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The Matchmaker · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Tambra Judge. Hi, guys,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of to Teas and a Pod
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  Speaker 1: with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tambrichudge.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: We are so excited to have Carlos king on. Carlos
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  Speaker 1: was the executive producer of season six through nine on
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta. He was also the executive producer
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  Speaker 1: for two seasons of the Real Housewives New Jersey. We
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  Speaker 1: are going to be recapping Sunday Nights episode of Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta with Carlos, and we are so excited
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  Speaker 1: to get all of his hot takes, because guys, it
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  Speaker 1: was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Let's ring him in Hilo.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Carlos, Hey girls, how's it going.
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  Speaker 4: It's going good now that you're here.
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  Speaker 5: My two favorite blondes in the whole wide world.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's not natural.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, feel beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: I miss you girls, miss seven thousand pairs of tennis
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  Speaker 4: shoes in the background.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, Bravo has been very good to me
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  Speaker 5: early in my career. So thanks, Zanini, Kim Zosiak, another blonde,
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  Speaker 5: Charay and Teresa Judai is your favorite camera.
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  Speaker 3: I can afford shoes.
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  Speaker 2: You can afford shoes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hold on, you brought up something that we just
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  Speaker 1: need to get right on into them because you said
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  Speaker 1: Kim Zoleziac's name. I heard Andy said that it was
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  Speaker 1: not on his bingo card that Kroy and Kim were
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  Speaker 1: were ending it. What are your thoughts, because it's getting
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  Speaker 1: messy now. I saw last night that he requested her
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  Speaker 1: to have a psycho out.
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  Speaker 2: She wants him to have drug tests.
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  Speaker 4: It's getting dirty, Carlos.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see it down and dirty? Listen? I did
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  Speaker 3: not see this coming. So what is so funny? Girls?
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  Speaker 3: I had Kim Zosiak on.
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  Speaker 5: My late night show a year ago, I remember, and
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  Speaker 5: Croy was with her, and I did not see any
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  Speaker 5: signs of anything bad happening. It was as if I
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  Speaker 5: was worked back in season five of Atlanta Housewives, where
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  Speaker 5: Croy was like her main guy, her purse carrier, you know,
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  Speaker 5: her handler.
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  Speaker 3: He was in the studio.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody wants a husband that's a handler.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want a man carry any won't even carry
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  Speaker 4: my purse for me. Ever, He's like nip, I draw
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  Speaker 4: the line right there.
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  Speaker 2: My husband will old mine. If I'm going into the
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  Speaker 2: vat of public restaurant.
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  Speaker 4: Oh ediee, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Like nip.
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  Speaker 5: Honey CROI was doing everything so I did not see
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  Speaker 5: any signs of this happening. When I say to you,
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  Speaker 5: I am shocked. And girls, they got married on eleven,
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  Speaker 5: eleven eleven. So does that mean we can't believe in
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  Speaker 5: numbers anymore than angel numbers?
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  Speaker 4: Those are my numbers? Yeah, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what we're hearing is that the gambling was
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  Speaker 1: just allegedly getting out of hand.
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  Speaker 2: And this is where I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, we've repeatedly seen things in the news about losing
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  Speaker 1: the house and this is happening. But like, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think was the straw that broke the camel's back
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  Speaker 1: if you were to speculate.
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  Speaker 5: If I was to speculate, allegedly, Look, Kim likes a
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  Speaker 5: certain lifestyle. Cam is all about the money, she's all
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  Speaker 5: about the bag, and she's all about her happiness.
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  Speaker 3: Kim believes and.
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  Speaker 5: Asks, believe and receive. And if all of this is true.
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  Speaker 4: Right, she's not receiving.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think she were receiving pain, but not pennies, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was a matter of him likes to
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  Speaker 5: live a lavish lifestyle and if money is not coming in,
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  Speaker 5: Kim is going out.
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  Speaker 4: Well I'm sure financially was a big issue between them
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  Speaker 4: that split them up. But I really did think that
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  Speaker 4: they were going to make it, like if you saw
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  Speaker 4: a couple of these seem like they're in love. I
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  Speaker 4: was a little bit shockeder than you think of the
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  Speaker 4: big picture, Like you just said, she's all about the money.
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  Speaker 4: Well they lost their show. What a couple of years ago? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: what have they been doing since then?
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  Speaker 3: According to KROI gambling?
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  Speaker 4: Honey, Yeah, well that sounded good.
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  Speaker 1: But sometimes did you think that he like with your
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  Speaker 1: experience with him, do you think he's a good guy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he's listened. Roy is a great guy.
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  Speaker 5: And what's so funny, No one knows this because back
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  Speaker 5: in season four, which was eleven years ago, you could
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  Speaker 5: not break the fourth wall, right, You had to pretend
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  Speaker 5: a housewife introduced people to each other.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the one who introduced Froy to Kim. It was me. What, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's me.
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  Speaker 2: It's always the problem. It's me.
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  Speaker 3: It's about the problem. So let me tell you what happened, ladies.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I was so remember when Charay was doing the
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  Speaker 5: Atlanta local version of Dancing with the Stars. Yes, okay no,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm like da da da da, So Croi was
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  Speaker 5: the celebrity right, in addition to Charay and some other
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  Speaker 5: local Atlanta celebrities. Him Zosiak attended she was away from
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  Speaker 5: Big Papa at the time. She broke up with DJ
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  Speaker 5: Tracy right, and she said to me, Carlos, he's hot,
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  Speaker 5: and I said he is. I said, stay right here.
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  Speaker 5: I approached Croy and said, look, my girl likes you.
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  Speaker 5: She thinks you're hot. It's the hot blonde over there.
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  Speaker 5: He said, I want to talk to her because I'm
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  Speaker 5: still a producer. I said, camera's up, and we captured
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  Speaker 5: that moment.
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  Speaker 3: Look at Teddy's reaction.
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  Speaker 5: We captured that moment of them being for the first time.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why when they were engaged, Kim Zosiak told
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  Speaker 5: me first. She said, we're getting married and you have
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  Speaker 5: to be the producer. And Kim Zosiak is the reason
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  Speaker 5: why I got my first executive producer credit because of that.
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  Speaker 4: That's your show, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And have you spoken to her since all this?
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  Speaker 5: What I know about Kim is she's bombarded with texts
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  Speaker 5: and Kim doesn't like.
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  Speaker 3: This may sound funny, but it's true.
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  Speaker 5: Kim doesn't like a lot of attention on her when
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  Speaker 5: the cameras aren't rolling camera, when the cameras aren't Yeah, if.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not getting paid, I'm not interested in the attention.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, she's not, so I know that she's getting bombarded.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm waiting until everything dies down, and I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to reach out to her and invite her to dinner
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  Speaker 5: to let her know that I'm being a friend and
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  Speaker 5: not somebody who's trying to get the tea right. But
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  Speaker 5: Kim is fine. Kim is always always going to be fine.
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  Speaker 2: And did you ever actually meet Big Papa?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you did, Absolutely, he would be on set.
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  Speaker 4: He would be on set, but not on care do
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  Speaker 4: you think she's gonna find Big Papa.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just say Kim likes big pockets.
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  Speaker 5: So whether it's Big Papa, whether it's you know, a
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  Speaker 5: hot blinde who's a DJ, if you want to be
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  Speaker 5: with Kim Zoziac, you gotta have Jeff Bezos type of money,
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  Speaker 5: or at least you know, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure Croy had.
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  Speaker 4: Financially, he had the money coming in crue.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, might have more money than.
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  Speaker 5: Lady teddy ladies, think about it.
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  Speaker 3: When they met, he was a active NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Player, true, true, You know though, how long was he
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  Speaker 4: a player? Until?
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  Speaker 5: I would say up until like four years after they
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  Speaker 5: got married.
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  Speaker 2: Oh he was okay, okay, all right, he.
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  Speaker 3: Was a Falcons player.
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  Speaker 5: I went to the Falcons game, got in the suites,
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  Speaker 5: no KROI was living it up.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, But when you said player, do you mean
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  Speaker 1: he went on the field for anything more than the
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  Speaker 1: beginning and the end.
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  Speaker 5: Now, look, I play with the balls, but I don't
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  Speaker 5: know football, right, so I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 5: a starting five.
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  Speaker 3: It is five people that starts, right.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Is there any part of you that
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  Speaker 4: thought when this news broke that it was a stunt
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  Speaker 4: because their house has been going in and out of foreclosure,
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  Speaker 4: and she's been the first one to say, you'll all see,
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  Speaker 4: we're fine, we have money. This is a misunderstanding when
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  Speaker 4: you know she was saying that over and over again,
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  Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden they followed for a divorce.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, because I just saw them a year ago. When
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  Speaker 5: I first saw this story, I was like, wait, this
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  Speaker 5: can't be true, because I did not see any signs
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  Speaker 5: of it, and me and Kim are close, and she
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  Speaker 5: gave no indication that they were in a bad place again.
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  Speaker 5: It was a year ago, and things canna happen within
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  Speaker 5: a year, so yes. When I first saw the breaking
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  Speaker 5: news and TMZ, my first reaction was, this isn't real?
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  Speaker 3: Is this publicity was going on?
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  Speaker 5: And then as I started to read more into the
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  Speaker 5: documents and what they were saying, That's when I realized,
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  Speaker 5: oh shit, this is real, real, and I feel horrible
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  Speaker 5: for Kim.
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  Speaker 4: That was one of my questions. Do you think this
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  Speaker 4: is going to spark her career?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 5: Listen, one thing you and I both know is all
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  Speaker 5: press is good press, and Kim Zosiak is a hot
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  Speaker 5: name around town right now based on what we've been
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  Speaker 5: watching on Atlanta Housewives for the past couple of seasons. Listen,
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  Speaker 5: I'm an advocate for the Ogs. I think what that
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  Speaker 5: show needs is some OG presents. We got Chaa, who's fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: We're seeing Kim's zosiac return this season in a very
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  Speaker 5: limited one episode situation. I want to see a single
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  Speaker 5: Kim with a red Solo cup cigarette in the mouth
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  Speaker 5: driving in the Bentley Cruise Control.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm ready to have her in porch back.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into talking about all things Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: we first have to grow you a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: Jersey because you are also a producer on Jersey for
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  Speaker 1: two seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, two seasons.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, And tonight we are going to be getting Teresa's wedding,
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  Speaker 1: which we will watch, and because we don't have that,
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  Speaker 1: we have to go backwards.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So let's start with where do you stand on
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  Speaker 1: the Melissa and Teresa few?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, before I answer that, I.
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  Speaker 5: Have a bone to pick with the two of you,
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  Speaker 5: the two of us, Yes, and you know.
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  Speaker 4: I listen, it's probably Teddy's fault.
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  Speaker 5: It's always Teddy's because because Teddy Teddy is a journalist
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  Speaker 5: and I call her behind the scenes Teddy Walters, we
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  Speaker 5: do too, you are a journalist. So I'll get into
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  Speaker 5: the Teresa versus Melissa because I have a lot to
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  Speaker 5: say about that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we want to hear it.
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  Speaker 5: But I did not like that you too, change your
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  Speaker 5: opinion and my Tamra judge boys, because Melissa contacted you
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  Speaker 5: too and said what you.
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  Speaker 3: Guys are saying, is it true?
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  Speaker 5: Teresa is Jacqueline that or you know, when Jacqueline was on.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a twat and I listened you guys seemingly did
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  Speaker 5: a retraction.
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  Speaker 1: No, did we not ask her tough questions, because that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. We asked Melissa tough questions that she could answer.
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  Speaker 1: That Teresa, we were not allowed to ask those questions too.
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  Speaker 1: We were told what we could ask and what we couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the difference. And if you have to start protecting,
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  Speaker 1: which I think you talk about, and.
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  Speaker 4: I think you know that, I'm we're both pretty opinionated
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  Speaker 4: and it's not going to take a phone call from
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  Speaker 4: somebody to change our minds at all.
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  Speaker 1: But the episodes have what has been what has changed
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  Speaker 1: our minds because yes, talking to Melissa, who let us
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  Speaker 1: ask her anything that helped.
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  Speaker 2: But then once we kept watching the episodes and we.
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  Speaker 1: Saw the curtain like drop between what was going on
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  Speaker 1: with Louie and all of a sudden, Louis, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he has changed.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Talking about when you guys had Jacqueline on the show, Yes,
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  Speaker 5: and Jacqueline said some things and then Melissa contacted YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Oh we're not talking about Teresa.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about when Jacqueline was on the show
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  Speaker 5: and she said some things about Melissa and Teresa and
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  Speaker 5: then YouTube in an episode where you talked about well,
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  Speaker 5: Melissa contacted us. She said we were saying this. We
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  Speaker 5: didn't say that, and I was like, look Melissa, And
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  Speaker 5: by the way, I like Melissa. I think Melissa is beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: She is Jennifer Lopez of Bravo. I think she is
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  Speaker 5: a very pretty girl.
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  Speaker 2: But YE just said beautiful. And I don't feel like
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be a disc coming on good
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  Speaker 2: We said we didn't. It's not fair that we only
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  Speaker 2: heard one side. We only heard jilts and you have
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  Speaker 2: to we have to hear books.
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  Speaker 4: You have to understand Jacqueline's been out of the public
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  Speaker 4: eye for over ten years now, right, so when she
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  Speaker 4: came on the show, we had no idea what she's
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  Speaker 4: going to say or to fact check at all. Right,
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  Speaker 4: So when we got the call or text or whatever
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  Speaker 4: it was from Melissa, it was her side, and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you should come on and give your side.
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  Speaker 2: So we heard both sides. We never and I messaged
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  Speaker 2: with Jacqueline about this.
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  Speaker 4: Don't give me your sneaky eyes. No, I stop, Carlos,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna come over to your house right now and
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  Speaker 4: knock your shoes off the wall.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, you know, I didn't, you know, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be this this and I said, listen, it's clickbait.
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  Speaker 1: Actually go in and listen to what we said, and
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  Speaker 1: tamer and I heard out both sides.
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  Speaker 3: There are certain things.
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  Speaker 2: That I think that you said, Jacqueline that took it
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  Speaker 2: too far. And there were certain things that Melissa said
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  Speaker 2: that I thought took it too far. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: we do.
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  Speaker 1: We hear both sides, and that's why you're only as
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  Speaker 1: good as last week's episode.
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  Speaker 2: And right now there's a lot of shit going down.
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  Speaker 3: This is juicy, don't you love it? Girl? So listen
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  Speaker 3: that's my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: So I wanted to address it first because you two
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  Speaker 5: are my favorite podcasts besides my.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, so thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm that we got that out of the way, but
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  Speaker 1: now you have to tell us your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: On the future.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's time for the Gorgos to go.
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  Speaker 5: I don't I'm not going to, you know, say anything
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  Speaker 5: badly about them. And I do want to say this.
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  Speaker 5: Melissa is beautiful, She's pretty.
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  Speaker 2: You've told us that. That's like saying I like you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not finished. Melissa is beautiful, She's pretty.
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  Speaker 4: Oh God, here we go again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just move on, Just move on.
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  Speaker 5: Melissa was fantastic for the show a A I mean
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  Speaker 5: fan at one point in time, and please quote me
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  Speaker 5: on this, and I said this to Teresa.
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  Speaker 3: Melissa was fantastic for the show.
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  Speaker 5: She brought some great story out of that franchise, and
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  Speaker 5: you cannot take that away from her. Joe Gorga is
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  Speaker 5: one of the best house husbands of all time, top
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  Speaker 5: top three. Even Joe Gorga is super cemented into the
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  Speaker 5: success of that show due to the gravitas he brought
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  Speaker 5: in the Bravado, and you cannot take that away from
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  Speaker 5: Melissa and Joe.
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  Speaker 3: They were fantastic for the show. Correct, correct.
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  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, this is what happened when you run through the
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  Speaker 5: hamster whill of the same story every season and there's
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  Speaker 5: no light at the end of the tunnel. It's time
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  Speaker 5: is time for someone to hop off the hamster wheel.
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  Speaker 5: And one thing Teresa has done unlike Melissa. Okay, and
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  Speaker 5: this is no shade to Melissa's I report facts. Teresa
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  Speaker 5: has given everything to the show, including her blood type.
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  Speaker 5: She got married, divorced, had babies, went to jail. She
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  Speaker 5: has stood alone against her cousins, her family. She has
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  Speaker 5: never once complained about this is off limits. She has
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  Speaker 5: given everything, the only things just saying, well, on my podcast,
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  Speaker 5: I had nothing off limits. Oh well on the no
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  Speaker 5: I listen, I think when it comes to what's happening
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  Speaker 5: right now, and we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 3: But my point is.
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  Speaker 5: Melissa hasn't even give them one percent of that in
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  Speaker 5: her personal story.
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  Speaker 3: And if I'm wrong, Teddy and Tim or tell me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying that you're wrong hundred percent, But
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  Speaker 1: my question is do you think that you would rather
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: hear more about Danielle and Rachel's personal story?
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  Speaker 2: That's my question.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not saying that at all.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you're basically saying that the show can go on
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  Speaker 4: without one of them.
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  Speaker 5: Quote me on this, The Real Housewives of New Jersey
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  Speaker 5: cannot go on without Teresa Judice.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, it's just Teresa's amazing housewife. I also like Melissa,
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  Speaker 4: and I think she's amazing and.
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  Speaker 2: I love her.
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  Speaker 4: I wish that they could squash it and move on.
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  Speaker 3: I do too. I'm gonna tell you, I think there is.
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  Speaker 2: Season of them trying to squash it.
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  Speaker 4: Just one one more.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm done, I'm over it. I'm bored. Let me
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  Speaker 3: tell you where Melissa went wrong.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Okay, and Tamra, you have proven that the Real Housewives
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: of Orange County cannot move on without you.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is fast.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: She would go out one season and got back the next.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's power. But we'll talk about that later.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Cam Town.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: So when it comes to New Jersey, you need Teresa
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: because she is the epicenter of that show and no
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: matter what she does, she is polarizing to watch, and
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: she understands how to make TV magic with the other women.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Melissa went wrong when she decided to constantly go against Teresa.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: It's one of those things where I would have been like,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: you know what.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Would we be best friends? Never? But for the sake
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: of the bigger picture, I'm.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Going to get along because I want to be able
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: to survive on the show.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I would have done that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I agree with you in certain aspects.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: However, what I didn't like in the finale episode was
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: when it's very clear that Teresa has now pulled Teresa
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: and Louis or it was Louie or whomever pulls Joe
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: aside says he should leave Melissa.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: All of that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: When you say that they're willing to do anything on
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the show, that should have happened on the show, because
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: clearly she had Jen Aiden or Danielle go And.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Do you don't think you think those two went and
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: did that on their own.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: No, so listen, No, I watched the exact same episode.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I believe strongly that Teresa knows no matter what I
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: say about Melissa, whether it's true, a rumor or false,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: my brother would never have my side. So I do
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: believe that when Louie called Joe over, I strongly believe
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Teresa said, I don't want to parts of it, Like,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: if you want to do that, Louis, great, I don't
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: want to parts of it because at the end of
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: the day, it will always come back to me and
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: let's keep it real. Then Teddy walters, Yes, why didn't
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Melissa bring it up on the show If someone accused
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: me of something false like Kyle.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Said, thank you, I said the same thing. I should
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: have brought it out in the beginning.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I would have brought it out.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Why keep it if it's so insanely crazy to the team.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I do, and I said the same thing I would have.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: She had to have known this was going to come
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: out one way or another. If on top of it
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: was the test.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I think it was the test. This was her final
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: because you see her trying to play nice. I think
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in her mind she was saying, and listen, I haven't
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: talked to her about this.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: But she will now she's gonna call you after this hour.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But I thought was listen, because I love you, Melissa,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: love you, love you, Melissa. I can be kind of
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: once you do something to me and you cross the line,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: then you can be a little bit dead to me,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like I have that. Yeah, that that's kind of my
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: personality trait. It's not the best. But my guess was
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: she she's kind of reached her final thing. She heard
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the rumor, Joe confronted her, they talked through it, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: then she just sat there and waited because she knew
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in the back of her mind, Teresa is going to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: make sure one way or another, this comes out on
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: And that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And that and I and I truly believe.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: That, and I think that that's why when Danielle goes
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to talk to her. She's like, you can see Melissa,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: she's baiting her. She's like, is it about me?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Oh oh?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Is it about the cheating?
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Like I think that was her final test and in
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: her opinion or in her mind, Teresa failed it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Teresa did exactly what.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And then again, you know, I look at it in
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: another perspective, like if something doesn't happen on camera, then
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: it's really hard to get it into the show.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I listen, I see it from a whole different lens
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: as a producer and a viewer. If I was Melissa
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: and that happened first day of filming, Joe's in the
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: kitchen making pizza and he's talking to Melissa, can you
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: believe these mfrs had the audacity to meet with me.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: I know, we're trying to like support their wet do
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So, because that did not happen,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: it does beg the question are you trying to hide something?
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: But my first question is was he using a skinny
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Italian pizza oven when he was making a pizza?
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Do you think that Louie is trying to help get
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: the family back together or do you think he's hurting see.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest here.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: And I said this on my podcast. I'm so over
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Teresa versus Melissa as the main story. I watched the
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: first two episodes and I was tuned out. I couldn't
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: take any more of the same recycled storyline. Louie has
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: messaged me, he has said very great things to me
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: about Teresa whatever. So I don't know Louie personally, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I'm just being honest, So I haven't watched the whole
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: season to see that. I did watch last week's episode
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: because it was the finale, and based on what I
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: know personally, I have heard that Louie really tried to
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: make things work, especially when you think about last year's
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: reunion where Teresa hated Margaret and he was like, it's okay,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: it's not that deep, Margaret, I forgive you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: It's all good, and Teresa like, what are you doing?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So allegedly hired bau Didal to Yeah, give us your
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: thoughts on that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: As a producer, if you find out one of the
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: cast members is digging deep into people hiring private investigators,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: all this, is that like off limits? Or is that
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: like I think go for it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I think it's about I think it's off limits, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: I think nobody listen. We have to get back into
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: the show being real but also being fun and being
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: whimsical and not dark. And to me, anything that involves government, police,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: it's dark, dark, and and the audience doesn't care to
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: see that unless it's something that is rooted in reality.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: If you had a.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Choice, yes, and you had one who you could be
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: in a relationship with, would you trust Joe Gorga or
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Louis Moore.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: If I was Theresa?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: No, just if you if you were just a random
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: if you had to bang one of them, if you
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: not bang, be in a relationship. What's the difference somebody
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: managing your money, talking about money, your financials, business, all
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of it. Hold your person, you go pee your.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Mrse That's what I need.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: No, I am basing this off of what I've been
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: seeing because I've never been around Joe personally, nor Louie.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Because Joe has shown.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Me who he was for thirteen years and Louie has
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: shown me one year of stuff. I will go with
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Louie just based on what I've been watching. Ooh, the
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: silence killed me.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Wow, I'm gonna have to take a minute.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to plead the fifth on my response
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: because I disagree.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I Laen, I'm based fear.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like in a sweat right now.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I will say every time that I have met Lou,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I think it's been two times now.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe also, I never met him, So how was when you.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Met him very nice to me?
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I met him out the MTV Awards over a year
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: ago and he was super kind to me. Came up
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: to me, asked me about Eddie cut Fitness, my dog Ryan.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: He knew everything about me.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Because he's a man.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: And then Shannon told me she met him at Bravo
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: con and he's clearly a fan and he knew everything
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: about her. Went down?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: How is this?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: This?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: This, this this, And I'm like, oh wow, that's that's interesting.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna get mad because he's a fan,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: because we love her fans, but oh weird, kind of weird.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: But my question is, no, who else was? I mean,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: my thought know who else was really nice to me
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: when I met them? Randall Limmitt and I just watched
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that Hulu documentary and I'm scared not too.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I haven't watched that yet.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna say Brooks was nice to you. Okay, Well,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Brooks is very.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Nice to me. I just never know hoty of people
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: in general are nice when you meet them.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: So no, That's why the whole Dirty John installment was
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: so genius because they start off nice for reasons. So,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: like I said, I am being very honest because I
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: haven't watched the entire season. Obviously, you two know more
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: than I do about his behavior. I haven't seen it
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: about I haven't seen the whole season because I'm turned
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: off by Teresa versus Melissa's storyline, which is why I'm like,
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: something has to give.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: What if they get rid of Teresa and keep.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Melissa, oh, then burn the show down. It's not gonna
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: take some.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I think they have I think they are keep but
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I think they have to keep both or I don't
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: think Teresa goes.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I think Melissa. This is my opinion. ESA's not going anywhere. Now.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: There's two scenarios that could work. You could spin off
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Teresa into her own land of spin offs, right Louie
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: the Girls blah blah blah, and Teresa makes appearances on
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Jersey as like og frienda Right, Hey, Jennifer Aiden hey, girls.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: That's one case scenario. Obviously, that means Melissa stays. The
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: other case scenario is Melissa's on a pause and they
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: see how things are without her. But to have them
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: both co exist in the same season, I just think
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: it's a recipe for disaster.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: So they need a break.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: There has been talk about Teresa getting the spinoff. I've heard.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know, if it's just chatter on Instagram.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah I would, yeah, I mean, look at that, Look
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: at all the other things we watched.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: We we're open. I can't wait to get off this
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: so I can watch the Bama Rush documentary. Now.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Now we've heard that they're on hold right now.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Until then, Andy said that was a slight click bait.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: He was like, by hold, I mean, it's just we're
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: waiting a little bit longer too.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Like they did with Beverly Hills.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Correct, Let's take a little break and come back and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: switch into a couple additional questions we have regarding Atlanta,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and then recap this episode.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I have a quick question for you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Have you seen the OC trailer?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I have and thoughts on it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: I was underwhelmed because I know there's more to the
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: season a lot. There's a lot more to the season,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: so I thought it started off interesting. Obviously, Honey, you
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: throwing a napkin in someone's faces.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Like genius, that was me behaving?
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Who girlfriend? Oh lord Jesus. So look, I want the
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: world to know this.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: And Tamra's not paying me on Patreon like Robin Dixon
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: with her stories.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: So this is coming straight from the horse's mouth.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: I know a lot of people involved in OC, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: you're hearing it from me. This season of OC is fantastic,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: and the trailer did not give a lot to it,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: which listen, sometimes that happens, but that trailer does not
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: indicate what this season is going to because I heard
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: it is one of the best seasons ever.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Me too, and I lived in that so I was
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: very like you, underwhelmed when I saw it. I think
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: the whole cast was. I think, of having two not
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: so great seasons that they should have put a little
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: bit more punched to the trailer. They didn't have to
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: expose at all, but I felt like it needed a
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: little more drama.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Teddy Walters believed that they wanted to under deliver on
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the trailer so that when it comes to the show
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: people will be excited again and they'll be like.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know at all. I disagree with that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Well why because you think that New York is going
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to be the world's best season.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, but that was a great trailer.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I felt like they could have they could
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: have balanced it out a little bit more. We could
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: have we could have had a little bit more drama.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I just I would have seemed like to seem just
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: a little bit more, a little bit more.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I agree, because you got to understand there's so much
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: competition in in unscripted space, and obviously Netflix is doing
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: a lot of unscripted, so we're competing with the streamers.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: This is a generation of people who have add and
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: you must show them something quick like quick that that
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: gravitates towards like I must, I must, I must watch it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: And although I agree with Teddy that could have been
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: the device. You can't play with a A the first
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: original franchise.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: You can't play with that one. Baby.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. What is your current relationship with Andy and the network?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Listen, I have a wonderful relationship with Bravo, with Andy, Bravo, listen.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: I will always give Bravo the props for giving this
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: young African American man the first ever black man to
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: produce The Housewives from an executive producer level, and.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: That has changed my career.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the first, and that has changed my career.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: And I will always, always, always, always, always appreciate that
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: network for take making a chance on someone that they
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: felt was the DNA of that franchise.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: So I love that beyond thankful, beyond. Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know you've moved on since then, but
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: would you ever produce another Housewife show?
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Of course yeah you would. Oh yeah, no, I would
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: love to absolutely, one thousand percent.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: It'll be spicy.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Well we'll come to oc first.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Please, speaking of shows you produced, I have to talk
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to you a little bit about Martel.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go ye okay, we need clarification on that. We
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: need clarification.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: When you heard that Chara was dating Martel, did you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: think it was going to be a good match?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: So funny story.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not the mutual friend who set them up, Like
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: God's honest truth, I'm not that person. So I was
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: driving down the highway when I got a phone call
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: that Martel and Seve were seeing each other, and I
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: thought it was bullshit.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I said this, It doesn't even make sense.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Number One, I'm very close to Charay, and obviously Martell's
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: on my show, and he and I are closed too,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: and they never said anything.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: So I did not believe that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: I thought there's another situation where two people are being made.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: To be in a relationship.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Until two weeks later, Martel called me and he said,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: hold on, somebody wants to say hello, Lo and behold
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: it was Charae. And then I started to dig more
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: and I realized that these people who are super attractive
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: right both in reality television, they are really bonding on
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: a different level and having fun. Do I think they'll
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: get married, have babies and all that shit. No, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: think they're having great sex. I think they're having a
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: great time, and I think Charay is living her best life.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: What do you think about Kenya fieud listen.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I love Kenya. She's a personal friend of mine.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Kenya is great television, and this is my opinion, I
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: think Kenya knew how to start the party. You know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Kenya Atlanta has a lot of pressure to be great
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: because at one point in time it was the number
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: one show on the network and the number one franchise
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: of Housewives right. Ye, so there's a lot of pressure
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: for Atlanta, and I think Kenya wanted to get the
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: party started first episode out the gate. She got it
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: and she did it, and that's why Kenya is a
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: force multiplier.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Do you have you seen the dms?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, so you know what's funny again? A go Saxtor
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Carlos Martel.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: DMed her because me and Kenya went on ig live
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: because Kenya is a fan of my show Love and
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Marriage Huntspill. Yes, three years ago, Kenya and I went
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: on Instagram Live to talk about the show and she
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: said very nice things about Martel three years ago.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Did what were the very nice things that she said?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, you know, listen, he's a great father. I see
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: him trying to you know, do well to his current wife. Yes,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: he cheated, but I see that he's trying to make
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: things happen.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: And you know, I'm rooting for them as a company.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Why did he put kind and why on the DM
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that we saw did he put kind in quotes?
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Look, I don't think he, you know, read too much.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Listen, straight guys don't read too much in unless I'm wrong,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I don't think straight guys read too much into like words.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the kind words.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I literally I don't know, but but I did
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: say this at the end of the day. Is it
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: appropriate for a married because at that time he was
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: still married, okay, is it appropriate for a married man
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: to DM any woman whether or not is to say
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: thank you for the compliment.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I don't mind, DoD, I don't know. I mean, if
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: you go in deep burden, it's like, hey, I really
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: like it, show like yeahd like startup conversations, and then
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I might get a little like, hmmm, what's going on here?
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: So you and you're saying that the DM that he
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: sent to Kenya was not flirting or are.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: You saying no, Because when guys flirt via DM, they
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: use emojis, whether it's an egg plant, yeah, it's the
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: egg plants. The fire emoji is a wink. He used
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: no emojis, and he said thank you for the kind
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: words that you said when you went live with Carlos.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: But then what.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: About when Candy said, Candy said, we're only seeing a
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: portion of these dms.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Are we missing a part of the dms? Or is
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: that the full DM?
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: It's the full DM?
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Because think about it, Martel had the receipt he showed
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: the DM.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: That screenshot that they showed was Martel's.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: If you felt that Martel did something crazy, let's say
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: you did delete it. Why can't you remember what he said?
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: And we need to think about that. She ever once
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: said what he said? Thought all she said was he
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: damned me, because when you say a man damns a woman,
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: you instantly go to he's flirting.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: So you think she wiped it clean.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Listen, I think Kinga is a force multiplier and she
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: wanted to make sure Atlanta premiere did not suck.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: And guess what it worked.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: It didn't.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great season premiere.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: As we get into you know, this week's episode, speaking
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: of relationships that may be a little bit tricky, Ralph
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: starting it off and saying that he and Drew.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Are like Ike and Tina. That is not like a
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Freudian slip.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: That's a bad choice of words.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Did you know going, Because listen, we've had Ralph and
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Drew on love them.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Both got in Vegas, right, Yeah, we all had.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: A last But when he said, even as I'm watching that,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: as they're coming in and we're seeing it, I can
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: see them trying to.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Force that they're good. Mm hmm, are you seeing that too?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, Because Atlanta Housewives films and you two know this
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: for like three to four months, and they got they
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: filed for divorce a couple of weeks after they wrapped
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: principal photography. So something must have been going down prior
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: in those three to four months that you guys were filming.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: And that's the reason why a lot of people are
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: having issue with why aren't people giving us real conversations
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: about what's happening in your household? And I think because
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Rap and Drew showed us a lot of problems early
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: on in their seasons on the show. I do think
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: they purposely tried to say, let's show them that we're happy,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: so that we're not repeating the same narrative versus let's
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: show them that we're struggling with whatever situation they could
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: have been in.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I know this isn't a relationship question,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: but do you think that Courtney and Ralph are actually cousins?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Are they just as much of cousins as Candy is
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: friends with Courtney?
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: They're as much as cousins as me and Tamar are
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: related it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I need to check the bloodline, sister, because.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Show me the twenty three and me exactly I need
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to see Listen, I need those receipts like I need
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: King's receipts.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: So we need to start receipting on Atlanta Housewives.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Honey, Oh my god.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: To switch gears a little bit. The scandal scan Now
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: you have had a scandal that happened as well between
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I Have Candy and Phedro. That was a pretty big scandal.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I thought you were involved in that.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: I see, listen the problem and you and you two
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: would know this. There's the real life that happens on
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: the show, and then there's the show that happens on
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: social media.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: It's a different show.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: It's a whole different show.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: I along with the Bravo executives in Dave Quinn's New
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: York Times bestseller book Not All Diamonds and Roseye, I
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: said I had nothing to do with that Phaedra a
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Candy scandal. Bravo executives are quoted Carlos had nothing to
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: do with it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: To this day, you still get blamed.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Right listen, I get blamed if the sky turns green,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: anything that happens. And you too know this as it's because, listen,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: I am the most popular producer that that has come
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: out of producing Raal Housewife because of my on camera career, right,
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: so I get blamed for everything. I had nothing to
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: do with it. Bravo has made statements about it in
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: this very book. But it's funny because when people see
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: the truth in black and white, it doesn't go viral
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: like a lie does.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: And that's the unfortunate part. As you two know about
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: being you.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Know, yeah, known, Well, they want a scandal, they want
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: to believe in a scandal. What are your thoughts about scandal?
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Oh well, listen, okay, truth moment. I'm not a big
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: fan of VPR. I have too much going on, right,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: so I gotta select what shows on watching. But girls,
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: I did watch the finale and I didn't even know
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: backstory because I get it because I used to watch
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: the first two seasons. By far will go down in
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: history as one of the best episodes in the reality
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: TV zeitgeists history. It was, you know what, the best
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: part if you saw the troubling.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Emotion from the men.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: You don't see that often on reality television. You saw
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Tom Schwartz like his life was flashing before his eyes,
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: which is why he wore glasses because he's like, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: canceled because Tom. First of all, Tom Schwartz, you are super.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Fucking hot, but oh Tom Schwartz can get it. So look,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Tom Shwarts.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: At the end of the day, you are afraid because
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: you allowed this to take place in your home.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: And that's why, guys, when your boy cheats.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna care if it's with the girl, the bottle
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: girl at the nightclub, you have to tell your homeboy,
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I'm actually friends with your girl.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Don't do this around me.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're guilty by associations.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Not only did he let it happen in his household,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: he created another. He helped them create another storyline allegedly surrounding
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: it that she was into him, that she was into
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: him and they were gonna kiss and all like, I mean,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it's just all so.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: But now the fact that allegedly she's pregnant and he's
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: over in Texas or wherever with some other influencer check
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: that's now disabled her Instagram.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, just.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Dropped, just dropped today. I'm upset.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Get your Instagram back up and running, because I need
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: to be stalking you right now, and I can only
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: find four photos.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Patty Water to the rescue.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: And then Ariana has come out and said she won't
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: film with him, which bad talk. We talked to Andy
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: She's gonna end up filming with him, the same way.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: She's doing a Sofi commercial right now where she's pretending
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: she's moving in her house but really she's just moving up,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and it's all like, come on, they all know what
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: they're doing.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, come on, girl, you haven't been this
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: relevant since the show started, and you are now a
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: household name. You were on the view with Whoopee Goldberg,
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: you are now the face of this show.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: So guess what, honey.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: As a producer, listen to me and listen to me now,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: you need to film every scene with these people because
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: it's going to make you like a boat relevant in
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: The Hottest Chick on Bravo.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: She can't overplay her hand. If she overplays her hand,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: then it will switch, the narrative will.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Backfire on her.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, sure, but I'm.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Not even supposed to be talking about Vanda.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: We have to get back to Atlanta, which leads me
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: to money Joyce.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: You call her money Joyce.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about Mama choice.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So I loved that in this episode the amount of
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: fourth wall breaks, Like first Marlowe brings up the reunion,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: then they're talking about Bravo coonomy it's a last year,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Like no, I love I love that they're saying, Brava,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I'm so sick.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: When I saw you in New York.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to hear that. Mama
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Joyce is never respected Candy's marriage at all. She's never
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: stood up for you know, Todd. She's never She just
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: kind of Candy gets the kind of shut down when
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Mama is going after Todd.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: But do you think My question is, you know, for Carlos,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: what do you think about her mom saying these things?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And then what are your.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Thoughts of Todd as a producer, as a person, as
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: someone you actually know.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Look at that look on his.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Face, Teddy Walters, you gotta love her.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I love this want she just it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: She just wants you to say something till we get
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: the good.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: This is why to Teas in a Pot is literally
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: my most download a podcast beside my own.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: So I'll start with the Mama Joyce question and then
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: I'll get into Todd because Teddy Walters is doing a
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty Fine Time Live interview exclusive at ten o'clock
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: pm AC.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I seriously think she has a career.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I love it so much. I love it so much.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: You need to get on the view. Okay, so she does.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I don't mean that one to cheat on me to
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: get on it, though, Like, let's find another way.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Oh good, No, Mama Joyce will never like Todd w
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: when And you two know this being mothers now granted, Teddy,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: your children are younger, obviously, tam are your children you have,
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: some are grown and you tell me if I'm wrong.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: I strongly believe when a mother makes up her mind
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: on the person her child is dating, and she's did
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: set on that opinion, nothing's going to change it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Nothing's going to change it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: But don't you think after so many years I don't
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: know how many years have been together, but they have
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: two kids together, don't you think that she'd come around
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: a little bit more?
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Not when you are an older woman like Mama Joy's.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Mama Joyce isn't in her forties or fifties with a
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: grown kid. You know, Mama Joyce is much older. She
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: looks good, she's sexy, she's she's you know, she has
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of personality. I know Mama Joyce personally, and
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: when her mind is made up, her mind is made up.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: But think about it, it's not just with Todd, is
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: with Candy's friends too. When she is dead set on
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: this is who I think you are, nothing's going to
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: change it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Well, so my question then, is do you think that
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the relationship between Candy and Todd. Do you think it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: true love or do you think he's just out for
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: clout money.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: No, I think it's true love because at the end
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: of the day, you can't you can't.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: You can't hide the fact.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: That when they're around each other, they're both gazing.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: In each other's eyes. You can't.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: You can't hide that they love each other because think
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: about it, they have ambition, and they are a power
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: couple and they thrive off of that, and they they
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: love talking about business and building this empire. So no,
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: I one thousand percent believe that they are one hundred
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: percent in love with each other.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of talk in the show that
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Candy doesn't really give a lot to the show.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: See that's interesting because okay, so I remember producing season six.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: This was my first time as an executive producer. Me
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: and Candy had a conversation and the only thing I
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: can say to you all is Candy is invested in
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: making sure she has staying power on that show. Season
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: six is the highest rated season of Atlanta Housewives. One
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: of the reasons because Candy brought so much to that
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: season with Mama Joyce and Todd and her best friend Carmen,
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: and Mama Joyce taking off the shoe at the Bridle
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: shop to hit Carmen over the head with she had
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: a wedding special.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know too many.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Housewives who would have a conversation about a prenup on camera.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: She did that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Candy has given so much to that show that I
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: just sub with the notion that she hides stuff because
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: that's not what I see or what I know to
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: be true. I think people are saying that because of
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: the legal situation going on at her restaurants. And I
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: defended her by saying, and you two know, there's being
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: business owners. When something happens in business, your lawyers tell
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: you do not say anything because they can subpoena the
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: tapes and whatever you say can be used against you in.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: The court of law. So I disregard that note.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: But then they did talk about it in the confessional,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: which is what I was confused about, because when they
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: were in scene and Todd and Candy were talking and.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Was it her cousin.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Her cousin was there, and you know, they're starting in production,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: walks in and they're breaking the fourth wall and they're saying, like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: we need to talk about the elephant in the room
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: here and so on and so forth. They don't really
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: talk about it. You see Todd go, you know, it's legal,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But then they panned a Candy's confessional
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: where she explains what happened.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I suspect she those are words from her attorney.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Say that's what I was going to say.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: So what happened, just so the listeners can know in
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: real time when she and Todd were caught off guard
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: with the producer, Hey, Eric, the producer saying, let's address
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: the elephant in the room in real time, they did
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: not know what to say. So what happened was we
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: tape confessionals two weeks three weeks after a scene as
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: taped so they had time to really go over the
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: verbiage with their attorney, and that's why she said her
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: confessional and not in the bear tee.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so then.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll back up a little bit and then
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: we'll get back into that a little bit more. But
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: we they they show Candace calling Drew asking her to
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: come perform, and at this time Courtney's over. They're having
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: all these conversations, and then Candy and Drew her on
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the phone, and Drew's kind of acting like she doesn't
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: one the magnitude of the Courtney issue.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: But then they go to support her mm hmm.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And for forty three seconds, for forty three seconds of
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: her singing.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: And do you think possibly she's sang more and it's
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: just an editing thing?
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, anything is possible, right when it comes
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: to the shady editors at Bravo. But I will say,
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: because it was such a big story, they know that
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: Drew would have went on Twitter and say, guys, that's
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: effed up.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: So no, I think she's sang for forty three seconds
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, what about how old? I loved all forty
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: three seconds and I love seeing can just do the crossover.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: And even her husband was there, Chris.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I love a crossover.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Agree that has never been so happy not to have
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: other women coming after his marriage.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: At that moment, he said, Yeah, I'll give you flowers
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: with babies, bread and do all the things. Yeah.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Also, PSA to all gentlemen, not that any of them
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: listen to this podcast.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: No women want flowers that have baby's breath in them.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: So if you're gonna slip up to the Ralphs or
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: wherever you're going to buy the flowers, pull all the
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: baby's breath out, because once we see that, it is
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: a red flag that you.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Got it from a grocery store.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Fifty five.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: I'm from the era of baby's breath. I love it.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Bring babies, give me a carnation too.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, now.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: That actually I don't really like flowers. Oh I'm not
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: a big flower person.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Yea, I get well.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I do think that Drew's performance lasted longer than the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: work that Marlow's life coach has done on her.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: After that, you.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Shady, shady, Teddy shady.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: But can you explain I'm a little bit lost on
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: what happened at the end here I.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Can tell you exactly what happened.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: That was very confusing.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Confused.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Okay, some of the housewives feel like Candy's businesses are protected,
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: that she's not allowed to have people question anything relating
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: to her business.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: That's that's what they think. I'm not saying I think
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: that way.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: They think that way, So think about it, ladies.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: When Drew brought up the.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: Incident, she said that I work and not the S
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: because the S is silent, right, So she said incident.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: And you can tell that Drew is very nervous to
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: ask Candy the question.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: When that happens.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: Nine times out of ten, she is being prepped to
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: bring it up because you know when things happen on
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: the blogs, rightfully, so you need to talk about it
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: on this show.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: That's paying you, right for sure.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: I believe that none of the women had enough balls
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: to do it, So shout out to Drew for doing it.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Drew is a teddy of Atlanta.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Drew is like Drew's like, fuck it, I'll do it,
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: like I want to go home, like fuck this now,
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: because you're going to keep us here for two more
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: hours and I actually want to go home and seeing
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: for sixty seconds a post.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I'm awkwardly gonna say incident, which is going to piss
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: people off.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: Yes, like Drew did, right so, because Drew nervously asked
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: the question and Marlowe is sitting there, like, say it,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: say the S word, say it. When Drew did not
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: say the S word, marlow got mad because in her mind,
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: Marlowe allegedly felt that once again, we're protecting her business,
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: and that's why.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: She was upset.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Candy said, once again it is a legal matter. I
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: can't talk about it, and they said, all right, scene,
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: it's done, let's go home. And that's why you saw
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: a flash to a black card that said ten minutes
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: after we wrapped. That indicates that the moment Drew asked
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: the question, Candy answered, they were like, nothing to see here.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: So as they're wrapping gear, they're pulling down the lights,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: they discovered Drew and Marlowe having an off camera conversation,
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: which is why I said. The producer had his iPhone
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: and was filming it because he saw it was getting heated.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: And what Marlowe was upset with is the fact that
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: number one, she feels like they protect her businesses and
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: number two, she did say this yesterday, so breaking News.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: Marlowe said out of her own mouth because she went
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: on Instagram live.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: That's what they do.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: She said that she felt that because her nephew worked
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: at one of Candy's restaurants when he passed away. And
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: let's be clear, her nephew did not pass away at
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: any Yes, let's be let's let's make that very clear.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: Marlow's nephew did not pass away at any of Candy's establishment.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: Marlow is saying that when her nephew died, she expected
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Candy to do more because he worked at the restaurant before.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, now what do we think about that?
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Well, my first question is, yes, I get that they
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: broke down, But my question is why would Marlow be
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: upset with Drew and Drew Drew's the only one that
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: had because she bring it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Up say the S word.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: It's because she did not say the S word, and
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: she felt like Drew copped out.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: She could have brought it up herself.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: So speaking of copping out any like any one of
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: those other women could have also brought it out.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Drew so confused, like if you're going to be.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Annoyed at somebody, be annoyed at Candy and say hey, Candy,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: you know, like we all talk about our stuff. And
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: then because at that moment, you could tell that it
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: bothered Candy because Candy went back to something that Marlow
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: did twenty three years ago, allegedly, And so that's what
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I That's where I was lost.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, why are you so mad at Drew?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: She at least did something the other great, didn't I say?
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: She was just taking out her anger on Drew.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was necess That's exactly what it was.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: It was just she was fed up. She thought there
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: was no cameras on her probably. Yeah, she lost her shit,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: ye shed Yeah, And it's a personal thing, like her
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: nephew was shot. She felt like Candy should have stopped up.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Didn't they show a text or something that Candy yes, texting?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's one of those things where it's two things.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: You can't tell someone how to grieve, but you also
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: can't tell someone how they should respond to an unfortunate situation,
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: be a text, because that can be misread into something.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: So that's why I agree with all of you in
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: terms of it's very confusing because one is mad because
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: they felt like this person did not do more, and
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: the other one is saying, what did you want me
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: to do? Instead of picking up the phone and talking
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not even talking about that, which is
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: my point.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: They're talking about a completely different situation that they're upset about,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: which is fine if we're going to do.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: This, this is what we're doing. Where Marlow gets upset.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Because Candy isn't addressing the shooting and or I think it's.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it was all just misdirected it like.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent it was.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: It wasn't like Tammer said, Marlow did not know they
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: were filming her in juice conversation and she had that
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: blow up. And I know Marlow personally, Marlowe is breaking news.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Marlowe is the most sensitive housewife I have ever worked
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: with in my life.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Really, Marlowe.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Marlow is extremely sensitive. Marlow cries behind the scenes a lot.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Marlow doesn't like rejection. Marlow doesn't And Marlow has expressed
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: this on my podcast. She she said, Carlo, if you
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: know me, I'm I'm sensitive as shit.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like you are by far, but.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Don't people she really tough. Exteriors are the ones that
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: are most sensitive inside. Yeah, I grew up like that.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: I was super sensitive inside, but I always had this tough,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: you know mentality.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: And we can't negate the fact that she comes from
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: the foster system.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: So that's why she hates rejection. She hates rejection from
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: from the girls.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: One thing Marlowe has said that a lot of people
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: don't know Marlow still feels like the other women don't
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: respect her as a peach older.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: How why did you think I could see that? But
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: how why did it take so long for her to
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: get a peach.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Number one?
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Marlow turned down a peach when it was offered to her.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: What season season four?
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, why did you turn it down?
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: At the time, she felt that and YouTube adult this.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: At the time, she felt that the money they were
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: paying her with the exclusivity in agreement did not work
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: for her as the.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: First season peachholder.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: As a first season peach holder, right, so you guys
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: can get that. And it wasn't on her Bengo card
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: anymore until I would say around season seven is when
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: she was like, hmmm, I want this now.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: And at that time, you know, people just.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: Weren't interested in figuring out what other personalities could join
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: the show.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of other personalities to join the show, do
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: you think Cynthia should come back?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, what are your thoughts on Courtney?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, let's be clear, it's a tryhard. It's picked me vibes.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: She needs to calm her tits down just a little bit.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: She's given noel Le vibes from OC.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, that's what exactly.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: The famous baby dad Like, I was like, no, you're
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: not are you together?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Oh you're not together. You're just such great co parents.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't believe it. I was like, are you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: here just so he can give you a little bit.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Of like valid Yeah, that's what I didn't.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: But now she's a cousin.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: That's why it's where it listen.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: It's super But I want to address this because I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: said this on my podcast. It's hard for a housewife
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: in this day and age with Twitter controlling the hiring process.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Right, let's let let's be honest here.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: So you agree with that because I feel like we
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: had that conversation.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: With Andy said Twitter does not He said they have
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: focus groups and everybody else that handles.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: It influenced by Twitter.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: I think a lot in my Tamra Judge Boys my opinion,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: I think a lot has to do with Twitter's response.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: I think that's why you need to see Tamra, Lisa Rena,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: who else there's another example.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but those fools change their minds as soon
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: as you're fired.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: Well that's the thing, because you listen to Twitter and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: not really who makes the show great and.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: It's people the same super fan.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you need that, and you need that.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: So my question to you too is this, it's hard
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: to come in as a new housewife because if you're
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: not flipping a table, you're boring, or if you flip
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: a table, you're thirsty.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: It's but I don't think that she's boring. It's not
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: that I think that Sonia is boring. I think that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: it I haven't seen and maybe it's just because of
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: the things that we've been shown, but everything to me
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: feels like an infomercial at this point in time. Yes,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: it's like we were hearing about the business. We're hearing
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: about this, we're hearing about that. I want to see
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: her one having fun to like just show a relationship
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: with another woman, like, oh, just smile a little bit,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: like just everything.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this isn't the Olympic Games.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: We are here, she's got a hot husband. She should
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: be smiling all the time.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: You should be smiling.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I should fun be a little messy, like a little
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: bit like don't try.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: She's you know, she's an Olympian, right, so she's a
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: very disciplined person, very disciplined. So I could see she's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: always in her head making sure.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: And I agree that I am that same way, but
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, you used to be the same way.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: And and I heard that you came on Beverley Hills
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: and shook the table and started some ship and because
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: of you, stuff is happening on Billy Hills. Because I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: heard prior to you coming on. It wasn't snooze.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Anyways, Teddy. And then she dropped her mic and never
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: went back.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, because she said a friend contract. I'm not Marla Hampton.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: I want to hold a diamond, and I'm not Camille
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: Grammar or Denise Richards. I'm not going to show up
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: for call time because you told me so. I'm not
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: Brandy Glanvale nor Kim Richards.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to show.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Up nobody side Teddy.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: She said, I want to.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Tell everybody's messaging me. They're like, did you get in
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: a fight with Kyle? Why weren't you at the White party?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: And so yesterday when Kyle and I were hiking, I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: just posted our little like we always do, our workout video,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: and everyone's like, we thought you were you and Kyle.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Were in a fight.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, guys, I'm just not going to do
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: it in that circumstance.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. I can miss a.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: Party, Okay, Teddy Walters, this is Carlos Winfrey. On a
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: scale of one to ten, how explosive was your presence
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: on this upcoming season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I am not at a position where I'm allowed to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: discuss such things.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: She She didn't even tell me.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I'll like, okay, somebody's face was disgusted at my actual sight.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything. I'm not no, that's it. That's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: all I can tell you.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: But the only is Garsella. I'm sorry, is Garcela.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: The only reason I attended this was because it was
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: very imbrobed with Utton.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not telling you guys anything.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: Either, garcel And my guess is Garsel Tamar's guess is such.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: But I will say this, and if you guys are listening,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: because I know they are, please bring Teddy back. Because
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: Kyle Richards, as the world knows, I love you, Tamor,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: Kyle Richards is my current favorite housewife. I am obsessed
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: with Kyle because I think Kyle does everything right right
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: and one thing Kyle is missing is a true friend.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: And what I love about Kyle's friendship with Teddy is
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: it's rooted in reality. And I feel like Kyle, who's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: the force multiplier that show. She has to and please
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: forgive when I say this, she I hate saying this,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: but whatever say it, she has to make it seem
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: like her and Derry are like besties. And I think
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: if you subtract the husband's hern, Derry would not be
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: as close.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to disagree with you because I don't
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: know if you know this, but Teddy Walters is thinking
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: about moving to Orange County.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: So this is my question for you, Carlos, if you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: could pick, would you rather see me back on Beverly
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Hills or holding myself an orange?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Or they'd probably give me a clement time. They're like,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: you don't even get an orange?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a cutie cutie. No, I mean she was a
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: little scruffy like the Orange County.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: So but this, okay, and this is my honest opinion,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: because you have Tamra.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Who works the job of for women on that show,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: and honey, you do.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: And I believe that Taylor Armstrong I haven't seen anything.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: I believe Taylor has what it takes to be a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: good plus one to tam or Judge.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: So because of that one thing about the Real Housewives
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: of Belly Hills, without Lisa Rena, you have nobody who
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: wants to get the party started. Erica Jane isn't doing it,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: Sutton is not gonna do it, neither Garsell Crystal ain't
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: gonna do anything.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: So Teddy is the one. Because this is what people
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: don't know about.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: Teddy and and tamer tell me if you agree with
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: disagree with this. People don't know that in real life
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Teddy is supermodel gorgeous. She may not wear like She's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: not like Drey who gets the you know, the clothes
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: and the whatever.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: Carlos, I'm sick of seeing that.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: I hate it. I'm I'm bored with it.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I know that her stuff's real, but
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: We've had conversations with Andy about the fake you know,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: because they feel like they have to wear that.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: To look before done. It's dying.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see it. You don't see people
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: like that walking around all day long with you.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Had to talk to the rich ones.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: You don't like my money in the bank, bitch.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Me too, and with interest growing so because but this
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: is what, this is what the Real Housewives of Beverly
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: Hills fans do not know. Teddy is supermodeled, gorgeous and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: rich and rich, but Teddy doesn't.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: She's not showy.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: So when the women are in front of Teddy, the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: reason why they hate Teddy, especially Denise Richards, is because Teddy,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: it's like, this bitch is gorgeous, she asked all the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: good questions.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: I hate her and they're in and now I.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Love Carlos and we actually are getting married tomorrow and
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: he's officially But.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: I will say I knowing Teddy for as long as
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: I've known her, I didn't.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I wasn't close to her when.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: She was on the show, but when I watched old seasons,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: like she's so reserved and so in her head and
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: didn't allow herself to drink enough to be messy and
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: all those things. But I think going back, she's also
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: said the same thing. Watching herself, she would be a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: totally different house.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I would be myself, I do realize, and you as
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: a producer.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I realized that there were parts in time where I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: just sat there where I wish I didn't like I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: would I would step up when I needed to, but
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't the way I like the way I'm in
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: the pod, like I never shut up.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: In reality in real life, like I have to force myself.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: When Tam was talking, Roy finished.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: You and you know how to dick, and I think, listen.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: I think the problem is people look at the shows
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: and form an opinion based on who are the fan favorites,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: which is why the Kiss of Death is calling herself
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: to start the show or.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: The fan favorite. Once you do that, you're done.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: And the reason why I need to see you on
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: Beverly Hills is because, for the love of God, Kyle
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: needs a real friend. And it bothers me to watch
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: the show knowing that she does not have anybody who
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: is truly in her corner. And it's sad to watch
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: because she gives. Kyle gives so much to that show
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: and she tries to rally the troops and make sure
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  Speaker 5: all the girls are like doing their jobs, and it's like,
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  Speaker 5: can the bitch have a break, And you're the break
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  Speaker 5: style needs.
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  Speaker 1: And we said this with Andy when no one got
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  Speaker 1: up and gave her a hug at that end of
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: the reunion last year.
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  Speaker 2: Except for Andy. Yeah, like this is.
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  Speaker 3: But you know why, right, because they were so happy.
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  Speaker 5: She was on her Well, they were like, don't touch
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: her because we don't want Twitter to be mad at us.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you that's how it works.
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  Speaker 5: I promise you they're like, do not hug her because
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: Twitter will say why they're hugging Kyo not Kathy. I'm
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  Speaker 5: telling you a lot of these women on Belly Hills
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  Speaker 5: and I'm not gonna call them out just yet. A
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: lot of the Belly Hills women play up to Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think a lot of people at all much in general,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to get annihilated this year. I already know it.
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  Speaker 3: And you're okay with that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: We love you for that, Tam.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care Twitter say what you want.
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a I'm not going to annihilate you, Tam.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: But I don't care, and me tell you you're only
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: as good as last week's episode.
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  Speaker 4: I will watch myself and go, oh, I'm a dick,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: Like I get it, but it's who I am.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: This is a producer's dream. I love it.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Mind is not well.
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  Speaker 1: We do have a couple of thoughts as we have
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: to close out. Even though we can talk to Carlos
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: forever forever, he's not gonna be on tomorrow's episode where
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: we talk about Teresa's wedding, because I feel like we
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: get a lot of extra juice there.
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  Speaker 2: But my favorite fan thought so far was Courtney needs
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: to take some venus CBD.
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  Speaker 3: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I do like that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, people said that they miss they miss Array. Now.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: I love Charay.
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  Speaker 3: We text love her.
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  Speaker 4: I saw her hung out with her in La, we
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: did family food together. I'm obsessed with her.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: We love we love her, we love Marlowe.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Hurry Kenya are my real friends? I love Charay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, love her to death.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Are Charay and Martel still together?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: But are they exclusive? See?
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: From what I know, they're not exclusive in terms of
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: you're my boyfriend, you're my girlfriend.
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  Speaker 3: They're both over forty.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Martel just got out of a divorce, Charay just got
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: out of relationship right with Tyrone. They're having fun there,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: and I think people need to unders dan, they're over forty.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: Dating over forty is very different. It's not like we
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: go together, we're exclusive. They both live in different states
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: and they're figuring things out.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: They're having each other's so take some time exactly. Okay,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: So you think their relationship is much more legit than
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: let's say, Giselle.
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  Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, okay, because I've seen it with my own
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: eyes without cameras.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: That's when you know something's real without cameras. I've seen it.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well we know that you also saw Kim and krout,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: so so we don't know.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: We just saying just saying we love you.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Carlos. What do you like tell our viewers what they
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: need to be watching, what they need to be doing,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: how they find you all the things?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, So my podcast Reality with the King
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: drops every Tuesday whereever you get your podcasts, and you
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: can see Martel on Love and Marriage Huntsville that airs
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: every Saturday, eight o'clock suven Central on Oprah Winfrey Network,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: and you can follow me all platforms TikTok, Twitter, Instagram
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: at b Carlos King Underscore, along with my YouTube page
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: where you see the.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: Visuals of the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I love you.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: God is good. Thank you, I love you Blonde, thank
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: you so much too.
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  Speaker 1: Bye, thank you bye,