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Nicolas Hulscher, MPH - mRNA, Vaccines, and The COVID Response · World Ablaze with George Fontes

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Okay, well, firstly, thank you for your time.
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I know it's been, you know, a little bit of a struggle trying to get you here just because
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you are extremely busy.
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Honestly, every time I turn around, you're a guest on someone else's show or on the news,
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which is great.
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Showing that people are tapping into your expertise regarding mRNA, COVID, the effects
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thereof, et cetera.
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I wanted to go and read a little bit from your bio, if you're okay, that I pulled from
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the McCullough Foundation, since you are the administrator of the McCullough Foundation.
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For those who don't know, that is, yes, Peter McCullough, Dr. Peter McCullough, which is
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really cool that you are working with him and you're bringing your expertise with you.
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So Nicholas, for those who don't know, I'm just going to read a little bit.
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Nicholas Holscher is an epidemiologist, administrator at the McCullough Foundation, born and raised
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in Michigan.
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So earned a Bachelor of Science in Pre-Health Professional Studies from the Oakland University
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Honors College in 2020, graduating with Institutional and Departmental Honors.
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He went on to receive a Master of Public Health, which, by the way, hats off to you.
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and you specialize in epidemiology from the University of Michigan State of Public Health
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in 2024, and that's when you got your MPH. Is that correct?
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Yes, that's correct.
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And then what was really interesting to me is, you know, you don't have a long career,
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but man, did you do a lot.
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Since 2023, it says here you did 16 peer-reviewed scientific studies,
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which included systematic reviews, original investigations, and case reports,
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which significantly advanced the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine injuries, syndromes,
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and everything else that goes along with that.
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So I just needed to say that so people know who you are or at least get a little bit of a background.
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So that's why I'm very happy that you agreed to be on the show
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because it's like I'm talking to someone who actually has knowledge, which is great.
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So therefore, I want to start here because one of my friends who has another podcast,
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he's more geopolitics and stuff like that.
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He used to be an analyst for the military.
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But his concern was, in doing this with you,
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is he wanted an unbiased assessment explanation of mRNA.
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Too often, it has been very politically biased,
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and especially from those in the medical profession.
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So that's what I'm hoping we get here.
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My political leanings and yours regardless.
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I hope that we can get an unbiased explanation of what actually is mRNA.
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And I would like to start there,
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because I think there's a lot of confusion
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because we only found out about it during the pandemic.
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And that's when everybody became aware of what mRNA may be,
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but we still don't really know.
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There's a lot of assumptions.
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Can you start with explaining that
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so we actually know what the heck it is
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and what we're actually referring to?
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Yes, yeah.
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So when we think of vaccines, right,
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that's like everything that's been injected into our children
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for the past many, many decades, about 100 years, over 100 years.
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vaccines are, you know, when you inject a killed antigen or killed virus or whatever,
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not mRNA, we're not talking about that. When you inject those killed virons or whatever,
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combined with an adjuvant, right, which is usually aluminum. Sometimes they preserve these with
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thimerosal, which is a form of mercury or they used to. That's normal vaccines, right?
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That's it. It's just basically killed virus material.
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And so what happens with mRNA is completely different.
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mRNA is not a vaccine.
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They might claim it's a vaccine.
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It might be called a vaccine in the news.
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It might be called a vaccine by the CDC, but it does not work like a traditional vaccine.
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It is a gene transfer technology.
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it actually meets the definition of a gene therapy. Why do I say that? Well, because
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so how does it work? So let's start with how it works, right? So you have lipid nanoparticles,
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which are little bubbles of basically fat, right? That's what you could call it. So you have these
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lipid nanoparticles, think of them like bubbles, and inside of them is billions of mRNA, modified
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mRNA, messenger ribonucleic acid.
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These bubbles, once it's injected, travel to every single organ system in the body,
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including the heart, including the brain, including the bone marrow, and basically every
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organ system you can think of that's now been confirmed.
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Man, sorry about this.
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My cat is literally throwing my camera around.
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Hey, we're going to leave it in because you're human and we're,
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our schedules have been tight.
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So the fact that you're able to sit down with me, I'm, you know, I get it.
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But please keep going about mRNA because you're saying that how it goes into the body
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and starts spreading to, is it other organs and whatnot?
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Yes, yes.
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So yeah, we'll continue from there.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Sorry, the cat comes in.
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It's like we're talking very serious here.
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I know.
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About these catastrophic harms.
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It's life.
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Yeah, that's what happens.
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All right.
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So, yeah.
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So, we talked about vaccines, right?
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This killed virus and an adjuvant to evoke immune response.
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Those are vaccines.
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Now, we're on gene therapies.
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There's mRNA technology, right?
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So, we talked about the bubbles.
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The bubbles, the banana particles go into every organ system.
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And then once they easily get uptaken into cells because the cells like this material on the outer coating of the lipid nanoparticles.
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So they're going to trick the cells, the cells uptake them, and then it releases modified mRNA, which then the mRNA goes into what's called ribosomes, these small organelles in your cells.
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It goes into these ribosomes in all your organ systems and instructs those cells to produce a toxic, highly toxic, highly pathogenic non-human protein, the spike protein.
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So then you have neurons, you have cardiomyocytes in your heart producing, expressing on the cell's surface non-human toxic proteins.
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So what happens then?
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Well, then you have your own body is going to come and attack those cells, right?
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It doesn't want these foreign invaders.
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And that's why we see things like myocarditis.
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That's why we see endophilial damage, clotting.
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That's why we see many of these issues.
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So you have that auto.
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I'm sorry to interrupt you, but is that literally what goes on then is the body's reaction to these eminens just trying to reject them as a foreign body like it doesn't want it?
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Is that kind of what it's doing?
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Well, that's only one of the ways of damage, right?
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So yeah, we have the own body attacking the cells producing it, but then you have this
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literally toxic protein that will start to circulate in your body, circulate in the bloodstream
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and deposit in vital organ systems.
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And this protein itself is highly damaging to tissues and the body doesn't like it.
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It's a toxin.
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And so you have this circulating, and then you have DNA plasmids that are in these lipid nanoparticles from the manufacturing process that were not cleared out properly.
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And so you have spike encoding DNA, you have SV40 promoter enhancer, which they use at the factory to make this mRNA, and all this genetic material gets deposited.
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And we believe now we have many points of evidence.
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We have many studies now and many laboratory tests that indicate likely genomic integration of some of this material.
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So, yeah, these are not vaccines.
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These are dangerous gene transfer technologies.
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And they did not prevent COVID-19.
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Right.
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So I'll ask one more question in defining this then.
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So you said earlier it was more intended to be like a gene therapy or whatnot or some kind of use for, I guess, changing the genetic code.
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Is that correct?
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Does it affect the genetic code of someone or anybody?
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I guess my question is what was the actual intention of it?
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If it was intended for genetic therapy, what kind of therapy is that?
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And exactly what was the intention of its invention in the first place?
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Right, right.
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So they claim that instructing your body to produce these proteins makes antibodies that
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will protect you from the virus.
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So that was their purpose.
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That's why they call it a vaccine, because they say the antibodies that you produce will
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help prevent you from being infected.
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Like they claimed in 2021, they said you won't get infected.
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Now we have eight studies that show an increased risk of infection.
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Eight studies don't protect you.
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They actually serve as infection promoters.
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So, yeah, it's really a disaster,
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but it does not serve its purpose of protecting people from anything, unfortunately.
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And so, like they claim now, they've been making this mRNA technology for decades.
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BARDA in 2012 launched the Adept P3 program
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where they wanted to make messenger RNA therapeutics
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therapeutics or what they call countermeasures against respiratory viruses or pandemics.
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And so they've been wanting to deploy this for a long period of time. And then,
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you know, this situation in 2020 gave them that chance.
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That's crazy. So it seems like they use the COVID pandemic as an excuse to actually test it on the
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general public. Am I correct in saying that? Yes, that's correct. This was tested in animals before.
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It killed many of them. I'm going to ask you this, Nicholas, and I'm going to be respectful. So please,
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if you think I'm going to interrupt you, just tell me to shut up. Because I've watched one of the
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other interviews you're on. It's like you almost couldn't get a word in and I felt bad for you in
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that situation. I won't say which one that was. But I want to start going through some of these
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questions because you defined it for us. Okay, so now we have a better understanding of that.
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but there's something else that's still a little fuzzy
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because before, and this is something that I read
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so again, we only can believe
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what has been told to us to be the truth, right?
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That's why we rely on people like you.
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So it's been said that before COVID
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that mRNA was seen as a way to cure diseases actually
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and could be used as a way to cure maybe even all diseases
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and so the question being is
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does that still have, is that still something that could be done with mRNA under the right
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circumstances? And could it then also possibly use for curing cancer? I mean, so I guess,
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was it used in the wrong context, you know, when it came to COVID? Or is there still something with
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mRNA that could be used for positive and curing diseases and maybe even cancer? Is that a truth?
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Or is that just a rumor or propaganda or lie that was spread just to make us accept it?
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Right. Well, I would say from the billions of doses that were now injected of messenger RNA technology and the catastrophe that has occurred, I would not trust this technology to work optimally without major side effects for any disease, unfortunately.
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We would think, okay, well, cancer, they're going to be investigating it for cancer.
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They're going to be investigating it for some genetic defects.
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They're going to be investigating it for muscular dystrophy.
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But the problem is that the technology is so – it's just not ready for human use.
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It goes to every organ system.
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There's no targeting mechanism and produces an unlimited, undefined amount of antigen that it tells your body to make.
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And there's no off switch.
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And so you basically just inject these instructions for your entire body to start making foreign proteins.
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Now, for cancer, they might instruct it to make non-foreign proteins, which maybe would have a less side effect profile.
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but this technology has proven its failure for all infectious diseases now
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yeah as they move on to cancer and these other things I don have high hopes for it it been far too catastrophic in the harms we have detected now It has dysregulated the gene expression thousands of gene expressions A recent study we just put
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out did find that. This would probably be the case with even cancer mRNA vaccines. This will
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be the case when now they're pushing AI generated cancer mRNA shots. It appears to just be another
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fraud. You know, they like to push technology, even if it fails, they're making, they make large
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loads of money from it. And, you know, I don't know, maybe I'll be wrong. You know, maybe all
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of a sudden, you know, they'll develop a cancer cure mRNA injection, but...
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It would be nice to be wrong on that one, right?
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yeah yeah you know that appears to be a century away yeah um well so i have what you said earlier
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leads me into this so uh with mrna vaccines being pushed there has been evidence that that the mrna
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vaccine in relation to being used for covet 19 there is now evidence that it did lead to turbo
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cancers? Is that something that is a real finding? Is that true? Yes, it's very real. Unlike what the
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media that's funded by pharmaceutical giants likes to suggest, they claim, they don't suggest,
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they actually declare that turbo cancers are a myth and they don't exist, right? So that's what
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they say but um there's actually a hundred studies um a literature review revealed this a hundred
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studies show there's about 17 distinct mechanisms that these injections may cause or accelerate
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cancers and then a new study which just came out peer-reviewed uh first others palm dr dr merrick
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and it defines COVID-19 mRNA injection induced turbo cancer.
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And so what this is, is literally it's a cancer that kind of accelerates uncharacteristically.
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It wasn't seen before the pandemic.
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And then you have these cancers drastically spread at a very high pace that is just not normal.
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and these individuals unfortunately succumb to this cancer at a much faster pace than a
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classical cancer that may have been caused by an environmental factor, long-term exposure to
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something. These injections, usually many of these people will have a cancer, right? Cancer
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in their body, it's kind of been checked by their immune system and these injections go in,
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dysregulate immune function, cause immune collapse, and then you have this proliferation
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of their existing cancer into a full-blown turbo cancer. And so this is all biologically plausible.
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It's seen in the population level data. We see somebody named Ethical Skeptic. He does very
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great analytical work with the CDC data.
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There's been over 100,000 excess cancer deaths.
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And you can contribute that to this mRNA vaccine?
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Yes, this mRNA and spike,
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specifically actually the spike protein.
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Yeah, spike protein that induces
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appears to be carcinogenic.
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It suppresses tumor suppressor genes
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so your body can't suppress them as well.
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and it literally impairs immune function.
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It appears to induce vaccine acquired immune deficiency or VAIDS
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that's now evidenced by hundreds of studies.
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And so, yeah, it's not good.
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It's not good at all.
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And so what do you say to those who were forced to take this particular vaccine
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in order to keep their jobs?
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And how much more damage were they doing to their bodies, you know,
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and taking all these boosters, like six, seven, eight, nine boosters,
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you know, isn't that evidence in and of itself enough
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that this vaccine didn't even work?
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It's clear evidence it was not working, right?
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First, people claim, the first regulatory agencies claimed
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you only needed, you know, one dose.
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Oh, just take one dose, or these two first doses, the primary series.
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and then all of a sudden they're like oh well now you're gonna need a booster oh now you're
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gonna need another booster no another one another one and it just kept coming yeah some people fell
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for this they were tricked or coerced by mandates or false public health advice that was based on
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basically completely flawed data basically made up lies literally lies actually because they
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didn't know any of the true safety profile. You need about 5 to 15 years for genetic products.
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So to those individuals that took many boosters, the best course of action
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will be to don't take any more boosters. The more boosters you take, shown in a study by
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Shrestha and colleagues, means you have a higher risk of infection per dose, right? So if you get
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four doses, you're at like a 300% increased risk of infection. You know, one dose was not nearly as
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high. So yeah, you want to refrain from booster doses for sure. So there are people, there are
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those who took these mRNA vaccines who feel that they, well, they felt worse, that they didn't
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actually feel better and that somehow it may have affected their immune system because, you know,
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all of a sudden they're getting sick, um, much easier. They're getting, you know, like common
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colds and whatnot that are much harder for them to get over. And, you know, is that, is that a
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side effect? Is that something that can be confirmed to, to be a side effect of the MRNA?
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And the other part to this question is, um, how can someone reverse the damage of the MRNA
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in the vaccine? Like how can their body get rid of these mRNAs?
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Yeah, so that's called post-vaccination syndrome or long vaccine syndrome. It's similar to long
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COVID, but it's induced by the vaccine. And so it appears to be much worse and longer lasting than
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long COVID. But yeah, so it appears that many of the symptoms from that stem from the spike protein
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this toxic protein circulating in the body causing microclotting. And so your blood is not
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circulating properly and many other different issues. And so if you have this high burden of
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this toxic spike protein, you're going to want to clear that out or at least help the body clear it
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out because our body does not have any innate clearing mechanisms to get it out. And so at the
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McCullough Foundation, we identified three compounds. We do have a peer-reviewed study
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published on this, three compounds, natokinase, bromelain, and curcumin. And these have shown
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in the test tube experimentally and in case reports to clear out the spike-induced clots
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and even degrade the spike protein directly. And so that's what we have so far. That's what
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Dr. McCullough recommends to his patients who do have high levels of spike antibodies,
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which is the way of measuring it now. So let's go to that now. To know what your spike protein
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burden is, is right now we do use antibody testing as a proxy. And so usually, you know,
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if you're over a thousand, then there are some risks and, you know, you were likely either
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exposed to COVID or you got the vaccine. And usually those with the vaccine, another study
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came out, and there's a lot of studies coming out. Another study came out that showed vaccinated
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individuals have seven times higher spike antibodies compared to those who just got the
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infection. So it installs much more spike. And so, yeah, clearing these out is critical. That
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McCullough Protocol, base spike detoxification does appear to be a promising method.
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We do need to undergo long-term clinical trials, double-blind placebo-controlled,
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to really assess its efficacy.
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But right now, 80% of the...
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Actually, no, not 80%.
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80% got the mRNA shots.
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99% of the population has been exposed to the synthetic SARS-CoV-2 spike protein,
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either from the infection or from the injections. So the entire population was poisoned, and so we
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need to find answers as soon as possible, and we cannot wait years for these clinical trials. So
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we do have to scramble for these solutions. And one other thing for those who feel terrible
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after their mRNA shot and they don't feel better.
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There's one key thing that needs to happen
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is you have to raise your vitamin D levels
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to adequate levels.
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Most are low.
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There's two studies now that show
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when you raise those vitamin D levels,
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it actually reduces or improves your symptoms
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if you have post-vaccination syndrome.
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That was one study.
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And the other one found it decreases
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severity of myocarditis.
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So what you really want to do is get sunlight, right, to raise those levels because you get all the other benefits of sunlight.
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Thousands of them improves cellular function, improves mitochondrial function.
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So you want to get sunlight as your form of vitamin D if you can, but that is absolutely critical, right?
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If you're not doing anything, you want to pick one thing, that is something that is highly recommended.
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it. Let's talk about the other concerns of mRNA and specifically how it affects our food supply.
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You know, and there's a lot of questions as to whether or not mRNA is transferable. So,
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you know, it's been used in various vaccines, you know, specifically in our meat supply.
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So is that mRNA transferable? Like, will it transfer to humans who are consuming this meat?
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Is that something that has been studied?
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Is that something that can happen?
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And is it something that we should be cautious of or look out for?
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This is completely unknown at this point because it's never been tested.
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But you would think they would test it right before they do such foolish things like this.
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But they don't test it, so we don't know.
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But, you know, I think it would be hard for the lip banana particles and mRNA constructs to survive the cooking process.
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But again, we don't know.
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Now, since if these animals were injected with mRNA, they will be producing these toxic antigens.
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And so you would be consuming these toxic antigens.
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And, you know, there is still a possibility, though, that yes, this mRNA could reach your circulation.
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We just have no idea.
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This has to be immediately tested.
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Now, what's most concerning about the injection of animals is the self-amplifying RNA particle injections by Merck.
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They already rolled this out.
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It's being given by vets all across the country to dogs and cats for various viruses, the most prominent one, including rabies.
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They recommend rabies vaccinations to basically all animals.
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and so now they have a self-amplifying RNA one and this one could most definitely shed onto human
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owners as it self-replicates in your cat or dog and they come and lick you or you know you're
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exposed to their bodily fluids this can probably you know reach your circulation and then the
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self-amplifying RNA will end up in your body and maybe even uptaken into your cells and you
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you will then also be producing rabies antigens.
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And so this is an absolute catastrophe that has to be stopped Okay so let touch on the viral shedding How exactly can the mRNA vaccine for example
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let's say like a kid got the mRNA vaccine and they're around other people.
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So how can that be transferred to other people through viral shedding?
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Like how does that happen?
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yes yes there's a study by sue peters and colleagues that found women in close product
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unvaccinated women in close proximity to vaccinated individuals outside of the household
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did experience an increase in menstrual cycle abnormalities heavier bleeding period delays etc
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They experienced these increased risks when they reported they were within six feet of these vaccinated individuals outside of the household.
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So that's all we have really for shedding studies.
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They haven't really bothered to conduct anything else.
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But we do know that the mRNA technology does disrupt menstrual cycles.
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And so when we see unvaccinated women experiencing these who are in proximity to the vaccinated, that does indicate shedding is indeed real.
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And it appears to be the case.
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Biologically, it makes sense because this so likely what's shedding is is actually the spike protein in what's called exosomes.
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The body appears to encapsulate the spike protein in these hexazomes, and these can likely be exhaled in breath, in saliva, during sexual intercourse.
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This may be able to transmit.
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Now, the mRNA has been found in breast milk.
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And so for babies, for moms that are breastfeeding, this mRNA may be able to transfer to the baby via breast milk.
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And so there's many different routes of transmission, it appears.
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But again, no real study has been conducted on this.
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They just continue to ignore it.
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Okay, so regarding women, there's been reports.
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I'm not sure if these are verified or not,
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but how does mRNA or can mRNA affect a woman's ability to become pregnant?
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How does it affect their decision-making and whether or not they should consider an mRNA vaccine or just not get an mRNA vaccine if they're planning to have a child?
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Yeah, if you want a child, do not.
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Do not take an mRNA injection.
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It is very bad.
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We now have two new studies, recent studies that have come out.
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The first one was in rats.
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But what happened was they injected the rats with mRNA shots and it literally wiped out 60% of their primordial follicles.
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So this is the egg supply woman that's non-renewable.
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It's that base layer they're born with.
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They don't get any more primordial follicles.
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Their mRNA shots wipe out 60% of those, right?
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So yes, this was in rats, okay.
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But it doesn't matter.
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This is a living animal, and these injections are clearly extraordinarily toxic to the reproductive system.
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So, well, you might be thinking, well, is there human data?
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Well, yeah, there is.
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Another recent study came out.
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It is peer-reviewed by Manichae and colleagues.
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They found among 1.3 million women, they found that there was a 33% reduction in successful
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conception rate.
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So 33% reduction in successful pregnancies in vaccinated women compared to the unvaccinated
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population.
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So we are seeing this in humans as well.
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And then we have so many other studies that show risks during pregnancy.
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A study by Thorpe et al. found so many different safety signals looking at the VAERS system for pregnancy,
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including miscarriage, malformations, all sorts of issues during pregnancy as well.
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And we do also know another study came out that found the mRNA does transfer through the placenta of pregnant women, does transfer into the baby.
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And so if you are pregnant and you receive these, the baby will uptake Pfizer-Moderna modified RNA, and it will be producing these toxic proteins, unfortunately.
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And so, yeah, these are not safe for reproductive health whatsoever.
31:02
Thank you for answering those questions that my friends and colleagues and my wife had regarding mRNA and how it may transfer or affect humans or affect all of us.
31:16
But now let's get to the questions that I am personally really, really interested in in terms of the COVID response.
31:24
So, you know, with everything being said about mRNA and how it was not tested, how it has not been proven, can you shed any light on the organizations that were actually behind and pushing this mRNA vaccine during the pandemic?
31:42
even though that it wasn't tested on humans and they more than likely knew that it was not going
31:49
to be effective. Can you tell us who was behind pushing this vaccine, the mRNA vaccine during the
31:57
pandemic, during the COVID pandemic? And do you know for sure which companies were behind this?
32:06
Yeah, so there was many organizations involved. We have identified what's called the biopharmacists
32:12
complex. It's a conglomerate of regulatory agencies, pharmaceutical companies, governments,
32:20
and NGOs, these large nonprofit organizations. And it appears that this conglomerate is central
32:28
to the approval of this. So the major nonprofits include the Gates Foundation. We have organizations
32:37
like the World Economic Forum.
32:40
We have the Rockefeller Foundation.
32:42
We have many of these foundations.
32:44
We have the World Health Organization.
32:46
We have GAVI, the Global Vaccine Alliance.
32:50
We have CEPI, the Center of Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation.
32:58
We have all these organizations that have been pushing this mRNA platform
33:03
since its inception, funding their development, funding new mRNA injections,
33:10
funding their distribution, doing all these key critical things.
33:14
And you think, well, why did they do this?
33:17
Why did they do this?
33:17
Why did the Gates Foundation, who literally thinks there's too many people on Earth
33:23
and wants to reduce population, why would they care about saving people
33:28
when they think we need to reduce the population?
33:30
that makes zero logical sense
33:34
that they would want to actually save people
33:38
it literally doesn't make any sense
33:41
so why would they be very much invested in this technology
33:45
well it appears
33:47
and actually a large proportion of countries
33:52
around the world
33:53
deploy what's called population control policies
33:59
or population control operations where they actually employ policies
34:05
to reduce population growth because they think they have too many people.
34:10
This is real for anybody that doesn't believe this.
34:14
This is what countries do.
34:16
We have China doing it, and we have many other countries doing it.
34:20
And so this population control operations appears to have made its way
34:28
into a global push with these mRNA injections.
34:35
Because now that we know what it does to fertility,
34:37
now that we know what it does to birth rates,
34:40
we are very, very concerned that part of the purpose of this rollout
34:46
may have been population control related.
34:52
So with that being said,
34:55
and you don't have to answer this because I know I'm putting you on the spot,
34:59
but how do you feel as an epidemiologist
35:04
that the COVID response was handled at that time?
35:10
And with that being said also,
35:13
how do you feel about Fauci and how he handled that response?
35:20
Because he was largely responsible for the push,
35:24
to get these mRNA vaccines out there into the public.
35:29
And from what I understand, he even had a patent on his own at the time,
35:33
or maybe he still does.
35:35
Maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong there.
35:37
But as an epidemiologist, what is your thoughts on Fauci
35:41
and how he handled things?
35:43
And I don't know maybe if there's anything that you would have done differently,
35:49
but what is your thoughts on Fauci?
35:51
Fauci has done many things that have broken the law.
35:59
And we'll just say, you know, obviously he's lied about gain-of-function research, lied on their oath.
36:06
He's facing perjury investigations, you know, all that stuff.
36:10
But regarding the COVID pandemic response, you know, he advocated for lockdowns, for the closure of all the schools.
36:21
He told us the mRNA injections were 99% effective.
36:28
He told us we wouldn't get COVID with these injections.
36:32
And so what appears to have happened is as the figurehead for the pandemic response,
36:42
he flat out lied to the entire population of these injections
36:47
while also pushing completely flawed pandemic response policies
36:55
such as lockdowns and masking and mask mandates and all this nonsense.
37:00
And so the fact that he's still walking free from any persecution is quite shocking, right?
37:10
Because you have his involvement with the Wuhan lab and creation of SARS-CoV-2 itself, as well as the mRNA injections.
37:20
I mean, this is very bad stuff, right?
37:24
This isn't something that most people could kind of walk around free after doing.
37:29
And so what's now happened here in America is the Vires Law Group has actually filed criminal referral requests in seven different states against Anthony Fauci and many other public health officials for –
37:59
for their actions and policies implemented during the pandemic, including these hospital protocols, suppression of early treatment, and all these things.
38:13
And so there's just so many things to unpack with the pandemic response.
38:18
But many of it, I think accountability is now, you know, people are calling for accountability,
38:26
specifically Fauci.
38:29
But I don't know.
38:29
We'll just have to wait and see.
38:31
Right.
38:33
So how would you, I mean, you as an epidemiologist, you and your peers, it's always easy to look
38:41
back and say, I would have done it this way.
38:42
But how should it have been handled?
38:45
How do you think we should have handled that?
38:48
Well, first of all, there should not have been lockdowns.
38:53
There should not have been any lockdowns.
38:56
That caused immense harm just by itself right Because you had people at home isolated right They weren interacting with their friends They weren learning at school
39:09
They were just stuck at home on a computer looking at a screen.
39:14
This was disastrous for the mental health aspect of the population,
39:21
as well as the economic aspect.
39:24
It decimated small businesses.
39:26
It was horrible.
39:28
and it didn't prevent anything, right?
39:31
I mean, lockdowns will not stop anything from happening
39:35
unless you keep something locked down forever, right?
39:38
And that doesn't happen.
39:40
Any pathogen will always find its way in.
39:43
You might be able to delay it with a lockdown,
39:46
but that's it, right?
39:48
Once you lift these restrictions,
39:50
it's going to come pouring in.
39:52
So they're absolutely useless, absolutely useless.
39:55
Unless there is a zombie outbreak,
39:57
okay fine I get that there's rumors of that too though what was that I said there's rumors of that
40:04
too though oh yeah exactly you know honestly they've probably developed pathogens and laboratories
40:12
that could induce zombie-like behavior in people that would not surprise me one bit because there
40:18
are thousands of these laboratories that are manipulating pathogens and we don't know what's
40:23
many of these labs at all.
40:27
I know we don't have a ton more time as we go on, but what you're saying really, it makes
40:35
me ask this question here.
40:38
When we're talking about the public health community and we're talking about other epidemiologists,
40:45
why hasn't there been more people coming together to stand up against this and go after bad
40:51
actors like Fauci, for example?
40:52
and I'm only using Fauci's name because he's the most recognizable.
40:56
I'm not trying to just zero in on him.
40:58
But why aren't there more people coming out
41:01
and speaking out against these bad actors
41:03
that have these very bad intentions
41:06
and how to handle the population
41:08
and how to handle vaccines too,
41:12
which I got another question for you on that.
41:14
But what do you think of that?
41:15
Why are there not more people coming together
41:16
and really chastising and saying,
41:19
no, that's bad.
41:19
This is not how this is supposed to be.
41:20
and there does have to be justice administered based on their actions.
41:25
They should be held accountable.
41:26
Why are there not more people stepping up?
41:28
Right.
41:28
I think one of the reasons is people have just been demoralized, right?
41:33
I mean, we've been hit with so many things now in the past five years.
41:37
We've called for the removal of these shots.
41:40
We've called for accountability.
41:41
We've called for this and for that.
41:44
And, you know, it has led to nothing, right?
41:47
The mRNA shots are still on the market, right?
41:50
These people are still running around free.
41:52
I mean Fauci's running around free after clearly, clearly lying to Congress.
41:58
I mean you only need one brain cell.
42:00
A kindergartner could tell you if they saw his statements here and his statements to Congress here.
42:05
A kindergartner would tell you, yeah, he broke the law.
42:10
And they don't face any accountability.
42:11
So people are just tired.
42:13
They're like, okay, they're never going to face it.
42:15
And it's a sort of fatigue, it appears, that has incurred and people just don't want to talk about it anymore.
42:24
They've been demoralized.
42:26
And to change that, I think what would turn the tide would be finally at least one little drip of accountability.
42:42
right if finally at least yeah just something happens something Fauci just for perjury even
42:49
though he's accused of you know many other crimes at least one thing and I think that would ignite a
42:55
spark where people would finally you know rise up again and start to call for true accountability
43:01
okay so yeah so with that I'd lie I have two questions then because you're sparking
43:07
sparking some, you know, making the hamster run up here. So let's talk about this. And with the
43:17
new Trump administration, RFK Jr. at the helm here at Health and Human Services, right? Do you think
43:24
vaccine efficacy and how they're handled and standards of testing will improve? Or has a lot
43:32
of this just been window dressing or theater, you know, just to get support and likes and whatever
43:37
the hell it is that they need to look good to the public. Do you see a change from your perspective
43:43
and through your work? Have you seen a change with this new administration and how vaccines are
43:48
handled and the standards? You know, most of what's happened so far seems to have been hindered by,
43:58
political games, right?
44:01
It does appear that most of this is not enough actions being taken,
44:07
not enough research is being initiated.
44:11
It appears that they're staying in the bounds
44:16
of what they think they can do politically.
44:20
And so, yeah, at my level, we're still researching the mRNA harms.
44:25
We're uncovering crazy things that we would never have thought we would have uncovered.
44:31
And the federal government hasn't done a thing, right?
44:34
I mean, we're sitting here.
44:35
They've been there for many, many months.
44:37
This new administration, we have not seen anything.
44:41
We haven't seen them develop a test to look for genomic integration or spike in people.
44:47
We haven't seen them develop therapeutics to help the millions of injured.
44:51
We haven't seen anything tangible.
44:54
We still see mRNA shots being allowed to be given to six-month-old infants.
45:01
With that being said, Nicholas, what do you think about them trying to mandate these COVID mRNA vaccines to children attending school?
45:10
Like it's supposed to be now a part of the regimen.
45:13
I don't know if it passed because the new cycle moves so fast.
45:16
I hear these things.
45:18
I haven't confirmed it because I've been talking to so many other people with different issues.
45:21
Is that a thing that has passed?
45:22
And what's your thoughts on it?
45:24
Yeah, so I believe there are some states that were trying to pass that.
45:30
And federally, they did have the mRNA shots in the recommended vaccination schedule.
45:37
But some schools actually did mandate it for attendance.
45:44
Most of that appears to have gone away.
45:47
You know, most schools, most places, you won't need an mRNA injection to attend anymore.
45:54
But regardless, so actually in May, RFK did issue a directive to stop recommending him to healthy, you know, little babies and healthy pregnant women.
46:08
So he did try at least do something.
46:11
But it appears that he can't really do anything, right?
46:15
He did that.
46:16
But, you know, they're still on the childhood schedule.
46:18
All the CDC did was put a note that says, talk to your health care provider.
46:22
and then many of these healthcare providers
46:25
are under mass psychosis still
46:27
they will still be administering
46:29
these gene therapies to infants
46:31
so we're in such a
46:33
bad situation right now
46:36
it appears that whoever
46:37
honestly whoever was HHS
46:39
secretary really couldn't
46:41
really do anything
46:43
we know RFK though based on
46:45
decades of what
46:47
he's spoken about we know he knows
46:49
these are bad and dangerous and deadly
46:51
even many of the childhood vaccines are dangerous.
46:55
We know he knows that,
46:57
but it appears he can only do so much as HHS secretary
47:04
and within an administration that still does like mRNA technology.
47:10
He cannot act like a king, it appears, as we wanted him to.
47:16
Right.
47:17
But what you're saying is what's sad when people fear it
47:20
is it's still politics before people.
47:22
You know, it's backdoor relationships before the public.
47:26
And that's what we don't want to hear.
47:28
That's not what we're expecting.
47:30
And I'm not trying to make this political,
47:31
but, you know, with the change of the guard,
47:33
with the new administration who ran on,
47:35
hey, we're going to take care of this.
47:36
We're going to look into what happened during COVID.
47:37
We know that there's issues with these vaccines
47:39
and we're going to get right on top of it.
47:41
RFK Jr., that is exactly what he said the whole time
47:44
for many years, even before he came over to Trump's side.
47:46
and it's not
47:48
partisan because he's still a Democrat
47:51
so we can't pin this on Republican
47:53
versus Democrat. There's something else going
47:55
on that's stopping them from making the move and changing
47:57
things. So
47:58
it's good to hear what you're saying because from your perspective
48:01
and working on the other side of things
48:03
you're doing these studies and you're like, yeah but based
48:05
on this, why are we still doing this?
48:07
It doesn't make any sense.
48:09
You actually have studies that show there
48:11
is harm and yet there's
48:13
nothing being done for the betterment
48:15
of society outside of maybe implementing the policies and plans that you said earlier,
48:20
which maybe this is just about population control.
48:22
I don't know.
48:24
One more question for you.
48:26
And this has to do with newborns.
48:28
And this is something that I've always wondered.
48:30
Does a newborn really need the plethora of vaccines that is administered as soon as they're
48:35
born?
48:37
Short answer, no.
48:39
No.
48:39
A human baby that has just been born, enters this world, does not need Merck and Pfizer and does not need pharmaceutical injections in their bloodstream when they're born.
48:58
They just don't.
49:00
It's dangerous.
49:01
actually now they they're the cdc's being sued for pushing an illegal and unconstitutional 72
49:09
dose hyper vaccination schedule 72 doses yep it's about 72 doses from birth to 18
49:18
and so yeah and none of this was tested in combination nobody knows the safety profile
49:25
when you give them together.
49:27
It's completely unknown.
49:30
And so...
49:31
Hold on.
49:31
So aside from just 72,
49:33
they didn't even do any studies
49:34
to see how they would interact with each other,
49:36
these vaccines?
49:37
No, none.
49:38
What?
49:40
Yeah, they just assume.
49:41
They've gotten away with it for so long.
49:43
Nobody's questioned it.
49:44
And they've just gotten away.
49:46
And it's been fine.
49:47
And so now that people are aware
49:49
that this is the case,
49:51
they're in a lot of...
49:53
They're going to face a lot of public backlash.
49:55
And these pharmaceutical companies, due to all these deals,
49:59
you can't hold them accountable.
50:01
They can't be sued.
50:04
Do you know why that is?
50:06
What clause there is and the justification for that?
50:09
Why can't we hold them accountable?
50:11
They know what they put together.
50:12
You know what I'm saying?
50:13
Yeah, yeah.
50:14
The 1986 National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act,
50:20
once that was implemented, that gave pharma companies liability
50:25
protection, complete liability protection from vaccine injury from their products.
50:31
So that's why you see before 1986, there was only about seven vaccines given to kids, right?
50:38
You didn't see that many autistic kids.
50:40
You didn't see many profound autism cases where they needed, you know, toilet assistance,
50:47
et cetera.
50:48
And then after 1986, when they got these shields from liability, you see the dose number skyrocket into space.
50:59
And they start deploying so many different types of vaccines for every virus they can think of.
51:06
And they don't face any accountability due to this act.
51:09
Now, Representative Gosar has introduced legislation to try and repeal this and finally allow people to sue vaccine companies when they're injured.
51:24
And so there are legislative efforts underway, thankfully, to reverse this.
51:30
I know that's been happening in Europe.
51:33
There have been cases where they've been going after these vaccine or pharmaceutical companies for harm.
51:36
and we really haven't been doing it in the USA quite yet.
51:40
So yeah, it's a really sad thing.
51:44
The vaccines in general, like I said, we don't need so many.
51:48
72 vaccine schedule from birth through 18 is insane.
51:53
I don't understand that.
51:56
And they're not even testing how they interact with each other either.
51:59
And that's the one thing, watching the clock here, so
52:04
You just initiated another very important question because this is something that's
52:11
come up in the past.
52:13
Autism.
52:14
So is there verifiable studies that links vaccines or the amount of vaccines and their
52:20
interactions to autism?
52:22
And if so, why are we not hearing about these?
52:26
Yeah, there's over 10 studies that do find an association between vaccines and autism.
52:33
the most recent ones by moss and and colleagues it was over you know 40 000
52:40
medicaid recipients and they found you know they found pretty large increases in risk in those who
52:49
received childhood vaccines compared to the unvaccinated children for many different
52:55
neurodevelopmental disorders not just autism but tics tics as well as adhd right and so
53:02
we do have evidence of it and you know hhs says there's going to be a report coming out
53:09
you know in september or october where they're going to see where they're going to tell us if
53:15
they found an association i don't know you know what what they're going to come out with but here
53:21
at the mccullough foundation we are actually doing our own comprehensive study on this link between
53:27
vaccination and autism. And hopefully that'll be completed within the next few months here as well.
53:33
And so, yeah, there's been many studies documented in association. I mean, you can find all of them
53:39
on our sub stack, the focal points.com. We do report on them and yeah, this cannot be ruled out.
53:48
So is it verifiable yet though? As you know, like there's been studies, but has it been verified
53:53
that it is an actual link between autism and these vaccines?
53:55
an actual causal link has yet to be defined now um the father talking you know now it appears that
54:07
it's definitely you know it can indeed induce autism in people but i guess as as an epidemiologist
54:14
we can't say based on the studies there that there's a causal link yet but yeah i mean you
54:20
have these parents, they go and get their child the MMR and then they bring them home and then
54:26
they have seizures and then they never the same since We have so many cases of this And so yeah when you inject toxins large numbers of toxins neurotoxins aluminum
54:39
and you hyperactivate the immune system and you cause seizures, febrile seizures and brain damage,
54:47
it's not unexpected that you'll see these neurodevelopmental disorders.
54:51
So with all this being said, how can the public once again trust vaccines?
54:55
Because there are good vaccines.
54:57
that are proven to have worked?
55:00
Or in your opinion, are there any vaccines,
55:03
like are all vaccines kind of bad in their own way?
55:05
Do they all have a side effect?
55:07
Or are there really like, hey, no, there's good ones
55:10
and we should use those and have them administered.
55:14
So if that's the case, then how do we get the public
55:17
to trust these type of vaccines that have been proven
55:21
and trust vaccination in general?
55:24
Right.
55:24
Well, yeah, some vaccines could have contributed to the reduction in some infectious diseases.
55:31
But actually, many of the reductions in infectious disease over the past 100 years were due to improvements in sanitation and care.
55:41
And some of it is contributed to some of these vaccinations.
55:47
but the thing I want to say is none of the current childhood vaccines were actually properly safety
55:56
tested is the thing right so none of them undergone long-term placebo-controlled trials
56:02
you know the follow-up time is it ranges from about two days for a lot of these vaccines
56:09
in these studies to a few months but yeah none of them have followed these children long-term
56:16
after administration.
56:18
And again, none of them have been tested in combination.
56:20
So we actually do not know the full true safety profile
56:25
of these vaccines.
56:27
And so, you know.
56:29
For how long, Nicholas, should these vaccines be tested?
56:32
Like what's the length of time
56:34
that they should be doing this study
56:36
to determine the long-term effects of the vaccines
56:38
when they're about to put out a new one or test?
56:42
Yeah, they should be following these children
56:43
in these studies for years, right?
56:45
they can write like three years five years like what what do you recommend the longer the better
56:51
right they should keep record of these children in these studies and then you know follow keep
56:56
them on record for about 10 years that would be very helpful and then they can publish another study in about 10 years documented documenting what happened to these children But they don They just kind of lose track of them All right two days
57:10
We don't care what happens to them after that.
57:13
That's what's happened.
57:14
And so we just don't know what's happening to these children.
57:18
And for how long has that been going on?
57:21
Forever.
57:22
Really?
57:23
Since the beginning of time?
57:25
Yeah.
57:25
Yeah, I mean, the first vaccines were just injecting, like taking somebody's smallpox lesion and taking material out of that and then injecting that lesion material into somebody else.
57:39
So that's what they were used to be doing.
57:42
And yeah, now obviously that's changed.
57:45
Right.
57:45
I guess my question is like, for how long has this been going on where they weren't doing long-term studies on these vaccinations?
57:52
Yeah.
57:53
Now, for all the vaccines now on the market, none of them.
57:58
None of them.
57:59
There's not any proper long term.
58:00
Can we give a defined date, like since 1988, 90?
58:05
Or is there a certain list of vaccines, like certain vaccines themselves,
58:09
that are kind of fall into that category of not being properly tested?
58:16
I'm telling you, there's a list.
58:19
I'm not trying to put you on the spot.
58:20
I'm just wondering if there's something we could reference.
58:23
so that anybody who's watching, if they did want to do this research,
58:27
they can go, oh, okay, there's this list that I can look at.
58:30
And these certain vaccines, for example, they haven't been tested long enough
58:34
or been out there long enough to really determine whether they're effective
58:36
or what side effects they have.
58:38
So that's what I'm trying to get out of here.
58:39
I'm not trying to put you in a corner here.
58:42
Yeah, no, no.
58:42
The list is on the Informed Consent Action Network.
58:46
Go to their website.
58:48
They have a list of all the vaccines,
58:50
and it shows you how long did they follow them up for.
58:54
Was there a placebo group?
58:56
And you'll see the list.
58:57
It's all red, red boxes, which means they weren't adequate.
59:00
And so that's what's happened with all of these.
59:03
Now, again, in the past, you know, like I guess in the 60s, 70s,
59:08
you know, I don't know.
59:10
Honestly, I don't know if those were long-term or not.
59:12
But, you know, that doesn't matter at this point
59:14
because the current ones being administered to everybody are not, right?
59:19
And so we just, yeah, we just have to.
59:22
What was the name of that website again, Nick?
59:24
What was the name of that again, Nicholas?
59:26
Informed Consent Action Network ICANN If you look up ICANN it should show up And they do have a chart on their website that shows what happening I believe they actually sued the FDA for some stuff They
59:42
a pretty good, decent organization. Interesting. Well, I think we're getting to the end of your
59:49
time with me. So why don't you tell everybody about the foundation, where they can find more
59:55
information about you, the studies, et cetera. Yes. Yes. You can follow me on X at NIC Holscher.
1:00:03
I will be posting basically every day. That's where you'll find all the breaking stuff.
1:00:09
But in detail, if you want to see all these studies in detail and a full breakdown of them,
1:00:15
you have to go to our sub stack, thefocalpoints.com, and you will find it all there. You'll see
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Dr. McCullough's posts, author John Leak's posts.
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That's the place to go as well.
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And one more thing, the McCullough Foundation,
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McCulloughFND.com.
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You got your cat there again.
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Yeah.
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Sorry, McCulloughFND.org.
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That's how you can visit the McCullough Foundation.
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You'll see our operations,
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what we kind of do on a daily basis.
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And we do need support, right?
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We do operate on donations and contributions.
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So if you want to support our research, we've published over 20 scientific studies in the
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past two years exposing the harms of these shots where the government failed to do so.
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We're doing research on treatment protocols.
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We're doing all this stuff.
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So yeah, if you want to consider supporting our work, please visit the website, McCulloughFND.org.
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Awesome.
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Thank you for your time and the information.
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and uh you know hopefully we can stay in touch i i i do want to um possibly have you on again
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down the road as things develop but again thanks for your time i know you're super busy
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and i really appreciate everything that you've had said thanks for having me yes sir thank you
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Shhh