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Bonus Episode: How Matt Patricia Is Adjusting To A New-Look Buckeye Defense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: This is a special bonus episode for you. We have
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Speaker 1: reached the point of the year where we have a
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Speaker 1: the good problem of we have more good content than
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Speaker 1: we do have days between now and kickoff of the
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Speaker 1: ball State game. We are under three weeks to go
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Speaker 1: to the start of the Ohio State football season, and
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Speaker 1: we had a lot of stuff to share with you.
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Speaker 1: On today's show, You're going to get to hear a
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Speaker 1: bunch from new Ohio State defensive coordinator Matt Patricia. I
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Speaker 1: guess he's not new this year, relatively new on the
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Speaker 1: grand scale of things, but he had a lot of
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Speaker 1: interesting stuff to say about a guy who actually is
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Speaker 1: a new coach on this year's team. First question Matt
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Speaker 1: Patricia got asked was about Arthur Smith, the new offensive coordinator. Now,
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Speaker 1: both of those guys are former NFL head coaches, former
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Speaker 1: NFL coordinators, so they have a lot of experience and
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Speaker 1: a lot of wisdom that they can bring to the
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Speaker 1: college game. What has it been like for Matt Patricia
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Speaker 1: to have Arthur Smith around and what kind of a
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Speaker 1: benefit has that been to him?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so much fun to have him here, and you
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Speaker 2: know it's great obviously just practice all.
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Speaker 3: The stuff that we're doing trying to work against each other.
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Speaker 2: Different looks, different ideas, and I'm certainly looking at his
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Speaker 2: eyes saying, hey, scout the defense for me here. Let
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Speaker 2: me know what you see some of maybe the disguis
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Speaker 2: looks different packages, which is great because he's seen a
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Speaker 2: bunch of that before and you know, kind of is able.
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Speaker 3: To speak that.
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Speaker 2: But we have a lot of fun talking about old
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Speaker 2: stories too, which is great. You know, the history of
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Speaker 2: the game is really important to both of us, and
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Speaker 2: he's got a great history of the game, you know,
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Speaker 2: so it's it's fun to tell those stories back and forth.
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Speaker 2: And I think what's really cool is, you know, look,
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Speaker 2: we're just so blessed and lucky to be here at
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Speaker 2: Ohio State with coach Day who brought us both in
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Speaker 2: from the NFL and kind of let us, you know,
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Speaker 2: get that joy of coaching and watching him maybe you know,
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Speaker 2: maybe go through that a little bit of what I
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Speaker 2: was experienced last year is kind of fun.
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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia took kind of a big leap of faith
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Speaker 1: last year, jumping after more than two decades in the
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Speaker 1: pros back into the college game. So when Arthur Smith
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Speaker 1: was thinking about making that move, what did Matt Patricia
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Speaker 1: share with him about his experience at the college level
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Speaker 1: last year?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I talked to him a lot actually
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Speaker 2: before and during the process, just because he's such a
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Speaker 2: great coach.
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Speaker 3: I have so much respect for him, and.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've gone through similar things, you know,
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Speaker 2: in our careers in the NFL. And maybe my perspective of,
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Speaker 2: you know, getting back to around a bunch of great, great,
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Speaker 2: great young men and coaching and how wonderful that is
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Speaker 2: and maybe just telling them, you know, reminding.
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Speaker 3: Him of that a little bit was cool, I think
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Speaker 3: from that aspect of it.
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Speaker 2: And then just you know, there's always kind of the
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Speaker 2: normal questions like, Hey, what's the difference between the NFL
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Speaker 2: and college, what's the schedule, what's this look like?
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Speaker 3: You know, how's what we're doing?
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Speaker 1: All that. Suff Every time we talk about the Ohio
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Speaker 1: State defense for twenty twenty six, the conversation always kind
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Speaker 1: of starts with all the guys who aren't here anymore.
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Speaker 1: No more Caleb Downs, no more overall Reaes, no more
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Speaker 1: Sunny Styles, eight starters and all gone from last year's defense.
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Speaker 1: So do you have to change your expectations and your
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Speaker 1: plans because of all those guys and the fact that
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Speaker 1: they're not coming back.
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Speaker 2: No, no, I wish, you know, it was good, but
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're kicking it off tonight and this weekend,
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Speaker 2: so good for them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 2: So we had like fifty one new players I think
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Speaker 2: overall on the team, and certainly with the young guys
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Speaker 2: and the transport guys. It's just a completely different group,
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Speaker 2: you know, And I think the great thing that's been
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Speaker 2: interesting to watch through the course of the Spring and
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Speaker 2: the summer really is those different personalities coming from different areas, right,
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Speaker 2: So whether it's you know, two from one school in
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Speaker 2: the SEC, another from the ACC, another from the Big Ten,
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Speaker 2: and just kind of watching those cultures kind of come
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Speaker 2: in the building and then get on the Buckeye culture
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Speaker 2: here has pretty you know, pretty cool. And then watch
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Speaker 2: our young guys that are you know, that have been here.
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Speaker 3: Really kind of emerged to lead and kind of showing
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Speaker 3: the way.
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Speaker 2: Has been has been really neat Now schematically, obviously, we're
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out what every wey can do because
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Speaker 2: we haven't had that development with a lot of these guys,
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Speaker 2: and they've all done different things in different places.
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Speaker 3: So Spring was good to see it. Camp is really
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Speaker 3: important right now really as we're working.
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Speaker 2: On some fundamentals and stuff to see how those schemes
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Speaker 2: work with some of the fundamental techniques that these guys
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Speaker 2: can actually do.
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Speaker 1: That every dark cloud has its silver lining. So when
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Speaker 1: you lose all those guys last year, does that maybe
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Speaker 1: open up some different things this year that maybe you
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Speaker 1: could can do this year that you couldn't last year.
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Speaker 3: That's a good one.
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Speaker 2: I think the last year well was cool was certainly
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Speaker 2: the guys right here, you know, with you obviously great players.
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Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing for me.
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Speaker 2: Was figuring out what could they do, you know, what
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Speaker 2: do they do well, and how do we fit that
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Speaker 2: into things, you know, team wise that they can do
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Speaker 2: well and play fast. I feel we're probably still in
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Speaker 2: the same boat and just there's probably no history behind
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Speaker 2: a couple of years of watching them kind of grow
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Speaker 2: and develop, so or you have to evaluate that soon
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Speaker 2: to figure.
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Speaker 3: Out what do they do now?
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Speaker 2: And yes, I think there are different skill sets on
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Speaker 2: the field now than maybe that what we had last year.
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Speaker 3: Not better or worse, just different. So it is really
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Speaker 3: trying to figure out what do they do well now?
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Speaker 1: Every fall there are always these storylines that turn into
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Speaker 1: just constant things that we're just always talking about. One
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Speaker 1: of them this year is the four to three versus
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Speaker 1: the four two five, And you know, do they want
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Speaker 1: to play nickel as much as they used to? Are
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Speaker 1: they going to play more three linebacker looks this year?
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Speaker 1: They certainly have a lot of flexibility there. So how
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Speaker 1: do you weigh those two different schemes, of those two
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Speaker 1: different looks against each other.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I do think we have a lot
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Speaker 2: of flexibility, which is nice in both in both groups,
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Speaker 2: which is great. Hopefully we can use both in those situations.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know, the game of football kind of
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Speaker 2: cycles through, you know, and what is what was old
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Speaker 2: is new and as kind of nice person.
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Speaker 3: So I see a lot more of those bigger groupings
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Speaker 3: coming back.
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Speaker 2: So obviously the bigger the offense gets, then we have
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Speaker 2: to be able to hold up to that, and so
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Speaker 2: maybe the third line background the field is important in
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Speaker 2: that situation. And then being able to have the multiple
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Speaker 2: flexibilities of dbs is good because I think that puts
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Speaker 2: a lot of stress on the offense. So I do
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Speaker 2: think we, you know, have to try to figure out
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Speaker 2: a way to do that as much as possible.
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Speaker 1: Back in the spring, we thought we had a very
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Speaker 1: good idea of what the secondary was going to look like,
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Speaker 1: so a ton of three safety lineups, and then this
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Speaker 1: fall really haven't seen any of those, or very few
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Speaker 1: of them anyway, really mostly seeing again four to three
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Speaker 1: with three linebackers on the field, or a lineup with
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Speaker 1: the nickel but with three corners out of there with
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Speaker 1: Jay Timmins in the slot. Really been the lineup for
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Speaker 1: the most part this fall. So is that three safety
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Speaker 1: look going away?
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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that happens for us defensively,
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Speaker 2: he's always you always have to also look at to
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Speaker 2: see what offensive personnel is.
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Speaker 3: On the field.
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Speaker 2: So in some of those different groups, it could be
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Speaker 2: personnel based on what we're seeing that you know, just
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Speaker 2: have that different mix of players on the field, and
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Speaker 2: I think being in between, you know, if you do
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Speaker 2: have to have three safeties on the field against like a.
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Speaker 3: Bigger personnel group, can you hold up for Kenya not?
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Speaker 2: If you don't, then you go to bigger obviously personnel
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Speaker 2: up front, And some of that I think in the
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Speaker 2: back end is honestly figuring out because there are new
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Speaker 2: players on the field. What exactly are they are they
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Speaker 2: shake these you know, nickels quarters like, you know, I
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Speaker 2: think we're still evaluating that through the spring and trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out, you know.
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Speaker 3: What are what are the best positions for those guys.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just debous.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: We'll let Texas Favors.
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Speaker 1: Mentioned that they lost eight starters off of last year's defense.
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Speaker 1: One of the guys they did not lose is Kenyatta Jackson.
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Speaker 1: So how big was it to get him back? Very
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Speaker 1: He seems like he's going to be a very big
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Speaker 1: piece said the puzzle at defense end this year.
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Speaker 3: It's been great.
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Speaker 2: You know, I love to be around Kenyatta and certainly
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Speaker 2: watching him grow, you know, just even from last.
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Speaker 3: Year getting on the field, having an optunity to go.
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Speaker 2: Play, watching him kind of really develop his skill set
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Speaker 2: for the season, but now giving a whole other toolbox
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Speaker 2: that I think we've built on top of what he
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Speaker 2: did last year, which is really cool to watch him
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Speaker 2: do that. So, you know, look, he's obviously a great
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Speaker 2: player for us. He's out of the field and he's
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Speaker 2: a leader for us, and you know, we're going to
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Speaker 2: lean on him as much as we can for sure.
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Speaker 1: Last year's defense, they had the luxury of guys like
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Speaker 1: Sonny Styles and Arvel Reese and Caleb Downs, where not
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Speaker 1: only were they incredible athletes, they were also guys that
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Speaker 1: could just kind of do it all whatever you wanted
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Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, sure they can do that. So do
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Speaker 1: they have guys who can do that this year to
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Speaker 1: give them that kind of flexibility.
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Speaker 2: You know, last year we were really blessed to be
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Speaker 2: able to do that with those guys. I think everybody
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Speaker 2: knows that.
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Speaker 3: I think this year, I don't know, you know, I
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Speaker 3: think we're trying to figure that out.
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Speaker 2: Interesting for us this week, right, So we're in pads,
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Speaker 2: full pads finally were you know, long practices. So this
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Speaker 2: week is a heavy fundamentals week, you know, just getting
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Speaker 2: that work in, get through the end of the week,
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Speaker 2: evaluate that what that looks like, and then I think,
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Speaker 2: you know, as we work towards the next week, we'll
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Speaker 2: start to kind of maybe mix some packages and see
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Speaker 2: what that actually looks like.
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Speaker 3: And the biggest thing for me when you lose the
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Speaker 3: players that walk out the door last.
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Speaker 2: Year has to be the communication and even though the
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Speaker 2: talent might be there to do it, if we can't
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Speaker 2: communicate it on the field, it really doesn't matter at
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Speaker 2: that point because what we can have with them at
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Speaker 2: any year or bust to play. So maybe put the
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Speaker 2: stress on them next week with some of that really
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Speaker 2: heavy communication to see if we can do that.
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Speaker 1: Communication is one of those things that college football coaches
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Speaker 1: get absolutely obsessed over this time of year, on both
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Speaker 1: sides of the ball and on defense. When you're looking
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Speaker 1: at communication, does that start with guys who are veterans
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Speaker 1: like Jalen McLain.
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Speaker 2: We'll always kind of put the stress of the communication
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the defense because obviously then they
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Speaker 2: can echo out, you know, to their side. So the
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Speaker 2: linebacker sitting in the middle, it's gonna.
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Speaker 3: Start with, you know, certainly Peyton and Christian, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, TJ and Riley are coming along with your long
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Speaker 2: Rye too, which is great. And some of the young
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Speaker 2: guys too stepping up. And then the safety who passed
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Speaker 2: to communicating. Certainly Jalen, you know, being here under me
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Speaker 2: last year, the burbage is the same for him, and
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Speaker 2: so now it's just kind of relating some of the
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Speaker 2: burbie wed last year to Hey, what do you think
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Speaker 2: about this? What do you you know, and it was
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Speaker 2: great last year with Caleb and Jalen back there. We
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Speaker 2: could have these conceptual conversations. And so now it's a
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Speaker 2: lot of me and Jalen having that, you know, as
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Speaker 2: we're trying to catch up those other young players and
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Speaker 2: new players.
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Speaker 3: Two to turn round.
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Speaker 1: Well A State lost all sorts of veterans off of
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Speaker 1: last year's defense, but they also brought in some veterans
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Speaker 1: from other schools like Earl Little from Florida State, Christian
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Speaker 1: a Legro from Wisconsin, James Smith from Alabama. Those guys
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Speaker 1: aren't are they're new here, but they're not new to
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Speaker 1: defense or new definitely not new to college football. So
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Speaker 1: how much is having imported veterans maybe benefit them this year?
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Speaker 2: You know, actually was going to look at this, I think,
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Speaker 2: do we even more snaps on the field potentially this
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Speaker 2: year of guys returning them we did last year? We might, right,
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Speaker 2: we might from that, yeah, at this time, So I
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Speaker 2: think that'll be interesting for me. What I feel about
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Speaker 2: that experience really is, Okay, we get in the game,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be not a hopefully a lot of panic,
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Speaker 2: like you're just going to go experience. I think young
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Speaker 2: players or guys that haven't played a lot, the game
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Speaker 2: can get pretty you know, me a lot of stress,
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Speaker 2: a lot of panic in those deals. And I think
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Speaker 2: what you're looking for is we're a defense to be
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Speaker 2: you know, not panic, patient and be able to read through.
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Speaker 2: So I will lean on that experience to make sure
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Speaker 2: the patience is there schematically, though, you know, I think
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Speaker 2: it'll be whatever we feel is best on the field.
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Speaker 1: Of the guys who are back from the previous year,
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Speaker 1: how many guys do they feel like they can really
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Speaker 1: depend on from those returning players.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna lean obviously in the guys that
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Speaker 2: are on the field the most last year, you know,
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Speaker 2: certainly with Jalen and Kja and Jermaine. I like where
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Speaker 2: Peyton's at, you know, in the middle of defense. He
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Speaker 2: played a little bit for us last year, which was
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Speaker 2: great for sure. Guys up front, you know, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: have to lean on Edric and certainly Will Smith and
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Speaker 2: some of those guys to be able to.
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Speaker 3: Kind of hold up in there. So it's been good.
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Speaker 3: We've actually been rotating a bunch of guys. It's been fun.
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Speaker 1: One of the guys they have to place from last
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Speaker 1: year's team is nose tackle Cayden McDonald. He was just
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Speaker 1: an absolute force in the middle of that defensive line.
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Speaker 1: It is not something they have every year, So if
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Speaker 1: you're trying to replace Cad McDonald's, that's something you just
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Speaker 1: almost by necessity, have to just do by committee. This year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'll be committee early on.
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Speaker 2: I do. I really think, especially as we kind of
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Speaker 2: work through the season and gain experience by those guys,
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Speaker 2: and certainly from you know, throughing the year, you kind
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Speaker 2: of trying.
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Speaker 3: To build those reps up as you get ready from
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Speaker 3: the long halt, committee would be great.
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Speaker 2: It's really hard to replace really good players in the
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Speaker 2: middle of the defense. I do believe that though. I
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Speaker 2: believe it's important to be strong in the middle of
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Speaker 2: the defense, and certainly coming from my background at New
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Speaker 2: England and having guys like you know, whether it's Keith
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Speaker 2: Trailer or Vinci will Forth or you know, any of
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Speaker 2: those guys Ted Washington back in the day.
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Speaker 3: I mean, those are some big boys rolling through there.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think if you coach linebackers and kind of sit
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Speaker 2: in that second level, the bigger those dudes.
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Speaker 3: Are upfront, the more comfortable you feel, so you'll like
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Speaker 3: that for sure.
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Speaker 1: How much time do you spend thinking about what you
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Speaker 1: have to replace and what you lost after last year's
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Speaker 1: team versus figuring out, okay, you just set everything from
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Speaker 1: last year's side and you just start from scratch and
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Speaker 1: figure out what you're good at this season.
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Speaker 2: You know, I would say this, I think last year
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Speaker 2: was great. Those guys were unbelievable. I was, you know,
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Speaker 2: super lucky that, you know, so much fun to be
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Speaker 2: around those guys, and and really the process up to draft,
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Speaker 2: post draft training camp, being in contact with them, talking
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Speaker 2: to them through camp and you know, excited for them
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Speaker 2: for this weekend is awesome.
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Speaker 3: And I love that.
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Speaker 2: I love that relationship and I love, you know, love
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Speaker 2: hearing from them, and I you know, I love having
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Speaker 2: that connection with them for sure. But as far as
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Speaker 2: this year, you know, we just you have to move on.
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Speaker 2: You know, every year's a new year and you start over,
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Speaker 2: and that's what we had to do. So it's really
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Speaker 2: we've moved on from last year. From that as far
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Speaker 2: as the Buck guys on field, you know what we had,
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Speaker 2: and now it's really trying to figure out what we.
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Speaker 3: Have this year.
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Speaker 1: We spent a bunch of this fall talking about three
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Speaker 1: linebacker sets that is the three in the fourth if
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Speaker 1: you hear us talking about a four to three defense,
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Speaker 1: and it looks like they will probably be playing more
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Speaker 1: three linebacker sets this year. So what has Matt Patricia's
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Speaker 1: seen from the linebackers so far this camp that has
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Speaker 1: him feeling good about their ability to do that?
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Speaker 2: I think last year, obviously, I'll take two sixty five,
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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty five pound guys that were like anytime,
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Speaker 2: those are great, but we really we have like two,
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Speaker 2: you know, like like two guys out there that we
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Speaker 2: were kind of rolling. I feel to your point, I
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Speaker 2: feel like we have a good depth group that is
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Speaker 2: all learning and kind of really growing at the same time.
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Speaker 3: So that, I think is what's really neat is that
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Speaker 3: Peyton's in.
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Speaker 2: TJ's in, Riley's in, you know, Eli leeahs in, Christian's in,
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Speaker 2: and I feel like, hey, we're good. Communication is good,
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Speaker 2: front is good, we can play the run game. I
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Speaker 2: feel like when you have those waves of players, I
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Speaker 2: do think it kind of like gives you a little
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Speaker 2: bit of advantage, you know, as you get through all
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Speaker 2: the games.
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Speaker 3: So I like where they're at I like your progress.
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Speaker 3: I like them taking ownership of the defense.
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Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing, you know, you always got to
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Speaker 2: take someone's got to be you know, in front of
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Speaker 2: the huddle and and sort of the.
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Speaker 3: Linebackers do it the most. So I like that group
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Speaker 3: right now. It's fun.
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Speaker 1: Last year's team had so many individual stars. This year's
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Speaker 1: team is certainly going to have it standouts. But is
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Speaker 1: this maybe a team where you're gonna just see more
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Speaker 1: different guys on the field.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably good way to look at.
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Speaker 2: I think we got I think we have a lot
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Speaker 2: of really good depth players this year.
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Speaker 3: I do, I really do. I want to make sure
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Speaker 3: that I'm right spots. I want to do the best.
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