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Dwight Freeney Joins to Talk Hall of Fame Induction, Golfing with Michael Jordan, and His Favorite Current Pass Rushers · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: It's me and your host Cam Jordan off the edge
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. You know, big cutting my head off of
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  Speaker 1: the frame today. But you don't even hear on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But if you tune into the NFL YouTube channel where
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  Speaker 1: you can see the podcast off the edge of me,
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  Speaker 1: your host, you'll notice that.
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  Speaker 2: It's just Shoulders Hi. Now, got to bring it in
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  Speaker 2: tight right here.
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  Speaker 1: But I got a great guest on the show today.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a great interviewee on the show today. I've
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  Speaker 1: got a great legend of the game on today's episode,
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  Speaker 1: I get to bring in a man from the Indianapolis Colts,
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  Speaker 1: played so many years with collected one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: five and a half sacks collectively, seven time Pro Bowler,
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  Speaker 1: three time First Team All Pro, was a Super Bowl champion,
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  Speaker 1: and also a second team on Pro But like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand why they don't talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: That's for all pros right there, And.
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  Speaker 1: He just recently became this year three hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: second member of the Hall of Fame class of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, the Dwight Freenie. Hey, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: bring in my big dog, my og legend of the game,
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  Speaker 1: a man who's had over one hundred sacks, let's say
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five and a half, A man
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  Speaker 1: who's been an All Pro, three time All Pro first
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  Speaker 1: team and then there's a second team in there. So
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  Speaker 1: really it is a four time situation, seven time pro bowler,
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  Speaker 1: a legend and current brand new class Hall of Class
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four Hall of Famer. You know, number
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy two. I said, what accolade don't
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  Speaker 1: you have? It's Dwight Freeeny, the spin mattic. You know,
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  Speaker 1: put him in a spin machine. Growing up, watching Dwight
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  Speaker 1: inspired a generation of guys that wanted to spin just
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  Speaker 1: like Dwight. If you want look, if you want were
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  Speaker 1: a pass rusher and you wanted to spin, you want
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  Speaker 1: to spend like Dwyke Freene.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Big dun for tapping in with us on
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  Speaker 2: the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you having me off the edge. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I had to be here off the edge.
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  Speaker 4: You can. That's what we do camp.
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  Speaker 1: We off the edge, off the edge. Look, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to start off, like, come on, man, the spin
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  Speaker 1: moves that you put on, it was just it was
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  Speaker 1: it was a clinic you'd be like, oh, man, he
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  Speaker 1: has a hell of a speed of power he's got
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's got a couple moves. But when you
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  Speaker 1: hit that that speed up the field and hit him
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  Speaker 1: with that real the hook of a of elbow passive
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  Speaker 1: lineman like chefs kiss every time you're like, yo, spin move.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you know what I just did. Dwight Freeney. Wide
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  Speaker 1: receivers got Randy Moss. Defensive ends had Dwight free Man.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know how it is you go out there,
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  Speaker 3: you better have uh, you know, some moves because those
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  Speaker 3: offensive tackles.
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  Speaker 4: They all hold, they're all cheap.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't have something in in you know
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  Speaker 3: that belt buckle where you said, okay, you're blocking this,
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  Speaker 3: but what about this? Okay you got that one, Well
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  Speaker 3: I got this for you. So that's that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: how my game was. You know, it wasn't it wasn't checkers.
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  Speaker 3: We were playing chess out there, you know, and I
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  Speaker 3: was going I was going to, yeah, you know how
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  Speaker 3: it is. You got to give him the speed and
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  Speaker 3: then gotta get those feet moving. And then when those
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  Speaker 3: speed moving, okay, something else is opening up.
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  Speaker 4: All right. I'll let you think that you're blocking me
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  Speaker 4: until you don't block me. That's that's how it is.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely the fat boy's feet get the crossing, they start squealing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, exactly where he is.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to move his lest he doesn't want
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  Speaker 3: to move his steet, all right, So that's what I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna make you move your feet. You will all You're
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  Speaker 3: going to just be devoured out there.
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  Speaker 4: That's just what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely b you know, for for for younger players, for
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  Speaker 1: what it is, Uh, how did how did you used
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  Speaker 1: to get ready for a season back when it was
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  Speaker 1: you know, sixteen weeks of football, back when you know,
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  Speaker 1: as the year started compiling and the body started aching
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it is? How did you go through going
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  Speaker 1: through a whole season of football and a legendary way?
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think for me, you know, I just
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  Speaker 3: had to make sure that I handled the things that
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  Speaker 3: I can control.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. So the things you can.
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  Speaker 3: Control is what you put in your body, all right,
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  Speaker 3: what you do with your body after the games, before practice,
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  Speaker 3: So you know, those are the things that I didn't
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  Speaker 3: make sure that, you know what, I'm gonna be as
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  Speaker 3: prepared as I possibly can be for this game with
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  Speaker 3: no excuses because I've done everything I needed to do,
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  Speaker 3: all right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm at the right weight, I've been stretching, I've been
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  Speaker 4: doing whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: I do hyperbetic chambers, I do acupuncture, I did I
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  Speaker 3: did a whole bunch just to make sure that when
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  Speaker 3: it was Sunday, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Feeling good or as good as I'm supposed.
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  Speaker 3: To feel based on whatever week before. All right, So
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  Speaker 3: that was my mindset, you know. So it was you know,
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  Speaker 3: when people talk about football, you know, and how much
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  Speaker 3: time is required to be great or to be good
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  Speaker 3: or to be successful, it's it's it's damn near. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're talking. You know, you're waking up at six forty five,
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  Speaker 3: and when practice is over, I'm not done. I bring
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  Speaker 3: film home, I'm stretching, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not done until probably ten thirty, eleven o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: And all I got. All I can do is sleep and.
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  Speaker 3: Wake up and put it on repeat for the next day,
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  Speaker 3: just to get ready for that game.
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  Speaker 4: You know. So if you have you know.
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  Speaker 3: Some type of I don't know, repertoire things that you do,
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  Speaker 3: schedule of what you do. Maybe it's Mondays is going
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  Speaker 3: to be soft tissue. Tuesdays is going to be you know,
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  Speaker 3: acupuncture Wednesdays. You go to practice, you do your thing,
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  Speaker 3: you come back, you do whatever you need to do, stretching, yoga,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is. You just make sure that you have
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  Speaker 3: your routine and you stick to that routine throughout the
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  Speaker 3: end entire week, and you should be good enough to
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  Speaker 3: go out and get after it.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Look that prehab is seriously, there's rehab, rehabits before practice.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's there's meetings practice. Then you try and
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  Speaker 1: hit the touch to the rehab room. Probably you know,
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  Speaker 1: get when those grass and tools get scraped down real quick,
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  Speaker 1: get cup, you know, definitely do the dry needles versus
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  Speaker 1: the acupuncture. And then I mean, I didn't know you
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  Speaker 1: was on the hyperbaric chamber. I ain't find hyperbaric until
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  Speaker 1: like year ten.
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  Speaker 3: Man, like that hyperbaric it's been on. Man, that thing
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  Speaker 3: has been part of my entire career. I lived in it.
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  Speaker 3: Can when I'm talking about when you get off of practice,
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  Speaker 3: all right, if you get home, I would bring my
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  Speaker 3: iPad right and I'll go sit in that chamber. Forty
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  Speaker 3: five minutes in the hyperbaric chamber is equivalent to eight
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  Speaker 3: hours of sleep from a recovery stamp. Okay, so when
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  Speaker 3: you sleep eight hours, your blood and how it circulates
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  Speaker 3: your body through your system, it corrects, it cleans out,
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  Speaker 3: does all that in eight hours. Well, getting in the
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  Speaker 3: hyperbaric chamber within forty five minutes an hour just the
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  Speaker 3: same work that doesn't eight hours.
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  Speaker 4: So I was going to be in that.
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  Speaker 3: Chamber, reading, doing all the things I needed to do,
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  Speaker 3: all my notes whatever. I might fall asleep, I might
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  Speaker 3: wake up, but I'm get in there for about two
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  Speaker 3: hours after practice, be out of there about eight thirty.
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  Speaker 4: Eat, get ready to go to sleep. Done right.
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  Speaker 1: That commitment to the game, there's a reason. There's a
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  Speaker 1: reason why you win seventeen years. That's just that's amazing. Word,
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  Speaker 1: that's legendary itself. Look, I'm a year fourteen. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we can go. We got a lot to give. Seventeen
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  Speaker 1: that sounds fall share.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sixteen is what I did. Sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the truth is I could have played longer, and
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  Speaker 3: why I did it was because a at some point
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  Speaker 3: when you're in year fifteen, or you might be feeling.
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  Speaker 4: This now or whatever, but the game, at least for the.
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  Speaker 3: Young folks young, you know, I mean the younger generation, right,
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  Speaker 3: And it got to a point where I felt I
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  Speaker 3: was really coaching. I was coaching coaches. I was older
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  Speaker 3: than coaches. I was coaching. I was coaching my guys up.
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  Speaker 3: And I felt like, you know what, it's their time now,
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  Speaker 3: it's their time to shine. I can go out there
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  Speaker 3: and do whatever I do. But what am I really
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  Speaker 3: playing for at this point in my career? Based on
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  Speaker 3: the teams I was playing on. It wasn't like we
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  Speaker 3: were competing for the championship or ring. I always want
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  Speaker 3: to play for the ring. But at that point, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I'm coaching these guys up. I want
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  Speaker 3: to see them succeed, and uh, it's time for me
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  Speaker 3: just to turn the page and focus on some renalds.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for them? Last couple of
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  Speaker 1: years of your career, you're just navigating it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: from one being with the coach for so long too,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even the way you left it and went on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So so for me, Kim, it's a little different,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And it's kind of funny because when you
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  Speaker 3: when you get older, they want to protect you. The
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  Speaker 3: coaching staff want to protect you. They want to protect
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Saying at year seven?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, we don't want to get you banged up.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know you don't need to play every down,
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  Speaker 3: just come in and third down and whatever. I'm and
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  Speaker 3: I'm a guy who you know, I want to play first, second,
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  Speaker 3: and third because, be quite honest with you, you have
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  Speaker 3: to get the feel of the game and you can't
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  Speaker 3: just throw somebody in there on third down only get,
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  Speaker 3: you know, fifteen plays and twenty plays a game and
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  Speaker 3: really get a grasp of what's actually happened because they
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  Speaker 3: game playing the hell out of third down. So you're
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  Speaker 3: not going to really be able to attack the way
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  Speaker 3: that you really prefer to attack. So when you get
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  Speaker 3: in that mode of where those coaches say they want
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  Speaker 3: to protect you and they want to, all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden you only get in fifteen.
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  Speaker 4: Plays, all of a sudden, your stats are going down.
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  Speaker 3: Your numbers are going down, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to pay you as much because look,
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  Speaker 3: do I look at your stats, You're not playing as
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  Speaker 3: much da da, And I'm thinking to myself, that was y'all.
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  Speaker 4: You guys take that decision. For me, it wasn't me.
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  Speaker 3: Look, if you out of my way, I'd be sitting
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  Speaker 3: there playing forty five fifty players every single step. That's
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  Speaker 3: how I love the game, that's how I wanted to play,
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  Speaker 3: but they wanted to protect me. Numbers go down, all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, you don't play as much, all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, you become more of a coach.
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  Speaker 4: Then it's like, you know what, you guys got it.
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  Speaker 1: You guys got it quick, Like I have so much
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  Speaker 1: more to give and you just want to limit me,
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  Speaker 1: which they try and limit you early, like hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we want to rotate, like we don't want to tax
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  Speaker 1: you one because you know, it's discovering their bases. And
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  Speaker 1: then second of all, you know they want to see
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  Speaker 1: what the next waves look like. And if the next
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  Speaker 1: wave can't cut it, then you're right back.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, it's the nature of the beast.
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  Speaker 4: I get it. I mean, you know, it's just what
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  Speaker 4: it is. Everyone.
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  Speaker 3: For the most part, you're gonna hear that, you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: get that call, you're gonna get that message, you're gonna say, hey, Dwight,
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  Speaker 3: we love you, or.
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  Speaker 4: Cam we love you. But you know, you know you're
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  Speaker 4: making the numbers and you know, we'll figure something out,
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  Speaker 4: we'll take care of you.
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  Speaker 3: And that's just how it That's just how it goes
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  Speaker 3: until you're like, you get frustrated or you just can't
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  Speaker 3: do it anymore.
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  Speaker 4: That's just what it is.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's that's that's yeah, that's how that's how
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  Speaker 3: it happened for me.
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  Speaker 4: Cam. But I will tell you one thing that how
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  Speaker 4: we Long told me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I saw how Long in one of the Pro
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  Speaker 3: Bowls who was coming back or whatever, and he said, look,
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  Speaker 3: play the game as long as you can play it,
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  Speaker 3: because when you're done, it's over forever. And yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: that really hit home for me because I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: make sure.
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  Speaker 4: Look, this game has given me a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot, and I love it. I'm infactuated by it. It
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  Speaker 3: just is just everything about it. But when it's done,
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  Speaker 3: you ain't coming back. This ain't like you know, this
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  Speaker 3: ain't like Michael Jordan come back off the you know,
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  Speaker 3: retired for a few years.
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  Speaker 4: We football players, we gotta stay on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: We can't as soon as we feel with that other
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  Speaker 3: life is about, we ain't coming back coming back. So
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  Speaker 3: so for me, that's just what it was. I was like, all,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play sixteen and be done.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, that's real deal, holy Field, Bro. It was a
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  Speaker 1: two off season goes now, Bro. I took the fam
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  Speaker 1: on something like, Hey, I'm a dad, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, the family goes travels, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to show the kids something. We want to go live
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  Speaker 1: in Spain for three months right the off season. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, No, We're living out in Spain. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be great. I was like, you know, we're gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna make the kids cultured. We're gonna make them learn
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  Speaker 1: to speak Spanish. That was my idea, was to make
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  Speaker 1: the fans speak Spanish for me too, for them. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm yo, say Cameron, you know, like la, you know
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is we're going. The kids are like for
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  Speaker 1: the first three weeks, the kids are just like, why
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  Speaker 1: are they speaking Why are they speaking Spanish? Why are
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  Speaker 1: they talking to me? Weird? No, maybe you're the weird one.
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  Speaker 1: You're in their country. I'm forcuning you guys to do this.
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  Speaker 1: Wife he homeschooling them, but we still got like a
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  Speaker 1: babysitter type coming through every day teaching us Spanish. Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: You know. And then somewhere in there, bro like three
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  Speaker 1: months in, I look around. I'm like, yo, I got
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  Speaker 1: really comfortable, I said. I was like, yo, we gotta
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  Speaker 1: go now. I was already like a week or two
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  Speaker 1: late OTAs and I was gonna stay there till camp.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I woke up one morning, yell, we
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: got about a week left. Now, Hey, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: pack up, we gotta we gotta go. What do you
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  Speaker 1: mean we gotta go. I gotta get back to hitting somebody.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta get back to the grind. There's rigorous training
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  Speaker 1: that is football.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you take off the yo, you chick off that
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  Speaker 3: yoke and you don't want to put that yo bag on.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just how it is. It's like cattle, you
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  Speaker 4: take that, you leave. That's why they leave them on.
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  Speaker 4: They sleep with.
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  Speaker 3: The yoke on, because if that cattle feels like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I can take this yoke off, that bulls to hey
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  Speaker 3: I can take this off. And they feel what it
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: feels like not to have that thing on their shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: Oh God, they're not gonna go back to work. They're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna be they gonna nah, I me ain't doing this.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel you. You you you get get back there,
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  Speaker 3: what you know, dog, because if you get too comfortable
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  Speaker 3: and it's starting to feel good, you got your feet
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  Speaker 3: up and you're eating a little bit of this, you're
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  Speaker 3: drinking a little bit of that, and you're like, you
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  Speaker 3: have twenty pounds over, You're twenty poles over, and you're like,
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  Speaker 3: oh god, this is this is gonna be a climb.
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  Speaker 4: How am I gonna get this weight off?
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  Speaker 1: Just walking walking around town? Every day with the film,
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  Speaker 1: the kids are happy, they get Dad every day. Dad,
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  Speaker 1: you should never leave.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, damn, yeah, maybe I should never leave.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, we gotta go. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about you know, you being the the
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  Speaker 1: inductee number three three, three hundred seventy two. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: all there really is. There's all like out of the
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  Speaker 1: entire hundred, you know, in the year's worth of the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: there's less than four hundred Hall of famers in the books,
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  Speaker 1: and you made three seventy two. Not only does it
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  Speaker 1: talk to to your career at all, but like it
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  Speaker 1: talks to who you've put on.
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  Speaker 2: For so many years. But how does it feel about
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  Speaker 2: getting that ring?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's you know, look, I know I had
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  Speaker 3: a good career, a great career, and no matter how
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  Speaker 3: you try to prepare yourself mentally for this moment, it
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  Speaker 3: can never add up to what you actually feel when
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  Speaker 3: it happens. And you know, they put us, they gave
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  Speaker 3: me a statistic, right, they said, three hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: million people have played the game of football in some
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: level okay, high school and make it to college or
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the college or pros or whatever it is, and only
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: three hundred and seventy eight on a pro football So
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: that's a point zero zero zero zero one, you know,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: percentage of that happening. And when you put that in perspective,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: it really hits home. And when you get to that level,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: how the Hall of Famers embrace you, It's really like
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a fraternity. It's really like their family. And that's kind
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: of you know, will put chills down my spine.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Is when you see guys like me.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: And Joe Green, Charles Haley going sap, those guys that
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: you watch growing up, Michael Strahan, Lawrence Taylor, all those
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: guys embracing you, coming to you like you did something.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I'm like, do nothing, y'all do something. I'm watching you
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: I grew up. I wouldn't be playing football if it
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: wasn't Frank guys, you know, And and so.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: That that feeling cam is everything, it truly is. And
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: not only is it just for me, you know, the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: feeling of how it feels for me, it's also for
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: all those who helped me along the way, all those
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: little people, situations, coaches, you know, they all helped me
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: get to where I got. So it's a celebration for
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: the entire camp. Everyone feels like they made it. And
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: that's how you know that for me, that that really
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: brought it home for me, you know, from a kid
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: from Bloomfield, Connecticut. We ain't gotten many from Boomfield, We've
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: got none. Now you got the whole Boomfield Greater Harford
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: area being like we got one.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Now got on you got one. Man. So yeah, it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: you know, I know, I don't know whoom Yeah, but yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: that's what I said. It is right there.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: We we neighbors, were neighbors right there, and it's like, Yo,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: it's you know, hopefully God willing you get that opportunity
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: to do that, and being there, your work has been amazing,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: you know. It's just one of those things where you
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: just never know. You know, I don't care, you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: you never you really never know. And now I got
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: a place where my bust will be there.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: And I can never be traded.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I can never be cut off this team. I can
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: never be released. I can't even get off the team
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: if I try, if I wanted to. I'm on it,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: even when I'm dead. I'm on this damn team. So kids, kids, kids,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: kids can find the great great granddad. And I'm being
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: up and there absolutely all.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I got to do is go to campon if you
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: want to see me, baby, I mean, all right, is
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: there a different is there a different feeling from when
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you got your Hall of Fame jacket to when they
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: gave you your ring?
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Well yeah they the jackets, it the jackets, it for real,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: it's it's you you. I'm not saying you're going through
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: the motions. You don't really feel it until you get
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the jacket. When you say that jacket is yours, you
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: put that jacket on.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, now you feel like, yeah I made it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah you are.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Just what it is. And you know, you talk to
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: any Hall of Famer, they all said the same thing.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: So when We're gonna get you to start coming to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: one of these one hundred SAC Club meetings. You know
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm just saying. I went to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the first one a couple of years ago in LA,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the one in.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Super Bowling a super Bowl.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Bruce.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, with Bruce. That's what I'm saying.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: There was, Yeah, I was gonna come.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I was gonna come in LA, and then all of
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: a sudden I forgot what happened and something something happened
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: that year. I told Bruce I was gonna come. They
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: actually have one at the Hall of Fame. They had one,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: but they had me running around doing all stuff because
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I was getting inducted. So I told Bruce is my boy.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I told Bruce, you know what, one hundred percent in
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: the next situation, you've got Super Bowl. Whatever I'm doing,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: it's no problem. This is, like I said, this is
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: a fraternity dog. This is we all in it together.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: We all speaking of fraternity.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: You are you looking forward to your other, your young
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: buck or you know who was a young buck. Robert
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Mathis who played with the defensive vand opposite of you
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: getting in. His chance has got to be great. We
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: might get in this year, next year that is coming.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Well look, look I would say this, and this is
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: something that you can actually because you are playing today
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: and you have this podcast, and you can kind of
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you bring a light to this.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: What people don't talk about enough is cause fumbles.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Right, A cause fumble is equivalent or maybe even greater
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: than the interception because of where you where it usually happens,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and what usually happens for us is in the backfield,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: which means that the offense has better opportunity to score touchdown.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you get a scoop and score. All right, that
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: is a huge stat Robert Mathis has the most cost
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: fumbles in league history. Okay, imagine someone with the most
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: interceptions not being in the Hall of Fame.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: You can't. So that's how I look at it when
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: we talk about Robert. Robert was a turnover machine.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Yeahs the most cost fumbles in the history of the
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: National Football League.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: And he should be.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: In simple as simple as that. I'm in no disagreeance there.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Would you would you label him between you and him?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: You guys are like the hybrid defensive end outside linebackers,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: you know, like on your ring, I saw that it
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: said defensive end outside linebacker, And on my pod I've
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: addressed this many of times. There's quite a distinction between
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: defensive end and outside linebacker. Outside linebacker is drying like
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a rushing backer, and a defensive end has handled the dirt,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: getting all that work from a four eye to a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: nine man.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you it's it's people don't understand it
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: and they try to put it all in the same Oh,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: he's just.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: A guy who's rushing. No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Defensive end, dude, you you like you said, you got
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: to line up different places.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, four, five, five.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Seven, nine, and god yeah. And if you play it
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: outside backer, chances are you're getting more of those favorable matchups.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, you're getting facing tight.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Ends because it blits of other places you might get
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: it back or whatever it is. I'm not taking anything
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: away from outside linebackers, but it's a little bit different.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: When you play a defensive end. Usually you're blind up
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: versus that offensive tackle, who is a person who pracked.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: This is past.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Blocking on a day to day basis, and sometimes they
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: bring a chip and sometimes they bring a tight end outside.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: So it's a different world, all right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: And I was actually surprised that I saw outside linebacker
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: on the ring. Like, I don't even want to be
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: known as all outside linebacker. I'm like, look them outside
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: linebacker years. I don't even want to remember. I want
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: to race those years because I shouldn't have been playing
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: outside line to begin with.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: But right, that is what it is.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Look, I try to tell people like, yo, outside linebackers,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: dope is a great position, but it's not a defensive end.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I say, it's that's like saying mustard, and you know
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the gray pupon is the same. You know, you got
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the yellow mustard and gray pupon. There are mustards, but
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: there is a difference.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: There is a difference. The difference, all right, different, definitely
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: is a difference.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. When did it When did it
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: sink in that you were a Hall of Famer? I mean,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you knew once you were tired you were going to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer, But when when did it
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: sink in?
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Free? I'm being honest.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I look, there are great players I believe that still
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: are not in the Hall of Fame, okay, and and
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: you would think at some point they would get in,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: but you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Never know, you never know. I know I left my
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: mark in again. I knew that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I felt like, at some point I'm gonna make it. Okay,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: when that point, when that happens, I don't know, so
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I couldn't. You can't really call yourself a Hall of
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Famer until you all you know, it's just talk, it's
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: just it. Literally, you know, towards end. I know you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: getting it right now. It's that towards the end of
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: your career, you know, future Hall of Famer, and you
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: hear right and you're like, yeah, I'll be great, But
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: it ain't the same until you actually make it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Do matter? It don't.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: It don't even matter until you do, until you get there,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: because you could be future Hall of Fame and for years,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: you could be forty fifty years oh and you still
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: hadn't got it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: You could be sixty. It don't matter.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: That's just how the game is, and it doesn't and
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: you just have to just take it like that and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: just say, look, hopefully one day I make it, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: it's not up to me, it's up to those who vote.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Hopefully they see my work, and that's.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: It, right man.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: True.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: True, It's like it's like you know, they try and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: tell you, oh, you're gonna buy a house one day.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: By until you.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Actually get the keys and stuff through that threshold, one
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: day is too far away.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Picture what the house looks.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Like, the potential one day, man, you could be waging
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: five for really, well, you.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Ain't got to wait forever. You you there? You you
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: him with the gold jacket. And they say hall of Fame?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: What do they call first? They say Hall of Fame?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: D like Foreni.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: They say super Bowl Champdike Freendie like which I'm just curious.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: It depends on where you were, you know what I mean.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: They're both great, great feelings and great things, you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: so I don't care what you say as long as
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: you say one of them.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Halleujah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still hunting for my super But you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: as OG had a game, when you turn on the game,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: who are the ends? Who are the rushers that you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: like to watch?
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think there's so many game guys,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: you know, Like I said, this is like a fraternity
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: out here, man, and this is like a big family.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: And I've watched you throughout my career and I love
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: how you do you do things I couldn't do. You know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you have size, you make guys move. You know, you
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: got things where you see like Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: is a guy that you know he shouldn't be able
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: to move. How he moved his side freaking.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Just yeah, yeah, that's that's that's with him. It's a
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: little freaky.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: It's like you you bending, man, you bending like you mean,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: but you still moving. Guys like you, you know what
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like you're doing too much right now.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: You just you just you just dominated, you just dominate.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: You over here, jumping over linemen, blocking field goals. You
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: just up an athlete, man.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: You see that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You see guys like you know Michael Michael Parsons. I
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: always love his energy and how he works. Okay, he
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: may not use all of the moves that he probably
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I think that's going to hopefully one day, you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: he's going to get better at he's still growing. But
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: from a motor standpoint and just afford standpoint, I love
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: what he does and how he just gives it at
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: all when he's out there.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: You know you got t J.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: T J is another guy incorporating that spend more and more.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I love to see it. You know, before me, no
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: one was spinning it. You know, they would talk teach,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: never turn your back to the quarterback. Now I'm seeing
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: guys spin left and right. TJ got that thing down
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: and he is doing his thing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Like you pass the to Dware and then Dware. You know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it crazy? Because I sit there
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: and I remember working out in the gym in LA
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: and Von Miller comes up to me and he says, hey, man,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: talk to me about to spend. I'm like, I got you,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: you know, And I helped him. I showed him a
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: little something what I was doing. Then wherever he went
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: and he taught some other young guys. And that's just
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: how the game goes. This's just how it is. Richard Den,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: you know, a good friend of mine trying to teach
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: me some stuff. And I said, okay, that's how you
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: do it. Rich Okay, let me see if I can,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: you know, And that's just how it is. You just
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you just have to give get back to the game.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I want the guys who are playing their journey to
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: be easier than my This knowledge and all this information
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and things that I, you know, came across.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: You know, I can't do nothing with it now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: So I'm really look go ahead, you need it, I
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: got you do your thing right.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Take all of it from me, because I'm gonna try
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and give everything I got and take whatever information I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: can get and my own.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: As long as we in a quarterback, I don't care
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: hit the quarterback. Want people to hit the quarterback.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: The better they got everything in their advantage everything.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: It's really good people.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: They like the franchise is gonna go out their way
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to give them top dollar and may not whatever it is,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you know they like they've got. I try and tell
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: people quarterbacks are really good people. They live really good lives.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Their body only aches on Sundays. Can't feel bad for
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: them when I hit them.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: There is no other physician that rely on so many
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: other factors to succeed.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: In the quarterback position.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, now that doesn't mean that they're you know, they're
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: not an important because when you have the other pieces
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and you have a great quarterback, just like anything else,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you're going to succeed, and you have because they have
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the ball in their hands. But right what it is
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: is it's usually somewhere in between. They're never as good
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: as you know when when at the end of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: game it's always you know, it's the quarterback's fault.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Quarterback's fault.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: It's usually somewhere in between where it's probably not his fault,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: right as much as you want to say his fault.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: And when he wins, when you guys win, it's probably
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: not the reason why you won just because of him.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: So it's usually somewhere in between is where he is.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: But for us, we're blue collar. There ain't no how
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: in it, there ain't nothing, no you got to bring it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: We getting hit every play, We hit every single play,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: and and and that's just how it is. You know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: That's why I love opposition. And the thing is, for
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: one thing I'm gonna say about this, You guys on offense,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: you can elaborate, get that great game plan and put
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: that suite he asked playing on that that you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do this and we're gonna motion that guy.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Then we're gonna we're gonna fake this thing and we'll
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, are you accounting for that dog that beast
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: coming off that defensive line, but to tear that game
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: plan up because that seems like he's blocking them. But nah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: that's Cam Jordan. You can't just block him one on one.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: So that player ain't gonna work. Is he going to
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: wreck the game? And that's what I love about opposition
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: is because it don't matter. We can wreck it and
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: it's all in our hands for the most part.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: What was were you like the first Jordan athlete is that,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: like you know, is that Jason Taylor?
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: You maybe one.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Sap Jason Taylor, Marvin Harrison. There was other athletes before
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: me for sure. Now I don't know from a marketing
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: standpoint of how they did it on their side, but
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I do remember them being Jordan athletes.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, look that you were in the first guys,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Like I say, right around then, I was like, man,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you can wear George like they're clean. Lee was reblocking.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Everybody had them right, some guys like used to probably
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: start off the career. Was that like the end of
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the Astro Turf era, like you know that was that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: was like guys were rocking cleats, shoes ish like they
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: have maybe like the little studs at the bottom.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: You know what. Ye actually right?
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: The actually right that was that was that was at
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: the end of Astro Turf because we had turf and
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: then in two thousand and seven when we moved to
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the still turf, the one with the blood yeah with
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: rubber ye yeah, yeah, yes, exactly exactly. But you know
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: what's funny is Marvin Marvin Harrison was you know, they
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: had them as a brand Jordan athlete when they were
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: on turf all right now.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: They didn't want they didn't want to brand Jordan. Guys
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: are the same thing. So that was my that was
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: my issue at the time.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: They told me one guy, So I kind of, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: say that, Yeah, I gotta make an ex make an exception,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: and look, I need those and they made it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: M hmm. What's your favorite pair of Jordan's mhm.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. I would say I love threes. I
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: really love threes.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I love elevens and ones. So it's either one, three
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: or eleven. That's that's where I'm at all day. And
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: they made a big push for ones right now the
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: last five or six years.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: They come in with some great colorways, super strong with
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: the ones.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I become a one lover. Prior to that,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I was a two. I was eight and twelves because
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the eights you can play basketball and for real, for real, like,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you know, off season. I'm not trying to sprain ankle.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I played basketball for fun. So eight's got the double
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: trap on there.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah you're dead, Yeah yeah, yeah, uh but.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Dang, that's that's fire. The twelves, of course, speak for themselves.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I don't have a narrow foot, so the elevens never
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: felt great like I could walk in them. But them twelves, yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: for wider footed people.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Well see, yeah, I love I loven eleven's. I wasn't
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: playing basketball anyway, so I didn't care.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I was literally just walking back and forth from wherever
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I was walking.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: That's it, that's it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: He was out there with the limp pepper steps. Oh
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you got the eleven though, Yeah, yeah, boy, I can
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: dress those up. I can walk them down. It is
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: what it is. You know, we talked about golf earlier,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: early to the pot or whatever, but I know you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: got you play golf with my MJ's from time to time. Yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and we both know how competitive he is. We know
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you're competitive.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah you know.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Uh, have y'all.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Ever got into it on a golf course? You with
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan or what's the best trash talk that you've
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: ever given? You give him the change trash talk from
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: on the field days when you was gonna flare.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: It up or it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: But well, you know what it's funny is he's actually
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: my partner. So we usually team up, all right, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: we go against whoever we're going against. And that's usually
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: how it goes down, all right, once and then once
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: in a while we play each other if we don't
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: got no one else to play. And that's just how
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: this is how we roll. But I'll say this when
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: you when you see him golfing, Yeah, he got that
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: same look he had when he was ball in his
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: hand versus Utah or versus Cleveland or whatever the game
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: on the line, he makes the crazy crossover fade away dude,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: seventh whole seventeen eighteen, he gotta make a play, got
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: that same look and he and he makes.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: The player and he and he comes through. Is not
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: is nuts man? It is nuts man.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Does how does that even happen? You know? Like how
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: did you and him even become cool like that?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, I grew up like most kids probably
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: you know, in the nineties or whatever eighties you grew
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: up with Michael Jordan Fan and I was lucky enough.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I just got I was in the right place at
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the right time. Ended up being drafted, obviously with the
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Indianapolis Coats. One of his best friends lived in Indianapolis, Okay,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: So I got invited to his golf invitation in Bahamas.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: That was in two thousand and three or four. All right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: So the game of golf granted me that opportunity to
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: meet to go. So I went out there, hacked it up,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: sliced the ball, couldn't hit the damn ball worth nothing.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: But I ended up meeting his best friend.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Because he came up to me, say, hey, man, big fan,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I lived in Indianapolis. So what would happen is in
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: the off season they would take the young boy, which
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: was me, and I'll be the tagalong. I'll be like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: you know, hey, call the young boy free. Come on,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: let's tell me we're gonna go here, we go to Vegas.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go where we're gonna go. So I ended
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: up being real cool with his best friend. End up
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: being real cool with m J. And that's just how
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: it rose. And now shoot, I'm with him four times
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: a week. Problem man, golf, golf and that ball trying
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: to figure out what golfing that's about it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: See, I feel like I've been a Jordan Brand athlete
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: for like the last seven or eight years, and I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: feel like I know Marcus Jeordan. You know, I know,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I know Jazmine Jeordan.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm like George.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, haven't met haven't met the man who's whose shoes
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I'll be rocking. I'm it's crazy, man, But listen, one
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: thing you get.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: All you gotta do is pick up the game. Pick
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: up the game of golf first and foremost. I know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I know whatever I know.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Can we played pick a ball?
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Well look there by yourself. The average the average
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: as is like sixty five. You ain't sixty five. You
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: can't play pick the ball.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Flooring, man, Hey, ain't nothing but these old people here
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: but working, working.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Oh god working. I don't want to get out there.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want none of that. One of that bus.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: They give me the business. But you pick up the
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: game of golf. You picked the game.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yea, they come hit your boy up, hit
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: me up, so yo, come to the court, come to
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: the court.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Introduced that. That's it, man.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I just want to you just say, Cam, I'll take
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you to the course. I got nine holds for you,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: just me and you get right. We're gonna keep we
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: gonna keep my little my little sad ass.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: You know, we can keep that between us between us,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I started I started off in Arizona on a great
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: golf course growing up.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, starting on the first t program.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: But eight year old Cam Jordan's walking walking eighteen holes
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: because pop's got to on the first tea program in June,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: July and August in Arizona. Guess who didn't want to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: be there? So I picked up every sport because of golf.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Listen, listen, listen.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: At eight years old walk in the course, they would
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: have lost me. Now, eight years old walking in Arizona.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and one degrees fifteen? Oh dad, what
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: are we doing that?
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: What we're doing?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Man? We can't That's what I'm saying, can't do this.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, basketball is inside. I want that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Uh you know, football is in like the four months.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Okay that you know, all right, let's track and field springtime.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Let's keep that rolling. So that's hey, anything but anything.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But so then you know, and now everybody plays golf
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and everybody's like, yeah, you gotta come golf, and I'm.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Like, I got I got the attention span of a
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: six year old.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I got sixty nine holes. I need a moment.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: You're right, but you know what, Your eyes ain't getting
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: no younger and all playing that basketball, and listen, you're
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: gonna want to pick something else up. That's a good
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: sport to play because you don't gotta run, you don't
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: gotta do nothing, and you can do what you do
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: and that means you talk your network and have a
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: good time.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Facts.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Look, you talk about you you golf with m J
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: four times, four times a week. Huh. That's just impressive.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: And what at what point? At what point did that
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: come about the fourth to fourth week?
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Listen, I'm retired. He's definitely retired.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: So you know when you when when you don't got
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: no job and you don't gotta do nothing. Every day
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: is a Friday, and you go out there, hit the
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: hit the ball and then go chase and go find it,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: then take care of the kids and you get home.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: That's it. That's all I.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Got, right, lifelong friends from golf. I don't know if
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I'm ever gonna have a lifelong friend from golf.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. List.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Listen, you get out there, you get around the right circles,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: you're gonna you don't want to do.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I promise you could tell probably.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Facts, but I'm not good enough to be competitive. So
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: there's only three things that I'm gonna come out for
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: golf For One, some one of my boys I haven't
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: seen in the really long time. He's like, yeah, man
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: me you know college. Two it's a charity event. Or
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: three it's best ball.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I like, can I can help? I just can't leave
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the fact that I can't leave it hurts.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Don't worry.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: As soon as you get your game, all you gotta
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: do is you a feel good ones.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Trust me.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I know I know us and I say us as
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: d Lineman, we competitive. I promise you just you just
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: had him enough good ones. As soon as you start
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: hitting enough good ones.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Facts. This next segment is called fun Facts with Cam
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and Dwight.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You know, so fun facts. I just want to let
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you know. You know, when you're your ten year over
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: at the cold, say my ten yere, young Cam Jordan
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: with the Saints, Uh, did you know the most points
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the Saints have scored in a game versus the Colts
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: was in twenty eleven.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Sixty sixty two to seven and the Superdome.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: If you remember that one Peyton man pay Manning had
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: had the next injury, and.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I tried not to remember that year. I tried not
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: to remember that year. That was the worst year of
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: my entire career. I think we won two games that year.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: It was terrible. It was terrible.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: It was. And the thing is that year we ain't
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: have no preseason because I think we were. It was
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: like lockout, lockout. That was my rookie year, so we
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: had Yeah, we had a lockout. We didn't prepare, we
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: didn't know who. We thought Payton was going to be there.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: So the whole game plan was all centered around Payton
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, which men ain't gonna.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Be out there?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Oh Painter, Painter, not Peyton.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: It was Yeah, it was Painter, not paint as well.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah he got painted, which I remember I remem for
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that game. I think I think I got my first
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: like it might have been one of my first fines.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: It was like intentional. I might have I had a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: later late hit on the quarterback. I was so hungry
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: for a sack man my rookie year, I had won
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that. Whatever was man one hundred, one hundred
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and six seventeen and a half sacks later, We're okay, now, like.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: We're okay, You're good, alright.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Fact number two. Look, so you know the transit between
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the Saints and Coats would continue because you know the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Saints one their only Super Bowl in two thousand and nine.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Versus the Colts. Sir, yes, sir, you know and another
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: moment I try to forget. I try.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: You got what you know you got, but you know.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: What, losing them, Oh, it never goes away. It never
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: goes away. I mean, yes, the win, it stays with
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: you longer, and that brings you to the tough times.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Those ones that you lose.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Man, you can't get them back.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well then we'll we'll finish this on
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: a positive now because you know, your only NFL touchdown
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: was versus the Saints in the Super Bowl.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you something two thousand and three, that game.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Let me let me explain to you were having that game.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I wasn't supposed to play that game, all right, And
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I remember having a crack rib and I was like, okay,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: well you got a crack red. What are gonna do
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: shoot me up. So they injected my little rib right there.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I took all the little drugs I could take. I
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: was high as a kite, couldn't. I mean, I promise you.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I was out there, couldn't feel nothing, couldn't feel nothing.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, why am I even playing this game?
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Why am I even playing this game? My face is numb.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, here we go. And sure enough,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: my only touchdown in my entire career is the game
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: that ethnically I probably shouldn't have played because I had
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: a crack rib.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Jeez man, look I should I should have too, but
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I only got one.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: My first one.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: First one was my first one was an interception off
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: massed effort and the end zone.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't even get no yack. I ain't get no
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: yack with.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: It big.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Already, that's a tuddy.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: There should have been a second one against against the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Rams Jared goff uh Trey Henderson sack fumble.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I school.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I run eighty seven to the tuddy, eighty seven forty
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: yards in. The referee blows it dead, and of course
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: nobody hears it because everybody's chasing me.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I'm a hook.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm scored.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I dunk on a gold pull or whatever it was.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Whatever it was like, I'm like, I'm like, hell, yeah,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: you know you look back, you see a flag. You're like, no,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: not a flag.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: But whatever they was done.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: It was everybody over celebration, straight to the side.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: At least it was it was. It was a confirmed fumble.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So say the same office. Okay, okay, yeah, but god
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: when I tell you I'm on the sideline like you
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: run eighty seven after a drive where they came down
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: it was like a ten play drive.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: You will mustn't. Hey, listen, listen. You must have been
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: pushing it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: You must have been wasn't Was it third? I was
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: third guy in goodness.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Man either way. So whatever that is, but that that
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: was mine. So at least we got two together. You
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: We don't get, but we'll take it. We don't get,
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: but we will take it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Think every single time I appreciate you tapping in on
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the pod, Big Dog off the edge of Cam Jordan's v.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Dwight Freeni, Hall of Famer Dwight Freenie, Oh Pro Dwight Freeni,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl Champ Dwight FREENI Pro Bowl Dyke, Dwight Freedi.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, what else can you say? You know, there's
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: nothing that you that you didn't set your mind to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that you accomplished in this game of football. I appreciate
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you taking the time with the pot man.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you having me. I said, we got to stay together.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Get his quarterbacks. Please just keep heading them facts.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: If there's opportunity given, there's gonna be a opportunity to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: take advantage of absolutely, man. I appreciate Dwight for tapping
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: in with the podcast. I appreciate my man for dropping
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: knowledge advice for the young, the old, me, them, they
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: whoever needs to hear it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: That's mister spin cycle right there. That's mister mister speed
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: the power.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: You know that was that was og. Hey, I'm rocking
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Jay's on my feet and you know what I'm saying,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: that heat on the fee is gonna be a game changer.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: It may made me as a kid want to spend
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: It made me as a man want to be a
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: part of the Jordan brand. And you know so it's
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: a big shout out to the O g legend. You know,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I think that over his career sixteen years NFL clearly
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, because now you know it ain't no
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: will be a Hall of Famer. He is a Hall
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: of Famer. Dwight Freeney, appreciate you for tapping in on
• 48:01
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• 48:05
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• 48:08
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• 48:27
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