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JORDAN OMLEY - Don’t Clean Your Pan! · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: What's good, guys. I am Jordan's Omley. This is eating
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  Speaker 1: while broke check the apron. I'm with my good friend
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  Speaker 1: Colleen Witt, who I've known for a long time, one
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  Speaker 1: of the first people I met out here in l
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  Speaker 1: A when I moved from Seattle. So I'm really happy
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  Speaker 1: to be here. And I'm a producer, musician, singer, songwriter.
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  Speaker 1: UH do a little bit of everything, saying wrap cook,
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  Speaker 1: So today we are making one of my favorite things
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  Speaker 1: to make, and a great meal to make if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a big budget, which is breakfast burritos. Because
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  Speaker 1: when I moved to Seattle, they turned me out out
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  Speaker 1: here and let so I've got hash Brown's going right now,
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  Speaker 1: which kind of take the longest to make, so I've
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  Speaker 1: had those cooking for a minute. I've got my spicy
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  Speaker 1: refried beans going right here, which actually I'm gonna add
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  Speaker 1: some cheese because cheese and beans is, you know, two
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  Speaker 1: of the best words in the English language, So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get that going. I've got um jalapeno. I've got
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  Speaker 1: some red onion going over here. That's a flavor combination
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  Speaker 1: that I use and I don't know most most of
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  Speaker 1: what I cook unless it's specific to like a region.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always cooking with peppers and onions, So I've got
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  Speaker 1: that going. Uh. And then we've got some Colleen didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what this was, which is hilarious to me. So
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  Speaker 1: if you live in l A and you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what dys so is, you just ain't doing it. I
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  Speaker 1: heard the word guy. We had it was off camera.
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  Speaker 1: She looked at this thing like a like a cow
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  Speaker 1: at a new gate. I didn't know what to expect. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So this is beet theresa, which is a must um
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  Speaker 1: for breakfast burritos in my opinion. Although you can make
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  Speaker 1: them with whatever chicken. You could do a vegetarian, you
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  Speaker 1: could do a soada, whatever you like. But for me
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  Speaker 1: is the way to go. Um. And then we got cheese, salsa,
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  Speaker 1: we've got eggs, we've got avocado. Um. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: not one of those dishes that's super complicated. I think
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  Speaker 1: it really is just about getting ingredients that you think
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  Speaker 1: work well the other and all this stuff is it's
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  Speaker 1: good together. And I'm not I'm I'm completely not shocked
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  Speaker 1: that your dish would come with all these ingredients because
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  Speaker 1: I've eaten at your house and You're a real You're
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  Speaker 1: the real deal. I like to cook. I grew up
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  Speaker 1: around like Dad is an incredible cook, so I just
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  Speaker 1: grew up around it. I've always loved to cook and
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  Speaker 1: I love to eat. So now that we kind of
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  Speaker 1: have the basis of your meal, I'm gonna saw this.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to get to know you more. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, it's a little smoky in here, guys. So
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  Speaker 1: if I choked up, no one judged me because I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of those people that every burner and if they
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  Speaker 1: had another burner, I'd have that one going too. So
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  Speaker 1: we're working in here today. We are definitely working in here.
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  Speaker 1: So um, Jordan's has worked, like I said, with the best.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the most amazing things about Jordan's story
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  Speaker 1: is how you got your start. Tell us about it.
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  Speaker 1: I know I had something to what your day job
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  Speaker 1: actually right, Well, yeah it did eventually it did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I was, I was rapping at a
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  Speaker 1: young age and I was Um. I was signed when
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  Speaker 1: I was fourteen years old to Sony form a development
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  Speaker 1: deal and I got in the studio actually in Seattle
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  Speaker 1: with Sir mix a lot when I was really young
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  Speaker 1: and Sir mix a lot kind of took me under
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  Speaker 1: his wing, introduced me to a lot of people, and
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  Speaker 1: I ended up on tour with Snoop and Mystical and
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  Speaker 1: Digital Underground, and I was like, you know, live in
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  Speaker 1: a high school life, um, singing in choir, and then
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  Speaker 1: I was on the road, like rapping with these legends.
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  Speaker 1: But how did you in the crossing paths with them
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  Speaker 1: if you're in Seattle? Mix a lot knew these dudes,
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  Speaker 1: so they would come to they would come to Seattle
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  Speaker 1: to do shows, and then Mix would take me to
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  Speaker 1: the shows. He'd introduced me to him with my boy
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  Speaker 1: the Dog, who was someone like a local kind of
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  Speaker 1: a local legend up in Seattle, and the Dog kind
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  Speaker 1: of put me in touch with all these dudes. And
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  Speaker 1: then I started doing show was with them, and um,
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  Speaker 1: that let me know that I at least had the
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  Speaker 1: talent to do what I wanted to do. But at
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  Speaker 1: the time I was one of the funniest things that
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  Speaker 1: people don't know is I've never drank in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I've never even tasted alcohol. I've never had a drug,
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  Speaker 1: a cigarette, nothing. So when I was doing shows with
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  Speaker 1: these dudes, like the after parties were like every cliche
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  Speaker 1: you could think of for these crazy after parties was
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  Speaker 1: super real and I was uncomfortable. So I would go
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  Speaker 1: like back to my hotel room or wherever we were staying,
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  Speaker 1: and I would be writing pop songs secretly, like I
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  Speaker 1: love to sing and I was inquired. So I started
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  Speaker 1: writing pop songs at a young age and fell in
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  Speaker 1: love with that too, so I kind of I was
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  Speaker 1: doing a little bit of everything. Um, when I've decided
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to move out of Seattle because I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see a musical future there at the time, I got
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  Speaker 1: a job selling over the phone for Direct TV. They
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  Speaker 1: had an office in Orange County. And the whole time
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  Speaker 1: this is going on, your parents are saying what exactly?
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  Speaker 1: They my dad and my bonus mom, Nina, his wife,
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  Speaker 1: we're really supportive. My mom was a little apprehensive about
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  Speaker 1: me doing rapper music at first, but she eventually came
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  Speaker 1: around when I worked with one of her favorite singers.
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  Speaker 1: We could talk about that later, but yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: it was cool. They were supportive, you know, they knew
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  Speaker 1: that I was going to do it anyway. At a
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  Speaker 1: young age. I told him, Look, school is not my thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to college. I'm not gonna get good
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  Speaker 1: grades in high school, but I'm definitely gonna make it
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  Speaker 1: as a as a rapper or a songwriter. And they
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  Speaker 1: were like, okay, so thank god it works because there
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  Speaker 1: was no plan b um, but yeah, they were cool.
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  Speaker 1: So I made the move and I was in uh Irvine,
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  Speaker 1: UM selling direct TV day job nine to five type
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  Speaker 1: stuff for UM yeah for about three months. UM. Early
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  Speaker 1: here in my life, I had been in different cities.
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  Speaker 1: The Bay Area was one of them, and I had
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  Speaker 1: made some connections that I saved like business cards in
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  Speaker 1: my phone type stuff. And one of the connections that
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  Speaker 1: I made was to a big producer up in the
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  Speaker 1: Bay Area. His name was Nardam Michael Walden. He said,
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  Speaker 1: legend in the world of pop music, and UM. I
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  Speaker 1: started calling everybody and everybody turned me down. Everybody said
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  Speaker 1: no to wanting to meet me now that I was
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  Speaker 1: in l A. But he was one of the only
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  Speaker 1: people that said yes. So I took a trip up
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  Speaker 1: to the Bay Area. I drove my like old broke
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  Speaker 1: Honda cord that had two d fourteen thousand miles on it,
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  Speaker 1: but it worked and it got me up to the
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  Speaker 1: Bay and I met with him and he had me
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  Speaker 1: sing like my three best songs he wanted me to sing,
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  Speaker 1: and he hated all didn't like one song, and so
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  Speaker 1: I was like really deflated walking out of the studio
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  Speaker 1: because I was like, damn, like I really thought these
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  Speaker 1: were good songs and I thought this was like a
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  Speaker 1: big break for me. And as I was leaving, this
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  Speaker 1: dude came out of the control room and he was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't like anything, so I don't sweat it, like
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  Speaker 1: I thought your songs were great. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, man, but like I'm feeling pretty down, and
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  Speaker 1: he was like no, Like, I'm a producer, my name's
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  Speaker 1: Mike Monty, and I want to give you this beat
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  Speaker 1: c D of my tracks. So I was like okay,
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  Speaker 1: bet So Mike gave me this beat t D and
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  Speaker 1: I drove back six hours back to my place where
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  Speaker 1: I was living in Orange County from the Bay Area,
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  Speaker 1: and I wrote to all of them, every track and
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  Speaker 1: I just fell in love with his music. And I
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  Speaker 1: called him when I got back to Orange County and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, bro, your tracks are amazing, Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't say I love him, and I wrote like crazy
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  Speaker 1: to him. He was like, which one did you write to?
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  Speaker 1: I said all of them. So he was like, okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: he said, the next time you're in the bay, uh,
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  Speaker 1: come by and show me the songs. I was like, okay, bet,
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  Speaker 1: hung up, got in the car, drove six hours. UM
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  Speaker 1: showed up at his house. Because my dad always told
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  Speaker 1: me when I was young, this is there was no
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  Speaker 1: like this was like a long time ago, keep in mind,
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  Speaker 1: so I map quested this. There was no like GPS,
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  Speaker 1: like I printed out my directions up map quest. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't know what map quest is, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what to tell you. You're too young, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: So after Um, after I made that drive, I just
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  Speaker 1: showed up at his place because because the addresses on
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  Speaker 1: his business card. So when I showed up at his house,
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  Speaker 1: he opened the door and he was like, I thought
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  Speaker 1: you were back in Orange County and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you said the next time I'm in the Bay,
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  Speaker 1: I could come and show you my songs, and I'm here,
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  Speaker 1: so what's up. So it was just one of those
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  Speaker 1: moments where like I took a chance and I just
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  Speaker 1: went for it, and thank god it worked because Mike
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  Speaker 1: and I have been writing together for eighteen years since
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  Speaker 1: that day, so I went back to the Bay area. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and he loved those songs. He loved Yeah, he loved
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  Speaker 1: the songs. We had a great chemistry. So I went
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  Speaker 1: back to Orange County where I was working still my
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  Speaker 1: nine to five job, and Mike was in the Bay.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, I have to figure out a
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  Speaker 1: way to make this work somehow. So by a Fluke,
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  Speaker 1: the boss of the Direct TV location, who was super
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  Speaker 1: rich and super cool, but he was also like very
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  Speaker 1: about his business. He had his assistant come over my desk.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, hey, Tom wants to talk to you
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  Speaker 1: in his office about you leaving for these back to
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  Speaker 1: back days. I'm like okay, So I go. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, I had like a crush on this girl,
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  Speaker 1: like I was. I knew I was about to get
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  Speaker 1: scolded in front of this girl who like the cool.
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  Speaker 1: So we go to Tom's office. Tom's like, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: you left two days. You didn't give me any notice,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the policy here. Unfortunately, like that's just
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  Speaker 1: not okay, um, but um, I need you to sign
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  Speaker 1: this paperwork before you leave. And now I'm pleading for
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  Speaker 1: my job. I'm like, I'm like begging in front of
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  Speaker 1: Tom in front of his assistant, looking like a fool,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, it just is what it is. I've
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  Speaker 1: made my decision. He like slid this envelope over to me,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like a Manila full there was paperwork
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  Speaker 1: in it. But I opened it up and on the
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  Speaker 1: top there was a cashier's check on top of the
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  Speaker 1: envelope and it was made out to me UM, and
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  Speaker 1: it was in the amount of thirty dollars. And I
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  Speaker 1: looked up at him and I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what this is. And he goes, look, I heard what
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  Speaker 1: you made up in the bay, Um. You need to
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  Speaker 1: take this money and get as far away from here
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  Speaker 1: and go back to there and do as much of
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  Speaker 1: that as you can. And I just instantly started crying, ugly, crying,
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  Speaker 1: like you know what I mean like that, And it's
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  Speaker 1: in front of this girl. No, it couldn't. It couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have been worse. Do you think she knew about it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. She was shocked too. But he had
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  Speaker 1: heard the music because I played it, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: people around the office, um at a party, and he
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  Speaker 1: believed in it. And he was just like, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: life is about paying it forward. I'm like, I will
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  Speaker 1: pay you back this money. And he was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: this is a gift. The way you can pay me
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  Speaker 1: act is by doing good for other people. And anytime
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  Speaker 1: you get the chance, just do good for people. So
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  Speaker 1: he gave me this check. I left the building with
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  Speaker 1: this check, went to the bank and put this check
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  Speaker 1: in my account, which was overdrawn by like eighty two bucks.
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  Speaker 1: And I went up to the teller and she was like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: this is nice. I'm like, yeah, this is crazy. What's
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  Speaker 1: my balance? And she's like, you're overdrawn eighty two. So
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  Speaker 1: I had to wait for this check to clear, and
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  Speaker 1: then I called Mike and I'm like, bro, I'm moving,
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  Speaker 1: Like I got money, I'm moving. That the biggest amount
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  Speaker 1: of money you had seen at that time. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course, And none of that money was for me.
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  Speaker 1: I gave that money to Mike to book him out
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  Speaker 1: pretty much for six months. We like, I've moved. I
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  Speaker 1: used that money to move, got a place, booked out
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  Speaker 1: Mike's work for many months, and we just got to work.
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  Speaker 1: And since that day we've never stopped. It's just been
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  Speaker 1: it's just been amazing. So really, that guy Tom Martindale
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  Speaker 1: Direct TV. Everybody that man, right, there. I gotta put
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  Speaker 1: my hash Browns in here with this. You kind of
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  Speaker 1: want when you're cooking a breakfast burrito, you really want
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  Speaker 1: the flavors of everything to start working together as soon
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  Speaker 1: as possible. So when you feel like you've got your
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  Speaker 1: Theresa done, which I do, and you feel like you've
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  Speaker 1: got your hash Browns done, you want to like let
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  Speaker 1: them get happy together. Okay. And I saw you dump
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  Speaker 1: the onions and I dumped onions. Yeah, you like you
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  Speaker 1: really want this thing to be like like beach front
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  Speaker 1: property in Flavortown. You know what I'm saying. When you
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  Speaker 1: buy into it, you really want that. So I get
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  Speaker 1: this going all together because we're pretty much good now.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't even got the burner off. Like we're at
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  Speaker 1: the point with this stuff where now it's eggs clatillas
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  Speaker 1: and we start putting it together, so we're good. This
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  Speaker 1: looks so it's gonna be it's gonna be good. Um,
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: so we're doing eggs nice. So yeah, that's um. That's
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  Speaker 1: kind of how I got my break, honestly. And then
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  Speaker 1: Mike and I started working like crazy. We signed a
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  Speaker 1: publishing deal um with Sony through Big John Platt shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Big John for changing my life, and we
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: found our first artist. We signed a girl that was
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: twelve years old. We believed in her. Her name is
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Tory Kelly. She's a pretty amazing singer. If you guys
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: don't know who Tory Kelly is, she's one of the
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  Speaker 1: best singers in the world and she's gone on to
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  Speaker 1: do really well. And that signing Tori and developing Tori
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  Speaker 1: was a big break for us UM And then we
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  Speaker 1: got lucky. We got in with the Backstreet Boys, we
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  Speaker 1: got in with Pussycat Dolls, Brandy And at this point,
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  Speaker 1: what when do you personally feel like you arrived? Like
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  Speaker 1: when was it? Like, I'm sure that the thirty dollar
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  Speaker 1: check was confirmation that you were on the right path. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that did make because you know, the whole time, you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm good. What if I'm awful? Like do
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: you ever watch American Idol or The Voice and you see, well,
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  Speaker 1: the voices talent, But when you see American Idols some
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: of these people auditioning, you're like, someone know you're not good, man, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you have to know you're not good. But with this,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, I think I'm good enough. People have
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  Speaker 1: told me that I have talent and I really hope so,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that was confirmation for sure. So I did
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  Speaker 1: feel like then when we started getting in rooms with
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  Speaker 1: people that I was like big, Like when I was
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: in the room with Brandy writing songs for Brandy's album
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  Speaker 1: and I'm a massive Brandy fan, I'm like, yea, this
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  Speaker 1: is like I'm on, yeah, yeah, this is crazy. So
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't the checks. It was like, it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: my favorite rappers, jay Z, of course, So like if
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  Speaker 1: I ever first of all people who know me, no,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even But if I think that, if I
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  Speaker 1: ever got an opportunity to interview jay Z, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I've arrived. You can't. I'm almost Beyonce level
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  Speaker 1: at this point. You know what I'm saying. I'm not mad,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. So yeah, it was more than people
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  Speaker 1: than the checks. Honestly, anybody in music, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: how big you are, if you want to use that
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  Speaker 1: term or successful. Everybody knows that money comes and goes
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  Speaker 1: in this business. Sometimes you got it, sometimes you don't.
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  Speaker 1: Like if I got songs on the radio that are
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  Speaker 1: doing well or songs that are streaming well, business is
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  Speaker 1: popping but there's times where you don't and then you're
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: you know, you've got to live a little tighter, and
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  Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. So I've never really
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  Speaker 1: defined success in music by money. It was more about
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  Speaker 1: like the opportunities, because once you get into the business,
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  Speaker 1: you realize how hard it is to get in rooms
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  Speaker 1: with people. Anybody could write songs, and today there's so
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  Speaker 1: many people writing songs off their laptops sending them in
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  Speaker 1: from their bedroom, which is amazing because they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: that when I started out. But it's really hard to
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  Speaker 1: get in a room with people, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 1: like you're a fan of jay Z. I was a
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  Speaker 1: big fan of Tech nine and I got to fly
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  Speaker 1: to Kansas City and work with Tech nine, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and that was like that's hard. That those kind of
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  Speaker 1: things made it more like believable for me. So was
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  Speaker 1: there ever a point where you made money and you
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  Speaker 1: kinda blew it and then all the time, are you
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  Speaker 1: kidding me? I've rented this house that was five bedrooms
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  Speaker 1: and it was me living in it because I was
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is amazing and I want to
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: feel like a baller. And I built a shoe room,
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  Speaker 1: and I got four hundred pairs of sneakers, and I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: was just an idiot, and I blew money like crazy
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: all the time. And then you hit a point where
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know, you realize what's more important,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: like stability and paying taxes and other things like that
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: that I didn't want to do for a long time.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, of course there's plenty of that stuff.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: So since your career has taken off, this particular meal,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: this signature dish, I'm guessing you still eat every once
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: in a while for luxury or has there been a
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: point in the last five years where you had to
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: eat it out of survival. Well, survival is so dramatic,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you're living in in
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: l a you're all right no matter how broke you are.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: There's people that around this world that are doing a
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: lot worse. So survival is tough to say. But I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: will say that is just really hard, because that's what
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But if you can afford to pay rent
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: in l A, h, you know you're surviving. Yeah, that's true.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: But I will say this, this is a meal that
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: my wife loves. I like to cook breakfast every weekend
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: if I can for us, and this is just one
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: that like, she absolutely loves it. So I make this
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: meal a lot at the house, so yeah, we do
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: eat this one. I'm just looking at this meal. I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: feel like this is going to be drafted into first
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: of all, probably take ownership with my husband and be
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: like I came up with this dish. You know it's
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: going to see an episode of this, like stop that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: line probably when I serviced when he's like, where'd you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: get this? Eating well broke but um, but yeah, this
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: dish looks smells with all the ingredients. I'm like completely
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: shocked that you can have such a real rest around
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: almost all dish for so cheap, and it's not even
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: unhealthy because most of the meals we see that com
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: on this show are just you know they're unhealthy because
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I get it. Let me give you a tip to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: for people out there when you're about to do yours.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Uh you want to put I like to cook it
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: in the pant overhead shot, overhead camp. Don't clean your pan.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That's that's flavor. That's flavor. Just put that thing right
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: on there and let it get happy. Just look the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: outside get dirty, or something. You're assuming that the part
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I just put it on the outside. See what you
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: do is once this is ready, just is once it's warm.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Now you take this thing off and the bottom part
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: is the inside, and now I start filling it. So
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I'll show you this part is a little bit of
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: like a a multi layered process because I like to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I like to load it up a certain kind of way.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: But but I think it's interesting about George too. Was like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: while I was watching and Cook, I'm like, oh, he
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: needs He's clearly going to need like way more pots
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and pants. But no, you're just like swapping flavors the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: entire exactly. You let everything get happy together. Look at that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Now we do this. So who so far in your
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: career would you say, uh, probably left the most I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: guess impact. Mm hmm. That's a good question. Who left
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the most impact creatively? Or like, like, who did I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: like the most? Those are different questions. You can answer
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: both because I'll use both of us. So I think
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: that somebody that left like a really big impact on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: me personally that I went in with was Mariah. So
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: this was one of those moments where it's like, this
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: is a legend okay. But the reason why it left
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: such an impact was she was not like how you
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: might think in your head of how you know someone
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: so big would be in the studio. She was very
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: like when she would listen down to her vocals that
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: we were going through, she would say, oh, like, oh no,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: don't play that one, like that's not it. And I'm like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you're like anything you sing is amazing, Like this take
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: that you don't think is good is so good. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I think that like it showed me a level of like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: even when you get to the top, you still have
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to be so vigilant and you still have to be
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: so selective about what you put out there and what
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: people here. And I kind of thought that was amazing
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: because you could at that level, you could just ride
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the easy train from there on out if you want to.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But she also shows her level of passion and commitment
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: right completely. That's what I'm saying, Like, it was very cool.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was just cool for a different
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: reason because it was it just kind of showed me like, Okay,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: whatever level you're at in this business, keep going. Yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: So that was big to me. Not at all. She
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was great. Really, I thought she was awesome. I mean,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I know, I know people say things about her, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean she was she was super cool.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: She showed up at the studio. This was her and
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Nick Cannon walked in. Wait, you didn't put the cheese
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: on that one girl. I understand. Oh, I just been't
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: watching to get my my little because I was gonna
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: say who was wearing the apron, but we're both wearing apron,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't. So here's the thing. She
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: showed up at the studio looking like Catwoman. She had it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: She all leather jacket, black leather, black leather pants, black
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: leather patent shoes. I was like, okay, this woman is
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a deep but like she's a star. But she was
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: so cool. She was cool as the other side of
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the pillow the whole time. So I don't know, you know, um,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So that was big. Somebody that like made a big
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: impact on my life in another way, and and they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: know this now because I've told them, is Michael Bolton.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know who that is, but
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: he was a really big singer in the eighties, huge,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like well, he was the biggest pop vocalist in the eighties.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: This guy has unbelievable voice, you know ten number one songs.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: He's been a writer on you know, Double that. So anyway,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I grew up in the house hearing Michael Bolton all
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the time because this is what my mom loved, Michael Bolton.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So I eventually got a call from someone saying, Michael
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Bolton wants to get in with you guys and work
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: on his new album. And I was like, oh, that's cool,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: because like that was kind of nostalgic. But what really
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: happened was that when Bolton was in with us, I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was like, man, my mom like she hasn't always got
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: like how I'm going to make it in music, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: she does believe in me big time. But it would
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be amazing if I called my mom and put you
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: on the phone with her. She's the biggest Michael Bolton.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: He was like, let's go. So like I called my mom.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I got Michael Bolton here. She's like
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: uh huh, So like not for real, Like I'm in
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: with Michael boll This is crazy. So he gets on
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the phone and he's like singing my praises and saying,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: how you know, great of a writer I am, And
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I'm like, yeah, Milk keep saying,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: tell her I'm even better. So he's milking it. And honestly,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: from that day, like my mom got it. She was like, Okay,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I might not have got all the rap stuff he
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was doing, but like this is crazy, like my son's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: writing with Michael freaking Bolton, and like, I'm a huge fan.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: So since that day, she's been such a big supporter,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: like hangs my plaques in her house like she's like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And also Michael Bolton gives
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: my mom tickets to every show he does in California.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: She goes backstage like v I P to Michael Bolton.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you better cut that out. So, yeah, it's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. So I don't know, There's there's ways
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that you get touched in this business that I think
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you can't even anticipate. Sometimes, Yeah, what advice would you
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: give to someone that's coming up in the game. You
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: got a baby in there. Don't act like you're excited
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: about this. Trust me, I'm beyond excited. Okay, Um, what
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: was your question? Um? Sorry you distracted me. I know
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I was food, I was chef is a little bit cocky. Unfortunately,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: we're probably gonna wrap soon. So but I wanted to know, like,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: what advice would you give to someone that is trying
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to make it because you have kind of all these
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: blessing milestones, But what advice would you give? Um? I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: think the best advice I can give, honestly, in the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: simplest form, is just every time you have a chance
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to get in the room, just kick as much ass
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: as you can every time. Mhmm. Don't ever think that
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you're better than anyone in that room. Just try like
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you're auditioning for the team every single time you get
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: a chance, no matter what stage you're at. Because some
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of the best that I've the legends that I've got
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a chance to work with, their legends because they do
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that every time when they're on the mic or they're
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in the room, they are working as hard as they
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: can three time. So even after you've made it, don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: slack on. What if something's a smaller budget, do you
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: say give it your all? Or every time you get
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the chance, because you never know what's a small you
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: never know what is going to go on to make it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I stopped trying to predict what's a hit a long
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: time ago. People are like, oh, I just wrote a smash.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I just wrote a smash. I'm like, bro, you don't.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: First of all, nobody can predict what a hit is
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: going to be until it happens, so you don't know. Um,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: can I just tell you this right here? I'm not
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: trying to shout out while jack, but this Jack del
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Fuego sauce. This changed my life. If you can get
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a close up of this right here. If you don't
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: know what this is, you might as well just go
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: figure that one out. We're technically not supposed to do that,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: but it's okay. Say what you want to say. So
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: is there a flavor of that sauce? This one right here?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: How a narrow carrot? Look? Okay, have a narrow carrot.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you actually did that because I'm gonna try
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and make this disht I'm trying to tell you this,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: how a narrow carrot? Girl? How you pray twice in
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the day. So that's the advice I would give. Yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And I noticed with your everything that happened in your career,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like you moved urgently, like you didn't waste time,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you didn't care about you know, is this person I'm
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: too eager. That's a great point, you know, honestly, the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: reason behind that is because you learn early on that
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you can't predict what success is going to be in
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: this business. You don't know what song is gonna work,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you don't know what projects going to sell, So you
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: can't you can't like bask in your own glory for
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: too long. You have to just do your best work
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: weight before you fall. That dude overhead. Can you got
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to see that that is crazy right there? This looks
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: beautiful just like this. So I think, like you just
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna work. So you don't spend
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of time thinking you're the ship. Because that
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: project that you think might be so successful might not be.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: And even if it was super successful, the next one
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that you get on might flop. So just appreciate your
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: success and be happy about it, but then keep it moving. Okay,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Now what about and I and I hate to I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: still go through this to this day, Like you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you're working on a project, even like with eating while broke,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: do you think that there's a level of like negative
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: energy that could affect the outcome? Because I feel like
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: no matter how far or how many little milestones not
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: as big as yours um that I've accomplished. I still
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: get back in my mind think, oh it could fail,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: or maybe I'm just in my head thinking it's not
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: big enough. But do you think that energy affects you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: like the laws of attraction. Do you think that affects it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I think that negative energy is it's like complaining about
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the size of the moon. It's not gonna do any good.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: You can't change it. So I don't spend a lot
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: of time being negative. Even when I'm working on projects,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I might not be excited about I'm working on the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: same because you just don't. I don't know, Like I
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: don't put it out there honestly, but I'm saying, like
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that internal self doubt that you battle it. I always
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: have internal self doubt every single day. Every day I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: have it. Is the song good enough is, you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: is what I'm am I working hard enough is? You know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Like I'm always thinking like that, But that is just
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: what pushes you to keep being great. You know. So
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that's a normal you'd say that's like normal. I think
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it's completely normal. I think it's part of what makes
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: people successful is that drive to never think like you've
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: made it or that everything you do is so good.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Have you ever worked with someone where you know their
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: album did extremely well, but the whole time they the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: artist whatever, was questioning it. Oh my god. Almost every
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: artist does that, really. Yeah, I mean I think the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: great ones always do. They'll know when they've made something
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that feels really good to them, but they're always questioning
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: if the pupp is gonna love it. Yeah, you know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like I've worked a lot with the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys, I've had a lot of success with them.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Every time their album drops, they are the most excited
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: people to go look and see how it does. They're reading,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: they're looking through it. Like these guys don't need to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: do anything for the rest of their lives. If they
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: don't want to, that's amazing. But they love it, they
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: live for it. Yes, So I think that's important to
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: know to keep in mind. Oh well, this interview has
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: gone really well, except for the fact that we haven't
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: actually tasted it yet. What's happening right now? You can't
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: rush hosting a burrito. I don't know. Somebody lied to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you if they tell you the overhead the whole shoot
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: should be just on you. You should have a cooking show.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Let's go um oh, the third one if you want,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you could do that after. Yeah, that's fine, let's do
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that one after. Yes, we'll keep that for a time. Everybody,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I just hold up. We gotta cut this thing because
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: if you got to show the inside. Okay, you feel me?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Get this little knife cooking show. You've got this tiny
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: little knife. Can we get a knife endorsement? Let's get
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a knife endorsement of it here, that's all right. Oh
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: my gosh, it has a crispy shell. That's why you
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: were trying to rush me. But no, I don't but
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I don't cave. Look at that. Let's get it over.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, let's get that thing right there. That
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: looks amazing. My hands burning. So then you just played
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it a little bit like this. Okay, so you just
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: do that, and now what you really want to do
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to have a little fun with it every time? A Yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna blooded like that. I'm
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: not gonna do you call blooded like that. You get
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: tell he's a real chef because he's he's turned the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: island upside down completely. Okay, Now what you want to do.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Give people a little chance to fall in love with
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that taste with the sauce, because they might not choose
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to do it themselves. You've gotta urge them. So here
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you go. Awesome. Thank you, and that's that awesome, and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming out. But before we
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: even close out, I gotta take a bite. You gotta
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: take a bite. Okay, we gotta judge this meal. We
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: gotta see if it's actually going to go into my
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: personal arsenal of meals I make it. I can't have
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: my man over here, the camera guy try it. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: can't make all this stuff and then have these people.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: They'll try it, they'll try it. Okay, all right, let's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: go just we just gotta let's do it first. It's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a little hot. Oh my mm hmm. I mean best meal.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying best meal. You taught. I'll make sure
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you guys all through best meal. Thank you for having
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: me on this show called Thank you so much. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: love this. By the way, this is so cool. People
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: are gonna dig this. Thank you and people people. I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: hope everyone can really draw a lot. I know I've
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: always been impressed with your story and the fact that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you're so humble, and the best part is the fact
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that you can cook. So I'm always looking for an
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: invite oversee your house. Who ever, all right, we'll make
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it happen again. But best best dish, hands down, best
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: dish on Eating While Broke, Yeah, so far, thank you
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: so yeah. I hope someone could top it so then
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I can try it and then everybody can get your
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: recipe in the Eating While Broke cook click and make
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it at home. But by far, the best, most amazing
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: dish ever. Fee, thank you for coming out awesome, Thanks
• 32:23
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