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- 0:00Welcome to unspoken career truths.
- 0:02I'm Cara Wood. And I'm Lauren Levac Gilbert.
- 0:05And we're here to be the Co workers you can trust.
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- 0:19Hello everyone and today's episode we are going to talk
- 0:23about influence. So influence I feel like has
- 0:27many different connotations, but I wanted to actually define it
- 0:31like dictionary define it. It means the capacity to have an
- 0:36effect on the character development or behavior of
- 0:40someone or something or the effect itself.
- 0:44That is the definition of influence.
- 0:46Got it, Cara. Yes.
- 0:48And I'm trying to think if there's any surprises in that.
- 0:52But that makes sense, right? Yeah.
- 0:56And I also am glad it's more than just behavior because I
- 0:59think a lot of times when I think influence, I think that I
- 1:02can influence. Behavior, the perfect segue into
- 1:06exactly what I was going to say, which is that influence is a
- 1:10really powerful word and it's a powerful skill.
- 1:14And but sometimes it can get kind of misconstrued with
- 1:18manipulation, which is very, very different.
- 1:21But sometimes when I talk about influence, I know other people
- 1:24kind of get like, oh, like that feels like fake or it feels
- 1:28facilitated or it feels like manipulation.
- 1:31But there's very different intent in both of those things.
- 1:34That is interesting because yeah, I did.
- 1:36My mind went to Puppet Master. My mind went to like, you can
- 1:39sway someone and then they aren't making their own choices.
- 1:42So influence is about it, like enrolling people, like in a
- 1:47shared goal, a shared vision, and manipulation is about
- 1:53tricking people into advancing your own agenda.
- 1:57So the intent is very different. And the way that I like think
- 2:00about it in my brain is that influence builds trust and then
- 2:04manipulation breaks it. Nice.
- 2:07And So what are some examples, I mean like examples of things
- 2:11that you're supposed to do to be that person that builds trust
- 2:14instead of instead of eroding it.
- 2:18Well, I think the thing about influence and those things that
- 2:21that help you get there is that you need to understand also the
- 2:24place it has in in business and work in your career.
- 2:28And I think the big piece of that is it doesn't matter what
- 2:33your title is necessarily. You can have more influence at
- 2:37different levels if you're more skilled at it.
- 2:39So example to your point, like building credibility just as
- 2:44yourself as your brand within your organization, when you say
- 2:47something, you follow up and you actually get it done and you
- 2:51achieve it. And people know that and people
- 2:52see that. And then that builds trust,
- 2:55which can then also build influence.
- 2:59Got it. Do you have any examples, Carl
- 3:01on your side about? Like other ways that people have
- 3:06built influence and trust. I mean, I think that it also
- 3:11comes down to understanding because if we are talking,
- 3:15you're building trust, you're building free will.
- 3:16It's like understanding and giving people the reason to do
- 3:20something, so incentivizing them.
- 3:21And you talked about brands can build trust just like people
- 3:24can. And I think if I think of
- 3:27someone who's manipulating you, they might have like a favor
- 3:30swap versus when you're behind a leader that is actually
- 3:35credible, it's because they've inspired you with their vision.
- 3:38A. 100% And that when you think of organizations and like
- 3:43influence in the workplace, the topic that always comes to my
- 3:46mind is let's say you have like a new idea.
- 3:50Or if I use like an example from my past, like I had created this
- 3:54kind of like new strategy and I wanted everybody to get on board
- 3:57and I wanted their perspective. And I really wanted to have like
- 4:00a joint conversation. And it was going to be a big
- 4:02meeting. So there were probably going to
- 4:04be like 15 different people in the meeting.
- 4:06So what I did beforehand was I had alignment with each of those
- 4:11individuals. And I said like, hey, this is
- 4:13how I'm thinking about it. This is my perspective.
- 4:16This is where I see you fitting in.
- 4:18And so then going into the meeting, nobody felt like they
- 4:22were being attacked. Nobody felt like they were
- 4:25blindsided. And we had a really
- 4:27collaborative conversation because I helped to influence
- 4:32the alignment conversation that happened around, hey, this
- 4:35strategy works for us. We see how it makes sense to us.
- 4:38We think that we can implement it, and here's why.
- 4:42But that took a lot of. A lot of background work you're
- 4:46reminding me of. There's someone I used to work
- 4:49with who did that so well because not only did she just
- 4:53straight up say to you like, get this alignment, she actually
- 4:56asked you your, her, your input. And so she'd get input from
- 5:00every stakeholder before the meeting where all the
- 5:03stakeholders came together. And again, it was only made
- 5:05sense in these like really extreme like cases where you're
- 5:09like, hey, I know this is important.
- 5:11And maybe sometimes when you have someone in the room who
- 5:14you're who you're concerned isn't going to buy in, if you
- 5:17invite them to the table early and see what their concerns are
- 5:21ahead of time, you can sometimes, you know, address
- 5:25them with your argument once you've heard them.
- 5:27So that's really fascinating. Yeah.
- 5:30And it at the end of the day, we've talked about this on some
- 5:32of our other podcasts like Everybody's Human, Everybody
- 5:36wants to feel like they're bringing value.
- 5:38They want to be a part of the conversation.
- 5:40They want to feel like they can influence the strategy and be
- 5:44asked the questions and and have input.
- 5:47And I think the thing about influence is it is very, very
- 5:50heavily relationship based, right?
- 5:53You have to talk to people, you have to understand what
- 5:56motivates them. You have to understand how
- 5:59they're feeling at a certain time and make sure that it's
- 6:03clear that what you're working on or what you need their input
- 6:06on is like helping advance both them and the broader
- 6:10organization. And that's, that's a lot of
- 6:13chatting and relationship building and discussions and
- 6:16just kind of back and forth. And you have to be really kind
- 6:19of comfortable with that to have influence.
- 6:21It's funny because when you started this, I was thinking to
- 6:24myself, well, how are the ways that I've influenced?
- 6:27And I think I go about influencing in another way
- 6:30that's effective, which is it's the action piece of it.
- 6:34It's like the showing up and the like overtime building
- 6:38credibility and what's challenging when you're in that,
- 6:42when you take that tact is that again, these all all these
- 6:44things take time building influence.
- 6:46I think actually it just like takes a lot of time when you're
- 6:49coming into a new situation, you have no reputation, then you
- 6:52have to just kind of again, consistently show sort of over
- 6:55perform. But those that's the way that I
- 6:58historically in my career have built influences.
- 7:00Then people look to you as the person who's either going to get
- 7:03things done or who's going to know kind of how to get things
- 7:07done, which is a is a nice position to be in, but it takes,
- 7:12it takes a while and it takes you producing results.
- 7:16Yeah. And I think that incorporates 2
- 7:18things. I think 1 is the small wins,
- 7:20right? So like set your up for, set
- 7:21yourself up for success, follow up, do the task, say what
- 7:24you're, do what you're saying, right?
- 7:27And then I think the other piece is also like just being very
- 7:31clear about how you can provide value in a situation.
- 7:36And I, I remember I was talking to a very senior leader once and
- 7:41I was like, you know, I was young at the time.
- 7:44And I said, what is the like one piece of advice?
- 7:47Like if you had to give one piece of advice that you think
- 7:49will be the most valuable throughout my entire career.
- 7:51And you know what he said he was like follow up.
- 7:55Yeah, you said. That you're going to do it, you
- 7:59follow up and you complete it and you do it.
- 8:01The follow through is so important and can oftentimes get
- 8:06so lost in so many to do's or busyness or meetings.
- 8:09Or he was like follow up and you will be credible and you will
- 8:12build trust and you will build influence.
- 8:14And I'm amazed at how often people hesitate before following
- 8:18up. Or they'll follow up with me,
- 8:19but then they'll express later that they were concerned or
- 8:22nervous about following up. And so I think there's two sides
- 8:25to it. Like you said, that could be
- 8:26just that you've got this giant To Do List and it's like, no,
- 8:28prioritize the follow up. But it's also like also don't
- 8:31hesitate to follow up because people actually really want to
- 8:33hear from you. And like you said at the start,
- 8:37they want to feel included in decision.
- 8:39So if you're working through something together, hearing what
- 8:42you're thinking and like over communicating can be really
- 8:45powerful way and to influence you're you're in their in their
- 8:49face. It's but in an in a nice
- 8:51supportive way. And a lot of the times sometimes
- 8:55I think the, the pause to like stop and not follow up or like
- 8:59be concerned about that is because maybe they have nothing
- 9:01to say. But something I do quite often
- 9:04is I'll respond and just be like, I don't have an answer.
- 9:06I'm working on it. You'll hear from me in 2 weeks,
- 9:09like just an answer so it doesn't go into the abyss.
- 9:13Or even like with some of the senior leaders that I work with,
- 9:16they really like to know kind of updates.
- 9:18So even if I don't have an update, I say no update meeting
- 9:21this time. Just be clear, no, I'm on it.
- 9:24And obviously everybody's different and you have to kind
- 9:26of understand everybody's style, but just not letting things kind
- 9:29of flow into the abyss. Yeah, no, it makes sense.
- 9:33And then last thing I think that's really important about
- 9:35influence is storytelling. And I think that came through a
- 9:40bit in my example of aligning with people beforehand and then
- 9:43bringing it up to the broader meeting.
- 9:46Storytelling is a super interesting, super important
- 9:50talent to learn. It will be a topic that we will
- 9:53eventually cover, but thinking about how you can use
- 9:56storytelling to explain the value of what you're working on,
- 10:00get people on board with you, help them advocate for you
- 10:04outside of what you're doing too.
- 10:05It's just a really important skill for influence that is
- 10:08something to continue to hone throughout your entire career.
- 10:12Yeah. And one of my favorite things
- 10:13about storytelling is actually, if you think of your best
- 10:16storytellers, there are people who plant images in your mind so
- 10:21that you actually end up Co creating the meaning of the
- 10:24story. And so when you're thinking
- 10:25about those stories that you want to tell, make space for the
- 10:28person to connect the dots, make the meaning.
- 10:32People who I think of as great storytellers, they, they start
- 10:35to paint a picture that you relate to yourself and you start
- 10:38to imagine yourself in that story.
- 10:41And that's where, again, you can really influence and sort of
- 10:43brain worm in and have people easily remember because it's
- 10:47about them or it was something that they could start to
- 10:50imagine. And for our audience, Car is an
- 10:53incredible storyteller and I rely on her so much to help me
- 10:57with that. So I just wanted to give you big
- 10:58kudos for that, Cara. Thank you.
- 11:01OK, so just to close out, remember, influence isn't about
- 11:05waiting until you have the big title or you're working on this
- 11:09really important strategic initiative.
- 11:11It can happen in day-to-day practices.
- 11:14Just think about storytelling, think about where people are
- 11:17coming from from an empathy standpoint.
- 11:20Try to listen more than you're talking and really think about
- 11:25those small wins that you can have throughout your career to
- 11:28help you get there. Amazing.
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