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- 0:00I think you guys got some pent up, well, things to say, some
- 0:04pent up things to say because we've had an extra day off and
- 0:07anytime we've got an extra day off, it's good to get back in
- 0:10the swing of things. So let's do that and talk to
- 0:12Greg from Sabattus. Kick off the calls here this
- 0:15morning. Greg, how are you?
- 0:17Oh, very good Matt. I just thought I would this
- 0:20morning light the fuse to send you into orbit.
- 0:24Now, given, given the current climate, politically and
- 0:29judicially, I think that if Elliott Cutler had won his
- 0:33election, he'd still be in office.
- 0:35Yeah. You're going to.
- 0:37Let's talk about. Bring him up again, yeah.
- 0:40$10,000 he spent more than that on child porn.
- 0:45You know the. Man needs to be removed from
- 0:47society. Period.
- 0:49The end. Yeah, well, we're getting to the
- 0:51point where I, I have no words, Greg, at this because, you know,
- 0:56you may recall my coverage of him 'cause I know you probably
- 0:58do. I'd think like on the third, the
- 1:01third time he was, he was up for violating his parole.
- 1:06And the judge in the case quite literally said, and I'm
- 1:09paraphrasing it, but it's absolutely accurate to what the
- 1:12judge said, basically said this is it, buddy.
- 1:14Like there's no more chances you won't get bail again.
- 1:18Two more times he's got bail. Now he's on five.
- 1:22Two more times he's got bail. So all talk, I mean, is, does
- 1:27none of this stuff mean anything?
- 1:28And can anyone explain, Greg? Yeah, you did send me in to her,
- 1:31But thank you. Can anybody explain to me why no
- 1:34one talks about this? Where where are lawmakers?
- 1:39Where are where's the media? The media does their dutiful job
- 1:45to, you know, create. You know, there's a story about
- 1:50about Elliott Cutler getting bail again, right?
- 1:51I'm looking at one right now. WMTW.
- 1:53Good job, guys. You've done it.
- 1:55Former Maine gubernatorial candidate Elliott Cutler
- 1:57released on $10,000 bail. That's all you get, though.
- 2:01That's what you get. You get a story about the fact
- 2:05that, well, you violated this burl again.
- 2:06And I guess you know the $10,000 bail then.
- 2:09All right, I got, I got something I get mosquitoes to
- 2:13report on or something. You know, I actually, you know
- 2:16what I should do? I should probably look up what's
- 2:18on the front page of the bag or Daily News this morning.
- 2:21All right, we got the Sears Mafia.
- 2:22That's a good story. You know, that's definitely
- 2:24something worth covering. Bobby Charles is a Maine
- 2:27Republican frontrunner and a pariah.
- 2:29The raw political battle for control in Maine's Milltown.
- 2:32A Maine Milltown? Oh, Maine's coast might have
- 2:36more than 1000 shipwrecks. That's exciting.
- 2:39Yeah. How Donald Trump's policies are
- 2:42slowing a Maine Mills revival. Maine man allegedly ran away
- 2:48from head on crash that injured 3.
- 2:49It's a general Crime Story fine. You get my point though.
- 2:53I mean, at what point is there a escalation of outrage over this
- 3:01guy? And I just don't understand why
- 3:02I don't see it. I don't see it on social media.
- 3:05I don't see it in the media. I don't hear lawmakers taking
- 3:07talking about it. I don't see or hear anything
- 3:10about this, this man who is one of the most prominent political
- 3:15figures in the state, even as old as he is and now is passe
- 3:19and and you know, over as he is still a name that was central
- 3:25part of Maine politics during the 20 tens and has violated his
- 3:31probation five times for a originally horrific crime to
- 3:35which he got absolutely no time in jail for.
- 3:39And nobody's outraged. Nobody's outraged.
- 3:42Thanks, Greg. You did it.
- 3:43You got me going. You got me going.
- 3:45Isn't that fun? How?
- 3:46How awesome. Let me go to Al from Portland.
- 3:49Al, how are you? Good morning.
- 3:52Good morning, Matt. I'm outraged.
- 3:55This is just ridiculous. And you know what?
- 3:58I think the answer is to it is if the feds would charge him
- 4:05federally and then I think the catch and release would end now.
- 4:10You know, on park crimes, sometimes the feds charge you,
- 4:15sometimes the state charges you. The feds, they wouldn't be doing
- 4:20this. So that's that.
- 4:23We got to get the feds in on this and get him locked up.
- 4:27Well, I mean, get him locked up is really the thing that should
- 4:30be the goal of everybody. So that's one of the reasons I'm
- 4:32literally casting aspersions to everyone.
- 4:35You know, lawmakers should be changing the law that originally
- 4:37allowed him to get such a light sentence for that kind of a
- 4:40crime. That should be the first thing
- 4:42that happens. Then after that, there should be
- 4:44attempts by law enforcement to prosecute, you know, this crime
- 4:48in a different women. You'd say bring up the feds
- 4:50right to go after him for charges that would be more
- 4:54substantial if possible. Or do anything they possibly can
- 4:57or I don't know, maybe don't give him bail.
- 4:59Just a thought. Maybe don't give him bail, yeah.
- 5:01I agree totally. Now the reason I was originally
- 5:06going to call was course Shannon Bellows.
- 5:09She's I put it that we're not going to be able to vote on this
- 5:13transgender thing. She's not going to let that go
- 5:16to the people. She's a string pulling witch and
- 5:21God she needs to go. Boy I hope she isn't governor.
- 5:25Good Lord Almighty. Tell me what you really think,
- 5:27Al. Tell me what you really think.
- 5:30Have a good day man. Thank you for taking my call.
- 5:32Peace Pot Microdock. Thank you, Al.
- 5:34Yeah, No, I think you're 100% right about that.
- 5:36I'm not sure. Did it, did I cover that on
- 5:38Friday? I don't remember when that when
- 5:40that really dropped, if it was the day before or if it was
- 5:45Friday afternoon or something like that.
- 5:46Obviously it was, I think, I think I did get a chance to talk
- 5:49about it on the air a little bit, but she, you know, is
- 5:51clearly going to be bouncing that out it looks like.
- 5:54So we'll see. All right, let me do Brian from
- 5:57Gorham. Brian, what's going on?
- 5:59Good morning. I'm calling about the polling we
- 6:03discussed last week. We had some poll results from
- 6:06827 people. That is correct.
- 6:10And I'm just wondering how many people they had to contact
- 6:13before they got 827 responses. And I'm going to guess it's at
- 6:18least twice as many. Maybe it's much.
- 6:20More than that, it's much. More than that.
- 6:23And I I'm one of those people that doesn't respond to the
- 6:26polls. I don't take them when they
- 6:28call. And I'm thinking this cohort of
- 6:31people that could be thousands are the people who don't express
- 6:37an opinion and therefore the 827 is really meaningless.
- 6:43Yeah, actually see if you're interested in the little inside
- 6:45baseball, Brian, I can't tell you what the actual number is,
- 6:48but I can tell you that in the last say 15 to 20 years, the
- 6:52response rates of of poles has fallen from I think somewhere in
- 6:56the neighborhood of like 10% to like 1%.
- 6:59So not only would it be double, it would be 10 times or more the
- 7:04number of contacts that they had to get to get to that number.
- 7:06I mean, they, they clearly called thousands and thousands
- 7:10of people to get to the point where they can actually get 800
- 7:13respondents. Therefore, we shouldn't even
- 7:16report these. Polls well, yeah.
- 7:19We shouldn't even talk about them.
- 7:21Polls are very. Thank you, Brian.
- 7:23Appreciate it. Polls are very complicated, and
- 7:25I think as you're alluding to, the construction of them matters
- 7:28a great deal. And if they're not constructed
- 7:30properly, the response rate thing is not necessarily a
- 7:33reason to doubt the poll because they've always, I mean, going
- 7:36back to the 60s or 70s, you know, when they were much more
- 7:40reliable, you know, you always had more people not answering it
- 7:43than answering it, a lot more people not answering it than
- 7:46answering it. The question was whether or not
- 7:48the sample that you got was representative of the overall
- 7:51population you were trying to get an opinion about.
- 7:54You know, if you're polling America, right, you need to get
- 7:57a sample that is somewhat reflective of America and who it
- 8:01is and what they think. And if you over sample in One
- 8:04Direction or under sample over here or it's somehow not done
- 8:08correctly, then you are in trouble.
- 8:10And what pollsters typically do is they try to construct a poll
- 8:14based on demographics, geography, age, etcetera, with a
- 8:19universe of people that they will call.
- 8:21And if they are noticing that the responses that they're
- 8:24getting from a certain particular demographic area are
- 8:27light or heavy, they will adjust the additional calls they make
- 8:32to try to, you know, sort of ease that out a little bit.
- 8:35Like if there's not enough young people answering this poll, the
- 8:38next, you know, 200 calls are going to be people under the age
- 8:41of 35 or something like that to try to get responses from that
- 8:45group, you know, within the other categories as well, to
- 8:48construct in the end, a sample that that is representative.
- 8:52But in today's where the biggest problem in today's world is that
- 8:55I'm not sure it's possible to really get a representative
- 8:58sample anymore because the manner in which you're
- 9:03attempting to contact people has been so sort of undermined.
- 9:08You know, it's like nobody who I know who's on the right wing of
- 9:11American politics will answer a poll anymore.
- 9:13So whether that's right or wrong or fair or unfair, it's just
- 9:17true. And if it's true, then you're
- 9:18not really getting a pretty important subset of people to
- 9:22answer your poll. And the ones that you do get who
- 9:24identify like that aren't the aren't representative of the
- 9:27ones that aren't doing it. Like if you get some sort of a
- 9:30say, white collar suburban professional, you know, kind of
- 9:36old school Republican that actually does answer your poll.
- 9:38Is that really representative of, say, a Trump voter?
- 9:41Not really, even though they both do.
- 9:43I identify as Republicans. So there's a lot of corruptions
- 9:47and problems in this that I think I mean, in that poll, by
- 9:49the way, that you're talking about, it was just bad.
- 9:51I mean, top to bottom, it was not something that I would
- 9:53consider to be reliable, particularly once you got into
- 9:55the party questions, you know, the, the Republican and
- 9:59Democratic primary for governor, for instance, the sample size
- 10:02actually dropped down to just like 300 for those because they
- 10:06were subsections of the overall total.
- 10:08And that's not enough for me to take it seriously.
- 10:11So just a little polling conversation here quickly.