
- 15:49kid,
- 15:49to
- 15:49be
- 15:49a
- 15:49young
- 15:50person
- 15:50and
- 15:50take
- 15:50good
- 15:51care
- 15:51of
- 15:51me.
- 15:51But
- 15:51I
- 15:52didn't
- 15:52have
- 15:52any
- 15:52of
- 15:53this
- 15:53education
- 15:53or
- 15:53this
- 15:54knowledge.
- 15:54And
- 15:55like
- 15:55your
- 15:56father.
- 15:56My
- 15:56father
- 15:57was.
- 15:57My
- 15:57father
- 15:58was
- 15:58not
- 15:58an
- 15:58alcoholic,
- 15:59but
- 15:59he
- 15:59was
- 15:59a
- 15:59very
- 16:00deeply
- 16:01embedded
- 16:01codependent,
- 16:02and
- 16:03he
- 16:04felt
- 16:04very
- 16:05strongly
- 16:06that
- 16:06my
- 16:06mother
- 16:07just
- 16:07needed
- 16:08everyone
- 16:08to
- 16:08take
- 16:09care
- 16:09of
- 16:09things
- 16:09for
- 16:09her.
- 16:10Now,
- 16:10as
- 16:11we
- 16:11know,
- 16:11we
- 16:12were
- 16:12completely
- 16:13enabling
- 16:14her.
- 16:14Right.
- 16:15And
- 16:15looking
- 16:16back,
- 16:17I
- 16:17thought
- 16:18I
- 16:18was
- 16:18doing
- 16:18the
- 16:18right
- 16:19thing,
- 16:19you
- 16:19know,
- 16:20by,
- 16:20you
- 16:21know,
- 16:21keeping
- 16:21everything
- 16:22a
- 16:22secret,
- 16:23cleaning
- 16:24up
- 16:24the
- 16:24messes,
- 16:25figuratively
- 16:26and
- 16:26literally,
- 16:26you
- 16:27know,
- 16:27keeping
- 16:27everything
- 16:27together,
- 16:28not
- 16:28telling
- 16:28anyone,
- 16:29taking
- 16:29care
- 16:30of
- 16:30myself,
- 16:31taking
- 16:31care
- 16:31of
- 16:31my
- 16:32younger
- 16:32sister.
- 16:33You
- 16:33know,
- 16:33I
- 16:33became
- 16:34absolutely
- 16:35the
- 16:35mother
- 16:36in
- 16:36the
- 16:36whole
- 16:36household.
- 16:37So
- 16:38I
- 16:38was
- 16:38the
- 16:38mother
- 16:39figure,
- 16:39the
- 16:39reliable,
- 16:40dependent
- 16:40one
- 16:40for
- 16:41my
- 16:41sister.
- 16:41And
- 16:42my
- 16:43mother
- 16:43had
- 16:43no
- 16:43reason
- 16:44to
- 16:44change
- 16:45because
- 16:46I
- 16:46had
- 16:46Taken
- 16:46over
- 16:47all
- 16:48of
- 16:48her
- 16:48responsibilities.
- 16:49And.
- 16:50And.
- 16:51And
- 16:51I
- 16:51deeply
- 16:52regret
- 16:52that
- 16:53because
- 16:53I.
- 16:53I
- 16:54took
- 16:54that
- 16:54purpose
- 16:55from
- 16:55her
- 16:56unknowingly.
- 16:57I
- 16:57thought
- 16:57I
- 16:57was
- 16:57doing
- 16:57the
- 16:58right
- 16:58thing,
- 16:58being
- 16:59the
- 17:00good
- 17:00older
- 17:00daughter.
- 17:02And
- 17:03now
- 17:03I
- 17:03know
- 17:03through
- 17:03education
- 17:04that
- 17:05I
- 17:05was
- 17:05really
- 17:05preventing
- 17:06her
- 17:06from
- 17:06realizing
- 17:07the
- 17:07help
- 17:08that
- 17:08she
- 17:08needed
- 17:08to
- 17:08get.
- 17:09Unfortunately,
- 17:10she
- 17:11did
- 17:11not
- 17:12ever
- 17:12really
- 17:12accept
- 17:13the
- 17:13help,
- 17:14but
- 17:14I
- 17:14never
- 17:15gave
- 17:15her
- 17:15the
- 17:15chance
- 17:16during
- 17:16those
- 17:16years
- 17:17to
- 17:17do
- 17:17so.
- 17:18Right.
- 17:18And,
- 17:19you
- 17:19know,
- 17:19I
- 17:20also
- 17:20don't
- 17:20like
- 17:20the.
- 17:21I
- 17:21don't
- 17:21like
- 17:21when
- 17:22people
- 17:22say,
- 17:22well,
- 17:22we
- 17:22got
- 17:22to
- 17:23let
- 17:23them
- 17:23hit
- 17:23rock
- 17:23bottom.
- 17:24You
- 17:24know,
- 17:24you
- 17:24can
- 17:25still
- 17:25be
- 17:25compassionate
- 17:26and
- 17:26you
- 17:26can
- 17:26still
- 17:26try
- 17:27to
- 17:27do
- 17:27those
- 17:27things,
- 17:27but,
- 17:28yeah,
- 17:28it's.
- 17:29It's
- 17:29heart
- 17:30wrenching
- 17:30watching
- 17:31someone
- 17:31that
- 17:32you
- 17:32love
- 17:33hit
- 17:33rock
- 17:34bottom,
- 17:34whether
- 17:35it's
- 17:35a
- 17:35spouse
- 17:35or
- 17:36a
- 17:36child
- 17:36or,
- 17:37you
- 17:37know,
- 17:37an
- 17:37aunt
- 17:37and
- 17:38whoever
- 17:38it
- 17:38is,
- 17:39to
- 17:39let
- 17:40that.
- 17:40You
- 17:40want
- 17:40to
- 17:40help
- 17:40them.
- 17:41You
- 17:41want
- 17:41to.
- 17:41And
- 17:41I
- 17:42know
- 17:42we
- 17:42talk.
- 17:42You've
- 17:43probably
- 17:43done
- 17:43blog
- 17:44posts
- 17:44on
- 17:44is
- 17:44it
- 17:44enabling
- 17:45or
- 17:45is
- 17:45it
- 17:46helping?
- 17:47You
- 17:47know,
- 17:47like,
- 17:47there's
- 17:48a
- 17:48big
- 17:48difference
- 17:48between
- 17:48helping
- 17:49someone
- 17:49and
- 17:50being
- 17:50kind
- 17:50and
- 17:51enabling
- 17:51them
- 17:52to
- 17:52carry
- 17:53on
- 17:53their
- 17:53addiction.
- 17:54I
- 17:54mean,
- 17:54it's
- 17:55definitely
- 17:55a
- 17:56fine
- 17:56line,
- 17:57but
- 17:57it's
- 17:57good.
- 17:58Again,
- 17:58that's
- 17:58why
- 17:58you're
- 17:58out
- 17:59here
- 17:59to
- 17:59tell
- 17:59people.
- 18:00And
- 18:02do
- 18:02you
- 18:03think
- 18:03that
- 18:03she
- 18:04knew?
- 18:04Like,
- 18:05did
- 18:05you
- 18:05have
- 18:05any
- 18:06conversations
- 18:06when
- 18:07she
- 18:07was
- 18:08actively
- 18:09drinking
- 18:09about
- 18:10the
- 18:10drinking?
- 18:10Like,
- 18:11was
- 18:11it
- 18:11ever
- 18:11discussed?
- 18:12Oh,
- 18:12yes,
- 18:13yes,
- 18:14yes.
- 18:14Between
- 18:15the
- 18:15two
- 18:15of
- 18:15us.
- 18:15It
- 18:16started
- 18:16when
- 18:16I
- 18:16was
- 18:16about
- 18:1712,
- 18:18you
- 18:18know,
- 18:18me
- 18:19having
- 18:19the
- 18:19frank
- 18:20conversations
- 18:21with
- 18:21her
- 18:21about
- 18:21how
- 18:22it
- 18:22made
- 18:22me
- 18:22feel,
- 18:23feel.
- 18:23And,
- 18:24you
- 18:25know,
- 18:25she
- 18:25came
- 18:25from
- 18:26an
- 18:26alcoholic
- 18:27household
- 18:29when
- 18:30she
- 18:30was
- 18:3011
- 18:30years
- 18:30old.
- 18:31A
- 18:31lot.
- 18:31A
- 18:31lot
- 18:31of
- 18:32dysfunction,
- 18:32a
- 18:32lot
- 18:32of
- 18:33unresolved
- 18:33trauma.
- 18:34I
- 18:34didn't
- 18:34know
- 18:34that
- 18:35at
- 18:35the
- 18:35time.
- 18:35I
- 18:36had
- 18:36no
- 18:36idea
- 18:36as
- 18:37a
- 18:37child.
- 18:37So
- 18:38she
- 18:39never
- 18:39opened
- 18:39up
- 18:39about
- 18:40any
- 18:40of
- 18:40that.
- 18:40She
- 18:41just
- 18:41always
- 18:42dismissed
- 18:43the
- 18:43drinking
- 18:43as
- 18:43something
- 18:44I
- 18:44didn't
- 18:44need
- 18:44to
- 18:44worry
- 18:45about,
- 18:45that
- 18:45it
- 18:45was
- 18:45just
- 18:46something
- 18:46she
- 18:47had
- 18:47to
- 18:47do.
- 18:48And.
- 18:49And
- 18:50the
- 18:50conversations
- 18:51really
- 18:51went
- 18:51nowhere.
- 18:52We
- 18:52repeated
- 18:52the
- 18:52same
- 18:53conversation
- 18:53over
- 18:53and
- 18:54over
- 18:54again
- 18:54for
- 18:55several
- 18:55years.
- 18:56You
- 18:56know,
- 18:56even,
- 18:56you
- 18:57know,
- 18:57as
- 18:57I
- 18:57became
- 18:58a
- 18:58young
- 18:58adult,
- 18:59I
- 18:59was.
- 18:59I
- 19:00was
- 19:00so
- 19:00certain
- 19:01that
- 19:01I
- 19:01could
- 19:01one
- 19:02day
- 19:03say
- 19:03the
- 19:03right
- 19:03thing
- 19:04or
- 19:04she
- 19:05would
- 19:05reach
- 19:05a
- 19:05point
- 19:05where
- 19:06she
- 19:06was
- 19:06just
- 19:06tired
- 19:06of
- 19:07it,
- 19:07of
- 19:07tired
- 19:07of
- 19:08that
- 19:08life
- 19:08and
- 19:09miraculously
- 19:10decide
- 19:10to
- 19:10get
- 19:10help
- 19:11or
- 19:11just
- 19:12cold
- 19:12turkey,
- 19:13stop
- 19:13drinking.
- 19:13I
- 19:13had
- 19:14that,
- 19:14you
- 19:14know,
- 19:15hope,
- 19:16too.
- 19:16And
- 19:17my
- 19:17father
- 19:17had
- 19:17this
- 19:18rosy
- 19:19outlook
- 19:19on
- 19:20life.
- 19:20That
- 19:20was
- 19:20his
- 19:20personality,
- 19:21which
- 19:21was
- 19:21a
- 19:22wonderful
- 19:22trait
- 19:22to
- 19:22have,
- 19:23except
- 19:24when
- 19:24it
- 19:24came
- 19:24to
- 19:24my
- 19:25mother,
- 19:25because
- 19:26he
- 19:26would
- 19:26always
- 19:26say,
- 19:27things
- 19:27just
- 19:28have
- 19:28a
- 19:28way
- 19:28of
- 19:28working
- 19:29out.
- 19:29And
- 19:30he
- 19:30just
- 19:30believed
- 19:31that
- 19:31we
- 19:31just
- 19:32got
- 19:32through
- 19:32that
- 19:32period,
- 19:33she
- 19:33was
- 19:33going
- 19:33through
- 19:33a
- 19:33rough
- 19:34patch.
- 19:35We
- 19:35would
- 19:36turn
- 19:36out
- 19:36okay
- 19:36on
- 19:37the
- 19:37other
- 19:37side.
- 19:37Well,
- 19:38the
- 19:38rough
- 19:38patches
- 19:38went
- 19:39on
- 19:39for
- 19:39years,
- 19:40and
- 19:40he
- 19:40didn't
- 19:41have
- 19:41the
- 19:41education
- 19:41or
- 19:42the
- 19:42knowledge
- 19:43to
- 19:43know
- 19:43what
- 19:43to
- 19:43do,
- 19:44so
- 19:44he
- 19:44just
- 19:44kind
- 19:44of
- 19:44did
- 19:44the
- 19:45best
- 19:45that
- 19:45he
- 19:45could.
- 19:46And
- 19:47unfortunately,
- 19:47he
- 19:48passed
- 19:48away
- 19:48just
- 19:49as
- 19:49I
- 19:49was
- 19:49really
- 19:50getting
- 19:51wisdom
- 19:52on
- 19:52this
- 19:52topic.
- 19:53And.
- 19:54And
- 19:54I
- 19:54often
- 19:55wonder
- 19:55if
- 19:55he
- 19:55had
- 19:55passed
- 19:56away,
- 19:56you
- 19:56know,
- 19:56how
- 19:56we
- 19:57could.
- 19:57How
- 19:57I
- 19:57could
- 19:57have
- 19:57helped
- 19:58him
- 19:58learn
- 19:59and,
- 19:59you
- 19:59know,
- 20:00deal
- 20:00with
- 20:00it.
- 20:00But
- 20:01the
- 20:01good
- 20:01news
- 20:01is
- 20:02my
- 20:02sister
- 20:02and
- 20:02I,
- 20:03you
- 20:03know,
- 20:03we
- 20:03have
- 20:04the.
- 20:04The
- 20:04wisdom.
- 20:05We're
- 20:05stopping
- 20:06the
- 20:06cycle
- 20:06in
- 20:07our
- 20:07family.
- 20:08And.
- 20:08And
- 20:09we've,
- 20:09you
- 20:10know,
- 20:10have.
- 20:11We're
- 20:11focused
- 20:11on
- 20:11ourselves.
- 20:13Perfect.
- 20:14I
- 20:14mean,
- 20:14that's
- 20:14all
- 20:14you
- 20:14can
- 20:15do.
- 20:15And,
- 20:16you
- 20:16know,
- 20:16I
- 20:16say
- 20:16I
- 20:16go
- 20:17back
- 20:17to
- 20:17all
- 20:17these
- 20:17cliches,
- 20:18you
- 20:18know,
- 20:18I
- 20:18don't
- 20:19know
- 20:19how
- 20:19many
- 20:19times
- 20:19I
- 20:19heard
- 20:20my
- 20:20mother
- 20:20say,
- 20:21I
- 20:21don't
- 20:21know
- 20:21why
- 20:21you
- 20:21guys
- 20:22keep
- 20:22bothering
- 20:22me
- 20:22about
- 20:23this.
- 20:23I'm
- 20:23only
- 20:23hurting
- 20:23myself.
- 20:25And
- 20:26if
- 20:26she'll.
- 20:27And
- 20:27she
- 20:27was
- 20:27a
- 20:27child
- 20:28psychiatrist.
- 20:30Wow.
- 20:31So
- 20:31I
- 20:31feel
- 20:32like
- 20:32there
- 20:32had
- 20:33to
- 20:33be
- 20:33some
- 20:33knowledge
- 20:34of
- 20:34what
- 20:34was
- 20:34going
- 20:35on.
- 20:35I
- 20:35mean,
- 20:35she
- 20:35was
- 20:35a
- 20:36doctor.
- 20:36Like,
- 20:37she
- 20:37had
- 20:37to
- 20:37know.
- 20:38But,
- 20:39you
- 20:39know,
- 20:40again,
- 20:40her.
- 20:41She
- 20:41was
- 20:42troubled
- 20:42her
- 20:42whole
- 20:43life.
- 20:43It
- 20:43was
- 20:43a
- 20:43coping
- 20:44mechanism.
- 20:44That's
- 20:44how
- 20:45it
- 20:45started.
- 20:46She
- 20:46was
- 20:46anorexic
- 20:47at
- 20:4713.
- 20:48Her
- 20:48father
- 20:48sent
- 20:48her
- 20:48to
- 20:49boarding
- 20:49school
- 20:49for
- 20:49four
- 20:50years.
- 20:50Never
- 20:50even
- 20:50saw
- 20:51her.
- 20:51Just.
- 20:52And
- 20:52he
- 20:52was
- 20:52a
- 20:52child.
- 20:52He
- 20:52was
- 20:53a
- 20:53psychiatrist,
- 20:54so
- 20:54it
- 20:55was
- 20:55like
- 20:55just
- 20:56boom,
- 20:56boom,
- 20:56boom.
- 20:56So
- 20:57you
- 20:57talk
- 20:57about
- 20:57generational,
- 20:58but,
- 20:58yes,
- 20:59it's
- 20:59good
- 20:59that,
- 21:00you
- 21:00know,
- 21:00somebody
- 21:01stand
- 21:01up.
- 21:01That's
- 21:01what
- 21:01I
- 21:01tell
- 21:02my
- 21:02kids,
- 21:02and
- 21:02I
- 21:03even
- 21:03tell
- 21:03my
- 21:03kids,
- 21:03and
- 21:03I'm
- 21:04very
- 21:04honest
- 21:04with
- 21:04them,
- 21:04is
- 21:05that
- 21:05even
- 21:06if
- 21:06I
- 21:06had
- 21:06never
- 21:06picked
- 21:07up
- 21:07a
- 21:07drink,
- 21:07you
- 21:08are
- 21:08acquiring
- 21:09all
- 21:09the
- 21:09traits
- 21:09of
- 21:10having
- 21:10lived
- 21:10with
- 21:10an
- 21:10alcoholic.
- 21:11Because
- 21:12I
- 21:12was
- 21:12at
- 21:12the
- 21:12beginning
- 21:13of
- 21:13my
- 21:13learning
- 21:13stage.
- 21:14You
- 21:14know,
- 21:14if
- 21:15I
- 21:15knew
- 21:15now
- 21:15what
- 21:16I
- 21:16knew
- 21:1620
- 21:16years
- 21:17ago
- 21:17when
- 21:17my
- 21:17children
- 21:17were
- 21:18born.
- 21:19Totally
- 21:20different
- 21:20ballgame.
- 21:21But
- 21:21you
- 21:21can't
- 21:21beat
- 21:22yourself
- 21:22up
- 21:22about
- 21:22that.
- 21:22All
- 21:23you
- 21:23can
- 21:23do
- 21:23is
- 21:23move
- 21:23forward.
- 21:24Absolutely.
- 21:25Yes.
- 21:26And
- 21:26as.
- 21:26As
- 21:27we
- 21:27chatted
- 21:27about
- 21:28earlier,
- 21:28you
- 21:28know,
- 21:28this
- 21:28is
- 21:29really
- 21:29a
- 21:29lifelong
- 21:30journey.
- 21:30And,
- 21:31you
- 21:31know,
- 21:32when
- 21:32I
- 21:32started
- 21:32it,
- 21:33I
- 21:33thought,
- 21:33well,
- 21:34you
- 21:34know,
- 21:34at
- 21:35some
- 21:35point
- 21:35here,
- 21:35I
- 21:36will
- 21:36reach.
- 21:37I
- 21:37will
- 21:37reach
- 21:38full
- 21:38knowledge
- 21:38of
- 21:38this
- 21:39topic.
- 21:39I
- 21:39will.
- 21:40I
- 21:40will
- 21:40be
- 21:41happy.
- 21:41I
- 21:42will
- 21:42have
- 21:42everything
- 21:42I
- 21:43need
- 21:43to
- 21:43have.
- 21:44And
- 21:44I
- 21:45know
- 21:45now
- 21:45that
- 21:47it's
- 21:47a
- 21:47journey
- 21:48of
- 21:48continual
- 21:48learning.
- 21:49So,
- 21:49you
- 21:49know,
- 21:50five
- 21:50years
- 21:50ago,
- 21:50I
- 21:51thought
- 21:51I
- 21:51really
- 21:51had
- 21:52great
- 21:52wisdom.
- 21:53And
- 21:53now,
- 21:53five
- 21:54years
- 21:54later,
- 21:54there's
- 21:54so
- 21:54much
- 21:55more
- 21:55that
- 21:56I
- 21:56recognize
- 21:56that
- 21:57I
- 21:57have
- 21:57opportunity
- 21:57to
- 21:58learn
- 21:58and
- 21:58grow.
- 21:59And
- 21:59it's
- 21:59very
- 22:00exciting
- 22:01because
- 22:02I
- 22:02am
- 22:03at
- 22:03a
- 22:03point
- 22:03that
- 22:03I
- 22:04never
- 22:04thought
- 22:04that
- 22:04I
- 22:04could
- 22:04be
- 22:05at.
- 22:05Yeah,
- 22:05I
- 22:05thought
- 22:05that
- 22:06I
- 22:06was.
- 22:07I
- 22:07was
- 22:07dealt
- 22:07very
- 22:08bad
- 22:08cards
- 22:08in
- 22:09life
- 22:09that
- 22:09I
- 22:09would
- 22:10always
- 22:10be
- 22:10burdened
- 22:11with
- 22:11being
- 22:12in
- 22:12the
- 22:12middle
- 22:12of
- 22:13the
- 22:13chaos,
- 22:14taking
- 22:14care
- 22:14of
- 22:14my
- 22:15parents
- 22:15on
- 22:15every
- 22:16level,
- 22:16financially,
- 22:17emotionally.
- 22:19Just
- 22:20so
- 22:20much
- 22:20responsibility
- 22:21that
- 22:21I
- 22:22thought
- 22:22I
- 22:22had
- 22:22to
- 22:23bear
- 22:23for
- 22:24the
- 22:24rest
- 22:24of
- 22:24my
- 22:24life.
- 22:24It
- 22:25was
- 22:25overwhelming.
- 22:26You
- 22:26can
- 22:26imagine
- 22:27why
- 22:27I
- 22:27was.
- 22:27I
- 22:27felt
- 22:28so
- 22:28depressed
- 22:28at
- 22:2826.
- 22:30And
- 22:31now
- 22:31being
- 22:32through
- 22:32this
- 22:32whole
- 22:32process
- 22:33of
- 22:33healing,
- 22:33it.
- 22:34It's
- 22:34so
- 22:35exciting.
- 22:35I
- 22:35wish
- 22:35I
- 22:35could
- 22:35go
- 22:36back
- 22:36in
- 22:36time
- 22:36and
- 22:37kind
- 22:37of
- 22:37whisper
- 22:37in
- 22:38teenager
- 22:39me's
- 22:40ear
- 22:40and
- 22:41say,
- 22:41this
- 22:41is
- 22:42what
- 22:42life
- 22:42is
- 22:42going
- 22:42to
- 22:42be
- 22:43like
- 22:43in
- 22:43the
- 22:43future.
- 22:43You
- 22:44believe
- 22:44that
- 22:44you'll
- 22:44get
- 22:45there
- 22:45and
- 22:45you
- 22:45will.
- 22:46And.
- 22:47And
- 22:47there
- 22:47are
- 22:48just
- 22:48millions
- 22:48of
- 22:49people
- 22:49who
- 22:49have
- 22:49lived
- 22:50this.
- 22:50And
- 22:51you
- 22:51listen
- 22:52to
- 22:52the
- 22:52stories.
- 22:53They're
- 22:53all
- 22:53variations
- 22:54of
- 22:54the
- 22:54same
- 22:55story.
- 22:55Absolutely.
- 22:56And
- 22:56you
- 22:56think,
- 22:56how
- 22:57did
- 22:57they.
- 22:57How
- 22:57did
- 22:57they
- 22:57get
- 22:58through
- 22:58that
- 22:59and.
- 23:00And
- 23:00come
- 23:00out,
- 23:01you
- 23:01know,
- 23:01so
- 23:01fulfilled
- 23:02and,
- 23:03you
- 23:03know,
- 23:03having
- 23:03a
- 23:04life
- 23:04they
- 23:04love
- 23:04and
- 23:05it's
- 23:05because
- 23:05they
- 23:05put
- 23:06in
- 23:06the
- 23:06time
- 23:07to
- 23:07heal.
- 23:08Yes.
- 23:08So
- 23:08much
- 23:09as
- 23:09possible.
- 23:10Now,
- 23:10what
- 23:10do
- 23:10you.
- 23:11What
- 23:11would
- 23:11you
- 23:11attribute
- 23:12your
- 23:12best?
- 23:12Like,
- 23:13I
- 23:13know
- 23:13you
- 23:13went
- 23:13to
- 23:13therapy.
- 23:14Is
- 23:14that
- 23:14what
- 23:14you
- 23:15would
- 23:15say
- 23:15did
- 23:15the
- 23:15most
- 23:16healing
- 23:16for
- 23:16you
- 23:17was
- 23:17the
- 23:17therapy?
- 23:19No,
- 23:20actually
- 23:20it
- 23:20was
- 23:20the
- 23:20Al
- 23:21Anon
- 23:21meetings.
- 23:22I
- 23:22mean,
- 23:22therapy
- 23:23had
- 23:23to
- 23:23happen.
- 23:24It
- 23:24was
- 23:24absolutely
- 23:25critical
- 23:26step,
- 23:27but
- 23:27it
- 23:27was.
- 23:27It
- 23:28was
- 23:28the
- 23:28realization
- 23:29that
- 23:30I
- 23:31had
- 23:31a
- 23:31completely
- 23:31normal
- 23:32reaction
- 23:33because
- 23:33all
- 23:34the
- 23:34while
- 23:35the
- 23:35anxiety
- 23:36that
- 23:36I
- 23:36felt,
- 23:37issues
- 23:38that
- 23:38I
- 23:38had
- 23:38picked
- 23:39up
- 23:39along
- 23:39the
- 23:39way
- 23:39with
- 23:41my
- 23:41relationships,
- 23:42how
- 23:42I
- 23:43worked,
- 23:44everything
- 23:44was
- 23:45attributed
- 23:46to
- 23:46my
- 23:47experiences
- 23:47with
- 23:48my
- 23:48mother.
- 23:49And
- 23:49being
- 23:50in
- 23:50those
- 23:50meetings
- 23:51really
- 23:51kind
- 23:51of
- 23:51opened
- 23:52my
- 23:52eyes
- 23:52that
- 23:52this
- 23:53is.
- 23:53Other
- 23:53people
- 23:53are
- 23:53feeling
- 23:54this
- 23:54way
- 23:54too.
- 23:55You're
- 23:55normal.
- 23:56And
- 23:57now
- 23:57you
- 23:57just
- 23:57have
- 23:57to
- 23:58figure
- 23:58out
- 23:58how
- 23:58to
- 23:59sort
- 23:59of
- 23:59unprogram
- 24:00your
- 24:01thinking.
- 24:01And
- 24:02I
- 24:02did
- 24:02a
- 24:03lot
- 24:03of
- 24:03that.
- 24:03It's
- 24:03still
- 24:04there.
- 24:04It
- 24:04still
- 24:05comes
- 24:05back,
- 24:05of
- 24:06course.
- 24:07But
- 24:07that's
- 24:07why
- 24:08the
- 24:08learning
- 24:08is
- 24:09always
- 24:09good.
- 24:09And,
- 24:09you
- 24:09know,
- 24:10staying
- 24:10connected
- 24:10with
- 24:11people
- 24:11and
- 24:11having
- 24:12the
- 24:12conversations,
- 24:13always
- 24:13a
- 24:13reminder
- 24:14of
- 24:15the
- 24:15healthy
- 24:16thinking.
- 24:16And
- 24:16when
- 24:17you
- 24:17start
- 24:17to
- 24:17slip
- 24:17back
- 24:18into
- 24:18the
- 24:18unhealthy
- 24:19thinking,
- 24:20it's
- 24:20the.
- 24:20It's
- 24:21the
- 24:21voices
- 24:21and
- 24:22the
- 24:22stories
- 24:22around
- 24:23you
- 24:23that.
- 24:24That
- 24:24remind
- 24:24and
- 24:24get
- 24:25you
- 24:25right
- 24:25back
- 24:25on
- 24:25the
- 24:26right
- 24:26path.
- 24:27Right.
- 24:27And
- 24:28I
- 24:28love
- 24:28that
- 24:28you
- 24:28made
- 24:28the
- 24:28comment
- 24:29that
- 24:29you
- 24:29said
- 24:29you
- 24:29had
- 24:29to
- 24:29go
- 24:30back
- 24:30and
- 24:30like,
- 24:31you
- 24:31wanted
- 24:31to
- 24:31go
- 24:31back
- 24:31and
- 24:31talk
- 24:32to
- 24:32that
- 24:32teenage
- 24:33teenager
- 24:33and
- 24:33whisper
- 24:34in
- 24:34their
- 24:34ear
- 24:34and
- 24:34say,
- 24:35this
- 24:35is
- 24:35what
- 24:35it
- 24:35can
- 24:35be
- 24:35like.
- 24:36This
- 24:36is
- 24:36what
- 24:36it's
- 24:36going
- 24:36to
- 24:36look
- 24:37like.
- 24:37But
- 24:37you
- 24:38also
- 24:38made
- 24:38a
- 24:38reference
- 24:39to
- 24:39comment
- 24:39earlier
- 24:40that
- 24:40you
- 24:40had
- 24:40clearly
- 24:41done
- 24:41some
- 24:41inner
- 24:42child
- 24:42work
- 24:42like
- 24:43you
- 24:43were
- 24:43going
- 24:43back
- 24:44and,
- 24:44and
- 24:44being
- 24:45that
- 24:45young
- 24:45child
- 24:46again.
- 24:46And
- 24:46I
- 24:46think
- 24:47that
- 24:47is
- 24:47so
- 24:48vitally
- 24:48important
- 24:49for
- 24:49people
- 24:49listening.
- 24:50That
- 24:51is
- 24:51you
- 24:52learn
- 24:52to
- 24:52be
- 24:52a
- 24:52kid
- 24:52again,
- 24:53you
- 24:53know,
- 24:53re
- 24:54parent
- 24:55yourself
- 24:55like
- 24:56that
- 24:56little
- 24:56child
- 24:56that
- 24:57didn't
- 24:57get
- 24:57that
- 24:57love.
- 24:57I
- 24:58mean
- 24:58I
- 24:58still
- 24:58do
- 24:58it
- 24:58to
- 24:59this
- 24:59day
- 24:59when
- 24:59I'm
- 24:59like
- 25:00sad
- 25:00about
- 25:01something.
- 25:01I
- 25:01literally
- 25:01physically
- 25:02hug
- 25:02myself
- 25:03like,
- 25:03you
- 25:03got
- 25:03this
- 25:03girl,
- 25:04you're
- 25:04okay,
- 25:05you're
- 25:05safe.
- 25:05You
- 25:05know,
- 25:05I
- 25:06mean
- 25:06it
- 25:06is
- 25:07all
- 25:07those
- 25:08that,
- 25:09it's
- 25:09the
- 25:10child
- 25:10that,
- 25:10that
- 25:11runs
- 25:11your
- 25:12life.
- 25:12That
- 25:12inner
- 25:12child
- 25:13is
- 25:13like
- 25:13your
- 25:13subconscious
- 25:14mind
- 25:15and
- 25:15that
- 25:15is
- 25:15what
- 25:15is
- 25:15running
- 25:16your,
- 25:16it's
- 25:16not
- 25:16necessarily
- 25:17what's
- 25:17running
- 25:17your
- 25:17life,
- 25:18but
- 25:18it's
- 25:18what
- 25:18makes
- 25:18those
- 25:18split
- 25:19decisions.
- 25:20It's
- 25:21what
- 25:21makes
- 25:21you
- 25:21feel
- 25:21good
- 25:22or
- 25:22bad
- 25:22about
- 25:22yourself.
- 25:23It's
- 25:23what
- 25:23makes
- 25:24all
- 25:24of
- 25:24that
- 25:24stuff.
- 25:25So
- 25:25if
- 25:25you
- 25:25can
- 25:25go,
- 25:25the
- 25:25more
- 25:26you
- 25:26can
- 25:26go
- 25:26back
- 25:26and
- 25:26get
- 25:27in
- 25:27touch
- 25:27with
- 25:27that
- 25:28little
- 25:28Jody,
- 25:29the
- 25:30better,
- 25:30the
- 25:30better
- 25:31you're
- 25:31going
- 25:31to
- 25:31be.
- 25:32You
- 25:32are
- 25:32absolutely
- 25:33correct
- 25:34in
- 25:34that.
- 25:34And,
- 25:35and
- 25:35there
- 25:35the
- 25:36one,
- 25:36the
- 25:36most
- 25:36impactful
- 25:37therapist
- 25:37I
- 25:38had,
- 25:38he
- 25:38was
- 25:38the
- 25:38one
- 25:39I
- 25:39mentioned
- 25:39earlier
- 25:40about,
- 25:40who
- 25:40was
- 25:41an
- 25:41alcoholic
- 25:42in
- 25:42recovery
- 25:42himself.
- 25:43He
- 25:43had
- 25:43an
- 25:43alcoholic
- 25:44father.
- 25:45He
- 25:45challenged
- 25:46me
- 25:46to
- 25:46do
- 25:46a
- 25:47lot
- 25:47of
- 25:47that
- 25:47inner
- 25:47child
- 25:48work
- 25:48and
- 25:49I
- 25:49sort
- 25:49of
- 25:49laughed
- 25:49at
- 25:50him.
- 25:50It
- 25:50all
- 25:50seemed
- 25:51very
- 25:51corny
- 25:51to
- 25:51me
- 25:52and
- 25:52I
- 25:52thought,
- 25:53I
- 25:53don't,
- 25:53I
- 25:53don't
- 25:54need
- 25:54that.
- 25:54You
- 25:54know,
- 25:55I'm,
- 25:55I'm,
- 25:55I'm
- 25:56a
- 25:56strong,
- 25:56independent
- 25:57woman.
- 25:57I
- 25:58don't
- 25:58need
- 25:58to
- 25:58go
- 25:58back
- 25:59that
- 25:59far.
- 25:59And
- 26:00he
- 26:00said,
- 26:00just
- 26:00do
- 26:01me
- 26:01a
- 26:01favor
- 26:01and
- 26:02take
- 26:02a
- 26:02photo
- 26:03of
- 26:03yourself,
- 26:03maybe
- 26:04six
- 26:04or
- 26:04seven
- 26:04years
- 26:05old
- 26:05and
- 26:06post
- 26:06it
- 26:06somewhere
- 26:06in
- 26:06your
- 26:06house
- 26:07like
- 26:07on
- 26:07your
- 26:07refrigerator
- 26:08or
- 26:08your
- 26:08bathroom
- 26:09mirror
- 26:09or
- 26:09whatever.
- 26:10And
- 26:10I
- 26:10did
- 26:11it.
- 26:11And
- 26:12it,
- 26:12it
- 26:13absolutely
- 26:14shifted
- 26:15my
- 26:15view
- 26:16because
- 26:17I
- 26:17suddenly
- 26:17saw
- 26:18this
- 26:18innocent
- 26:18little
- 26:19kid,
- 26:19not
- 26:19as,
- 26:20as
- 26:20me
- 26:20as
- 26:20a
- 26:21seven
- 26:21year
- 26:21old,
- 26:21but
- 26:22this
- 26:22innocent
- 26:23kid.
- 26:23And,
- 26:24and
- 26:24I
- 26:24felt
- 26:25sad
- 26:25for
- 26:26her.
- 26:26I
- 26:26felt
- 26:26angry.
- 26:27Like
- 26:27this
- 26:28person,
- 26:28this
- 26:29young
- 26:29person
- 26:29was
- 26:29robbed
- 26:30and
- 26:31had
- 26:31to
- 26:31grow
- 26:31up
- 26:32way
- 26:32too
- 26:32fast.
- 26:33And
- 26:34in
- 26:34my
- 26:34next
- 26:35session
- 26:35after
- 26:35that,
- 26:36or
- 26:36I
- 26:36had
- 26:36that
- 26:37photo
- 26:37of
- 26:37myself
- 26:38taped
- 26:39up,
- 26:39he
- 26:40said,
- 26:40you
- 26:40know,
- 26:41how
- 26:41do
- 26:41you
- 26:41feel?
- 26:41And
- 26:42I
- 26:42said
- 26:43great.
- 26:43And
- 26:44it
- 26:44was
- 26:44the
- 26:44very
- 26:44first
- 26:45time
- 26:45that
- 26:45I
- 26:46had
- 26:46ever
- 26:46felt
- 26:46that
- 26:47emotion.
- 26:47Anger
- 26:48about
- 26:48everything.
- 26:49It
- 26:49had
- 26:49been
- 26:50sadness,
- 26:51sadness
- 26:52that
- 26:52my
- 26:52mother
- 26:53had
- 26:53had
- 26:53this
- 26:53issue,
- 26:54sadness
- 26:55that
- 26:55I
- 26:55experienced
- 26:56it,
- 26:56sadness
- 26:57that
- 26:57I
- 26:58failed
- 26:58to
- 26:59solve
- 26:59it
- 27:00like
- 27:00I
- 27:01wanted
- 27:01to
- 27:01my
- 27:01whole
- 27:02life.
- 27:02And
- 27:03I
- 27:03finally
- 27:03felt
- 27:04anger.
- 27:04And
- 27:05that
- 27:05emotion
- 27:06is
- 27:06what
- 27:07fueled
- 27:07me
- 27:07to
- 27:07start
- 27:08doing
- 27:08a
- 27:08lot
- 27:08more
- 27:09activities
- 27:09that
- 27:10I
- 27:10love
- 27:10to
- 27:10do.
- 27:11It
- 27:11really
- 27:11helped
- 27:12define
- 27:13my
- 27:13self
- 27:14care
- 27:14path
- 27:15and
- 27:15I
- 27:16started
- 27:16doing
- 27:16things
- 27:16I
- 27:17love
- 27:17to
- 27:17do,
- 27:17which
- 27:17opened
- 27:18up
- 27:18the
- 27:18door
- 27:18for
- 27:19new
- 27:19friend
- 27:19groups
- 27:20with
- 27:20people
- 27:20who
- 27:20had
- 27:21similar
- 27:21interests.
- 27:22And
- 27:23it
- 27:23really
- 27:23gave
- 27:24me
- 27:24a
- 27:24more
- 27:24fulfilled,
- 27:25joyful
- 27:26life.
- 27:27And
- 27:27it
- 27:27was
- 27:27all
- 27:27from
- 27:28that
- 27:28inner
- 27:29child
- 27:29work
- 27:29that
- 27:30started
- 27:30with
- 27:30the
- 27:30photo
- 27:31of
- 27:31myself
- 27:31on
- 27:31my
- 27:31bathroom
- 27:32mirror.
- 27:33You
- 27:34got
- 27:34it.
- 27:34I've
- 27:34done
- 27:35about,
- 27:35I
- 27:35would
- 27:35say,
- 27:35probably
- 27:36on
- 27:36and
- 27:36off,
- 27:36like
- 27:37six
- 27:37years.
- 27:37I
- 27:37mean,
- 27:38inner
- 27:38child
- 27:38work
- 27:39has
- 27:39just
- 27:39become
- 27:39a
- 27:39part
- 27:39of
- 27:40who
- 27:40I
- 27:40am,
- 27:40really.
- 27:41You
- 27:41know,
- 27:41I
- 27:41talk
- 27:41to
- 27:42that
- 27:42inner
- 27:42child.
- 27:42I.
- 27:43I
- 27:43acknowledge
- 27:44when
- 27:44something's
- 27:45going
- 27:45on,
- 27:45and
- 27:45I
- 27:45think,
- 27:46oh,
- 27:46that
- 27:46doesn't
- 27:46sound
- 27:46like
- 27:47me.
- 27:47Where'd
- 27:47that
- 27:47come
- 27:48from?
- 27:48I
- 27:48go
- 27:48right
- 27:49back
- 27:49there.
- 27:49Let's
- 27:49go
- 27:50right
- 27:50back
- 27:50there.
- 27:50Let's
- 27:50write
- 27:51her
- 27:51a
- 27:51lever
- 27:51letter.
- 27:52I
- 27:52do
- 27:53a
- 27:53lot
- 27:53of
- 27:53journaling,
- 27:54and
- 27:54when
- 27:54I
- 27:54write
- 27:54her
- 27:54letters,
- 27:55I
- 27:55always
- 27:56use
- 27:56the
- 27:56opposite
- 27:57hand
- 27:57and
- 27:57have
- 27:57her
- 27:58write
- 27:58one
- 27:58back.
- 27:59I
- 27:59don't
- 27:59know
- 27:59if
- 27:59you've
- 27:59ever
- 27:59tried
- 28:00anything
- 28:00like
- 28:00that.
- 28:01And
- 28:02the
- 28:02reasoning
- 28:02for
- 28:03that,
- 28:03they.
- 28:03The
- 28:04things
- 28:04that
- 28:04I've
- 28:04heard
- 28:04from
- 28:05psychologists
- 28:05and
- 28:06stuff
- 28:06is
- 28:06that
- 28:06when
- 28:06you
- 28:07use
- 28:07your
- 28:07opposite
- 28:07hand,
- 28:08you're
- 28:08pulling
- 28:09from
- 28:09the
- 28:09other
- 28:09side
- 28:09of
- 28:10your
- 28:10brain.
- 28:10You're
- 28:10kind
- 28:10of
- 28:11opening
- 28:11up
- 28:11more
- 28:11of
- 28:12the
- 28:12intuition
- 28:12side.
- 28:13All
- 28:13of
- 28:13this
- 28:13stuff,
- 28:14I
- 28:14think
- 28:15something
- 28:15different
- 28:16now.
- 28:16This
- 28:16is
- 28:16just
- 28:16me
- 28:16thinking,
- 28:17so
- 28:17who
- 28:18knows?
- 28:18You
- 28:18can
- 28:18take
- 28:19this
- 28:19with
- 28:19a
- 28:19grain
- 28:19of
- 28:19salt,
- 28:20but
- 28:20when
- 28:21you're
- 28:22writing
- 28:22with
- 28:22your
- 28:22opposite
- 28:23hand,
- 28:24you're
- 28:24focusing
- 28:25on
- 28:25the
- 28:26letters,
- 28:27not
- 28:27what
- 28:27you're
- 28:27actually
- 28:28saying.
- 28:28You're
- 28:28focusing
- 28:29on
- 28:29the.
- 28:30The
- 28:30purposely,
- 28:31like
- 28:31you
- 28:31know
- 28:31what
- 28:31you
- 28:32want
- 28:32to
- 28:32say.
- 28:32But
- 28:33I
- 28:33feel
- 28:33like
- 28:33when
- 28:33I
- 28:33do
- 28:34that,
- 28:34it
- 28:34takes
- 28:34the
- 28:34ego
- 28:35out
- 28:35of
- 28:35it.
- 28:35For
- 28:35me,
- 28:36it
- 28:36takes
- 28:36me
- 28:37out
- 28:37of
- 28:37it.
- 28:37And
- 28:37I'm
- 28:37just
- 28:38writing
- 28:38from
- 28:38her
- 28:39and
- 28:39focusing
- 28:39on
- 28:39the
- 28:39T
- 28:40and
- 28:40the
- 28:40H.
- 28:40And
- 28:41then
- 28:41I'll
- 28:41look
- 28:42down
- 28:42and
- 28:42like
- 28:42afterwards,
- 28:43and
- 28:43I'll
- 28:43read
- 28:43it
- 28:43like
- 28:43two
- 28:44days
- 28:44later
- 28:44and
- 28:44be
- 28:44like,
- 28:44oh,
- 28:45wow,
- 28:45that's
- 28:46kind
- 28:46of
- 28:46cool.
- 28:46Like,
- 28:46I
- 28:47never,
- 28:47like,
- 28:47literally,
- 28:48it's
- 28:48almost
- 28:48like.
- 28:50I
- 28:50don't
- 28:50want
- 28:50to
- 28:50say
- 28:50dissociating,
- 28:51but
- 28:51almost
- 28:51like
- 28:52I
- 28:52am.
- 28:52I'm
- 28:52literally.
- 28:53Yeah,
- 28:53I
- 28:54love
- 28:54that
- 28:54method.
- 28:54I'm
- 28:55going
- 28:55to
- 28:55try
- 28:55that
- 28:55for
- 28:55sure.
- 28:56That's
- 28:56a
- 28:56great
- 28:56idea.
- 28:57It
- 28:57made
- 28:57a
- 28:58really
- 28:58big
- 28:58difference
- 28:58to
- 28:59me.
- 28:59It
- 28:59really
- 28:59did.
- 29:00So
- 29:00great.
- 29:01This
- 29:01has
- 29:01been
- 29:01so
- 29:01much
- 29:02fun.
- 29:02I
- 29:02don't
- 29:02want
- 29:02to
- 29:02keep
- 29:02you
- 29:02all
- 29:03day.
- 29:03I
- 29:03know
- 29:03you
- 29:03are
- 29:03super
- 29:04busy,
- 29:04but
- 29:06I
- 29:06could
- 29:07talk
- 29:07to
- 29:07you
- 29:07all
- 29:07day.
- 29:07I
- 29:08mean,
- 29:08obviously
- 29:08we,
- 29:08you
- 29:09know,
- 29:09likewise.
- 29:10Yeah,
- 29:11I
- 29:11was
- 29:11gonna
- 29:11say
- 29:12it's.
- 29:12It's
- 29:12like
- 29:12being
- 29:12in
- 29:13a
- 29:13meeting
- 29:13now.
- 29:13I'm
- 29:14just
- 29:14kidding.
- 29:14But,
- 29:14yeah,
- 29:15those.
- 29:15There
- 29:16is
- 29:16so
- 29:16much
- 29:16power
- 29:17and
- 29:17community,
- 29:17and
- 29:18I
- 29:18tell
- 29:18people
- 29:18that
- 29:18all
- 29:19the
- 29:19time.
- 29:19And
- 29:19you
- 29:20have
- 29:20questions
- 29:20like
- 29:21that's
- 29:21why
- 29:21I
- 29:21do
- 29:21this
- 29:21podcast.
- 29:22If,
- 29:23if
- 29:23one
- 29:23person
- 29:24out
- 29:24of
- 29:2410,000
- 29:25goes,
- 29:25huh,
- 29:26maybe
- 29:26I'll
- 29:27try
- 29:27that.
- 29:27Or
- 29:27that
- 29:28sounds
- 29:28cool.
- 29:28Or
- 29:29let
- 29:29me.
- 29:29I
- 29:29never
- 29:29thought
- 29:30about
- 29:30that.
- 29:30I
- 29:31went
- 29:31back
- 29:31and
- 29:32I
- 29:32was
- 29:32one
- 29:32of
- 29:32kind
- 29:33of
- 29:33like
- 29:33you.
- 29:33I
- 29:33like
- 29:33to
- 29:33learn.
- 29:34I'm
- 29:34a
- 29:34chronic
- 29:34learner.
- 29:35So
- 29:36I
- 29:36had
- 29:36somebody
- 29:37say
- 29:37to
- 29:37me,
- 29:37hey,
- 29:37you
- 29:37ought
- 29:38to
- 29:38do
- 29:38nlp.
- 29:38Like,
- 29:39that
- 29:39might
- 29:39help
- 29:39you
- 29:39with
- 29:39your
- 29:40childhood
- 29:40stuff.
- 29:41So
- 29:41what
- 29:41do
- 29:41I
- 29:41do?
- 29:41I
- 29:41immediately
- 29:42go
- 29:42out
- 29:42and
- 29:42get
- 29:42certified
- 29:43to
- 29:43do
- 29:43nlp.
- 29:43Like,
- 29:44I'm,
- 29:44like,
- 29:44I.
- 29:44I'm
- 29:45not
- 29:45gonna
- 29:45let
- 29:45anybody
- 29:45try
- 29:46anything
- 29:46on
- 29:46me
- 29:46until
- 29:47I
- 29:47know
- 29:47what
- 29:47it's
- 29:47all
- 29:47about.
- 29:48But
- 29:49there's
- 29:50always
- 29:50learning.
- 29:51Like
- 29:51you
- 29:51said,
- 29:51there's
- 29:52always
- 29:52something.
- 29:53And
- 29:54oh,
- 29:54we,
- 29:54there's
- 29:55so
- 29:55much
- 29:55out
- 29:55there,
- 29:55guys.
- 29:56We
- 29:56are
- 29:56in
- 29:56a
- 29:56perfect
- 29:57world
- 29:57where
- 29:57there's
- 29:58so
- 29:58many
- 29:58resources
- 29:59for
- 29:59everybody.
- 30:00It
- 30:01shouldn't.
- 30:01All
- 30:02you
- 30:02need
- 30:02is
- 30:02one.
- 30:03One
- 30:03idea
- 30:04to
- 30:04spark.
- 30:04Wow.
- 30:05There's
- 30:05more.
- 30:05I
- 30:05can
- 30:06learn
- 30:06more
- 30:06or
- 30:07I
- 30:07can.
- 30:07I
- 30:07can
- 30:08be
- 30:08a
- 30:08little
- 30:08bit
- 30:08happier.
- 30:09And
- 30:10when
- 30:11you
- 30:11start,
- 30:11even
- 30:11if
- 30:11you
- 30:12don't
- 30:12exactly
- 30:13go
- 30:14ahead.
- 30:14Yeah.
- 30:14If
- 30:14you
- 30:14don't
- 30:14have
- 30:15the
- 30:15time
- 30:15even,
- 30:16you
- 30:16know,
- 30:16I
- 30:16started
- 30:16with
- 30:17one
- 30:17hour
- 30:17every
- 30:18week
- 30:18with
- 30:18one
- 30:18Al
- 30:18Anon
- 30:19meeting.
- 30:20And
- 30:20then
- 30:21I
- 30:21suddenly
- 30:21found
- 30:22the
- 30:22time
- 30:22miraculously.
- 30:23I
- 30:23had,
- 30:24you
- 30:24know,
- 30:24very
- 30:24demanding
- 30:25job
- 30:25as
- 30:26obviously
- 30:26very
- 30:27responsible
- 30:27at
- 30:27home
- 30:27for
- 30:28my
- 30:28sister.
- 30:28Lots
- 30:29of
- 30:29other
- 30:29things
- 30:29going
- 30:29on,
- 30:30but
- 30:30I
- 30:31started
- 30:31finding
- 30:31the
- 30:32time
- 30:32to
- 30:32put
- 30:32into
- 30:33it
- 30:33and
- 30:33it
- 30:33all
- 30:34just
- 30:34became
- 30:35clear
- 30:35what
- 30:35I
- 30:36needed
- 30:36to
- 30:36do.
- 30:37And
- 30:37I
- 30:37was
- 30:37forever
- 30:38grateful
- 30:39that
- 30:39I
- 30:39put
- 30:39those
- 30:40little
- 30:40bits
- 30:40of
- 30:40time
- 30:41into
- 30:41it
- 30:41because
- 30:41it's
- 30:42so
- 30:42more
- 30:42than
- 30:42worth
- 30:42it.
- 30:43Oh,
- 30:43yeah.
- 30:44And
- 30:44now
- 30:44that
- 30:44we
- 30:44have
- 30:44the
- 30:44Internet
- 30:45like
- 30:45you
- 30:45said,
- 30:46you
- 30:46could
- 30:46jump
- 30:47on
- 30:47right
- 30:47now
- 30:47and
- 30:47find
- 30:4820
- 30:48online
- 30:49Al
- 30:49Anon
- 30:49meetings.
- 30:50Yes.
- 30:50Yes.
- 30:51How
- 30:51fortunate
- 30:51we
- 30:52are
- 30:52in
- 30:52that
- 30:52way.
- 30:53Yes.
- 30:53You
- 30:53know,
- 30:53somehow
- 30:54I'll
- 30:54wake
- 30:54up
- 30:54sometimes
- 30:55in
- 30:55the
- 30:55middle
- 30:55of
- 30:55the
- 30:55night,
- 30:55it'll
- 30:55be
- 30:564
- 30:56o'clock
- 30:56in
- 30:56the
- 30:56morning.
- 30:56I'm
- 30:56like,
- 30:57oh,
- 30:57there's
- 30:57got
- 30:57to
- 30:57be
- 30:57one
- 30:57going
- 30:58on
- 30:58at.
- 30:58In
- 30:59Germany,
- 30:59because
- 30:59it's
- 30:5910
- 31:00in
- 31:00the
- 31:00morning
- 31:00there.
- 31:01You
- 31:01just
- 31:01jump
- 31:01on
- 31:02like
- 31:02there's.
- 31:02It's
- 31:02so
- 31:03easy.
- 31:03But
- 31:04if
- 31:04people
- 31:04want
- 31:05to
- 31:05work
- 31:05with
- 31:05you
- 31:05or
- 31:05talk
- 31:06to
- 31:06you
- 31:06or
- 31:06get
- 31:06more
- 31:07of
- 31:07your
- 31:07information,
- 31:07what
- 31:07is
- 31:08the
- 31:08absolute
- 31:08best
- 31:09place
- 31:09and
- 31:09quickest
- 31:09place
- 31:10for
- 31:10them
- 31:10to
- 31:10access
- 31:10you?
- 31:12The
- 31:12best
- 31:12place
- 31:13is
- 31:13my
- 31:13website,
- 31:14jodlam.com.
- 31:16i
- 31:16there
- 31:16share
- 31:17tips
- 31:17and
- 31:17resources,
- 31:19a
- 31:19lot
- 31:19about
- 31:19my
- 31:19personal
- 31:20journey,
- 31:20what
- 31:20I
- 31:21learned
- 31:21along
- 31:21the
- 31:21way.
- 31:22I'm
- 31:22also
- 31:23on,
- 31:23you
- 31:23know,
- 31:23pretty
- 31:24much
- 31:24all
- 31:24the
- 31:24social
- 31:25platforms,
- 31:25YouTube,
- 31:26Instagram,
- 31:27Facebook.
- 31:28And
- 31:29right
- 31:29now
- 31:29I'm
- 31:29working
- 31:29on
- 31:29a
- 31:30memoir.
- 31:30So
- 31:30I'm
- 31:31really
- 31:31excited
- 31:31to
- 31:32Release
- 31:32that
- 31:33in
- 31:332025.
- 31:34So
- 31:35if
- 31:35you're
- 31:35interested
- 31:35in
- 31:36learning
- 31:36more
- 31:37details
- 31:37about
- 31:37my
- 31:37story
- 31:38and
- 31:38what
- 31:38I
- 31:38learned,
- 31:39there's
- 31:39a
- 31:39sign
- 31:40up
- 31:40to
- 31:40my
- 31:40email
- 31:40list
- 31:41right
- 31:41on
- 31:41the
- 31:41homepage
- 31:42of
- 31:42my
- 31:43website,
- 31:43Jody
- 31:43Lamb.com
- 31:44and
- 31:45you
- 31:45sign
- 31:45up.
- 31:45You'll
- 31:45get
- 31:46tips
- 31:47and
- 31:47resources
- 31:47and
- 31:48be
- 31:48alerted
- 31:48when
- 31:48that
- 31:49book
- 31:49is
- 31:50available.
- 31:51Excited
- 31:51to
- 31:51share
- 31:53more
- 31:53details
- 31:53about
- 31:54my
- 31:54story.
- 31:54People
- 31:55ask
- 31:55me
- 31:55a
- 31:55lot
- 31:55of
- 31:56questions
- 31:56about
- 31:56it
- 31:57and
- 31:57I
- 31:57think
- 31:58it's
- 31:58very
- 31:58familiar
- 31:59to
- 32:00people.
- 32:00So
- 32:00really
- 32:01excited
- 32:01about
- 32:01next
- 32:02year
- 32:02for
- 32:02that.
- 32:03Oh,
- 32:03that'll
- 32:03be
- 32:03great.
- 32:04And
- 32:04we'll
- 32:04make
- 32:04sure.
- 32:04Just
- 32:05make
- 32:05sure
- 32:05you
- 32:05email
- 32:06me
- 32:06and
- 32:06I'll
- 32:06change
- 32:06the
- 32:07links
- 32:07in
- 32:07there
- 32:07so
- 32:07they
- 32:07can
- 32:07get
- 32:07a
- 32:08link
- 32:08to
- 32:08that
- 32:08book.
- 32:08But
- 32:09she
- 32:09is
- 32:09being
- 32:09very
- 32:09modest,
- 32:10guys.
- 32:10If
- 32:10you're
- 32:10out
- 32:11there
- 32:11listening,
- 32:11she
- 32:12has
- 32:12been
- 32:12a
- 32:13wealth
- 32:13of
- 32:13information
- 32:14for
- 32:14me
- 32:14for
- 32:14absolutely
- 32:15years.
- 32:16If
- 32:16I
- 32:16have
- 32:16any
- 32:17question
- 32:17about
- 32:17anything,
- 32:18I
- 32:18literally
- 32:18just
- 32:19go
- 32:19to
- 32:19Pinterest
- 32:19and
- 32:19Google
- 32:20it
- 32:20in
- 32:20or
- 32:21go
- 32:21to
- 32:21Pinterest
- 32:21and
- 32:22just
- 32:22type
- 32:22in
- 32:22the
- 32:22search
- 32:23like
- 32:23huh,
- 32:23codependency,
- 32:24Bam.
- 32:24And
- 32:25who
- 32:25comes
- 32:25up?
- 32:25Jody
- 32:26Lamb.
- 32:26And
- 32:27I
- 32:27read
- 32:27the
- 32:27article
- 32:27and
- 32:27I'm
- 32:27like,
- 32:28okay,
- 32:28that
- 32:28makes
- 32:28sense.
- 32:28Cool,
- 32:29thanks.
- 32:29You
- 32:29know,
- 32:30it's
- 32:30like
- 32:30literally
- 32:30I
- 32:30can
- 32:31get
- 32:31my
- 32:31daily
- 32:31dose
- 32:32just
- 32:32from
- 32:32you
- 32:32on
- 32:32social
- 32:33media,
- 32:33but
- 32:33you
- 32:34have
- 32:34a
- 32:34lot
- 32:34of
- 32:34good
- 32:35information.
- 32:35So
- 32:36definitely
- 32:36thank
- 32:36you
- 32:36very
- 32:36much.
- 32:37Yes,
- 32:37you're
- 32:38welcome.
- 32:38Definitely
- 32:38check
- 32:39out
- 32:39her
- 32:39website
- 32:40for
- 32:40sure.
- 32:41Now,
- 32:41if
- 32:41you
- 32:41had
- 32:41to
- 32:42leave
- 32:42the
- 32:42listeners
- 32:43and
- 32:43I
- 32:43know
- 32:43you've
- 32:43given
- 32:44a
- 32:44lot
- 32:44of
- 32:44golden
- 32:44nuggets
- 32:45and
- 32:45tips,
- 32:45but
- 32:45if
- 32:45you
- 32:46had
- 32:46to
- 32:46leave
- 32:46them
- 32:46with
- 32:47one,
- 32:48something
- 32:48tangible
- 32:49or
- 32:49some
- 32:49words
- 32:49of
- 32:50wisdom
- 32:50or
- 32:50just
- 32:50something
- 32:51to
- 32:51take
- 32:51with
- 32:51them
- 32:52today,
- 32:52what
- 32:53would
- 32:53it
- 32:53be?
- 32:56When
- 32:56I
- 32:57find
- 32:57myself
- 32:58faced
- 32:58with
- 32:59a
- 32:59decision
- 32:59every
- 33:00day,
- 33:00whether
- 33:01it's
- 33:01with
- 33:01a
- 33:02boundary,
- 33:02with
- 33:03my
- 33:03mother,
- 33:04with
- 33:04work,
- 33:05with
- 33:05people
- 33:06in
- 33:06my
- 33:06life,
- 33:07I
- 33:07ask
- 33:07myself
- 33:07a
- 33:08simple
- 33:08question
- 33:09and
- 33:09that
- 33:09is,
- 33:10is
- 33:10this
- 33:10good
- 33:11for
- 33:11you?
- 33:12And
- 33:12at
- 33:12first
- 33:13it
- 33:13felt
- 33:13very
- 33:13selfish
- 33:14to
- 33:14think
- 33:14like
- 33:15this
- 33:15because
- 33:16you
- 33:16know,
- 33:16my
- 33:16whole
- 33:16life
- 33:17I
- 33:17never
- 33:17put
- 33:18myself
- 33:18first.
- 33:19But
- 33:20it
- 33:20is
- 33:20so
- 33:20helpful
- 33:21in
- 33:22making
- 33:22decisions
- 33:23because
- 33:24most
- 33:24often
- 33:25it's
- 33:26not
- 33:26good
- 33:26for
- 33:27me.
- 33:27And
- 33:27it
- 33:27really
- 33:28helps
- 33:28guide
- 33:30in
- 33:30making
- 33:30the
- 33:30right
- 33:31decision
- 33:31in
- 33:32setting
- 33:32firm
- 33:33boundaries.
- 33:34And
- 33:34I've
- 33:34often
- 33:35found
- 33:35that
- 33:35what
- 33:35feels
- 33:36wrong
- 33:36in
- 33:37the
- 33:37moment
- 33:38is
- 33:38generally
- 33:39absolutely
- 33:40the
- 33:40right
- 33:41thing
- 33:41to
- 33:41do.
- 33:42And
- 33:43it's
- 33:43uncomfortable.
- 33:44But
- 33:44it's
- 33:44worth
- 33:45following
- 33:46your
- 33:47intuition
- 33:47and
- 33:48making
- 33:48that
- 33:48decision
- 33:49because
- 33:50it
- 33:50can
- 33:50be
- 33:51what
- 33:51makes
- 33:51or
- 33:52breaks
- 33:52your
- 33:52life
- 33:53and
- 33:53your
- 33:53life
- 33:54depends
- 33:54on
- 33:54it.
- 33:55So
- 33:55asking
- 33:56yourself
- 33:56that
- 33:56question
- 33:57can
- 33:57really
- 33:57be
- 33:58a
- 33:58guide.
- 33:59Wow,
- 34:00that's
- 34:00a
- 34:00good
- 34:00one.
- 34:00I
- 34:01haven't
- 34:01gotten
- 34:01that
- 34:01one.
- 34:01107
- 34:02episodes.
- 34:02I
- 34:03haven't
- 34:03gotten
- 34:03that
- 34:03one.
- 34:03But
- 34:04that
- 34:04is
- 34:04a
- 34:04perfect
- 34:05test
- 34:05is
- 34:06just
- 34:06ask
- 34:06yourself.
- 34:07It's
- 34:07very
- 34:07simple.
- 34:08It's
- 34:08cut
- 34:08and
- 34:08dry.
- 34:09Is
- 34:09this
- 34:09good
- 34:09for
- 34:10you?
- 34:10If
- 34:10it's
- 34:11not,
- 34:11don't
- 34:11do
- 34:12it.
- 34:12Don't
- 34:12entertain
- 34:13it.
- 34:13Don't
- 34:14let
- 34:14it
- 34:14in.
- 34:15Save
- 34:15your
- 34:16energy
- 34:16around
- 34:16your
- 34:17space
- 34:17like
- 34:17you
- 34:17deserve
- 34:18100%
- 34:20of
- 34:21that
- 34:21energy
- 34:21that
- 34:22is
- 34:22yours
- 34:23that
- 34:23you
- 34:23you
- 34:23love.
- 34:24Yeah,
- 34:25I
- 34:25love
- 34:25that.
- 34:26Well,
- 34:26thank
- 34:26you
- 34:27so
- 34:27much
- 34:27for
- 34:27coming
- 34:28on,
- 34:28Jodi.
- 34:29Oh,
- 34:29thank
- 34:29you,
- 34:30Tammy.
- 34:30I
- 34:30really
- 34:30enjoyed
- 34:31our
- 34:31conversation.
- 34:32Oh,
- 34:32yeah,
- 34:33absolutely.
- 34:33And
- 34:34maybe
- 34:34we'll
- 34:34have
- 34:34you
- 34:34back
- 34:35when
- 34:35your
- 34:35book
- 34:35launches,
- 34:35when
- 34:36your
- 34:36memoir
- 34:36launches.
- 34:37That
- 34:37would
- 34:37be
- 34:37fun.
- 34:37That'd
- 34:37be
- 34:38great.
- 34:38That
- 34:38would
- 34:38be
- 34:38super
- 34:39fun.
- 34:39And
- 34:40for
- 34:40everybody
- 34:40out
- 34:40there
- 34:41listening,
- 34:41you
- 34:41heard
- 34:41it.
- 34:42It
- 34:42doesn't
- 34:42matter,
- 34:42guys.
- 34:43What
- 34:43you
- 34:43went
- 34:43through.
- 34:44There
- 34:44is
- 34:44hope.
- 34:44There
- 34:44is
- 34:45healing.
- 34:45There
- 34:45is
- 34:46a
- 34:46happier
- 34:47you
- 34:47at
- 34:47the
- 34:47other
- 34:48side.
- 34:48You
- 34:48just
- 34:49got
- 34:49to
- 34:49learn
- 34:49where
- 34:50to
- 34:50look
- 34:50for
- 34:50it.
- 34:51Have
- 34:51a
- 34:51blessed
- 34:51day.
- 34:52Bye,
- 34:52guys.