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Kamala Crushes It · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jon Lovett.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Tom Evitor.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: It's our final night here at the convention. Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 1: just gave her speech. We're going to talk all about it.
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  Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about what comes next. We
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  Speaker 1: also had a drop-in by our friend and our governor,
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  Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, fellow podcaster, who's known Kamala forever, so we're
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  Speaker 1: going to hear that afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get right into it, guys. This was obviously
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  Speaker 1: the biggest speech of Kamala Harris's life, and she killed it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's listen.
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  Speaker 5: And so, on behalf of the people, on behalf of
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  Speaker 5: every American, regardless of party, race, gender, or the language
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  Speaker 5: your grandmother speaks, on behalf of my mother and everyone
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  Speaker 5: who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey,
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  Speaker 5: on behalf of of Americans like the people I grew
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  Speaker 5: up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams, and
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  Speaker 5: look out for one another. On behalf of everyone whose
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  Speaker 5: story could only be written in the greatest nation on Earth,
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  Speaker 5: I accept your nomination.
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  Speaker 3: To be President of the United States of America.
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  Speaker 6: We got balloons nice oh my god what a what
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  Speaker 6: a fun thing what a what production quality look.
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  Speaker 7: At us self-important podcasters i don't think so yeah we're
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  Speaker 7: the nominees i just want you guys to know we've
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  Speaker 7: all been blowing up balloons for an hour yeah you
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  Speaker 7: know when it paid off yeah it paid off that
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  Speaker 7: was a beautiful since you blow up.
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  Speaker 2: I blew up like three or four.
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't blow up a single one.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Dale over here fact-checking you. What's going on with that?
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: What did you guys think of the speech? He's doing hands.
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  Speaker 2: That means he liked it. First of all, I just.
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  Speaker 7: Less than two months ago, Joe Biden debated Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 7: 30 days ago, Joe Biden steps aside.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of internal.
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  Speaker 7: agita and angst about really about what would come if
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  Speaker 7: Joe Biden stepped aside. And it is, first of all,
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  Speaker 7: incredible what the campaign has done, but also the way
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  Speaker 7: in which like everyone put their hopes in Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 7: and Kamala Harris has not just performed as well as
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  Speaker 7: her most beloved fans have hoped she would.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's fair to say she's exceeded everyone's expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Even the KHAB's like, whoa. The amount of pressure on
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  Speaker 2: her shoulders. You can do this.
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  Speaker 7: The amount she was expected to do in such a
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  Speaker 7: short time. The stage, the pressure, the attention, the spotlight
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  Speaker 7: that fell on her. And to see someone deliver as
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  Speaker 7: well a speech as I think I've ever seen a
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  Speaker 7: candidate do at a convention is incredible.
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  Speaker 6: We're all staffers at heart. Campaign staff, DNC staff.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. How did they do this?
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  Speaker 6: How did you take a convention that was Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 6: convention 40 days ago and turn it.
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  Speaker 2: Into Kamala Harris' convention? It's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Incredible.
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  Speaker 2: You asked about the speech, though. Dan, you have something
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  Speaker 2: smart to say.
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  Speaker 8: She absolutely crushed it, right? She was under the most
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  Speaker 8: immense pressure possible. She is a largely unknown figure to
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  Speaker 8: the public. She has this one moment where she's going
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  Speaker 8: to have tens of millions of people watching her. And
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  Speaker 8: she delivered a great speech. She delivered a concise speech.
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  Speaker 8: She delivered it with strength and power and charisma and
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  Speaker 8: with her laugh and her smile. And it was just,
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  Speaker 8: she knocked it out of the park, both in terms
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  Speaker 8: of the speech itself, how it was written, the delivery
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  Speaker 8: of the speech, and also the political strategy behind the speech, right?
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  Speaker 8: She knew, like, if you had asked me in the beginning, like,
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  Speaker 8: what are the five things she has to do? She
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  Speaker 8: did those five things, right? And did them effectively. I
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  Speaker 8: could not have been more impressed. And I cannot leave
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  Speaker 8: this speech being more fired up about her campaign and
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  Speaker 8: her next president.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I will say a lot of exuberance
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  Speaker 1: right now. It's not like we're saying she's definitely going
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  Speaker 1: to win.
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  Speaker 2: This is a fight. This is a very close race.
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  Speaker 1: But from where we were to where we are now
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  Speaker 1: and the chance that she has given the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 1: to win this election, it's extraordinary. Like, I have never
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  Speaker 1: seen anyone in political life step up in a way
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  Speaker 1: that she stepped up in this time frame under this pressure.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just, it's extraordinary to see. And I also
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  Speaker 1: think there's a moment, we've all seen candidates, we've all
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  Speaker 1: worked for candidates, and they're running for president, and you wonder, like,
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  Speaker 1: when do they go from being a candidate that you know,
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  Speaker 1: and a senator, a governor, a house rep, whoever they
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  Speaker 1: may be, to someone you can see being president?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She looked, maybe, and sounded... more presidential in this convention speech,
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  Speaker 1: in this nomination speech, than almost any other candidate I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen accept the nomination. And for all the, like,
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  Speaker 1: will the country elect a woman president? Will the country
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  Speaker 1: elect the first black woman president? Like, it's just, she
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  Speaker 1: sort of, like, pushed all of that aside in this
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  Speaker 1: speech and just, like, gave her presentation, her delivery, her
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  Speaker 1: confidence was just, it was a sight to behold.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but both Kamala Harris and Tim Walz were so
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  Speaker 6: confident and comfortable in their delivery of the speech.
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  Speaker 2: Both speeches were beautifully written.
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  Speaker 6: Shout out to them for the amount of time they
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  Speaker 6: put into these remarks and also their speechwriters and all
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  Speaker 6: the people who worked on these speeches. But the way
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  Speaker 6: they both just kind of got into the speeches, got
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  Speaker 6: more comfortable as they went along, had the crowd wrapped.
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  Speaker 6: There were periods where she got enormous applause and the
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  Speaker 6: signs were waving and people were chanting, but there were
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  Speaker 6: periods of people just listening with rapt attention.
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  Speaker 4: Amazing.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, Democrats tend to do, like, one of three things, right?
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  Speaker 8: They either do Kennedy karaoke, Clinton karaoke, or Obama karaoke.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: And both Walls and Kamala Harris deliver these speeches, like,
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  Speaker 8: with strength and power and all of that, but with
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  Speaker 8: an authenticity, right?
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  Speaker 3: That was just, like, very them the whole way, which.
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  Speaker 8: Is such a hard thing to do when you... Especially
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  Speaker 8: for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, who are not fully
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  Speaker 8: formed candidates, right?
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  Speaker 3: They just got into the... Tim Walls has been in
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  Speaker 3: this for, like, 10 days, and she's been.
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  Speaker 2: In it for 30 days. There's something.
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  Speaker 7: both with Walls and with Harris, that moment we played
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  Speaker 7: had it. There's a vulnerability in her voice, which talks.
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  Speaker 2: About this is the greatest country on earth.
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  Speaker 7: There is something really beautiful about the fact that these
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  Speaker 7: aren't two people who set out years ago to get
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  Speaker 7: to this point today, that they were called upon. Both
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  Speaker 7: of them were called upon. They were elevated by Kamala
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  Speaker 7: choosing Tim Walz and by the party having this big
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  Speaker 7: debate and deciding they wanted.
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  Speaker 2: to make this change.
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  Speaker 7: And the fact that they were drafted in a way
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  Speaker 7: and are rising to the moment, and it's not driven
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  Speaker 7: by their personal ambitions, but actually just a love of country,
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  Speaker 7: like really carries through. And the fact that they're willing
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  Speaker 7: to say, like, it was unlikely that I would be here,
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  Speaker 7: that I'm, I wasn't expecting to be here, that like,
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  Speaker 7: it makes them on our team as opposed to us
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  Speaker 7: being on their team in a way that I really like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So let's get into the As she said at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, when everyone was just applauding and applauding and applauding,
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  Speaker 1: she's like, all right, we got some stuff to do.
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  Speaker 2: We got some business to do. She had two big jobs.
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  Speaker 1: She had to make the case for herself and reintroduce
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  Speaker 1: herself to the American people. And she also had to
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  Speaker 1: make the case against Donald Trump. Let's start with the
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  Speaker 1: case she made for herself.
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  Speaker 5: And she taught Maya and me a lesson that Michelle
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  Speaker 5: mentioned the other night. She taught us to never complain
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  Speaker 5: about injustice, but do something about it.
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  Speaker 2: Do something about it.
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  Speaker 5: That was my mother. And she taught us, and she always,
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  Speaker 5: she also taught us, and she also taught us, and
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  Speaker 5: never do anything half-assed. It is now our turn to
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  Speaker 5: do what generations before us have done, guided by optimism
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  Speaker 5: and faith. to fight for this country we love, to
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  Speaker 5: fight for the ideals we cherish, and to uphold the
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  Speaker 5: awesome responsibility that comes with the greatest privilege on Earth,
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  Speaker 5: the privilege and pride of being an American. So let's
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  Speaker 5: get out there. Let's fight for it. Let's get out there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's vote for it.
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  Speaker 5: And together, let us write the next great chapter in
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  Speaker 5: the most extraordinary story ever told. Thank you. God bless you,
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  Speaker 5: and may God bless the United States of America.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you all.
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  Speaker 1: So she spent a lot of time at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the speech telling her story, talking about her upbringing,
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  Speaker 1: her parents. I thought that the speech was infused with values, again,
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  Speaker 1: in the best sense of the word, not the consultant
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  Speaker 1: sense of the word, like talking about what actually drives her,
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  Speaker 1: what her family was like. And I thought that the
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  Speaker 1: way that she sort of transitioned into the policy section
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  Speaker 1: in terms of like domestic policy, talking about the economy,
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  Speaker 1: she sort of transitioned by talking about like you know,
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  Speaker 1: how her parents raised her, how her mom raised her.
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  Speaker 1: What did you guys think about how she talked about herself,
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  Speaker 1: her story at the beginning of the speech, Tommy?
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  Speaker 6: I just think it's such a better way to do it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you can't just say, this is my platform.
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  Speaker 6: These are my plans. You have to say, this is
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  Speaker 6: who I am. This is who raised me. This is
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  Speaker 6: where I came from. And this is how that origin
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  Speaker 6: story informed my values and what I care about and
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  Speaker 6: therefore who I will fight for.
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  Speaker 2: And then you can talk through what your policy plank was.
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  Speaker 6: And what I loved about that clip there is we
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  Speaker 6: know that Donald Trump is going to try to say
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  Speaker 6: she's not American, that she's other. There's people doing the
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  Speaker 6: birther shit to her. And for her to say the
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  Speaker 6: greatest privilege on this earth is to be an American
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  Speaker 6: was just such a it's just nice to see.
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  Speaker 2: Democrats taking back patriotism in that way.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I could not agree more. I think this is
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  Speaker 8: one of the most patriotic speeches ever delivered by a nominee.
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  Speaker 8: And it is, I mean, they're all of the Obama
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  Speaker 8: parallels are overly facile, right? Because of her race, because
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  Speaker 8: of her name. But one thing that is very similar
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  Speaker 8: in their approach to politics is telling, making their story
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  Speaker 8: a part of the American story. And cause she is
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  Speaker 8: the daughter of two immigrants, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is the, and Oprah pointed this out last night.
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  Speaker 8: And that is the, that is the ultimate part American
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  Speaker 8: story right there. And the way her, that her values
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  Speaker 8: are Americanized. And it's often, it is often true that
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  Speaker 8: immigrants and the children of immigrants are some of the
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  Speaker 8: most patriotic Americans because they truly understand the power of
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  Speaker 8: this country, of the American dream. And the way she
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  Speaker 8: did that, because she knows if you turn on TV
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  Speaker 8: right now in Arizona or Michigan or Pennsylvania and the
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  Speaker 8: other states, the entire goal of the Republican Party is
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  Speaker 8: to define her outside of the American mainstream. And the
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  Speaker 8: way in which she told her story in the context
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  Speaker 8: of the American story today is the exact way in
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  Speaker 8: which you combat that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I was thinking about it when she was talking about
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  Speaker 7: that how after her parents died, separated, that she moved
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  Speaker 7: around a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And I was, you know, Tim Walz. One of the
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  Speaker 2: places happened to be Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Who knew? Smart, smart place for, for her to have
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  Speaker 2: had some time. Move to swing States kids.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Good move.
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  Speaker 2: But, but like Tim Walz, like he, he isn't that polished.
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  Speaker 2: He just isn't.
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  Speaker 7: And Kamala Harris to her great credit, like she has polished.
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  Speaker 7: She just is like, she comes off as incredibly smart,
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  Speaker 7: incredibly sharp, sophisticated and, uh, serious. And I, I think
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  Speaker 7: that like, you don't get from her like, Hey, like
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  Speaker 7: I had hard times in my childhood. Like we moved
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  Speaker 7: around a lot. Like I had to make new friends.
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  Speaker 7: I had to go to new places.
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  Speaker 2: Talks about how her mom always had them on a budget.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And I just think like that isn't what naturally you don't,
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  Speaker 7: you naturally get that from her in part because of,
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  Speaker 7: I think how, um, in ferociously intelligent she is and how,
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  Speaker 7: how serious she is.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's just a, really humanizing part of
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  Speaker 2: the speech.
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  Speaker 1: The voters who are undecided, who have heard good things
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  Speaker 1: about Kamala Harris, or maybe not sure, they are wondering,
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  Speaker 1: you see this in focus groups, you see this in polling, like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well, what's her plan?
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  Speaker 2: What's she going to do for me?
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  Speaker 1: To get that message across is more than just giving
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  Speaker 1: out a white paper and policy. It's talking about your
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  Speaker 1: values and why you fight for these things. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought that You know, she's done this since she ran
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  Speaker 1: in 2020. She talks about, like, I've only had one
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  Speaker 1: client my entire life, the people. She talks about Kamala
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  Speaker 1: Harris for the people. I think it was really effective
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  Speaker 1: tonight where she talked about how she's always fought for people.
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  Speaker 1: And then she talked about her record. And her record
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  Speaker 1: was very, the way that she talked about her record
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  Speaker 1: as attorney general, district attorney, was very, it was almost
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  Speaker 1: very Liz Warren, Elizabeth Warren. It was like talking about
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  Speaker 1: taking on the bank's. talking about taking on people who've
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  Speaker 1: scammed veterans, who've scammed for-profit colleges, scammed students. And so
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was really effective. And then it was
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  Speaker 1: interesting that she also, there was a nod at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: She said, I know there's a lot of people of
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  Speaker 1: different political persuasions listening to this, and I'll be a
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  Speaker 1: president who is realistic, practical, common sense, which I thought
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  Speaker 1: was a very effective way of pushing back against the, like,
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  Speaker 1: she's a radical commie. There's no way, if you watch
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  Speaker 1: the speech, you think that she was a radical commie.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I think she did that with, and especially in
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  Speaker 1: the econ section too. And, um, along with saying that
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  Speaker 1: her mom kept them on a budget, they were middle class.
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  Speaker 1: She taught us that opportunity is not available to everyone
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  Speaker 1: and that you've got to fight for it. And then
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  Speaker 1: she gets into Trump wanting to give a big tax
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  Speaker 1: cut to the rich and raising taxes on people through
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  Speaker 1: tariffs with the Trump tax. And she wants to cut
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  Speaker 1: taxes for people, which got a huge applause line. It
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  Speaker 1: was a really great, effective way to do the econ section,
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  Speaker 1: I thought.
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  Speaker 8: I would make an educated guess that one of the
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  Speaker 8: central strategic priorities of this speech and this campaign is
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  Speaker 8: is to beat Trump on the measure of who fights
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  Speaker 8: for people like you. And in recent polling, that measure
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  Speaker 8: is close to tied, or behind by a couple points.
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  Speaker 8: And she has to win that by a few points,
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  Speaker 8: or maybe more to win. And that was throughout the speech.
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  Speaker 8: All of that policy, it was not a laundry list.
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  Speaker 8: It was not trying to get some Brookings Institution stamp
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  Speaker 8: of approval at the end. It was to use the
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  Speaker 8: policy to show people that she will fight for them.
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  Speaker 8: Which takes discipline, right?
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  Speaker 7: There's also, like, the campaign has talked about, like, building wealth,
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  Speaker 7: building generational wealth.
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  Speaker 2: And she talked about entrepreneurs, she talked about founders.
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  Speaker 7: The one part that did feel like the most sort of,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, message testy or like the least, I
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  Speaker 7: don't know, was when she referred to the opportunity economy,
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  Speaker 7: which I think is probably the policies underneath it, the
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  Speaker 7: goal of it all makes sense. But it was the
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  Speaker 7: one part where I thought, oh, well, that feels like
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  Speaker 7: a sentence taken directly from a poll.
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  Speaker 2: You literally just didn't need that phrase.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So she did contrast with Trump throughout the speech. There
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  Speaker 1: was one longer section in the middle where she just
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  Speaker 1: went full prosecutor and laid out the case against Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Let's listen.
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump tried to throw away your votes. When he failed,
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  Speaker 5: he sent an armed mob to the United States Capitol
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  Speaker 5: where they assaulted law enforcement officers. When politicians in his
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  Speaker 5: own party begged him to call off the mob and send.
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  Speaker 2: Help, he did the opposite.
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  Speaker 5: He fanned the flames. And now, for an entirely different
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  Speaker 5: set of crimes, he was found guilty of fraud by
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  Speaker 5: a jury of everyday Americans and separately and separately found
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  Speaker 5: liable for committing sexual abuse. And consider, consider what he
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  Speaker 5: intends to do if we give him power again. Consider
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: his explicit intent to set free violent extremists who assaulted
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: those law enforcement officers at the Capitol. His explicit intent
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: to jail journalists, political opponents, and anyone he sees as
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: the enemy. His explicit intent to deploy our active duty
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: military against our own citizens. Consider, consider the power He
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: will have, especially after the United States Supreme.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Court just ruled that he would be.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Immune from criminal prosecution. Just imagine Donald Trump with no
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: guardrails and how he would use the immense powers of
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: the presidency of the United States. Not to improve your life,
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: not to strengthen our national security, but to serve the
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: only client he has ever had, himself.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this all week.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I personally am not too big on going through all
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: of the bad things Trump has ever done because I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: think people have mostly made up their minds about Trump,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: especially the voters that we need to win. But I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: thought that was really effective because she sort of brought
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the whole thing forward and said, calmly laid out what
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he had done in the past and then said, well,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and consider what he'll do in the future with this power.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And she basically defined him as someone who has only
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: cared about himself and who's not going to help you.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was pretty good. What'd you guys think?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: She also didn't make it a bunch of corny lines.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: She just laid it out simply. He sent a mob
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: to the Capitol. He assaulted women. He was found guilty
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: of fraud. He wants to pardon the January 6th insurrectionists
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: and jail opponents and jail journalists. Imagine what he'll do next. Simple, powerful,
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: got through it fast. There was not a single corny
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: line in this speech. And I thought there's a point
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: earlier before the sliver.
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: She says he's an unserious man, but the consequence of
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: his presence here, which is exactly right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Would he do it?
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: And, you know, we say all the time, like laying
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: out all the bad stuff he does doesn't matter. But
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: there is a segment of voters. They are Trump 20
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: voters who after January 6th walked away from him. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: we have struggled and struggled and struggled to get those
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: people to come over to the Democrats. They were not
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: coming for Biden. Some of them are interested in Kamala,
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: but these are the exact voters you need. And that
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: like that recitation, that delivery is, I think, an effective
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: way of doing it because she doesn't gild the lily.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: She just does it straight like a prosecutor would.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: I'm sort of done with the phrase everyday Americans. I am.
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: It replaced ordinary Americans because we decided that the word
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: ordinary was pejorative.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Was that seen as critical? Yeah, pejorative, yeah. It's another
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: everyday American.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Do you have an alternative?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about it. What about just Americans?
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: Just Americans, jury of peers. It's not a criticism. That's
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: the phrase that's just bouncing around.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: What about mid-Americans?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You're just kind of mid. Median Americans.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Anyway, thanks for your edit.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: One of the big issues in this election, and also
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: one that she had been talking about as vice president
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: for the last couple years, is abortion rights.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: She hit that hard in the speech. Here's the key part.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: And understand he is not done. As a part of
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: his agenda, he and his allies would limit access to
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: ban with or without Congress. And get this, get this,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: he plans to create a national anti-abortion coordinator. and force
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: states to report on women's miscarriages and abortions. Simply put, they.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Are out of their minds. That's some creepy shit. Yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: it's disgusting.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: And I'll just say, like, that's not only a case
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: about how Trump would curtail abortion rights, it's a case
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: that should appeal to libertarians. Because that is crazy. It
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: is a crazy thing to do if you are worried
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: about government intruding into your personal life.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also thought that just the line, they're out
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: of their minds. I love it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: It's just great because it wasn't... You know, we've heard
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it a lot at this convention, other places. You get
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: like a line that's designed for an applause and it's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a little cutesy and it's written as a soundbite. You
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: just say what everyone's thinking, which is like, that's crazy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: They're out of their minds.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: That I do think, just to come back to the delivery,
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: like throughout this speech, there were ways in which.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Like, moments like that could have been cheesier. Yep. She
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: could have hammed it up. She just didn't.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I had, like, a million corny lines in my head
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that I'm so glad that didn't come out of her mouth.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: Well, the lines didn't happen, but even the moments that
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: I think she could have hammed up, she didn't.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: She delivered them straight. Yep.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: And she let the words speak for themselves. She really didn't, like,
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: she didn't linger on applause. She kept powering through the speech.
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: She kept the speech moving. The kind of, like, it
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: was funny. She sort of, like, danced around basically saying that,
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Trump and J.D. Vance are going to appoint an anti-abortion czar.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: And I would like us to start calling it a czar.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Anti-abortion coordinator?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Coordinator? Czar. Yeah, czar is scary. Border czar versus abortion czar?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I'll take that fight. Again, thank you for the edit.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: That's good. It's not an edit. It's an idea for
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: moving forward. We're not going back, John.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: All right, so I just want to say, Dan was
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: wondering when he could go to the bathroom during the speech.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: He was wondering.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: when the foreign policy section began, because that's when he
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: was going to go to the bathroom.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: But to the credit of the speechwriters, it was so short,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I couldn't go.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And it turns out, and it turns out, it was
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: an incredibly powerful foreign policy section.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Let's listen.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Kim Jong-un, who.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Are rooting for Trump.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Who are rooting for Trump. They know he is easy
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: to manipulate with flattery and favors. They know Trump won't
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: hold autocrats accountable because he wants to be an autocrat himself.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: And as president, I will never waver in defense of
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: America's security and ideals because in the enduring struggle between
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: democracy and tyranny, I know where I stand and I
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: know where the United States belongs.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I almost stood up and cheered at that part here
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in our studio. Tommy?
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: The foreign policy section sparkled on the red carpet tonight, John.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: No mention of AUKUS. It was really, there was no AUKUS.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: What the fuck?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, look. Where was AUKUS? Where's AUKUS? What is
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Pacific Rim, Tommy? No mention of the Pacific Rim.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Not enough rims.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: She looked and sounded tough as hell. She talked about
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: combating autocrats. She talked about rallying NATO after the Russian
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: invasion of Ukraine. She did something that, frankly, President Biden
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: really struggled to do, which was talk about the humanity
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: and suffering of the Palestinian people in a way that
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: I found moving.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And I thought it was good. Sometimes the foreign policy
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: section drags. OK, we know that.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: We know we are the redheaded stepchild of your little
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: comms department your little speech teams but you know what
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: tonight we we shined.
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: Well let me say here's what I'll say okay I'm
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: glad I didn't pee thanks I have a long history
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: of peeing during foreign policy speeches in fact I've never
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: heard a word that Ben Rhodes has written.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: You're gonna get a bladder infection and I'm glad I
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: didn't go it was good it's.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: The nicest thing you've ever said I'm glad she did
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it I will say watching that foreign policy section again
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that was not like just performance that is that last
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: clip that we heard that is like The way that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: she delivered that is the delivery of someone who has
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: been vice president, who has been around the world, who
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: has dealt with foreign policy crises, who has sat in
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the situation room. You could tell that she really felt
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that in a way that when she was a candidate
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: in 2020, maybe would not have delivered it that authentically.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: Several of the best moments throughout this convention have been
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: people choosing not to process their disgust with sort of
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: like vitriolic sentences, but actually taking a step back, Obama
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: did this, that AOC did this, Walls did this, Kamala
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: does this, which is to step back and try to
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: make it, figure out like, why is this so outrageous? Like,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: why is it so ridiculous that we're in this situation?
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: And that, like, That was one of the most moving
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: moments of the entire speech. And it was in the
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: foreign policy section, which we normally think is junk, Tommy.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: I normally hate myself. But to your point about the
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: authenticity of it, you're right. Normally, if you're a congressman
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: or a governor or a senator and you're running for president,
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: you're faking it. You're cosplaying president. She's been in the
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: situation room. She's been in the PDB. She has represented
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Joe Biden in the United States at the Munich Security Summit.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: She's been to ASEAN. She's been to these national summits
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: representing the United States.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: How many G's has she been to?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: G unit? I don't know. Many.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: There's also something about her being a prosecutor, too. One
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: of the things that's been striking just over the past
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: couple of years is we saw this with some of
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: the indictments and how they're written. There's nothing that has
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: disgusted law enforcement officials more than actually confronting the detailed
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: evidence of Donald Trump's behavior. Like there, there is a
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: kind of like righteous indignation that comes with having been
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: a law enforcement person, seeing the way Donald Trump conducts himself.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And I, I appreciate that in this moment.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: So you all know what we thought of this speech.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You're all thinking the positive America guys slobbered all over
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the speech.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: It's embarrassing.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: If the election was tomorrow, it is still possible. She
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: could lose.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Sure. The way things are right now, it is very tight.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: We've had a whole convention. It's been a great week.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump has responded to this in a very Donald
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Trump way. He was truthing during the whole thing. Just
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: some really wild truths. Where's Hunter was one of them.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: He started yelling about how Coach Walls was just an
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: assistant coach. This is what he was posting during her speech.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: The hunter ship has sailed, my friend.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And then he called into Fox afterwards, went on this tirade,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and he was so exercised about the whole thing, you
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: could hear, like, The phone, he was hitting the numbers
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: on the phone and it was going beep, beep, beep
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: while he was talking.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: He was out of his mind. Nonetheless, the race is
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: still almost tied. It's too bad. Final thoughts on where
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: we go from here.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Just on Trump for a second.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: Just the split screen of her delivering that speech before
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: that rapturous crowd. And Donald Trump calling into Fox News
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: like he's some sort of disgruntled Yankees fan. Imagine what
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: the split screen is going to be like on the
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: morning shows tomorrow, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a real campaign could have had waited till
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and then he could have done an event and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he could have responded. You forget what like a normal
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: opposition campaign is like.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would just you would take the night off.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: You'd come back tomorrow and respond.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Think about it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Also, truth, Walls was an assistant coach, not a coach.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: An assistant coach is a coach, you stupid asshole. Play
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: one sport in your life, for the love of God,
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: you call your assistant coach, coach. Great week here at
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: the TNC.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: It's also like an incredibly effective speech after a very
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: effective convention with some of the best, I think, whatever,
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: primetime big speeches that we've seen. If it works, it
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: does everything it's supposed to do, and it persuades 10%
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: to 20% of the undecided voters to come along.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: I thought you were going to say 10 to 20,000 people.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Of the small percentage of people that are undecided, it
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: would show up as a point or two. It would
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: show up as a point or two.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: So that's all I'm getting at.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: The most effective night we could ever hope for is
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: one in which we would see modest improvement that would
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: make us maybe feel a little bit more reassured in
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: a race we could still very much lose.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: All right. So just to bring everyone back down to earth.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Good thing to do.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: When we get back from the break, you'll hear our
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: interview with Governor Gavin Newsom. But before we get to that,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: convention's over and now it's time to get to work.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Vote Save America has set an ambitious goal to sign
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: up 75,000 volunteers by National Voter Registration Day on September 17th.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And they can't get there without you.
• 30:21
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• 30:24
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• 30:27
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• 30:30
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• 30:33
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• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and down the ballot.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: Can I just say, a lot of you have said
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: that what finally gets you to sign up is a
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: moment where we say, hey, we've been asking you over
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: and over again to sign up.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Do us a favor.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Text me back.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Just do it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Just go on to votesaveamerica.com and sign up. Just as
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: a favor to us, you've been listening for a long time.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Do it for Dan. This is fucking free. Do it
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: for Dan. Do it for Dan. What if we did
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it for Kamala?
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: You may never. Listen, if you volunteer, if you donate,
• 31:06
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• 31:08
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  Speaker 1: candidates committee. When we come back, Gavin Newsom. We're here
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: with Governor Gavin Newsom.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Every state's got one. How the hell do you keep
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: our names straight? There's a lot of us. With a
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: lot of us.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: How are you doing?
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I'm good, man. I mean, this is fun, right? Yes.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I know everyone says it just reminds me a lot
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: of Obama in 08, but it does, right? That sense
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: of spirit and pride. There's an intangible. It's different.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the switch?
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, the switch. Now we went through a very
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: open process and a very inclusive process. It was bottom up.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know that. Yes, that's what
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I've been told to say.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was a blitz primary, I believe is what
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: they called it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: It's a very, very fast blitz.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It's a blitz primary, so we call that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: A 30-minute convention, you know, between a tweet and another tweet.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how it happened.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been amazing. But what is amazing is how
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: unified everybody is. I mean, it's next level.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So Kamala Harris is our nominee. You have known her
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: for many years.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Crazy 20 20 almost 25 years before before we were
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: both in power i know everyone said we're friends you
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: know like you roll your eyes politicians being friends right
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: uh but literally before um we were either both of
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: us policies none of us knew what we were going
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: to do in the future i was running a little
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: restaurant uh and had a wine store down the road
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: and uh she was an assistant district attorney in alameda
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: county we had some mutual friends some guy named willie
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: brown and Some other guys that fell in helicopters with
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: And here we are. It was a hell of a thing.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: This was never on a bingo card, man. This is
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: next level surreal. So it's pretty exciting.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: What's something about Kamala Harris that most people don't know
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: that they should know?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I think most people, I mean, it is a good point.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, no one even knew. I swear to you,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: the one thing that's universal. I didn't know she worked
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: at McDonald's. That's like the most interesting and relevant thing.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: But it is interesting. I mean, it is a reminder
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: how you think you know somebody and you don't. And
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: so I think that's her opportunity, obviously, to introduce herself,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: not just reintroduce herself, but fill out that bio a
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: little bit more. And obviously, she's doing that with some
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: of the paid media. But that bio is so multifaceted, again,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: just in terms of the relationship, the personal relationship, her advocacy,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: her causes, social justice, racial justice, economic justice. There's so
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: much focus on her. criminal justice frame as a district
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: attorney and AG prosecuting the case. But there's a whole
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: nother side of her about inclusion. And that's something I
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: hope she talks more about. And look, she's prepared. She's tough.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: She's tenacious. She doesn't suffer fools.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Why'd you point at John?
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Well, do you want to say something? We got a
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: little history here we need to discuss.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Let's air it out.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: He's been foolish.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Let's air it out.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Did you all know that McDonald's apparently put out some
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: data where they found that one of every eight Americans
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: has worked at a McDonald's?
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Is that true?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: This is all hearsay from the hallway an hour ago
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: with Dunphy, but this is what I was told.
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: I mean, if you can't trust what you hear in
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: the hallway at the Democratic Convention, what can you trust?
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know what? I just want you to
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: know you can trust me. Because I have raised the
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: minimum wage for fast food workers in my great state
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: to $ 20. Nicely done. And we've created more jobs since
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: we've done that. Sorry, Wall Street Journal. Eat your heart out.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: They're wrong. Created more jobs. Now, I'm just saying, if
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Kamala worked under our administration, she would be much better
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: off today than she was back in the day. That's
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: all I'm saying.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: That is a professional pivot.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: But no, so look, it's exciting, and so it's fun.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: So many of our mutual old friends are here, and
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: now all our new friends that are old friends. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: went to grammar school with Kamala. She's my close, you know.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's going to be a lot of that.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Jesus.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I did SoulCycle with Doug.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, sure.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of people who did SoulCycle. By
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: the way, probably a lot of people did do SoulCycle.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Apparently, me-ho, yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Doug was in SoulCycle. I've been to that one many times.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: California Love was the music playing when you put Kamala
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: over the top.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Why was everyone upset we didn't have, like, Kendrick Lamar
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: or someone show up? You did. You know, like they won,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, that Newsom guy.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: You could have had Dr.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Dre. Where's Snoop? I mean, like, Snoop, he costs a
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: half a million dollars to get here, probably. Oh, yeah.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: That's what he made.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I think that's his daily NBC break. He wouldn't have
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: done this for free?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: That was amazing. Anyway, that's a whole other unbelievable, I mean,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that guy was, I mean, that's the best Olympics I've enjoyed. But, no,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I know, that was, everyone brought it. The DJ, the
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: whole thing. This was a different thing.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Was that your choice, California Love?
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Come on, why not? I love Cal.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've been like Green Day or something. We're
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: elder millennials. There's nothing wrong with Green Day.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: We talked about this.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Lars, I just checked in two nights ago.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: How's he doing?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: He's crushing it. They're still filling out damn stadiums. No
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: one does that. But yeah, no, look. California, cool. Come on.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, it makes sense. Makes sense.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: We were in our Slack. There was a running debate.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Everyone was waiting for California, waiting for California. What song
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: is it going to be?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Young people.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: It's California love. There's no question. There's only one option.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: By the way, it was interesting just being with my
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: delegation and how everybody, we had four of us that
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: were supposed to be in the camera, our good centers.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I saw that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I saw that. We'll talk. That's another conversation.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: That was a college dame day out there.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: It was surreal.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: So obviously California's getting a lot of love at this convention.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: The last president from California was Ronald Reagan, a Republican.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: If Kamala Harris wins, are there some statues of him
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: we can melt down and turn into something Kamala-related? How
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: are we going to play this?
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: This is hard. God is my witness. Right before I
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: walked in here, someone grabbed me and whispered, said, you
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: need to name the Golden Gate Bridge after Nancy Pelosi.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, Jesus. I said, well, the Bay Bridge
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: was named after the former mayor, Willie Brown. Feinstein, I think,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: is going to get the name of the airport. I mean,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: we're going to run out of things to name. This
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: is a problem, right?
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You should not say that on microphone because Nancy Pelosi
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: will hear it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: No, I know.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: We know how that goes.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure on us to come up
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: with something. We need to figure that out for Nancy.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: But it is, I mean, that is another part of,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I think, just the California love that I'm enjoying is
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: just the appreciation for some of the talent that's coming
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: out of the state. And that next level talent, obviously,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: in Nancy Pelosi and Kamala and so much of that history.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: And it's interesting in that Bay Area history in particular.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: And for those that follow California politics, the Brown-Burton-Pelosi machine.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, old school politics, loyalty. I mean, just the
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: principles of leadership and loyalty with you when it's tough,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: tough on you when things are going too well. I mean,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: these guys are mentors and they're extraordinarily talented. I mean,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: the cohesiveness in the Bay Area, the competitiveness, sure, but
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: the cohesiveness of support is next level. And I think
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: that's demonstrable with Kamala's rise and success, obviously Nancy's persistence
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: and her dominance in American politics.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: You played a lot of sports in your day. Tim
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Walls was a football coach, the high school teacher. What
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: do you think it means for a politician to have
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: been a coach of a team, to a leader of
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: young men?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: What does that say about him?
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: No BS. I mean, I told Tim when I saw
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: him yesterday, I said, why haven't you publicly thanked me
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: for your job? Like, I'm the biggest Tim Walz fan.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Anyone that's ever met him has to be. He's the
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: most decent. For me, the scorecard of what makes a
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: great politician is just a great person. As a human being,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: this guy is the real deal. He's the coach in
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: every way, shape, or form. He really gives a damn
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: about other people. It's the reason he became the head
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: of the DGA. There was no debate. But I remember
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: sitting there when we voted for him, everyone looked like, Tim, obviously.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: And in fact, we don't know what to do without
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: him as the head of the DGA. So he's just
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: a decent, honorable guy. He's the same guy in private
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: that you see in public. And so there's an authenticity.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: And the reason I'm not surprised about this pick, knowing
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Kamala as long as I've known. she's got to have
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: that trust. There was no doubt when she, as talented
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: all the other considerations were, and they were all extraordinarily
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: next-level talented, there was no doubt in my mind she
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: would pick Tim on the basis of that interpersonal relationship.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: And just knowing that she would have this guy's trust
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: and he would always have her back.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: 24-7.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: And so I just think it's an inspired ticket for
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: her as a situational partner, short-term, and as a sustainable partner, long-term.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Because we all know some people regret their vice presidential
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: choices after the election. because they just did it for
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: the situational short-term benefit of the political.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And then they try to kill them you know and
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: then they try to kill them yeah so you gotta
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: watch for that or they they do a reality show
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: like sarah palin's alaska's oh yeah that's right yeah um
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: last question for you yes sir you've been in elected
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: office for 20 years you now have one of the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: most challenging jobs in my opinion so i gotta ask
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: what lessons have you learned being a podcast host.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: What the hell that went I was like in my
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: mind I had my stump speech response to the gubernatorial
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: thing and you literally went there honestly.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: You told us you were launching last time you were
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: on the show you guys were giving me advice.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: You guys know about podcasts but I mean we don't
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: know much.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: The advice was don't do it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Literally you son of a bitch that was your advice
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: the worst god damn advice that's a fact I appreciate
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: your honesty I mean you did it way That is
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: not a guy worried about our competition. He was serious
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: Do I come to your office and start issuing proclamations
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: and executive orders?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: No, stay out of our shit.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: That's all we're saying. Oh, geez. I'm like literally. We
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: don't like competition. We're unbelievable. So, look. Hey, just saying, okay,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: with all due respect, like Marshawn Lynch, that's just different. Yeah,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: that's good. It is different.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: It's the beast.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: And it's fun. And by the way, we had a
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: fun little episode. We went into San Quentin, death row.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: which I did a moratorium on the death penalty in California,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: and then we cleaned out San Quentin. We're turning it
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: into an honor yard.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: And we were able to do an episode there. I
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: met a guy. You talk about sports. God is my witness.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I met a kid that I played Little League baseball with. Really?
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: 25 to life. He just got rejected on a five-year
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: parole because of some in-prison violations. And Marshawn met a
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: guy I grew up with in Oakland. walking through the
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: yard and that's the kind i think for us that's
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: the pot that that's the sort of intersection of what
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: we're trying to do differently because we sure as hell
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: can't compete with you guys in any day on any
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: way uh and so that what is now what about
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: but i'm a politician.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I think you basically hosted this whole segment.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: And in just a moment we'll be back uh but
• 42:14
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• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So we have this organization, Vote Save America. We're having
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: people sign up to get involved, volunteers. Do you have
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: any marching orders for everyone in this election?
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: What do you mean? To vote?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, are you seriously having this?
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: You think a registration? Are we really having this conversation?
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: The importance of registering to vote? I mean, you think
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: a lot of people out there? No, we don't want
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: them to just register to volunteer. We want them to go.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Volunteer, knock on doors, make calls, all this stuff.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's about active, non-inert citizenship. And citizenship is
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: not just voting every two years or four years in
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: an election. It's everything that happens in between. It's everything
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: that happens after this convention that will be determinative in
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: terms of fate and future of our country and the
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: planet and the world we're trying to build. And so
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: everybody needs to step up and step in in a
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: much more deep and meaningful way, get other people activated
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: and involved. Get rid of this cynicism, all the negativity,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: all that stress and anxiety. I know we've all been
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: through in the last three plus years and recognize that
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: we've got to reconcile the world we're living in. And
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: we have this unique opportunity in American history to do
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: that and do our, dare I say, turn the page.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump and Trumpism and put that in the dustbin
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: of history and in the rearview mirror.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, thank you for stopping by. Thank you for
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: being our governor.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Good to be with you guys. We'll see you, all three,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: not four of you, on the podcast when I invite
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: you on my podcast.
• 43:41
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• 43:43
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